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On today's episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn takes on a CNN article and takes it down in epic form based on the facts. Glenn takes down the idea that slavery was a major source of wealth during the founding of the United States, and argues that it was actually the opposite.
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holy cow what a great podcast for you today uh in hour number one i just take apart the um cnn
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incredible uh opinion or they called it news uh that america's churches have just become
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white nationalist churches um it's part two of that i take it down in epic form based all on
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the facts and you can get all those facts at glennbeck.com there's also a story that i think
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you can get on this with all the footnotes all of the footnotes um you can nine pages of footnotes
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amazing things and shoot straight jack carr if you don't know he is the uh thriller author uh and he
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wrote the terminalist the the uh the series that is on now uh on amazon.com and carol roth talks
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thank you from the hymnals now everybody sing along send us thine asteroid oh lord
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just like you did just like you did for dinosaurs destroy mankind with meaty horse
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we praise thee oh almighty god now bury us into the sun
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and now from the scriptures according to glenn i want to share with you if i might what cnn is saying but cnn is saying that we are just a white christian america
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yeah lasted decades and decades and decades here it was stopped and it only lasted about 18 months
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why is that a christian minister yes pointed out hey you're reading the bible incorrectly
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and then increased mather he was instrumental in stopping the salem witch trials he's like
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i don't think we should use any of this magic stuff maybe we should go back and look at you know uh
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in the uh there has to be a witness of three or more and you have to have actual facts and evidence
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you know like the bible says ministers and religious leaders also led the charge against
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slavery they were using in the south they were they were using the bible to say we can have slaves
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yes an incorrect understanding of the gospel of jesus christ and there are many examples so let's
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go to the second claim america's wealth was derived from slave labor yes that's right you know who
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used to say that a lot our great fine fine president old jefferson davis yeah old jeff used to say that
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all the time america's wealth is derived from slave labor we can't have an america without slavery
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unfortunately that's not true jeff davis go go go go i think he might have been drinking the contention
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that slavery constituted a major source of wealth during the founding of america is entirely erroneous
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and a little more than a gross regurgitation of old pro-slavery confederate propaganda
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the importation of slaves in north america did not become substantial until more than a century
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after its initial founding no more than 5 000 slaves were disembarked in any year until 1727
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when it began to substantially increase it was well after the christian founding by the way does
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anybody know that if new england would have been considered a country and not england in new england
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would have been considered um the first country in the world 50 years ahead of everybody else
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of abolishing slavery yeah new england did that abolished slavery 50 years before anyone else did
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anybody know that our pilgrims actually because of a storm had a slave ship wash up upon their store
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their shores but the bible calls that to man stealing and when they boarded the ship and realized that it
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was a slave ship they arrested the captain and the crew then they took a a collection i'm passing around
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the collection plate give until it hurts pilgrims and they did and you know they use that money for
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huh it's crazy they use that money to uh gain the passage on that ship with a new crew back to africa
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huh that's weird significantly slavery impoverished the areas which practiced it in comparison to
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those parts of the country which did not let me give you alex de tocqueville he noted that the colonies
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in which there was no slaves became more populous and more prosperous than those in which slavery flourished
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de tocqueville's uh observations are confirmed by the facts of economic history but why care about that
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we're we're so busy redefining history and economics i don't think we're actually in a recession
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the story of the south is one of stagnation and increasingly falling behind the rest of the nation
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aside from the few owners of large plantations the people of the south were generally more impoverished
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than the people in the north at the time of the revolutionary war the south had been
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the wealthier region by far but their reliance upon slavery sapped the strength out of the region
