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On today's show, we go over last night's Democratic Debates, discuss Jill Biden's performance, and discuss why Kirsten Gillibrand is the worst in the Democratic primary field. Plus, we have an interesting moment from our segment with Jeffrey Epstein.
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all right welcome to the podcast today we go over last night's debate and we talk about biden his
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performance we talk about uh cory booker kamala harris tulsi gabbard who made noise who was good
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who was not well we can say basically of course all of them were bad when it comes to policy but
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who is actually performing well enough to be the other side of the presidential election in 2020
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it's a big it's a big story you want to know who's going to be coming up against you and we
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will get to that uh here on today's program also have an interesting moment from our segment with
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jeffy which is the first time i think i've ever said that would you say that's true have you ever
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had a interesting thing from no no no i think this was the first the first one he's found a video of
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an interaction between a uh driver and a cop an older woman and a cop and how do you break this
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down whose side are you on on this one i i i was kind of thinking i was going to go into this and
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and be in the middle i ended up on one side pretty hard uh jeffy did as well and i think
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you did as well at the end it was it's interesting to kind of go through the video and see did the
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cop act appropriately or not i you know it's it's on the you know it's on the border for some people
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not for me uh and we will talk about uh the election with jim garrity of national review
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who comes on to kind of give us a perspective of the election and the debates and where we stand
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right now uh and so much more here on the glenn beck program podcast
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at any time and point um so last night's democrat debate pretty agonizing as was the night before
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you say um you said on the pre-show stew that you you disliked this group even more than the first
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night's group yeah i really did uh watching it you know i had to watch both of the entire debates
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because it's part of our stupid job yeah and it's hard though yeah it is really every minute i want
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no stop every single minute it's like you know it's like if you uh now i know this would not
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necessarily um relate to you but i think it may relate to a couple people in the audience which is
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when you had a lot to drink and you go you're back up near the bar and someone's like hey how about
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shots for everyone and you have that moment of like your body is screaming at you don't do it
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please don't do it not another one but you're like i kind of have to i'm here all the people
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are around me there's that weird feeling like you just kind of you don't want to be the one who's
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who's uh you know who's bailing on the party and then you do it and you vomit uh you know profusely
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all night what you're about to hear is a program where we're vomiting profusely all night that is
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the entire thing because last ever you're right every other person that begins speaking i think
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to myself don't do it don't stay here don't take another shot and then i do and it's it's painful
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i you know night one i thought was was at least interesting in the idea that you had people who
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were saying uh i have a moderate view or a more moderate view than the crazy socialists and then
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they were debating things i thought at least of substance where last night it was just everyone
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picking on joe biden i mean with i mean kirsten gillibrand was shameless you know she has developed
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an immunity to shame and i don't know how you do that that's tough to do but she has developed she's
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super unlikable too super unlikable and she went to this ridiculous attack about some op-ed joe biden
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wrote in 1879 yeah about yeah about trying to protect families and you can just do we have that
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because you can hear her we do have that uh you can hear her trying like you look i just wanna i just
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wanna know what he meant by that it really is that you didn't you just magically were offended by a 40
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year old op-ed today that that's what happened and you're just curious you could have asked him
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probably a thousand times when you've been talking to him in private over the past years if this was
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really offending you uh but instead you're bringing it up on the debate stage it's just
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transparent let's uh let's play that uh gillibrand and biden talking about women who work cut 18 i just
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need to understand as a woman who's worked my entire career as the primary wage earner as the primary
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caregiver in fact the second my second son henry is here and i had him wow when i was a member of
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congress so under vice president biden's analysis am i serving in congress resulting in the
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deterioration of the family because i had access to quality affordable daycare i just want to know
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what he meant when he said that that was a long time ago and here's what it was about it would have
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given people making today a hundred thousand dollars a year a tax break for child care i did
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not want that i wanted the child care to go to people making less than a hundred thousand dollars
