The Glenn Beck Program - January 19, 2026


Best of the Program | Guests: Harmeet Dhillon & Peter Schweizer | 1⧸19⧸26


Episode Stats

Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

158.77061

Word Count

6,955

Sentence Count

529

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

On this episode of the Glenn Beck Show, host Glenn Beck is joined by Peter Schweitzer and Harmeet Dillon to discuss the protests in Minnesota and the call for the "Face Off" on CNN's Don Lemon. Also, Harmeet talks about her new book, "The Devil Next Door" and why she thinks Donald Trump is crazy.


Transcript

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00:00:22.880 What is Trump preparing for on the world stage?
00:00:25.700 What does it mean, this Greenland stuff, what's going on with Canada and Germany and Europe?
00:00:30.820 Why is he doing this?
00:00:32.200 What is he actually saying?
00:00:34.340 And forget about what everybody says, even maybe you, say about Donald Trump, good or bad.
00:00:39.440 Let's look at the actions.
00:00:41.180 What does it tell us?
00:00:42.820 Also, Peter Schweitzer joins to discuss his new book and what is going on with Mexico.
00:00:47.020 This is mind-blowing.
00:00:48.980 You really want to understand how much trouble we are in this hemisphere.
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00:00:52.960 And Harmeet Dillon joins me to discuss invoking the FACE Act on the protesters in Minnesota this weekend,
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00:03:13.060 So I'm watching all of this stuff unfold over the weekend.
00:03:24.140 Gosh, with Canada, I can't wait to get into that with Mark Carney and what Mark Carney is doing up in Canada, cozying up with China in a big way.
00:03:33.560 This is not going to go well.
00:03:35.800 You know, the Iran news, Iran, somebody hacked into all of the television stations yesterday.
00:03:42.360 And the crown prince spoke for the first time to the Persian and Iranian people.
00:03:47.580 And it was amazing.
00:03:48.820 We get into that.
00:03:49.560 Minnesota is absolutely on fire.
00:03:51.380 And then I'm seeing this stuff about Greenland and, you know, the German chancellor saying, we might hold back some athletes, you know, coming to World Cup.
00:04:04.880 And you're like, oh, really?
00:04:05.960 That's okay.
00:04:06.940 Because Trump is now putting a 10% tariff on everybody in NATO.
00:04:11.420 And people are saying, and this is logical.
00:04:14.000 Wait a minute.
00:04:14.360 Those are our allies.
00:04:15.360 Listen, listen, listen, listen, I think, I think I understand what he's doing.
00:04:22.320 And it is exactly what we have been begging someone to do.
00:04:27.040 It's just happening at such a rapid pace.
00:04:30.120 You can't get your arms around it.
00:04:31.840 So let me go through what I think is, is happening because I heard people say, Donald Trump, is he trying to get us into a war?
00:04:40.600 Is he crazy?
00:04:41.600 Is he just arrogant?
00:04:42.600 And the question is not whether his language offends our allies or unsettles markets or whether he's just arrogant or whatever.
00:04:52.760 The question is whether you like him or not.
00:04:55.280 The question is this.
00:04:58.060 What does a man do when he believes the world order is already collapsing and no one else is willing to admit it?
00:05:08.040 And no one is standing up for his country.
00:05:10.900 Because if you strip away all of the insults, all of the bluster, all of the tweets, you're not left with chaos.
00:05:19.440 You're left with a pattern.
00:05:22.080 And that's what I do best.
00:05:23.780 I see patterns and I follow patterns.
00:05:26.940 So hear me out on this.
00:05:29.160 What if tariffs are not really about taxes or trade?
00:05:33.260 What happens if peace deals aren't actually about peace?
00:05:41.800 Pressure on Iran, Venezuela, the Middle East, and even Greenland.
00:05:44.980 What happens if that's not what you think it is?
00:05:49.260 Because they're not disconnected.
00:05:52.240 They are moves on a board most leaders refuse to acknowledge even still exists.
00:05:58.040 Because the board was taken away by Woodrow Wilson.
00:06:01.380 Oh, I can't believe I get to talk about Woodrow Wilson again.
00:06:05.940 Not too much.
00:06:06.520 Trump is not trying to manage the post-World War II order.
00:06:12.420 He's trying to kill it before it kills us.
00:06:16.480 Now listen.
00:06:18.280 Hear me out.
00:06:19.460 Clear your mind of everything you think.
00:06:22.000 And just hear this.
00:06:23.800 And let it settle just in an empty room for a second.
00:06:27.900 Before you start putting all the other thoughts that you have in it, just hear it out.
00:06:31.620 He believes, rightly or wrongly, that the American system built by Woodrow Wilson and then again after 1945 with Bretton Woods has been captured.
00:06:43.540 It was hollowed out and it was used and turned against the United States, the nation that created it.
