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00:00:00.000 A really good program today where we have tried to look at all sides and try to give you a way

00:00:07.200 to understand the news. There's a couple of them. One with Senator Ron Johnson. He he went after

00:00:14.560 the political mess that caused Waukesha. Then he also teamed with his other senator from his state

00:00:24.540 who is a Democrat and they called for peace. Well Jason Whitlock among many others hammered

00:00:32.560 him for it. He's on and I think you're going to feel really good about the conclusion of all of

00:00:39.460 this. Also big day for abortion. Yeah Tate Reeves the governor of Mississippi joins us to talk about

00:00:45.360 the case. It's of course a Mississippi law that's going in front of the Supreme Court starting today.

00:00:49.880 We talk about that. We're going to follow up on that conversation on Studios America tonight.

00:00:53.700 Glenn and myself talking about political ramifications. What happens with chaos in

00:00:58.720 the streets and all of the unrest if Roe versus Wade is overturned. There's a lot to think about

00:01:04.580 on this one. We'll go into that on Studios America and right after that a brand new Glenn TV. Yeah

00:01:09.060 Glenn TV tonight really gets to the five steps of revolution that the left has been working on for

00:01:17.060 a long time and the role of the media who has now doubled down. They are a clear and present danger

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00:01:48.060 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:52.420 The first leading cause of death in America is heart disease.

00:02:05.520 Kills 659,041 people every year in the United States. The third is cancer killing 599,601.

00:02:18.600 What is the second leading cause of death? You're not going to be able to find this if you look it up

00:02:25.240 because apparently we don't categorize abortion as deaths. But if we recognized abortions as the death

00:02:37.900 of a human being, a baby, it would be the second leading cause of death in the U.S.

00:02:45.020 One in four, 24% of women will have an abortion by the age of 45. 0.99

00:02:53.620 Over 60 million babies have been killed since Roe versus Wade.

00:02:58.620 Today, in the Supreme Court, they begin hearing the arguments in Dobbs versus Jackson.

00:03:12.220 That's Jackson's women's health organization. Lynn Fitch, who is leading the state's argument, 0.91

00:03:20.100 said, with this brief, we're simply asking the court to affirm the right of the people

00:03:24.720 to protect their legitimate interest and to provide clarity on how they may do so.

00:03:31.160 So you have Thomas Dobbs. He's an MD. He's the Mississippi State Health Officer and petitioner

00:03:39.500 to the U.S. Supreme Court. Jackson Women's Health Organization, the only abortion clinic in the state

00:03:48.540 of Mississippi, and the first female attorney general in Mississippi, Lynn Fitch.

00:03:57.140 She's representing the state of Mississippi. The oral arguments begin today. We're expecting

00:04:06.260 the court to tell us whether they're going to return this to the state or they're going to let

00:04:16.820 Roe versus Wade stand as is. Probably sometime this summer, right in the middle of the midterm

00:04:24.960 elections. Going to be interesting. There's also a big middle ground there where they could come up

00:04:30.860 with something in between those two points where perhaps they allow states to regulate it more,

00:04:36.880 but not all the way to the overturn of Roe versus Wade. Correct. Roe versus Wade is all about,

00:04:43.500 and so is this. It's all about viability. Roe versus Wade doesn't really define viability,

00:04:52.580 and viability is different. At Roe versus Wade, it was 28 weeks. Now we're at 20 weeks.

00:05:00.520 So where is that line now? It doesn't define it. Never made any sense. Never made. Obviously,

00:05:07.560 right? I mean, if something can change with technology, then how can that be a constitutional

00:05:12.420 right? Right? Like it's such a bizarre construction. And obviously the constitution does not allow or

00:05:21.100 provide this sort of quote unquote right inside. So this is what the state of Mississippi is saying.

00:05:27.580 Roe and Casey shackle states to a view of the facts that are decades out of date. It's time for the

00:05:35.820 court to set it right and return the political debate to the political branches of government.

00:05:40.360 So they want the court to clarify whether abortion is actually constitutionally protected.

00:05:48.440 Obviously, they're saying it's not constitutionally protected. You don't have a right to kill a baby.

