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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn today. It's the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program. It's true. This story, this long story started 20 years ago and Glenn is not here for it. We'll tell you the reasons for that here in just a second. Also, Bill O'Reilly joins us. Bill O'Reilly comes in for the hour to give us his perspective on the election, what happened with Iran and Ricky Gervais, which of course, how did he pronounce it? Gervais?

00:00:26.860 I think so. Yeah. So it's Gerweiss. I think Ricky Gervais, I think equals Ricky Gervais. We'll have to ask Bill about that. Jeffy, unfortunately, joins us host, of course, of Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher to give us the there's a bunch of new polls out about the election and the latest with the royal family, which she for some reason cares about. And we talk about the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program, which we're celebrating by getting rid of all of the glaciers because they're all going to be gone by 2020.

00:00:54.520 We have an update about that, how they got that one wrong and how they're covering their asses on that. It all happens today here on the podcast.

00:01:08.340 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:12.420 It looks more and more like Iran, either accidentally or on purpose, shot down that Ukrainian airliner the other night, killing all 176 on board.

00:01:28.260 So, so bizarre.

00:01:29.860 I mean, didn't you suspect that, though, from the very from the very beginning, because it was just too weird that all those missiles were launched and then coincidentally, a plane just crashes into Iran.

00:01:39.180 Did not seem possible.

00:01:40.560 Didn't.

00:01:41.100 No, it didn't.

00:01:41.580 It did not seem possible.

00:01:43.300 You know, if you're in the middle of a of a six to eight hour buffet binge and then you have a terrible case of heartburn.

00:01:53.140 I guess you could have had the heartburn anyway.

00:01:56.040 Anyway, but it seems really unlikely.

00:01:58.660 Seems like the binge might have brought it on.

00:02:00.600 Yeah, it's usually the way that works.

00:02:02.880 Yeah.

00:02:03.100 And of course, Iran is denying it. 0.51

00:02:05.360 They they called us big liars. 0.52

00:02:09.060 Pants are on fire.

00:02:09.900 I think they also said pants on fire.

00:02:11.960 Yeah.

00:02:12.060 They said na na na na na as well in an official statement from the Aitola.

00:02:15.920 Yeah.

00:02:16.120 Strange.

00:02:16.840 But, you know, one thing that's interesting about us being liars is the video.

00:02:23.820 Yeah.

00:02:24.340 Multiple videos from multiple different areas of missiles striking planes and then bringing them to the ground.

00:02:29.180 I thought that was some pretty good evidence.

00:02:31.720 But Iran saying no.

00:02:33.740 No, it's not.

00:02:34.440 Not quite enough.

00:02:35.360 It's incredible and really sad because these people had nothing to do with what's going on.

00:02:43.420 And, you know, even the U.S. is saying it was it was probably accidental, which nobody would ever give us the benefit of the doubt on that.

00:02:52.220 If it involved us and we shot down some airliner, nobody would say, well, they did it accidentally.

00:02:58.520 But that's actually what what American officials are saying.

00:03:01.800 That's what President Trump is saying about Iran.

00:03:03.980 And that seems to be the intelligence from all over the world, Canada, Europe, everybody seems to agree that this was a missile and likely was a mistake.

00:03:14.860 Now, you never know with these things because it could be a mistake essentially from the regime in that they didn't intend to shoot down a plane.

00:03:23.520 But some person who, you know, they have a ring of anti-aircraft weaponry around the city and one person deciding this was either a threat or screw these people.

00:03:37.940 I'm taking that thing down.

00:03:38.980 That could that that's in a way intentional.

00:03:41.080 Right.

00:03:41.340 They're trying to do it.

00:03:42.480 It doesn't necessarily mean that it was the position of the of the country.

00:03:47.280 Right.

00:03:47.400 Maybe or maybe they confused the airline with somebody else.

00:03:50.660 Yeah.

00:03:50.920 Maybe they thought it was American.

00:03:52.420 Who knows?

00:03:53.580 Who knows?

00:03:55.240 But I'm sure eventually over time we'll we'll get that figured out.

00:03:59.240 That's but it's not surprising because Iran apparently was in possession of the black box from the plane.

00:04:05.280 One of them.

00:04:05.680 And they wouldn't they wouldn't turn it over.

00:04:08.380 So there must be a reason for that.

00:04:10.300 I mean, well, first of all, they wouldn't turn over the black box. 0.60

00:04:14.080 Second of all, I believe it was ABC got footage of the crash area the day after the crash.

00:04:22.160 Nothing there.

00:04:23.840 Now, that's not how you investigate an airport, an aircraft, you know, barreling into the ground and exploding.

00:04:30.580 You the pieces are there every way.

00:04:32.160 You know how meticulous they are with these things.

00:04:34.120 They'll sit there and they'll investigate that for months to look at every single piece.

00:04:37.860 They'll catalog it all.

00:04:39.240 Instead, they're just like, uh, bulldoze that field over there.

00:04:43.440 And hopefully no one notices.

00:04:46.160 I mean, it's it's blatantly obvious that this happened.

00:04:49.320 But, you know, what do you expect?

00:04:51.240 Right.

00:04:51.560 No one expects anything more out of Iran. 0.99

00:04:53.720 I expect a little bit more out of U.S.

00:04:57.200 officials who are running to their social media accounts to try to tweet how Trump was responsible for Iran shooting down a plane because, you know, he he started this chaotic time.

00:05:11.040 And you can't expect a country to not fire against, you know, commercial airlines when when it's a chaotic time.

00:05:21.040 That's obviously Trump's fault.

00:05:22.840 And by the way, we should all remember that Trump was responding.

00:05:26.340 The take taking this guy out.

00:05:28.740 Right.

00:05:29.040 It was not a was not a first move by the United States.

00:05:33.380 Iran was shooting was had just killed a U.S. citizen.

00:05:36.740 They were in the middle of these protests that were arranged by this particular guy, Soleimani.

00:05:44.660 And there are reports of potentially a an imminent threat against U.S. positions designed by this guy who now sadly is not around to tell us about it.

00:05:58.280 So this is not a first strike by the U.S.

00:06:00.900 This is this is a strike that was in, you know, both defensive and in response to an attack by Iran.

00:06:09.820 And we're sick of it.

00:06:10.900 We made this.

00:06:12.100 We've decided to do something here.

00:06:14.900 And sometimes doing something makes people nervous.

00:06:17.380 But we've decided to say, you know what?

00:06:19.980 We're no longer going to play this game where we act like your proxies are not you.

00:06:25.860 We're no longer going to say, you know what?

00:06:28.380 It's it's oh, gosh, those those militia groups.

00:06:32.400 Let's pretend as if we don't know they were directed by Iran. 0.94

00:06:35.140 Let's pretend and let's pretend the IEDs didn't come from Iran. 0.96

00:06:38.680 Yeah.

00:06:39.500 Let's just step back and just forget and pretend because that's really been our position for forever.

00:06:43.860 Yeah.

00:06:44.280 Yeah.

00:06:44.880 All through the Barack Obama years, for sure.

00:06:47.280 And maybe even through some of George W. Bush's years.

00:06:50.560 Yeah.

00:06:50.960 We just ignored it.

00:06:52.080 We just let it go.

00:06:53.380 I mean, we talked about a whole bunch of different things that have happened over the last.

