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On today's show, we have Belief TV's own Jason Whitlock on to talk about a weekend involving a giant mountain lion. Plus, the latest on the latest in the George Soro investigation, and more!
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welcome to the podcast we have belief tv's own jason whitlock on today jeremiah johnson returns
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to talk about a kind of an important weekend if you happen to be a person of faith also pat gray
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joins us and gabe kaminsky to talk about a new george soros investigation interesting as you'll
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hear glenn perhaps falls asleep in the middle of the gabe kaminsky interview i i mean i don't know
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uh let's see if we can wake glenn up now for the commercial before we get to the podcast glenn
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you're listening to the best of the glenn back program welcome to the glenn back program i'm glad
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you're here um i think i'm coming home uh maybe maybe tomorrow uh yesterday i told you that we
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were up at the ranch and i have a broadcast barn uh and i walk you know in the middle of the night
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early early in the morning uh completely dark and i walk from the the ranch house to the barn to do
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the broadcast and um yesterday i had the door open and uh jamie the engineer was sitting in here with
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me and we heard like and then all these birds fly but it was a weird something uh and i said i looked
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at him and i said what the heck is that he said i i don't know birds and something getting killed or
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something i don't know and so uh uh we just kind of dismissed it and about five minutes later i walked
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out of the uh broadcast barn and you know that purr that cats do except it was like really low it was like
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uh and the birds all of a sudden the birds out of this bush just like lit off and uh then that
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kind of low growl and it backed back into the broadcast part i went i i think you're kitty kitty
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kitty i think there's a mountain lion out there yesterday after the show one of the guys here in
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town that runs a country store um jamie went down he was having lunch he was talking to the guys there
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and he said yeah we we think we found a really big mountain lion that may be stalking us and the guy
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said oh yeah there was a a photographer a wildlife photographer that just came down just a i guess a
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couple of weeks ago um and had been tracking this mountain lion of unusual size uh and tracked it to
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the ranch and went down to the store and was like how do i get permission to get onto this ranch
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to continue tracking him so we have i know it's like the fire swamps but we have a cat of unusual
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size uh and uh i think i'm gonna come home i kind of you know as much as i like the mountains and
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everything you know pat but the giant cat for this time of year he should really enjoy the natural
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beauty of the outdoors you know and those of us with broadcast barns i i have a hard time leaving
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mine uh yeah i do shut up i do i gotta tell you man i you know armadillos usually prowl around my
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broadcast barn no yeah that's terrible usually i gotta tell you you know we have all been talking
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about we gotta be prepared we gotta be able to you know we gotta be able to amputate legs if we have
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to without any medicine you know i don't want to live in that world i don't want to live in that
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world i know i mean a cat a cat we were driving home late late last night uh and tanya had flown
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in and i had just flown in i gave a speech up in uh in boise idaho and uh so i had just flown back and
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it's about midnight last night and as we're driving in uh one of the guys who knows apparently about
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cats uh said yeah they they're very they'll they'll stalk you if they know there are humans around and
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they're hungry they'll lay in wait and they'll stalk you and i'm like is it too late to get back on the
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plane can we can we just go home i just rather worry about an angry mob yeah that's frightening i'd
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rather deal with that it is yeah it's terrifying there's been something that's happened like it
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you know there's a convergence lately of like conservative thought and this like uh i don't
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know natural struggle right like we're like you know i'm gonna get up and i'm gonna take a cold
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shower every day or i'm gonna do a cold plunge in the morning yeah yeah and like there's there's a lot
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i like about that but i don't like it in reality like i like the thought of like we need to be
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challenged and push to our limits i don't want to be challenged or push to my limit though yeah no
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i think there's a big difference between a cold plunge and a mountain lion right i get that i was
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talking to somebody last night about what about uh theodore roosevelt theodore roosevelt i mean you
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want to talk about a different age theodore roosevelt used to take his like six-year-old
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kids out into the woods and leave them there and go find your way home you're gonna be independent
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what wow i know at 60 i don't want somebody to leave me alone in the woods and say find your way
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home no thank you no no it's just a different world even if the woods are on like the outskirts
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of a target parking lot i don't want to be left there no no you know it could be victoria park
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and i don't want to be left there no thank you uh all right welcome to pat gray from pat gray
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unleashed pat what's the big story of the day uh one of my favorite stories is that uh the biden
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administration has allotted some money in the new biden budget for the border finally the border
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security we're going to get some security there and they've allocated about 380 million dollars
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to support enhanced border security in egypt lebanon oman tunisia and jordan so oh great
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we got that going for us i will tell you though you've left something out he's double dipped on
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georgia or jordan because there are two um pieces in this in the current legislation that just passed
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last week where jordan gets uh extra money for their border and then uh in a second part of the
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bill jordan gets extra money with everybody else for their border but uh well that's part of our
