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00:00:00.000 holy cow what a great podcast for you today uh in hour number one i just take apart the um cnn

00:00:08.580 incredible uh opinion or they called it news uh that america's churches have just become

00:00:16.840 white nationalist churches um it's part two of that i take it down in epic form based all on

00:00:23.740 the facts and you can get all those facts at glennbeck.com there's also a story that i think

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00:02:05.160 thank you from the hymnals now everybody sing along send us thine asteroid oh lord

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00:02:29.960 thy vengeance be on us

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00:03:01.340 just like you did just like you did for dinosaurs destroy mankind with meaty horse

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00:04:05.600 to bring to us a swift demise

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00:04:21.600 and now from the scriptures according to glenn i want to share with you if i might what cnn is saying but cnn is saying that we are just a white christian america

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00:07:02.600 yeah lasted decades and decades and decades here it was stopped and it only lasted about 18 months

00:07:12.040 why is that a christian minister yes pointed out hey you're reading the bible incorrectly

00:07:20.780 and then increased mather he was instrumental in stopping the salem witch trials he's like

00:07:26.300 i don't think we should use any of this magic stuff maybe we should go back and look at you know uh

00:07:33.160 in the uh there has to be a witness of three or more and you have to have actual facts and evidence

00:07:41.280 you know like the bible says ministers and religious leaders also led the charge against

00:07:48.360 slavery they were using in the south they were they were using the bible to say we can have slaves

00:07:55.340 yes an incorrect understanding of the gospel of jesus christ and there are many examples so let's

00:08:05.080 go to the second claim america's wealth was derived from slave labor yes that's right you know who

00:08:12.260 used to say that a lot our great fine fine president old jefferson davis yeah old jeff used to say that

00:08:23.040 all the time america's wealth is derived from slave labor we can't have an america without slavery 0.85

00:08:31.720 unfortunately that's not true jeff davis go go go go i think he might have been drinking the contention

00:08:42.740 that slavery constituted a major source of wealth during the founding of america is entirely erroneous

00:08:49.420 and a little more than a gross regurgitation of old pro-slavery confederate propaganda

00:08:56.320 the importation of slaves in north america did not become substantial until more than a century

00:09:03.260 after its initial founding no more than 5 000 slaves were disembarked in any year until 1727

00:09:11.740 when it began to substantially increase it was well after the christian founding by the way does

00:09:21.240 anybody know that if new england would have been considered a country and not england in new england

00:09:28.440 would have been considered um the first country in the world 50 years ahead of everybody else

00:09:37.700 of abolishing slavery yeah new england did that abolished slavery 50 years before anyone else did

00:09:47.300 anybody know that our pilgrims actually because of a storm had a slave ship wash up upon their store

00:09:54.940 their shores but the bible calls that to man stealing and when they boarded the ship and realized that it

00:10:02.720 was a slave ship they arrested the captain and the crew then they took a a collection i'm passing around

00:10:10.720 the collection plate give until it hurts pilgrims and they did and you know they use that money for

00:10:17.440 huh it's crazy they use that money to uh gain the passage on that ship with a new crew back to africa

00:10:29.600 huh that's weird significantly slavery impoverished the areas which practiced it in comparison to

00:10:39.020 those parts of the country which did not let me give you alex de tocqueville he noted that the colonies

00:10:45.860 in which there was no slaves became more populous and more prosperous than those in which slavery flourished

00:10:53.340 de tocqueville's uh observations are confirmed by the facts of economic history but why care about that

00:11:00.840 we're we're so busy redefining history and economics i don't think we're actually in a recession

00:11:08.280 the story of the south is one of stagnation and increasingly falling behind the rest of the nation

00:11:14.980 aside from the few owners of large plantations the people of the south were generally more impoverished

00:11:20.660 than the people in the north at the time of the revolutionary war the south had been

00:11:25.040 the wealthier region by far but their reliance upon slavery sapped the strength out of the region

00:11:31.980 as economic historians from harvard and uc davis explained when they were sane from 1774 and 1860

00:11:41.140 the per annum growth rates for new england 1.26 percent the middle atlantic 1.08 percent and the south's