00:05:56.820 Nothing in text, structure, history, or tradition makes abortion a fundamental right or denies state

00:06:03.140 the power to restrict it. That power is reserved to the states. If you if you killed a child in utero

00:06:12.280 after what was called the quickening, you could be held for murder in, you know, early America and

00:06:21.340 before that in Britain and everything else in England. Once you knew that it was a baby and the

00:06:27.440 baby was moving, you would be charged with murder if you did anything to kill it. And coincidentally,

00:06:32.860 or maybe not so coincidentally, it's about 15 weeks. Right? Right. So that's the Mississippi law

00:06:38.240 is 15 weeks. So the state of Mississippi is arguing the decisions about abortion are policy matters

00:06:45.200 that should be decided by the people and not locked behind the doors of an unelected judiciary.

00:06:50.840 She argues that the state has a legitimate interest in protecting the lives of the unborn,

00:06:57.540 the health of women and the integrity of the metal medical profession. So she they're not asking for 0.98

00:07:05.860 an overturn when they say this is going to overturn Roe versus Wade. No, it won't. It won't in California.

00:07:12.440 It won't in New York. It will overturn Roe versus Wade. In theory, it could. However, the states can just do it 0.91

00:07:20.100 on their own. Yeah. So it's like an abortion. It's not going to overturn abortion. And let me ask you

00:07:27.320 this. The Democrats are now saying that this is a point of revolution for them, that the Democrats

00:07:37.680 will fight an open revolution if this happens. Now, I don't know why that isn't being investigated by

00:07:47.860 the FBI. Yeah. But I could say the same thing would be true on the right if the federal government said

00:07:59.000 we are going to go house to house collecting all of the guns. There would be a revolution in this

00:08:05.560 country from the right. Correct. For I mean, if they were going door to door. Yeah. I mean,

00:08:11.140 I can't imagine that I can't. Right. And but I can't imagine that the people on the right would say

00:08:16.720 it's revolution if the state if the Supreme Court said states can do whatever they want.

00:08:24.700 You can have guns, not have guns. The states can do whatever they want. It still would be wrong.

00:08:31.660 But people in Texas would say, move the hell down here. Get we've been telling you for a while to

00:08:36.640 get out of New York and get out of California. Move to a free place. That's what would happen.

00:08:44.280 And I don't believe that a revolution would actually happen if it was left to the states

00:08:50.880 and the federal government back off, back off. Now, I could be wrong on that. But this is something

00:08:59.980 that they are saying if it's left even to the states, because, again, they're misrepresenting this.

00:09:06.640 The media is lying to you again. The left is lying to you again. This is not an end to all

00:09:16.460 abortion. It is saying, let the voters of each state decide. That's not good enough.

00:09:26.020 Now, in 1972, things were a little different. Things have changed. We can literally watch babies

00:09:33.900 grow in the womb now. We have found out that they do feel pain thanks to medical advancements.

00:09:39.960 We didn't know that when Roe versus Wade was happening.

00:09:43.720 I mean, come on.

00:09:46.000 We didn't. We weren't able to prove it.

00:09:48.760 Right. Yes. That's a better way. Yes. We weren't able to prove it.

00:09:51.620 When it was enacted, the idea also of a working mother was still seen as far-fetched.

00:09:57.680 The core argument back then, when it was first debated in the Supreme Court, is that abortion

00:10:03.360 was necessary for women to achieve success. 1.00

00:10:06.440 Now, this, you know, this idea predicates off of a sneaky misogynist argument peddled by feminists 1.00

00:10:18.080 that argues if women want to be successful, they need to overcome their womanhood and be 1.00

00:10:24.080 more like men. That's ridiculous. 1.00

00:10:25.880 The argument that abortion is necessary for women's success is a quintessential outdated 0.98

00:10:33.700 argument. It assumes that, A, motherhood in and of itself is not success.

00:10:40.700 B, mothers are unable to contribute in society in meaningful ways. 1.00

00:10:45.660 Three, that women without children contribute more to society. 1.00

00:10:50.760 And this is usually justified by discussions of how mothers earn less in the workforce. 0.66

00:10:55.880 Which reduces success to only financial success.

00:11:00.080 This has changed.

00:11:03.580 We don't have the same country that we had in 1973.

00:11:09.540 And I know the left in the media would like to say, I know we don't.

00:11:13.460 We have one that's more like 1956.

00:11:17.080 But we don't. We don't.

00:11:19.940 Now, the counter arguments to this case is, and I love this one, it's Supreme Court precedent.

