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Coronavirus is back in the news! President Trump has activated the National Guard, the CDC has confirmed 582 confirmed cases, and the death toll from coronavirus stands at 582. We talk to people who have actually experienced the illness, and those who have potential treatment options, and we talk to a man who has been quarantined for a long time.
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welcome to the podcast have a great show for you today uh some interesting things about coronavirus
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uh who's handling it well is andrew cuomo really handling this well some people seem to think so
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i don't really see it to be honest with you uh we also have two people who actually had
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or have coronavirus one is still in the hospital and one has taken the uh drugs uh that have been
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showing some promise and that uh president trump discussed at his press conference the other day
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do we have a possible treatment here we're hopeful and we talked to people who have actually
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experienced uh not only the illness but also the potential treatment and phil robertson uh joins us
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to tell us about his new uh show in the quarantine with phil he's been quarantining himself for a very
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long time and he's completely um not really even adjusting his life at this point uh he'll get into
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that as well on today's program also encourage you to go over to uh stew does america on your
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podcast app click subscribe it would make me happy probably cures coronavirus though that's not exactly
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proven yet so i appreciate you doing that we've got a new show coming up uh tonight looking at some of
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the comments from james cliburn and how he wants to never let this crisis go to waste it's coming up
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and stew does america as well and here's the podcast
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you're listening to the best of the blend back program
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all right so let's get our coronavirus update all the numbers are from johns hopkins as of 5 30 a.m
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central time total confirmed cases worldwide 392 000 that's up about 50 000 from yesterday
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total confirmed deaths worldwide are up uh 3 000 to 17 000 total confirmed recovered is only up 3 000
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itself all 195 countries on earth have confirmed cases the only place in the world you can go is
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hanging with the penguins in antarctica no confirmed cases there five percent of active cases worldwide are
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considered serious requiring hospitalization that's steady five percent yesterday uh it was at five
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percent but it was down in february from 19 i want to make a note here 13 of the confirmed cases
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in america do currently require hospitalization but that number is expected to drop toward the
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international average as more people are diagnosed through the testing the u.s now has 46 168 confirmed
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cases and 582 deaths we are up almost 10 000 confirmed cases and about 130 deaths in the last 24 hours
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the u.s has 295 officially recovered against the 582 official deaths
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so somehow or another uh joe biden realized yesterday that it wasn't 1997 anymore and decided
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to get some of that high speed internet into my recreation room that's a quote in my recreation
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he still has a rec room i haven't seen one of those since the brady bunch went off the air
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anyway is making his teleconferencing uh in his rec room on this new high speed internet that the kids
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are all crazy about so he made uh he's gonna make regular broadcasts combating coronavirus um he made
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yesterday's from his home in delaware and it did not go well at all do we have a little clip of that
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here he is the teleprompter broke down and he did not know what to do i'm glad the president has finally activated the national guard
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now we need the armed forces and the national guard to help with hospital capacity supplies and logistics
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we need to activate the reserve corps of doctors and nurses and beef up the number of responders dealing with
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the crush these crush of cases and uh and in addition to that uh in addition to that we have to
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uh make sure that we uh we are in a position that we are well let me let me go the second thing i've spoken
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enough of that the president must use defense production wow okay so uh that was his press conference
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comforting uh wish he was in charge right now uh but he says you know now we got to use the military
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well yesterday a thousand strong military unit arrived at the javits center in new york city
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wow yeah but we need the military to start building hospitals well that's exactly what they were doing
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turning the javits convention convention center into a thousand bed emergency hospital it'll be the
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first of four emergency hospitals in new york state they should be open within seven days dozens of
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national card troops have arrived at the jacob javits center in manhattan monday morning
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president trump um approved governor cuomo's plans to set up the beds in the 1.3 million square foot
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convention center on sunday night fema will oversee the facility as well as the staff and stock the
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center is there no more free travel in the u.s florida's governor desantis is ordering all inbound
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travelers arriving from new york or new jersey into a mandatory 14-day quarantine per an executive order
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that he signed yesterday desantis said in an address that more than a hundred such flights arrive daily
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into the state he believes each contains at least one person infected with the new coronavirus he said
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he's been in contact with federal officials about curtailing such flights but he has not yet received a
