The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Joe Bastardi & James Kitchen ｜ 2⧸22⧸21

00:00:00.000 Great podcast today.

00:00:01.720 We have the woman who broke the story on Coca-Cola

00:00:04.940 and their Be Less White training program last week,

00:00:09.800 Karlyn Borisenko.

00:00:11.300 She's going to be with us.

00:00:12.660 Also, we have the attorney that is representing

00:00:15.760 the Christian pastor who has been arrested

00:00:20.460 and put in a maximum security prison.

00:00:23.580 No bail.

00:00:24.480 He's waiting for his trial

00:00:26.060 because he violated the COVID restrictions.

00:00:30.000 A pretty amazing story.

00:00:32.480 Also, more on the weather and global climate change.

00:00:37.700 John Kerry says we only have nine years to stop it.

00:00:41.180 Now even less because he said that the other day.

00:00:43.000 Yeah, so it's crazy.

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00:01:00.000 John Kerry has come out on Friday

00:01:06.420 and said that the record cold temperatures

00:01:09.040 we're seeing global warming.

00:01:11.880 I don't know how that works, but the guy who, you know, flies on private jets

00:01:18.200 and has a mega yacht and several mansions, but he's different than all of us.

00:01:22.760 He says it is growing too late.

00:01:25.820 We now only have, write this down on your calendar, Stu.

00:01:29.460 Now we have John Kerry giving us nine years.

00:01:33.560 So we have an official new clock, a new countdown, nine years to fix this.

00:01:39.980 So, okay, we got that down.

00:01:42.600 We got it down.

00:01:43.880 No problem.

00:01:44.520 Don't worry about it.

00:01:44.900 We only have nine years to fix it, and that's why it needs to be a cram down.

00:01:48.960 Now, some would say that, no, no, I don't think I'm going to buy that.

00:01:56.840 Some would say, no, I don't think the cold weather is because of global climate change,

00:02:03.360 because Texas has had this kind of cold weather before.

00:02:07.200 It happens from time to time, you know, but maybe it's just me, but the world is waiting

00:02:15.200 for America, even though reports now come out that about 230 miles east of Moscow, there

00:02:29.220 is a there's a pack of dogs that have been discovered that their fur is blight, a bright

00:02:35.380 blue.

00:02:37.300 Now, it could be that they've been hanging out around the chemical plant, but Moscow doesn't

00:02:44.900 know.

00:02:45.460 They have no idea.

00:02:46.520 There may be an entirely new species of dog that is bright blue.

00:02:51.860 But remember, America is the crap hole that is holding the rest of the world back.

00:02:59.380 Joe Bastardi is with us, and he is the chief forecaster.

00:03:05.700 Weather Bell, and also the author of The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War.

00:03:12.340 Boy, oh boy, oh boy.

00:03:14.320 Guess what he's going to say.

00:03:15.560 Hi, Joe.

00:03:17.300 Hi.

00:03:17.860 Who would have ever thought?

00:03:19.680 Hi, Stu.

00:03:20.600 Hi, Glenn.

00:03:21.300 Hi, Pat.

00:03:21.860 Hi, everybody.

00:03:22.480 You let in with John Kerry.

00:03:25.860 And I'm like, oh, man, you're just like waving a red flag in front of me.

00:03:30.420 Who would have ever thought that John Kerry could be an advertisement for my book?

00:03:35.860 Right.

00:03:36.080 The whole book just counters that kind of, there's actually a chapter on that, the weaponization

00:03:42.720 of global, the global temperature.

00:03:45.880 And, you know, I just, I'm watching these statements and I can't believe it.

00:03:53.120 Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

00:03:54.900 We only have nine years now.

00:03:57.580 And I know we had 10 years about 15 years ago.

00:04:00.440 But this time, we now have nine years to solve this thing.

00:04:06.280 Otherwise, we're doomed.

00:04:08.080 We're doomed.

00:04:08.880 And you saw what happened in Texas, right?

00:04:12.120 Yeah.

00:04:12.420 Yeah.

00:04:12.900 You better believe I saw what happened in Texas since we were, my company was way out

00:04:17.520 in front of it.

00:04:18.120 You know, we have major clients in Texas, construction companies.

00:04:22.080 And on February 10th, you know, as publicly as I could, and as many people as I could contact,

00:04:29.400 you know, my dad used to say, if you have to tell someone you're good at something, you

00:04:33.340 can't be that good at it.