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jordan first policy which i think a lot of americans are totally in love with really yeah we have a
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jordan first policy policy yeah you know it's you know what's crazy do you know why they're protecting
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their borders jordans because of the palestinians oh yeah right they don't want the palestinians
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crossing their borders so we are supporting the palestinians and then going and supporting the
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countries that are trying to keep the palestinians out right i mean have you seen the border between
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egypt and the gaza strap it's incredible it's oh it's incorrect it's impenetrable i mean they really
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don't want palestinians coming into their country oh the only thing they don't have are those big
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those big catapults that take the flaming rocks yeah that's about it and i think those are on the
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way medieval that's what they're going to use this 380 million dollars for rock catapults it's it's
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absolutely amazing and it's it's fascinating to me we're the only country on earth that is expected
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not to do anything at the border that it just we have to put the welcome mat out no matter where
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you come from no matter what you're doing here no matter whether you're coming illegally with drugs
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or terrorism or whatever come on in yeah and we're certainly the only country on earth that is expected
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to do all of this for other nations like i yes i mean yeah yes like i get you know if we were in a
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place of true prosperity where we had you know trillions of dollars in you know not in deficits
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but you know the other way around where you have more money than you need i don't know this sounds
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crazy for for any government official who might be listening but it is theoretically possible to have
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more money than you spent um and if we had that like maybe you'd understand right like people saying
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like hey you need to help out now i don't know that still wouldn't be our jobs but when you are
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owing 20 30 40 80 100 trillion dollars for things you can't pay for how could it possibly be part of
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the package that we're going to be doing this yeah well wait a minute wait a minute i mean it you you
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could make the case that if we had you know let's say 40 trillion dollars in you know surplus walking
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around money yeah you know that was just sitting in a bank you could make the case okay let's help
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jordan and egypt and everything else but you couldn't make the case let's help jordan and and
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egypt and everybody else with their borders and fund hamas it would still be insane yes even if you
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had the money and we're doing it and we're doing it and we're doing it and we're at a point where
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our government is changing roles now with israel we're now we're like letting these resolutions go
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through that condemn israel they say that they can't go into certain areas we're now abstaining
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from those votes instead of opposing them as we always have and at the same time we don't seem to
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do anything to criticize egypt or jordan for not helping in this situation why don't they reports on
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it right and they're saying that that the people in the the people in the gaza strip are now down to
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rafa and they've got nowhere to go after this well whose fault is that yeah it's the arab country's fault
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because they could go there if you allowed it but they won't because every time they have opened
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their border every country in the middle east has had a revolution started by the palestinians in those
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countries they know they don't want them there they know if it wasn't for israel the middle east would
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declare um the palestinians an enemy of their states they just use them to destabilize and to
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hurt israel they don't have any love for them at all none that's for sure none well jordan um occupies
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twice the palestinian territory that israel does you never hear about that yeah nobody ever talks about
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that why aren't they to blame for occupying palestinian territory it's it's just such a
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ridiculous situation and and israel's an impossible situation uh there's uh some some new things here
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that i want to talk to you about um and i think it's very exciting you guys are going to be very
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excited in the next 12 to 24 months swift you know the swift system of you know monetary exchanges
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that we kicked russia out of swift is going to be launching a new central bank digital currency
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platform in the next 12 to 24 months yeah yeah but i want to remind you the government has no intention
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of doing anything like this if anybody says anything about things like this we've been told for a very
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long time that's a conspiracy theory except now it's not it's just a story from reuters uh thank
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that's mypatriotsupply.com now back to the podcast this is the best of the glenn beck program and we
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really want to thank you for listening yesterday we had jeremiah j johnston on he is the author of a
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book called body of proof he is a he's got his doctorate but so do i so i mean what does that mean
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i'm a doctor of of uh humanities and i i didn't even study for the test but uh he's also the
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president of christian thinkers society presto and baptist church uh and we were talking yesterday
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about the shroud of turin which surprised me because a lot of people especially in the south baptist and
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and and evangelicals they don't necessarily hold to the traditions of the catholic church
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um and i i think we all have unbelievable pieces of the puzzle and one of those pieces i think is is
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the shroud of turin and uh i didn't know what to think about it until a few years ago but uh he's he's
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writing a whole book on the shroud of turin so we thought we would bring him back today
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this is the burial cloth uh of jesus christ that's what it's purported to be the burial cloth and it
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is a a reverse negative it is almost like when his body came back to life this way i view it his body
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came back to light uh life it's like the uh the burial cloth was like a film uh and it printed in a