00:11:28.540 It's settled law.

00:11:31.040 Oh, OK.

00:11:33.180 All right.

00:11:34.200 In fact, the Center for Reproductive Rights, the CEO, said the Supreme Court just agreed to

00:11:39.340 review an abortion ban that unquestionably violates nearly 50 years of Supreme Court precedent.

00:11:44.760 Precedent precedent doesn't mean that it's right.

00:11:50.300 And you'd know that if you knew Plessy versus Ferguson.

00:11:56.380 Plessy versus Ferguson is the separate but equal Supreme Court precedent from 1896 until 1954.

00:12:06.740 That was 58 years.

00:12:10.420 So just because the court said it once doesn't make it right.

00:12:15.880 And things change.

00:12:21.960 So.

00:12:23.940 What's going to happen?

00:12:25.100 Well, the Dobbs case actually has a real shot of returning abortion decision making power to the states.

00:12:33.320 We know more about the development of babies.

00:12:35.540 We have disproved that women need to abort children to have any kind of success. 0.97

00:12:39.640 And there has never, ever, ever been and still isn't a sound constitutional argument to back up Roe versus Wade or Casey.

00:12:47.720 In asking for a clarification, Dobbs will push the Supreme Court to review the constitutionality of how the judiciary is protecting abortion.

00:13:01.200 A push pro-choice advocates are very afraid of because they know, as far as the Constitution goes, they don't have a leg to stand on.

00:13:12.360 That's what this is all going to decide.

00:13:17.720 We have Senator Ron Johnson, the U.S. Senator, Republican from Wisconsin.

00:13:39.380 We want to talk to him about the Waukesha Christmas massacre.

00:13:42.920 Senator, I, you know, it's bothered me so much that the White House keeps saying our hearts are with the people of Waukesha.

00:13:53.820 Although our thoughts and prayers are not good enough for them most of the time.

00:13:58.000 But the White House is correct.

00:14:02.100 And so are we.

00:14:03.540 Our hearts and our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Waukesha.

00:14:08.060 Horrible, horrible tragedy.

00:14:09.680 Well, I appreciate that.

00:14:12.600 What I can report from Waukesha, the healing has begun.

00:14:17.580 It began literally the moment of the tragedy, as you saw the citizens of Waukesha respond with just, you know, compassion, integrity.

00:14:28.900 As they were dealing with the victims, just the, again, I'm just, I'm haunted.

00:14:33.680 And I wasn't there, I'm haunted by the thought of little children on the curb waiting to see Santa Claus and the dancing grannies instead of seeing the slaughter. 0.99

00:14:43.640 So it's going to take an awful lot of time to heal.

00:14:45.600 But the very next night, they held an interfaith prayer vigil.

00:14:49.700 I think it's probably over a thousand people that showed up.

00:14:51.920 I was able to attend and just talk to members of the community, the first responders.

00:14:57.800 I mean, it was, I'll never forget it.

00:15:01.140 Sorrowful and yet hopeful, I guess.

00:15:03.220 Because, you know, so often, Glenn, you know this, is in the midst of one of these horrific events that caused by the worst in humanity, the best of humanity is often revealed.

00:15:15.680 And I think we witnessed that, again, right away in Waukesha and as the city continues to heal, I think we'll continue to see that.

00:15:24.420 So they'll recover.

00:15:25.720 But I know they truly appreciate the thoughts and prayers.

00:15:28.460 I know they're appreciating the financial support, the Community Foundation.

00:15:31.840 I think they've been, I don't want to say overwhelmed, but I think they're incredibly appreciative of all the thoughts and prayers and all the financial assistance coming in to help people that are grievously injured.

00:15:44.760 That we still have three children in critical condition, a number of the other adults in critical condition as well.

00:15:51.040 So this is going to be a long, long road to recovery.

00:15:54.500 All right.

00:15:54.720 Let me, let me take you through a timeline here.

00:15:58.040 You first slam Democratic officials following the Christmas parade over the weekend.

00:16:04.100 You said when you look the other way, when you almost encourage lawlessness, I would drop the word almost, just like, let's face it.

00:16:11.760 You have political figures doing during the summer riots of 2020, encouraging people to donate to the bail fund so you can bail these people out.

00:16:21.140 When you encourage lawlessness, you're going to get more of it.

00:16:25.800 It becomes more and more violent.