00:11:51.520 0.31 percent by 1860 the real product per capita in the south was 40 points behind new england

00:12:01.840 a harvard economic study identified that even today there exists a significant negative relationship

00:12:07.820 between past slave use and current economic performance in fact all forms of slavery were

00:12:15.020 detrimental to economic development but cnn why take it from harvard you know as early as 1793 major

00:12:24.860 figures such as nor webster pointed out in no particular um in no particular uh are the deplorable

00:12:33.360 effects of slavery more visible than in checking the destroying of national industry and productivity

00:12:40.360 wherever we turn our eyes to view the comparative effects of freedom and slavery on agriculture arts

00:12:46.780 commerce science the mind is deeply affected at the astonishing contrast to labor solely for the

00:12:54.700 benefit of other man is repugnant to every principle of the human heart third and i love this one

00:13:02.860 america's land was stolen from the native americans ministers and religious communities were at the

00:13:10.360 forefront in treating native tribes with respect and honoring land deals yes cnn it's true the religious

00:13:18.300 pilgrims strictly only occupied land lawfully purchased this land was bought at a price agreed upon by the

00:13:28.620 native tribes in founding plymouth in 1620 at the start of king philip's war in 1675 plymouth governor joshua

00:13:36.860 winslow explained i think i can clearly say that before these present troubles broke out the english did not

00:13:44.500 possess one foot of land in this colony that was uh that was uh not fairly obtained by honest purchase of the

00:13:54.280 indian proprietors reverend roger williams lawfully purchased the land at a price agreed upon by the native

00:14:01.680 tribes in order to found uh rhode island in 1636 reverend john davenport lawfully purchased the land at a price

00:14:10.840 agreed upon by the native tribes in order to found new haven in 1637 in founding pennsylvania and this is an

00:14:18.680 incredible stat i net i had never heard before william penn as in pennsylvania purchased the land from the indians

00:14:28.700 but there was a problem when they purchased the land from one tribe the other tribe said well but they stole

00:14:35.840 it from us we're the actual owners and so he purchased it again from a second tribe and then a third tribe

00:14:43.820 came in and said yeah but they stole it from us parts of pennsylvania william penn bought three separate

00:14:51.940 times just to make sure he had secured a clear title from each tribe that claimed it had been stolen from

00:15:01.860 them by another indian tribe remember the 1888 wall map of jamestown versus the pilgrims i showed this to

00:15:09.880 you on a couple of tv shows and i've talked about it on radio um throughout the northeast and most of

00:15:16.460 early america the land was purchased by the colonists in the south it was different but because the land

00:15:24.820 was bought the longest lasting treaty in american history between whites and indians was the treaty

00:15:31.440 between the pilgrims and the indians and who broke that treaty yes yes the indians if you look at that 0.64

00:15:42.320 map i showed you it shows jamestown is founded on slavery it becomes an absolute nightmare and everything

00:15:51.520 goes sour from there this is the same argument that we had before the civil war were we a country

00:15:58.580 founded in slavery with jamestown or are we a christian nation that come from the pilgrims

00:16:06.660 that tried to do the things right well guess which one i think we are and guess which one i think we

00:16:14.360 should be white christian nationalists they say cnn belief number two a belief in a warrior christ

00:16:23.960 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:16:30.300 let me go to michael malice who i think abraham lincoln saw uh coming long long time ago with malice

00:16:49.860 toward none and uh that makes me a little nervous that he's on the program but i like him anyway

00:16:54.020 he is the uh host of your welcome a great podcast the author of the anarchist handbook

00:17:01.560 michael malice welcome michael how are you well abraham lincoln wasn't really good at seeing things

00:17:07.780 coming if you know what i'm saying oh my gosh oh my too soon too soon um

00:17:15.720 so michael i just wanted to get your quick comments on uh just want to get your quick

00:17:21.680 comments on uh on what happened recently uh filipinos are quite quite upset because uh some

00:17:29.320 woke progressives have decided to change filipino uh it's much better to call them filipinks 0.96

00:17:37.860 and uh apparently they don't like they don't like that that much well are we sure are we sure

00:17:45.640 you're pronouncing it correctly i mean i don't speak tagalog so i'm not sure you know how because

