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00:00:00.000 Show's packed today. We started with Spirit Airlines. You know, what is happening? And by the way, thank you, progressives, for making people's lives better yet again. How? How exactly? They claim that Spirit Airlines not merging would be a victory for the Biden administration. And if the Biden administration's idea was, you know, to make people's life harder, congratulations. And I guess it is a victory for you.

00:00:23.920 But if you are actually looking out for the little people, Spirit Airlines going out of business is a huge problem.

00:00:30.200 But that seems to be the track record. We look at that. 0.86

00:00:33.320 Also, Harmi, Dylan was on with us today.

00:00:35.680 We have Carol Roth.

00:00:37.280 And we talked about this pattern of violence.

00:00:42.560 The assassinations are a problem.

00:00:46.040 What's happening in our political class is a problem.

00:00:48.480 And the fact that President Trump is traveling to China, one of our biggest enemies, I think might be a big problem.

00:00:57.080 I hate to say it out loud, but I don't think the president should go to China.

00:01:01.860 Maybe that's just me, but I want to lay out the facts on what's really happening with violence in our country and where is it coming from all on today's podcast.

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00:03:08.880 well uh saturday we were in uh new york at ellis island it was an amazing event amazing event um

00:03:17.340 love for you to see it we'll play some highlights you can find it uh on demand now at glennbeck.com

00:03:22.380 slash torch and make sure you see it it was it was stirring it was amazing to be there and celebrate

00:03:29.620 america's 250th um we had several people that were supposed to be there because of security

00:03:35.160 concerns uh they didn't make it one person who did make it was harmeet dylan and she's the one

00:03:40.720 i want protected most in the government because i just i absolutely love her she is our assistant

00:03:46.460 Attorney General. She is running the Civil Rights Division. She's with us now. And Harmi,

00:03:53.460 let me just start before we get into the news of the day. Well, thank you for coming and thank you

00:03:57.440 for sharing your story of being a legal immigrant in the nation. Well, thank you so much for having

00:04:04.840 me, Glenn, and for your warm introduction. It was a very moving event and the stories you told about

00:04:11.100 the president's family and your own family. We're also very moving and just demonstrate how

00:04:17.020 important our history is and respecting it and keeping it legal. And so I'm really proud to be

00:04:22.560 part of that here at the Department of Justice and generally in my law practice in life. And,

00:04:27.240 you know, I could not love this country more. So you are part of the, you're running the civil

00:04:33.640 rights division of the DOJ. And there's a couple of things that, I mean, I can't take the Jim Crow 0.93

00:04:39.460 stuff uh anymore um and the lack of people noticing how the doj was weaponized um the

00:04:47.600 doj task force report uh came out last week anti-christian bias was real systematic and uh

00:04:54.860 pervasive uh how deep what was the thing that you saw you were like oh my gosh i can't believe this

00:05:01.040 well i mean i can believe all of it because we've been compiling this stuff for a while now

00:05:07.040 And I experienced this type of anti-Christian and really anti-religious bias as a lawyer in private practice over the last several years.

00:05:15.520 Let's just give you one example.

00:05:17.520 You know, our government, not just the DOJ, but, you know, various aspects of the government viewed people seeking religious accommodations to not have to get the COVID vaccination if they were government employees as, you know, not legitimate.

00:05:32.480 They've basically internally labeled all of those accommodation requests illegitimate.

00:05:38.220 The Biden DOJ continued the Obama DOJ's efforts to go after, you know, little sisters of the poor and, you know, other Christian organizations like that.

00:05:51.600 The Bostock memo that effectively took that Bostock ruling, which I disagree with from the Supreme Court about, you know, gay rights and went way beyond that and basically made it illegitimate for any person employed by the government to have a Christian viewpoint on gay marriage and issues like that, which are very much spiritual and religious in nature.

00:06:21.600 And so there was just a complete lack of respect for the Christian and more broadly, to the point of trying to get Christians off of juries, screen them out. 0.53

00:06:34.220 To get Christians off of juries to, in the case of a companion report that we issued a few weeks ago, our Faith Act weaponization report, where disparaging remarks were made by DOJ prosecutors in my department, former prosecutors now in my department here, about a magistrate judge being a Catholic, keeping people of faith off of juries,

00:06:58.780 and going after and seeking sentences that were more than double for Christian protesters outside abortion clinics than for really domestic terrorists going after pro-life centers in Florida in, you know, one important case after the Dobbs decision.

00:07:18.980 So these disparities were marked. They were open. They were written down in emails. And, you know, thank goodness that we have a president today who is not just dedicated to changing that, but also documenting what happened so that people should feel ashamed to do this to other people of faith in our country, because our country is founded on faith and specifically on the Christian faith.