00:04:34.540 Right.

00:04:34.860 But, you know, not everybody follows me or whatever.

00:04:38.520 Now, February 10th, we said category, the winter equivalent of a Category 5 hurricane.

00:04:45.980 Most five-day extreme winter weather event in Texas history.

00:04:50.920 And I actually put the maps of 1899 on that infamous outbreak in 1899.

00:04:57.460 By the way, I'd like to question Senator Kerry, how did that happen?

00:05:02.320 1899 with that outbreak and then the 1900 Galveston hurricane.

00:05:05.780 You can't get more extreme than those type of swings that were going on back then.

00:05:12.680 And the only thing I could say is that it must have been the horses that were adding

00:05:17.200 whatever they were adding to the atmosphere.

00:05:18.180 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:05:18.660 Yeah, the methane.

00:05:20.000 So wait a minute.

00:05:21.480 You, if I'm not mistaken, didn't you call the state officials and say, hey, guys, prepare.

00:05:27.840 Here it comes.

00:05:28.460 Well, what happened was, you know, I have contacts, and one of the contacts is Sean Hannity,

00:05:35.900 who forwarded my book.

00:05:37.860 And, you know, I was mailing Sean and everybody, Wayne Advance, and Sean called Senator Cruz

00:05:46.760 and Governor Abbott.

00:05:47.760 And Friday night, I got a call from Senator Cruz, and we talked for about a half hour,

00:05:54.580 and then we talked with Governor Abbott and then the staffs of Senator Cruz's staff Saturday

00:06:02.240 morning to really try to get them ahead.

00:06:05.140 But by that time, it was sort of too late as far as what the state could do.

00:06:11.100 You needed a response starting four or five days away.

00:06:14.420 I actually tweeted that, Glenn, that there should, and this was the middle of, it was

00:06:19.080 on Wednesday, I tweeted that there should be a federal response the same way as preparation

00:06:24.940 for a hurricane goes, a winter-type response, getting that equipment in there, understanding

00:06:31.360 that we were going to have the kind of freeze-ups we were going to have.

00:06:35.240 And, you know, Saturday morning, I was digging into the Texas newspapers, and I realized that

00:06:40.260 they really didn't get it.

00:06:41.720 They were saying, oh, it's going to be cold, but we've had these kind of things before.

00:06:45.920 This was completely, it was 1899.

00:06:49.860 It was different from 83.

00:06:52.900 83 was a little bit colder in many places, but not as much snow in 83, the 83 outbreak.

00:07:00.760 Now, I know all this stuff because I have no life except the good Lord above, my family,

00:07:06.500 and the weather.

00:07:07.000 So I go in and dig into all these maps.

00:07:09.920 My father's a meteorologist.

00:07:11.320 He taught me the foundation I stand on today, was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow.

00:07:16.100 So if I know yesterday, if I see maps from yesterday, I say, wait a minute, that's showing

00:07:21.860 up again.

00:07:22.960 Guess what's going to happen?

00:07:24.620 And the interesting thing about this is I do this because I love it.

00:07:28.960 This is what God made me to do.

00:07:30.460 So I'm going to do it as hard as I can.

00:07:31.920 And the second thing is it benefits my company because what happens is everybody is just looking

00:07:38.280 at the computer models and consensus and so many great forecasters out there.

00:07:42.900 But if you can add something more, something different and help people out with that, you

00:07:51.780 add value to the product and then you see what happens.

00:07:55.260 All right.

00:07:55.560 So one of the things that you added, you said the three previous big freezes predicted

00:08:02.640 this one.

00:08:04.020 Is that just from the maps, the computer models and the...

00:08:07.200 Well, yeah.

00:08:08.120 There's certain things that go on.

00:08:09.940 There's certain signs that go on.

00:08:11.380 For instance, a week before the freeze, I have a couple of...

00:08:14.660 I'm not going to say their names.

00:08:16.040 They're meteorologists in Little Rock, Arkansas.

00:08:19.000 On Saturday night after I got out of church, we had a big map discussion.

00:08:22.660 They called me up and we were talking about this.

00:08:24.900 This is a week before.

00:08:26.500 And here's what they were confronted with.

00:08:28.180 They said, Joe, we're reading what you're saying.

00:08:30.080 You're referencing 83.