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so he's answered and that's what it was about as a single father who in fact raised three children
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for five years by myself i have some idea what it cost i support making sure that every single
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solitary person needing child care get an eight thousand dollar tax credit that would put seven
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hundred thousand women back to work increase the gdp by almost eight tenths of one percent it's the
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right thing to do if we can give tax breaks to corporations for these things why can't we do it
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this way mr vice president you didn't answer my question what did you mean what would you mean
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when a woman works outside the home it's resulting in quote the deterioration of family and that we
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are avoiding these are quotes it was the title of the op-ed she repeats this to get the viral moment
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because she needs to have it encapsulated women are working four to ten moms have to work they're
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the primary or sole wage earners they actually have to put food on the table eight out of ten moms are
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working today most women all right we get the points you know look and you know what the deal is
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it may have been it may have even been at the time because 40 years ago people believed that one of the
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parents should be home to raise the kids people just believe that i know it's ancient ancient
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thinking and so so so wrong-headed right that children should be raised by parents they should be
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raised by tv we know that now or video games or a daycare center um if you're kirsten gillibrand
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that's what you think that's just as good as either one of the parents being are you saying the
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someone who's raising the kid by an ipad is a bad parent no i'm saying that's the way to go now okay
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because you said video games and you said television i was you did not mention tablets i was concerned i'm
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sorry that was an egregious oversight what did you mean by that i would like to know as a parent who
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was raising their kid by kid via ipad i would like to know what you meant by that can we all admit
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that it is the optimal situation if you can for one of the parents to be home and raise your kids
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it's a great option to have it's not always available to everyone but we all know yeah the
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ideal situation is if one of the parents can be home then be home and raise the kids right but like
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what's really bad and again gillibrand is terrible she's trying to do what kamala harris did last time
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right she's trying to have this big viral moment yep and here's the thing you're talking fakey outrage
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like your i your concept is well it's really hard to raise a kid as a single parent you're talking to
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a guy who tragically lost his wife in a car crash yeah right like this is the one guy who really does
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have experience uh in this world as he said he was a single dad for a while yes i mean you know it is
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it's one of those things where she's just not good at this she's pathetic and she just needs to just
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drop out and go away i don't think she has any chance of making the next debate she did not perform
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well at all last night uh and at some level the average person would say i'm embarrassing myself in
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front of the nation and i need to stop doing it well that would require having some shame some shame
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and she's immune to it yeah they they don't all right 888-727-BECK it's pat and stew for glenn on
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the glenn beck program more in 60 seconds this is the glenn beck program pat and stew for glenn
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888-727-BECK we should we remembered that there was a little something extra uh at the end of this
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clip so we need to finish the uh gillibrand biden exchange here because joe kind of i mean he does a
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good job he does a good job here yeah watch this most women have to work to provide for their kids
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many women want to be working to provide for their communities to help people let the vice president
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either you don't believe it today or what did you mean when you said it the very beginning my
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deceased wife worked but we had children my present wife has worked all the way through
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raising our children the fact of the matter is the situation is one that i don't know what's
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happened i wrote the violence against women act lily led better i was deeply involved in making
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sure the equal pay amendments i was deeply involved in all these things i came up with the it's on us
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proposal to see to it that women were treated more decently on college campuses you came to
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syracuse university with me and said it was wonderful i'm passionate about the concern making
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sure women are treated equally i don't know what's happened except that you're now running for
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president so i understand mr vice president it's kind of a burn there i respect you deeply i respect
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you deeply yeah we don't need a response she just goes she does it again by the way she does it again
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yeah but but those words and i would like to know what you meant by those words that i'm trying to get
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a viral video at to raise more money why aren't you responding directly because i need these to be
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together so there's not an edit and then i can send it out to donors that is like is legitimately what
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she's doing and she just gets destroyed in that exchange and you know it is so true she is