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response he said people will be screened when they arrived and told they must self-quarantine he said
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those travelers will not be allowed to stay with family or friends because that is the one way the
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virus is spread he didn't say specifically how self-quarantine is going to be enforced he said it
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may actually i'm quoting be a criminal offense if you violate the quarantine order florida law says
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it's a second degree misdemeanor to violate a quarantine order that could result in a 60-day jail sentence
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notice he didn't have a problem when all of the kids were on the beaches for spring break that was
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an obscene scene uh at the time and all the kids were like oh we're not gonna get it's fine they're all
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now testing positive for it new video from spain shows the hospital triage people are on the floor in
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the hallways just waiting for a bed videos appear to show dozens of patients some covered in sheets
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most wearing surgical masks laying on the floor in hospital hallways as they await for some bed
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to somehow or another become available it's one of the largest hospitals in madrid spain had 385 deaths
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and more than 4 500 new cases diagnosed just yesterday it has more than 850 infected persons
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for every 1 million citizens that's the third highest in the world after italy and switzerland
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but perhaps echoing spain's rapidly outgrowing outbreak the big easy now is being criticized for
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not shutting down mardi gras celebrations and parades and parties over the warnings of local and national
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health officials against those large gatherings which came as early as february 8th in the u.s
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louisiana governor john bell edwards says his state now has the fastest growing cases of covid 19
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in the world citing statistics from a university louisiana lafayette study
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edwards said the growth rate of the state is headed for a steep upward trajectory similar to what spain
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and italy have experienced he said louisiana has the third highest number of cases per capita
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in the u.s behind new york and washington respectively but the rate of growth per capita exceeds
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any single hot spot in the world you know if it was gonna if it was gonna break out i mean you would
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think vegas or new orleans i mean there's something in the water down in new orleans edwards announced a
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stay-at-home ban for his state that will come into effect on monday at 5 p.m excluding citizens leaving
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home for essential services there's no word on whether the state's uh 1200 uh drive-through margarita stands
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are exempt from the order but i think anything that limits alcohol at this time is not a good thing
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uh nobel prize winner doom and gloom forecasts are likely overdone this one comes from dr michael levitt
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who is credited for correctly calling early that china would get the worst of its devastating outbreak
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long before many other health experts predicted they would on january 31st china had 46 new deaths
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compared with 42 the day before which levitt recognized as a slowing of the rate of growth
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this suggests the rate of increase in the number of deaths will slow down even more over the next week
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levitt won the 2013 nobel prize in chemistry yeah but they give those away like candy now
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and he ultimately nailed the call listen to this i mean you want a prediction that comes right
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in mid-february he said there would be a mid-february peak with a total tally of eight
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80 000 cases and 3 250 deaths as of march 16th china had counted a total of 80 298 deaths
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so close without going over and he said there would be 3 250 there are 3 245 deaths
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the 80 000 was almost 1.4 billion yeah 80 000 was the total cases right you said deaths it was 80
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total cases yeah i know yeah yeah sorry 80 000 cases he said there would be 80 000 they had 80 298
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and he said there'd be uh 32 50 on deaths there's 32 45 i mean that guy can we talk to him i mean i would
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like to yeah that's incredible talk to him and he's optimistic too which is pretty rare these days from
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the experts yeah and maybe this is a guy we should listen to maybe this is just a guy that we should
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listen to uh now we said we would never go for it here in america but we are
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what was the thing that you thought was just so disturbing that they did stew in china
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uh well they were besides welding people in you have welding people into apartments came to mind
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right away um there was something they were doing that we all said we'd never put up with it the
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massive surveillance uh state that they constructed around um pretty much everyone there
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to the point where they were i mean they were going they were giving reporters qr codes to have
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to scan and to every building they were going into so that they could be tracked they were being
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tracked by drones they were uh being uh surveilled in every part of their internet access um not to
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mention the million people or so they threw in a camp which is a totally unrelated incident but also
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problematic so the chula vista police department in california
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recently doubled its fleet of drones purchasing two of the machines from a chinese company called dji
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the police department told the financial times that they would be outfitted with night vision cameras
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we have not traditionally mounted speakers to our drones but if we need to cover a large area to get an