00:17:50.400 lat i was corrected it's not latinx i think it's latinx um but this is white people this is a white

00:17:57.440 people thing this is white people yes yes and then people who are you know uh asian pacific ancestry

00:18:04.780 going to college and acting like white people this is uh right nonsensical it's um it's and it's also

00:18:11.960 there was this attempt to create this aapl asian american pacific i don't know what the l stands for

00:18:18.740 coalition where you had people like uh tammy duckworth who i believe is of um asian descent

00:18:24.200 and basically have this lie that chinese and japanese and people from india and people from the

00:18:31.640 philippines and laos they're all interchangeable and they should all vote and uh you know act the

00:18:37.320 same right even though for millennia they've been at war and to this day many of these countries despite

00:18:42.880 each other you know i was i used to live in brooklyn until i escaped last august and i was at a dinner

00:18:48.440 party a few years ago and it turned out everyone was from a different country their families so me

00:18:54.140 being me we went around the table and said who did our ancestors hate and someone said well we didn't

00:19:00.220 hate anyone and i said well who were your neighbors come on no no i said who were your neighbors then 0.89

00:19:06.360 she goes oh we didn't hate them we thought they were dumb so but this is just but this is a complete 0.90

00:19:13.660 american university fantasy that people no i know based on geography are somehow can be even look at 0.96

00:19:22.520 america itself you had the north and the south they were neighbors they try to kill each other so it's

00:19:28.760 it's really uh we have to laugh but it's a very cynical and disingenuous attempt to have this kind

00:19:36.000 of intersectionality uh which is just and quite frankly it is the it's the most racist thing as well

00:19:44.660 i mean when when you have a because it is it's a group of white people who think they know better and

00:19:51.920 they can be the defenders and say you know filipino is racist the filipinos are like what you're going 0.92

00:19:57.980 to be called philippinks from here on out uh i mean there's nothing more racist but this is where

00:20:04.440 american imperialism kind of started with mckinley in the philippines uh and taft was governor of the

00:20:09.940 philippines and progressivism is domesticate imperialism they ran out of other countries to

00:20:16.540 invade because that became taboo and now you have to have new york city la and washington basically

00:20:22.660 invade and govern who they regard in america as their inferiors uh and it's usually rural whites 0.91

00:20:29.120 and it's also people who aren't following the progressive agenda it's it and the thing is it's

00:20:35.320 become so transparent that it just you know necessitates eye rolls and and they're just grasping

00:20:41.160 especially as you've seen um with the uh election of congresswoman flores who was the first mexican 0.85

00:20:47.600 born congresswoman yeah you know the hispanics are jumping off this train they're like what are you 1.00

00:20:51.380 what are you talking about i know i know you don't mean hispanics you mean latinx um by the way by the

00:20:58.360 way uh i wanted to bring something up these are the headlines from today lawsuit alleges cdc colluding

00:21:04.440 with big tech to censor speech um internal documents next story internal documents reveal cdc worked with

00:21:12.960 big tech to censor covid19 speech next one twitter accounts suspended for covid19 misinformation

00:21:20.840 have increased over 70 percent they're not done yet twitter is now blocking links to some sub stack

00:21:29.040 pages uh because of covid the ccp and hunter biden and wikipedia suspends edits to its recession page

00:21:37.720 after woke users changed the definition of biden's that's the only one that is right um but i think

00:21:43.500 there's a class action suit isn't there i mean anyone who has been banned or been um silenced on the

00:21:51.200 social media pages that is government now we know we have the evidence through documents that

00:21:58.840 is collusion a public private partnership so that is the first amendment companies can do it but when

00:22:06.220 working with the federal government they cannot well i i i disagree and we can go back to kind of

00:22:13.360 wilson again because i think in there i mean i think it's unacceptable and outrageous don't get me

00:22:19.160 wrong but in terms of a lawsuit i'm sure in their terms of service they all say we can boot you off at

00:22:25.420 at any time for any reason whatsoever so to try to kind of demonstrate that you don't have a right

00:22:30.980 to do this i think it's going to be very hard to prove i think twitter can very easily claim well this

