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00:00:00.500 Great podcast today. There is so much on the plate today. We went to San Francisco and China.

00:00:09.740 We went into Nikki Haley and we had Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy on with us today.

00:00:17.680 So they both got into that statement from Nikki Haley, who we have invited on the program so she can defend herself.

00:00:24.880 But both of them had the same reaction. That is China stuff. 0.98

00:00:29.040 China. And can anyone break the back of the Trump campaign?

00:00:37.160 He seems to get stronger and stronger and stronger.

00:00:40.540 Is he the candidate? And is there anything any other candidate could do to change that?

00:00:47.700 We talk about that and so much more. Here's today's podcast.

00:00:50.100 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:01.120 OK, let's go back to our premise here. And this is a very hopeful, hopeful premise.

00:01:10.560 Remember. As a.

00:01:13.020 An action adventure fiction writer. If you had to figure out what the heck was going on in the world and you didn't know that it was just, you know, progressives, 20 early 20th century progressives that, again, for some strange reason, hate the Jews and love eugenics.

00:01:30.360 You might say, well, wait a minute. What have we learned in the last few years?

00:01:37.340 We have learned that we cannot take on China with Taiwan. 0.94

00:01:42.220 We can't do that in peacetime. OK, there's no way to do it.

00:01:46.340 We are not prepared to do that. It's too far away from all of our bases, et cetera, et cetera.

00:01:51.940 We've also found the endless wars are draining. OK, and we certainly could not take on three fronts because, you know, the Middle East will be on fire.

00:02:04.260 You know that Russia would get involved and China we would be fighting. 0.56

00:02:09.400 So we can't do three fronts. So if you are really, really sharp and you love America and you believed what everybody was saying.

00:02:20.240 And you knew we couldn't let Taiwan go because we won't be able to make the supercomputer chips because Taiwan has the clean rooms and the highest quality to make all of the supercomputer chips.

00:02:38.220 We don't make them. Taiwan does. We can't lose Taiwan. OK, so what do you do? 0.99

00:02:44.560 You look at the you look at everything and you say, OK, China's economy is failing.

00:02:50.820 They're close. But they've just upped their spending with the Navy, et cetera, et cetera.

00:02:58.700 And everybody knows this is going to happen. So you think, OK, how can we do this?

00:03:04.100 Hear me out on this. You pick Iran. 1.00

00:03:10.680 Because Iran can get involved. They want to defeat America. 1.00

00:03:16.080 They continue to sell oil to China. China imports about 70 percent of its energy supplies.

00:03:21.640 Much of that is from Iran via sanctioned and illegal oil sales.

00:03:25.080 Plus, China might promise to help Iran finish their nuclear bomb, right? 0.88

00:03:31.860 Then you have Russia, the other ally that we would worry about.

00:03:36.140 There's a chance they want to weaken America.

00:03:38.480 In fact, a very good chance and level the playing field.

00:03:41.840 They need to level the playing field, especially against our aircraft carriers, and they need to also keep selling oil to Europe and to China.

00:03:58.020 That's just the China is about half their GDP.

00:04:01.900 Now, if you war game this, when the U.S. goes to war with China, we lose.

00:04:06.820 But we also have to fight Russia in Europe and Iran in the Middle East. 0.85

00:04:10.560 Those are three theaters of war. We can't handle that.

00:04:14.180 But what?

00:04:15.980 What if Iran and Russia could not come in on China's side in three years down the road?

00:04:26.840 Everybody looks at you and you're sitting there in the briefing room and you say, hear me out.

00:04:31.580 What if Russia and Iran had already been taken out? 0.97

00:04:34.940 What if they'd already been neutralized before we had to fight China? 0.82

00:04:40.560 Everybody looks at you like you have lobsters growing out of your ears.

00:04:44.020 We don't have any political support here in the U.S. for wars with Russia and Iran, especially in this election cycle.

00:04:51.220 No way Congress would approve this.

00:04:52.920 The administration won't approve that.

00:04:54.400 The American people wouldn't support it.

00:04:56.400 You say proxies.

00:04:58.400 We don't have to fight Russia and Iran.

00:05:01.500 We get proxies to take them out for us.

00:05:04.720 All they need is a little push and a ton of weapons, just the right motivation, and they'll take them out for us.

00:05:11.620 The room gets silent and you're sitting there and you say, so who's dumb enough to fight two land wars in Asia?

00:05:20.280 You smile and say, well, NATO.

00:05:25.820 NATO can take out Russia. 0.76

00:05:28.280 Israel can take out Iran. 0.97

00:05:31.580 You have to do it just right.

00:05:33.960 NATO and Israel could never know we're using them like that. 0.83

00:05:37.360 We can't just go out there and bribe them.

00:05:39.600 They have to be so motivated that they'd risk their own survival and beep up their own military budgets to take Putin and the Ayatollahs out for us. 0.97

00:05:47.920 We supply the weapons.

00:05:50.320 They do the fighting.

00:05:53.200 Everybody's in on the great game all of a sudden.

00:05:56.040 The trick is we have to get Russia to invade. 0.87

00:06:00.560 How do we do that?

00:06:02.240 Why don't we just say Ukraine is going to be part of NATO?

00:06:05.680 That's been a red line forever.

00:06:07.920 Everybody knows that.

00:06:09.320 They'll feel threatened.

00:06:10.840 Putin invades Ukraine.

00:06:12.580 NATO will come to the rescue with guns and money.