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as economic historians from harvard and uc davis explained when they were sane from 1774 and 1860
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the per annum growth rates for new england 1.26 percent the middle atlantic 1.08 percent and the south's
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0.31 percent by 1860 the real product per capita in the south was 40 points behind new england
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a harvard economic study identified that even today there exists a significant negative relationship
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between past slave use and current economic performance in fact all forms of slavery were
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detrimental to economic development but cnn why take it from harvard you know as early as 1793 major
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figures such as nor webster pointed out in no particular um in no particular uh are the deplorable
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effects of slavery more visible than in checking the destroying of national industry and productivity
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wherever we turn our eyes to view the comparative effects of freedom and slavery on agriculture arts
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commerce science the mind is deeply affected at the astonishing contrast to labor solely for the
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benefit of other man is repugnant to every principle of the human heart third and i love this one
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america's land was stolen from the native americans ministers and religious communities were at the
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forefront in treating native tribes with respect and honoring land deals yes cnn it's true the religious
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pilgrims strictly only occupied land lawfully purchased this land was bought at a price agreed upon by the
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native tribes in founding plymouth in 1620 at the start of king philip's war in 1675 plymouth governor joshua
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winslow explained i think i can clearly say that before these present troubles broke out the english did not
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possess one foot of land in this colony that was uh that was uh not fairly obtained by honest purchase of the
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indian proprietors reverend roger williams lawfully purchased the land at a price agreed upon by the native
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tribes in order to found uh rhode island in 1636 reverend john davenport lawfully purchased the land at a price
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agreed upon by the native tribes in order to found new haven in 1637 in founding pennsylvania and this is an
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incredible stat i net i had never heard before william penn as in pennsylvania purchased the land from the indians
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but there was a problem when they purchased the land from one tribe the other tribe said well but they stole
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it from us we're the actual owners and so he purchased it again from a second tribe and then a third tribe
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came in and said yeah but they stole it from us parts of pennsylvania william penn bought three separate
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times just to make sure he had secured a clear title from each tribe that claimed it had been stolen from
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them by another indian tribe remember the 1888 wall map of jamestown versus the pilgrims i showed this to
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you on a couple of tv shows and i've talked about it on radio um throughout the northeast and most of
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early america the land was purchased by the colonists in the south it was different but because the land
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was bought the longest lasting treaty in american history between whites and indians was the treaty
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between the pilgrims and the indians and who broke that treaty yes yes the indians if you look at that
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map i showed you it shows jamestown is founded on slavery it becomes an absolute nightmare and everything
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goes sour from there this is the same argument that we had before the civil war were we a country
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founded in slavery with jamestown or are we a christian nation that come from the pilgrims
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that tried to do the things right well guess which one i think we are and guess which one i think we
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should be white christian nationalists they say cnn belief number two a belief in a warrior christ
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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let me go to michael malice who i think abraham lincoln saw uh coming long long time ago with malice
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toward none and uh that makes me a little nervous that he's on the program but i like him anyway
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he is the uh host of your welcome a great podcast the author of the anarchist handbook
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michael malice welcome michael how are you well abraham lincoln wasn't really good at seeing things
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coming if you know what i'm saying oh my gosh oh my too soon too soon um
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so michael i just wanted to get your quick comments on uh just want to get your quick
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comments on uh on what happened recently uh filipinos are quite quite upset because uh some
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woke progressives have decided to change filipino uh it's much better to call them filipinks
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and uh apparently they don't like they don't like that that much well are we sure are we sure
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you're pronouncing it correctly i mean i don't speak tagalog so i'm not sure you know how because
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lat i was corrected it's not latinx i think it's latinx um but this is white people this is a white