00:06:56.440 Certainly the last 20 years and even the last 40 years that have all come from Iran. 1.00

00:07:02.740 And we've done nothing about it until now.

00:07:05.860 And now we're wrong to respond to any of it.

00:07:09.740 It's it's crazy.

00:07:11.560 It's crazy.

00:07:12.720 It's it's like the Democrats are working for the Iranian regime.

00:07:17.100 It it I mean, they they give they spew their propaganda for them.

00:07:22.580 Yeah.

00:07:23.100 I mean, well, if at least if nothing else, it seems like trying to take Trump down is more important to them.

00:07:29.980 For sure.

00:07:30.460 Then a the truth about this incident and be the danger that is Iran. 0.99

00:07:34.820 I mean, they don't seem to they seem to be much more concerned about a Republican being president than any of those things.

00:07:41.580 Here's one of the Democrats blaming President Trump in part for the shooting down of the of the plane the other night.

00:07:51.280 If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States.

00:08:03.700 Well, is this type of miscalculation, let's say, on the part of the Iranians more likely now to result in even heightened tensions? 0.73

00:08:12.700 I would say that the continued saber, excuse me, the continued saber rattling by the president doesn't help us.

00:08:22.440 I also feel strongly that by taking out General Soleimani, that that did not somehow rid us of any of the planning that the Iranians would be doing or that the Shia militia that is throughout the region is also engaged in doing. 0.94

00:08:41.300 And we also have the leader of the Shia militia who was assassinated as well, that may be the subject of some efforts to seek revenge.

00:08:51.780 So her most important point there was that it's it's Donald Trump's fault.

00:08:56.900 That's incredible.

00:08:58.880 It's that's playing right into the hands of the Iranian regime to me. 0.58

00:09:03.680 And it's triple incredible because it's Jackie Spire.

00:09:07.900 Right.

00:09:08.900 I mean, Jackie Spire is she was in Jonestown.

00:09:13.120 If you don't know, she was the one that went to Jonestown with she was working for a congressman at the time.

00:09:20.140 And this is where all, you know, nine hundred plus people died by drinking the Kool-Aid.

00:09:29.580 I'm going to get this right.

00:09:30.900 The Flavor-Aid.

00:09:32.180 It was not the guy who crashes through your walls in a giant glass.

00:09:36.480 It wasn't Kool-Aid.

00:09:37.580 It was not Kool-Aid.

00:09:37.840 Do you imagine this all of these years?

00:09:39.780 They've been saying drink the Kool-Aid.

00:09:40.860 It was Flavor-Aid.

00:09:42.240 It was a rip off Kool-Aid thing.

00:09:44.240 I didn't even know that.

00:09:44.960 And Kool-Aid gets the blame.

00:09:45.900 It's unfair.

00:09:47.040 And I'm standing up for the guy that goes, oh, yeah, when he comes through the wall because it was not his fault.

00:09:52.280 But Jackie Spire was there.

00:09:54.260 She watched her boss get murdered.

00:09:56.700 Right.

00:09:57.200 And judging by her logic here, he was responsible for the incident because he's the one that started off this chaotic situation where he went over there and visited and tried to rescue all of these people.

00:10:08.920 Instead, a terrible incident happens where murderers wind up murdering a bunch of people.

00:10:14.640 Is that Jackie's fault?

00:10:16.380 Because I've never considered it her fault.

00:10:18.480 I've never considered it her boss's fault.

00:10:20.900 It's the fault of the people who actually do the things.

00:10:24.660 This is such a difficult thing for America to wrap their arms around these days when it comes down to a shooting or it comes down to a situation like this.

00:10:31.980 We have to find somebody else that fits into our worldview to blame instead of, oh, it's guns.

00:10:38.940 It's gun manufacturers.

00:10:40.180 It's this.

00:10:40.760 It's this.

00:10:41.500 No, it's the person who's responsible for the act.

00:10:45.080 Iran is responsible for killing this group of 176 people, period. 0.62

00:10:50.080 You got Pete Buttigieg implying that the U.S. is sharing the blame with Iran for shooting down the airliner.

00:10:56.220 I mean, this is a guy who is running for president who's also trying to pin the blame on us.

00:11:04.680 Wow.

00:11:06.040 Buttigieg said innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of an unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat.

00:11:13.240 My thoughts are with the families and loved ones.

00:11:15.200 I love that.

00:11:16.680 Look, they just were caught in the crossfire.

00:11:20.400 No, they shot down an airliner.

00:11:22.460 That is different than being caught in the crossfire.

00:11:24.600 It indicates that, like, oh, well, a missile flying towards something else happened to hit something in between.

00:11:32.320 We weren't shooting at anybody at the time.

00:11:34.320 There was no crossfire.

00:11:35.380 There was only fire.

00:11:36.500 There was only fire.

00:11:37.260 No one was coming from Iran.

00:11:38.440 Which has, by the way, been the situation this entire time.

00:11:42.780 This entire time, Iran has been taking out U.S. soldiers in Iraq with its IEDs.

00:11:51.320 It's been some rockets.

00:11:52.300 It's been all sorts of different things.

00:11:53.900 But we know this guy, Suleimani, is responsible for 600 of them himself.

00:11:59.320 600 U.S. soldiers.

00:12:03.000 And we have one of the two major parties out there acting as if it was wrong to take him out.

00:12:09.280 I don't think there's any question.

00:12:11.400 Is it morally justifiable what we did with Suleimani?

00:12:14.560 Yes.

00:12:15.180 Is it legally justifiable?

00:12:17.000 Absolutely yes.

00:12:17.780 The only question was, and I think some people had, there's a very small slice of America who actually just had honest questions. 0.79

00:12:25.520 It was like, crap, is this going to blow up into something that we don't want to deal with? 0.93

00:12:29.240 And that's a legitimate question. 0.97

00:12:30.620 And one I'm sure Donald Trump seriously considered before deciding to pull the trigger on this.

00:12:35.120 You know, that is a big part of it.

00:12:37.160 Even when it is morally justifiable and legally justifiable, do you want to deal with the blowback?

00:12:43.080 The decision of Donald Trump for the past two years and Barack Obama for eight years before that and George W. Bush before that was no.

00:12:52.020 Right?

00:12:52.280 Like, we don't want to make that, we don't want to deal with that pushback.

00:12:56.740 So let's all pretend as if these things aren't happening and try to just minimize them.

00:13:01.660 And Trump has changed that calculus, and it's changed the calculus for Iran.

00:13:05.320 That doesn't mean that some of these groups might still do crazy things.

00:13:07.800 But now you have to realize if you're Iran, it's your job to keep these groups in line. 0.96

00:13:13.580 Because if they do things without your knowledge even, we're going to think it's you.

00:13:20.000 And that message being communicated to Iran pretty, with a big exclamation point in the form of an explosion, I think is pretty effective. 0.99

00:13:28.740 Very.

00:13:29.700 And it was obviously proxies that they were using at the embassy that precipitated this attack on Soleimani.

00:13:36.160 So, yeah, we have sent a really strong message that even if this is your proxies, we're coming after you for it.

00:13:42.640 That's a powerful statement.

00:13:44.240 And they, we've said for years that people in the Middle East respond to strength.

00:13:50.800 They don't respond well to weakness.

00:13:52.960 They think that's the green light for them to go ahead and attack you even more.

00:13:57.900 But now they've seen strength.

00:14:00.840 And I think that's going to act as a deterrent.

