On today's show, we have a special guest, Rob Armari of the New York Post, who tells us what's going on behind the scenes at Facebook and why they're hiring Chinese coders to help them find and suppress hate speech.
00:02:24.140He is the op-ed editor of the New York Post.
00:02:25.980He was with us earlier this week or last week talking about being banned and still not having access.
00:02:33.260The New York Post still doesn't have access to their Twitter feed and they won't get it until they retract the Hunter Biden story, which is looking more and more like the biggest scandal in American political history every single day.
00:03:29.740And the gist of the story is that last week, after observing what what Facebook was doing to the New York Post, former Facebook high ranking insider got in touch with me and shared a number of things.
00:03:46.640But among the things he shared was a an opportunity to shed light on the actual mechanics of how Twitter does its censorship.
00:04:19.640And it's a team that is mostly based in Seattle, Washington.
00:04:24.200And this insider shared me shared with me the directory of the staffers who work on that team.
00:04:30.900And he noted and we verified using LinkedIn that at least six of these team members are Chinese nationals.
00:04:40.560What the team does is they basically use machine learning, teaching computers to do things on their own without the need for direct human action.
00:04:50.060So they use machine learning and what's called neural networks to rejigger the news feed that you get.
00:04:58.260So you have Glenn's Facebook feed, what you see, what all your friends have shared.
00:05:03.320What this team does is ensure that certain content goes up on top.
00:05:07.720And for that, they get discretionary bonuses, according to the insider.
00:05:11.760But it also ensures that certain other content shows dead last.
00:05:15.420Like, for example, in this case, it seems like this is a mechanism to use a New York Post story that's damning about Hunter and Joe Biden three weeks out before an election.
00:05:44.100Well, what I looked up is, and out of courtesy to Facebook, when we reached out to them, we didn't share their names, even though we have their names.
00:05:51.240We have a lot of information about them that you can access once you know their names and where they work.
00:05:56.780But we didn't share that just out of courtesy to Facebook.
00:05:59.880What we did find is that, you know, at least one of them used to work for Huawei, which is a Chinese tech conglomerate that is closely bound up with the Chinese regime.
00:06:12.220A lot of them went to universities like University of Nanjing, the Chinese Academy of Sciences.
00:06:18.180These are all, you know, it's not like here where it's like, you know, I don't know, George Washington, you or what have you.
00:06:23.940So these are all state-based, state-supported entities, and they have deep links to the Chinese security apparatus.
00:06:34.420So even though we don't know exactly whether they did censorship for the Chinese regime, what we do know is that the institutions that train them, you know, are not our state entities.
00:06:44.520And another one worked for, I don't know, the Signal Service, Signal Telegraph Service for the Chinese Railway, again, a state enterprise.
00:06:55.800And look, because they're H-1Bs, you know, a lot of tech companies hire H-1B employees, Indians, Chinese, Eastern Europeans.
00:07:05.080It's not all nefarious. A lot of them, to be honest, just, you know, we have nothing against the fact that there's Chinese people working at Facebook.
00:07:13.300A lot of them just want to, you know, share in the American dream and settle in this country.
00:07:17.620But because they're H-1Bs, it means that some of them could go back.
00:07:20.860So another worry is, will they then take back the techniques for social control that they perfected and learned at Facebook to the most repressive society when it comes to this stuff,
00:07:34.240and help Xi Jinping further repress the free flow of information in his own society?
00:07:57.180We have it from several, multiple sources, including a guy who was the CEO of the Biden firm that was, you know, putting the Chinese deal together,
00:08:09.660confirming that that email is true, that the big guy is Joe Biden.
00:08:15.760We have all that, and yet it's still being called a conspiracy theory, and you're not able to get your accounts back on social media.
00:08:24.440Now, bear in mind, the gentleman you're talking about is a U.S. Navy veteran, served four years, and then got into business, including probably to his regret with Hunter Biden.
00:08:36.080And, you know, he has come out, come clean with a statement saying, I, to the extent that I have made political contributions, which are small, I've made them to democratic causes and candidates.
00:08:50.440So he's not some Republican, this is Hunter Biden's business partner.
00:08:56.880And he's saying, as a patriot, as someone who served in the U.S. military and the armed forces, it offends me that people talk about this stuff as Russian disinformation.
00:09:05.540Because it sullies his reputation, right?