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burst of light it printed the negative of his body in that cloth and nobody really knows how it was
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made if it is fake jeremiah welcome to the program glenn it's great to be back with you and i'm sure
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we have people that right now they're like thomas didymus remember thomas the twin that he said in
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john 20 verse 25 hey look you can say jesus is god good for you but unless i see his nail
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scarred hands unless i can put my hand in his side i won't believe well guess what we're going
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to do today on the glenn beck program you're going to be able to actually see the nail pierced hands
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of jesus thanks be to the shroud of turin okay so explain the history of the shroud of turin of where
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it came from when do we think that it first appeared absolutely and so let's and let's make
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sure we situate this because you bring up a really important point there has been a pejorative vibe
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towards the shroud by anyone who isn't catholic i want to remind our audience the catholic church
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they're the largest land owners on earth did you know that they actually have a lot of land
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they have a lot of assets and property and guess what it turns out they have some excellent
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artifacts for the christian faith c.s lewis amazing we've all heard of c.s lewis i love lewis i lived
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in oxford for three years glenn i didn't know it until this year jack graham my pastor and i went
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to oxford on an inspirational summer trip and then we went up and did some golfing at st andrews
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we literally went to lewis's home and i look up on lewis's home i don't know if you can see this but
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for the benefit of our audience i'm holding it right next to our foot my face i look up c.s lewis
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kept a picture of the shroud of turin in his bedroom next to his bed where he slept
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and the reason he did that lewis said i needed a reminder every morning and every evening that my
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god has a face and so we're not talking about something weird or french here even c.s lewis
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took it seriously so when did it first appear on the scene the this is what's remarkable out of the
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shroud of turin goes back far beyond the radiocarbon dating and as you point because i mean some people
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hear shroud they're like what is that as you pointed out this is a burial garment for jesus
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all four gospels say that joseph of arimathea and nicodemus two members of the sanhedrin
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remember if the sanhedrin condemned condemned a criminal to death it was according to the mishnah
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the sanhedrin had to bury the condemned criminal what do we see in the juridical procedure of jesus
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two members joseph of arimathea and nicodemus they take jesus and they wrap his body
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in a burial garment and they bury him in joseph of arimathea's tomb it's not like when you think of
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you know wrapping a body you think of like a mummy right but this is actually like a very long table
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cloth right very very long um and it's uh they laid it down then put the body in and then where the head
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is they took and they pulled that the rest of the fabric down to his feet so it is a double image
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of the back then a space and then the front exactly this body exactly and that is not unusual
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if you were into jewish burial traditions you would do that you might say oh glenn jeremiah there's no
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way that a burial shroud could last for 2 000 years give me a break well actually when you are a student
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of history you can see we even have a tar can dress linen shirt and guess what glenn it's 3 200 years
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older than the shroud of turin it's 5 000 years old so given the right set of circumstances
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linen will last forever so you're exactly right they laid and it's a 14 feet long it's about four feet
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wide so longer than our studio table here at mercury studios and what's fascinating is something
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occurred and i get i have the top five reasons why i went from skeptic i mean glenn i was a total
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skeptic until i went and wrote body of proof did the video series for the bible study body of proof
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in jerusalem went to the shroud exhibit had private access exhibited all looked at all the artifacts and
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then i came out with top five reasons that utterly took me from skeptic to total defender now of the
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shroud so let's share those number five we're gonna let's do a countdown you like countdowns glenn
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the shroud of turin is the most studied already artifact of the archaeological world there's not a
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close second and the second thing i want to say is it's also the most light about artifact in the
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archaeological world so we're not okay so wait let's start with let's start with the the first one
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which is the most studied how how do you know that and what has been done to it because i've read all
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the peer-reviewed journals so you don't have to glenn there's been an amazing um evidential history of
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the shroud of turin in 1978 the stirp team this is the strout strout of turin research project team
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went to italy they thought it'd be a free trip to italy they were all having drinks in the lobby of the
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hotel giggling that on the catholic church's dime they were going to have a free trip to italy they
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only needed two days to prove that it was a hoax and guess what nobody was giggling two days later
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they had approximately 120 hours to examine this very ancient shroud which has a very unique history
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i mean hitler tried to steal it they had to they had to save it from hitler's hands and during world
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war ii i mean the history of the shroud is just remarkable so these were not bible scholars these
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were not as far as i know there were outside of the priests that were kind of security overlooking
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the shroud while it was being looked at these were all weapons scientists barry schwartz who you
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interviewed and i encourage everyone to go back and watch the glenn beck interview with barry schwartz
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he was a nominal jew totally his only bias was he thought it was a hoax and a joke when he went there