00:14:04.260 I think it's pretty obvious that, you know, with the lobbing the 15 missiles into U.S. air bases that really hit nothing, that's, that shows you that they're taking this pretty seriously and they understand some of the ramifications for this.

00:14:18.900 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:48.900 You know, lately there is never a shortage of topics to talk about.

00:15:01.940 And Bill O'Reilly joins us now to get us up to speed on what's going on this week.

00:15:07.320 Mr. O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

00:15:09.160 Stu and Pat.

00:15:11.460 Didn't you guys have a hit in the 60s, Hey, Paula?

00:15:14.580 We did.

00:15:15.460 We did.

00:15:16.140 That was us.

00:15:16.840 Yeah.

00:15:17.160 Yeah.

00:15:17.900 One of my favorites.

00:15:19.260 That's pretty good.

00:15:20.760 Yeah, it's been a long time.

00:15:21.640 I'm glad somebody remembers our hit song.

00:15:23.980 Bill, I mean, it's been a crazy week.

00:15:27.440 You know, I don't know where to start.

00:15:29.140 Let's start with Iran. 0.57

00:15:31.840 What, what, what is the media not telling us about this situation?

00:15:35.820 Global warming is responsible.

00:15:37.640 So that's what the media isn't telling you.

00:15:40.580 Soleimani, the terrorist general, so hot over there, he lost his mind.

00:15:46.740 Ordered the attack of the American embassy in Baghdad.

00:15:50.220 Two consecutive days of Shiite militia under the orders of Soleimani terrorizing our embassy.

00:16:00.620 Then they caught him at the airport, U.S. intel, and they smoked him.

00:16:06.320 So that's what happened.

00:16:09.600 And you then bring it over to the United States where there are two things going on.

00:16:15.740 Number one, that most people have no idea what the Quds Force is, where only 28 percent of Americans in a survey taken this week could actually pinpoint where Iran is on a map.

00:16:30.720 When given the map and an outline, they didn't, they didn't fill in the country's names, but they said, here's the map of the Middle East.

00:16:39.000 Where's Iran? 0.75

00:16:40.200 28 percent of Americans could do it.

00:16:42.180 So I'd say the frame of reference of our people here, not the best.

00:16:48.200 And then you combine that with the hate Trump movement, whereas anything President Trump does is bad and evil.

00:16:57.240 But if you're president, so if you're sitting there and the U.S. Embassy, which is American property, it's American soil, is attacked, and then you know the guy did it, is in a certain place, you don't do anything to him?

00:17:15.620 Is that what we're looking at now?

00:17:17.240 Apparently it is.

00:17:19.060 It's Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, even Biden, Biden dancing, as he usually does.

00:17:24.960 But no, you know, you can't do that.

00:17:27.820 You've got to let them just attack the embassy.

00:17:30.740 And I'm saying to myself, what is going on?

00:17:33.860 Excuse me.

00:17:36.180 What is happening to this country?

00:17:40.020 Because that wouldn't have even been debatable even five years ago.

00:17:43.720 Even Barack Obama, as soft as he was, would have retaliated against the general that ordered an attack on an American embassy.

00:17:53.200 So it seems like, Bill, we have a big, I think a big change.

00:17:57.720 I mean, today's Glenn's 20th anniversary of doing this program, which is crazy.

00:18:02.420 And about half of that time back in history, I remember one morning waking up and seeing the news that Osama bin Laden had been killed.

00:18:11.440 And this was not a moment where right-wing media came out and started criticizing Barack Obama.

00:18:18.280 It was a moment that we celebrated as a country together as a wonderful thing.

00:18:23.200 This terrible person who was killing Americans was gone.

00:18:25.940 And that does not seem to be present at all with this.

00:18:29.220 And guess who is the only member of the Obama cabinet that advised against the Pakistani raid by the SEALs?

00:18:37.400 Was it Joe Biden?

00:18:38.620 Joe Biden, yeah.

00:18:39.260 Joe Biden, yeah.

00:18:40.120 He said it was the most difficult decision in 500 years, which I never understood.

00:18:45.240 I didn't know he was that old either.

00:18:46.120 I mean, that's why Trump is salivating about whether it's Biden.

00:18:50.560 It's not going to be the Socialists.

00:18:52.220 It's either going to be Biden or Buttigieg.

00:18:54.480 Buttigieg, I guess, is an outside chance for this nomination.

00:18:58.580 But you are living in a country now that is becoming increasingly distracted by the personal devices.

00:19:06.520 This is another underreported story, especially younger people under 40.

00:19:11.480 They don't pay attention to anything but what's in their hand.

00:19:15.300 And they get dribs and drabs of what's happening.

00:19:18.820 But as I said, they don't know what the history of Iran is, what Iran is trying to do, the violence that they've brought to the Middle Eastern region, which includes killing Americans. 0.85

00:19:30.260 They don't know any of this.

00:19:32.540 And the media does not want to educate anymore or put forth facts.

00:19:37.460 That's not why the media is in business.

00:19:39.800 They're in business to either hate or like Donald Trump.

00:19:42.820 That's where the money is.

00:19:44.500 And there's a lot of money.

00:19:45.640 So, you know, we're living in a rapidly changing time.

00:19:51.280 But Trump this week, I think he did himself some good by being measured.

00:19:55.860 I think going forward, if he can continue that tone, that is a good chance to be reelected.

00:20:02.980 You did write a book about Donald Trump.

00:20:04.340 What do you think the chances are that he continues this tone?

00:20:08.140 That's an excellent question.

00:20:09.520 And based on speculation, in the United States of Trump, you know, he says humbly, is by far and away the best book ever written on Donald Trump.

00:20:18.100 Because it's not a pro or anti-Trump book.

00:20:21.540 I'm just trying to explain the man.

00:20:23.500 And in my explanation of Donald Trump, there is the fact that no one knows what he will do.

00:20:31.140 I don't think he even knows what he's doing from day to day.

00:20:34.560 You know, it's all about how he feels, is he aggrieved, is he, you know, it's a very unpredictable situation in the White House right now.

00:20:47.020 And that's not good.

00:20:48.440 That's not good.

00:20:49.420 It's interesting because one of the knocks on Trump, and if you look at the polling it's supported there as well, they think he's doing a great job with the economy and there's a bunch of stuff they really like.

00:20:58.700 One of the things the American people tend to worry about is how he would handle a major international crisis.

00:21:06.480 And if you see this here, I mean, how do you not rate this an A-plus so far?

00:21:10.900 I mean, this has been...

00:21:11.660 He handled it well.

00:21:12.820 And that drove the, you know, it was interesting to watch the reaction from the hate Trump networks after his speech.

00:21:20.240 They really didn't know where to go.

00:21:22.820 All right?

00:21:23.060 Right.

00:21:23.340 So it was like, wow, he was moderate.

00:21:25.780 He's not going to hit them back.

00:21:27.340 He's not going to escalate.

00:21:29.000 So what do we do now?

00:21:30.840 What do we do now?

00:21:31.600 And then it kind of degenerated into this amorphous, well, he didn't consult with Congress, and he didn't tell Nancy Pelosi what he was going to do.

00:21:42.200 You know, and the Americans immediately, as they have with impeachment, turned away after that.

00:21:49.280 So, you know, we live in a time now where facts and truth really doesn't mean that much.

00:21:54.960 And that disturbs me.