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people thing this is white people yes yes and then people who are you know uh asian pacific ancestry
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going to college and acting like white people this is uh right nonsensical it's um it's and it's also
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there was this attempt to create this aapl asian american pacific i don't know what the l stands for
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coalition where you had people like uh tammy duckworth who i believe is of um asian descent
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and basically have this lie that chinese and japanese and people from india and people from the
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philippines and laos they're all interchangeable and they should all vote and uh you know act the
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same right even though for millennia they've been at war and to this day many of these countries despite
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each other you know i was i used to live in brooklyn until i escaped last august and i was at a dinner
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party a few years ago and it turned out everyone was from a different country their families so me
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being me we went around the table and said who did our ancestors hate and someone said well we didn't
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hate anyone and i said well who were your neighbors come on no no i said who were your neighbors then
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she goes oh we didn't hate them we thought they were dumb so but this is just but this is a complete
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american university fantasy that people no i know based on geography are somehow can be even look at
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america itself you had the north and the south they were neighbors they try to kill each other so it's
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it's really uh we have to laugh but it's a very cynical and disingenuous attempt to have this kind
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of intersectionality uh which is just and quite frankly it is the it's the most racist thing as well
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i mean when when you have a because it is it's a group of white people who think they know better and
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they can be the defenders and say you know filipino is racist the filipinos are like what you're going
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to be called philippinks from here on out uh i mean there's nothing more racist but this is where
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american imperialism kind of started with mckinley in the philippines uh and taft was governor of the
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philippines and progressivism is domesticate imperialism they ran out of other countries to
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invade because that became taboo and now you have to have new york city la and washington basically
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invade and govern who they regard in america as their inferiors uh and it's usually rural whites
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and it's also people who aren't following the progressive agenda it's it and the thing is it's
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become so transparent that it just you know necessitates eye rolls and and they're just grasping
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especially as you've seen um with the uh election of congresswoman flores who was the first mexican
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born congresswoman yeah you know the hispanics are jumping off this train they're like what are you
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what are you talking about i know i know you don't mean hispanics you mean latinx um by the way by the
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way uh i wanted to bring something up these are the headlines from today lawsuit alleges cdc colluding
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with big tech to censor speech um internal documents next story internal documents reveal cdc worked with
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big tech to censor covid19 speech next one twitter accounts suspended for covid19 misinformation
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have increased over 70 percent they're not done yet twitter is now blocking links to some sub stack
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pages uh because of covid the ccp and hunter biden and wikipedia suspends edits to its recession page
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after woke users changed the definition of biden's that's the only one that is right um but i think
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there's a class action suit isn't there i mean anyone who has been banned or been um silenced on the
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social media pages that is government now we know we have the evidence through documents that
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is collusion a public private partnership so that is the first amendment companies can do it but when
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working with the federal government they cannot well i i i disagree and we can go back to kind of
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wilson again because i think in there i mean i think it's unacceptable and outrageous don't get me
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wrong but in terms of a lawsuit i'm sure in their terms of service they all say we can boot you off at
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at any time for any reason whatsoever so to try to kind of demonstrate that you don't have a right
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to do this i think it's going to be very hard to prove i think twitter can very easily claim well this
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was in consultation with the government but we're the ones who made the decision um and i think
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the the heavy-handedness uh you know they would like us to memory hold this but the heavy-handedness
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with which they censored people including the new york post right before the election glenn as you
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remember when they were reporting on hunter's laptop and 50 intelligence agencies agents excuse
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me who've had no accountability for lying because they said that they were all the symbols classic