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transparently awful when it comes to consistency she really did run as a congressperson as a you know
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like a john delaney right she's like a conservative democrat yeah on immigration and i think even
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abortion and several other issues she was much more conservative than she is now and she's as soon as
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she ran for statewide office she completely changed into a hardcore leftist and as biden points out and
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it's interesting because he's got this sort of information on every one of these people every one
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of these candidates he has had backroom conversations with because they were all begging him for attention
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and position and to heighten their profile because biden obviously was in the white house for eight years
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under a president by the way that has something like a 95 approval rating among among democrats so
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this is not a it's not a situation where the you know biden is unfamiliar with these characters
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they're all just a they're just shameless i couldn't believe the things they were saying about
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this guy and again i i don't like joe biden and not just him yeah not just him obama yeah they're
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going after obama and his record it's like okay so have you guys are has obama been taken off the
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throne of god himself because at one point that's almost who they believed he was yeah yeah i would
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love to see i'd love to hear from today a democratic a normal democratic voter or if you happen to be
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married to a normal democratic voter have one in your household that was watching the debate with you
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because i wonder if the average democratic voter felt the same way that i did and i don't like joe
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biden i think he would be a horrific president right and i know i think i don't think he's a
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i don't think he would be not only a good president but he's not honest there's a lot of problems i have
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with the guy but it was so over the top the attacks were so ridiculous against him that i almost felt bad
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for him i was like this is just like they're just piling on him with these fake attacks and these are
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people that he's had relationships with that he's helped over this time and it felt so over the top
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and ridiculous i wonder if this the average democratic voter was like the same thing this is
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ridiculous i mean they're not even trying to hide that this is blatantly political i mean they were
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not these were not valid attacks and then they're you know i don't even know what cory booker was doing
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i know his eyes were wide open he was seeing everyone in the crowd that i know because that is
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something he signals every time he speaks and i think you get the impression by watching
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booker that everything he says he's practiced in front of a mirror for 20 minutes beforehand
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and he's very his eyes light up because he's seeing himself and he really likes seeing himself he likes
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his reflection he loves his face he loves that he's on camera all the time and he just comes off as so
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prepared and fake and every one of these debates afterwards the same things happen and i don't know if i'm just
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completely out of touch but the he's constantly praised for his performance and i sit back i'm just
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like what what were they watching what what program were they watching cory booker is so um is so false
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he's trying too hard all the time and at the end of the day i don't know how that connects to people
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but i guess it does for some at least in the media the media is constant praise for cory booker
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constant they think he's the greatest guy in the world every single one of these things they say he
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does a great job on i thought he was terrible last night terrible so we're talking about cory booker
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and his awful performance what was this kool-aid thing all about here's a little exchange between
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joe biden and and cory booker for the entire eight years he was mayor there was nothing done to deal
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with the police department that was corrupt why did you announce in the first day a zero
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tolerance policy of stop and frisk and hire rudy giuliani's guy in 2007 when i was trying to get
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rid of the crack cocaine mr vice president there's a saying in my community you're dipping into kool-aid
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and you don't even know the flavor uh you need to you need to come to the city of north and see the
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reforms that we put in place the new jersey head of the aclu has said that i embraced reforms not just
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in action but indeed sir you are trying to shift the view from what you created i mean i get cringe
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chills you're trying watching him try to pull that line off into the kool-aid yeah when you don't even
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know the flavor oh wow now i am not the most cultured man in america pat um so the you're
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dipping into the kool-aid but you you're unaware of the flavor first of all flavor is always
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labeled on the it's on the outside of the of the container very easy to if you're dipping into it
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it's obviously in a bowl of some kind and you can see what flavor it is right because it's colored
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yeah yeah they're colored bowl would be grape red would be maybe strawberry flavored or cherry
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right orange would be i don't know orange flavored you know we have a dumb expression
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and so let's say you get the flavor wrong you get another delicious flavor of kool-aid is that the