00:06:52.400 So globalization, which was supposed to spread prosperity, concentrates power.
00:06:57.840 The institutions it created no longer stabilize.
00:07:02.660 All they do is delay collapse because they're not looking forward anymore.
00:07:10.900 And that if you wait politely while the debt explodes, while supply chains fracture, while rivals prepare, that's the important one.
00:07:21.560 While rivals prepare, that's not wisdom.
00:07:24.800 That's suicide.
00:07:25.640 So, when you think this is overwhelming, what is he doing?
00:07:34.180 Think of this.
00:07:36.220 If you, everything that you've learned since 2008 about the Tides Foundation and about Soros and about the DSA and all of the things you've learned about, that's taken us 25 years to learn about.
00:07:51.220 If we would have seen them do this in 12 months, how overwhelming would it feel, right?
00:08:00.640 It would seem like it was chaos.
00:08:02.860 Like, what the hell is happening, right?
00:08:05.480 Well, we've watched the global elites prepare while we've done nothing.
00:08:11.220 We have watched over the past, I mean, 25 years for sure, but it's been going on longer than this.
00:08:16.820 We have watched Davos, the World Economic Forum, the UN, China, Russia, even the Saudis.
00:08:24.900 Four years ago, three years ago, we're saying we're going towards China.
00:08:28.320 They have all made moves slowly over 20 years to put America in this box.
00:08:35.740 The left made their moves over the last 40 years as well with the schools, the Tides Foundation, the Muslim Brotherhood, CARE, DSA.
00:08:43.420 Hey, do you know that the Democratic Socialists of America are training 1,000 citizens for resistance in New York right now?
00:08:51.560 You know our treasuries have been drained through corruption for the NGOs.
00:08:55.900 We know that now.
00:08:59.080 Meanwhile, what have we been doing?
00:09:01.580 We've been saying something's got to do something to stop it.
00:09:03.860 That's why everybody's so focused on the DOJ.
00:09:06.800 And I'm going to get to the DOJ, especially tomorrow, but I'm going to get to the DOJ in a minute.
00:09:10.900 But Trump has done 20 years of work in one year.
00:09:17.780 I don't think any president has done more, like it or not.
00:09:21.500 I don't think any president has done more in 12 months, one year, than Donald Trump.
00:09:27.860 And you may not like it, but you need to understand it.
00:09:31.860 Because you know and I know we are looking at the possible end of America and the Western civilization, right?
00:09:42.120 Isn't that what we're all fighting for?
00:09:44.080 I was fighting for my country, but I believe Western civilization is at stake.
00:09:48.060 And he is mobilizing all of the resources that he has to prepare for that so when that big battle comes, when that thing breaks, we don't go the way of the Great Reset.
00:10:02.140 Remember, that's what the Great Reset is.
00:10:04.760 The Great Reset was to overwhelm the system, to destroy our borders, to get people out on the streets and everything else, and put all of this framework in so when it did collapse, it would fall into that framework of the WEF.
00:10:20.860 That's exactly what Donald Trump is doing.
00:10:24.080 But I also believe he sees war coming on the horizon.
00:10:27.640 So, let me go back to tariffs.
00:10:31.760 Tariffs, in his mind, I don't believe are economic policy.
00:10:36.400 They're stress tests.
00:10:38.620 Who folds when access to the American markets is threatened?
00:10:42.480 Look at who retaliates.
00:10:44.000 Look at what's happening with Canada.
00:10:45.840 Is Canada our friend?
00:10:47.720 He puts a stress test out, and they fold and run to the Chinese.
00:10:51.580 They've exposed themselves.
00:10:53.100 They think that he's so authoritarian that they'll run to the Chinese.
00:10:58.380 So, he has exposed the leadership of Canada as not being people who are really in for freedom because they will run to the Chinese.
00:11:09.080 The stress test of the tariffs.
00:11:11.460 Who cannot survive without us?
00:11:15.440 Look at peace deals in a totally different way.
00:11:18.080 Let's just say the peace deals are not necessarily about harmony.
00:11:26.260 They're about freeing bandwidth.
00:11:29.180 Hear me out on this.
00:11:30.580 It's about putting out small fires before the larger ones ignite.
00:11:34.780 Look at what was the first thing he did when he got in.
00:11:38.320 He made peace in the Middle East.
00:11:40.960 Can I ask you, what has been our biggest distraction over the last 40 years?
00:11:48.780 It's been the Middle East, right?
00:11:50.200 We're always being dragged into war into the Middle East.
00:11:53.220 Somehow or another, we're always over there.
00:11:55.900 He knows if we're going to be a strong country, we cannot be in the Middle East.
00:11:59.940 So, he makes peace in the Middle East, and he brokers it in such a deal where they're not coming to us.
00:12:07.240 They now all have a peace in that deal.
00:12:09.820 And so, they're now responsible for it.