00:22:38.040 was in consultation with the government but we're the ones who made the decision um and i think

00:22:43.200 the the heavy-handedness uh you know they would like us to memory hold this but the heavy-handedness

00:22:49.600 with which they censored people including the new york post right before the election glenn as you

00:22:54.940 remember when they were reporting on hunter's laptop and 50 intelligence agencies agents excuse

00:23:00.420 me who've had no accountability for lying because they said that they were all the symbols classic

00:23:06.640 symbols of russian disinformation which they still never said what those were uh and there clearly

00:23:11.240 weren't none because this was just a crackhead laptop um i i think the idea that the law is going to

00:23:17.900 hold these agents giant corporations accountable the law works in their favor that's how our system

00:23:24.700 has worked i know well but but i don't my my lawsuit really is not against these uh corporations as

00:23:32.940 much as it is um against the government because the government is supposed to never get involved in

00:23:42.000 that and they have just found through public-private partnerships a way around the constitution they just

00:23:48.260 get into bed with these corporations and then they highly suggest you know we can help you um or not

00:23:55.520 help you um and they can highly suggest and really pressure these companies to do this um or these companies

00:24:03.000 might even be inclined to do it themselves but the government has no place into being the arbiter of

00:24:10.860 truth truth and speech no place but but glenn the governor the first amendment also guarantees the

00:24:17.720 right of citizens to peaceably assemble and if you try to do a lawsuit that's saying i wanted to go to my

00:24:23.460 mother's funeral or visit her in the hospital and i was blocked because these quarantines you'd be laughed

00:24:29.260 out to your face so yeah it's supposed to work in a certain way but in practice i don't think these

00:24:35.280 judges even fairly conservative judges are going to give this the time of day whatsoever um one other

00:24:45.200 thing let me uh hit here before we we have to go uh germany is cutting off hot water and electricity 0.99

00:24:50.600 this is something donald trump said just recently ronald reagan said it years ago don't do it don't

00:24:56.420 get in bed with russia they'll hold you hostage and here they are um what do you think this means for 0.81

00:25:02.880 for stability in the future of our of our world it's not just getting ahead of russia germany has

00:25:10.560 in the very last election gone from having a two major party system to having a three major party

00:25:17.380 system the greens have achieved parity with the social democrats which have historically since world

00:25:23.060 war ii been the center-left party in germany um and now that the greens are in power this is the

00:25:29.420 kind of thing that happens when you want to have you know uh not be dependent on things like gas or

00:25:36.980 whatever you're going to have problems producing electricity you're going to have problems producing

00:25:41.340 energy and they're uh cutting the water supply they're having gas reductions public buildings won't

00:25:47.960 have heatings from april to september they're banning this is in uh the city of hanover they're

00:25:54.180 banning air conditioners heaters and radiators for people in their homes and and you know this is

00:26:00.040 what the german people voted for so even if when things are resolved with putin and hopefully that's

00:26:05.980 as quickly as possible this is going to be continue to be a problem and that that green new deal which is

00:26:11.760 not going away which is just on pause people should be very considerable what that's going to look like

00:26:16.340 in practice here uh you know i was just watching this guy who is uh he's got the hydrogen house 0.78

00:26:25.400 he used to work for nasa and he makes hydrogen from solar power and i've been a big believer in hydrogen

00:26:31.880 for a long time uh it doesn't cause a water shortage you have to make hydrogen from water you actually

00:26:38.100 get more water from hydrogen than you put into it believe it or not um and uh it's 100 percent

00:26:46.320 clean energy and you can make it with solar energy it is the answer and i thought you know

00:26:52.100 people could solve this problem if we were allowed to really truly invent and do the things

00:27:01.040 that we believe in there'd be a lot of mistakes but you know i i was thinking i you know what maybe i

00:27:07.900 should call this guy and see if i can build a hydrogen you know uh plant myself uh because he's made

00:27:15.660 it for his house and you can power everything and i thought well no because you know the government

00:27:20.660 is eventually going to say that i'm committing some crime because of it uh because they'll deem

00:27:27.260 hydrogen is whatever the problem is and that's a real problem government is the problem uh well you're