00:09:09.100When you talk about something that was a Russian conspiracy, so he just said, because of my conscience, and I'm paraphrasing, but basically, my conscience tells me to come out clean and say, this is not Russian disinformation.
00:09:19.340A lot of stuff that was anti-Trump the past four years, that Facebook and Twitter never censored, truly was Russian disinformation, not least the famous, infamous dossier, the P-tape and so forth.
00:09:34.580This guy is saying, you know, the stuff that the Post reporter is not Russian disinformation.
00:09:39.680And I think a lot of pundits, reporters, not to mention big tech CEOs, owe the New York Post a groveling apology, not that I'm holding my breath.
00:09:50.740Yesterday, the DNI confirmed that Iran, the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, has interfered with this election to damage Donald Trump by sending threatening emails to Democratic voters while posing as the Proud Boys.
00:10:11.420So CNN, first of all, did not cover this.
00:10:16.140This is the federal government saying, here's the evidence.
00:10:20.800They've gotten voter registration information, and they have been intimidating Democrats to try to cause hatred and possible violence with the Proud Boys.
00:10:33.520CNN not only didn't cover that FBI briefing, they then went on the air and said the only reason Iran had that Proud Boys moniker is because of Donald Trump talking about them all the time.
00:10:48.140But as far as I can find, the only time he talked about the Proud Boys is when he's asked about them and told to deny them.
00:10:54.320Yes, and another utterly, utterly shameful thing, again, across the left of center media, let's whatever, call them left media, let's be honest, is the fact that when the DNI, the director of national intelligence, is a longstanding national security professional, comes forward and says the post material about the Hunter files is not Russian disinformation.
00:11:20.300They brought out lots of people who said, well, he's just in the tank for Trump.
00:11:26.860I mean, this is so irresponsible, so irresponsible.
00:11:30.440It so undermines any remaining trust that people have in the intelligence apparatus of this country.
00:11:37.080When they so, to the extent that it's sized apparatus the past four years, and then when it does produce a finding that's contrary to Democratic preferences, then the intelligence apparatus is in the tank for Trump too.
00:11:50.860I mean, this is really impossible, the poison and the damage of what this story has caused will be with us for a long time, no matter who wins the election in November.
00:12:02.260Well, I think it's interesting that they didn't ban the Lincoln Project for tweeting out the Proud Boys were emailing people and threatening Democrats.
00:12:13.600That that that wasn't that wasn't a problem that went through.
00:12:19.780In fact, they were just allowed to delete that after the press conference yesterday.
00:12:24.680But it was the Lincoln Project that helped Iran push all of these lies through.
00:12:30.480It's it's it's really criminal what's going on.
00:13:22.280Woke conservatives are ones like, I would say, Attorney General Bill Barr or Senator Josh Hawley or Senator Tom Cotton and others who are like, yeah, we know what's going on.
00:13:33.180Because at this point, Twitter and Facebook are not just tech firms.
00:13:37.840They're not just part of commerce in this country.
00:13:40.100They are political entities taking political action, but unaccountably.
00:13:45.300In the case of Facebook, we now know with the help of Chinese nationals who are computer scientists, they're doing this stuff, yet they're not subject to any political accountability in this country.
00:14:00.060The Senate, I believe, needs to subpoena the two heads of the two big ones, Twitter and Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey.
00:14:07.040And then to begin to think about how do we change the governing law, which is Section 230, because free speech is dying, but it's dying in the private sphere.
00:14:18.220And a lot of conservatives, again, are so hung up on whether it's a private entity doing it or a public one that they can't see that, OK, well, Facebook effectively is shutting down free speech.
00:14:28.200And we can't say, well, that's OK, because it's free enterprise doing it.
00:14:32.320I really only have about 20 seconds for you to answer this, but I can't let you go and not ask you, do you think the moderator is going to bring this up tonight in a non-conspiratorial way?
00:14:50.720And do you think it matters to the average American?
00:15:11.060It's this is no longer just about a story of corruption, which is deeply corroborated.
00:15:15.260It's also a story about whether our historic rights as Americans to report the news and then make up our own minds about it, get to see what's out there.
00:15:28.520And the fact, again, that it's a private company doing it should be irrelevant to the Trump administration, to the GOP, to the broader conservative movement.