00:06:14.740 Ukraine does the dirty work, but we make sure they have enough to win. 0.99

00:06:19.560 Yeah, but Israel. 0.61

00:06:21.180 Well, Israel's going to need to be attacked and much worse than ever before. 0.93

00:06:25.900 Why don't we just release all of the funds to Iran so they have all of the money to plan an attack on Israel? 0.97

00:06:36.300 That is so large and so heinous that they'll be forced to use their own military to take them out, which will then force Iran to join in, and then Israel takes them out. 0.83

00:06:47.000 We just need the weapons, guys, because we need the weapons in three years when we're going after when we're going after China and all of our weapons are outdated and old.

00:07:02.100 We need a whole new generation, but we have all of these weapons sitting here, and there's no way with cost overruns, with everything that comes with giant military production, how are you going to get the American people to do it?

00:07:20.720 Well, we'll just tell them the truth, we're out of armaments, and then we will have to rebuild our army.

00:07:29.940 Maybe we could even convince China in the end, if Russia and Iran falls, they have no real allies.

00:07:38.680 Don't take Taiwan. 0.99

00:07:43.220 Thoughts?

00:07:43.860 I think the only reason why I don't believe this is because I, I mean, we're evil enough to do it, but I don't believe it because I don't think we're smart enough to do it.

00:08:00.640 I don't think there's enough, hey, we all love America here.

00:08:04.980 Let's do, you know what I mean?

00:08:06.400 Right.

00:08:06.860 There's the evil, you know, generals and the war planners and everything.

00:08:10.100 I think there's enough of those in Washington, you know, the Lindsey Grahams that are like, yeah, we got to get them at any cost.

00:08:18.000 We get them.

00:08:19.320 I think those guys exist.

00:08:21.540 There's a lot of that type of stuff that you were talking about there where you throw things out like, well, and then Israel will take out Iran.

00:08:27.840 Like, think of what that it looks like, right?

00:08:30.840 Like these little assumptions that you make in one half sentence is like hundreds of thousands, millions of people dead.

00:08:40.920 What is the difference?

00:08:42.200 This is the way the elites always do it.

00:08:44.320 No, I know.

00:08:44.760 They did it World War I, World War II.

00:08:46.780 It's real time strategy.

00:08:47.900 It's those old games where you just used to like drag your troops around and you'd have them attack the little base and then you'd rebuild and you, you wouldn't think about the little, little guys that are going in there and dying.

00:08:56.400 That is the way this is thought about.

00:08:58.940 I mean, I risk.

00:08:59.880 I thought of this.

00:09:01.000 I'm reading a book or I was reading a book on JFK.

00:09:03.760 I can't even remember the name of it, but it was the JFK assassination.

00:09:07.260 And it's just documenting how many people hated him.

00:09:15.840 Okay.

00:09:16.480 They hated him.

00:09:18.100 The military CIA.

00:09:20.200 He really had a problem with those guys, just like Donald Trump.

00:09:24.060 really had a problem with those guys.

00:09:27.260 And he did not like the way we were fighting the Cold War.

00:09:31.380 And he's like, we are not going to keep escalating this war.

00:09:36.640 And one of the generals, I can't remember his name, but he was in charge of maybe NATO strategy or he was, he was big.

00:09:45.600 And he absolutely believed that thermonuclear war was inevitable.

00:09:51.800 And he was pushing hard launch first launch right now.

00:09:58.240 It's inevitable.

00:09:59.060 So launch now they'll never see it coming.

00:10:02.860 We can take them out.

00:10:05.000 Launch.

00:10:05.760 Now, this is not Cuban missile crisis time.

00:10:07.780 This is when he first gets into office launch and he actually goes around Kennedy's back and is calling him weak for not doing this.

00:10:18.680 I mean, it was a, it was a legitimate campaign inside the Pentagon to just launch our missiles.

00:10:26.760 Did you know that?

00:10:27.860 I, I think maybe you've told it to me or I've heard it maybe once, but it's, it's, it's impossible to believe.

00:10:35.220 And of course, these people, there's always somebody like that.

00:10:37.580 I guarantee you think it's bad here.

00:10:39.680 How many people are doing that in Russia right now?

00:10:42.920 How many people are going behind Vladimir Putin's back and saying, hey, like this guy won't even fire the nukes.

00:10:48.500 I mean, they're, they're, they're giving weapons to Ukraine.

00:10:51.820 They're killing our people.

00:10:52.920 How is he not firing these things?

00:10:55.780 There is a huge faction inside of Russia who's pushing that hard line approach.

00:11:00.460 And God forbid one of them wins an argument one day over vodkas.

00:11:04.840 God only knows what happens.

00:11:06.240 Wait until you see, wait until you see what is, what we're going to show you tonight about Russia and Iran and what they're actually doing and saying to one another.

00:11:17.480 And the language they're sharing with one another, it is spooky. 1.00

00:11:24.480 It is, they are, they are serious.

00:11:28.460 They are serious.

00:11:30.320 Yeah.

00:11:31.000 Yeah.

00:11:31.380 And so I, that's the, this is the, this is the biggest worry, right?

00:11:35.300 There's just this instability everywhere right now.

00:11:38.360 It's instability combined with a bunch of really incompetent people who don't know what they're doing and don't know how to manage this sort of instability at the, at the helm here in America.

00:11:50.800 And you, of course, have, I mean, our share of instability has, has been well documented here over the past few weeks, especially.