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outcome here that sounds terrible here's a guy by the way you know here's a guy who has who has
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spent years walking through the walls of apartments and saying oh yeah to people when it comes to the
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kool-aid man kool-aid man he has been delivering real information on kool-aid for decades right and
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cory booker comes in here with this ridiculous saying and tries to throw all of that information
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spreading out the window you know the wrong it's wrong it's wrong i uh i i'm fascinated by this
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because i mean look i understand that perhaps i don't have the connection to some of these things
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that maybe i need to understand the cory bookers because do you live in his community he's a man
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with his multiple condos that are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars uh his multiple businesses
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he's started up and somehow got millions of dollars of funding without any knowledge of how to actually
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run the businesses which are now out of business um and he was doing that while he was a mayor of a
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city cory booker's uh his history of corruption in that city is is fascinating we did an entire
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episode on it a few weeks ago on the television show but the idea that uh so you're dipping trying
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to understand you're dipping into the kool-aid but you don't know the flavor it just doesn't seem all
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that problematic to me it doesn't i just because let's say you think it's strawberry okay but it turns
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out to be orange yeah like i are you gonna vomit it's just really it really tastes good still i
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mean it's a delicious sugary drink i mean as soon as it's in your glass don't you see that hey i oh i
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thought that was cherry but no it's orange so i'm gonna drink it now anyway um now there is a there's
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a pathway here pat for people like us if you dip into the kool-aid and you find out it's round up
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that might be a different issue now you got a problem i have i have had a drink so for me it would
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not be a problem but it's icky right rat poison might be a better uh a better a better example so
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um there is a pathway though for people like us pat to bridge the gap between our community the uh
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evil white whitey white tastic community of the suburbs where we've walled off our community in a
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bubble uh so that no one else of color can get into it that community that i assume that we live in
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because because we voted conservative in the past and the community of cory booker not the one that
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he's making millions of dollars and living in a beautiful condo in the nicest area of washington dc
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not that cory booker but the one that he's portraying here you know a man of the people
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of the streets that's him he knows this talk this is natural for him that wasn't the first time he had
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ever said that it is his entire life this that pathway however to this is the bridge there is called
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urban dictionary.com now if you go to urban dictionary.com and you type in something you
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don't understand it will attempt to tell you what it means so here don't be dipping in the kool-aid when
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you don't know the flavor apparently means when you say to a dumb person that they are getting in
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your business now i should i should point out you may have heard b-u-s-i-n-e-s-s it's actually b-i-z-n-e-s-s so
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when they're getting in your business or messing with stuff they don't need to be messing with
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and we have an example sentence here for you um bill if bill were to say lmao i bet she dumped you
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because you were a cheap ass nick might respond man don't be dipping in the kool-aid when you don't
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know the flavor and i think now with that perspective yeah we can all understand and
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appreciate what booker was talking about which by the way what he was what biden was talking about
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was accurate you know look is it a terrible thing to hire rudy julian guy to to work on security in a
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major city well rudy did a pretty freaking good job with it so i don't think that that is a rudy
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turned that town around yeah and his people now the rudy juliani of today is looked at differently
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yes right right but back in early 90s right i mean he fixed times square he he did turn new york around
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and juliani did this for uh cities all around the country he you know doing consulting and stuff for
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cities all around the country and america to try to replicate those same results so the fact that
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booker did that is not actually controversial but you see booker avoiding it because now
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juliani's tied to trump and you can't say anything good about trump i mean they called him a white
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nationalist last night on television flat out racist flat out racist multiple times they said he was
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helping al-qaeda jeez i mean it is they just cannot stop themselves the best of the glenbeck program
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glenbeck program 888-727-BECK oh geez oh no why why are you here jeffy what what happened i wanted to
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stop by to a little to a little bit of the fat why to a little bit of the fat with you today again
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day after the debate why excited to be here for the fourth time why who invited you is what i want
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to know you did no you no that's that's completely untrue which candidate invited you to this debate
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michael bennett okay michael bennett it probably i would have guessed it was gillibrand because