00:27:35.860 talking to an anarchist so i could not agree with you i know i know again if carbon dioxide they're

00:27:41.280 trying to regulate that as a pollutant which is something that every plant produces um it yeah at

00:27:47.280 a certain point their use of language is simply a mechanism to have power and not they don't use

00:27:52.800 language to uh inform they use it to manipulate so i agree with you completely like there's no way

00:27:58.600 that if you're trying to create an energy plant of any kind you're not going to be subject to

00:28:03.120 nightmarish regulations and possibly felonies yeah exactly it's exactly right and it's uh i mean it's

00:28:13.100 the same story over and over and over again and something's got to change and i have a feeling with

00:28:20.020 great pain will come great change and hopefully it will be positive change if we all keep our heads

00:28:24.940 michael thank you so much for being on with us it's michael malice he's the author of the anarchist

00:28:29.900 handbook and the host of your welcome did you have something else you wanted to say michael are you

00:28:34.500 just disrupting because you're an anarchist no i i you just said thank you so i was going to say thank

00:28:40.120 you so have a great weekend everyone all right have a good time thanks michael

00:28:44.880 the best of the glenbeck program

00:28:49.740 it is a thrill i've been looking forward to this for weeks now jack carr welcome to the program how

00:29:03.980 are you sir oh thank you so much i sincerely appreciate you having me on it's been uh

00:29:09.300 since we last spoke it is crazy what's going on isn't it

00:29:15.740 it is both in the world and then uh in uh i guess in on my journey here with the show and

00:29:22.780 the books and everything else it's gotten uh it's gotten fairly busy but i feel uh incredibly fortunate

00:29:28.380 yeah well you are and you're uh it's i mean it's your hard work and your storylines uh when you

00:29:36.580 when you got a call or did you pitch um uh amazon prime and and chris pratt signed on

00:29:44.100 how'd you feel yeah so it came about in a strange way that i am told is not the typical

00:29:50.220 hollywood story in uh that i wrote it first got it to simon and schuster they loved it we got a

00:29:56.160 two book deal in place and before the book even comes out i get a call from a seal buddy who i

00:30:01.020 hadn't spoken to in five years and he calls me and he says hey do you remember me and i said yes i

00:30:06.780 remember you and he said do you remember what you did for me in the seal teams and i said nope and he

00:30:11.200 said you were the only person that as i was getting out of the military sat me down talked

00:30:15.560 me through transitioning into the private sector you introduced me to people outside the military

00:30:19.920 and then you followed up with me to see how i was doing nobody else did that i always wanted to thank

00:30:24.500 you and i said no problem how's it going and he said well it's going great but uh i heard you have

00:30:29.880 a book coming out and of course i said yep it's coming out in a few months i can send you an early

00:30:33.760 galley copy if you'd like and he said i'd like that but i'd like to give it to a friend of mine

00:30:37.440 and i asked him who that was and he said chris pratt and i thought wow that's convenient because

00:30:42.820 as i was writing this thing i thought of chris pratt playing the main role and i thought of that

00:30:48.180 really this is before his rise to a-list prominence before guardians of the galaxy before avengers

00:30:53.720 before jurassic world because i saw him as lovable andy dwyer on parks and rec and then i saw this

00:30:59.760 transformation into a seal operator for zero dark 30s so i saw that transformation and i knew that he

00:31:05.360 hadn't done anything like this yet before and i thought this is an actor that needs to take a risk

00:31:09.720 and do something like this and i think i had read somewhere that maybe he leans to the more

00:31:14.840 patriotic side of things which is a little different for many in hollywood so i thought

00:31:18.900 this is the right guy to bring this story to life and so my friend jared shaw who also is now a producer

00:31:24.480 on the show technical advisor and plays boozer in the show he gave it to chris chris read it right

00:31:29.320 he read it the last week in december of 2017 called the first week in january 2018 wanting to option it

00:31:34.860 so off we went to the races he's a great guy isn't he he's a great guy he is he is he's a normal guy

00:31:42.700 somebody you'd want to sit down have a beer with have a coffee with uh and he brought this energy to

00:31:47.200 the set that was so encouraging uh and so inspirational each and every day bringing his a-game