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announcement out and if there's a crowd somewhere that we need to disperse we could do it without
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getting police officers involved the outbreak has changed my view of expanding the program i think we
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need to expand it as rapidly as i can said the captain u.s officials have warned about the threat of
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chinese-made drones that they could pose a threat to the united states the company that the police
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department is purchasing from dji is the world's largest player in the civilian drone industry
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but dji is based in canada spencer gore the chief executive of the u.s-based drone company impossible
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aerospace said he is working like crazy to help equip other law enforcement agencies with drones
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we just can't keep up with the orders from law enforcement agencies and health departments
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so how do we feel about that one how are we feeling about drones and our police department using drones
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sub-optimal would be uh the first thing that came to mind uh not not the optimal sub that optimal um
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that is uh i mean i guess like you could make the argument in in a case of you know where everyone's
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supposed to stay away from each other to break up a crowd if it floats over with a speaker it's maybe not
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that bad i mean i know they've done that in in crowd breakup situations before but it sends a
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pretty creepy message and uh yeah not in love with it not in love with it yeah yeah remember remember
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stew we were at cnn and we said that there were drones being used on the southern border or the
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northern border i can't remember which one it was i think it was on the northern border and they were
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being used for drug trade uh up on the northern border and people went ballistic they went crazy
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and it was it was on the border looking for drug people we don't do that we don't do that we don't
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use drones i remember just shaking my head thinking oh we will and soon you won't have a problem with it
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and here we are here we are this is going to change everything um tomorrow night we're going to show you
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the things that are hidden uh from you the plans that are being made the plans that are being drawn
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and the things for instance uh they are trying to pass in this uh in this new stimulus bill
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it's terrifying and the power is never coming back to you we have to stay vigilant if we are to keep
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america and uh keep the country that we all know and love that's tomorrow night at 9 p.m
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eastern time you don't want to miss it it's our wednesday night special it's uh it's a it's a
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special on the government being more dangerous than the virus and uh i think every american needs to
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watch it that's live tomorrow night 9 p.m eastern on blaze tv.com use the promo code glenn blaze tv.com
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promo code glenn and you will save 10 this is the best of the glennbeck program
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this is the glennbeck program welcome to the one and only mr pat gray from pat gray unleashed
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pat i i don't know if you've seen the very very the very very uh talented and riveting joe biden in
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his latest uh video from home uh but i'd like to play it here here's here's joe biden in his uh in
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his little podcast room in his home i'm glad the president has finally activated the national guard
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now we need the armed forces and the national guard to help with hospital capacity supplies and
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logistics we need to activate the reserve corps of doctors and nurses and beef up the number of
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responders dealing with the crush these crush of cases and uh and in addition to that uh in addition
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to that we have to make sure that we uh we are in a position that we are well let me let me go to the
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second thing okay yeah go to the second thing the president must use the best production act
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i mean he is out of it so bad he's out of it i mean why would you let him do this live why just claim
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it's live just tape it tape it 50 times until you get one right okay and then air it does he not have
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one single advisor with common sense seriously that's so bad he's just negligent something
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something something happens with the prompter and he just cannot continue and he's like
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time for medicine mommy i don't i tend to think that the advisors that he has around him are
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absolutely smart enough to be telling him this has got to be recorded let's do it recorded and i think
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he's fighting it off no no come on now i've been doing this for 30 years it must be i think that's
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what it is gotta because it's too common you know it's you know like we saw the uh the advisor with
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him walking through the crowd when he was getting that argument she obviously was like you got to get
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out of this this is a terrible moment everyone's seeing this on camera and joe's like shh like he's
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right he thinks he still has it and he's trying to hold on to it and all of his advisors i think
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probably know but they can't stop him yeah it's ugly okay so wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute
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wait a minute what do you think that maybe his advisor is andrew cuomo
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just saying andrew cuomo why i'm convinced that andrew cuomo is it wants to be the president
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and i got the right cuomo right yes not the tv cuomo sorry not fredo you're talking about who's dead
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the governor of new york i'm talking about the governor i think he i think that's everybody's
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gonna say look he's completely out of control and cuomo's gonna come through this because he's