00:08:31.500 You're referencing 1899.

00:08:33.400 None of the computer models are predicting those numbers.

00:08:37.200 They're all 50 and a low of 35 and things like that.

00:08:41.060 And so we went over the whole thing.

00:08:43.260 And there's a certain type of way that Texas gets really cold.

00:08:47.460 You need the Arctic Ridge of High Pressure to run from Montana down to Midland.

00:08:53.280 And what happens is it's high pressure that actually causes Texas to get brutally cold.

00:08:59.080 You get the buildup of low-level, cold, dense air in the northern plains and it oozes southward.

00:09:04.720 There are these small pulses that come in.

00:09:06.840 And one of the biggest things that was going on, folks, was that the run-up to this,

00:09:12.060 the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday period, the computer-generated numbers were busting horribly one day away.

00:09:19.980 They were predicting a high of 50 and it would be 40, high of 40, it would be 28.

00:09:24.200 And what happens is if you're – let's say you're automating your load estimates if you're an energy company

00:09:31.940 and you're saying, well, we're going to use this computer model that says it's going to be 50.

00:09:36.140 Well, guess what's going to happen if you're in Dallas is there's going to be day after day after day of buildup of error.

00:09:43.640 And then what happens when the real cold – the strongest –

00:09:46.500 So how can our models be this wrong and yet they say they can predict what's coming in nine years?

00:09:54.540 They can't.

00:09:55.320 They're tools.

00:09:56.080 And I talk about that in my book.

00:09:58.440 You know, I think people should get the – you know, I know it sounds like I'm shamelessly plugging the book,

00:10:03.560 but it's almost as if the book was written for what's going on now.

00:10:08.560 I didn't know Joe Biden was going to be president when I wrote that book, right?

00:10:13.620 And yet I wrote it because I felt there was something to say and alert people to about the weaponization of this situation.

00:10:20.920 No, the models, the tools to use, see, they're not the answers.

00:10:25.500 They're ways to get answers.

00:10:26.880 They're outstanding ways to get answers.

00:10:29.440 But you've got to know, based on what happened in the past in comparisons, how to use them and when to use them.

00:10:36.760 And it's a matter of weighting.

00:10:38.440 It's a matter of what we call attribution.

00:10:40.460 And that's the problem with the climate.

00:10:42.180 They're the guys on the climate side of the issue.

00:10:44.280 I see what they're saying.

00:10:46.400 I need a lot of good people on that side of the issue.

00:10:48.660 They've done great research.

00:10:50.320 I read their stuff all the time.

00:10:51.840 I want to know what they know, not what I know.

00:10:53.840 I can't increase what I know unless I hear from someone else.

00:10:57.060 So what happens is that they look at one thing and put all their eggs in one basket.

00:11:03.240 When you have all these models, all these what we call analogs of the past, the physical drivers of the atmosphere at that time,

00:11:11.940 you have to decide as a human being, as a forecaster, try to do a service for your client or whoever, how to weight them.

00:11:21.360 Is this stronger than this one?

00:11:23.140 How do you blend them together?

00:11:24.920 And that takes a lot of dirty work.

00:11:27.580 You know, there's a saying, everybody has a will to win.

00:11:31.340 But the will to prepare to win is what counts.

00:11:34.020 And it's preparation.

00:11:35.680 It's no different.

00:11:36.300 I used to wrestle at Penn State.

00:11:37.700 It's no different than what we were taught on the wrestling mat, except we do it with the weather in my company,

00:11:43.180 where it's just constant, constant looking at things.

00:11:46.660 So anyway, Joe, I hope that doesn't sound too popular.

00:11:49.740 No, it doesn't.

00:11:50.940 Thank you, because I know your record.

00:11:52.360 It doesn't.

00:11:53.320 Joe Bastardi, his book is called The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War.

00:11:59.060 Probably a really good book to bone up on because we are entering a new battle and a new era.

00:12:08.220 And it is this one is powerful.

00:12:10.340 This one, they say it is going to be done and we will be in a Green New Deal. 0.91

00:12:17.120 The weaponization of weather in the phony climate war.

00:12:20.120 Joe Bastardi, thank you so much, Joe.

00:12:25.940 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:12:29.060 James Kitchen now joins us.

00:12:39.300 He is a lawyer with Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, something that is relatively new.

