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Wisconsin Supreme Court Strikes Down Governor Scott Walker's Stay At Home Prohibition Order, Which Means Anyone Can Go Home Anywhere in the State of Wisconsin Could Be Open Anywhere else? Glenn Beck explains why this is such a bad day for Wisconsin and the rest of the country.
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Welcome to the podcast. Today, we talk a little bit about the ridiculous nature of the restrictions
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being put in by government, not only looking at some of the overreach, but also looking
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at how much they actually matter and how much we as Americans listen to them. You know,
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you guys are just not paying attention to authority as much as you're supposed to. You're
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gonna have to work on that. Scott Walker, former governor, joins us to talk about the
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developments in Wisconsin. Tim Poole is here on the media. We talked to an officer in Seattle who
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says, look, he's not going to enforce unconstitutional measures, might cost him his
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job. And we go through the entire Obamagate scandal. If you don't understand it, this is a great show to
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check out. You can get all the information that kind of leads you to the understanding of what
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actually went on with this. It's a bit complicated, but you need to know the story because it's going
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to be a big factor as we go towards the election. You can also watch the full show with all the
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documents and everything else from Glenn's show last night. You can get that, of course,
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at blazetv.com slash Glenn and use the promo code Glenn for 30 bucks off. That offer ends tomorrow,
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so please don't miss it. Friday. As well as you can get all the information on what we're doing as
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far as the government orders and how the American people are reacting to them. I did that on
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I want to start with a piece of audio from a state Supreme Court
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justice. This was from Esquire magazine. In discussing the governor's order to stay at home,
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the assistant attorney general Colin Roth appeared to be rethinking his career choice. Bradley,
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the Supreme Court justice, went full on Glenn Beck. Never go full on Glenn Beck. This is what the press
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called full on Glenn Beck. Listen to this judge. My question for you is where in the constitution did
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the people of Wisconsin confer authority on a single unelected cabinet secretary to compel almost
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six million people to stay at home and close their businesses and face imprisonment if they don't
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comply with no input from the legislature without the consent of the people. Isn't it the very definition
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of tyranny for one person to order people to be imprisoned for going to work among other ordinarily
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lawful activities? Where does the constitution say that's permissible counsel? One of the bravest guys
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and the guy who appointed her to the Supreme Court, a successful governor, economic education,
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health care reformer, Scott Walker joins us now. Governor, how are you, sir? Hey, Glenn,
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even better today because of the Supreme Court yesterday, for sure. Okay, so the Supreme Court
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yesterday in Wisconsin struck down the stay-at-home order. What does that mean? Well, there was no stay,
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so it means technically anyone anywhere in the state of Wisconsin could be opened. The one caveat to that
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is Wisconsin is a home rule state, so there are still the ability of local jurisdictions. So a handful of
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communities, city of Milwaukee, city of Racine, Dane County, where our state capitol's at, all very
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liberal Democrat areas, their governor, excuse me, their mayors and or county executives issued similar
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orders to what the governor's administration had done. But for everybody else, it means technically
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any retail establishment. There were taverns open last night around the state. There were other places
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out there, although, and I heard the tail end of your last segment, in the end, I've said for weeks,
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the government can get out of the way, but ultimately the market will determine when businesses
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reopen, when employees feel safe to come back, and when customers ultimately come back as well. But
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the first step is getting the government out of the way. So the new governor, the guy who I think
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replaced you, had issued the stay at home order. He said yesterday, last night on CNN, this puts our
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state into chaos. Now we have no plan, no protections for the people. When you have more people in a small
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space, I don't care if it's bars, restaurants, or the home, you're going to be able to spread the virus
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today, thanks to the Republican legislators convinced for Supreme Court justices not to look at the law,
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but look at their political careers, I guess. It's a bad day for Wisconsin, because now it's the Wild
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West. Well, it's like they've suspended common sense, not only in his statement, but in others
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across the country. We see this over and over again. We have been operating for nearly two months
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now with the threat of this coronavirus, and every time anyone goes into a grocery store, every time
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someone goes into a pharmacy, every time someone goes into a hardware store, every time someone shows up
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at a manufacturing plant that is deemed essential by the government, they've been able to do that
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overwhelmingly across the country safely. So to me, it just defies common sense that now suddenly
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the so-called non-essential businesses can open finally, because those justices actually upheld the
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law. They did exactly the opposite of what he said. They actually upheld the law. Now, does that mean
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that people who've been operating safely are suddenly going to go crazy and not use the same
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safety precautions they've done before? Of course not.