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already wearing the tight-fitting you know governor t-shirt like i'm i'm in the war room right now look
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at me i'm doing all these things i was just out building some houses for the homeless and decided
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to come in here and do this too i mean he's i think he's horrible but he's better than joe biden
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and i keep thinking this is the guy who's gonna come in at the end that's it that's an interesting
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one because i think objectively the only reason people think cuomo is doing a good job is because
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he's doing a better job than de blasio who's a complete disaster but i mean this is there he's in
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the middle of overseeing the biggest disaster of this entire crisis yeah and he was the one saying
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we're not going to shut it down that's crazy that's not going to happen and two days later shut
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it down i i don't see why anyone thinks he's doing a competent job here yeah he told because he can
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because he can blame the president although he's not doing that no he's actually praising the president
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which is i don't know the whole thing's really weird because he he made a big deal out of the fact
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that he was talking to his business buddy uh and his business buddy was all freaked out that the rumor
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was he was going to shut down new york oh no we're not going to do that like you said and then they
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did it wait you just bragged about the fact you're not going to do it now you've done it
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uh and your numbers have increased in about a week and a half from around a thousand to twenty three
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thousand so about half the cases in the country yeah it's bad it's really bad it's bad uh you know
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let me let me ask you this have you guys seen um go to shoot where was that um here it is go to the
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website do you have your do you have your ipad with you or anything i don't pat go to covid
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act now.org covid act now.org this is uh why your state must act now and it's giving you
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a prediction or not a prediction it's a a model a predictive model to see the projections for your
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state on when your health care you know system is going to be overwhelmed and if you go to new york
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let me just go to new york you click on that you will see that with limited action
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hospitals are expected to peak at about april 12th and we are just barely there i mean it's almost a
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straight line up from april 1st until the 12th just overwhelming the hospital but they have they are
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they doing social distancing and and they just closed everybody in right yeah they want you full
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shutdown basically yeah right so they peak at around april 20th now here's the interesting part
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go to texas if you go to texas where we're at and really nothing seems to be happening here
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um you are peaking uh two weeks later april 28th but if you look down at the the number of dead
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with no action in just texas they say estimated deaths 583 000 three months of social distancing
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430 000 three months of shelter in place 5 000 yeah now where are they getting these numbers three
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months of social distancing 430 000 where else are we seeing that kind of death yeah and you know where
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because you could say we're early on in this process obviously we've seen places like italy that
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have blown up but not like this you've seen but like not like that we see like for example you could
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project new york turning into a real mega disaster right now although those numbers seem completely
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ridiculous to me but the other thing is we've seen washington uh have a real the early big blow up
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and then not turn into a mega disaster right it seems to have recovered a little bit now they did
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it was sort of cordoned off in that one nursing home at the beginning so maybe that was that's the way
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out of it but this is what i find so interesting about this and why the only reason i have any hope
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that this could potentially have some sort of like logical resolution is that it's unlike a global warming
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where they say if we don't act now everything's going to go terrible and every year that goes by
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where it's not terrible they just say it's more years down the road it's it's 10 years from now it's
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always 10 years from now this is like two weeks three weeks yeah so like we'll know really soon yeah we
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can well you should know what's the date today uh the date today is march 24th march 24th okay so in
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three days in new york if they took no action in three days the hospitals should be overloaded
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in three months of social distancing the hospitals should be overloaded by april 3rd
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so you know they didn't do the three months of shelter in place so it's got to be by april 7th
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which is what next tuesday wednesday and if that growth is as extreme as they say over the next
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few weeks we're going to have multiple examples of completely out of control situations if we don't
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have that uh then we have to realize that somewhere in their projections it's just not right um and you
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know that is going to i think change the way that we handle this yeah we have 786 people in texas
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with the virus right now 786 look at this no action in the state of new york this is new york city where
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everyone's living on top of each other um no action estimated death 392 000 three months of social
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distancing 292 now go back to texas let's look at texas uh three months of social distancing
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is 430 000 deaths no action 583 that's not possible it's just not possible that makes no