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she's the most annoying so there's no doubt about that she is really cringeworthy man oh did you see
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her last night talking about uh how she she's trying to you know she's a white woman yeah but
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she's trying to act as if she's the voice of all the different colors of the rainbow it's really
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agonizing she's a white woman but she's the voice of minorities yes and she's she's very she's got a
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lot of guilt about being a white person she does not like that of course she does not a fan of her
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whiteness no uh here is gillibrand talking about her uh her her embrace of all the colors of the
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rainbow i think as a white woman of privilege who is a u.s senator running for president united states
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it is also my responsibility to lift over those voices that aren't being listened to and i can talk
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to those white women in the suburbs that voted for trump and explain to them what white privilege
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actually is that when their son is walking down the street with a bag of m&m's in his pocket
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wearing a hoodie his whiteness is what protects him from not being shot oh my god take your white
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privilege bs and stick it that might be the worst clip of the entire thing that entire debate number
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one number one imagine being a white woman in the suburbs and hearing that it's so condescending
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you're going to explain to me white privilege senator thank you really are you because i can't
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wait for that one number two if she had white privilege it must not be effective because she's
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at zero percent i mean you're telling me white privilege doesn't even get you to one percent in
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the polls not even the one that's depressing and and this is something that i don't i don't i mean
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this is a kind of a news-based program so i'm going to break a little news here it's going to be
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stunning if you're driving you may want to pull over to the side of the road if you want to have
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that moment because this is you may just jerk the wheel into a pole if you're going 65 of the highway
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right now i once and it's only happened once saw a person of color walk safely in a hoodie
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i saw i swear i saw it now when i pulled around the corner he may have been shot immediately i don't
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know but i of course he was it was a good 30 seconds of safe walking wow a person of color in
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a hoodie safely strolled for 30 seconds in my purview do you have video proof of that i don't
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and that's why no one believes it everyone's like oh did you get abducted by aliens too and yes and i
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don't have video of that either but this is real i saw this happen they act as if like every you know
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again the numbers do not support the idea at all that police are shooting black people at any rate
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higher than than uh is first of all connected to the crimes and actions of the people involved
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and number two uh it is they shoot more white people than they do black people right by about
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we know the uh people you're much much much more likely to be killed by someone of the same race
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black people are much more likely to be killed by black people white people are much more likely to
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be killed by white people yeah because you're more likely to be killed by someone around if you decide
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to break it out into the percentages and say which one is more oh don't you dare start start on that
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right i'm not going to don't you dare you had a story about the police i did well you know one of the
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things that uh is helping the police in your in your numbers that we don't get to them no i will
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not i definitely will not give you numbers from the fbi crime report because i know that would be
00:24:55.140
that would be the most racist thing you could possibly do today and i'll not have it is there
00:24:59.320
a more racist organization than the fbi producing their crime report with the numbers no no no no there
00:25:05.360
is not but the police officers are starting to wear body cams now which is proving to their benefit
00:25:10.520
more times than not yeah it seems yes but there are also times i'd want him if i was an officer
00:25:16.040
me too absolutely absolutely but they're more there there are times when uh you see a story like this
00:25:20.940
where the 65 year old lady in oklahoma got pulled over by uh you know by a police officer and his body
00:25:26.300
cam on and you go through and start breaking down the interaction and i don't know during this video
00:25:35.000
i'm i'm for the cop and then i'm against the i'm for the police officer and i'm against the police
00:25:39.940
officer by the end i'm still i'm still confused i think i'm a little torn on this one too so we
00:25:44.740
start off with the original stop uh with the officer pulling the lady over well i did issue a for a
00:25:51.160
defective equipment it's 80 dollars i have till september 16th to take care of this uh get you to sign
00:25:56.940
there with the exodus so you don't even give a warning for this you've been driving around for six
00:26:01.720
months like that i'm truthful well i'm not going to give you a warning for something you've been
00:26:05.480
driving for six months well i don't want to sign it because i don't want to do 80 dollars you don't
00:26:11.280
want to sign it no because i don't think that i deserve to pay 80 dollars for something that is
00:26:17.400
fixable and i can fix it okay so now she doesn't want to sign the ticket right so you uh you go
00:26:23.240
through the process i've done that too where i've been a little pissed off at the you don't want
00:26:26.800
to sign the ticket and i don't want to sign it and it's the police officer's discretion
00:26:29.820
what happens here at this point though i'm completely with the police officer yes 100
00:26:35.600
completely yes she's just being belligerent and like it's i had a friend once who got pulled over
00:26:40.720
uh for speeding and he said um they said why were you speeding and he said well i guess i just tend
00:26:45.660
to speed on this road and i was like that's the worst excuse i've ever heard you're telling him