00:12:12.640 Not the United States.
00:12:14.060 We're not the big boy saying, hey, get back to the table.
00:12:16.300 Well, they're at the table, and they have to hold it together so we can focus on other things.
00:12:23.280 Iran, Venezuela, Greenland.
00:12:26.060 These are not crazy obsessions with him.
00:12:28.980 They are nodes.
00:12:30.840 They're nodes of energy.
00:12:32.540 They're nodes of minerals.
00:12:34.320 They're nodes of currency dominance.
00:12:36.080 They are nodes of missile warning, Arctic control.
00:12:40.900 You know, when you look at Greenland, try this out for size.
00:12:47.360 Everybody's, imagine just changing this way of thinking.
00:12:50.160 Global warming, global warming, global warming.
00:12:53.760 The poles are melting.
00:12:57.760 If the poles are melting, you have a couple of ways to go.
00:13:01.580 We've got to stop the poles from melting quick.
00:13:03.780 Everybody ship air conditioners up to the polar bears.
00:13:07.000 Okay?
00:13:07.820 We've got to stop making things because we've got to save the polar bears.
00:13:13.360 Okay, that's one way of thinking.
00:13:14.420 Another way is saying, wait a minute, if the poles do melt, the whole world is going to reshape, and that makes the Arctic shipping lanes.
00:13:29.160 Shipping lanes.
00:13:30.660 That's the Middle East, only colder.
00:13:33.340 He sees the future, and unlike the polite architects of multilateral management, thank you, Woodrow Wilson, he doesn't trust committees to secure the choke points in a world of scarcity.
00:13:48.900 That's what we're headed for, a world of scarcity.
00:13:52.060 When you are, when you are a world that is collapsed on its own weight, because I've told you, everyone is collapsing.
00:14:00.780 This has never happened in world history.
00:14:02.860 Everyone has abused their currency.
00:14:05.440 So everyone is collapsing at once.
00:14:10.180 So what does that mean?
00:14:11.900 That means, even if there's no war, the shipping breaks down.
00:14:16.180 The supply systems break down.
00:14:18.340 And you have to be self-contained.
00:14:20.540 So what did he do over in Europe?
00:14:22.460 The first thing he said was, you guys have to take care of yourself.
00:14:26.120 And you have to stand up in your own country for your country.
00:14:29.580 Don't depend on this globalism.
00:14:31.980 It's not real.
00:14:34.460 It's not going to happen.
00:14:36.660 Now, his worldview, I started looking this up, it's not new.
00:14:40.780 In fact, I mean, you can find it all the way back to the Greeks.
00:14:43.740 But in America, if you look, this is more Hamilton, not Jefferson, more Hamilton and George Washington.
00:14:53.960 Let me explain a couple of things.
00:14:58.140 Washington and Hamilton, both of them believed.
00:15:01.680 I mean, Washington used to say in his farewell address, and it was ignored for the last century.
00:15:07.180 He said, alliances, don't get yourself in complicated, long-term alliances.
00:15:11.580 Alliances are temporary.
00:15:14.200 We have all of these long-term alliances like NATO.
00:15:17.200 And we're like, what the hell are we even in NATO for?
00:15:19.320 What do they do for us now?
00:15:20.500 It was important back then, but is it important today?
00:15:22.620 That's Washington.
00:15:24.860 Washington saying they are temporary.
00:15:28.000 Use them, but be friends to everyone.
00:15:31.440 But things are going to change.
00:15:33.520 So that's what he's testing.
00:15:35.620 He's testing now who is really an ally and who's not.
00:15:40.660 Also, trade has to serve national strength.
00:15:44.060 That's Washington and Hamilton.
00:15:45.520 Debt is dangerous, especially if it's external.
00:15:48.400 And industry has to be protected.
00:15:50.100 Lincoln, McKinley, the American system of production before protection became a dirty word,
00:15:57.820 before Woodrow Wilson.
00:16:00.520 This is the belief that sovereignty precedes morality,
00:16:04.140 that nations survive by strength, not speeches,
00:16:07.720 that systems decay whether we acknowledge it or not.
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00:17:19.860 Peter Slicer, welcome to the program.
00:17:21.900 I have read many of your books.
00:17:24.960 We've had you on for all of them.
00:17:26.400 I think, Peter, this is the most important book you have written yet.
00:17:30.560 Well, thank you, Glenn.
00:17:31.600 We have worked together for a long time.
00:17:33.820 That means a lot to me.
00:17:34.760 Thank you.
00:17:35.400 It's one of those issues that we've talked a lot about in general, which is immigration.
00:17:41.000 But the book is really about weaponized immigration.
00:17:45.720 And, you know, it's important.
00:17:47.100 We've had the conversations about how immigration affects the economy, how it affects our culture.