00:12:46.020 It's about 10 years old and it's a voice for freedom in the courtrooms of Canada.

00:12:50.660 He is here to talk to us about Pastor James Coates, who is now, is he still in maximum security?

00:12:59.580 He is, yeah.

00:13:02.080 He's in the Remand Center in Edmonton.

00:13:04.360 And who goes to that prison usually?

00:13:08.420 Well, people who are awaiting their trial, right?

00:13:11.240 Which is what he's doing right now, currently.

00:13:14.680 That's why we refer to it as a remand center.

00:13:17.460 So, you know, I think there's a wide mix.

00:13:20.280 Certainly his cellmate was coming off of some sort of drug.

00:13:25.580 I think it may have been meth.

00:13:27.100 For the first day or two, he was in the cell with Coates.

00:13:30.140 So, I can imagine there's a wide range of guys in there.

00:13:35.020 And was he in solitary confinement for a while?

00:13:39.600 Well, I don't know if I'd quite call it that.

00:13:42.220 I mean, what was going on is that he wasn't allowed to have any visitors, so he couldn't see his wife.

00:13:45.620 He was only let out for 40 minutes a day.

00:13:48.660 And he wasn't allowed to have any, you know, normal social interaction with anybody except, of course, his cellmate.

00:13:53.400 The reason for that is, of course, the 14-day COVID, you know, isolation restrictions.

00:14:00.460 Prisoners coming in.

00:14:01.320 So, that's not, like, normally in the prison you are able to receive some visitors and you have some time out in a common area with some other prisoners.

00:14:09.320 He's not getting that because of the COVID restrictions, not because of any other reason.

00:14:14.080 So, I mean, solitary confinement probably isn't quite the word, but it's certainly taxing.

00:14:18.260 Don't we get those 40 minutes out and not be able to have any visitors.

00:14:22.600 So, what is happening?

00:14:24.200 Why was he arrested?

00:14:25.740 Tell us the story.

00:14:27.080 Sure.

00:14:27.640 So, his church is probably one of the few that not only believe they should all meet together at the same time on a morning,

00:14:38.520 but are going to do it even when the government says not to because, you know, they, first of all, I mean, they don't believe in the science behind it.

00:14:47.360 They don't think it's a justified violation of their rights because they don't think there's scientific evidence to back it up.

00:14:52.400 So, but, you know, it's also a violation of the religious beliefs, right, because they follow Scripture and Scripture says we are all to meet and meet in person, not over Zoom,

00:15:02.620 so that we can, you know, pray together, sing together, do baptism together, have the Lord's Supper together, etc., etc.

00:15:07.800 So, his church meets at its full, normal capacity, and he's the head pastor.

00:15:12.200 He presides over that service most Sundays.

00:15:14.920 So, because he was at that capacity and not at 15%, which is what it's supposed to be here in Alberta,

00:15:21.900 he did that for several months, and eventually he was arrested and released on a Sunday after a service.

00:15:30.000 Given an undertaking by the police, he refused to sign that undertaking.

00:15:32.760 So, he refused to agree with it, so there was no real undertaking.

00:15:36.120 However, the next Sunday, he held church again, and the police asked him to turn himself in,

00:15:40.880 and when he did, they charged him with breaching that undertaking, and that led immediately to a bail hearing.

00:15:46.580 Now, they also charged him with breaching public health measures, but that was kind of the key charge there,

00:15:52.880 because that's the only one that's criminal, and so that led to a bail hearing.

00:15:55.780 At the bail hearing, he was released, but he was released with a condition,

00:16:00.280 and the condition was that he stopped breaching the public health orders,

00:16:04.160 which he couldn't do, of course, because that would mean our church would have to be at 15%,

00:16:07.820 so because he wouldn't agree to the condition, he had to be held in jail.

00:16:12.420 Now, are they doing this to business people?

00:16:16.260 Well, they haven't put any business people in jail.

00:16:19.320 You know, I have a lot of experience with this now, but I can tell you there's a lot of tickets.

00:16:23.200 There's a lot of attempts by the local health authority to close down the businesses.

00:16:29.080 There's been some court applications and some court orders,

00:16:31.800 but they haven't actually arrested and tried to throw any business owners in jail yet.

00:16:38.900 So, you would think that business owners don't have the standing that a church would have.

00:16:46.720 I mean, I'm trying to remember what your Bill of Rights is called up in Canada.