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symbols of russian disinformation which they still never said what those were uh and there clearly
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weren't none because this was just a crackhead laptop um i i think the idea that the law is going to
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hold these agents giant corporations accountable the law works in their favor that's how our system
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has worked i know well but but i don't my my lawsuit really is not against these uh corporations as
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much as it is um against the government because the government is supposed to never get involved in
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that and they have just found through public-private partnerships a way around the constitution they just
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get into bed with these corporations and then they highly suggest you know we can help you um or not
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help you um and they can highly suggest and really pressure these companies to do this um or these companies
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might even be inclined to do it themselves but the government has no place into being the arbiter of
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truth truth and speech no place but but glenn the governor the first amendment also guarantees the
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right of citizens to peaceably assemble and if you try to do a lawsuit that's saying i wanted to go to my
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mother's funeral or visit her in the hospital and i was blocked because these quarantines you'd be laughed
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out to your face so yeah it's supposed to work in a certain way but in practice i don't think these
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judges even fairly conservative judges are going to give this the time of day whatsoever um one other
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thing let me uh hit here before we we have to go uh germany is cutting off hot water and electricity
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this is something donald trump said just recently ronald reagan said it years ago don't do it don't
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get in bed with russia they'll hold you hostage and here they are um what do you think this means for
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for stability in the future of our of our world it's not just getting ahead of russia germany has
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in the very last election gone from having a two major party system to having a three major party
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system the greens have achieved parity with the social democrats which have historically since world
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war ii been the center-left party in germany um and now that the greens are in power this is the
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kind of thing that happens when you want to have you know uh not be dependent on things like gas or
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whatever you're going to have problems producing electricity you're going to have problems producing
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energy and they're uh cutting the water supply they're having gas reductions public buildings won't
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have heatings from april to september they're banning this is in uh the city of hanover they're
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banning air conditioners heaters and radiators for people in their homes and and you know this is
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what the german people voted for so even if when things are resolved with putin and hopefully that's
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as quickly as possible this is going to be continue to be a problem and that that green new deal which is
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not going away which is just on pause people should be very considerable what that's going to look like
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in practice here uh you know i was just watching this guy who is uh he's got the hydrogen house
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he used to work for nasa and he makes hydrogen from solar power and i've been a big believer in hydrogen
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for a long time uh it doesn't cause a water shortage you have to make hydrogen from water you actually
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get more water from hydrogen than you put into it believe it or not um and uh it's 100 percent
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clean energy and you can make it with solar energy it is the answer and i thought you know
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people could solve this problem if we were allowed to really truly invent and do the things
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that we believe in there'd be a lot of mistakes but you know i i was thinking i you know what maybe i
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should call this guy and see if i can build a hydrogen you know uh plant myself uh because he's made
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it for his house and you can power everything and i thought well no because you know the government
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is eventually going to say that i'm committing some crime because of it uh because they'll deem
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hydrogen is whatever the problem is and that's a real problem government is the problem uh well you're
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talking to an anarchist so i could not agree with you i know i know again if carbon dioxide they're
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trying to regulate that as a pollutant which is something that every plant produces um it yeah at
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a certain point their use of language is simply a mechanism to have power and not they don't use
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language to uh inform they use it to manipulate so i agree with you completely like there's no way
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that if you're trying to create an energy plant of any kind you're not going to be subject to
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nightmarish regulations and possibly felonies yeah exactly it's exactly right and it's uh i mean it's
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the same story over and over and over again and something's got to change and i have a feeling with