00:31:52.140 which really filtered across all 350 people working on that set and i had so many people come up to me

00:31:58.160 and say that they had been on hundreds of hollywood sets and none of them had felt like this and that's

00:32:03.820 all due to chris pratt that's great with the director up there at the top being so encouraging

00:32:07.660 and positive and just creating this environment that made everybody want to bring their a-game

00:32:12.380 every single day so it was a it was a thrill to see it brought to life so let me ask you a question

00:32:18.000 as a writer james reese the chris pratt character finds himself in the middle of this conspiracy

00:32:22.920 um uh and it well a lot of us would call it the deep the deep state um and it involves high

00:32:31.960 members of the government the dod and private corporations pharmaceutical companies what gave

00:32:37.540 you that idea in i think you wrote wrote this in 2018 so it was before the deep state was really

00:32:45.020 talked about openly um where did that come from so it came out in 2018 but i started writing it in

00:32:53.280 december of 2014 so um 2014 for the first time but uh i'd always been drawn to conspiracies thrillers my

00:33:02.280 whole life i've been a fan of the thriller genre uh also of movies and television shows that had that

00:33:07.200 theme that conspiratorial element but also that underdog who the system is just stacked against

00:33:13.280 who rises up and crushes his enemies um and i wanted a character a modern day character who

00:33:18.720 would go into battle thinking he was already dead so he was free from societal norms and laws

00:33:24.060 and he could just uncover this conspiracy and essentially become the insurgent that he'd been

00:33:28.680 fighting for the previous if it came up now 20 plus years yeah and bring those home to the front

00:33:34.940 doorsteps of people who have been sending young men women to their deaths for for 20 plus years uh so

00:33:40.740 but i really got i went back and i looked at the church hearings i really looked at the end of world

00:33:45.000 war ii and the shift that occurred at the end of world war ii um and people should go back and listen

00:33:49.920 to dwight eisenhower's speech not just the one line that everyone always talks about but the entire

00:33:54.240 speech and then look at what was happening in the defense establishment and the intelligence

00:33:58.200 establishment and then what what happened in the 50s and the 60s in the 70s and then what was

00:34:04.560 what was out of church hearings in the mid 70s exactly exactly because what happened in the church

00:34:09.580 hearings yes a lot of abuses by the federal government were uh exposed but what do people like that do

00:34:14.580 then well they adapt and so that adaptation has been occurring ever since the church hearings

00:34:19.340 and so i wanted to really look into that and then create a character that could go and

00:34:23.960 take those people off the battlefield so um i have read um many uh very very wise people uh from

00:34:34.400 washington or who watch washington and there is a problem with our intelligence community they're

00:34:39.580 they're now starting to say it's almost a fourth branch of government um and it silos everything

00:34:46.060 and tells the leaders what they want them to know and silo different branches of the government etc etc

00:34:53.060 um and they're running things this is this is the conjecture that they're actually running things

00:34:59.200 is it possible to reign these these intelligence agencies and the doj and you know state department

00:35:08.660 is it possible to reel them back in that is the real question and uh you know they are gigantic

00:35:15.800 bureaucracies with unelected officials that are in place that can just wait out uh any politicians

00:35:21.520 that get elected that do attempt to make changes uh so they are such large bureaucracies i am not sure

00:35:27.780 uh and that's that's the real question that's what i explore really in these novels as well

00:35:32.320 but but what's so sad especially to the citizenry is that these institutions have been so politicized

00:35:38.260 um that uh it's to the detriment of us as the voters as citizens and now you have institutions

00:35:46.040 that uh that benefit from our division um mainly i'm talking about obviously a political class

00:35:53.740 and tech and uh the tech uh oligarchy and we're walking right into this ambush it's like an l ambush

00:36:00.320 of uh politicians and this and this tech monopoly and in we walk here as citizens um and i'm not sure

00:36:08.540 how you how we get out of that but uh they are the ones that directly benefit from this division uh and

00:36:16.580 that includes these institutions that fall under those political classes that have all been

00:36:20.700 politicized obviously um so how do we get out of that that's that's a question i like to explore

00:36:25.600 in my novels uh and uh but i don't know i i try to remain hopeful publicly but at the end of the day