00:16:52.800 It's not as strong as ours, but ours is worthless right now.

00:16:56.780 But you have protection for speech and for religion, right?

00:17:01.600 We do, yes.

00:17:02.620 It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms,

00:17:04.700 and it's the portion of our Constitution where our civil liberties are protected.

00:17:08.140 And Section 2, 2A protects freedom of religion,

00:17:11.320 and 2B protects freedom of expression, as you said.

00:17:14.340 But 2C protects freedom of peaceful assembly,

00:17:17.480 which is, of course, also being exercised on a Sunday morning by this church.

00:17:21.140 Yes, similarly to you, we have these protections.

00:17:24.380 They're not worth much unless the court has a will to enforce them,

00:17:28.040 unless the government has any sort of will to respect them.

00:17:30.580 They're not worth much, unfortunately.

00:17:32.220 So, that's the situation we face.

00:17:34.160 And yes, the pastor would have more rights than a business owner.

00:17:38.380 So, why was he singled out, do you think?

00:17:44.340 That's a good question.

00:17:47.480 You know, he's been doing this for a long time.

00:17:50.600 It's been three months that he has been, you know, just saying,

00:17:55.960 look, I serve Jesus, not the government,

00:17:58.600 and my church is going to continue to do church as we see is best for our people,

00:18:03.560 is the most loving thing that we can do for our people.

00:18:05.620 And has there been extreme breakouts among his flock?

00:18:10.720 There hasn't been any.

00:18:12.040 There hasn't been any.

00:18:12.820 I can only say that perhaps the government is,

00:18:16.020 after three months of him doing this,

00:18:18.220 has kind of just, you know, they said, enough's enough.

00:18:20.720 We've got to do something about this.

00:18:23.440 But wait, there hasn't been any outbreak of COVID in his congregation.

00:18:29.300 And while he was being arrested,

00:18:31.860 aren't the numbers going dramatically in the opposite direction?

00:18:35.480 I mean, shouldn't they be easing up on these restrictions?

00:18:38.820 Because the numbers were going way down, were they not?

00:18:42.820 Well, I mean, that's the elephant in the room.

00:18:44.900 Are the restrictions about politics,

00:18:46.580 or are they about safety and health and medicine and science and facts, right?

00:18:51.360 So, I mean, you know, this is a church of 400 members.

00:18:53.900 They've had no outbreaks of COVID.

00:18:54.980 Nobody has died of COVID.

00:18:56.500 But they have had somebody die to the lockdown measures.

00:18:59.220 They had somebody die prematurely

00:19:01.640 because he couldn't get his cancer treatment.

00:19:03.300 So, yeah, no, this isn't, you know,

00:19:07.200 this isn't ultimately, in my opinion,

00:19:09.460 about science, facts, medicine, evidence, safety.

00:19:12.700 It's not about anything, but politics, right?

00:19:14.980 So, because if we did actually just care about trying to keep people safe

00:19:20.820 or public health or what have you,

00:19:22.880 then if you had a church that was open full on for three months

00:19:26.180 and had no outbreaks and no issues,

00:19:28.320 you'd leave them alone.

00:19:29.960 Obviously, it's working.

00:19:30.860 Obviously, the government is wrong about the restrictions on churches.

00:19:34.140 Obviously, it's working.

00:19:35.340 And obviously, they're fine.

00:19:36.620 And maybe we should actually go worry about the nursing homes,

00:19:38.600 where the problem really is.

00:19:39.780 That would be a reasonable approach,

00:19:41.520 but that's not how politics works.

00:19:42.720 So, if it's politics,

00:19:44.220 do you have faith that the court is not tangled in politics?

00:19:49.200 Because here in America, it is.

00:19:51.300 Well, I mean, where is it not, right?

00:19:54.600 I mean, of course, my faith is not solid.

00:20:01.980 You know, I certainly hope and look to the courts

00:20:04.120 for them to think independently,

00:20:06.240 for them to fulfill their role,

00:20:08.360 to be an effective check on government power,

00:20:14.980 an effective balance on that,

00:20:16.480 to be a sober second thought

00:20:18.240 and to not merely accept everything the government says,

00:20:21.240 but to actually critically analyze whether or not it's true.

00:20:24.040 I would hope for that.

00:20:25.280 But so far in Canada,

00:20:26.720 I've seen very few instances of that happening.