00:11:58.080 So you put all that together and like, it's just at some point you wonder if it's all going to spiral out of control.

00:12:04.200 So let me ask you, have you ever seen our government pay for hostages?

00:12:16.560 I think the only time we did it was the Iran-Contra thing, right?

00:12:22.460 I mean, I don't, off the top of my head that, I mean, that one pops to mind.

00:12:25.880 I think so.

00:12:26.300 There may be more.

00:12:27.140 So, uh, we had that one, but we paid, didn't we pay the Contras and they brokered the deal?

00:12:34.780 So we weren't really paying Iran.

00:12:36.800 We were paying the revolutionaries in South America.

00:12:39.440 And they would kind of say the same thing now, right?

00:12:42.440 I mean, they would kind of say, well, no, we're not really paying for hostages.

00:12:46.680 We're in this program and this is going, this, these dollars are going, you know, they always have some way of getting around it technically.

00:12:52.620 Have we ever, have we ever rewarded a terrorist state?

00:12:58.000 Have we ever, like another, I don't even know.

00:13:01.880 I keep seeing reports that say billion and million and no, no money from the government ever seems like real money.

00:13:08.760 So I have no idea, but I think it's $10 billion.

00:13:12.520 Um, and we released it yesterday.

00:13:15.240 The state department did and they said, well, it's cause it's for medical stuff.

00:13:19.280 Yeah.

00:13:19.900 What was their excuse?

00:13:20.840 What?

00:13:21.140 Well, they're going to do terrorism anyway.

00:13:23.480 You know, they're going to find terror no matter what.

00:13:25.580 So we might as well give them an extra 10 billion because, uh, I mean, they really said they really did.

00:13:30.780 They're going to do this anyway.

00:13:32.020 So it doesn't matter if we give them a bunch of extra money.

00:13:34.740 In what world does that make sense?

00:13:36.560 Jeffrey Dahmer is going to kill Laotian teenagers anyway.

00:13:39.220 So we gave him a, we sent him over a bundt cake.

00:13:41.800 Like what are you talking about?

00:13:43.860 That's not a good argument.

00:13:45.260 He's not going to want a bundt cake.

00:13:46.580 Like I've been pushing for the extra double size refrigerator freezer.

00:13:52.960 Bundt cake.

00:13:53.880 I just feel like that's not a good idea.

00:13:56.020 Like just because it's like, you know, well, you know, these people are really bad actors.

00:13:59.920 So therefore the reward isn't going to incentivize more bad acting.

00:14:04.220 Why?

00:14:04.620 So let's give them the reward.

00:14:06.180 That's not a good argument.

00:14:07.960 And you don't use that in anything.

00:14:10.020 No, it would be a terrible, terrible thing to do.

00:14:12.940 And it is.

00:14:13.460 And of course we all know as the Iranians last time we tried to do this pointed out to us, 1.00

00:14:19.540 this money is fungible.

00:14:20.840 It'll go wherever we want it to go.

00:14:22.180 They told us that.

00:14:23.260 They said it publicly.

00:14:24.600 Like they're going to give their people medicine.

00:14:27.140 Oh, that's a huge concern for them.

00:14:29.120 They're really worried.

00:14:30.140 You know what?

00:14:30.540 Oh gosh.

00:14:31.260 I hope, do we have enough Robitussin for the population?

00:14:33.760 I don't know.

00:14:34.380 Their God says, wipe out Israel, bring the Mahdi back. 1.00

00:14:40.340 Uh, and, uh, we'll start the end of the world war.

00:14:46.160 That's our top part.

00:14:47.420 God is telling us that.

00:14:49.800 Yeah, but we don't have enough Robitussin.

00:14:52.480 Yeah.

00:14:53.040 Come on.

00:14:53.480 That's not a big concern for them.

00:14:55.160 No, I don't think so.

00:14:56.420 I don't think so.

00:14:57.500 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:59.260 And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:15:01.800 Xi Jinping is now in San Francisco because we cleaned it up for him, you know, so it's nice.

00:15:07.240 Um, what is happening in our country is truly frightening.

00:15:12.760 We're doing things that I've never seen in America ever before.

00:15:17.300 And that's one of them.

00:15:19.020 Uh, Xi Van Fleet is, um, somebody who grew up in communist, uh, China.

00:15:25.980 She lived through the horrors of the cultural revolution.

00:15:29.060 She was a school girl, uh, and she was forced into the countryside along with other young Chinese

00:15:35.100 for reeducation after high school.

00:15:36.840 She escaped communism, came to America 30 years later.

00:15:41.500 She sees the signs that are exactly the same as Mao's Marxist cultural revolution.

00:15:48.960 She's just written a new book, uh, called Mao's America, a survivor's warning.

00:15:55.120 Xi, welcome to the program.

00:15:57.220 Thank you so much for having me back.

00:15:59.580 Oh, you're, you're welcome.

00:16:00.700 Um, I, I, I, I like talking to people who lived in communism or under dictators because they

00:16:10.220 have completely clear eyes on what we are, uh, seeing today.

00:16:16.580 Um, yes.

00:16:18.020 Yeah.

00:16:18.480 You say that, um, wokeism is Maoism with American characteristics.

00:16:26.120 What does that mean?

00:16:27.560 Yes.

00:16:28.360 That, that's what I mean is that what you just said that you've seen things happening

00:16:34.140 here.

00:16:34.480 You've never seen before.

00:16:35.720 Yes.