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and now he's utterly convinced that it's not only not a hoax because as we'll talk about in a minute
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you can't you cannot if it's a hoax it's never been repeated he's convinced that it's an authentic
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burial shroud of jesus so it's the most studied cross-disciplinary artifact in the world and the
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new in the the in 19 the 1970s when barry was part of this as you said they all went in as skeptics
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and i believe it came out at the time that uh it was possible but the radiocarbon data was saying no
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it's like you know a thousand years later or something but something was wrong and i don't
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remember what it was maybe you do barry said it was only until later when technology changed right that
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they realized oh my gosh this is that old yeah and and so 1978 you have the original research project
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and they come out what they say is it's not a hoax there's no pigment there's no ink there's no dye
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the shroud has survived three fires it's been doused in water twice if it were if there was dye if there
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was paint it would have bled out it would have smeared so it's it's nothing and essentially they came
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out and said it's not a hoax we don't know what it is 10 years later 1988 and this is point number
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three in the countdown which we'll get to the 1988 radiocarbon dating was done so about 10 years after
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that original research project okay and this is when all the headlines came out glenn that said this
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is a total hoax the carbon 14 dating dated it to the late 13th early 14th century there's huge
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problems with that and we'll discuss that okay so uh number four number four science today and this
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is what really arrests my attention cannot explain how the image is in the cloth now glenn you've seen
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the shroud i mean it it's stunning the energy it would have taken i've never actually i've never
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actually seen it in person i was going to go to uh tour and i wanted to go this summer to tour and just
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to see it um because talking to barry schwartz has totally changed my mind on it um but you can't
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see it yeah because it's it's protected it's under a vault they bring it out every if every few years
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it's at saint john the baptist cathedral and the piedmont district of northern italy as you say in
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torrent italy by the way if you go to jerusalem there's an incredible shroud exhibit there that shows
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every aspect of the shroud but i'm talking not just scientists in general rocket scientists
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weapon scientists chemical scientists cannot explain how the image is in the shroud if it was
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a forgery if it was a hoax it's never been able to be repeated i mean this is unbelievable these
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aren't bible theologians or commentators saying it they're scientists saying we cannot explain how
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there's an image and here's the fascinating thing glenn do you know if you get closer than eight feet the
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image vanishes you actually have to stand back from it about eight feet to be able to fully see the
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image it's very unique you're listening to the best of glenn back check out the full show podcast to
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jason whitlock is one of my favorite people um and somebody that i really truly admire and i think is a
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great broadcaster um and not necessarily for the the show or his opinion or anything else but i think
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he's a great broadcaster because he is a man searching for truth and that is the most exciting
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part of people's lives and it'll be the part of your life that when you do if you've already done it
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uh you remember it this way if you haven't done it you will remember when you pushed yourself to figure out
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what you truly believe and i think jason is in that uh portion of his life in many areas and
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most people don't share that and he shares it every day uh he is the blaze tv host of fearless
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uh jason whitlock hello jason how are you glenn awesome introduction i appreciate that thank you
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you bet um and i want to talk to you about some of the things that you're going through uh right now
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and the things that you're discovering and things that you're doing this summer um i'm going to be
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joining you on one of your events that i i think is just so worthwhile but first can i take you to the
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news that i have not been following and i don't know if this is important or not p diddy i don't know
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what the hell is going on with him but i'm hearing talk like he is the new jeffrey epstein
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can you tell me this story yeah let me tell you why it's important for you and your audience and
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we unpacked this last week on my show trying to get a broader perspective on what's going on with diddy
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and it's about the music industry and it's about uh the push for nihilism and how they have manipulated
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uh our entire american culture to be more nihilistic and they've done it with music and hip-hop
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is at the forefront of that and so diddy is someone of marginal talent who's been installed
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and who has been allowed to use the music industry to uh sexually compromise young people
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celebrities other entertainers politicians or or whatever but it's like this whole the part of
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the realization and understanding we have to come to is like everything in culture tucker carlson talked
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about this a couple of weeks ago about just like architecture and how yeah everything not the same as it
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used to be and so in all the arts they're trying to push us towards a nihilistic worldview and they've
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done that with hip-hop and and p diddy is one of the faces and most powerful people in hip-hop uh but
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but again as i expounded on it's not just diddy it's like black rock and vanguard they actually own
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the music industry and and control the music wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait the investment
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houses of black rock and vanguard they own the music industry absolutely from sony music group
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they're they're the most invested in the music industry they're the most through viacom they own
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bet mtv vh1 they're in control of the music industry and and they also own the majority the overwhelming