00:20:29.020 Most of what I've seen is the courts

00:20:30.720 simply rubber stamping government measures.

00:20:34.900 So...

00:20:35.180 It's terrifying.

00:20:35.960 Yeah, it is.

00:20:37.060 So, what can people do to help?

00:20:42.080 Well, first of all,

00:20:42.940 did they...

00:20:43.540 The church, I assume, was going again yesterday.

00:20:46.240 He was still in prison.

00:20:48.100 They had another pastor,

00:20:49.740 and was he arrested or fined?

00:20:52.200 He wasn't.

00:20:53.200 Interestingly enough,

00:20:54.320 for only the second time in three months,

00:20:56.800 the public health inspectors did not show up.

00:21:00.140 And the local law enforcement...

00:21:02.420 Why?

00:21:02.620 ...were in the area,

00:21:04.100 but didn't even enter the parking lot.

00:21:05.760 So, that was interesting and surprising.

00:21:07.860 The church was certainly prepared for,

00:21:09.280 you know,

00:21:10.260 the hammer to come down.

00:21:11.980 And so,

00:21:12.720 it's hard to know what they're thinking,

00:21:14.300 but it says volumes that nobody showed up.

00:21:18.560 The church had a large number of people there.

00:21:21.320 In fact,

00:21:22.320 they had to turn people away,

00:21:24.660 just to be in accordance with their normal 100% fire code

00:21:28.540 for actual safety.

00:21:30.020 They had to turn some people away

00:21:31.300 who kind of stood around outside

00:21:32.780 and listened to an outdoor speaker to the service

00:21:34.800 because they didn't want to leave.

00:21:35.980 They were so happy to be there.

00:21:37.220 So, it was interesting.

00:21:40.560 So, what can people do to help?

00:21:44.020 Well, you know,

00:21:44.760 I think the most important thing people can do

00:21:47.080 is to stop self-censoring.

00:21:48.960 Now, obviously, some people agree with this.

00:21:50.620 They agree with the lockdowns.

00:21:52.180 But for the growing number of people who don't,

00:21:55.120 it's important,

00:21:56.300 on an individual level,

00:21:57.540 that each one of them

00:21:58.260 stand up and be counted

00:21:59.720 and speak out

00:22:00.480 and if they agree to disagree with it,

00:22:02.980 to say so, right?

00:22:05.060 And to take some action,

00:22:06.500 peaceful action, of course,

00:22:07.600 but actually say,

00:22:09.480 no, this is wrong

00:22:10.160 and I'm going to do something about it.

00:22:11.160 I'm going to let my politicians know

00:22:12.460 and I'm going to start talking to people I know

00:22:13.860 and we're going to start,

00:22:14.700 you know,

00:22:15.780 living life

00:22:16.560 and not believe in this stuff anymore

00:22:19.000 and we're going to say so.

00:22:20.440 That's the biggest thing, right?

00:22:21.640 We've got a lot of people

00:22:22.740 who disagree with it quietly.

00:22:24.060 They don't say anything

00:22:24.740 and then there's just a few people

00:22:25.800 like Pastor James Coates

00:22:27.240 and then the government

00:22:28.260 tries to single them out

00:22:29.360 and take them out.

00:22:30.480 But if all the people

00:22:31.480 who disagreed and opposed it

00:22:32.580 stood up and said,

00:22:33.360 we're done with this,

00:22:34.320 we're tired of being governed

00:22:36.080 and policed in this way,

00:22:37.220 we're tired of our rights

00:22:37.940 being taken away,

00:22:39.200 then this thing would start to crumble.

00:22:41.040 Well, I will tell you

00:22:42.060 that would be the easiest thing.

00:22:43.600 I know that Pastor Coates' wife 0.98

00:22:45.160 said over the weekend

00:22:46.200 that don't stand by

00:22:49.780 the 15% capacity limit.

00:22:51.740 She said,

00:22:52.600 you know,

00:22:53.880 even though my husband

00:22:54.620 is in prison for it,

00:22:55.840 the best thing you can do

00:22:56.800 is open your churches

00:22:58.000 and stand up

00:23:00.340 because they can't arrest all of us.

00:23:02.660 That's right.

00:23:03.480 I mean, she's not wrong.

00:23:05.320 That's just how it works, right?

00:23:07.900 It's still a democracy

00:23:09.040 that we live in, right?