00:21:57.700 Okay, let me...

00:22:00.020 You brought up impeachment, and I'm fascinated by this.

00:22:02.440 Do you understand, Bill O'Reilly, what Nancy Pelosi is attempting to do here?

00:22:07.400 Because she seems to...

00:22:08.940 She waited for two years.

00:22:10.500 She finally decided to go forward with the impeachment on basically no evidence.

00:22:14.820 She rushed it through and said she couldn't call witnesses because she had to get it done so fast.

00:22:20.120 And now is holding on to the articles of impeachment with seemingly no plan whatsoever.

00:22:25.020 I mean, if you are a Democrat, aren't you looking at her and saying, this is a massive failure?

00:22:30.880 I don't think Democrats care, and I don't think Republicans care anymore.

00:22:35.500 I think this story is dead.

00:22:37.580 That's a massive failure for them, right?

00:22:39.260 Why do it if the story's going to die in a week?

00:22:41.020 It's a failure, but they got PR out of it.

00:22:43.160 So it was always a PR stunt.

00:22:46.320 It's like evil Knievel.

00:22:48.420 I mean, that's what it was like.

00:22:49.900 I'm going to jump over the gorge.

00:22:53.900 It's Nancy Pelosi.

00:22:55.520 I'm going to impeach President Trump.

00:22:57.720 All right, so you did it, and not one Republican voted for it.

00:23:02.540 You know there's no chance of a conviction.

00:23:05.700 So we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish.

00:23:08.840 She'll send it over.

00:23:11.620 Feinstein, basically, the senator from California, Democratic senator, said, look, Nancy, send it over.

00:23:16.680 This is boring.

00:23:18.260 We've got to get this on.

00:23:19.180 So she'll send it over on Monday or maybe late this afternoon.

00:23:23.360 And it'll go nowhere.

00:23:24.780 McConnell already has a stranglehold on the process over there in the Senate.

00:23:29.080 But, you know, Pelosi is a creature of the party.

00:23:33.200 And the party says, okay, it's not going to ultimately work for us, but we got the damage on the impeachment, and so now we'll go to something else.

00:23:42.940 But this is like a major loss for Nancy Pelosi, don't you think?

00:23:47.360 It looks like—

00:23:48.120 Not for her people, though.

00:23:49.720 You see, the hate Trump people, the Democrats, the liberals, the far left, they don't look at it that way.

00:23:56.500 They don't process it that way.

00:23:58.080 They never really thought that this was going to remove Donald Trump.

00:24:03.700 I mean, even a nut like Sheila Jackson Lee didn't think that.

00:24:08.420 They just wanted to embarrass him, and they put him off his game and then hope he reacts in a way that's going to hurt him.

00:24:15.920 See, it's all about pushing, pushing, pushing, and hoping Donald Trump then reacts in a way that's going to make it worse.

00:24:22.840 So that's what it was all about.

00:24:24.320 It does seem like the president has some momentum, though, now, doesn't it?

00:24:28.200 Because he's handled this situation with Iran really well, and now it looks like he's going to win on this impeachment situation, too.

00:24:37.180 That she is now even acquiescing and saying, yeah, okay, I'm going to send the articles to the Senate soon.

00:24:43.480 So it seems to me that after the Senate trial, he's going to have quite a bit of momentum heading into springtime.

00:24:50.080 I think his poll numbers will go up a little bit to the mid-40s, maybe upper 40s.

00:24:57.280 But the real momentum Donald Trump has is in the disintegration of his opposition.

00:25:05.920 So it's not – Americans say, yeah, okay, Iran, now what's new?

00:25:10.880 So that's gone now.

00:25:12.220 Maybe it'll come back as the – remember, the mullers don't want him reelected.

00:25:15.900 So they could start trouble at any time to interfere in our process here, and I expect that to happen.

00:25:23.880 But that story's gone now.

00:25:25.840 P. Shewitt will be gone in two weeks.

00:25:27.460 But the lack of a real viable candidate to take on Donald Trump is what gives the president momentum.

00:25:35.880 Because all of these people, I mean, they haven't distinguished themselves.

00:25:39.560 And they're weak. 0.99

00:25:41.600 They're all weak.

00:25:43.440 And if he were facing a Michelle Obama, for example, it would be a much different story.

00:25:50.220 But he knows, and the Republicans know, that they don't have anybody to put up against him right now.

00:25:54.880 So it's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program on the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:00.440 Glenn is out with a family emergency, very last minute, had to fly up to Connecticut.

00:26:05.740 He's asking you for your prayers, and we'd appreciate those, of course.

00:26:09.440 Bill O'Reilly is joining us, and we were talking a little bit about the sort of politics around the election.

00:26:14.260 And it kind of struck me today as I'm looking at the news.

00:26:17.680 Here's unemployment bill at 3.5%, the lowest in, you know, 50 years.

00:26:23.200 Can a president lose a presidential election with economic numbers like this?

00:26:28.340 Yeah, he can lose if he makes mistakes.

00:26:33.560 Because we're living in an age now where not everyone is doing well.

00:26:39.480 I mean, you've got a lot of people in America who don't have the education or the skill set to rise above a certain level.

00:26:49.900 But they want the same amount of things that the affluent have.

00:26:55.320 And that's the gulf, all right?

00:26:57.300 So you don't have, you're not primed to make a lot of money because you're not well-educated

00:27:03.700 and you really didn't learn how to do anything that sets you apart in the marketplace.

00:27:08.920 But you want the buying power of a $200,000 a year salary.

00:27:15.100 And those are the people that are disaffected that are, you know, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are going for those people.

00:27:23.660 So it's all stacked against you.

00:27:26.060 It's not your fault you didn't pay attention in school or take the time to learn how to fix something.

00:27:31.220 No, no.

00:27:31.900 It's the government's fault.

00:27:33.640 So elect us and we'll give you all this stuff.

00:27:37.120 That's what it is.

00:27:38.420 So those people are always going to be there no matter how good the economy is.

00:27:43.520 But, you know, Donald Trump goes in with some pretty firm successes.

00:27:50.500 And if he can capitalize on them, he'll win.

00:27:54.600 You mentioned you thought Bill, excuse me, Joe Biden was the frontrunner and really only Buttigieg with another really small possibility.

00:28:05.180 You don't think any of these socialists are a real threat?

00:28:07.020 No, because the minority community, which is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party now, they're not going to vote for socialists.

00:28:17.020 Hispanic Americans are not. 1.00

00:28:18.840 They know what happened in Cuba.

00:28:21.060 They know what happened in Venezuela.

00:28:23.180 They know what's going on in South and Central America.

00:28:26.120 They're not going to vote for socialists.

00:28:27.420 So you take them right out, right?

00:28:29.600 Now, they may not vote for Trump, but they're just not going to show up.

00:28:33.380 African Americans, a little bit harder to read that.

00:28:36.180 But I don't see any enthusiasm in any African American precincts for socialism.

00:28:43.000 None.

00:28:44.280 I mean, Jay-Z, is he a socialist?

00:28:47.840 Is Beyonce a socialist?

00:28:49.940 And you laugh, but these are the most important people in the African American culture.

00:28:57.460 Jay-Z and Beyonce and Oprah, all right?

00:29:00.840 They're the most important people.

00:29:02.120 Are they socialists?

00:29:04.200 So they have no traction, Warren and Buttigieg and Sanders, in the minority communities.