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sense whatsoever and the cdc's estimates of doing nothing the high end number they came up with was
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2.2 million dead so this is way more than this we're talking about two states we're already at a
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million right i mean if you added up all these states it would be much much higher than what the
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cdc believed uh was possible and i believe the the london uh university that has been you know
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giving out a lot of the scarier sort of models you know i don't know it doesn't seem i don't know
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pat do you feel that i i not at all i go back and forth on this a lot i don't know admittedly but like
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it's i know i never get to this situation but you listen to some of these experts and they're like
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so confident and you you could tell the difference between an al gore and these guys these guys are
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saying like look in two weeks we're going to wish we completely shut off society okay al gore is
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like in 40 years there's going to be like how can you can't even judge those things i'll be cannibals
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in 38 years and then 38 years pass well that's because of some of the actions i took right it's
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going to be another six years and they just keep pushing it back exactly but this is like you can't
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do it it's too immediate there we're going to be you know gavin newsom said in eight weeks 26
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million people just in california are going to have this there's a way that's going to happen if that
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happens we're going to we're going to be happy to shut down society right yes you're not going to
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have an argument this is why i think yeah this is why i think the president said yesterday it's not
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going to be months it's not going to be months i don't think he bought these projections
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from the beginning i really don't i don't either i think but he but he was surrounded by a bunch of
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people who are experts you know he's just thinking he's the doctor himself no nope i don't think he
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bought into this at all and uh but all of the experts said mr president and now he's seeing well
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wait a minute he's seeing numbers like this and going well hang on just a sec where else are we seeing
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this i mean mexico what's happening to mexico mexico they're still there they're practically
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having a lick your face marathon in in mexico right now oh yeah and and it's not overrunning
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in mexico now it may come yet but i think this is why the president said yesterday it's not going to
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be months he's betting on his gut it's not going to be months and but we'll reevaluate maybe it is
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and he's looking to next week and if these numbers in new york and california aren't starting to pile up
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as they were predicted i think he's going to start taking the economy and opening it up because i have
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news for you as a guy who's in the target range pat you're in the target range you know in in italy
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they're saying if you're 60 don't even bother coming into the hospital we can't save you um we're
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too overrun well i got news for you if it is my children have an america left and i have to go in
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and work with a bunch of 60 year olds uh just to keep this economy going and we're working while
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they're sheltered in place i'll do it i mean i'd rather die than have the nation die for my children
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absolutely and i think the one unacceptable variable in all this to americans is if netflix
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slows down their streaming speeds if that happens all bets are off they're already saying it we are
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all bets are off they're already saying oh wait wait don't panic let's watch those numbers when we
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see those speeds start to come down then then we'll let you know then we riot projections are already
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saying they're gonna go to standard definition this is the best of the glenn beck program
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itunes thanks hunter howard tested positive for coronavirus he was he's a 50 year old man he's a guy
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lives in dallas he came home from aspen uh early in the month and he got a low-grade fever
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turned into a dry cough led to headaches all of the signs and he was diagnosed with coronavirus
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we go to hunter now hi hunter how are you i'm doing great glenn uh feeling much better thank you
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very much i'm glad to hear it so are you're a relatively healthy guy you you were out skiing and
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you don't have any real underlying health problems right that's exactly right i didn't have any um
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pulmonary issues i don't have any immune suppression issues so you know i had about five days of you
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know it it was a very very bad flu um but it was you know it kept me down and if i didn't know what
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the symptoms were to be looking for them to understand kind of what restriction to my lungs
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the difficulty breathing you know i would have thought it was the flu but you know because of the
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timing of it i realized with the difficulty breathing that there was something a lot different going on
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um really the scariest part was the unknown though the unknown of you know how much worse it might
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get at the end of the day it wasn't that bad but as my breathing got worse as the doctor said stay
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away from the hospital unless you need icu breathing support uh then we'll help you and so then just you
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know just trying to think through okay when is when is that mark going to happen we're going to need
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some more support from here uh from an icu ventilator yeah and did they give you did they give you any
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did they give you any indication on yeah here's when you need that breathing apparatus or did they