00:16:36.680 It's because you, uh, like many, many, uh, Americans don't know what happened in China

00:16:43.940 and what happened in cultural revolution.

00:16:46.240 And, uh, we know because we lived through it and that's exactly the same thing.

00:16:51.860 Why I say Maoism with American characteristics, it's the same thing.

00:16:58.500 The, uh, identical, identity politics, cancel culture, weaponization of, uh, young people,

00:17:06.880 indoctrination in school, all this happened in China and happened to me.

00:17:12.940 And, uh, it's a little different here is that in China, Mao used class to divide people

00:17:20.120 and divide people into red class and a black class.

00:17:24.780 Basically one is the enemy of the state and one is the ally of the, uh, the government and

00:17:31.300 the party.

00:17:31.900 And here they use something different.

00:17:34.040 They use race and they then use gender.

00:17:37.280 They use sexuality and it, it, it looked like it's different, but it's different.

00:17:42.940 It's the same.

00:17:43.780 Well, this is indoctrination of, uh, of children.

00:17:46.880 It's exactly the same.

00:17:47.960 This is, this is something that the communists learned in the 1960s when honestly the Beatles

00:17:55.420 song revolution came out and said, if you're walking around with the posters of chairman

00:17:59.560 Mao, nobody's going to listen to you anyhow.

00:18:01.700 Um, and they realized that class would not do it in America.

00:18:06.960 They had to do it based on, on race, but tell me about the, um, the four olds.

00:18:14.880 I don't think most people understand this.

00:18:16.960 And this to me shows how close it is to the Chinese cultural revolution.

00:18:23.860 Yes, uh, that is, uh, Chinese style cancel culture and they are very specific.

00:18:31.100 It is the old culture, old idea, old habits, and old custom. 0.80

00:18:40.260 Those things, uh, to be eradicated, to get rid of, to be destroyed, including statues, uh,

00:18:48.960 names of streets, names of stores, names of food labels, names of, uh, uh, institutions

00:18:55.160 all have to be changed to be politically correct.

00:18:59.520 Why they do that?

00:19:00.440 Why they do cancel culture?

00:19:02.060 Because they want to replace the tradition with something new.

00:19:05.520 And in China, that is Maoism.

00:19:08.620 And here is Maoism with American characteristics.

00:19:12.880 So Mao was much more open about what he was bringing in, wasn't he?

00:19:18.720 I mean, here they keep denying that any of this is happening and it's all there.

00:19:23.980 We can see it, but they deny it.

00:19:25.840 Mao was open and saying, this is what the new China will look right, look like.

00:19:32.000 Yes.

00:19:32.860 And that's the, uh, the, the part that is very deceptive.

00:19:37.400 Mao had power.

00:19:38.900 What he was doing is to have absolute power.

00:19:43.280 He was, uh, um, he, he feared that he was losing control of the party and, but he was in

00:19:50.120 control.

00:19:50.500 So he has to, he can be open about many, many things, but here they have to, um, to, to

00:19:58.560 hide their true intention.

00:20:00.320 Since they use this very well, um, a very attractive slogans and, uh, and, and then a lot of people

00:20:08.680 fall for it.

00:20:10.100 And, uh, that is the problem with Marxism.

00:20:13.480 It gives picture, uh, give you a beautiful picture of what it stands for.

00:20:19.940 And, uh, people don't know, they fall for it.

00:20:22.460 And I tell people, we feel for it too in China.

00:20:26.040 And what we got, we got slavery and we got really the absolute tyranny.

00:20:33.960 And that's what's going to happen here.

00:20:36.200 So people wake up and how you wake up, not to find out yourself.

00:20:41.320 If you'll find out yourself, that'd be too late.

00:20:43.280 And I hope they are wise enough to hear from people like me who lived through it and, uh,

00:20:49.420 and, and, and then really learn from history.

00:20:53.400 So that's what we don't have here.

00:20:54.980 People help us out with this because I think Antifa, BLM, social justice warriors on the

00:21:03.500 campus, et cetera, et cetera.

00:21:04.780 I think those are like the Brown shirts, uh, or the red guards, um, from, from China.

00:21:11.640 Um, but people will say, no, these are just honest people trying to X, Y, Z.

00:21:17.740 What is the difference between BLM and Antifa and the social justice warriors and the

00:21:24.860 red guards?

00:21:26.060 Yeah, no difference because they're all indoctrinated to believe what they were told.

00:21:32.680 And, uh, so red guards, you think they're just monsters?

00:21:35.920 No, they, they were a lot of them from elite universities and, uh, and, uh, middle schools.

00:21:42.640 And they're from well, uh, um, um, we're all families.

00:21:47.420 They were not monsters, but they turned into monsters because of indoctrination.

00:21:52.520 The first killing that took place during the cultural revolution was done by a group of 0.98

00:21:58.780 young girls in the most prestigious middle school in Beijing.

00:22:04.140 And they were like 12 to 16.

00:22:06.060 They beat, tortured, and killed their principal.

00:22:10.240 And there was no consequence.

00:22:12.020 And after that, killing become commonplace.

00:22:15.660 And then why, why did they go after their, their teachers?

00:22:18.960 Because they were told that those in control and those in power were the ones want to take

00:22:25.000 us back to the capitalism.

00:22:27.240 And so for, for young kids, what are the, uh, people in, uh, in, in power?

00:22:33.400 Their teachers, their principals.