00:29:12.900 None.

00:29:13.900 How could they win?

00:29:14.840 Yeah, it's interesting, too.

00:29:15.520 You bring up the pop culture.

00:29:16.860 And one of the things that was very—one of Trump's biggest reasons he was a television star back when he was on The Apprentice is because African American audiences loved the guy.

00:29:28.940 I mean, he had great ratings.

00:29:30.400 They want a pathway to achievement.

00:29:34.860 I don't think minority Americans want the federal government with a boot on their neck, even if they're giving them stuff.

00:29:44.000 I just don't think that I—I could be wrong on this, but I haven't seen anything that demonstrates minority voters are jazzed about socialism.

00:29:57.180 So if the socialists in the race can't win, Bill, and I don't see Biden winning this thing either.

00:30:06.640 I mean, I see him winning the Democrat nomination, but I don't believe he can beat Trump.

00:30:11.720 Well, it depends, though.

00:30:12.760 What would it take?

00:30:13.420 I mean, what would the circumstances have to be for Trump to lose to Joe Biden?

00:30:17.760 Well, see, I'm much more cautious because if you look at the Electoral College map, last time around Trump won 30 states, Hillary Clinton won 20.

00:30:30.960 But the Democrats are a lock to win California, Illinois, and New York.

00:30:36.380 I mean, that's over 100 electoral votes.

00:30:39.740 Yeah.

00:30:40.040 I mean, you're starting there.

00:30:42.160 Now, I believe Trump will win Texas and Florida.

00:30:46.520 So, yes, you're elevating there.

00:30:49.460 But it's not a lock.

00:30:51.100 And minority voters, African Americans in particular, will vote for Biden because of the Obama Association.

00:30:58.480 And if Barack Obama and Michelle take to the campaign trail, which they might, they don't have any use for Trump.

00:31:08.480 If they get out there, then it's going to be close, even if Biden is befuddled.

00:31:15.040 Now, in a one-on-one debate, you would think Trump could smoke them because Biden's got all kinds of problems with Ukraine,

00:31:23.340 with his past votes, with his inarticulation, he just can't get a sentence out.

00:31:31.580 Yeah.

00:31:31.800 And I think you'll see that again next week.

00:31:33.580 There's another Democrat debate next week.

00:31:35.560 All right.

00:31:36.240 And if Biden, you know, and he just doesn't look like he has command.

00:31:41.740 No, he doesn't.

00:31:42.220 But if the Obama machine gets behind him, it's going to be close.

00:31:46.940 Bill O'Reilly from BillO'Reilly.com is joining us.

00:31:49.960 He's also the author of the number one bestseller, The United States of Trump, which you can get anywhere you get your books.

00:31:56.060 We're going to come back on the other side with more with Bill O'Reilly.

00:31:59.700 And we'll tell you about the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program.

00:32:05.520 It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck program, joined by Bill O'Reilly.

00:32:10.480 Bill has a new column out talking about the way that the left, as you put it, Bill, the totalitarian left,

00:32:17.680 and it's the way they seem more and more when it comes to college campuses, when it comes to politicians that disagree,

00:32:23.960 media people they don't like, of finding a way to just cancel them out of the culture, get rid of them completely,

00:32:29.560 because their ideas cannot be heard by the American people.

00:32:32.700 They're just not smart enough to be able to handle it.

00:32:34.900 Yeah, one of the themes of BillO'Reilly.com, we do four broadcasts a week of about 35 minutes each,

00:32:44.740 and then I write a column or two and then a daily message of the day.

00:32:50.080 And I've been pounding this theme that the woke culture, and that's the umbrella,

00:32:58.420 is not really in business to improve the country.

00:33:04.300 It's in business to silence the country.

00:33:07.880 So last Sunday, Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal wrote a column that says the woke people are the most hated.

00:33:16.780 Her word is hated, folks in the United States of America. 1.00

00:33:22.320 I'm not sure that's true yet, but they should be, because they're in the death game. 0.97

00:33:28.760 They want to kill people.

00:33:31.040 And it's not a disorganized rabble. 0.92

00:33:35.140 This comes out of very well-funded and organized organizations like Media Matters,

00:33:42.040 the Bonner Group, Color of Change.

00:33:45.260 There are maybe two dozen of them, most of them based on K Street in Washington.

00:33:50.860 And they receive huge grants of money from people like George Soros.

00:33:55.400 Everybody knows that name now.

00:33:57.240 But there are thousands of people like Soros who fund these people.

00:34:02.660 And their dictum, their mandate, is to target people with whom the far left disagrees and destroy them by any means possible.

00:34:15.920 And that's what's happening.

00:34:17.860 And you can see it, how the media loves this.

00:34:22.060 It couldn't happen without the media's cooperation.

00:34:24.700 But they love it because the media in general is liberal.

00:34:30.260 And if they can take out conservative voices and make it difficult for those people to appear on late night TV or morning TV, that kind of thing,

00:34:40.700 they get a step up in the culture war.

00:34:43.500 And that's what's happening. 0.99

00:34:44.740 So you mentioned that they want to kill people.

00:34:47.080 You're talking more metaphorically than literally, right?

00:34:49.780 Look, if they wouldn't, if I died tomorrow or my death died tomorrow, they wouldn't shed a tear.

00:34:54.560 Yeah, that's true.

00:34:55.920 Okay, they'd break out the champagne.

00:34:58.420 These are vicious people.

00:35:00.640 These are people who believe that their conduct is justified because the traditional conservative movement is so evil. 0.81

00:35:11.300 I mean, they believe we're evil.

00:35:13.640 And I believe they're evil.

00:35:15.480 So never the twain will meet.

00:35:17.100 But the advantage they have, in addition to the money, the vast money they have to do what they do, is the media's acceptance of them and promotion of them.

00:35:30.120 I mean, that's why the Golden Globe Awards were so stunning, where you have this Jervais basically saying, look, I'm a Brit, and I'm never going to do this show again, Golden Globes.

00:35:43.240 So I'm going to tell the truth about these people, these Hollywood people, who have a vast amount of influence.

00:35:50.360 And he did.

00:35:51.860 Yeah.

00:35:52.520 The next day, the L.A. Times cut his throat, Jervais' throat, and did everything they could to marginalize the truth that he said, that these Hollywood people don't know anything. 0.98

00:36:06.620 They're ignorant, they're ignorant, they're intolerant, and if you don't toe their line, you won't work in Hollywood. 0.99

00:36:14.240 And that's true. 1.00

00:36:15.860 And the same thing goes for Disney and AT&T and Comcast and all of these corporations that control the media flow in this country.

00:36:25.060 It's a bad situation, and Americans should know just how bad it is.

00:36:30.480 Now, I've watched you, Bill, for 25 or 30 years, and I've known you for a decade.

00:36:35.160 I don't know that I've ever heard you use the word evil before.

00:36:38.180 Is that a new thing?

00:36:39.560 Is that a new realization for you or a new belief structure about these people?

00:36:44.200 No, I've used evil before in the sense that if you are a human being who wants to hurt other human beings, all right, hurt them, you're evil.

00:36:58.620 Now, if it's self-defense, everybody understands that.

00:37:01.760 But if you are somebody who really devotes your life to hurting others, if you are a criminal, if you are an abuser of children, that's evil.

00:37:16.020 Right, yeah.