00:36:31.600 when i sit down with my wife on the couch and we talk about everything going on in the world

00:36:34.440 it's uh sometimes difficult with everything going on out there i know i know um so we're talking to

00:36:40.540 jack car um the um the author um when we're looking at um the world right now i i look at ukraine and it

00:36:52.420 just doesn't feel right we're sending 60 billion dollars over there nobody's accounting for it um

00:37:00.240 it's a very dirty country um as far as corruption our leaders really i think on both sides but mainly on

00:37:10.000 the democrats but republicans are not entirely clean either um have been especially the the biden has

00:37:16.340 been laundering money in my opinion and i think the evidence is pretty strong over in ukraine um

00:37:23.260 and it feels like i don't know it just feels like the world wants this war to reset everything

00:37:30.960 how do you feel about ukraine and where we're going

00:37:35.220 yeah so anytime i i see anything these days uh in the news or anything pop up on uh online

00:37:41.480 uh i ask myself how what action do they want me to take and how am i being manipulated um and that's

00:37:47.680 maybe a cynical way to look at it but with so many inputs out there today so many more than were out

00:37:53.680 there and 30 years ago obviously 50 years ago um you have to ask yourself how am i being manipulated

00:37:58.720 what action do these people want me to take and then look at it through that lens um in my second

00:38:04.380 novel true believer everything is speeding towards a russian invasion of ukraine um which is causing

00:38:10.460 some issues with the second season of the terminal list if we get one uh because now we can't have

00:38:15.480 that plot line because it actually happened um but when you see that happening you have to ask the why

00:38:21.260 what lessons can we learn and apply going forward uh did we possibly make mistakes along the way here

00:38:27.240 that helped uh help make this happen essentially and then you can ask some other questions uh some of

00:38:33.840 my sources out there saying uh hey we might want to look into investments that uh putin made through

00:38:39.840 uh relatives and uh through uh friendly oligarchs uh in the days weeks months leading up to the invasion

00:38:46.540 of ukraine and what those same people have done and invested since uh as far as shorting and futures and

00:38:53.720 that sort of a thing so it's something that i'm looking into because it's quite possible that uh

00:38:58.460 that putin got even wealthier after the invasion of ukraine oh i'm sure and having every i'm sure 0.71

00:39:04.320 he did exactly and everything being so interconnected at those those high levels um and we talked about

00:39:11.100 those 50 intelligence officials that got on tv uh last fall and uh told us all uh that about

00:39:17.260 russian disinformation as it applied to the biden family uh and those those and what happened to

00:39:22.740 those those 50 i think it was 50 um well nothing yeah it's accountability that we have nothing lost

00:39:28.000 and that accountability really that loss of accountability goes back to the end of world war

00:39:31.940 ii really 1947 um with the establishment of our intelligence agencies and the military

00:39:37.140 industrial complex as we understand it today um but those were back in the beginnings there but up

00:39:42.160 until that point senior military leaders were held to account for their failures

00:39:46.000 and for whatever reason after world war ii that stopped happening uh george marshall held military

00:39:51.600 leaders accountable for what they did uh before world war ii during world war ii and that's how we

00:39:56.600 got the names that we can all recite today of those generals and admirals that led our victory and uh

00:40:02.080 today we have the exact opposite and what do we have now also well a recruiting problem for the

00:40:06.580 military why do we think that is well because no one has trust in those senior military leaders that

00:40:10.980 are going to be sending young men and women off to war and uh so we've lost that trust that

00:40:15.640 trust has been completely eroded and that is because of the lack of accountability at those

00:40:19.140 senior levels yeah it's not that i mean you know it's not even that i don't trust this commander

00:40:25.500 in chief to know what the best thing to do is along with the leadership but it's also that they i mean

00:40:32.280 i don't trust that they're fighting uh the right fights that he will pick the right fights or fight

00:40:38.300 the right fights in the right way and the righteous fights um i mean i just don't know what we stand for

00:40:45.700 right now and they're they're cleaning out the military and so many people are leaving because

00:40:51.080 of the vaccines and then they're cleaning out the military you know doing a a political purge it's just