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You know, here's the thing. First of all, I think you guys had the election when nobody knew what was
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going to happen, and it shows that there was no spread from you guys holding the election, which,
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quite honestly, at the time, I would have found surprising. But there was no problem from holding
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the election. Yeah, I guess the governor didn't learn his lesson from that one. And when did we go
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from a let's not overwhelm the system, let's not overwhelm the hospitals and the doctors and the nurses,
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let's flatten the curve to nobody's going out until everybody is safe?
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Yeah, it's the flatten the curve versus now we have to find a cure before anyone can set foot out there.
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The logic, I went back and looked. Two months ago yesterday, I wrote a piece on Facebook about how
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we need to be rational. We needed to follow the guidelines. We probably shouldn't have big
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sporting events or concerts for a while until we could figure this out. But that we could do these
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things without shutting down the economy, we just had to use our common sense. We had to be purposeful
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in our actions to make sure we were safe. The same is true today. Over two months, we've flattened the
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curve. But we still have government officials who, to me, at least seem like they're hiding under
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their bed, hoping to God somehow this will just go away. It's not going away. It's not going to
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change anytime soon. And if we don't want to see not just our economy devastated, but think of all
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the people across America who missed out on doctors visits and clinics and other checkups who missed out
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on early detection. I mean, this is literally a life threatening issue, even when it comes to reopening
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the economy. So, uh, governor, do you really believe that these people are hiding under their
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beds or is there something else involved? I mean, there is, we have to balance things and that is
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what a leader does. He gets advice from the Fauci's and they say, Fauci, just tell me about the health
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effects. And then somebody else has to advise, tell me just about the economic effects. And then I have
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to make choices as a leader on what we do. We are now looking at a group of people in Washington,
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and it seems to be falling on party lines that they, for some reason, just don't want to open
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the economy. And no one is talking about the deadly effects of America going down the drain or going into
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a deep depression, not only the effects financially, but the effects of health and welfare all over the
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Even amazingly, a group that I'm not aligned with it don't normally reference, but even a United
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Nations report recently, just this week showed that a grave concern about massive, I mean, we're talking
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crippling poverty around the world because of the economic effects here. And their point was that
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this will actually have a much larger devastating impact on fatalities, on casualties because of
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malnutrition, because of depression, because of suicide, because of all sorts of issues. I think it's
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a combination of some are afraid and some have an agenda. When I look at Nancy Pelosi's, and we could
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talk all day about her ridiculous $3 trillion bill that's out there, but one of the things I think has
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been ignored about what she just put out this week is they've got a provision that would extend the
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federal unemployment enhanced benefit till January 1. That tells me Democrats believe or hope somehow
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an agenda that they want the economy not to open until after the start of the year, which conveniently
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happens to be after the presidential election. I got to say, if you're an American, not a Republican,
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not a Democrat, not a conservative, not a liberal, but an American, that should scare the crap out of you.
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And we should be doing something about it. So do you think that the American people are? I mean,
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I think that my father used to say there is no such thing as bad. It doesn't nothing is bad. It's
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depends on how you react to it. That will make it a bad thing in your life or a good thing. You can go
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to prison for robbing a bank. That's not bad. That is something that you could use now to reforge
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yourself and become better. The coronavirus, I think, has helped a lot of people get perspective
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on their life. It has shown us that we need family. It shows us that, you know, this arguing back and
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forth with the politics is really Washington doesn't have the power. We have the power.