00:07:43.820 we're we're not really good at shame right now what what what are what steps are we taking

00:07:49.580 i mean my biggest fear is we lose in 2028 and all of this stuff comes back with a vengeance

00:07:56.320 what is being done to make sure this doesn't happen again anything can anything be done

00:08:02.640 well glenn it very much could happen again i mean you can count on it happening again in fact in

00:08:07.580 In fact, Hakeem Jeffries and the James Comeys and other prominent figures in the world are promising that punishment of conservatives will happen if the parties change.

00:08:20.600 Now, we don't do the opposite, but what I will tell you is that lawyers in this department who violated the rights of Americans, including Brady violations against defendants, refusing to disclose exculpatory evidence in some of these weaponized faith-related cases, they no longer work here.

00:08:37.580 year. So, yeah, sure, they could reapply in four years or three years, but their careers would have

00:08:43.660 moved on by then. And frankly, if they want to fight, I mean, we have records, but before anyone

00:08:49.280 gets terminated here, there's a record of what they did. And, you know, that'll all be a public

00:08:54.040 record. So I think that is an improvement. I mean, a lot of people have criticized me on the Hill,

00:09:01.060 and Democrats have criticized me for the fact that 75 percent of the lawyers in the Civil Rights

00:09:06.340 Division left after I became the Assistant Attorney General. That is absolutely a positive

00:09:12.080 development. For one thing, most of those lawyers were, you know, biased, and, you know, no one is

00:09:18.340 entitled to a forever job here. What we have now, and we're building back up here, is Second Amendment

00:09:23.740 lovers, is people who love liberty, Christians, Jews, people of faith, people of all faiths are

00:09:30.960 welcome here if they are willing to respect the Constitution and commit to the civil rights agenda

00:09:38.020 that's consistent with protecting all Americans, not just the favored few. And back to that

00:09:43.860 weaponization report, this DOJ put out guidance that Christians could not possibly be the victims

00:09:51.740 of religious discrimination because they're the majority. That's ridiculous. That's not what our 0.99

00:09:55.660 constitution says the roberts court for all of its you know flaws i disagree with some things

00:10:00.820 the roberts court has absolutely and all the way up to yes last week's opinion in louisiana versus

00:10:07.120 calais has steered the ship of regarding discrimination back to the center where it

00:10:12.300 belongs let me switch to the scotus ruling on gerrymandering if i hear one more say

00:10:18.700 one person say jim crow i think i'm gonna lose my mind i can't even imagine how you feel

00:10:22.480 So what is the effect of this, and are we going after the states?

00:10:30.200 I know you said you're going after enforce in every state that has radically rigged maps.

00:10:37.320 You're going to enforce this.

00:10:38.840 What is the plan?

00:10:39.860 What does it mean?

00:10:42.000 Okay, so we're formulating what the plan means.

00:10:45.440 I mean, I will tell you that the timing of this ruling is such that, you know, the closer you are to elections happening, the less leeway courts give you to make changes.

00:10:58.260 A lot of these changes have to be made at the political level, and we're seeing that happen.

00:11:02.500 And when I say I'm going to enforce the law throughout the United States, I mean, that's not committing to any particular timeline because we do have to respect some of these parameters and we do have to look at the political situation.

00:11:12.600 So where some states, mainly it's southern states.

00:11:15.440 but not exclusively, are committing to redistricting, you know, they're going to go through that

00:11:19.900 process, which is a political process, and the Supreme Court has ruled that political

00:11:24.820 gerrymandering is acceptable, and so that's going to be happening throughout the country.

00:11:30.800 You know, eventually, I think what you're going to see eventually over the next two,

00:11:34.680 four, six years is there are going to be legal actions, if not by the Department of Justice,

00:11:40.720 by by candidates, by partisan entities, just like happened in Louisiana versus Calais.

00:11:46.520 NAACP forced the hand over there. They may be regretting that now.

00:11:50.380 But instead of having one black majority district, they went for broke and went for two.

00:11:57.220 And now there may be zero because political gerrymandering means that they can redraw the lines that fit the other criteria that are mentioned in the court.

00:12:06.300 the jingles test that talks about compactness and you know communities of interest and so forth and

00:12:12.300 that isn't necessarily race in 2026 in america i i don't believe it's race we have a number of

00:12:19.340 um people being elected from both parties constituencies of all different races in

00:12:25.420 america and that's a beautiful thing in our country so we saw last week our acting attorney

00:12:32.460 general go after you know Fauci's number two I know this is not your area of expertise but we're

00:12:39.520 just days away from Fauci I mean he's already been pardoned but we can't bring up charges pretty soon

00:12:45.400 are all these I mean are we moving forward on these things Harmeet are people going to pay a

00:12:52.440 price for anything yeah look people are going to pay a price you have to understand that the wheels

00:12:58.020 of justice turn a little more slowly in the government than they might in private practice.