00:22:34.800 So they were the one, the first one to be the target.

00:22:37.600 Um, so, um, here in America, um, you just said they didn't, they weren't, they weren't

00:22:45.780 held, um, and they paid no price for it here in America.

00:22:49.880 Our justice system has been completely dismantled, you know, defund the police, all of this stuff.

00:22:55.980 Crime is on the rise.

00:22:57.180 It doesn't seem like anybody's punished.

00:23:00.580 If you're on the right side, you're not punished.

00:23:02.500 But in China, did they do the same thing that they dismantle the justice system and the 0.86

00:23:07.520 police?

00:23:08.880 Yes.

00:23:09.240 It's called smashing the justice system, the whole justice system, including police and

00:23:16.060 the court were dismantled.

00:23:18.500 And, uh, so there's no consequence.

00:23:21.140 No one can stop or dare to challenge the Red Guards. 0.85

00:23:24.280 And that's the Chinese version of defund the police. 0.75

00:23:28.320 So she, uh, I have been, I've been talking about this coming for two decades almost now.

00:23:38.100 I know.

00:23:38.740 And it is, it is now here.

00:23:41.320 How much time do we have?

00:23:43.760 What period, uh, is this like in China?

00:23:47.900 We're how far away from losing it.

00:23:51.520 Are we?

00:23:52.960 We are very, very close.

00:23:54.860 Actually, we are losing, but I do think that there is a hope.

00:23:59.960 And I, just, uh, three years ago, I was a quiet, shy Asian American.

00:24:07.240 I don't share my opinion with people.

00:24:10.540 Yeah.

00:24:10.840 I was just quiet.

00:24:12.140 I became a voice.

00:24:14.000 And because I know if I don't, uh, speak up and, uh, and, uh, stand out and, uh, to fight

00:24:22.840 back, we're going to lose our country.

00:24:24.580 And I do not want to live under communism again.

00:24:28.060 During my, uh, speeches, uh, across the country, I met all sorts of people, parents, just like

00:24:35.800 me.

00:24:36.060 Three years ago, they were quiet, never pay attention to school board.

00:24:39.880 They, they, they, they never got involved in, uh, local politics or, or any politics.

00:24:44.780 I met so many of them.

00:24:46.600 Now they are committed.

00:24:48.040 They are, because they, uh, we can not, they are committed and to fight, to save this country.

00:24:54.400 So that's our hope.

00:24:55.620 And that's exactly how we, uh, save this country.

00:24:59.800 We have to be.

00:25:00.720 Did, um, did those people exist in China?

00:25:04.720 Uh, no.

00:25:05.840 No, because at that, no, if you wait by then, it's too late because those people, um, don't

00:25:13.900 exist because you can only find them in prison, in gulags or in the graves.

00:25:19.460 Hmm.

00:25:21.460 Uh, she, I, I can't thank you enough.

00:25:24.480 Um, well, what do you think just off on another subject?

00:25:27.620 What do you think of president Z's, uh, trip to, uh, San Francisco and how San Francisco

00:25:33.080 cleaned itself up for that?

00:25:34.500 I know, I just tweeted out and, uh, and, uh, and then they have people, um, welcoming him

00:25:41.440 with, um, uh, with, uh, Chinese, uh, flag, which to me, that is a murderous flag. 0.86

00:25:48.560 And I said, where are the social justice warrior protesters, uh, against the genocide by Xi

00:25:56.040 Jinping of the, uh, Uyghurs, Muslims in China? 1.00

00:25:59.460 Where are they?

00:26:00.480 They're not to be found.

00:26:02.340 They're not to be found.

00:26:03.320 Not to be found.

00:26:03.800 Thank you so much.

00:26:05.280 She, I appreciate it.

00:26:06.580 She, Van Fleet, the name of her book is Mao's America, a survivor's warning.

00:26:12.740 She compares the cultural revolution to the cultural revolution here in America to the

00:26:18.020 Chinese one.

00:26:19.220 Uh, and it is well worth a read and share with somebody that, you know, who maybe has

00:26:26.760 a possibility, uh, of waking up, by the way, she was at the pro Israel rally yesterday in

00:26:32.360 D.C.

00:26:32.820 So, thank you so much.

00:26:34.700 She, Van Fleet, Mao's America. 0.91

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00:26:44.160 Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:26:45.300 How are you, sir?

00:26:46.940 Doing well, Glenn.

00:26:47.600 How are you?

00:26:48.200 I am.

00:26:48.600 Well, I'm coming down with something, but, uh, but, uh, but other than that, great.

00:26:54.280 Other than that, great.

00:26:56.020 Um, so, uh, Vivek, let's talk a little bit about CBDCs because you were coming out today,

00:27:03.560 if I am not mistaken, uh, with your, uh, digital currency, um, policy.

00:27:12.780 Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:14.000 I mean, it's something that, that I think is important for us to understand as we go forward

00:27:19.120 as a country, where are the threats to liberty?

00:27:21.660 Where are they emerging?

00:27:22.720 Because many of them are backdoor threats, Glenn.

00:27:25.300 They're not the same front door threats of big government in the past.

00:27:28.820 So you and I have talked for years at this point about the threats posed by the ESG movement

00:27:34.300 and the capture of capital markets through ordinary dollars.

00:27:38.220 Well, part of that whole agenda was about using the market to advance agendas that the

00:27:44.360 government could not implement through the front door under the Constitution.

00:27:48.140 Same thing as their capture of big tech.