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We could use this to wake up on the Bill of Rights, etc., etc. Or we will allow it to destroy us. Do you
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think the American people are waking up on both sides of the aisle and saying, wait a minute, wait a
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minute, these essential Bill of Rights liberties are really important?
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I do. Some more slowly than others, but I do think they're waking up. Yesterday's ruling in the
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Wisconsin Supreme Court was a good step in the right direction because, as I said, after the ruling came
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out, you know, upholding the rule of law is important. Even in an emergency, it's important.
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And I'm optimistic, as frustrated as I am, as challenging as times are, I think about America
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in particular, a country that started out, you know, defeating the greatest military power at the
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time, who overcame a civil war that would have torn apart just as any other country in the world.
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We overcame, excuse me, two world wars, took on 9-11. We're Americans, and we're a country based on
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freedom. And as long as we cherish those freedoms and liberties, even in times like this, I have no doubt
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we can overcome anything. But part of that means free will and the ability to engage in free
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enterprise. That's something that I think is fundamentally a part of who we are. It's why
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King Solomon talked about finding joy in your labor. I often say nobody signed my high school
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yearbook saying good luck becoming dependent on the government. We all, no matter where we come from,
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what we look like, we all in our hearts want to work. We want to find joy in our labor. We need to
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get the government to unleash that and get it out of the way so that we can go back to work
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and restore America again. Do you think there's anything to be said for
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having Trump declare America an economic empowerment zone and help these small businesses
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and everybody else get back on their feet by loosening some of these restrictions for a period of
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time? Oh, absolutely. I think that's one of the great things, even some of the temporary things
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that now the president, but even some state local officials have done. It should draw attention
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to the question of why did we have these things in the first place? If we could operate under these
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circumstances without those onerous restrictions from the federal, state and local governments,
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we shouldn't have them in the first place. And that will unleash unlimited prosperity going forward.
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One last question. I'm going to go back to the local lawmakers or the local administrators.
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You said that some local counties and cities can, you know, still say you're not opening up in
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Wisconsin. But didn't the Supreme Court yesterday say that these are not enforceable?
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Well, and that's part that's going to be probably another legal challenge, although by the time it makes
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its way through the courts will probably be past that date. But it is the sort of thing that I
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think will have a lasting impact on where entrepreneurs decide to place their businesses
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at. We just saw it recently with Tesla making the threat that they were going to go somewhere else
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if California and that local county that was trying to restrict them didn't back away. They backed
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away. But that means we need to be vigilant everywhere and every place at every moment because the
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government's there to serve the people and not the other way around. And sadly, we've seen too many
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examples of at all levels of government of people trying to get the people to serve the government.
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We should never be for that. That's not how our country is founded. And it certainly shouldn't be
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the case. We're tested the most when we face times of emergency and challenge. This is one of those
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Well, we miss your leadership as a governor and and and miss all the fodder that we were able to
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talk about because you were just pissing everybody off. We loved it and we miss you. Thank you so much,
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Scott. Glenn, one last quick comment shows the importance, particularly in this presidential but
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other elections, judicial appointments. Two of the four on that four person majority were people I
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appointed. The other two I endorsed before I was governor. That's the lasting impact is putting people
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uphold the law on the bench at all levels. Yes. Thank you very much, Scott Walker. All right.
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I know what you're thinking. People ask me all the time. Glenn, how on earth do you maintain that
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unbelievably handsome figure? It's not easy to have a body like this. I started 4 a.m. by running two
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miles. Then I bike back to, I don't know, 750 crunches, finish the morning with hours of hot yoga.