00:13:02.880 I certainly have been frustrated by that myself. But when I think you've seen my boss,

00:13:08.480 acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, blanket the news waves this past weekend regarding

00:13:14.000 the Comey indictment and others. And, you know, what you see in public is just a fraction of the

00:13:19.520 evidence that's out there. And so building these cases takes time. We have had turnover here.

00:13:25.280 We have had weaponized justice in the form of judges who refuse to let some of our cases go forward and, you know, and grand juries that refuse to indict.

00:13:35.540 That's been a challenge. But I'm confident that you are going to see justice.

00:13:39.340 I mean, people want it to go a lot faster than it has. That isn't my area.

00:13:43.440 And civil rights, I'm very proud to say that in a year we have accomplished a tremendous amount of justice within our areas of expertise.

00:13:51.160 But, you know, the U.S. attorney's offices I'm in touch with, my friends in different U.S. attorney's offices, they're bringing cases regarding illegal voting.

00:13:59.640 They're bringing cases regarding some of these massive fraud issues.

00:14:04.580 Yes, there are pardons out there that cover a lot of the behavior that frustrate Americans.

00:14:09.080 I think I'd love to see Fauci pay for some of the things that he did and others.

00:14:13.980 And, you know, I can't promise you any particular results, but I can tell you that everyone here in this building is extremely dedicated to the president's agenda, certainly in our leadership here, and to getting justice for Americans who were wronged in the last several years.

00:14:28.920 can you go let me go back to the um to the gerrymandering thing can you can you speak

00:14:35.300 as the person that is running the civil rights division at the doj can you speak to those people

00:14:41.100 like the people on the view that say this is just we're just silencing blacks and minorities and

00:14:48.740 um you know we're going back to the i don't even know 1950s or or whenever

00:14:53.740 um to nightmare years can you what would you say to them well first of all i'm not sure they would

00:15:00.540 listen but what i would say to them is i'm a woman who grew up in the deep south and you know i

00:15:05.660 there was the ku klux klan in my county when i was growing up in the 1970s in rural north carolina

00:15:10.960 and that was scary and guess what it isn't there anymore it is it is it is not mainstream it is

00:15:17.460 fringe. Our country has come so far. We've had a black president. We have had so many people of

00:15:27.180 power from all over. Look at Hakeem Jeffries as the minority leader. We have a diverse and

00:15:34.900 beautiful society, and we should be proud of that. We should celebrate it, and we should stop putting

00:15:39.700 our thumb on the scale. It's not fair to all Americans, and it is simply perpetuating a racist

00:15:45.480 history that we should be proud to be able to have moved past in our country. And so I think

00:15:52.780 some of these gerrymandered districts, I mean, you know, it has consequences on both sides. What it

00:15:57.480 does is it creates one very liberal district and then all the other districts become slightly more

00:16:02.200 conservative. That's generally the pattern in a red state or a southern state. And instead,

00:16:09.480 what you're going to have is more competitive districts eventually for everybody. And I think

00:16:13.920 that's actually a really good thing. I, frankly, even though, of course, I'm a Republican,

00:16:20.080 you know, I go on Capitol Hill, I testify, I speak to members of Congress sometimes,

00:16:23.440 and I despair at the sort of the difficulty one has in dislodging any of these people from their

00:16:31.280 positions. Once they get elected, it seems almost impossible to replace them. We could use more

00:16:35.380 change. We could use more fresh blood in politics. And I think all Americans should view this as an

00:16:41.080 opportunity to get some better people elected to Congress. Harmeet, thank you very much. Appreciate

00:16:46.920 it. Thanks for having me. Just want to say I wish you were our Attorney General. I'm just throwing

00:16:52.960 that out there and not asking you to comment on it. But thanks, Harmeet Dillon, our Assistant

00:16:57.480 Attorney General in charge of the Civil Rights Division.

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00:18:06.160 beck program and we really want to thank you for listening all right i want to play a couple of

00:18:11.280 things for you you know it used to be really simple if somebody tried to kill the president

00:18:16.620 you know it looked like one guy one gun you know they try you could point to it you could under

00:18:22.500 you could understand it you could explain it to your kids but i think that world is absolutely

00:18:27.560 gone. We're looking now at something really different. Because when you line up the attempts

00:18:34.720 on Donald Trump's life, and there's a new story out on our show prep today, you can get it for

00:18:40.320 free at glenbeck.com. Sign up for the show prep. There's a couple of stories in there about

00:18:45.960 assassinations and what is coming and how bad it is. This president has been targeted

00:18:51.600 officially now more than any other president in history. They have tried to kill him more than