00:37:16.660 And I'm seeing now a movement in this country that's being accepted that is at the same level of the totalitarian regimes of the past in the Soviet Union, in China, in Germany, where there were political parties that were bent on subjugating people and were going to do anything they could to accomplish that.

00:37:39.800 Well, what's the difference?

00:37:42.140 What's the difference?

00:37:43.000 So it is evil, in my opinion.

00:37:47.740 It's amazing, though, you know, given this context, Bill, you know, here's a huge group of people, very well organized, relentless, just trying to shut people up.

00:37:57.660 And if you read the Peggy Noonan column, you know, in a way, she almost seems optimistic about it, that eventually the American people are going to wake up and toss this aside and reject it.

00:38:10.340 Do you find that optimism?

00:38:11.620 In her column, and by the way, I'm not a big fan of hers, because she was, you know, one of the witch hunters and the misconduct stuff. 0.93

00:38:20.480 Everybody was guilty.

00:38:22.880 But anyway, she thinks that someone is going to rise up and challenge these people.

00:38:29.800 Well, who might that be?

00:38:33.320 You're going to get killed if you do that by the New York Times and the Washington Post and Hollywood and The View and MSNBC and CNN.

00:38:43.960 Who's going to do that?

00:38:46.220 I mean, you would have to have billions of dollars and you would have to have hundreds of armed guards even to take them on.

00:38:54.320 I mean, that's how bad it is.

00:38:57.180 Now, yes, you have a conservative media.

00:38:59.640 You have people on radio and television that stick up for traditional values.

00:39:04.500 But it's 100 to 1 against.

00:39:09.060 I mean, you're overwhelmed by the other side.

00:39:12.860 And that's the state we're in.

00:39:15.220 So I'm not optimistic that some white knight is going to come out. 0.55

00:39:19.200 I don't know how that could possibly happen.

00:39:20.900 Bill, we know people should go find you at BillOReilly.com, as you oh so wonderfully outlined just a moment ago.

00:39:30.180 What else should people be aware of?

00:39:32.100 The book?

00:39:32.480 Is that the thing you're pushing right now?

00:39:33.880 No, no.

00:39:34.400 The book is we did very well with the United States of Trump, and I appreciate you guys helping us with it.

00:39:40.740 We have a new Killing book out May 12th, Killing Crazy Horse, The American Indian Wars, which is unbelievable.

00:39:49.400 I think people will enjoy that.

00:39:53.260 That is the ninth Killing book, 17 million copies of my history books in print.

00:40:00.520 And if you become a BillOReilly.com premium member, you get the book free and first.

00:40:05.820 So that's pretty much what I'm hawking right now.

00:40:08.280 Very nice.

00:40:09.260 Bill, did you have a 20th anniversary message for Glenn that you wanted to make sure he heard?

00:40:14.040 Well, first of all, I hope, you know, look, I've been friends with Beck for a long time.

00:40:17.520 Yeah.

00:40:17.680 And anything that is troubling him troubles me.

00:40:23.860 So I'm, you know, just hoping that everything turns out.

00:40:28.240 If I can do anything, you guys tell him that I'm here to do whatever he needs.

00:40:32.460 But, you know, Glenn Beck is an interesting, and I don't want to spend a lot of time, because I know you have to sell pillows and stuff.

00:40:37.320 But if you step back and you watch what Beck does, he's different than me and others who are more traditional in this country and the media.

00:40:51.160 Because Beck is basically what I call a true believer.

00:40:54.500 I mean, he has a vision of what America should be and how people should participate in the country.

00:41:02.040 And it's different than everybody else.

00:41:04.960 And that's why I like, you know, I give Beck a hard time.

00:41:08.020 There's nobody that makes more fun of him than I do.

00:41:10.180 But when it comes right down to it, Beck is an important resource for this country.

00:41:15.200 And I'm so happy that he's been successful in the 20th anniversary.

00:41:21.760 You know, he started when he was 62 years old.

00:41:24.380 He's 82 now.

00:41:26.100 And, you know, I just hope he can last as long as he wants to last.

00:41:30.820 All right.

00:41:31.060 Bill O'Reilly, BillOreilly.com.

00:41:32.320 We're going to sell some pillows.

00:41:33.380 But thanks for joining us today.

00:41:34.560 All right, guys.

00:41:35.320 Cheers.

00:41:35.780 All right.

00:41:36.020 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:49.860 If you like what you're hearing on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed.

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00:41:58.140 This is what Glenn posted earlier this morning.

00:42:01.000 Is it on Instagram?

00:42:02.080 I think it's, I believe it's on the gram.

00:42:03.980 You know, that's what I call it.

00:42:05.120 The gram.

00:42:05.520 Yeah, because I want people to know.

00:42:06.860 Because you're really in the know, and you're really hip on the gram.

00:42:09.080 Yeah.

00:42:09.480 Sometimes I'll just call it Insta.

00:42:11.680 Really?

00:42:11.940 And other times I'll call it V-I-G. 1.00

00:42:14.520 You know, because I, you know, that's why I'm on the TikTok as well.

00:42:19.200 Make sure you check me out there on the TikTok.

00:42:21.520 Are you on TikTok?

00:42:21.880 On the TikTok.

00:42:23.000 No, I'm not.

00:42:24.360 So, sorry, I'm an adult.

00:42:27.460 So, Glenn was on Instagram, and he talked about, I mean, because it's 20 years and two days

00:42:33.020 ago he got married to Tanya.

00:42:34.400 Yeah.

00:42:35.520 And we were there, Pat, and got to go to a wonderful hamburger dinner right afterwards

00:42:42.380 at a fast food joint.

00:42:43.560 And then two days after that he moved to Florida and started his talk radio show.

00:42:48.840 Here's what he writes.

00:42:49.600 He says, today's my 20th anniversary of doing talk radio.

00:42:52.580 20 years.

00:42:53.620 In many ways it seems like yesterday.

00:42:55.240 In others it seems like I've been doing it for a thousand years.

00:42:57.580 A lot of that has to do with working with Jeffy.

00:43:00.100 That part of it always seems a lot longer.

00:43:02.140 It ages you.

00:43:02.560 Yeah, it does.

00:43:03.260 Yeah.

00:43:03.740 I've been blessed to work with some of the best people in all of radio.

00:43:06.360 Stu, Pat, Dan, Jeffy, Sarah, just to name a few, who have been with me the whole time.

00:43:10.420 Pat for 30 years next year.

00:43:13.080 That's actually this year.

00:43:14.340 It's this year?

00:43:14.920 It's already 30 years, yeah.

00:43:16.100 30 years.

00:43:17.760 A little hurt.

00:43:18.320 I'm a little hurt that he didn't realize that.

00:43:20.220 Our anniversary is coming up as well.

00:43:21.820 Oh, gosh, Pat, don't cry.

00:43:26.460 30-year anniversary.

00:43:28.560 So you started with him in Baltimore.

00:43:30.720 Mm-hmm.

00:43:31.220 In 1990.

00:43:32.700 1990.

00:43:33.500 That's a long freaking time ago.

00:43:36.360 It's amazing how this stuff happens.

00:43:38.020 It seems like it goes so fast.

00:43:39.540 Yeah.

00:43:40.060 Glenn writes, I cannot thank all of those who have crossed my path and made me a better broadcaster

00:43:44.800 and man, as well as those we currently work with and make me sound better than I am.