00:27:50.560 Well, think about the combination of those two now when it comes to the capture of our own

00:27:55.240 currencies.

00:27:55.760 There's a push in the United States and in other Western countries like the UK as well

00:28:00.440 to adopt what are called central bank digital currencies.

00:28:04.840 Well, I'm dead set against it.

00:28:06.440 The reason they're saying they want to do it is that China's doing it and that we need 0.96

00:28:10.320 to catch up to them or else we're going to fall behind technologically.

00:28:14.580 We have to ask ourselves why the heck China is doing this in the first place.

00:28:18.820 And here's the answer.

00:28:19.880 It's to be able to penalize citizens in their bank account with the ultimate social credit

00:28:25.620 score, the amount of money you have in your bank, if you're doing something that the government

00:28:30.340 doesn't like, if you're engaging in speech or in a protest that the government does not

00:28:34.840 approve of, like the white sheet revolution in China, for example, wiping out the amount

00:28:40.500 of financial assets you have as a way of exercising power and dominion.

00:28:44.720 So I don't want to see that happen in the U.S.

00:28:47.300 And one of the things they'll say is, isn't that going to lead the dollar to be less strong?

00:28:51.480 No, it's actually the opposite.

00:28:53.200 The dollar will be more strong if it is actually a currency that cannot be taken over by the

00:28:58.800 whim of the government.

00:28:59.580 And so while I'm dead set against central bank digital currencies, I am for the rise of

00:29:06.080 alternative currencies that people are able in a freedom loving country and world to be

00:29:10.960 able to avail themselves of a decentralized private cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin and otherwise

00:29:16.640 that the government is threatened by.

00:29:18.760 That's good.

00:29:19.620 And I think that we should want more competition to the existing system without the government

00:29:23.900 regulating it out of existence.

00:29:25.860 But what we should be against is the government creating a central bank digital currency of

00:29:30.340 its own.

00:29:31.500 And Glenn, I think these are new threats to liberty.

00:29:33.380 And I do think it's going to take someone from the next generation, if I may say, from

00:29:37.540 my generation, to lead us forward to understand where the new threats to liberty present themselves

00:29:43.560 because it's not 1980 anymore.

00:29:45.660 And we need to wake up to these new threats today.

00:29:48.240 I will tell you, you know, I'm a fan of yours.

00:29:51.220 That's not an endorsement, obviously, but I am a fan of yours.

00:29:53.880 And I do like the fact that you are from a younger generation that sees what's coming

00:30:02.260 over the horizon, especially with your your background.

00:30:06.720 So what do you what do you suggest happens with digital assets?

00:30:12.140 Because right now, I you know, if I had Bitcoin, but I lost it in a boating accident, I wouldn't

00:30:20.460 want to pull it out because, honestly, I don't know exactly the tax thing.

00:30:25.540 I it is such a hassle.

00:30:28.960 And I think they're doing that intentionally to.

00:30:32.820 Of course, they're doing it intentionally.

00:30:33.780 Correct.

00:30:34.200 Of course, they're doing it intentionally.

00:30:35.520 So, Glenn, this is another example of the cancerous administrative state.

00:30:39.280 If the people of this country want to vote through the front door and say, hey, we don't

00:30:43.440 want this, we don't want Bitcoin or other alternatives to the dollar to be traded in

00:30:48.140 the U.S., which I don't think most people in this country would ever say.

00:30:50.920 But if they did, fine, that's the law of the land.

00:30:53.720 But that's not the way it's working right now.

00:30:55.700 It's the administrative state, those three letter agencies like the SEC that are through

00:31:00.660 the back door deciding that they want to shadow government, utilize legislating them

00:31:06.040 out of existence, but not through the front door.

00:31:07.980 So they're applying a set of regulatory standards that Congress never actually authorized to

00:31:14.060 backdoor silence the new kinds of currencies that people use as alternatives to the U.S.

00:31:20.440 dollar.

00:31:21.080 And I think that that's a violation of the cardinal rule of our Constitution.

00:31:24.520 The laws are passed through the front door, not through the back door.

00:31:27.940 So what we need is regulatory clarity.

00:31:29.960 It's shameful that you have a chairman of the SEC right now, Gary Gensler, who refuses even

00:31:35.900 in his testimony before Congress to say whether Ethereum is or is not a security for the purpose

00:31:43.240 of securities laws.

00:31:44.960 Ambiguity is the friend of tyranny.

00:31:47.500 And so when you have regulators that get to make up after the fact the regulations that

00:31:52.000 they're enforcing, that's what we're seeing in the energy sector.

00:31:54.980 It's what we're seeing in the health care sector.

00:31:56.520 It's what we're seeing across the U.S. economy.

00:31:58.640 It's something that would make our founding fathers roll over in their graves.

00:32:02.040 We're a nation of laws.

00:32:03.220 And if you want to ban something, ban it through the front door.

00:32:06.740 Don't use the regulatory shadow government of people who are never elected to their positions

00:32:11.160 to do it instead.

00:32:13.420 So one of the things that I'm actually going to, I swear an oath to the Constitution as

00:32:16.740 the next president, Glenn, if I'm elected.

00:32:18.920 Well, one of the things that the most important Supreme Court case of our lifetime, it came out

00:32:23.120 last year, was West Virginia versus EPA.

00:32:26.080 And that held that if Congress has not given a three-letter agency the power to issue a

00:32:32.980 regulation, but they're doing it anyway, that regulation is unconstitutional.