00:18:56.400 any other president in u.s history and what we're seeing is a progression um it's a pattern okay

00:19:05.200 let's start at the beginning in 2016 a man at a rally in las vegas tried to grab a gun from a

00:19:10.940 police officer and shoot the president that's the old model that's the what was her name squeaky

00:19:16.000 from remember her tried to kill uh gerald ford it was impulsive it's fast it's rash it's the old 0.97

00:19:23.720 model. It's the old school. Back in my days, we tried to grab a gun. It's close range. It was

00:19:29.460 desperate. 2017 comes along. Things start to shift. A man tries to attack Trump's motorcade

00:19:36.640 with a forklift. Now, think about that. To me, this is the difference between planting a bomb

00:19:44.580 in the basement of the World Trade Center and then that not working and then trying to fly

00:19:48.980 airplanes into the side of the building five years later. The bad guys now are starting to

00:19:55.180 think about disruption and spectacle. By 2020, we're not even in that room anymore.

00:20:04.900 Letter arrives, 2020. Ricin, meant to kill through the mail. Distance now is entering 0.93

00:20:10.880 the picture. You don't need access. You just need to find a way to get proximity.

00:20:18.980 You need a system, a way to exploit it.

00:20:21.940 And then everything begins to accelerate from there.

00:20:26.540 Now 2024.

00:20:29.280 Planned, well thought out, strangely, seemingly very easy.

00:20:34.820 Butler, Pennsylvania, back to the movie assassin.

00:20:39.460 You know, the story is one gunman, rooftop, and a rifle.

00:20:44.060 And this time, it almost works.

00:20:46.220 It almost works. 0.92

00:20:47.620 a bullet hits trump's ear i mean if that's not an act of god i don't know what is

00:20:52.500 the supporter one supporter is killed others are shot and wounded this is no longer chaotic this

00:21:00.180 is planned well planned and calculated elevation distance all of it

00:21:06.040 here's the part that bothers me there are lots of warnings here lots of them

00:21:13.920 that particular case people saw the shooter on the roof no one stopped it in time

00:21:20.900 that was left that roof was left empty and unguarded really how two months later two

00:21:28.900 months after that assassination same same year west palm beach man hiding in the bushes at the

00:21:34.460 golf course with a rifle waiting watching this is not anger anymore now they're stalking him

00:21:41.780 and behind the scenes, federal prosecutors uncover a plot tied to individuals linked to the

00:21:48.480 Iranian Revolutionary Guard. This is two years ago and not just Trump, but multiple U.S. leaders

00:21:56.160 are targeted. I want to say that again. It's important because I'm going to tell you the

00:21:59.740 latest. Not just Trump, but several U.S. leaders are targeted by the Iranians. Now that's a 1.00

00:22:08.260 different category. Again, that's not a lone actor. That's geopolitical. That's foreign terrorism.

00:22:16.920 And yet the media is silent on that one. Nobody even brings that one up. Why is that? We're a war

00:22:21.700 with Iran. You would think that that would be a layer. Okay. Then we go to the last one, 1.00

00:22:28.320 Washington, D.C. Man forces his way into a room filled with the most powerful people in government

00:22:33.940 armed. Let me say that again. She filled with the most powerful people in government and he was

00:22:41.000 armed. He fires. Secret service agent is hit, survives. But I want you to think about the

00:22:49.500 target. It's not a rally. It's not a golf course. It's a room full of the leadership of the United

00:22:57.540 States. That's not an assassination. That's destabilization. Had it worked, that's

00:23:02.680 destabilization that's the that is the constitutional order being disrupted okay because who was in

00:23:10.080 that room that could have been a decapitation event of our government okay it wasn't but it

00:23:17.040 could have been and if that guy could get in what's stopping people with real money and from

00:23:23.680 iran getting in i mean remember oh well they can't do that who's going to fly planes into airplanes

00:23:30.100 into buildings well i don't know and why is the media treating it like this

00:23:37.120 because along the way there's been other lesser you know known pieces of this pattern

00:23:45.680 you know an armed man breaching uh mar-a-lago when was that six months ago a plot tied to isis

00:23:53.220 sympathizers. Again, foreign directed attempts stopped before execution, but foreign funded.

00:24:03.040 Some succeed in getting close. Some never make it out of planning,

00:24:06.580 but they're all signals. They're all signals.

00:24:13.360 Why aren't we listening to the signals? Well, let me give you an example. Let me go to the

00:24:16.940 let me go to the audio from today uh sarah if i can let me see if i can find my audio sheet let me

00:24:24.280 play let me play uh where is it here here's a michigan democrat uh believe running for senate

00:24:36.460 yeah running for senate okay here he is this weekend cut one and you personally see parallels

00:24:44.140 between Nazi Germany and what's happening under the Trump administration.