00:16:27.860 It starts spilling over from crime-ridden, generally Democratic-governed cities into surrounding areas.

00:16:33.120 Because that's probably what we witnessed here in Waukesha.

00:16:37.300 You started to get all kinds of heat from the left on that.

00:16:41.800 Do you still stand by those words?

00:16:44.840 Yes.

00:16:45.360 I'm outraged by what happened because it never should have happened, Glenn.

00:16:50.160 It never should have happened.

00:16:51.460 This, the accused, now I'll call him the accused.

00:16:54.480 He never should have been out on the street.

00:16:58.420 But it's the catch and release.

00:17:00.060 Not only at the southern border, but we have catch and release within our criminal justice system.

00:17:03.500 And you've got the left pushing either low bail or no bail.

00:17:07.160 And again, you had the current vice president after the Minneapolis riots, encouraging people to donate to a bail fund, to bail the rioters out.

00:17:15.380 You have the press looking the other way as during the 570-plus riots during the summer.

00:17:22.580 Instead, all the focus is on January 6th, as much as I condemn that.

00:17:26.360 Now, I'm also condemning the violence that the 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured during those summer riots, the couple dozen people killed during those, the $2 billion of the profit damage.

00:17:36.980 We're all supposed to look away from that.

00:17:38.460 But we focus instead on, you know, when there may be a perpetrator that comes more from the right side of the political spectrum.

00:17:47.620 So, no, I'm outraged by all of this.

00:17:49.880 But I am outraged for the citizens, for the community of Waukesha that are suffering when they shouldn't have had to.

00:17:58.900 This never should have happened.

00:18:00.640 And we've got to call it out.

00:18:01.620 You know, part of the healing process, part of the due process is to examine why is this guy in the street?

00:18:07.220 Why was he able to commit this evil, heinous act?

00:18:12.440 Why?

00:18:13.200 And then correct it.

00:18:14.820 So, that's going to be part of the process.

00:18:18.100 So, go ahead.

00:18:19.640 So, help me out, because just a few days later, you come out with a statement with Tammy Baldwin, who is your cohort there in Congress.

00:18:31.440 She is the Democrat senator from Wisconsin.

00:18:34.960 And you write this.

00:18:36.100 It has come to our attention that outside individuals or groups may attempt to exploit the tragedy that occurred last Sunday in Waukesha for their own political purposes.

00:18:43.800 As the U.S. senators representing Wisconsin, one from each political party, we are asking everyone to consider such action to cease and desist.

00:18:51.660 We have full confidence in the local officials who responded with extraordinary professionalism, competence, integrity, and compassion.

00:18:58.420 They have many difficult duties to perform in the coming days, weeks, and months.

00:19:01.520 And they should be afforded the respect and support they deserve to undertake their responsibilities without outside interference.

00:19:08.560 You go on for a couple of more paragraphs, but it's basically the same thing.

00:19:12.040 What's angering some people on both sides is you just made it political by saying what you just said, and now you're saying don't make it political.

00:19:25.900 Well, how is this not a political issue?

00:19:29.140 So I guess you have to read carefully what I said.

00:19:32.020 I was trying to head off the past action that could result in potential violence again in Waukesha.

00:19:38.580 So, you know, I had recently from the people I'd spoken to on Monday, I get a call that Friday that they are concerned that groups from both sides were going to descend on Waukesha to protest or whatever.

00:19:52.960 And they were concerned of a clash and maybe more violence.

00:19:56.760 And so all I was reacting to, then they asked me, is it, can I do anything to help?

00:20:00.220 I said, well, I could issue a statement.

00:20:01.720 I could try and get Senator Baldwin on a bipartisan basis.

00:20:05.020 Just ask people, please don't do that.

00:20:06.520 Now, we weren't specific.

00:20:08.240 I didn't want to give anybody ideas.

00:20:10.180 This was just something that may have been planning.

00:20:11.880 We were just trying to head something off in the past.

00:20:13.740 But I was talking about action.

00:20:15.820 I was talking about potential violence.

00:20:17.680 This is obviously a political situation.

00:20:20.120 And I, by the way, I share.

00:20:22.240 So, yeah, I'm getting a lot of criticism from the right.

00:20:24.580 I basically agree with them 99% in terms of what they're talking about.

00:20:28.360 Because I am outraged by the fact that the left wouldn't stop talking about, for example, Charlottesville.