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just trust that you would know i don't think they knew to be honest with you you know i think that
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they just knew that they didn't have the uh the ventilators or the beds to kind of support people
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coming in and that i was really you know supposed to know on when i needed that and so really zero
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guidelines to what that point might be and so you know at one point i woke up and i was just heard
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my lungs working like it was like my lungs were paper bags just crackling and bubbling as uh they
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were just you know there's a lot of effort to breathe but um then i frankly for me i was told
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the doctors take 1600 milligrams of tylenol um you know not ibuprofen and i took i just had 2000 around
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so i took that and to cut the fever and i've been really doing better every day since then so that was
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about uh that was last saturday and it's been uh kind of uphill or a downhill yeah so how how long
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did you have it first take me through the what's the first sign and when did you go holy crap i might
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have coronavirus it was about three or four days i'm not sure exactly when i caught it in aspen but
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i think it was a breeding ground in aspen that weekend unfortunately and so it was about three or
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four days before i started the low grade fever and the headaches and then that was then day five was
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kind of really intensifying uh um the fever got really bad the um fever got bad the uh the body
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aches got really bad uh and i knew something else was going on that's when i got really the restricted
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breathing there's like a strap around my chest it was just making difficult to breathe and so that was
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about three or four days of the intense uh difficulties and then it the fever cut inside
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i feel very lucky though you know everything i'm reading i'm in healthcare world and so i have a
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telemedicine company and so i had access to physicians and people to help me out to help
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but even then you know they didn't know either we're we're learning day by day on this
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so you're you're a telemedicine guy exactly and so we've been providing a lot of support to people
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to understand this yeah this is i don't think most people understand when you know i i've been
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saying recently to talk about redesigning the entire healthcare system now is like saying we've
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got to redesign the entire horse and buggy industry in 1920 it's it's over uh and just telemedicine and
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the way things are going to change it's going to relieve so much uh and this is really the time
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where telemedicine can really uh show off and you could accelerate that quickly because it's so good
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you're exactly right about that there's a couple of pain points that we saw a couple years ago about
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just getting access to the right type of specialist 88 of the country is medically underserved for basic
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care let alone access to specialists so that's what we've been focusing on and then you know i'd like
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to give a lot of credit to cms and the administration right now they have lowered a lot of the restrictions
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around telemedicine over the past couple weeks where they had very strict guidelines on state by
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state regulations state licenses uh certain things you can and can't do and they said in the short term
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we're going to drop all of those and we're going to allow people to get access to the care that they
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need uh you know during this process and we're not going to worry about regulations that might have
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been burdensome so you know a lot of credit goes to the administration cms and um you know really
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kind of our you know the federal people who are kind of just dropping those to make sure people
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get in the care that they need it's been amazing how quickly they're moving we're talking to hunter
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howard he's a dallas resident uh with confirmed uh covid19 so when you were diagnosed did you go to
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the hospital or how did they diagnose you yeah so i was lucky to understand how the system works a
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little bit and when i started learning about my symptoms uh there was nothing set up in town in fact
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dallas at that point only had 42 testing units per day to give out and they told me we're only going
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to give you one of these testing units um if you are needing you know ventilator support in an icu right
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now that was on thursday or friday and then over the weekend um baylor scott and wine had set up a
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um the hospital system had set up a mobile unit uh in dallas and so by then they had more testing units
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that were coming into town so i was able to get access to those units and get referred so i was
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referred by my physician uh into that system it was really about 20 minutes and just you know
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there are four nurses out there i want to give my absolute hats off to our our first line of the
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nurses and health care responders who are putting themselves in harm's way so they were just so kind
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and and just really it was about 15-20 minutes to go through there it was a
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about a three inch long uh swab that they kind of uh stuck into my nasal cavity which it felt like
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they're trying to swab my thing to be honest with you it was but it was um it was what needed to be
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done and i found that out a day later by my doctor and then i got a call by dallas county health and
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got a caseworker assigned to me and it's really amazing how quickly uh our community stepped up to
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be organized around this so if you had to do it all over again what what should we fix what was lacking