00:24:49.120 Yeah, I do.

00:24:50.320 It is deeply concerning that we see an authoritarian slide.

00:24:54.460 And as we talked about earlier, dividing people against each other to convince people that

00:25:00.660 if you're not doing well economically, it's somebody else's fault is an incredibly dangerous

00:25:05.360 place for us to be in.

00:25:06.680 I don't think that a lot of people would argue that there are shades of authoritarianism

00:25:11.600 here that we need to be deeply concerned about.

00:25:14.140 stop first of all have you checked who you're running on you're running with the democrats

00:25:19.320 if you're not doing well it's somebody else's fault that is your entire campaign that is the

00:25:25.700 platform of the democratic party what are you talking about but again let's just talk about

00:25:30.960 authoritarian and let's just compare them to nazis again also you had another senate uh candidate in

00:25:36.480 this time in pennsylvania that was arrested this weekend for making a threat uh about his

00:25:43.160 Republican challenger, left voicemails saying that congressman and his daughter would have

00:25:51.660 their throats slit and then also made threats against the president. So just this weekend,

00:25:58.780 you have two candidates for Senate in the Democratic Party saying this.

00:26:05.380 now that's a problem but the media doesn't want to address that

00:26:14.800 let me give you another one how about this one we're going to go to cut to this this is uh this

00:26:21.160 comes from virginia tech um virginia tech on friday a former columbia professor uh did a tour

00:26:32.320 stop there declaring his support for hamas and he's talking about the term death to america i

00:26:38.600 want you to listen to this we are in a war a racial religious war since 1492 as i'll elucidate

00:26:44.920 in a little while um but we are in a battle for hearts and minds and souls sir and so when we say

00:26:53.080 death to America

00:26:55.180 we mean 0.77

00:26:56.600 loud and clear

00:26:59.560 a total end to US

00:27:01.580 empire. The destruction of

00:27:03.580 this crusading settler colony 1.00

00:27:05.080 her entire project 0.99

00:27:06.860 her capacity to 0.60

00:27:09.600 meddle and intervene in other nations

00:27:11.840 to wage war

00:27:13.400 to engage in hoops, to engage in interventions

00:27:15.740 to continue her ongoing

00:27:17.480 genocide, her anti-blackness 0.95

00:27:20.240 her anti-indigenous 0.96

00:27:21.600 founding and structure

00:27:24.140 right here where

00:27:26.180 we are.

00:27:30.000 It means

00:27:30.800 our reckoning. It means

00:27:32.060 indigenous sovereignty. It means black soft 1.00

00:27:34.020 determination. It means that we would

00:27:36.160 be engaged in other different ways of

00:27:38.180 life according to

00:27:40.080 indigenous traditions and

00:27:42.080 spiritualities and ways of living

00:27:43.900 with the land and not on it.

00:27:47.660 Wow.

00:27:48.620 That's amazing. He's

00:27:50.140 so open-minded and so great mohammed abdu um by the way uh the death to the academy tour spot uh 0.98

00:27:58.580 stop spelled with a k i guess it's kind of like america with a k or did they just have a leftover 0.86

00:28:04.640 k you know because maybe they were printing signs that said kkk k and they had a leftover k and

00:28:10.460 they're like oh no it's only three k's i'm not sure i'm not sure but um it's so open-minded of

00:28:16.780 him, right? Wow. What could possibly, besides justice, what could Mohammed's reasoning be

00:28:23.960 to collapse and destroy the United States of America? 0.95

00:28:31.200 What's happening here, America? What's changed? Everything. Everything. You know, it used to be

00:28:39.980 one guy walking in behind president lincoln and shooting him one guy hinkley coming up and

00:28:49.440 shooting the president one moment now it's layered you have the lone actors you also have the

00:28:55.960 ideological extremists you have the distance attacks the mail the surveillance the infiltration

00:29:01.900 but you also have something else you have the failure points you have the security gaps you

00:29:06.420 have the missed warnings you have systems that don't seem to be adapting or at least not fast

00:29:12.300 enough but you also have on top of that foreign intelligence plots

00:29:18.780 let me ask you this did you notice the news this weekend about uh about how we just need

00:29:28.900 to end the billionaires oh if we can just stop with all the billionaires we'd just be free

00:29:33.740 wait what was that democratic senator in michigan saying that you know to say you're not successful

00:29:40.440 because of somebody else i'm sorry i don't know how that works with ending the billionaires

00:29:45.040 taxing the rich anyway who funded all that foreign money millions and millions of dollars

00:29:55.440 from communist china and other hostile actors in the middle east

00:29:59.040 are we looking for any of that

00:30:03.320 is anybody putting this together the real story here the real story connect the dots