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great pain will come great change and hopefully it will be positive change if we all keep our heads
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michael thank you so much for being on with us it's michael malice he's the author of the anarchist
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handbook and the host of your welcome did you have something else you wanted to say michael are you
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just disrupting because you're an anarchist no i i you just said thank you so i was going to say thank
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you so have a great weekend everyone all right have a good time thanks michael
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it is a thrill i've been looking forward to this for weeks now jack carr welcome to the program how
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are you sir oh thank you so much i sincerely appreciate you having me on it's been uh
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since we last spoke it is crazy what's going on isn't it
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it is both in the world and then uh in uh i guess in on my journey here with the show and
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the books and everything else it's gotten uh it's gotten fairly busy but i feel uh incredibly fortunate
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yeah well you are and you're uh it's i mean it's your hard work and your storylines uh when you
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when you got a call or did you pitch um uh amazon prime and and chris pratt signed on
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how'd you feel yeah so it came about in a strange way that i am told is not the typical
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hollywood story in uh that i wrote it first got it to simon and schuster they loved it we got a
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two book deal in place and before the book even comes out i get a call from a seal buddy who i
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hadn't spoken to in five years and he calls me and he says hey do you remember me and i said yes i
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remember you and he said do you remember what you did for me in the seal teams and i said nope and he
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said you were the only person that as i was getting out of the military sat me down talked
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me through transitioning into the private sector you introduced me to people outside the military
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and then you followed up with me to see how i was doing nobody else did that i always wanted to thank
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you and i said no problem how's it going and he said well it's going great but uh i heard you have
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a book coming out and of course i said yep it's coming out in a few months i can send you an early
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galley copy if you'd like and he said i'd like that but i'd like to give it to a friend of mine
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and i asked him who that was and he said chris pratt and i thought wow that's convenient because
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as i was writing this thing i thought of chris pratt playing the main role and i thought of that
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really this is before his rise to a-list prominence before guardians of the galaxy before avengers
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before jurassic world because i saw him as lovable andy dwyer on parks and rec and then i saw this
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transformation into a seal operator for zero dark 30s so i saw that transformation and i knew that he
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hadn't done anything like this yet before and i thought this is an actor that needs to take a risk
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and do something like this and i think i had read somewhere that maybe he leans to the more
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patriotic side of things which is a little different for many in hollywood so i thought
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this is the right guy to bring this story to life and so my friend jared shaw who also is now a producer
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on the show technical advisor and plays boozer in the show he gave it to chris chris read it right
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he read it the last week in december of 2017 called the first week in january 2018 wanting to option it
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so off we went to the races he's a great guy isn't he he's a great guy he is he is he's a normal guy
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somebody you'd want to sit down have a beer with have a coffee with uh and he brought this energy to
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the set that was so encouraging uh and so inspirational each and every day bringing his a-game
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which really filtered across all 350 people working on that set and i had so many people come up to me
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and say that they had been on hundreds of hollywood sets and none of them had felt like this and that's
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all due to chris pratt that's great with the director up there at the top being so encouraging
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and positive and just creating this environment that made everybody want to bring their a-game
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every single day so it was a it was a thrill to see it brought to life so let me ask you a question
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as a writer james reese the chris pratt character finds himself in the middle of this conspiracy
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um uh and it well a lot of us would call it the deep the deep state um and it involves high
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members of the government the dod and private corporations pharmaceutical companies what gave
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you that idea in i think you wrote wrote this in 2018 so it was before the deep state was really
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talked about openly um where did that come from so it came out in 2018 but i started writing it in
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december of 2014 so um 2014 for the first time but uh i'd always been drawn to conspiracies thrillers my