00:17:52.100 But when we realize this is actually something that's being wielded against us by countries like China, but also Mexico with a real agenda behind it, an agenda, by the way, that I quote them as explaining in the book, I think it puts the immigration debate in a whole different level.
00:18:09.340 I have to tell you, I learned more in the first two chapters about Mexico that horrified me because I've always felt good about Mexico.
00:18:17.940 You know, they have problems with the drugs and I felt bad for it.
00:18:20.420 Huh?
00:18:21.140 Huh?
00:18:21.520 They are not there.
00:18:23.700 They're not doing us any favors at all.
00:18:26.180 And we'll get into that here in a second.
00:18:27.600 Can we start with chapter one?
00:18:29.080 And if you don't mind, Peter, I may have to ask you to come over and join me tomorrow as well, because I don't know if we're going to get past the first two chapters.
00:18:37.200 There's so much meat in here in chapter in chapter one is proof of concept.
00:18:43.840 And it starts with Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro.
00:18:47.080 And I don't recall any of this.
00:18:50.360 Can you take us through that?
00:18:52.860 Yeah, this is back in 1980, the Mariel boat left.
00:18:56.100 And a lot of people that were around will remember that the United States was flooded with Cuban refugees.
00:19:02.820 And Jimmy Carter, when this first started developing, said, you know, we're a compassionate country, which is true.
00:19:10.120 We're going to welcome them with open arms.
00:19:12.000 And Fidel Castro told his top aides, well, we're going to fill their arms with excrement.
00:19:18.280 He used a different word.
00:19:19.760 And this was really the first modern example of weaponized immigration, because what Fidel Castro recognized was we can actually attack the United States by sending them criminals, people that are mentally ill, but also people that are going to set up criminal networks and drug networks inside the United States.
00:19:43.580 And so what we thought was a sort of random humanitarian event was actually a targeted attack.
00:19:49.820 And I quote from a government panel that later looked at the Mariel boat lift and concluded that it was probably the third most lethal foreign attack on the United States.
00:20:01.320 Besides Pearl Harbor and 9-11, the Mariel boat lift was probably the third most lethal attack.
00:20:07.080 And the thing that's so genius about what Castro did is, you know, Pearl Harbor and 9-11, you attack us, what happens?
00:20:16.040 We strike you back harder than you hit us.
00:20:18.900 That's the American way.
00:20:20.380 If it's a humanitarian attack through immigration, who do you attack?
00:20:25.320 Who do you launch the military again?
00:20:26.880 So it's genius.
00:20:28.120 And this became a template for a lot of modern Latin American leaders in the summer of 1980, when this was unfolding, Fidel Castro goes to Nicaragua to meet with Sandinista leaders.
00:20:41.680 And there's a young revolutionary there named Lula, who later today is the president of Brazil.
00:20:48.720 And he sets up an entity called the Sao Paulo Forum with Fidel Castro, which includes progressive leaders from across Latin America and in the United States, the Democratic Socialists of America, which is Bernie Sanders and AOC's group.
00:21:04.420 And the Sao Paulo Forum has weaponized immigration against us today, and that includes the Morena Party of Mexico and Petro, the leader of Colombia, and a whole host of other countries who have adopted this as their strategy to defeat the United States.
00:21:24.100 OK, so so lay that out more carefully so people understand you're not just making that statement.
00:21:30.400 This is a very well-organized, well-financed, and well-executed plan that is out in the open.
00:21:40.860 Just none of us have ever seen it or heard of it.
00:21:44.200 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:44.880 And look, again, this is not Peter Schweitzer asserting this.
00:21:48.540 I mean, there are quotes throughout the book from leaders explaining what's going on.
00:21:53.700 You mentioned Mexico, and I always thought of Mexico in the context of, OK, you've got kind of this hapless government, and it's corrupt, and they're kind of glad for mass migration because now they don't have to feed their own people.
00:22:07.200 The reality is, in their own words, they view immigration very differently.
00:22:12.900 Glenn, this is from a government report.
00:22:15.700 This is a report written by one of President Scheinbaum's top aides in December of 2024.
00:22:22.880 OK, hang on just a sec.
00:22:23.860 Scheinbaum, in case you don't know, is the president of Mexico.
00:22:27.180 This is 2024, president of Mexico.
00:22:30.120 Go ahead.
00:22:31.300 Yeah.
00:22:31.720 We already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million.
00:22:37.660 We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory.
00:22:41.340 That's from December of 2024.
00:22:43.180 Here's a powerful senator who's also a member of the Marina Party who sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate.
00:22:52.660 Quote, we Mexicans are in our territories, California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming.
00:23:03.000 We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us.
00:23:07.140 And, you know, Glenn, you hear these quotes and you think, OK, well, maybe this is just bravado.
00:23:13.120 But as I point out in the book, they have actually created a network and infrastructure inside the United States.