00:16:24.860But from their golden tower, they always can feel they can do it much better than those who've gone out and taken a risk, figured things out, failed, and got back up again.
00:16:33.000So that's what we're up against, those who've never understood what it is to go out there and make it happen from the very beginning.
00:16:38.740So, Burgess, what are you hearing from people that you talk to?
00:16:42.720What is the mood and what are people, do you believe, going to vote for in the end?
00:16:48.400Do they understand what's really at stake?
00:16:51.900Well, you know, Glenn, I have, I guess I'm a little eternal optimist.
00:16:55.480I have so much faith in American people, just as I do in the faith in Utahans.
00:17:01.000We have a natural instinct, our DNA, that has us drift toward the light.
00:17:06.080It's been our, it's our 240-year history.
00:17:09.180And so I see, as I look back on our history, that we've always been a country of miracles.
00:17:13.460That's because of our foundations, our dear Christian values.
00:17:17.900That doesn't end because you have certain people who say that he doesn't exist.
00:17:22.000So I truly believe that this coming November, when the dust settles, not only will we have a president who's going to take us the next four years to show us again what American-leaving leadership looks like,
00:17:34.220we're going to have a House and a Senate with more backbone that will actually be able to push the process forward and be able to replicate what he's doing.
00:17:42.420So I'm one of those guys, again, I would say don't worry about the polls.
00:17:46.160Let's think about the American people.
00:17:48.740How do we come through when times get tough, when we always just win babies?
00:17:52.400So I'm looking forward to seeing that happen once again.
00:17:54.080So you're in the 4th District, which has a lot of Republicans in there, but also has a lot of independents and moderates, people who consider themselves moderate.
00:18:06.200The guy that you're running against is trying to appeal to, he's saying he's a moderate Democrat.
00:18:12.460But there is no such thing as a moderate Democrat anymore.
00:18:38.480And I tell you what I see is a good thing, Glenn.
00:18:43.180This last year has been a really tough one for us.
00:18:46.000But what we do when things get really tough, whether it be 9-11, Pearl Harbor, we just come together.
00:18:52.900We kind of come out of that little optimism shell, that dream shell that we normally have.
00:18:57.420And we start having conversations across the board.
00:18:59.360So I think we're going to have – we have Democrats, we have independents, we have Republicans talking about things that we might not have talked about a couple years ago, how close it came to losing our freedom.
00:19:09.940They're going to worship our faith, to take our kids to school.
00:19:13.260Those things across the board are concerning, and I think the American people will have this moment in which we realize that we cannot go toward this darkness that the Democratic Party offers.
00:19:23.500So in this case here, right now I'm up one point, but we feel a really good ground game here with a lot of excitement.
00:19:31.740And so, by the way, it's Burgess for Utah.
00:19:33.640Burgess for Utah, those who want to support me because we're all – we're there, and, of course, we have the next two weeks.
00:19:38.760But I feel very, very good that Utahns will represent our country well, and the values will help push our country back in the right direction.
00:19:47.080Let me ask you a final question here, Burgess.
00:19:49.480Tonight the president is facing a debate.
00:19:53.240As somebody who has lived a long life of, you know, through the 1960s and through the civil rights movement and now with Black Lives Matter and everything else, there seems to be a movement.
00:20:13.380I mean, when you get 50 Cent coming out and saying he's voting for Donald Trump and you see the polls of African Americans, is this movement, this walk away from the Democratic Party, is this real?
00:20:30.080And I tell you, this is what happens when Americans don't care what color we are, what our background, we love the idea of freedom, of opportunity.
00:20:36.260And when we had a chance, we had a window of time where Americans crossed the board, the lowest unemployment in the history of our country for Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, women, teens.
00:20:46.200Those kind of feelings, those emotions come aboard.
00:20:49.220And once we feel it, we'll never go back to the dark.
00:20:53.760I think the Black community is going to make our nation proud as we start voting for the values that have always been intrinsic within us.
00:21:01.000We're finally saying we do not want to stay on this plantation any longer.
00:21:04.020And when I walk through the airports and see the MAGA hats from Black Americans across the board, it says that this is the real deal, and it scares the left to death.
00:21:43.100You can find his website, burgess4utah.com.
00:21:46.800A lot of money from the left is being shoveled into this seat to expand the Democratic arm.
00:21:55.880This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:22:01.040Oh, this has got to be a day that James Lindsay prayed.