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whole life i've been a fan of the thriller genre uh also of movies and television shows that had that
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theme that conspiratorial element but also that underdog who the system is just stacked against
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who rises up and crushes his enemies um and i wanted a character a modern day character who
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would go into battle thinking he was already dead so he was free from societal norms and laws
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and he could just uncover this conspiracy and essentially become the insurgent that he'd been
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fighting for the previous if it came up now 20 plus years yeah and bring those home to the front
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doorsteps of people who have been sending young men women to their deaths for for 20 plus years uh so
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but i really got i went back and i looked at the church hearings i really looked at the end of world
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war ii and the shift that occurred at the end of world war ii um and people should go back and listen
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to dwight eisenhower's speech not just the one line that everyone always talks about but the entire
00:33:54.240
speech and then look at what was happening in the defense establishment and the intelligence
00:33:58.200
establishment and then what what happened in the 50s and the 60s in the 70s and then what was
00:34:04.560
what was out of church hearings in the mid 70s exactly exactly because what happened in the church
00:34:09.580
hearings yes a lot of abuses by the federal government were uh exposed but what do people like that do
00:34:14.580
then well they adapt and so that adaptation has been occurring ever since the church hearings
00:34:19.340
and so i wanted to really look into that and then create a character that could go and
00:34:23.960
take those people off the battlefield so um i have read um many uh very very wise people uh from
00:34:34.400
washington or who watch washington and there is a problem with our intelligence community they're
00:34:39.580
they're now starting to say it's almost a fourth branch of government um and it silos everything
00:34:46.060
and tells the leaders what they want them to know and silo different branches of the government etc etc
00:34:53.060
um and they're running things this is this is the conjecture that they're actually running things
00:34:59.200
is it possible to reign these these intelligence agencies and the doj and you know state department
00:35:08.660
is it possible to reel them back in that is the real question and uh you know they are gigantic
00:35:15.800
bureaucracies with unelected officials that are in place that can just wait out uh any politicians
00:35:21.520
that get elected that do attempt to make changes uh so they are such large bureaucracies i am not sure
00:35:27.780
uh and that's that's the real question that's what i explore really in these novels as well
00:35:32.320
but but what's so sad especially to the citizenry is that these institutions have been so politicized
00:35:38.260
um that uh it's to the detriment of us as the voters as citizens and now you have institutions
00:35:46.040
that uh that benefit from our division um mainly i'm talking about obviously a political class
00:35:53.740
and tech and uh the tech uh oligarchy and we're walking right into this ambush it's like an l ambush
00:36:00.320
of uh politicians and this and this tech monopoly and in we walk here as citizens um and i'm not sure
00:36:08.540
how you how we get out of that but uh they are the ones that directly benefit from this division uh and
00:36:16.580
that includes these institutions that fall under those political classes that have all been
00:36:20.700
politicized obviously um so how do we get out of that that's that's a question i like to explore
00:36:25.600
in my novels uh and uh but i don't know i i try to remain hopeful publicly but at the end of the day
00:36:31.600
when i sit down with my wife on the couch and we talk about everything going on in the world
00:36:34.440
it's uh sometimes difficult with everything going on out there i know i know um so we're talking to
00:36:40.540
jack car um the um the author um when we're looking at um the world right now i i look at ukraine and it
00:36:52.420
just doesn't feel right we're sending 60 billion dollars over there nobody's accounting for it um
00:37:00.240
it's a very dirty country um as far as corruption our leaders really i think on both sides but mainly on
00:37:10.000
the democrats but republicans are not entirely clean either um have been especially the the biden has
00:37:16.340
been laundering money in my opinion and i think the evidence is pretty strong over in ukraine um
00:37:23.260
and it feels like i don't know it just feels like the world wants this war to reset everything
00:37:30.960
how do you feel about ukraine and where we're going
00:37:35.220
yeah so anytime i i see anything these days uh in the news or anything pop up on uh online
00:37:41.480
uh i ask myself how what action do they want me to take and how am i being manipulated um and that's
00:37:47.680
maybe a cynical way to look at it but with so many inputs out there today so many more than were out
00:37:53.680
there and 30 years ago obviously 50 years ago um you have to ask yourself how am i being manipulated
00:37:58.720
what action do these people want me to take and then look at it through that lens um in my second
00:38:04.380
novel true believer everything is speeding towards a russian invasion of ukraine um which is causing
00:38:10.460
some issues with the second season of the terminal list if we get one uh because now we can't have
00:38:15.480
that plot line because it actually happened um but when you see that happening you have to ask the why
00:38:21.260
what lessons can we learn and apply going forward uh did we possibly make mistakes along the way here
00:38:27.240
that helped uh help make this happen essentially and then you can ask some other questions uh some of
00:38:33.840
my sources out there saying uh hey we might want to look into investments that uh putin made through
00:38:39.840
uh relatives and uh through uh friendly oligarchs uh in the days weeks months leading up to the invasion
00:38:46.540
of ukraine and what those same people have done and invested since uh as far as shorting and futures and
00:38:53.720
that sort of a thing so it's something that i'm looking into because it's quite possible that uh
00:38:58.460
that putin got even wealthier after the invasion of ukraine oh i'm sure and having every i'm sure
00:39:04.320
he did exactly and everything being so interconnected at those those high levels um and we talked about
00:39:11.100