00:23:11.220 Obviously,

00:23:12.000 it's starting to fall apart,

00:23:13.300 but it's not a totalitarian

00:23:15.880 dystopian nightmare yet.

00:23:17.160 We're on our way there,

00:23:18.080 but it's not there yet.

00:23:19.000 It could still be turned around

00:23:21.460 if enough people said,

00:23:22.420 no, we don't want it to go there,

00:23:24.120 so we're not going to let it go there.

00:23:26.040 We're not going to put up with this, right?

00:23:27.900 Yeah, she's right.

00:23:30.600 Thank you so much.

00:23:31.820 I really appreciate it.

00:23:33.280 James Kitchen,

00:23:34.420 lawyer for the Justice Center

00:23:36.120 for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:23:37.700 We'll follow this story

00:23:38.940 of Pastor James Coates,

00:23:40.240 and please keep us updated.

00:23:41.880 Thank you so much.

00:23:42.980 You're welcome.

00:23:43.780 Thank you.

00:23:44.080 This is the best

00:23:48.480 of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:23:51.920 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:23:54.180 The organizational psychologist

00:23:56.480 who helps companies

00:23:59.280 become better,

00:24:01.420 she has now committed herself

00:24:03.480 to combating the influence

00:24:04.640 of critical race theory

00:24:05.860 in America.

00:24:06.780 Her name is Dr. Carlin Borisenko,

00:24:09.900 good friend of the program.

00:24:11.540 Hi, Carlin.

00:24:13.040 How are you?

00:24:14.260 I'm doing well, Glenn.

00:24:15.580 Thanks for having me back.

00:24:16.700 So you made some headlines

00:24:19.180 over the weekend.

00:24:20.940 You are the one

00:24:22.280 who wrote the first post

00:24:24.540 about Coca-Cola.

00:24:25.880 Tell me how this happened

00:24:27.580 and what happened.

00:24:30.740 Yeah, so on Friday,

00:24:32.180 well, let me back up one day.

00:24:33.480 On Thursday,

00:24:34.300 Coca-Cola sent out an email

00:24:35.860 to its employees

00:24:36.820 about this diversity training program

00:24:40.220 that they were implementing

00:24:41.240 in which they said

00:24:42.340 a specific course

00:24:43.520 of programming

00:24:44.400 was required.

00:24:46.180 Now, the very next day,

00:24:47.360 I got an email

00:24:48.060 from a whistleblower

00:24:49.180 at the company

00:24:49.800 who had been talking

00:24:50.840 with their team members

00:24:52.020 and all of them

00:24:52.900 were incredibly uncomfortable

00:24:54.280 about this specific training

00:24:56.240 that told them

00:24:57.180 to try to be less white.

00:25:00.060 And so one of them

00:25:00.820 was very brave

00:25:01.600 and he has watched

00:25:02.900 my videos on YouTube

00:25:03.840 and reached out to me

00:25:04.960 and provided me evidence

00:25:06.140 of the training

00:25:06.740 and I posted it on Twitter.

00:25:09.060 Frankly, not really expecting

00:25:10.660 it to get the reception

00:25:11.960 that it did

00:25:12.560 because I feel like

00:25:13.560 I've been screaming

00:25:14.200 about these training programs

00:25:15.480 for the better part of a year.

00:25:17.020 But thankfully,

00:25:18.040 a lot of people took notice

00:25:19.460 and it's really gotten

00:25:20.560 a lot of attention.

00:25:22.100 Now, Coca-Cola has done

00:25:23.280 some really disturbing things.

00:25:25.200 They are all in

00:25:25.960 on the Great Reset

00:25:27.600 and the ESGs,

00:25:29.620 which people need to watch for.

00:25:31.760 ESG, environmental,

00:25:33.920 social,

00:25:34.680 and governmental standards.

00:25:36.200 So the social part

00:25:38.060 is like critical race.

00:25:39.720 It is social justice.

00:25:41.940 The environmental piece

00:25:43.680 is the Green New Deal.

00:25:47.240 And these companies

00:25:48.720 are resetting

00:25:49.460 and Coca-Cola

00:25:50.200 has been on the forefront of it.