00:26:49.960
you've committed this crime like a hundred times right and so uh here it's like it's nice of her and
00:26:55.660
and you give her some brownie points for being honest and saying it's been six months but once
00:26:59.440
once the officer has that knowledge he has to give you the ticket right and so he's going to give her
00:27:03.420
the ticket and you know it's it's his discretion what happens is when you get pulled over for
00:27:07.640
instance for speeding and they say you were doing 60 miles an hour in a 40 mile an hour zone and you
00:27:12.720
just tell them well i wasn't going to be out that long i wasn't even out for an hour i don't even
00:27:16.800
know what are you talking about wait what did that work for you uh no okay no so then uh now
00:27:24.380
the officer is uh starting to get a little ticked off right instead of instead of saying instead of
00:27:29.240
ripping the ticket off and giving it to her throwing it in the car and saying well you're still going to
00:27:32.920
get the ticket you still have to pay for it whether you sign it or not and really that's what happens
00:27:36.500
it doesn't negate the ticket in any way not signing it doesn't do anything you still have to do it
00:27:40.920
yeah so now the officer is you know he's got a little he's got his back up against the wall a little
00:27:45.780
bit in his mind all right that's all you want to step out of the car why because you're under
00:27:52.680
arrest step out okay step out of the vehicle now we're not signing the ticket you can have that
00:27:58.040
happen you be fair with me and i'll be fair with you step out no you're under arrest no i'm not
00:28:04.520
no i'm placing you under arrest step out because you're not making me under no arrest stop do not
00:28:13.040
do not take off oh give me that and i'll sign it step out no we're beyond that you want me to step
00:28:18.040
out okay so right now right now okay so okay so right now though we've had two opportunities
00:28:25.860
two opportunities for the police officer to take the air out of this bubble de-escalate right the
00:28:31.300
whole thing he could have wait at one point she i know she's he said she said just give it to me and
00:28:36.200
i'll sign it and he we're way past that now right so i mean at that point he could have just given it
00:28:42.280
correct okay and i i'll give you that one now he's pissed and he doesn't want to right and i kind of
00:28:47.640
don't blame him for that how long was the time between this first video and the second video was
00:28:52.800
he trying to convince her for five minutes was it 30 seconds some of this dash cam video seems to be
00:28:57.180
edited a little bit from the police officer so i don't know if it was a 20 minute right if it's 20
00:29:02.440
minutes and she's arguing with him for 20 minutes and then he finally says all right now you're
00:29:05.700
under arrest yeah the original dash cam i have uh it's it's easier to understand his position if
00:29:10.860
it's if it's 15 seconds and she says she's not going to sign it three times and then he says you're
00:29:16.100
under arrest that you know there there is a big line there so you're still kind of on the police
00:29:20.500
officer side yeah yeah and she takes off and she is being belligerent and she did by the way start
00:29:25.300
to roll away and stop right well you can absolutely not do that with a police officer and then she left
00:29:30.780
and then she left and then she pulled away that was a dumb move so now okay really dumb but he has
00:29:35.400
all the information on her right he knows where she lives he knows all that information he doesn't
00:29:40.040
have to pursue her except he's ticked right you pull away from a cop after a traffic stop you
00:29:46.100
absolutely absolutely and it was a horrible traffic stop too because she had a light out
00:29:49.940
anyway the uh i mean the criminal activity of that is just huge again though who does that would you
00:29:57.600
ever do that not you jeffy pat would you ever do that and the reason you wouldn't do it and i've
00:30:01.780
been pulled over 15 times right so i've had plenty of i've had ample opportunity right yeah no way and
00:30:07.240
i think most people wouldn't do it than that right yeah you know better than that you don't disrespect
00:30:11.400
the cop like that so now she's pulled away and he's pursuing her and uh finally catches up to
00:30:16.860
get out of the car get out of the car now he's pulled his weapon on her get out of the car you
00:30:25.580
run i mean now the gun thing is maybe a tad extreme now he's pulled his weapon out he's pursued her
00:30:32.120
geez got her pulled over we hear multiple police officers now we've really escalated here we sure
00:30:37.580
have we have really escalated are you with the cop on at this point or the or the person look if
00:30:43.460
someone runs from a cop yeah and now you can say well she's only an old white woman and i know 65
00:30:50.340
years lady look i know i know what you guys dealt with her with a black person in a hoodie we know
00:30:55.140
what you do there well they'd be dead already but again if this was a a 25 year old soon as he saw the
00:31:00.900
person in the car with the hoodie it should be shot it would be dead right yeah if this is a 25 year
00:31:05.680
old guy in a car and he pulled away they would absolutely go after him and do exactly what they're
00:31:10.820
doing here and the reason what that's a little bit sexist on my part because i would think almost
00:31:15.820
i think i might believe it's almost appropriate yeah to approach him with a gun if it's a 25 year
00:31:21.000
old kid yeah and a part of that is like you might suspect there's an additional crime why are you
00:31:25.520
running from the cop when it's an 80 ticket you're expecting that maybe there's something more going
00:31:30.140
on here the belligerent older lady i just think okay come on oh come but again an older older lady
00:31:36.560
what is she gonna do she's got a finger right and she can pull a trigger but he's already dealt
00:31:40.780
with that he's already he's already seen that you know the odds are she's not armed right i mean
00:31:46.060
she's already dealt with her up to the vehicle but he's not shooting he's just no he's not shooting
00:31:49.880
right he knows how to use his weapon he pulls his weapon so that she gets you know ordering her
00:31:53.900
out of the car and then uh then what happens transpires all right get out of the car
00:31:59.220
oh and now he's gonna drag her out just pull her right out
00:32:18.940
and he tased her put your hands behind your back
00:32:32.840
i mean okay now she okay there's no question she's in the wrong all right yes so he put his
00:32:38.160
weapon away drags her out of the truck drags this old woman out of the truck throws her down on the
00:32:43.600
ground there's no she's ordering her to put her hands behind her back she obviously has going to
00:32:47.840
have a difficult time doing that as a 65 year old woman not quite uh as in shape as us uh and so
00:32:55.420
she's going to have a difficult not as in shape as us can't put her arms i mean difficult she can't
00:33:00.440
do it so she rolls over and as she's rolling over she's kicking and she kicks him in the groin
00:33:04.560
oh man i don't know that that was i mean that was an accident oh stop it it was not an accident
00:33:09.840
so then she rolls away and he tases her oh i tases her you're you're infuriating on the story
00:33:15.080
come on yeah i think come on i'm with him so then thank you i'm with him she is absolutely doing
00:33:20.980
everything wrong on this in this issue and like look i think you're right could he have maybe
00:33:26.180