00:23:20.160 And this infrastructure, this includes Mexican government officials inside the United States who are organizing violent protests like those that hit Los Angeles, those that are in Minneapolis.
00:23:30.780 And they are actively participating in our politics.
00:23:35.980 They are working to elect Democrats who are sympathetic, a foreign government, to elect Democrats who are sympathetic to them on immigration and working to defeat President Trump through Mexican consulates that are across the United States.
00:23:51.820 Peter, I have to ask you a question, it is it's when I first started talking about George Soros, I just thought I had discovered something new and I hadn't just there were very few people that were dumb enough to take him on.
00:24:10.080 I didn't know the rules you don't take on George Soros, you know what I mean?
00:24:12.980 So I exposed all this stuff and I because I thought it was new.
00:24:17.660 This is this is so it is so clear.
00:24:21.300 Your sources are so clear.
00:24:23.740 The names of everyone who says it, who's on the committees, who's who's using the money, who's here in America, who's overseas.
00:24:32.340 All of it is so clear and clearly laid out.
00:24:36.780 Why don't we know about any of this until now?
00:24:40.560 Why did it take you to come out?
00:24:42.980 And put this all together.
00:24:44.740 Well, great, great question, Glenn.
00:24:47.960 And you're right.
00:24:48.820 I mean, you were really one of the first people to publicly take on Soros.
00:24:52.640 And God bless you for doing that.
00:24:54.660 I think it's a couple of things.
00:24:56.020 I think, first of all, Mexico has a reputation for being kind of a sleepy, corrupt government and people don't take them seriously.
00:25:04.740 I think we should.
00:25:06.340 Mexico.
00:25:07.080 Think about this for a second, Glenn.
00:25:09.140 Mexico has 53 consulates in the United States.
00:25:13.320 53.
00:25:13.840 In contrast, the two other countries with the most are China and the United Kingdom with six and seven.
00:25:21.500 So they have this vast network in the United States.
00:25:23.920 And I think that, you know, they have masked what they're doing quite effectively.
00:25:29.900 People that are aware of it that are, you know, some of these NGOs.
00:25:33.460 You mentioned Soros, their NGOs funded by Bill Gates and others who talk about the fact that for them.
00:25:40.520 And again, these are their words for them.
00:25:42.900 Immigration is about transforming the United States.
00:25:47.040 This is a quote from 2023 that I think lays out the fact that they want this to be silent.
00:25:53.420 Again, this is from 2023.
00:25:54.640 The head of the Mexican news agency, which is like their sort of associated press, he says, quote, we are quietly carrying out the reconquest of our territories in the U.S.
00:26:05.660 And the day that the gringos realized this, their diabolical fundamentalism will become macabre.
00:26:20.160 But in other words, we need to keep this quiet.
00:26:22.680 We don't want to talk about it publicly, because when the gringos, as he says, find out, they're going to be really, really angry about it.
00:26:30.340 So we need to recognize what's going on, have an honest conversation about it.
00:26:35.820 There are dozens of these quotes in the book from Mexican officials.
00:26:39.080 And we go through and name the Mexican government officials who were at the center of the L.A. riots last year, who are manipulating our politics.
00:26:50.720 OK, so I want you to go through.
00:26:53.280 I mean, I cannot urge you.
00:26:55.260 This is and you know me.
00:26:56.960 I will talk highly about books that I really like and I think are important.
00:27:01.100 This book is probably the most important book you can read, I think, in the last five or six years.
00:27:07.940 There is so much information here.
00:27:10.360 I think this I mean, this is this is a nation's work.
00:27:14.300 Honestly, this, I hope, is with the president and his people and at the DOJ, if they were useful at all.
00:27:20.420 But this is the most important book you can read.
00:27:24.020 It's called The Invisible Coup by Peter Schweizer.
00:27:27.240 Peter has been on.
00:27:28.080 If you know, if you've been listening to me for a long time, he is a friend.
00:27:30.780 He has been on the program over and over again.
00:27:33.340 He's done a lot of great stuff.
00:27:35.240 This is the most important book.
00:27:37.480 You want to understand what we're really up against and who our enemies really are.
00:27:43.320 Enough of this mamby pamby.
00:27:45.040 Oh, well, we just have to be nice to the rest of the world.
00:27:47.420 No, we will be nice to the rest of the world if they're not trying to destroy us.
00:27:53.520 And I want Peter to come back and take us through a lot of these statements from, you know,
00:27:59.940 like he just did with Scheinbaum from the government of Mexico, high ranking officials that are in charge,
00:28:07.760 the media as well, and also all the NGOs who is funding it.
00:28:13.660 What are they doing?
00:28:14.380 Before we put our next guest on, I leave her off for a sec because I don't want to put her in a situation where she has to comment on anything.
00:28:31.840 But you know how I feel about the Justice Department.
00:28:34.660 I feel like it hasn't been doing its job.