00:43:49.940 But truly, one of the top five greatest blessings of my life has been able to serve you, the audience.

00:43:54.880 The greatest 50 million monthly Americans to ever come together as an audience.

00:43:59.320 Tanya and I think of you as friends because, well, you are.

00:44:02.600 I don't get to see you when we hang out.

00:44:05.160 But you are the most well-read, loyal, entrepreneurial, honest, and charitable audience I contend has ever been assembled in TV or radio.

00:44:13.380 I mean, a lot of that stuff is really hard to argue with.

00:44:15.480 I mean, the charitable thing in particular.

00:44:17.200 Yeah, it's great.

00:44:17.740 I mean, the way that this audience has stepped up for people in need over the years,

00:44:21.840 and that's something that the audience never gets their due credit for.

00:44:26.700 The media never fawns over all the millions of dollars this audience has given to help people.

00:44:32.600 This audience has literally given tens of millions of dollars.

00:44:36.620 Incredible.

00:44:36.980 For various causes.

00:44:38.680 Tens of millions.

00:44:39.400 Saving Christians in the Middle East. 1.00

00:44:41.320 Mm-hmm.

00:44:41.480 Stopping people from being trafficked. 1.00

00:44:43.620 Sex slaves. 1.00

00:44:44.520 Yeah, and sex slavery. 0.99

00:44:46.060 Back to, you know, tons and tons of veterans' causes.

00:44:50.320 You know, soldiers that have gone and been injured or killed.

00:44:52.600 Food kitchens.

00:44:53.060 Their families.

00:44:53.880 Food kitchens.

00:44:54.560 For homeless people.

00:44:55.400 I mean.

00:44:55.860 Across the board.

00:44:56.760 Yeah.

00:44:57.120 Children in need.

00:44:58.060 I mean, it's been really an amazing experience to see that actually happen.

00:45:00.900 Because we talk about how important, you know, charity is because we argue all the time that we want government to do less.

00:45:09.640 You know, when Mercury won, his charitable organization started, that's what they used to use, that tagline all the time.

00:45:14.700 It was, you know, if we want the government to do less, we need to do more.

00:45:18.200 And this audience has taken that to heart in a real way.

00:45:23.060 Glenn writes, Tanya and I think of you as friends.

00:45:25.580 Oh, yeah, we got to do that part.

00:45:26.640 Let's see.

00:45:27.640 You challenge me, he writes.

00:45:29.080 Let me know when I am wrong, yet do something that just isn't in fashion anymore.

00:45:33.720 Remain my friend even when we disagree.

00:45:35.980 Thank you for allowing me to share your journey with you.

00:45:38.700 It has been a great joy to make you laugh, cry, see something a new way, explore life and history, think out of the box, and stand shoulder to shoulder for the God-given rights given to all mankind by a loving creator.

00:45:49.240 I know I am not good enough to have accomplished all that we have on my own.

00:45:52.720 And I will agree with him.

00:45:53.500 Oh, I mean, that's probably the truest thing he even said.

00:45:57.140 I mean, it's not even, I mean, it makes it.

00:45:59.080 It sounds like it could be close, like he's almost good enough, but he's not.

00:46:01.400 I mean, it's a huge, massive chasm.

00:46:05.620 Or a chasm.

00:46:07.680 Chasm.

00:46:08.220 Chasm.

00:46:09.680 Much of it was a blessing from God.

00:46:11.300 The mistakes, however, were all mine.

00:46:12.800 With that being said, please forgive me for not being with you today, as Glenn is not here, obviously, today.

00:46:17.800 But he wrote this at 3.15 a.m. Eastern time, and he had just landed in Connecticut.

00:46:22.580 Late last night, Tanya got word that her father had been rushed to the hospital and we needed to be by his side.

00:46:26.800 I hope to be back Monday, but will be gone Tuesday, as my daughter Mary is going in for brain surgery, Tuesday at 7 a.m.

00:46:34.400 Please pray for my family.

00:46:36.120 And if I may ask for one more prayer, one of my best and dearest friends is facing a fierce battle for his life today.

00:46:41.320 His name is Dom.

00:46:42.100 Please pray for miracles and grace.

00:46:44.320 See you soon.

00:46:45.100 So, Dom and Mary and Vinny and really, honestly, a lot of people, man, going on right now.

00:46:50.560 It's been a tough few months for this sort of stuff.

00:46:53.860 Wow.

00:46:54.260 And it's something that, you know, everybody has to deal with at some point, but man, it's, I feel like it's been just a wave of real, you know, close by tragedy and sadness in a lot of ways.

00:47:09.660 Yeah.

00:47:10.240 And just, you know, obviously everyone has to go through that at some point, but I know Glenn has had a real difficult time and has a lot going on in that area.

00:47:16.400 And I know he really wanted to be here today.

00:47:18.360 I mean, you know, he's 20 years doing a show that started at 970 WFLA 20 years ago, started off the first year of broadcast.

00:47:27.940 I think he started in 18th place in the ratings and then rocketed to 23rd place, which was great.

00:47:35.640 But it was rocket.

00:47:36.320 It was rocket.

00:47:36.840 It was a rocket ride.

00:47:37.840 Yeah.

00:47:38.580 And it's interesting because, Pat, you know, in his morning show career, you know, he had some big stops, but some, you know, middling.

00:47:45.400 I mean, I wouldn't, middling is a good word, I think, for what he did until he met up with you.

00:47:50.140 Right.

00:47:50.660 And then had massive success.

00:47:53.720 All the way up to number one.

00:47:54.760 It was outrageous.

00:47:55.780 Uh-huh.

00:47:56.460 And, you know, started in talk radio in 18th place, went to 23rd, then I joined him and he went to number one.

00:48:01.940 So I don't know what the lesson is exactly there, but I can tell you exactly what it is.

00:48:08.100 No.

00:48:08.900 So we started off, think about this.

00:48:11.260 In 2000, Glenn starts off his first show in talk radio.

00:48:15.400 It's, it's, it's, he's struggling at the beginning.

00:48:18.020 He's finding his, his way.

00:48:19.300 I mean, Glenn's an incredible broadcaster, will someday be in the radio hall of fame, I'm sure.

00:48:24.040 And is, you know, incredibly gifted at what he does, even though maybe some days on this program, you can't necessarily tell that.

00:48:30.560 But, and, but he starts off and he's getting his kind of feet, getting his balance.

00:48:35.460 Is this going to work as a talk radio host?

00:48:37.020 Uh, in Tampa, Florida, in 2000, when an election's going on, you may remember, centered a little bit around Florida.

00:48:46.780 Yeah.

00:48:47.260 With hanging chads and such.

00:48:48.700 So you're there for that election in Florida, uh, about, uh, what was it?

00:48:53.880 Maybe 10 months later, um, or eight months later, I guess it was.

00:48:58.220 We went to, we were got an offer to be nationally syndicated, start a new show.

00:49:01.960 It was August, 2001.

00:49:03.660 You may notice one month before September.

00:49:06.840 And it was going to start the next January, right?

00:49:08.960 It was going to start at the beginning of the year.

00:49:10.300 And then nine 11 happened.

00:49:11.400 Yeah.

00:49:11.540 And they moved up the launch.

00:49:12.520 So we kind of like threw a network together, threw a show together.

00:49:15.460 They didn't, for some reason, they didn't want to talk about relationship issues with whoever else was doing the show at that time.