00:22:08.820I mean, I think he's an agnostic, so I don't know if he prayed, but if he was a praying man, it would be one of those days where you're like,
00:22:17.460please, dear Lord, don't ever have me on the Glenn Beck Program talking about Donald Trump that I'm going to vote for him.
00:22:39.460I have been so impressed with you and your friends that you have been willing.
00:22:45.640You know when you're doing something that you believe in, when it's something you really don't want to do, but you're just like, I got to do it.
00:22:59.240And you have been that guy ever since I've known you.
00:23:03.660You are the author of Cynical Theories, the co-founder of New Discourses, and you just put a podcast out where you explained why you're in this position now.
00:23:17.760A lot of people don't understand what's happening with the election that we have right now.
00:23:22.420They think it is a choice between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:23:27.160And at the surface level, of course, it is.
00:23:29.400We're voting for each candidate to be duly put into the office of president.
00:23:34.020But that's not what we really have going on, because we have in Donald Trump a man who's going to govern, as we've all seen, the way that he feels like he's going to govern.
00:23:44.300And we have in Joe Biden a man who's captured by a movement that wants to tear apart the American society at its very foundation.
00:23:51.800People think that Donald Trump is the cause of chaos, and in some ways he is.
00:24:17.720And one of the things that really concerned me in 2016 and really up until COVID is I thought this guy, you know, being a CEO was not going to be the guy who says, no, we can't do that.
00:24:30.220The Constitution doesn't allow me to do that.
00:24:32.180And I thought he would act on his instincts if there were real problems.
00:24:36.680He has fought all of that authoritarian, not only maybe an instinct in him or a CEO instinct, but the press and the left were calling for him to take control of companies and take control of states, and he rejected it.
00:24:56.840His rhetoric is very often kind of authoritarian, and it has been something that a lot of people have been duly concerned about for the last, I guess, three, three and a half years.
00:25:06.680And it seemed like the kind of thing that would happen.
00:25:27.660I mean, I am terrified of the left, not necessarily of Democrats like my Democratic neighbors, but I, the left and those who want power so badly, they'll do anything to get it.
00:25:40.720But I think these guys are truly frightening, because look at what they did to Nancy Pelosi, or not Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein.
00:25:49.540All she said was, this hearing was really good and productive, and it was one of the best Supreme Court hearings we've had in a long time.
00:25:57.520Chuck Schumer said, I had a sit down with her, because the left was demanding that she be disciplined for saying that it was a good hearing.
00:26:06.280Yeah, they're completely off the rails.
00:26:09.780And that's what people kind of need to understand, is when I said at the beginning that this is an election between Donald Trump and then a movement that's controlling Joe Biden, the movement is the one that wants to sit down and talk to people who have their own mind.
00:26:23.420I don't know how many of your listeners or how familiar you are with the Evergreen State College situation, where that college melted down in 2017.
00:26:31.920I see Joe Biden as the George Bridges character.
00:26:35.980George Bridges was the president of Evergreen.
00:26:39.560He did not come in as a woke president to run the college.
00:26:42.400He came in as a guy who was going to be permissive to the radicals, and in particular, a couple of faculty members and a contingent of students that were a small minority of the college.
00:26:53.780And that's what it takes, because people don't know how this operates.
00:26:57.220This ideology operates by taking over administrative bureaucracies, what a lot of your listeners will call the administrative state.
00:27:04.480That's where they will work their way in.
00:27:06.440And the question is, do you have a guy in office who's fighting it?
00:27:09.040Trump just put out the executive order against critical race theory.
00:27:12.480Or do you have a guy in office who's going to either permit it or put the accelerator to the floor, like I talked about on your podcast?
00:27:18.820Biden is not only going to be permissive of it, he's going to put the accelerator to the floor.
00:27:22.400He's talking about wanting to add justices to the Supreme Court, add seats.
00:27:28.440I think he said something about it today, or CNN reported that.
00:27:32.020There are articles coming out on the left talking about wanting to abolish the Constitution.
00:27:37.080We hear abolish the police, abolish all the things we don't like, now abolish the Constitution.
00:28:13.840The Fourth Amendment protects against search and seizure of property.
00:28:17.720Well, if you mainline a narrative that we live on stolen land, the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect against the search and seizure of stolen property.