00:28:36.580 But there is one person there who is really kicking ass.
00:28:40.660 And it is Harmeet Dillon.
00:28:42.520 She is the assistant attorney general for civil rights.
00:28:46.500 And her division is moving rapidly.
00:28:51.140 And yesterday we saw in Minnesota these protesters come into a church.
00:28:57.560 This is a clear violation of the FACE Act.
00:29:00.040 This is what the FACE Act was made for.
00:29:02.740 And so I wanted to talk to Harmeet because she was on the phone yesterday.
00:29:05.980 She was working on this all day yesterday.
00:29:07.720 And I just want to hear where we are on it.
00:29:09.480 Harmeet, welcome to the program.
00:29:10.580 How are you?
00:29:11.860 I'm great.
00:29:12.620 Thanks for having me, Glenn.
00:29:14.440 You bet.
00:29:15.420 Listen, let's start with the FACE Act.
00:29:18.020 What happened yesterday, they say this is because, I guess, the pastor is also somebody that works with ICE or something.
00:29:27.900 Is that true?
00:29:29.800 I don't know if that's true or not.
00:29:31.240 But the pastor you saw on television calmly dealing with Don Lemon in his face is not.
00:29:38.720 I mean, he's the lead pastor.
00:29:40.040 And allegedly there's another pastor there who wasn't there on the scene yesterday.
00:29:44.480 I don't know anything about that.
00:29:45.820 We're investigating all of that.
00:29:47.480 But let me say, I was actually, you know, it's kind of a holiday weekend.
00:29:50.600 I was on a plane back from giving a speech in Florida when the attorney general reached out to me and alerted me to this situation.
00:29:57.400 So she's actually been engaged with this from the beginning.
00:29:59.860 And I immediately activated prosecutors and FBI agents to go to the scene and start investigating both the FACE Act as well as related criminal offenses.
00:30:09.540 That could include conspiracy charges, material support, and many others.
00:30:13.520 So we don't want to prejudge.
00:30:14.900 But I think it is fair to say that I saw multiple federal criminal incidents yesterday.
00:30:22.280 And there will be charges.
00:30:23.800 It's only a question of when can we get a judge to sign off on arrest warrants and exactly what the charges will be.
00:30:29.540 And those judges have to be in Minnesota, don't they?
00:30:31.760 They have to be federal judges in Minnesota, and I have to go in front of them, so I'm not going to, you know, say what is on my mind sometimes.
00:30:41.200 But let's just say that this isn't Texas and we aren't getting exactly rapid fire support for charges there on the PACE.
00:30:52.140 We would love it.
00:30:53.040 People need to understand that, that there could have been arrests yesterday if Keith Ellison, the attorney general of Minnesota, enforced his own laws and Mary Moriarty, the district attorney of Hennepin County, enforced her own laws.
00:31:09.540 Instead, we see Keith Ellison being interviewed by Don Lemon yesterday expressing his support for the victims of ICE.
00:31:18.700 So we know exactly nothing is going to happen over there.
00:31:20.820 So you have to understand the federal government has to jump through some additional hurdles.
00:31:24.920 It isn't our job to enforce state law.
00:31:27.120 And we're stepping in to do this here when the state refuses to enforce its own laws.
00:31:32.440 So I don't know if you have an opinion on this, but, you know, looking back at the Shays Rebellion, you know, at the beginning of our country, the laws in where was it?
00:31:42.320 New Hampshire.
00:31:42.760 I can't remember where it was, but the courts were not working.
00:31:47.920 Um, they, and they were being obstructed by people on the streets, but you couldn't get anything through the courts.
00:31:53.480 And this, the system just broke down.
00:31:55.940 And while it's not just the people on the streets, the court has been hijacked.
00:32:01.020 They are not following through on the law.
00:32:04.700 Um, the same with the, you know, the district attorney, uh, the attorney general, the governor.
00:32:09.540 So is this a case for the insurrection act?
00:32:16.600 Um, well, I think, I think I agree with the premise that law enforcement and law and order have broken down in Minnesota.
00:32:23.960 I mean, I'm personally doing the state over their breakdown of their voting rights laws.
00:32:29.680 I'm also investigating Mary Moriarty for systematic violations of racial discrimination in her plea agreements.
00:32:36.780 I am probably now given the inaction by local law enforcement on some other fronts, going to open up another investigation into the failures of the local police there to do their job or do it only selectively on the basis of race or politics.
00:32:50.720 And so it is a breakdown, but I mean, in terms of the insurrection act, I'm not an expert on that.
00:32:56.740 Um, I do think that you are seeing multiple incidents of violence.
00:33:00.220 And I do think that the attack on the church yesterday, thank God for the pastor who was so calm and the godly people inside that building.
00:33:09.240 It could very well have tipped into violence, uh, very quickly.