00:32:37.260 Well, the good news is on day one of my administration, we rescind all of the regulations

00:32:42.120 that fail that test.

00:32:43.660 That's a majority of the regulations that are on the books today.

00:32:47.280 And by the way, we're going to fire 75% of the people who are working in that apparatus

00:32:50.400 too.

00:32:51.460 That's how we restore our constitutional republic.

00:32:54.380 And I know that might sound scary to some people or extreme, but if somebody is not offering

00:32:59.100 an extreme proposal or a proposal that sounds extreme, it means they're not really serious

00:33:03.840 about taking on the deep state.

00:33:05.460 And I think that's what it's going to take to get the job done.

00:33:07.920 So you are announcing today freedom to code, freedom to financial self-reliance, and freedom

00:33:14.020 from regulatory overreach.

00:33:16.600 That's right.

00:33:17.240 And I'm going to be speaking tomorrow at the Bitcoin, at the blockchain summit in Texas,

00:33:21.180 and offering what I think should be not just a Republican vision, it's a pro-liberty vision

00:33:26.860 to say that, you know what, I'm the U.S. president, I want the dollar to remain the reserve currency

00:33:31.680 of the world.

00:33:32.380 Our national debt is creating a lot of doubt about that.

00:33:35.400 But one of the best ways we do it isn't by stifling competition to the dollar.

00:33:40.080 It's by saying that we actually like holding our feet to the fire through accountability to

00:33:44.740 people who do want to opt out of that system by holding Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies

00:33:48.900 can do so without fear of regulatory, fundamental regulatory tyranny.

00:33:56.040 And I think that that's good for the U.S. dollar in the long run.

00:33:58.660 It's good for our country in the long run.

00:34:00.740 That's what Thomas Jefferson, he was a big proponent of financial self-reliance.

00:34:04.940 That's what Thomas Jefferson, who was, by the way, 33 years old when he signed the Declaration

00:34:08.220 of Independence, inventing the swivel chair while he was at it.

00:34:11.460 These were innovators, and I think that the innovators who founded this country would embrace

00:34:16.260 the exact policy agenda that I'm rolling out tomorrow morning to say that more competition

00:34:20.580 is good, not bad, and we shouldn't want these regulators choking currency alternatives to

00:34:25.960 the U.S. dollar out of existence.

00:34:27.920 So it's a little unfair because I haven't asked Nikki Haley to come on and actually explain

00:34:33.880 this to me, but we're reaching out to her today.

00:34:37.200 Um, the, she just recently said that all the code for social media should be transparent.

00:34:46.200 It's a little ambiguous if she meant it just for the government or for everybody.

00:34:50.220 Uh, and the other is she, for national security purposes, believes everyone should have to be

00:34:56.040 verified as a user and your name should be, you know, uh, your name on social platforms.

00:35:04.840 What do you think of that?

00:35:05.520 That sounds like something Xi Jinping would say, and I think that there is a deep ideological

00:35:10.640 divide right now in the GOP, and I think it's good for us to smoke it out.

00:35:14.120 It's not an attack on anybody, and even people listening may disagree with me on this.

00:35:17.660 That's okay.

00:35:18.500 This is a good debate for us to have in our party.

00:35:20.920 Do you want to go to the Dick Cheney version of the post-Patriot Act surveillance state,

00:35:25.960 where, you know, our founding fathers, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, James Madison, they wrote

00:35:30.820 the Federalist Papers under pseudonym.

00:35:32.540 I think you should have the freedom to do that in this country.

00:35:35.160 It's part of what it means to be free, especially in an increasingly tyrannical government environment.

00:35:41.040 Nikki Haley disagrees with that.

00:35:42.220 She thinks you should be required to actually identify yourself before you post something

00:35:45.920 on the internet or online and disclose to the government for national security reasons.

00:35:51.260 Anytime somebody's using those words, national security, for an infringement on liberty domestically,

00:35:55.300 I'm dead set against it, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat saying it.

00:35:59.300 Same thing when it comes to the questions of censorship.

00:36:01.880 I think there are other candidates who believe that if there's speech we disagree with, that

00:36:06.040 the right answer is to censor it.

00:36:07.740 I say a lot of the speech we're seeing is heinous in this country, even in recent weeks.

00:36:11.980 But the right answer is never censorship.

00:36:14.040 It is always more speech, not less speech.

00:36:17.040 And I think this is all in the backdrop of a divide when it comes to foreign policy in our

00:36:20.900 country, Glenn, is I think that there are some who believe that it's the job of the U.S.

00:36:24.840 to be the global hegemon in places like Ukraine and elsewhere, making the decisions of intervening

00:36:30.160 in somebody else's conflict that doesn't advance the American interest.

00:36:33.520 And I'm dead set against that.

00:36:34.700 I believe that my sole moral duty as the next U.S. president is to the Americans right here

00:36:40.880 at home in our homeland.

00:36:42.540 And those things go together because it's that foreign policy vision that also allows them

00:36:47.240 to invoke national security as an excuse to really infringe on our liberty here at home.

00:36:52.360 And I think it's good for us to have this debate in this GOP primary season now.

00:36:56.580 Do you want to go the direction of the George Bush, Dick Cheney vision of the Republican Party,

00:37:00.480 as some do?

00:37:01.620 I'm not in that camp.

00:37:02.500 I want to lead us to the Republican Party of the future, where the Republican Party stands for

00:37:07.140 standing for the interests of American citizens here at home by reviving the founding ideals.