00:30:15.180 real story is there have been multiple attempts multiple and it's not that it's how they're

00:30:22.820 changing from impulsive, those are still in play, to planned, to networked, to international. Now

00:30:30.020 you got all of them. Now you have all of them. And yet the media and those tasked to protect the

00:30:35.040 constitutional order, treating it like this, like nothing has really changed. We're just still

00:30:39.460 dealing with a lone gunman. I don't think so. May I ask three questions here? One, why isn't our

00:30:45.640 system blaring flashing red lights everywhere? Why is this still happening? Why are we not hearing

00:30:51.000 about all the additional threats. Two, has anybody asked, with this trajectory, what does the next

00:30:58.980 version of assassination attempt look like? Not 10 years from now, the next one.

00:31:05.500 And the third one, and maybe the most uncomfortable, is,

00:31:09.420 I think the president is traveling to China, isn't he? China has just spent millions of

00:31:16.340 on our streets, trying to collapse our system. We know Donald Trump has hurt China a great deal.

00:31:24.260 Of course, you'll never hear that in the media because they're all for China. You'll never hear

00:31:28.840 anybody talk about it in universities because they're getting all that Chinese money. 0.78

00:31:33.400 But let me ask you, as they are funding Code Pink and all of the others who are vowing to

00:31:39.720 stop the president by any means necessary, should the president meet in China with the

00:31:45.760 Chinese leaders or should maybe we meet in some like neutral territory and maybe perhaps you know

00:31:51.380 make sure the president's not poked by an umbrella or shake hands with somebody

00:31:55.140 I'm sorry I actually worry about the president and I would be saying the same thing if it was

00:32:02.980 a democrat and the conditions were exactly the same this is the president of the United States

00:32:08.440 please Mr. President

00:32:10.420 don't go to China

00:32:11.460 don't go to China

00:32:13.800 and maybe

00:32:16.960 our DOJ should start

00:32:18.600 really stopping 1.00

00:32:20.540 all of the foreign money that is coming 0.97

00:32:22.920 in to kill you 0.68

00:32:24.860 maybe they should spend 10 minutes on that 1.00

00:32:28.460 this is the best

00:32:31.020 of the Glenn Beck program

00:32:32.880 welcome to the Glenn Beck program

00:32:37.660 i'm glad you're here uh thank you so much for listening with everything that's going on in the

00:32:42.720 world and there's a lot i want to bring carol roth in uh to talk a little bit about um well

00:32:48.320 let's start with oil why did oil go up today uh carol when the president announced he was

00:32:53.820 opening up and and protecting some ships going through you know so i think there's something

00:33:01.480 you've heard of the boy who cries wolf problem right and unfortunately i think that the president

00:33:07.600 has a little bit of a straight will be open and safe problem. Some investors may put it to the

00:33:15.520 side, and sometimes you see that in the stock market. But the hardcore investors, those who

00:33:21.680 are in the bond market, those who are in the commodity market, they are looking at not what

00:33:27.800 the president is saying directly, they're reading between the lines, and they're taking note of his

00:33:33.000 actions, because the president happens to be very transparent if you know what you're looking for.

00:33:39.320 And basically, every time the yields on the 10-year get into the range of about 4.4%,

00:33:46.200 the administration, led by a very smart guy at the Treasury in Scott Besant,

00:33:51.780 starts to worry that we're going to have bond market dysfunction. And so the president comes

00:33:57.120 out and says, everything is going to be good. Everything is going to be wrapped up here soon.

00:34:02.760 and we're taking care of everything in an effort to get those yields down and to buy them a little

00:34:09.400 bit of space and a safety buffer. And if you are in the bond market, you're in the commodity market,

00:34:15.280 you've noticed this pattern. And at some point, you don't believe it anymore. And obviously,

00:34:20.860 the longer that this goes on, and the more tail there is, there's going to be on cost and economic

00:34:27.840 consequences. So I think that you have, you know, in certain markets, you know, certainly each one

00:34:34.060 is individual in terms of how they're digesting information and has different focuses. But I

00:34:39.000 think that they have caught on to, you know, every time we hit this level, this is what the

00:34:44.000 administration says, but we're not actually seeing an end to this conflict. And, you know,

00:34:50.320 investors who are very focused on geopolitics and oil and gas, you know, believe that the

00:34:56.200 rate at this point is closed indefinitely and that there's no clarity about when an opening

00:35:01.800 date is really going to happen so even if ships apparently three american flag ships have gone

00:35:07.760 through even if ships are going through now none of them had oil i think but yeah so you know

00:35:15.280 obviously there would have to be a long extended you know not not a one-off situation or a three

00:35:21.860 off situation, but there would have to be a return to some sense of normalcy and flow.