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majority of stock in the private prison industry uh i think the stock name is called cxw now it's
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called core civic it used to be called uh corrections corporations of america and then they transition
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the name and so this whole hip-hop deal was about creating a culture where like prison is a rite of
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passage and corruption and criminality is just built into the system and it feeds the prison system the
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private prison industry and it's exploded but more than anything it's promoted a nihilistic view
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and a view that life really has no meaning and it's disconnected us from our moral principles and
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religious principles that's what diddy is the face of and that's why i'm glad he's getting his comeuppance
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and i'm i hope that they don't do a cover-up and not expose everyone involved because and it's not
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just hip-hop music has been headed this direction and pushing the nihilistic direction for a long time
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and this needs to be discussed and exposed that this isn't limited to black kids or the urban inner city
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the way they've pushed hip-hop and made it the most popular music in the world and they pushed it in
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sports and pushed it everywhere it's affecting everyone i have to tell you they're doing it now
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to uh the last bastion of decency in entertainment and that is um in nashville country music it is going
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woke and ugly and you know i i they are they have just infested everything and they're tearing it
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apart i mean you listen to popular music now i mean imagine the last time we went through this
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you know revolution kind of spirit with marxism it's back in the 60s and you had artists that were
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singing really uplifting stuff some of it was garbage but some of it just it was an empowering
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movement you listen to music now and it is disgusting it is all about i mean i challenge you
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to listen to especially hip-hop and uh and some popular music of that genre and i challenge you to
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find a song that isn't talking about somebody's butt or putting something in somebody's butt it i it's
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incredibly degrading glenn for someone like myself who's 56 and who grew up on r&b music r&b music
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used to be a lot of romantic love songs yeah yeah you can't find in r&b or hip-hop love is not
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remotely on the table no i mean it just not you go through the billboard top 100 love anything about
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love not remotely on the table if you want to listen to music that promotes love between a man and a
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woman you got to go listen to music made in the 60s 70s and 80s it's just disappeared this this is
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intentional they've just removed love from the culture so jason what is what is diddy
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accused of doing uh you know drugging raping uh young girls and young men uh sexually compromising
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and leveraging uh the entertainers that work for him uh employing a cleanup man named faeed muhammad
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who if you're familiar with the tv show ray donovan if you ever watch that on showtime
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this guy would go up and clean up the crimes that diddy and or any of his entertainers were involved
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on and there's these two lawsuits one that he settled but the second one with this rodney jones
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he hasn't settled there's allegations of shootings and murders and things like that that have been
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cleaned up uh by this guy uh how does that happen how does that happen it's not my world so i would
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only be speculating but yeah uh this is these are the types of allegations uh that have been going
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on and again diddy sexually compromising uh forcing his entertainers into having sex with him with men
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with women uh and then using his house and cameras everywhere in his house so when he would throw these
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parties if there were celebrities or politicians or prominent entertainers there he'd have everything
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recorded and so those people would be compromised and so yeah they're calling him the jeffrey epstein of
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the music industry and i don't think it's a a bad label uh but again this is diddy comes from a
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compromised background his father was a drug dealer uh who in the 70s who got busted and i think
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snitched on some other drug dealers and then got murdered when diddy was just three years old
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and so what the rap music world really uh where they fish for talent is in all these broken compromised
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dysfunctional homes and so diddy likely uh sexually abused when he was a child uh and obviously father
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murdered didn't grow up in an ideal environment he'll do anything for money and and that's why
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he gets installed and promoted and put in a position of power because he's easily controlled
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because he comes from a background where the values just were instilled and again this whole nihilistic
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view of the world and all the the the breakdown of the nuclear family that they've pushed
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they're destroying the family structure so that our kids are more vulnerable and will be more easily
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seduced into wickedness and a lack of morality so last question and then i gotta take a quick break
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and then come back because i want to talk to you about your event but um why now why has he gotten
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away with this for so long and now it's just coming out that's a great question glenn uh and i would
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my only explanation at this point is that i think we're in that time where so my biggest
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things are crumbling is yeah my biggest explanation is that i don't think we fully recognize all the
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dominoes that trump knocked over yeah just by saying fake news and making us like willing to question
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everything and what trump has done is legitimize the so-called conspiracy theorists so now the public
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i think is more ready for the truth and people are you know filing lawsuits and because there's
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independent media and there's those of us that have had the scales taken off our eyes willing to talk
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about it and expose it but but it's again i don't want to make too much of trump but he's really
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consequential in giving all of us the courage to say man we gotta look at things in an honest fashion