00:49:21.540 Yeah.

00:49:22.100 During nine 11.

00:49:23.160 A little bit of a changeup.

00:49:24.060 Yeah.

00:49:24.340 Yeah.

00:49:24.640 So we did that.

00:49:25.820 I mean, we think of all the stuff that's happened, Pat.

00:49:27.580 I mean, you go through the Iraq war, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the Kerry versus Bush election, which came down to Ohio.

00:49:35.500 And we were out there with a giant waffle head, uh, going around telling, uh, you know, that's right.

00:49:40.880 Mocking John, John Kerry, uh, then you had, uh, you know, the economic collapse, Katrina, uh, you had, uh, the Obama election and all of that crazy stuff.

00:49:50.660 And, you know, in that period, you know, Glenn started his CNN headline news show.

00:49:54.280 And then onto the Fox news show with all that stuff with Van Jones and then the, the, uh, restoring, uh, honor in Washington, DC, hundreds of thousands of people gathering for that.

00:50:03.920 All the restoring, um, uh, events since it has been a hell of a ride, a hell of a 20 years, man.

00:50:10.380 Really has.

00:50:11.180 And this audience has been there the entire time.

00:50:12.940 Many people I still hear from all the time who were listening those first days in Tampa. 0.99

00:50:19.500 The shit, the fact that they stuck around through those days is a really something. 0.99

00:50:23.820 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:23.960 It's a feat of strength in and of itself, but to hang around for 20 years, still listening to Glenn.

00:50:27.940 I know he really legitimately appreciates it.

00:50:30.980 And, you know, we talk about this off the air all the time that this audience is, is something special.

00:50:36.300 The fact that they've been able to do the things that they've been able to do, you know, the, you know, the, the, the ways that we've been influenced by the audience over the years.

00:50:44.340 You know, I'll never forget going, you know, we're doing the show in Tampa back in, this is the Terry Schiavo days.

00:50:48.860 And I was out at a, an all you can eat buffet because I guess there was a buffet, there was a buffet in Tampa that threw out a big fat guy because he was eating too many crab legs.

00:51:01.120 And it was kind of a big local story.

00:51:02.660 So we decided to get 10 of our fattest listeners to go to this buffet and just gorge themselves to see if we could get kicked out.

00:51:12.840 So that's what I was doing.

00:51:14.520 And Glenn was back taking calls on the local issue of the day, Terry Schiavo.

00:51:19.140 And he was on the other side of it.

00:51:21.060 He was on the side of like, ah, you know what?

00:51:22.960 I mean, look, it's, I wouldn't want to live that way. 0.98

00:51:24.840 Let her die. 0.99

00:51:26.040 You know, the husband seems to want it, whatever. 0.93

00:51:28.600 And he got a call from a listener, one of the last calls on the show, who said, you know, Glenn, I've been listening to you for a year and this doesn't seem consistent with you at all.

00:51:35.880 Like, have you actually thought about this story at all?

00:51:38.900 And it's funny because, you know, doing talk radio, especially when you hear it being done by others, you can tell when the people have actually thought out the issue they're talking about.

00:51:49.580 And it's not 100% of the time.

00:51:52.100 Newsflash.

00:51:52.760 A lot of times it's just, you know, there's a little bit of rip and read going on occasionally in talk radio.

00:51:57.160 You know, and I don't know, he was being, trying to be entertaining.

00:51:59.920 He was much more focused on this big buffet issue going on in town.

00:52:03.720 And, you know, he stopped and he, it really bothered him.

00:52:07.920 I remember him telling me about this as we went into the weekend.

00:52:11.120 You know, it really bothered me.

00:52:12.560 Like, I, I don't know why it seemed to, he seemed to connect.

00:52:15.720 So he did something that I don't know that a lot of hosts do.

00:52:17.960 He went home and actually took the caller's advice and thought about it.

00:52:21.720 And he came back the next day on Monday and said, you know, I'm totally wrong on this.

00:52:25.600 I blew this one.

00:52:27.160 And instead of just letting the story die or trying to massage it.

00:52:33.540 And as I was saying on Friday, I'm on this side of it.

00:52:37.020 He came out and just laid it out on the table.

00:52:39.460 This is what happened.

00:52:40.320 I was wrong.

00:52:41.120 I didn't think about it enough.

00:52:42.440 I let you down.

00:52:43.480 Here's what the real, the truth is.

00:52:45.820 And, you know, he wound up becoming very close to the Shiavo family and who really appreciated his efforts.

00:52:50.980 I mean, that was a, that was a big story in Tampa long before it was a national story.

00:52:55.200 And, you know, I think that's one of the things that sets Glenn apart, honestly, as a host in that, like, he's willing to just come out here and just say, you know what?

00:53:00.540 I totally blew that one.

00:53:01.820 That is very rare in talk radio.

00:53:03.980 You don't hear it a lot.

00:53:05.260 You don't hear it.

00:53:05.720 I mean, you certainly don't hear it from the media today.

00:53:07.400 I mean, you know, wouldn't it be nice to have CNN, maybe Allison Camerota, who's probably the worst offender on this particular topic, to come out one day and say, you know what? 0.98

00:53:17.180 I said to you 20 times on the air that the dossier was confirmed and corroborated by authorities.

00:53:24.480 And you know what?

00:53:25.060 I got to just tell you, I really believed it at the time.

00:53:28.280 But you know what?

00:53:29.100 I was totally wrong on that.

00:53:30.920 And you should know that I was wrong.

00:53:32.480 And you should know next time I come out with something like that, it's okay to have questions because I blew that one.

00:53:37.020 Yeah, wouldn't that be nice?

00:53:37.940 Wouldn't that be nice?

00:53:38.720 But she'll never do that.

00:53:39.860 You never hear that.

00:53:40.780 Never do that.

00:53:41.140 You do hear it from Glenn, though.

00:53:42.560 Yeah.

00:53:42.860 And when he does get something wrong, he does really try to, and that's something that is difficult to do for your ego.

00:53:49.340 And it's something that a lot of broadcasters.

00:53:51.640 It's counterintuitive, too.

00:53:52.740 But tell you not to do it.

00:53:53.540 Any consultant would say, don't do that.

00:53:55.360 Right.

00:53:55.640 Because you're supposed to be the ultimate authority.

00:53:57.160 You've got to be the authority.

00:53:57.640 Yeah.

00:53:57.920 You know, don't admit your lack of perfection to the audience.

00:54:04.160 Right.

00:54:04.380 But, you know, I think that's one of the things that we've loved about this show is that the audience is, you know, they're smart.

00:54:09.740 They know you're not perfect.

00:54:11.220 They're human beings.

00:54:12.780 And they also are not perfect.

00:54:14.840 And we've been able to kind of go through 20 years of this together.

00:54:19.200 And hopefully, I mean, for Pat and I's sake, not too much longer because it really, I can't take anymore.

00:54:25.440 But, no, it's been an amazing ride.

00:54:28.000 And I know Glenn really appreciates it and wants to be here.

00:54:30.220 So we're going to go over some – he wants to, I know, talk to you about it as well.

00:54:33.780 But on this day where 20 years ago, 970 WFLA launches this show, we appreciate not only their affiliation with us, but all the stations and all the advertisers and especially the audience.

00:54:44.700 It's been an amazing ride and hopefully a lot more.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 10, 2020

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