de-escalated it yes at one point and probably maybe should have taken that window but she is
00:33:31.220
acting completely irresponsibly she's doing things that she absolutely should not do and then you
00:33:37.140
come up with this she's old so she can't put her hands behind her back nonsense she's holding her
00:33:42.480
you just dragged this woman out of her car what if she laid down and put her hands to her sides
00:33:47.320
then she's not doing that either but she got up and kicked a police officer in the balls first of
00:33:51.340
all she rolled over she didn't she rolled over and kicked a police officer in the balls
00:33:55.380
then he tased her and he gets her handcuffed later you see she gets her handcuffed and then he's trying
00:34:01.220
to be are you okay are you hurt everything okay she's like no i'm not okay i'm hurt is he hurt
00:34:06.800
because that's happened to me before and it doesn't feel good no it doesn't so now she's been
00:34:11.400
charged with a felony assault on a police officer one misdemeanor for resisting arrest and let's not
00:34:17.180
forget about the broken taillight the towing charges the lot charges all all of this all of this for
00:34:22.700
a broken taillight kind of kind of shows she should have maybe signed the ticket yeah and she would
00:34:26.640
have avoided all of it i'm 100 cop on this one i gotta say and that's the thing you know this is what
00:34:33.440
everybody does with these incidents it's just what jeffy just did which is she does all these other
00:34:39.340
things and then she'd say all of that over a taillight no no an 80 ticket was over the taillight
00:34:45.260
it could have been over a long time ago it could have been had the police officer had better training
00:34:58.460
jim garrity of national review also the author of between two scorpions a dangerous click novel
00:35:14.260
uh so jim talk talk to me a little generally here i think like in 2016 the republicans i think
00:35:21.880
attempted at least to learn lessons about sort of the structure of this where they had the kiddie table
00:35:27.320
debates and the adult debates and there's so many candidates and i don't know if they have any idea
00:35:31.460
how to deal with it looking at the way the democrats have structured this did they learn any lessons do
00:35:36.760
you think this has improved the process at all yeah i suppose if you're um andrew yang or uh marian
00:35:44.520
williamson or uh even you know michael bennett who believe it or not is a senator from colorado
00:35:49.760
uh he said you know very low little low low name id but you know he is really he's a real person
00:35:55.020
america john delaney really exists uh look john delaney has been on prime time debates for now it's
00:36:01.340
going to be four hours now uh maybe five if you depending on your stopwatch that's actually pretty
00:36:06.180
good you know that's not something that bobby jindal got and all he did was turn around the state
00:36:09.600
of louisiana yeah uh during his governorship down there um one of the look i i wrote yesterday in the
00:36:16.700
in the corner on national review online there's there's not parties would never choose to have
00:36:21.880
25 presidential candidates as the uh democrats have this time they would not choose to have
00:36:27.020
17 and my fear is that 2020 you know trump wins trump loses either way you know could have possibly
00:36:34.020
two parties could have you know no incumbent nominee um 25 might look like even small there's
00:36:39.620
nothing to it's a tragedy of the commons everybody's got an incentive to run
00:36:43.520
um and they end up making it hard because think about it think about all the candidates who went
00:36:47.680
into it wanting to be good in a debate but the measuring stick is not are you good in a debate
00:36:52.800
the measuring stick is can you be memorable and that's a much higher bar to clear and that's one
00:36:58.980
of the reasons like you know marianne williamson talking about dark psychic forces that's memorable
00:37:04.000
you know how your health care plan would affect the uh current health insurance of union members
00:37:09.820
in michigan that's probably not going to be as memorable yeah as everything else on there it does
00:37:15.300
it does incentivize sort of strange behavior in a way you know you have this situation like the delaney
00:37:21.360
um and elizabeth warren back and forth on health care was i thought really instructive to that it's
00:37:26.280
like delaney was i thought on substance just smoked her i mean he knew those he knew the topics he he
00:37:31.860
really had good knowledge of all i mean he went deep he was impressive i thought uh delaney in that
00:37:36.560
debate and obviously he's working against a room who really wants you know something more left but
00:37:41.360
the memorable moment is elizabeth warren saying well why do you run for president if you don't want to
00:37:46.120
try for difficult things well what you know again we were talking about this before it's like it could
00:37:50.260
be well wing let's we're going to make wings sprout out of everyone's back well that's a difficult
00:37:55.100
thing too but you know there are some things where you're limited and you know he's making a very
00:37:59.860
pragmatic smart point and the reward goes to elizabeth warren who comes up with kind of a catchy
00:38:05.960
line and everyone cheers at it that's just you're incentivizing bad behavior yeah stew if i'm ever
00:38:12.480
on a debate stage and one of my rivals says if we can dream it we can do it i tell them flap your arms
00:38:20.700
and fly see how that works no some things you dream you cannot do um and it's interesting because
00:38:27.760
everybody remembers warren slamming uh delaney if you look back to what delaney said the moment before
00:38:34.960
she was saying scoffing at him about his his skepticism his pessimism his lack of ambition
00:38:41.200
it was he wanted to rebuild our improve our infrastructure uh create jobs raise wages create
00:38:49.140
universal health care uh there's like one or two other fairly big goals in there that's not an
00:38:54.840
unambitious agenda that's that's fairly standard issue democratic politics and and you know elizabeth
00:39:00.920
warren saying oh my goodness can you believe this guy you know why should anyone you know run for
00:39:05.900
president if you're going to talk about what you can't do well i mean for starters there's the
00:39:09.840
constitution uh there's the power of the president of the united states the the need to build a consensus
00:39:16.600
in congress to get it through the house to get it through that there's judicial review the checks and
00:39:20.940
balances maybe what you're proposing isn't uh constitutional um you know maybe it would be good to have
00:39:26.780
let's have one debate where every candidate just gets up and say i'd like to do x but the power the
00:39:32.420
constitution power does the president does not have that power last debate presidential candidates were
00:39:37.300
saying we're going to get rid of the filibuster wait a minute the president doesn't decide what the
00:39:42.340
senate does with the filibuster you know it it really turns into when i am king i will do these things
00:39:48.300
and that's not how the american system works and this just generally speaking as uh as a country because
00:39:54.080
this i think very much affects uh the right as well we really are at the point where we're just
00:39:58.980
elevating these politicians into kings and heroes and you know you are judged as as your adherence to
00:40:06.780
whatever they're talking about at a particular moment that seems to be certainly has certainly hit the
00:40:13.000
you know the right side of the aisle it's i think certainly hitting the left side of the aisle as well