00:33:14.120 And that would have been regrettable.
00:33:16.380 But what are people supposed to do when, you know, the last place you should, the place of sanctuary, the house of God was invaded by these thugs.
00:33:25.400 And so I think that certainly some more law enforcement, whoever's doing it, would be most welcome in Minnesota.
00:33:37.880 It is, um, uh, it was disturbing to see them coming to the church and very frightening, quite honestly.
00:33:45.200 Um, and I just think Don Lemon is just one of the most irrelevant human beings on the planet.
00:33:51.760 Um, and, uh, you know, I would like to say, you know, I think of him as an irrelevant guy, but I actually don't ever think of him.
00:33:58.300 So it's even more irrelevant than that.
00:34:00.420 But I'm not sure if he was in violation unless he was part of it.
00:34:05.760 Is it, I mean, you wouldn't, do you go after the journalist that's reporting it or do you view him as something that was not just reporting it?
00:34:13.540 Okay. Well, I, I, I'm going to reserve comment on that specific fact pattern, but let's just take a hypothetical.
00:34:22.360 Okay. A hypothetical where a podcaster wants a news anchor is deciding that, um, he, he's, he's learning of a crime in progress.
00:34:33.740 It's a bank robbery. Okay. And he's friends with the bank robbers and he sympathizes with them because he agrees with what they're going to spend the money on.
00:34:41.260 So he, he, the bank robbers call him because they'd like some PR because they think what they're doing is great, whatever.
00:34:48.820 And you decide to go along and you know that the group of people you're with are breaking into a building and they're going to commit a crime inside.
00:34:57.820 And then you're going to stream it inside. Uh, that fact pattern is as much more dubious than how you put it.
00:35:03.040 Um, and so I think, I think, you know, we're, we're investigating our facts. Um, Mr. Lemon has put several hours of video on the internet yesterday saying a very, a variety of things.
00:35:16.860 Um, and I would, you know, if I, if I were his lawyer, I would probably say, you know, that, that, you know, maybe you should lawyer up before you do things like this.
00:35:26.520 Um, but yeah, I have to tell you, I just, I just have to, I just have to make an aside here or for anybody who doesn't know who Harmeet Dillon really is, that would have put the fear of God in me.
00:35:38.220 If I were Dodd Lemon and I heard Harmeet Dillon say that, I'd be like, holy cow, I'm going to prison because she does not mess around, but it's good.
00:35:47.760 You know, he did see some of my tweets and he responded to them yesterday in a video mispronouncing my name and laughing and saying, this is the first amendment people.
00:35:57.100 Um, look, the face, I have actually litigated this. I've represented, as you know, Glenn, a number of conservative journalists over the years, including flow, including pro-life journalists.
00:36:06.600 Uh, I will say as an aside, Kamala Harris had no problem prosecuting a pro-life journalist, David Delighton, for exposing Planned Parenthood's fetal part trafficking.
00:36:18.920 The United States Department of Justice under Merrick Garland had no problem prosecuting multiple January 6th protesters who had their cameras out and were filming and claimed journalistic privileges.
00:36:32.000 Exactly.
00:36:32.480 So I don't want to become, I don't want to become them, but I do, I do think he doesn't understand the first amendment.
00:36:40.100 Yeah.
00:36:40.780 You know, he doesn't understand the first amendment.
00:36:43.940 He has, he has videos out there literally saying, uh, you know, F ice and F all the way off, you know?
00:36:52.500 So there's no pretense of objectivity or what have you, but look, facts matter.
00:36:57.840 And we're going to take a look at the exact facts there, but gosh, he keeps talking and, and, and adding to the record.
00:37:03.660 And, and, and one of the organizers of this event, who he was outside kissing and bringing coffee to.
00:37:09.160 What is a lawyer, uh, a NAACP lawyer, a black lives matters, nonprofit lawyer.
00:37:17.000 Um, so, you know, the lawyer should have known better.
00:37:20.280 This is, you, you, you just cannot, it, a privately owned house of worship, house of God is not a public forum for protest in the United States.
00:37:31.860 It just isn't.
00:37:33.060 It's actually a violation of Minnesota law to do exactly what these thugs did.
00:37:37.860 And so, you know, we are just all over it.
00:37:40.960 There may be charges coming in different stages, but charges are coming.
00:37:45.660 Tell me, tell me about the investigation into Tim Walsh and Jacob Fry email sent out on Friday to all Minneapolis employees,
00:37:52.540 implying that they are working with protesters within the city to help them track ice operations.
00:37:57.600 Tell me about this investigation.
00:38:00.580 I only know it secondhand because my office is not the folks, uh, in charge of that.
00:38:06.820 That's the criminal, uh, division.
00:38:08.800 I believe Todd, uh, Blanche has commented about that publicly, but it is, it is not legal to conspire to, uh, evade federal law, a federal law enforcement or obstruct it that I will just leave it at that.