00:20:34.980 They won't stop talking about January 6th.

00:20:37.720 But you don't hear much about the assault on the Republican members of Congress on the baseball field.

00:20:45.380 I don't think Waukesha is really much on anybody's front page other than in right-wing media now.

00:20:52.060 So, trust me, both of us are recipients of grossly unfair coverage by the left, the left-wing media, the distortions, the lies, the false narratives.

00:21:03.080 So, no, I'm not happy with it at all.

00:21:04.580 I think I blame the press for so much of our divisiveness in this country.

00:21:09.340 They exacerbate it.

00:21:10.520 They're the ones that light the fuse.

00:21:12.040 So, I completely agree with even people criticizing me.

00:21:15.720 I understand why they're criticizing me.

00:21:17.460 And I agree with them.

00:21:18.640 But, again, they're just getting it wrong that I was inferring that don't make this political.

00:21:22.900 It is political.

00:21:24.560 This occurred because of political decisions on no and low bail that need to be corrected, but they need to be called out.

00:21:34.520 So, again, I think my statement was misconstrued.

00:21:37.740 Again, they didn't understand the back story.

00:21:39.240 They didn't understand I was responding to requests to help to try and head something off of the pass.

00:21:44.760 We didn't want to see more violence.

00:21:46.340 Again, I'm talking to people who had to help pick up dead bodies off the pavement.

00:21:52.420 They had enough to deal with.

00:21:54.420 They didn't need to deal with additional protesters and people taking advantage of the situation, physical presence, potentially resulting in violence.

00:22:03.740 Coming in from other parts of the country, too.

00:22:08.420 Usually, these protesters are bussed in.

00:22:11.840 So, what do we do about this?

00:22:16.620 What can be done?

00:22:17.540 I mean, the media is truly, truly responsible.

00:22:22.920 The best example, counter example of this is what happened in Charlottesville.

00:22:29.480 That story, everybody knows.

00:22:31.480 Donald Trump was the took the brunt of that one because basically he said kind of the same thing.

00:22:38.780 He was saying there's good people on both sides.

00:22:41.200 I condemn those who do the violent, but let's not let's not, you know, bunch everybody into this together.

00:22:49.460 He was he was saying, let's look at this rationally.

00:22:53.540 The press wouldn't do it.

00:22:55.280 You're saying just give me just we have to talk about politics, but let's be rational on the ground.

00:23:02.940 Let's not do anything that calls BLM in or, you know, any white supremacist group in.

00:23:10.240 Correct.

00:23:11.200 Yeah, right.

00:23:11.920 I just didn't want to see physical physical presence that could result in violence.

00:23:17.180 OK, but no, the political discussion has to take care or take place.

00:23:22.100 And there's no doubt about it.

00:23:24.060 The media, the bulk of the mainstream media, the social media, they are far left.

00:23:29.440 Unfortunately, we still have freedom of the press.

00:23:31.040 So we've got you.

00:23:32.960 We've got the blaze.

00:23:34.040 We've got other conservative outlets.

00:23:35.800 So we have freedom of the press, but we are by and large overwhelmed.

00:23:39.620 By the left press in the mainstream media.

00:23:43.280 It's a huge disadvantage we have.

00:23:45.480 So we've got to work harder.

00:23:46.800 We've got to work smarter.

00:23:48.080 We do need to remain unified as much as possible.

00:23:51.700 I think that would also be helpful.

00:23:53.060 Senator Ron Johnson, thank you.

00:23:59.320 You know, it is becoming increasingly difficult to be able to hold people together when we are absolutists.

00:24:10.940 You are either absolutely my enemy or you're absolutely my friend.

00:24:17.180 And one one issue or one disagreement on approach changes everything.

00:24:26.260 And that that that won't work.

00:24:28.520 That just won't work.

00:24:29.980 We have to be able to have some reason if we're going to be able to stick together.

00:24:37.680 No, it's a losing strategy.

00:24:41.480 It's just a losing strategy.

00:24:42.980 You need to you know, we need to cling to our first principles.

00:24:46.560 We need to understand what we agree on.

00:24:48.760 And, you know, from the right, we all agree on.

00:24:51.140 I think this was Donald Trump's greatest achievement.

00:24:53.200 He assembled a coalition of people that fervently love this country.