00:40:17.560
and it is the exact opposite of the way this country was formed and and the way we're supposed to be
00:40:23.280
thinking about these things this is not supposed to be some big contest where we all run towards
00:40:27.180
our hero and have them solve our all of our problems we have a system and it's worked pretty
00:40:31.540
well for the last couple hundred years it has uh my former colleague i'm sad to see him go jonah
00:40:37.800
goldberg used to you know quote i believe it was our william rusher who was one of the publishers of
00:40:41.620
national review who said you know look you know you want to like a politician fine but never fall in
00:40:47.340
love with a politician and he didn't mean romantically he just meant you know that that sense of where
00:40:51.140
you put him up on a pedestal just because you know first of all if you're a committed conservative or
00:40:55.540
you have some sort of issues or policies or beliefs you really believe in sooner or later that
00:41:00.900
politician nine if not nine times out of ten probably 99 times out of a hundred they're going to have to
00:41:06.460
compromise in some way and you're going to look at that compromise you're going to say oh i can't
00:41:10.200
believe they did that what a what a sellout how could he do that you know but that's the nature of
00:41:15.060
governing right that at some point you have to if you want to get those 51 votes in the senate you want to
00:41:19.600
get 60 votes if there's going to be a filibuster you want to get a majority you're going to have
00:41:23.280
to give a little you're going to have to say okay i'll give you some on column a and you you give me
00:41:27.080
some on column b and that's that's political reality those of us who care about these things tend to be
00:41:32.920
if not idealists then we have this idea in our heads of how things ought to work and sometimes
00:41:38.420
that's plausible and feasible in the political realm and sometimes it's not so the answer is to never
00:41:43.440
get too attached to these guys and i like to periodically joke you know look presidents stew their temp
00:41:48.740
workers you know you got a four-year contract if you're good we'll keep you another four years and
00:41:53.320
after that you're gone even if we think you're doing a great job um and we shouldn't be thinking
00:41:58.180
about them as these you know grand men of history who you know already picturing the statue of them
00:42:03.800
on the horse that'll be you know somewhere in washington or something like that yeah rushmore is
00:42:08.800
filled up full up guys thank god um so uh let me do this uh let me give you a scenario here i want
00:42:15.400
to take off the table uh sanders and kamala harris and warren and biden and i'm going to take
00:42:23.120
buddha judge too off off the table for you you have to pick one person who you think has the best chance
00:42:28.660
to win not the one you want to you want to win but the one who has the best chance to win if you
00:42:32.420
had to pull someone out of those lower tiers what do you what do you do wow that's that you
00:42:37.160
seriously deep down it's a five-person race and that's that five you just took off the
00:42:41.940
the table there are the five um i guess you know the for a while beto was generating excitement in
00:42:49.280
the very beginning um although i think looking back i mean i i have really relished the the uh
00:42:54.900
the icarus-like fall of better or work over the last year or two because i remember writing about
00:43:00.260
this guy uh back during the early part of the senate race saying you know look give him a little
00:43:04.360
bit of credit he's kind of charismatic um he campaigns hard in his races that he won for
00:43:09.500
el paso city council in there but beyond that no he's not you know the only thing that's kennedy-esque
00:43:14.320
about this guy is his driving record and uh the you know and so the idea that it went better than
00:43:20.480
usual for a texas democrat but you know not this world beater and that the only way he was going to
00:43:25.400
beat ted cruz is if ted cruz was asleep at the switch and that that didn't happen so he goes in there and
00:43:31.120
all of a sudden it's not you know him buoyed by a media that just absolutely loathes ted cruz right
00:43:38.060
and it's you know he doesn't have it and he doesn't have the national media operating as his uh
00:43:43.080
uh as his you know his press you know issue and press releases for me he got glowing coverage
00:43:48.300
probably on par with obama in 07 and 08 and now you put him on and he just wilts and all of a sudden
00:43:54.120
the jump in on the diner comes kind of weird and you hear he tried to trick his wife into eating baby
00:43:59.060
poop and you're like what's wrong with this man um you know so by that by the standards of whoever had
00:44:05.220
that stature early on beta or work had that kind of stature um beyond that booker is probably in the
00:44:13.480
best shot uh the best shape in south carolina um and i think if he had stuck to what he had built
00:44:18.960
his career on kind of this a little bit kumbaya-ish but you know almost like marianne williamson we're
00:44:24.220
going to win this race with love you know but uh cory booker back in his newark mayor days was not a
00:44:29.440
down the line lefty um and so there was some potential there but uh i think that the one of
00:44:35.700
the interesting stories about this 25 person race on the democratic side is that early on it looks
00:44:40.560
like most democratic primary voters or at least the people who are answering their phone for the polls
00:44:44.540
um looked at the top that the massive group picked five dishes from the buffet table they liked
00:44:51.080
and they're really not interested in looking at the other options that much yeah i think that that is
00:44:55.640
the state of affairs at the moment um before you go jim can you give me a couple minutes set me up to
00:45:00.700
uh to read between two scorpions sure uh for those who are used to reading me in politics this is really
00:45:07.000
not all that political uh this was my attempt to uh uh vent some creative energies into the realm of
00:45:14.260
the spy thriller i love brad thor tom clancy uh daniel silva all that kind of stuff um people who have
00:45:21.520
read it have really enjoyed it i think we're up to 118 reviews on amazon uh it is available at this
00:45:26.920
point only on amazon so if you really hate jeff bezos i'm sorry to i'm sorry to inform you of that
00:45:31.580
uh available in kindle available paper book it's an entire 13 on paperback i think you can do that
00:45:37.500
or if you if that's too much for your blood it's a 3.99 on kindle and i think most people are enjoying
00:45:42.740
it is a kind of little quirky a little bit odd funnier than your typical thriller uh but it really much is
00:45:47.960
about a terrorist plot i just kind of sat down and said okay if i were a terrible terrorist how would
00:45:53.360
i attack america how are we vulnerable and without giving too much away i think our social divisions
00:45:58.660
are our cultural divisions are where we're very divided and if somebody set out to tear apart our
00:46:04.420
social fabric um i feel like we've done about half the work for them so far so uh thrills chills lots of
00:46:11.060
people are enjoying it so i'm very pleased with that hope everybody checks it out uh good beach reading
00:46:15.940
for the remainder of uh summer that we have here very cool between two scorpions a dangerous click
00:46:20.160
novel it's available now of course you get jim's stuff all the time on national review jim thanks
00:46:24.060
so much for joining us thanks for having me stew great to be here the blaze radio network