00:38:23.860 The, the governor saying he's going to put national guard into yellow vests.
00:38:28.960 Does, does that not indicate that, you know, violence is coming to ice and you want to make sure that people know that these guys are on your side.
00:38:40.380 So don't hit the guys in yellow.
00:38:42.820 I mean, violence is there.
00:38:44.660 Violence is in the city.
00:38:45.860 I mean, ice is being obstructed in the state from, from arresting sex offenders, child sex offenders.
00:38:53.200 These people are absolutely wink, wink, nudge, nudge signaling to the resistance in Minnesota that, uh, there's an us versus them mentality.
00:39:04.540 And it is okay to be against the police and against law enforcement, federal law enforcement and get in their way and get up in their face.
00:39:13.440 And frankly, I think it is, it is blood on their hands that people have already been injured and killed in Minnesota in this so-called struggle, uh, because people think this is a video game or something, you know, it isn't a video game.
00:39:28.920 This is real.
00:39:29.640 And when you threaten a law enforcement official, the test is an objective one.
00:39:34.280 Did the law enforcement official reasonably fear for their lives, given all the circumstances and all the circumstances right now are that state officials in Minnesota are effectively putting a target on the backs of federal law enforcement with their rhetoric, with their actions, and, uh, people are getting hurt.
00:39:55.220 Harmony, the, I did a monologue, I think last week and just went over the, just over the positions of power that had to have known or turned a blind eye to all of the corruption.
00:40:08.200 And it is extensive.
00:40:10.280 This is not about putting Somalis in jail.
00:40:12.440 This, I mean, it is an extensive list to make that happen.
00:40:16.860 Um, are you familiar with anything, how that investigation is going?
00:40:21.380 Are we going to see anybody held responsible for that?
00:40:24.380 Because there's a lot that need to be held responsible.
00:40:27.640 No, I agree.
00:40:28.620 But listen, let's talk about the timeline here.
00:40:31.020 And this, this DOJ has continued a number of investigations and secured 62 prosecutions so far, convictions, I should say.
00:40:39.540 There are other ongoing prosecutions going up.
00:40:42.180 And what you do typically in federal law enforcement, even state law enforcement, is you get the lower level criminals and then you go up the food chain.
00:40:49.100 So when there's plea agreements with these people, they have a requirement typically to cooperate with federal law enforcement.
00:40:55.200 And I can assure you that you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
00:40:58.060 Uh, so the, the, the, the, the rhetoric out there from, you know, my allies who are like, oh, nothing is happening.
00:41:05.140 There'll be no arrests, LOL.
00:41:06.820 That's not true or fair.
00:41:08.140 Uh, this DOJ has actually, first of all, sticking to the attacks on houses of worship.
00:41:13.920 We in the civil rights division under Pam Bondi's leadership have convicted numerous people for attacks on Christian houses of worship, on beheading a statue of a Mary and, and, and, um, baby Jesus.
00:41:25.840 And, uh, thwarted several attacks and on the Minnesota fraud front, numerous convictions, numerous investigations.
00:41:34.600 Now we're dealing with this, um, and it's, it's a target rich environment.
00:41:39.500 And we're dealing with frankly, some judges on the bench who slow, who slow roll signing arrest warrants, who don't agree with the politics and who don't frankly agree with federal law.
00:41:53.180 And so we have to then get wrong rulings and then go to the court of appeals and get those corrected.
00:41:58.420 It's just a process.
00:41:59.280 And I know people are impatient and they think, you know, they want to see arrests every day.
00:42:03.720 Keith Ellison and his team could have arrested people yesterday and they didn't.
00:42:08.520 And we all know they won't.
00:42:09.600 So we're stepping in to do it.
00:42:11.040 I literally flew two prosecutors from my office after talking with the attorney general yesterday.
00:42:15.940 She's a hundred percent behind this.
00:42:18.140 We spoke to the pastor yesterday.
00:42:19.760 We praised him for his calm.
00:42:21.640 We gave him some reassurances and his congregation asked them if they needed any support.
00:42:26.440 They're victims of a crime.
00:42:27.920 They're victims of several crimes.
00:42:29.920 And, and we will not let this happen to another church in the United States.
00:42:34.020 It is, it is, it is, it is un-American, unacceptable.
00:42:37.320 And there is a zero tolerance policy for it at this DOJ.
00:42:41.300 Harmeet, as always, thank you very much.
00:42:43.960 Harmeet Dillon.
00:42:44.760 She is the DOJ's assistant attorney general for civil rights.
00:42:48.160 Her division is kicking ass and taking names.
00:42:51.940 Harmeet Dillon.
00:42:53.060 I mean, Don, you should probably learn who she is before you make fun of her.
00:42:57.840 Because it could go dicey.
00:43:00.980 Sounds like it could get dicey for you.
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