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OK, obviously, I don't do any of that. What I usually do is sit my fat butt down on the couch at night
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and I eat a bowl of ice cream because I really have a sweet tooth. And my wife has been saying to me
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for a while, you've got to try these Bilt Bars. It's like you're eating a candy bar. And I'm like,
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no, it's not. Are they protein bars? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's like eating the doormat. OK. And then I got
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Tim Pool is a journalist, award-winning American journalist, political commentator,
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founding member of Vice News. He has written and been featured by international media outlets,
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The Guardian, Reuters, New York Times, NBC, Fast Company, everybody. He's a truth teller. And he's
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a guy that you may have seen before. If you don't know who he is, if you just think of him in the
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in the stocking hat, he wears this like it's like like he's in my studio all the time.
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And you at least I am fascinated by what he brings to the table because he I can't pin him down on what
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he you know, how he would vote. And I don't really care how he would vote. He just seems to follow
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the truth. And that is rare these days. Now has his Tim cast at Tim cast dot com and YouTube dot com
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slash Tim cast. Welcome to the program, Tim Pool. Thanks for having me. You bet. So I wanted to
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talk to you about a couple of things. I don't understand what's happening with the media right
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now, especially when the documentation is coming out that shows that they never had any
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evidence on Russia. None. None of them did while they were on television. All of the reporters and
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the journalists that had their inside sources that said this is what they have. We now know they never
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had it. And those journalists were burned or were they in bed with this narrative and they didn't
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care what the truth was? I think they're in in bed is tough, but I think they don't care. I think
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it's a confirmation bias. I also think it's it's economically driven. These are news companies
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that are thinking, what's the fastest way to catch a quick buck? And one of the scariest things about how
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the media operates is that if I publish a fake story and it goes viral, I'm going to sell the
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ads on that story. I can then retract it later. I keep all that money. So, of course, these networks
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are going to keep inviting, inviting back the same people and they'll just default to, oh, but that was
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just the opinion of an official we had. We were just doing an interview. It's not our fault. But yes,
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as it turns out, these documents get released. These people are going on CNN, MSNBC for years
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under oath. They're admitting they know nothing. Nothing's really happening. And now the
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the crazy thing about the Obamagate scandal and where it's sort of leading us is that, well,
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it may not, you know, you know, Trump is saying it's worse than Watergate. We'll see if the evidence
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comes out. But the desperate attempt of many of these partisan media people to act like there's
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nothing here. You know, they're desperately trying to move the goalposts now because it really does look
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like the Obama administration was at the very least acting inappropriately and potentially digging up
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dirt on a political opponent. Now the media is all of a sudden we don't care about this,
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but they went nuts on it when it was Trump being accused. OK, so let me just give you this.
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This is from Secretary Rice. Remember, she she wrote that memo as she was leaving the Oval,
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you know, on Inauguration Day. And in that she said President Obama began the conversation by
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stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled
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by the intelligence and law enforcement community by the book. The president stressed he was not asking
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about initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our
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law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book. The problem is, is that the evidence
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now shows that he had a meeting on January 5th, the day after the FBI said there is nothing on General
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Flynn. We're closing the case. He called the law enforcement agencies and Brennan and everybody
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else called them into the office. And that's where they said, let's get him on the Logan Act.
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So everything that Susan Rice wrote is wrong. She said that he said, I'm not going to involve myself in
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this. If Donald Trump would have said, I don't care what the FBI says, go get Schiff. It would be
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bigger than Watergate. This is bigger than Watergate. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well,
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I think now that we've seen the unmasking documents come out, it's particularly fascinating to see
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members of the media now all of a sudden tweet, you know, post their Twitter posts, their Facebook
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posts or whatever saying, oh, but why does it matter that the Obama administration was seeking to
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unmask, you know, private U.S. citizens conversations, which is which is improper at the very
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least. But then so I need to go through this. I want to make sure I'm not getting it wrong. But
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my cursory understanding is that it was the day of or the day before that Obama's chief of staff
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sought to unmask Flynn. Then Obama has this meeting. Then Sally Yates is shocked to find out
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she doesn't even understand how Obama knows about this. So there's so much there's so much more
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evidence here that at the very least, Obama is trying to dig up their own political opponents.