00:40:57.660 a very dangerous time it really is i mean we're so divided um we've been divided before which gives me

00:41:04.100 hope because we did come back together after after the civil war so i do look at that case uh to give

00:41:08.700 me a little bit of hope um but many cases were manipulated into that division by the very entities

00:41:13.380 who directly benefit from it uh those politicians and tech companies we talked about um but uh it's

00:41:19.440 so bad that if one side and quote unquote side says that uh we need to secure our borders the other side

00:41:25.240 has to take the opposite position of that because they can't possibly find any common ground with the

00:41:31.660 other quote unquote correct side uh we've lost all logic and common sense and uh interestingly enough

00:41:37.780 that george marshall and carl von klausowitz both thought that common sense was the most important

00:41:41.760 attribute of any leader and we have completely lost that across our uh politics and our discourse in

00:41:48.120 this country unfortunately uh we're talking to jack carr the author of the terminal list which is a book

00:41:55.260 he's got a series out number six is coming out here uh soon and is also amazon prime's adaptation of

00:42:02.720 the first book the terminal list uh played by chris pratt book and uh series absolutely worth watching

00:42:10.000 jack thank you so much again for being on with us i just uh i really enjoy our talks i really have

00:42:16.660 been looking forward to this uh conversation for a couple weeks um the um let me just ask you about

00:42:23.040 nancy pelosi in taiwan we normally will send people over to countries like that and then announce

00:42:30.840 the trip after we leave so you don't put yourself in this situation again i don't know if it's incompetence

00:42:37.740 or what but uh we've been you know announcing it haven't even announced a date and now china said in today's

00:42:45.140 headline it is uh those who play with fire get burned and they are really threatening us i don't think

00:42:52.640 they have the capability at this time to go into taiwan but what do we do here and how dangerous is

00:42:59.860 this trip well china has always believed that taiwan is just a province of china um so a lot of it back

00:43:07.320 to us not being able to put ourselves in our enemies shoes or our opponents shoes our adversary as

00:43:12.820 adversaries shoes and look at the world through their perspective and then make wise decisions based on

00:43:19.420 that we keep looking at things through this western lens we did in afghanistan we did it in iraq

00:43:23.880 we're doing it in uh in ukraine you know no matter how there's a few different other aspects to that

00:43:30.880 as well but we've done it to china for the last 50 years uh and we can't seem to get away from that 0.99

00:43:38.060 we were very reactionary um uh and it's one of those one of those places that we thought was just

00:43:44.840 going to take care of itself um and that's obviously not happened i mean since the 70s

00:43:50.120 really that's been the policy if you look all the way through the 80s we just figure that the taiwan

00:43:54.420 china situation uh will just over time things will settle down everyone will uh kind of join onto this

00:44:00.440 new this band of nations that realizes that that capitalism and uh and free markets are the way

00:44:06.640 ahead and all that sort of things we just let it simmer and now we have this situation that

00:44:12.380 could turn into to burning all of us but it's really because we can't look at things through

00:44:16.760 our enemy's eyes and we think we look at things through a four-year type of a uh yes eight years

00:44:24.120 for the real deep thinkers among us maybe um where they're thinking not just decades but they're thinking

00:44:29.740 a century ahead and making moves that put them in a position of dominance uh in the years ahead but

00:44:36.340 they're not thinking of those election cycles uh one because well they don't have to but uh they're not

00:44:40.880 short-sighted we are the short-sighted ones and we prove that time and time again to the detriment

00:44:45.400 really not just of the united states but of the world and we this is totally i mean at least our

00:44:51.900 enemies were our enemies for a long time we understood that and uh and uh and we're still

00:44:57.400 kind of moving in the same direction now we're just flip-flopping around every four years it's ridiculous

00:45:02.900 jack i'm sorry i'm out of time is there going to be a second season terminal list that's the real

00:45:08.840 question and uh you'll be one of the first to know god i get word all right i'm gonna hold you to

00:45:15.040 that all right good thank you so much uh it has a score of 95 on rotten tomatoes the critics hate it

00:45:23.400 39 but that to me is just an endorsement to make sure you're watching it on amazon prime

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 29, 2022

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