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you know the most important thing is lacking right now is just kind of access to the beds the
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ventilators the masks and things like that i was on a call last night with dallas business leaders
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and what we're talking about is moving from a population mitigation strategy to a case-based
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intervention strategy what i mean by that is um in the short term as we're learning you know about
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the this incredible curve of how many people are getting sick so rapidly and how easy how contagious
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this is we're having to employ population mitigation strategies they're really you know very very severe
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but that's a necessary strategy just to control the um community transition uh you know transmissions
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but what we're trying to do we're talking about okay is instead of it being everything being guided by the
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uh the health care leaders who are just looking at um the number of cases that are being trends
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you know transmitted and just looking at those numbers what do we what can we do in dallas
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to make sure that we're caring for every man woman and child and so that's really kind of
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shift from once you get a control of the transmission to the community and instead of only having a
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population mitigation strategy but what do we have to do to build more hospital beds what do we have
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to do to get more ventilators in town what do we have to do to get more tests in town
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and so we're actually a pretty amazing group of um kind of business leaders in dallas coming
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together saying what does the city need to support that what do we need to do um to help you you know
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do you need locations you need beds you need rooms uh do you need you know do we need to convert
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some more businesses to converting ventilators and so we're working with the city of dallas and the
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state of texas and figuring out how can we support the community so that we can start moving from
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you know transition from distance population mitigation strategies to um shifting into a
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case-based intervention once we know that we've got a control over um that we can put a you know
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every single you know person that gets sick in a bed in a ventilator that's needed and things like
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that and that's some of this the conversations that the business leaders in dallas are hoping we
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can kind of move towards a combination of the population mitigation and we've got this dallas has
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got this they've got our support from the business leaders and we're going to give them
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whatever they need to make sure that we can control this um you know medically so hunter
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were you a believer in this was as bad as they say it was when you went up to vale
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no i'll be honest with you i um going for a friend's 50th birthday and uh at that point
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there's a little bit of information that was coming out about about it but it was still
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you know really mostly was happening over in italy and china at that point and i you know had it
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and i i had a kid um a mask that had an led lighting on it i gave a video with my friends of me in the
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air and the airplane with a led uh lit um mask and we're kind of making a joke out of it at that
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point and we knew it was serious we knew they had to go to other places um but it didn't not you
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well i had the case i had the mask but it was we we didn't realize how serious it was going to get
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this quickly yeah that's what i meant that you didn't think it would happen to you um the um
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uh are you convinced that we are going to see these astronomical numbers that the cdc is talking
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about now uh so that really comes into the population mitigation strategies and you know
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in certain cities it's out there and we're working on two-week trailing indicators right with the
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testing and so uh so what we're seeing today with the numbers or what happened probably about 10
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days ago so the numbers are are growing up and you know more importantly right now is
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you know what are the you know how is the chloroquine working so i have friends uh in the new york city
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healthcare system and from what i am hearing anecdotally uh it is working miraculously well so we have a guy
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coming on in in 10 minutes and he says i mean he said goodbye to his family everything the doctors
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gave him the hydrochloroquine uh and he said two days later he's fully back um and he credits that
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but the press and everyone no one is willing to say that this is even a possibility at this point and i
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don't understand why this this is an old drug you know as long as it's under supervision uh and
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you know we're we're doing it in the right way with doctor's supervision i don't understand why
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more people in the press aren't excited about the possibility of this drug
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glenn i'm hearing from the health care workers in new york city they're you know from the er that it's
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working it's absolutely working right now and so it's still a little bit anecdotal anecdotal versus
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evidence-based we don't have a lot of the data around it um but it's it's working is what i'm hearing
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from frontline um health care providers you know they're in that we should be making that stuff
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day and night we should be making that stuff day and night all right thank you so much hunter i'm
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i'm glad that you're uh feeling better and thanks for your service to the community i appreciate it