those 50 intelligence officials that got on tv uh last fall and uh told us all uh that about
00:39:17.260
russian disinformation as it applied to the biden family uh and those those and what happened to
00:39:22.740
those those 50 i think it was 50 um well nothing yeah it's accountability that we have nothing lost
00:39:28.000
and that accountability really that loss of accountability goes back to the end of world war
00:39:31.940
ii really 1947 um with the establishment of our intelligence agencies and the military
00:39:37.140
industrial complex as we understand it today um but those were back in the beginnings there but up
00:39:42.160
until that point senior military leaders were held to account for their failures
00:39:46.000
and for whatever reason after world war ii that stopped happening uh george marshall held military
00:39:51.600
leaders accountable for what they did uh before world war ii during world war ii and that's how we
00:39:56.600
got the names that we can all recite today of those generals and admirals that led our victory and uh
00:40:02.080
today we have the exact opposite and what do we have now also well a recruiting problem for the
00:40:06.580
military why do we think that is well because no one has trust in those senior military leaders that
00:40:10.980
are going to be sending young men and women off to war and uh so we've lost that trust that
00:40:15.640
trust has been completely eroded and that is because of the lack of accountability at those
00:40:19.140
senior levels yeah it's not that i mean you know it's not even that i don't trust this commander
00:40:25.500
in chief to know what the best thing to do is along with the leadership but it's also that they i mean
00:40:32.280
i don't trust that they're fighting uh the right fights that he will pick the right fights or fight
00:40:38.300
the right fights in the right way and the righteous fights um i mean i just don't know what we stand for
00:40:45.700
right now and they're they're cleaning out the military and so many people are leaving because
00:40:51.080
of the vaccines and then they're cleaning out the military you know doing a a political purge it's just
00:40:57.660
a very dangerous time it really is i mean we're so divided um we've been divided before which gives me
00:41:04.100
hope because we did come back together after after the civil war so i do look at that case uh to give
00:41:08.700
me a little bit of hope um but many cases were manipulated into that division by the very entities
00:41:13.380
who directly benefit from it uh those politicians and tech companies we talked about um but uh it's
00:41:19.440
so bad that if one side and quote unquote side says that uh we need to secure our borders the other side
00:41:25.240
has to take the opposite position of that because they can't possibly find any common ground with the
00:41:31.660
other quote unquote correct side uh we've lost all logic and common sense and uh interestingly enough
00:41:37.780
that george marshall and carl von klausowitz both thought that common sense was the most important
00:41:41.760
attribute of any leader and we have completely lost that across our uh politics and our discourse in
00:41:48.120
this country unfortunately uh we're talking to jack carr the author of the terminal list which is a book
00:41:55.260
he's got a series out number six is coming out here uh soon and is also amazon prime's adaptation of
00:42:02.720
the first book the terminal list uh played by chris pratt book and uh series absolutely worth watching
00:42:10.000
jack thank you so much again for being on with us i just uh i really enjoy our talks i really have
00:42:16.660
been looking forward to this uh conversation for a couple weeks um the um let me just ask you about
00:42:23.040
nancy pelosi in taiwan we normally will send people over to countries like that and then announce
00:42:30.840
the trip after we leave so you don't put yourself in this situation again i don't know if it's incompetence
00:42:37.740
or what but uh we've been you know announcing it haven't even announced a date and now china said in today's
00:42:45.140
headline it is uh those who play with fire get burned and they are really threatening us i don't think
00:42:52.640
they have the capability at this time to go into taiwan but what do we do here and how dangerous is
00:42:59.860
this trip well china has always believed that taiwan is just a province of china um so a lot of it back
00:43:07.320
to us not being able to put ourselves in our enemies shoes or our opponents shoes our adversary as
00:43:12.820
adversaries shoes and look at the world through their perspective and then make wise decisions based on
00:43:19.420
that we keep looking at things through this western lens we did in afghanistan we did it in iraq
00:43:23.880
we're doing it in uh in ukraine you know no matter how there's a few different other aspects to that
00:43:30.880
as well but we've done it to china for the last 50 years uh and we can't seem to get away from that
00:43:38.060
we were very reactionary um uh and it's one of those one of those places that we thought was just
00:43:44.840
going to take care of itself um and that's obviously not happened i mean since the 70s
00:43:50.120
really that's been the policy if you look all the way through the 80s we just figure that the taiwan
00:43:54.420
china situation uh will just over time things will settle down everyone will uh kind of join onto this
00:44:00.440
new this band of nations that realizes that that capitalism and uh and free markets are the way
00:44:06.640
ahead and all that sort of things we just let it simmer and now we have this situation that
00:44:12.380
could turn into to burning all of us but it's really because we can't look at things through
00:44:16.760
our enemy's eyes and we think we look at things through a four-year type of a uh yes eight years
00:44:24.120
for the real deep thinkers among us maybe um where they're thinking not just decades but they're thinking
00:44:29.740
a century ahead and making moves that put them in a position of dominance uh in the years ahead but
00:44:36.340
they're not thinking of those election cycles uh one because well they don't have to but uh they're not
00:44:40.880
short-sighted we are the short-sighted ones and we prove that time and time again to the detriment
00:44:45.400
really not just of the united states but of the world and we this is totally i mean at least our
00:44:51.900
enemies were our enemies for a long time we understood that and uh and uh and we're still
00:44:57.400
kind of moving in the same direction now we're just flip-flopping around every four years it's ridiculous
00:45:02.900
jack i'm sorry i'm out of time is there going to be a second season terminal list that's the real
00:45:08.840
question and uh you'll be one of the first to know god i get word all right i'm gonna hold you to
00:45:15.040
that all right good thank you so much uh it has a score of 95 on rotten tomatoes the critics hate it
00:45:23.400
39 but that to me is just an endorsement to make sure you're watching it on amazon prime