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I know some people have said sabotage the Trump administration, but just trying to approach this
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very, very lightly. What they accused Trump of doing with Biden and Ukraine is nothing compared
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to what we have now as more and more evidence comes out, especially when you see those FBI notes.
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Why did they want to get Michael Flynn fired? What does that have to do with anything from a law
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enforcement perspective? Correct. That right there, you combine all these things and it really does
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look like it was an effort to just jam up Donald Trump's administration, maybe set some fires,
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cause some damage. It's substantially worse than Donald Trump on a phone call saying,
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hey, this Biden thing sounds weird. How about that? But where are these media personalities?
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They're in, you know, it's hard to say in bed with, but they really are rooting for Democrats
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and acting as their defense. I think it's, I think when you look at the reason for doing it,
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I think it's worse than this. Stephen, do we happen to have the video of Senator Church
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from 1975. Let's see if we pull this out of our box. Do we have that? Okay. Let me know if you,
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if you can pull it real quick. Senator Church, you know what the church committee was. It was in the
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1970s and it was looking into what the intelligence department was doing because of Hoover and his
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Hoover files where he was blackmailing people, et cetera, et cetera. And they were concerned that
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the FBI, the intelligence, they were getting technology. This is 1975. They were gaining
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technology that would be able to survey or surveil anyone and they could use it to smear people.
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Listen, listen to the warning of Senator Church in 1975.
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There would be no place to hide if this government ever became a tyranny. If a dictator ever took charge
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in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government
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could enable it to impose total tyranny. And there would be no way to fight back
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because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how
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privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of
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this technology. Now, why is this investigation important? I'll tell you why. Because I don't want
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to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny
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total in America. And we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this
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technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that
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abyss. That's the abyss from which there is no return. So this is 1975. This is why these unmasking
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laws and everything else were put in to make sure that never happened. Tim, I think we've
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crossed that bridge. People don't understand that this isn't about politics. This isn't about Flynn.
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This is about you. That law of unmasking is put in there because if the government ever happens to
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collect information on you and there's not an investigation on you, it cannot ever be released
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because it will smear you. And the government can shape the entire community by just smearing the
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right people and making it appear as though that there is something wrong. This is what he was
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talking about in 75. It's here. And the question is, who leaked Michael Flynn's name to the press?
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Who within the administration was getting this information, used that to damage the credibility,
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create public opinion. That's exactly why you're right at what you're saying.
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Last night, we did a special and there's some real questions that need to be answered.
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I had Lara Logan on with us as this was released. The list of all the people that had an unmasking
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uh, Samantha Power testified. She never asked for Michael Flynn's name to be unmasked. Uh, although
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the, the records that were released by the DNI yesterday show that she asked seven different
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days, uh, for an unmasking on, on Flynn. So she, go ahead. Did she say she, she, she didn't ask
00:25:46.920
or she said she didn't, she has no recollection of that. She may have said, uh, hang on. Let me get it
00:25:52.780
exactly. Uh, hang on here. Hang on. Shoot. Where is it? Uh, right here. Uh, Samantha, uh, crap. I'm
00:26:05.120
going to have to look forward in a, in a break. I'll come back to that. But I, she, she said she
00:26:09.080
had no recollection of doing it. I know she said that, but I think she's also said I didn't do it.
00:26:14.800
It might've been someone else, which is against the law. Unmasking has to happen by you. And if you
00:26:20.360
have no recollection of seven times asking for it to be unmasked seven times, I don't
00:26:28.520
buy it at all. So, so, so here's what, uh, here's what I'm thinking on the day the Washington
00:26:34.140
Post published the story about Michael Flynn, Joe Biden had made a request according to these
00:26:38.380
documents as well. I'm wondering if someone in the Obama administration had done this
00:26:42.800
and then Joe Biden, upon seeing news or stories, sought to figure out to confirm it on his end.