00:24:57.120 And in addition, they recognize what made it great.

00:24:59.860 Not big government.

00:25:01.500 Individual liberty and freedom.

00:25:02.820 We are operating within a free market system that allows them to dream and aspire and build and create.

00:25:07.820 That's the coalition that we need to keep together.

00:25:10.580 And, yeah, we're going to have our differences.

00:25:12.100 You may not agree with everything everybody says or how they write something.

00:25:16.000 But we need to focus on what we are trying to accomplish.

00:25:18.980 We're trying to save this country because the left is destroying it.

00:25:24.360 So, again, you know, some people may not like the way I issued that statement on a bipartisan basis.

00:25:28.460 And I would do it again because it's the right thing to do.

00:25:31.840 There's no rioting yet in Waukesha, and that's a good thing.

00:25:36.060 Maybe I helped prevent that.

00:25:38.100 I don't know.

00:25:38.940 But it was worth doing.

00:25:40.240 It was worth trying to help.

00:25:42.120 But at the same time, we have to recognize the left is destroying this country.

00:25:47.220 They are our political opponents.

00:25:49.780 We need to focus on them.

00:25:52.080 We need to exert our energy to defeating them.

00:25:55.660 And when I say defeat, I mean sweep them from power at the national level, at the state, and at the local level, primarily at the local level.

00:26:04.580 We've allowed radical lefts to take over our school boards, which is why they're teaching critical race theory.

00:26:09.140 We took our eye off the ball, focusing everything on the federal government.

00:26:13.020 We need to focus and be as relentless as the left is in preserving our freedom as they are in taking away from us.

00:26:20.860 Thank you very much, Senator Ron Johnson.

00:26:23.560 I appreciate it.

00:26:24.760 God bless.

00:26:25.240 Thank you.

00:26:25.980 You bet.

00:26:26.440 God bless.

00:26:26.900 By the way, I believe, I'm not sure if it's up on the website yet.

00:26:30.400 Do we know if he wrote an op-ed and Jason Whitlock disagrees with him.

00:26:37.720 He's going to be on with us in about an hour.

00:26:41.040 Hopefully, Jason was listening to this and he's going to respond.

00:26:45.380 But he's already written an op-ed that was placed on the blaze.

00:26:49.900 And so the senator asked for the same opportunity and we're giving him that opportunity on the blaze.

00:26:56.360 You'll be able to find it at blaze.com.

00:26:59.120 Back in just a second.

00:27:00.300 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:27:10.760 From Mississippi, the governor, Tate Reeves, is joining us now.

00:27:16.740 Oral arguments begin today on Dobbs versus Jackson.

00:27:21.020 And he is here to tell us all about it.

00:27:23.260 Governor, how are you, sir?

00:27:25.200 Good morning, Glenn.

00:27:26.160 I'm doing great today.

00:27:27.320 I hope you are as well.

00:27:28.780 I am.

00:27:29.580 I am.

00:27:30.020 It's a good day.

00:27:30.840 I'm actually very optimistic about the chances of this case after talking to your really great attorney general,

00:27:42.140 the first woman attorney general in Mississippi's history, Lynn Fitch.

00:27:48.380 Yeah, today is a day that many of us in the pro-life movement have been waiting for for a long time.

00:27:55.780 In fact, some even longer than I have been alive.

00:27:58.800 The Roe v. Wade was decided, the decision came down in January of 1973.

00:28:05.300 And so for almost 50 years, Roe has been the precedent that was set.

00:28:11.060 But many of us, and I presume most of your listeners, just really believe that it was decided wrongly back in 1973.

00:28:19.320 And then you also have the Casey case that occurred in 1992, which really helped establish the viability provision.

00:28:29.880 And we believe that was wrongly decided as well.

00:28:32.800 If you read the Constitution, and I've read it, there is no guaranteed right to an abortion in the United States Constitution.

00:28:41.420 In fact, not only is there not a guaranteed right, there's also nothing in the U.S. Constitution that prevents states like Mississippi and others from placing reasonable limits on those abortions.

00:28:55.020 And the case that's before the court today certainly places reasonable limits.

00:28:59.740 So that's the thing, reasonable limits.

00:29:02.700 We are so far beyond reason.

00:29:05.020 The two countries that have zero laws on the books to stop people from abortion, you can abort a baby while giving birth, it's China and North Korea. 0.88

00:29:19.400 And we are right there at that doorstep.