00:28:25.220So if we live on stolen land and everything was made out of stolen labor from slavery, and those are the main narratives, all of a sudden the Fourth Amendment protects you against nothing.
00:28:35.300And so you don't have to change the Constitution.
00:28:37.380You don't even have to abolish the Constitution.
00:28:39.260And if we fill our administrative state with people who think this way, who want power and want to exercise power in this way, it doesn't actually matter who the president is.
00:28:48.340It doesn't matter who the legislators are.
00:28:51.040That's how they're going to operate at that level of administrative policy that's mostly unaccountable to voters.
00:28:57.460We're talking to James Lindsay, the author of the book that I highly recommend, Cynical Theories, about how he has gone from never vote for a Republican, never vote for Donald Trump, to now I must vote for Donald Trump.
00:29:13.780The press has gone really, truly over the edge.
00:29:23.980They have looked into the abyss and jumped.
00:29:27.500They are now talking about censoring anything that they disagree with.
00:29:35.840The evidence now on these emails that are coming out against Joe Biden that shows that he is absolutely corrupt, they're being verified left and right.
00:29:48.180There are more emails that are matching it.
00:29:50.300One of the guys who was the CEO of the Hunter Biden company that did the email or was on the email chain, did the deal in China.
00:29:58.640He's come out today and said, this has got to stop.
00:30:07.360And yet they are not talking about it at all.
00:30:10.820There's I mean, there's no chance of getting the truth anymore from the media.
00:30:15.400I mean, if you look even at the critical race theory executive order, we saw that immediately they came out just person after person after person, outlet after outlet.
00:30:29.520They're still doing it, saying that President Trump has banned diversity training or has banned racial sensitivity training.
00:30:38.080And if you read the executive order, he didn't even technically ban critical race theory.
00:30:42.200He banned the divisive things that critical race theory does, and he banned the teaching of it as fact.
00:30:48.400He says, in fact, in the executive order, it says you can teach it in the sense that you might teach a comparative religions class where you'd say Christianity believes this.
00:30:56.960Islam believes that these are what different religions believe.
00:31:50.900And this is the movement that is controlling the Democratic Party.
00:31:54.860It is my belief that there has been a largely effective kind of velvet coup, silent coup of the Democratic Party that's turned it completely in the control of this movement.
00:32:05.240And that's what we're going to be electing if we elect Joe Biden.
00:32:43.880Well, first, I will tell you that we can include good friends.
00:32:47.000So I've definitely been thrown under the bus by good friends and family members, as a matter of fact, for this.
00:32:52.600But that said, I mean, written out of their lives.
00:32:55.160And so that said, though, there are people waking up.
00:32:58.720And as a matter of fact, I'm being told that the podcast about about why I said it's called Biden is not the room where we're where it's not Biden that matters.
00:33:07.920It's the movement that controls Biden, the podcast that put on a new discourses yesterday.
00:33:11.960I'm having people tell me that this is having an amazing impact, that people are seeing that the censorship, that these willingness, that the willingness, the express willingness to change the fundamental structure of our government and to hold the Constitution in open contempt.
00:33:27.440That's scaring people even more than the riots and the excuse.
00:33:33.360OK, so it's the excuses that were made for the riots that really have scared people.
00:33:38.400Our main media, many even left winging and Democratic politicians speaking up, saying that there are reasons that these riots, these arsons, these these lawless behaviors all summer were justified.
00:33:49.440And let's name the reason as racism and say it's a public health threat that we now have to treat like it's a pandemic.
00:33:58.180I mean, people are actually horrified by this.
00:34:00.460So I'm seeing kind of three kinds of responses so far.
00:34:06.420One is that people are very happy if they are supposed to lean to the right.
00:34:11.240One is that people are mortified and are hoping that I'll reconsider and are reaching out to me vigorously.
00:34:16.620And one is that people are being quite nasty with me.
00:34:19.160But then in the kind of the corner, I'm also hearing a bit of a significant amount, really.
00:34:59.920If you're willing to open your eyes, you see what we are really facing.
00:35:05.440James, I I from the first time we met and and we we talked, I found you to be an honest broker that was willing to listen and have their mind changed if you could present a good case.
00:35:25.300And I think I struck you as the same kind of person.
00:35:29.760There's things that I do and believe I don't want to believe because it's not fun, but I do.