00:26:47.800
Because I know a lot of people, you know, there, there is people, there are people trying
00:26:51.500
to paint a picture that Biden made this request the same day. So they're assuming that Biden
00:26:55.860
then got the name and then sent it to the press possible, possible, but it could also be
00:27:00.080
it's possible. But I think, you know, the Washington Post probably had to go through jumpsuits
00:27:05.360
through some legal hoops for a few days before they were able to, you know, so I don't think
00:27:09.800
it was Biden who made the leak, but nonetheless, someone administration leaked Flynn's name,
00:27:14.680
which is a serious violation of, of, of our privacy rights. And we've, we've had problems
00:27:19.520
with the FISA courts going back for, well, I mean, for a really long time, I'm only 34.
00:27:23.900
So I remember back during the occupy, you know, era back 2010, 2011, you had all of these left-wing
00:27:29.240
activists dragging the intelligence agencies for the non-adversarial FISA courts, how there
00:27:34.900
was spying going on. The Obama administration had been spying like crazy, spying on foreign
00:27:39.180
countries, spying on private citizens. And today something strange happens. Now you have
00:27:44.140
many of these same people who, who once used to complain about it in media, justifying it.
00:27:49.540
No, no, no. This is, this is routine intelligence work. This is how the FBI operates. It's totally
00:27:52.860
okay. You know, of course, there are many, there's, there are a lot of progressives and journalists,
00:27:57.080
people like Glenn Greenwald, who have never stopped ragging on these abuses. And he's a very
00:28:01.600
relatively progressive guy, but you can really see the, the, the, the deception, the people
00:28:07.400
with no principles who just want power, who will complain about it when they're not in
00:28:11.440
power. And then as, you know, as soon as it becomes a weapon for them, something they
00:28:16.200
can use now, it's just routine. It's all fine. It's all okay.
00:28:25.220
So what's happening to our nation? And does the bill of rights mean anything anymore? Wisconsin,
00:28:35.580
the Supreme court yesterday just said, all of these health things are, they are unenforceable
00:28:40.300
and go against the constitution and lead us to tyranny. Well, there is a, a port of Seattle
00:28:46.800
police officer. His name is Greg Anderson. I saw a video that he did that was on YouTube. It went
00:28:55.140
viral and he's very calm, rational. He's not accusing anybody. He's just saying, Hey, I I'm
00:29:01.560
seeing these reports from all over the country where people are being arrested for, uh, you know,
00:29:06.160
hair given haircuts. And I just urge police officers to know that, uh, this isn't the, the,
00:29:13.840
that's unconstitutional and we have to abide by the constitution. He was very reasoned. And I didn't
00:29:20.000
think it said anything wrong at all. Well, he had permission from, uh, his higher ups to make the
00:29:28.340
video and everything was fine until it went viral. And then somebody got pissed off about it. And now
00:29:32.560
he may, he may be terminated for it. He's been put on leave, uh, and they're deciding what to do
00:29:39.840
about it. Greg Anderson, who has rejected a lot of, uh, interviews has graciously accepted, uh, this
00:29:46.840
interview and, uh, is speaking out about it. Hi, Greg, how are you? Morning, Glenn. I'm doing well.
00:29:53.540
Thank you. Uh, thank you for, I mean, you know, just at the time, I don't think there's any common
00:29:58.160
sense left in the Pacific Northwest. Then I see your video. Uh, so thank you for that. Um, first of all,
00:30:04.380
did you have permission and was everybody cool for you to speak on your own, uh, to do this video?