00:35:28.740 And even then, that doesn't mean that there's definitely an end to the conflict, but that

00:35:34.380 within the context is going to have a different read in terms of the market.

00:35:39.700 And look, the reality is, Glenn, that the cost of gas and the cost of oil on a worldwide

00:35:47.240 basis should be higher at this point in time.

00:35:49.780 There has been a lot of concerted efforts in terms of strategic petroleum reserve releases across the world and other efforts to try to keep this down and keep a lid on it during the conflict.

00:36:02.680 So even at the high levels that we're at, it could be worse.

00:36:06.160 And I think that, again, that's part of the calculus is how much runway is there to keep a lid on this over time.

00:36:14.020 And obviously, the longer that it goes on, the more longer term risk there is.

00:36:19.780 So the flying bananas are done this, uh, this weekend spirit airlines is, uh, is out.

00:36:25.840 And Elizabeth Warren, when, you know, when she announced this with, uh, with Joe Biden,

00:36:30.700 that they weren't going to merge with jet blue, uh, she said, that's a win for the Republican

00:36:36.160 win for Biden.

00:36:37.800 Well, it's not a win for anybody who had, you know, tickets on a cheap airline to go

00:36:42.400 someplace to go see grandma or go back to school or whatever it was.

00:36:46.600 That's not a win for you today.

00:36:47.980 all these people have lost their jobs the airline is closed the only ones that will win are the 0.99

00:36:52.220 bigger airlines yeah the thing about the elizabeth warrens which has

00:36:58.140 progressivism but basically liberalism in general at this point is that they are always wrong and

00:37:05.840 never in doubt and this is a very dangerous combination because you know you can have this

00:37:12.380 moral preening, but it doesn't replace economic reality. And they are so decoupled from the

00:37:19.640 economic reality, either because they don't understand or because they don't care that they

00:37:24.820 get to be Ralph Wiggum from The Simpsons. Oh, I did a thing. I helped. And, you know, no,

00:37:29.440 you did not help. They take their victory lap. And then what happens is that long term,

00:37:35.080 everybody suffers the consequences. You know, M&A is part of my background. I'm a recovering

00:37:40.500 investment banker. You know, we see this all the time. You have a company that needs a lifeline

00:37:46.340 and another company steps in and it's letting the market sorted out. Does it mean that, you know,

00:37:51.940 that that would have worked? I don't know. It's, you know, 50-50, but at least there would have

00:37:57.560 been a chance. What they did is they took a struggling company and they said, no, you cannot

00:38:03.180 have that lifeline. Look, we did a good thing. And like you said, now we have less choice.

00:38:08.860 Now we have people who are out of a job. Now we have less of an opportunity for this to work its way out in the markets and in the system. And this isn't just about M&A. This is about minimum wage. This is about rent control.

00:38:27.040 This is about every time they don't understand or don't care about economic reality, they want to do a thing.

00:38:34.260 They want to do their Ralph Wiggum thing and be helping, and they're not helping, and they're making it harder for Americans to thrive, to be successful, and in some cases just to afford the cost of living.

00:38:46.040 And unfortunately, that's where we're at today.

00:38:47.960 well but you can't i'm sorry but i can't i can't give them the benefit of the doubt on this because

00:38:56.300 every time i mean the the facts are out about minimum wage they're going to go and say there

00:39:02.220 needs to be a minimum wage now they're going to try to pass it in congress again um no especially

00:39:08.440 not a national minimum wage what what somebody can live on in preston idaho is different than

00:39:14.640 what somebody can live on in New York city. That makes no sense whatsoever. You put a national

00:39:20.660 living wage together and it's 25 bucks. The people in small towns of America, you will lose those

00:39:27.740 jobs. You will lose many of the jobs in the big cities because people can't afford that as a

00:39:33.460 business. And the, the proof is there. They just never seem to want to look at it. Yeah. I mean,

00:39:41.140 If you recall, I'm with you on this.

00:39:43.100 If you recall, my second book was The War on Small Business, which talked about what

00:39:47.380 happened during COVID and how there was this direct attack on the small businesses of the

00:39:53.280 world.

00:39:53.540 And the intention behind it is that small business equates to freedom.

00:39:59.220 You know, small businesses are very independent.

00:40:01.640 They're scattered geographically and individually.