00:37:12.620 And yes, that includes the First Amendment above all, and that we will stand for that

00:37:16.500 without apology.

00:37:17.540 And so, Sarah to say, she and I have a very different vision on this.

00:37:21.460 And I personally believe that mine is more consistent with the founding vision of this

00:37:25.780 country.

00:37:26.240 And if we revive that, that's how we reignite and reunite our country.

00:37:30.280 That's why I'm in this.

00:37:30.980 When we look at our founding vision, it required us to have a moral center.

00:37:38.600 We don't really have a moral center anymore.

00:37:42.800 Everything is up for grabs.

00:37:44.300 Our police are, you know, in disarray.

00:37:47.640 There was a huge mob in Detroit.

00:37:50.020 I think it was last night or the night before.

00:37:52.160 Firefighters arrived to use the jaws of life to get these people out of a horrible car wreck.

00:37:57.500 The people started throwing rocks at them.

00:38:00.400 And the driver died.

00:38:02.100 I mean, you know, we have decayed.

00:38:05.360 So how do we get this back to where we all feel we have personal responsibilities, not

00:38:12.980 just rights?

00:38:14.940 Absolutely.

00:38:15.640 And rights and responsibilities go hand in hand together.

00:38:18.520 But we've forgotten the responsibility part of that, Glenn.

00:38:21.880 So some of this isn't going to be done by the president.

00:38:23.880 I mean, they think the president, half the job is policy, but half the job is also the

00:38:28.100 national character that we create, the example that we set.

00:38:31.220 I think it's been a long time since we've had a president where I could look my son's

00:38:34.800 in the eye and tell them, I want you to grow up and be like him, frankly.

00:38:38.640 And I think that that's the standard I want people to hold me to.

00:38:42.900 If I'm the next president, that's a high standard.

00:38:45.160 But I also think that part of this comes from pastors, parents, teachers, coaches across

00:38:51.040 the country stepping up as well.

00:38:52.860 The conservative movement, I think we've fallen short where for a long time we will complain

00:38:57.180 about the left's agenda of race, gender, sexuality, climate.

00:39:01.980 I want us talking more about the individual, family, nation, God.

00:39:08.680 The individual, family, nation, God, that beats race, gender, sexuality, and climate if

00:39:14.400 we have the courage to actually stand for something, not just against what the other side puts up.

00:39:19.800 And what I'm seeing, Glenn, I'm traveling college campuses.

00:39:22.080 I'm probably into more college campuses than any Republican candidate who's run in our

00:39:25.920 history. And you think that people in that next generation, the assumption that many

00:39:30.680 people have is they're against these shared American values and they're leftist progressives.

00:39:35.640 What I see is something slightly different.

00:39:38.420 They are lost.

00:39:40.160 They are directionless, rudderless, hungry for some direction and purpose and meaning.

00:39:46.120 And so if we can have the courage to actually not just condemn what the left is filling that

00:39:50.320 vacuum with, and I've done that too.

00:39:51.780 I'm not criticizing other people.

00:39:53.340 This is a self-reflection.

00:39:54.300 I've done a lot of that, including in the books I've written that you know and otherwise.

00:39:58.520 Now we need to level up and say, here's a vision of our own.

00:40:02.240 And young people, especially Glenn, will flock in our direction if we actually give them

00:40:06.980 something to believe in.

00:40:08.460 And that's part of what I'm trying to do in this race and hopefully in leading this country.

00:40:12.140 That's how we actually revive that moral core.

00:40:14.500 I've got about 40 seconds.

00:40:15.780 I just have to ask you, there's an editorial in the Wall Street Journal today, an op-ed that

00:40:20.140 says we need to take Gazans into America. 0.99

00:40:23.920 We haven't taken our share of those fleeing from the Middle East and those Palestinians 1.00

00:40:28.880 from Gaza need to come here. 1.00

00:40:30.680 I'm against it.

00:40:33.000 And I think that we have our own issues to deal with here at home.

00:40:36.900 The number one lesson we need to learn is if that can happen to Israel, what happened 0.63

00:40:40.520 was wrong, it was subhuman, and it was a failure of defense and border defenses, that could happen

00:40:46.100 right here at home with 70,000 special interest alien apprehensions from Middle Eastern countries

00:40:51.400 on our own border.

00:40:52.400 So I'm far more concerned with protecting our own borders in this country than to increase

00:40:57.820 what already is too high of a refugee and humanitarian intake of immigrants to this country.

00:41:04.260 It's wrong.

00:41:05.300 That would be a step in the wrong direction.

00:41:07.900 My view is that, to the contrary, though, Israel needs to be able to defend itself to

00:41:11.540 the fullest.

00:41:12.420 We should stand diplomatically for Israel's right to do so. 0.87

00:41:15.260 But that's different from saying that we need to bring a bunch of Gazans to the United

00:41:18.240 States of America.

00:41:19.360 That's wrong.

00:41:20.180 And we have our own issues to deal with here at home.

00:41:22.000 And that's my moral obligation as the next president, to look after American interests

00:41:25.880 here.

00:41:26.460 Vivek Ramaswamy, thank you so much.

00:41:28.480 As always, Vivek 2024, V-I-V-E-K.

00:41:34.060 People call him Vivek all the time.

00:41:36.720 It's Vivek2024.com.

00:41:39.660 Vivek, thank you so much.

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