00:30:12.080
No. And that was the first point that I was going to clarify listening to your introduction. I wouldn't
00:30:17.560
say that I had permission from the department to do the video. I did the video a hundred percent on
00:30:23.220
my own accord for reasons that we'll get into, but, uh, I didn't, I initially didn't get any pushback
00:30:29.060
from the department. That's what, that's what I brought up the following day. Okay. So when you say
00:30:35.960
you did it for reasons of your own, what, what, what were those reasons? Well, I can tell you of,
00:30:41.260
you know, being a military vet and now being in law enforcement, I have friends in law enforcement
00:30:45.880
all over the country. And speaking to everybody that is in my profession, I can assure you that
00:30:53.280
99.9% of officers feel the exact same way I do. You know, all the stuff we're seeing going on,
00:30:59.640
nobody can believe it. And everybody I talked to says, I would never arrest someone for going into
00:31:04.300
a park and I would never arrest a surfer. And I would never arrest a lady for cutting somebody's
00:31:09.340
hair. This is absolutely, this is asinine yet. We keep seeing it every single day more and more.
00:31:15.580
And it really started to bother me for several reasons. I mean, the first and foremost reason
00:31:20.000
is we're trampling up people's constitutional rights and we don't have the authority
00:31:24.860
to do those things to people, regardless of what elected officials say. And the, the other aspect of
00:31:32.780
this that's really troubling to me is maintaining a good relationship with the public is something
00:31:38.260
that's been a struggle for law enforcement for a long time. And in a short amount of time,
00:31:43.000
I saw that relationship greatly strained and the gap, the trust between law enforcement and the
00:31:48.820
public, that gap is growing exponentially. And I felt like I needed to say something in an attempt
00:31:54.940
to slow that down. And, uh, I mean, I think the proof is in the pudding. It resonated with so many
00:32:00.020
people. So you say that, um, you, you know, you didn't, you don't want to do this. And most of the
00:32:07.460
officers, you know, don't want to do this, but do they end up doing it anyway? I feel, I mean,
00:32:13.680
and like I said, my video, I haven't seen it firsthand at my department. I, the port of Seattle
00:32:18.460
has been a really good department when it comes to any type of enforcement, but I believe in my heart
00:32:24.880
that officers don't want to be doing these things, but they're put in a place where they're higher up
00:32:29.620
ask them to. And now they're stuck between, okay, am I going to be looking at disciplinary actions or
00:32:34.600
losing my job where I lose my livelihood and the ability to feed my family? Or do I have to just,
00:32:39.800
you know, kind of bend the rules a little bit this one time. And I feel like a lot of officers are
00:32:46.200
getting stuck in that place. And they, a lot of people don't have the courage to just draw the line
00:32:52.140
in the sand and say, no, I have an oath to the citizens of this country and I'm not going to do
00:32:56.860
that. I can't believe Greg, that we're actually talking about this. This is something that war
00:33:03.220
gamed in my head a million times the last 20 years on whether or not, you know, we'd have to rely on
00:33:09.580
the sheriffs or the police would turn and, uh, you know, and, and it's always been a crazy thought
00:33:15.320
and thank God it's not to the level of, of, you know, why I was thinking about these things, but
00:33:19.580
this is really an important thing. And doesn't it seem crazy that we're here?