00:40:04.560 They don't have the funds to support these candidates and the lobbying efforts and, you

00:40:10.100 quote unquote, legally launder money the way that big businesses can. And so they always talk about

00:40:19.000 how it's Main Street's term and we're here for the backbone of the economy. But at the end of

00:40:23.900 the day, they're not thinking about the economy, they're thinking about their power. And what

00:40:28.040 consolidates their power is being in bed with the big guys, which is why we have corporatism

00:40:33.320 instead of capitalism these days and it seems to me that um these companies need to go through with

00:40:42.200 it i just saw an interview with the mayor of seattle and she's like no starbucks is not going

00:40:46.300 to move they need us they need to be in seattle i don't think they do need you but they might have

00:40:51.220 some loyalty to seattle but i have to tell you if i heard some somebody who had been marching

00:40:56.420 revolutionaries in front of my business say that i would be so but i'm different i'd be like you

00:41:02.520 know what wrap it up gang we're moving i don't care where we're moving to we're going to move

00:41:05.780 to tennessee we're going to move to florida we're going to move to texas but we're moving that's it

00:41:09.220 enough same in new york you come after these corporations are they actually going to move

00:41:16.680 do you think i mean we've seen it here in chicago absolutely over time they're going to be

00:41:23.540 forced to do it ken griffin who was the founder of citadel which is a major financial services

00:41:29.000 firm got absolutely fed up with what was going on in the state and the attempt to milk businesses,

00:41:35.260 milk the, you know, quote unquote, wealthiest people. And so he took his own tax base. He took

00:41:41.340 a bunch of jobs and, oh, by the way, a lot of philanthropy. You know, he gave a lot of money

00:41:46.160 to improve the city. And what we're seeing is it's not only him, but other wealthy people who

00:41:51.240 have left. And the burden is now falling to the middle and working class. You have a bunch of

00:41:58.060 people who are saying, I don't understand how my property tax bills keep going up. I don't

00:42:03.260 understand why everything is getting more expensive here. It's because they're driving

00:42:08.080 out the people who are giving the most dollars to the state in order to be able to operate.

00:42:14.520 You think the state is going to all of a sudden peel back its budget? No, they're just going to

00:42:19.560 continue to pass it on. So instead of growing the pie, they're shrinking the pie and you have to

00:42:24.840 eat a bigger piece of it in this case the pie is not delicious glenn yeah and it's sad because it

00:42:30.680 are the ones who pay like spirit airlines it's the it's the poorest it's the poorest people you know

00:42:36.060 nobody rich you know is riding spirit airlines it's just the people who are struggling you know

00:42:40.700 day to day to get by who are or you know wanting to save money and spirit airlines was there for

00:42:45.560 them and now they're not um can i switch subjects go ahead oh sure go ahead finish up well i was

00:42:52.360 just gonna say that they're gonna they're going to price people out of being able to take a

00:42:57.740 vacation the the people who are at you know the working hard working class people are no longer

00:43:04.000 going to be able to fly because the government had to get in the middle and say i'm sorry you

00:43:08.420 can't have this choice exactly right exactly right um you know we did our big uh celebration for

00:43:15.160 america's 250 or freedom 250 it's it's always confusing because freedom 250 is the conservatives

00:43:20.660 doing something america's 250 is the big corporate uh you know and progressive thing that wants to

00:43:27.380 keep america kind of you know the american founding is problematic so we don't really

00:43:32.080 want to focus on that that's an actual quote um but you know i remember i'm old enough to remember

00:43:37.480 the bicentennial i remember in in 1976 it was everywhere everywhere and there were products

00:43:45.200 everywhere i don't even see i don't see any marketing of this at all anywhere do you

00:43:52.160 so this is a crazy thing there was um something that came out from oreo in the last couple of

00:43:58.920 days that they're doing a special edition oreo with red white and blue filling in the middle

00:44:05.760 so of course my initial thought like okay great this is you know 250th anniversary celebration

00:44:11.980 Finally, we're going to see some merch. And no, they're doing it. They're calling it the

00:44:17.060 firecracker popsicle edition instead of branding it with this huge celebrity milestone. And it's

00:44:28.160 just as not only a patriot who would buy every piece of merch that is out there because it's

00:44:34.980 just fabulous and you can't get your hands on enough red, white, and blue and things that

00:44:39.040 celebrate America. But as somebody who focuses today a lot on marketing and branding, this is

00:44:45.220 just leaving cash on the table. And the fact that no one in corporate America is stepping in to this

00:44:53.000 celebration, I have seen almost no merchandise. And it's a shock because I would have thought

00:44:58.460 the second we hit January 1st, we would have seen the American flag, red, white, and blue

00:45:03.380 everywhere. It's been absolute radio silence. And now we have a product and they didn't even

00:45:08.640 put the branding on it yeah it's crazy i didn't even know that about oreo that is nuts if fire

00:45:15.240 crackers what you can't say i mean who you who else is marketing i guess you could market those

00:45:20.260 to to france and england as well they're red white and blue but i mean you know it's clear

00:45:25.260 who they're for um thank you so much carol i appreciate it

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