00:29:23.560 We are way out of line.

00:29:25.860 And this isn't an overturning of all abortion.

00:29:29.120 I mean, you were the Speaker of the Mississippi Senate, if I'm not mistaken, and you brought the heartbeat bill and got that passed.

00:29:37.880 So this is not – well, take me through that from the beginning and how we got here.

00:29:43.400 Yeah, no question.

00:29:44.580 And I think your point is so important because those in the abortion-on-demand crowd try to convince the American public that the abortion laws in the U.S. are mainstream across the world.

00:30:02.300 And they're just simply not.

00:30:03.420 As you correctly pointed out, the laws in California and New York with respect to abortions are more similar to China and North Korea than they are any other country around the world.

00:30:16.160 In fact, there are 42 countries in Europe, Glenn, that allow for elective abortions.

00:30:23.980 If this Mississippi law is upheld, then there will still be 39 countries in Europe that have more restrictive abortion laws than Mississippi, which I think is one of, if not the most conservative states in the United States.

00:30:42.000 And so this law just gets our state to a point where we are more in line with mainstream countries around the world.

00:30:52.780 My goal ultimately would be I'd love to see the court overthrow Roe v. Wade because it was wrongly ruled.

00:31:01.540 But they don't have to do that to allow this ban to go into effect, and that would ultimately save lives.

00:31:09.260 And that's what we've been trying to do for many years is find ways in which to pass restrictions that save babies' lives.

00:31:20.080 So you are, but I want to make sure that people understand that if this goes, you're not arguing to ban all abortions in America.

00:31:31.440 You're saying leave it to the states to decide, get it out of the court system, leave it to the people to decide this.

00:31:39.860 So California would probably end up doing more abortions. 1.00

00:31:44.360 New York would end up doing more abortions. 1.00

00:31:46.280 But you would do far less, if any.

00:31:50.180 Well, we believe that that's what the United States Constitution contemplates is it is the 50 labs of democracy in the states that should be making these decisions.

00:32:04.740 There's no guaranteed constitutional right to an abortion in the U.S. Constitution. 0.95

00:32:11.580 And our founding fathers were very, very tactical and very intelligent in saying that anything that the Constitution doesn't give explicit authority to the feds on should be decided in the individual states.

00:32:28.240 And so, no, we're not we're not asking the court to outlaw abortions.

00:32:34.500 We're just simply asking the court to recognize that it's the individual states that should have the opportunity to set their policies based upon the will of the people in those individual states.

00:32:46.980 So the left loves to scream, my body, my choice, not when it comes to vaccines.

00:32:52.920 What is the difference here between these two?

00:32:57.240 Why can't why do why did why is it my body, my choice in one regard and not with vaccines?

00:33:03.200 And that's a that's a great question.

00:33:05.560 It's a fair question.

00:33:06.800 Here's what we've learned with respect to the vaccine.

00:33:09.240 Even Dr. Fauci admitted on Sunday that the vaccines are pretty effective, are very effective at keeping you from becoming hospitalized and from having a severe case.

00:33:24.700 However, what we have learned as more and more data comes out is there's there is certainly individuals that are vaccinated that are contracting the virus.

00:33:35.020 And there are those who are vaccinated that are spreading the virus.

00:33:38.520 And so the vaccine, in my opinion, is exceptionally helpful in reducing the severity of your case.

00:33:46.420 But that gives you as an individual the ability to make your own decisions as to what's best for you and your family.

00:33:53.920 Conversely, with respect to abortions, and this is where the left just completely gets it wrong.

00:34:00.900 They want to scream, my body, my choice, and completely ignore the fact that there is an additional unborn child in that womb that they are aborting and ultimately killing.

00:34:13.900 And so that is where the distinction lies is.

00:34:17.540 And abortion is, in my view, by definition, the killing of an innocent unborn child.

00:34:23.620 And that's when it's no longer just about your body.

00:34:26.700 It's about the body of that unborn child.

00:34:29.060 And it's why, Glenn, it's so important that people like me and people like Attorney General Fitch and other like-minded pro-life people around America stand up for that unborn child because they don't have the ability to stand up for themselves.

00:34:43.140 You know, it's interesting.

00:34:44.160 The founders really addressed this.

00:34:47.000 I was shocked when I found this out.