00:33:26.240
Well, yeah, it's, it's unbelievable. And, you know, and I touched on that on, on my video is that
00:33:31.860
our power is nothing more than a perception. We have a little piece of pin on our, on our chest
00:33:38.760
that reflects authority, but once the American people have enough, it's a numbers game. It could
00:33:45.940
be stripped from us in one minute. And that's a really scary thought of having citizen against
00:33:51.400
officer on the streets. And I know some people think that that's just, you know, like a conspiracy
00:33:56.380
theory or that's you're out of thinking out of left field, but I can tell you as someone that's
00:34:01.240
been deployed to a lot of third world countries that are torn apart by war, people, when people
00:34:08.740
get in places where they have, they, out of desperation, they start to do really nasty things
00:34:14.100
to each other. And if people think that that's an impossibility in America, I don't think they're
00:34:21.480
So what was your message? Because now you have, you have two mortgages, you have kids,
00:34:27.160
you can't afford to lose your job. That sends a message to a lot of people. Well, I'm not going to do
00:34:33.080
Well, the reason that I'm taking such a hard stance on that is because in the video, I implored
00:34:41.780
officers to stand up for what's right, regardless of what it costs you, regardless of what it costs
00:34:48.100
you, you have to put right over your own personal comfort. And I think the reason that I'm trying to
00:34:54.220
push that message out there is because if every officer stood up for what they believed, it'd be a
00:34:58.640
non-issue. And the people in these political positions that are using us like, like their,
00:35:04.560
their foot soldiers, they would lose all the power. And so that is why I think it's important to tell
00:35:09.840
people, no matter what is on the line, you stand up for what's right. And you stand up for the
00:35:15.720
constitution. And that's why I had to take such a hard line on this. Well, my department said, Hey,
00:35:21.480
it's time to pull the video down. It's getting too big. I said, my whole message is about standing
00:35:26.200
behind what you believe. I can't put a message out to millions of people telling them to hold
00:35:32.160
strong on their convictions. And then as soon as I get a little pushback, you know, within my words
00:35:37.300
and say, yeah, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. So would you do it again?
00:35:45.040
Absolutely. You know, regardless of whether it costs me my job or not, the amount of feedback I've got
00:35:51.120
across the country from both officers and citizens about how it just opened their eyes.
00:35:56.640
It caused, it started conversations. It made people look inward. You know, I got an email and
00:36:02.020
we're literally getting thousands and thousands of emails. I can't even begin to keep up on them,
00:36:06.460
but I got one yesterday that I did read. And it was from a guy who works for NYPD. And he said,
00:36:11.580
Greg, I want to let you know, every officer in our department has watched your video.
00:36:16.060
It made a lot of people do some self-reflection. And I can assure you that your eight minute video
00:36:21.760
changed the culture in NYPD. And I mean, that is the most, it's unbelievable to think that me
00:36:28.440
sharing my ideas for eight minutes has been able to reach people across the country. But when I'm
00:36:34.180
getting all this feedback from people, I have to believe that I did the right thing.
00:36:39.500
Well, I think you did. And I appreciate it, Greg. I think that you were very, very brave
00:36:45.900
and there was nothing that you said that our founders wouldn't have approved of. And it is
00:36:54.820
incumbent about all of us. You said something, I can't remember what it was, but you made me think
00:37:01.280
of the Germans back in World War II that said, I'm just following orders. And you said, we don't have
00:37:07.340
that here. We don't, we don't. That's not what we do. Do you remember what you said?
00:37:12.280
Well, no. Yeah. Because I have a friend who was in the Ranger regiment with me. He's a special
00:37:17.480
operations veteran and he's been stopped two times asking for papers, proving he's essential.
00:37:23.580
And I said that that's, that's the Gestapo straight out of Nazi Germany. You don't get to stop people
00:37:29.460
and see what they're doing or what their credentials are. As a law enforcement officer,
00:37:34.100
I can stop someone. If I observed them committing a crime, it's really simple. You don't get to just
00:37:41.460
randomly target people or go after certain groups because we're told to do that. I think that's a
00:37:48.000
slippery slope. You know, today this is essential, but, but what, what might a governor order tomorrow?
00:37:54.740
You know, that's why laws have to go through a long legislative process to become law.
00:37:59.580
And it's not just on a whim of one person, because before you know it, that becomes tyranny.
00:38:06.880
Greg, may your voice be heard all over the country by police officers and may they begin to form their
00:38:13.880
own words and their own spine to stand up and say exactly the same thing. You didn't do it in a time
00:38:19.500
of crisis and you didn't do it, uh, you know, uh, because you were all upset or anything. You spoke
00:38:27.100
calmly and rationally and, uh, you've made a big impact and I hope to see more police officers
00:38:32.860
doing the same. Thank you so much, Greg. I appreciate it. God bless. Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it as well.