00:34:48.320 We have these debates in our Mercury Historic Vaults.

00:34:53.080 The founders talked about abortion, but they didn't do it on a federal level.

00:34:58.460 They did it on a local level.

00:35:01.200 And the argument was, when you know it's a child, the quickening is what they called it.

00:35:08.380 When you know the baby has moved and you know it's a child, you will then be causing murder. 0.97

00:35:14.720 But if you don't know that, and the quickening hasn't happened and something happens, then you're okay.

00:35:22.940 But that was, again, for a local and state issue, not a constitutional issue.

00:35:29.120 And they were very well aware of it back then.

00:35:31.580 Well, there's no doubt.

00:35:34.800 And the important point here is, here's another example of where the left really chooses to ignore the facts.

00:35:47.060 They love to scream about following the science.

00:35:51.360 But when it comes to abortion policies, they completely ignore the science.

00:35:56.800 And the fact is, since Casey was decided in 1992, the science has changed.

00:36:03.980 Since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973, the science has certainly changed.

00:36:09.980 And the reason it has changed, when Roe was decided, we did not have sonograms.

00:36:15.180 When Roe was decided, we did not have ultrasounds.

00:36:17.980 And every single time the technology gets better, the more the science comes down on the side of protecting unborn children.

00:36:27.920 Here's what we know about a child at 15 weeks.

00:36:31.620 We know that that child has a heartbeat.

00:36:35.100 We know that that child is pumping multiple quarts of blood each day.

00:36:40.120 We know that the baby is developing its lungs.

00:36:42.840 We know that the baby can move.

00:36:44.960 We know that the baby can take its fingers and hand and open and close it.

00:36:50.480 And most importantly, perhaps, Glenn, we know that that baby can feel pain.

00:36:55.300 And because of that, we believe that we have an obligation to protect that unborn child.

00:37:05.320 How do you think the Supreme Court is going to rule on this case?

00:37:07.720 Because the left is saying, oh, this is practically a complete religious zealot rightist court.

00:37:17.520 No, it's not.

00:37:18.880 I mean, I don't count on all.

00:37:20.620 I'm not necessarily counting on John Roberts, you know, actually voting for this.

00:37:28.240 What do you think?

00:37:29.100 What are the odds, do you think?

00:37:30.880 Well, I'm cautiously optimistic.

00:37:35.580 I'm cautiously optimistic that the justices on the Supreme Court are going to stay away from any political considerations because that's not the role of the court.

00:37:48.880 That is the role of the legislative branch of government.

00:37:51.220 And that's the role of the executive branch of government is to recognize public opinion and make decisions accordingly.

00:37:57.260 But the judicial branch's job is to read and interpret the Constitution.

00:38:07.300 And I think a simple reading of the U.S. Constitution shows you that there is no guaranteed right to an abortion in that document.

00:38:16.520 And there is nothing in that document that prevents the states from passing their own laws.

00:38:22.000 In fact, that is really one of the fundamental principles that this country was founded upon is that anything that is not specifically delineated for the role of the federal government is to be handled by the states.

00:38:37.680 And so I'm optimistic for that reason.

00:38:41.900 And I know that there have been literally millions and millions and millions of Americans praying for our legal counsel, who is literally, as we speak, making these arguments before the court.

00:38:55.040 And I hope that that will continue in the coming days and weeks before the decision is handed down.

00:39:00.840 And we think it'll be months, obviously, before we ultimately get a decision.

00:39:04.500 Yeah, probably in probably in July.

00:39:07.260 Perfect for the midterms.

00:39:09.740 Governor, thank you for everything that you've done for life and everything the state is going through right now.

00:39:17.500 It is probably the most important thing that we can do if we don't get ourselves on the right side of history on pretty big things like this.

00:39:28.200 You know, we are going to have a tough fight on everything else.

00:39:31.800 Thank you so much, Governor.

00:39:32.760 Thank you so much for having me on, Glenn.

00:39:35.140 Have a great day.

00:39:35.800 You too.

00:39:36.300 Governor Tate Reeves from Mississippi.

00:39:39.580 You might want to say a prayer now for the legal team.

00:39:44.080 They are in the Supreme Court right now doing oral arguments.

00:39:50.640 And this could be a big one.

00:39:54.100 This could be a big one.

00:39:55.180 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 01, 2021

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