00:25:52.960 If you look into

00:25:53.620 Coca-Cola's online presence

00:25:57.460 and what they say,

00:25:59.060 their bottling company

00:26:00.020 in Europe

00:26:00.740 actually justifies,

00:26:03.360 says,

00:26:03.800 in order for us

00:26:05.500 to justify

00:26:06.500 our business license,

00:26:08.760 we do X, Y, and Z.

00:26:11.380 And when did we have

00:26:13.780 to start justifying

00:26:14.760 a business license?

00:26:16.380 I mean,

00:26:16.660 you have to be

00:26:17.200 within the parameters,

00:26:18.000 but now

00:26:18.840 you have to do social work,

00:26:20.920 you have to do training

00:26:22.040 on critical race theory,

00:26:23.640 et cetera, et cetera,

00:26:24.360 to, quote,

00:26:25.940 justify your business license.

00:26:28.400 They're just ahead

00:26:29.280 of the rest

00:26:31.020 of these corporations,

00:26:32.120 I think.

00:26:33.440 Well, maybe,

00:26:34.320 but I actually think

00:26:35.260 that the questions

00:26:36.200 at play here

00:26:36.920 are much bigger

00:26:37.680 than Coca-Cola.

00:26:38.560 You know,

00:26:38.740 a lot of people

00:26:39.240 have been calling

00:26:39.780 for a boycott of Coca-Cola

00:26:41.120 since the news broke.

00:26:42.400 And while I think

00:26:43.140 that's all fine,

00:26:43.840 well, and good,

00:26:44.380 the reality is

00:26:45.300 that this training

00:26:46.200 exists on LinkedIn Learning.

00:26:48.440 And what that means

00:26:49.380 is that there are probably

00:26:50.680 thousands of other companies

00:26:52.520 out there

00:26:53.180 that are having employees

00:26:54.740 do this very same training.

00:26:57.340 And we already know

00:26:58.140 that there are employees

00:26:59.980 from some of the biggest

00:27:00.840 companies in the world

00:27:01.840 that are actually

00:27:02.540 taking this training

00:27:03.500 as we speak.

00:27:04.620 So for my money,

00:27:05.700 I think that the story

00:27:06.640 about Coke is interesting

00:27:08.060 just because it's

00:27:08.740 a really large company,

00:27:09.840 but the amount of companies

00:27:12.560 that are already doing this

00:27:13.680 and the amount of money

00:27:14.520 that Robin DiAngelo

00:27:15.720 is making convincing

00:27:17.480 white people

00:27:18.380 that they are racist

00:27:19.320 is the real story here.

00:27:21.560 So tell me

00:27:22.160 what she was teaching.

00:27:23.680 Coca-Cola came out

00:27:24.900 and said,

00:27:25.900 no, no, no, no,

00:27:26.780 that stuff on LinkedIn,

00:27:28.880 that wasn't the focus

00:27:32.080 of the training.

00:27:34.640 That's how they tried

00:27:35.540 to deny it

00:27:36.300 and say that,

00:27:37.200 no, no, no,

00:27:37.500 we weren't doing any of that.

00:27:38.660 What were they doing?

00:27:40.640 Well, I also think

00:27:41.740 it's worth noting

00:27:42.500 that you're quoting

00:27:43.640 Coca-Cola's first statement

00:27:45.060 that was procured

00:27:46.220 by the Blaze,

00:27:46.960 but they actually came out

00:27:47.880 with a second statement

00:27:48.860 a couple hours later

00:27:50.040 which says,

00:27:50.720 oh, no, no,

00:27:51.280 we weren't having

00:27:51.900 our employees

00:27:52.460 do this specific training

00:27:53.580 at all.

00:27:54.100 So they went from

00:27:54.700 confirmation to denial

00:27:55.960 within a couple hours.

00:27:58.320 But, I mean,

00:27:58.840 this is very typical

00:28:00.180 Robin DiAngelo training.

00:28:02.020 It's teaching white people 0.99

00:28:03.660 that they are

00:28:04.680 every negative thing

00:28:06.840 in the book.

00:28:07.500 And what it's actually doing

00:28:08.960 is Robin DiAngelo's

00:28:10.660 biggest grievances

00:28:11.500 are frankly

00:28:12.240 with people

00:28:12.920 who are presenting

00:28:13.860 a self-empowerment

00:28:15.340 that she feels

00:28:16.560 uncomfortable with.

00:28:17.500 It's when people,

00:28:18.340 you know,

00:28:18.940 aren't afraid

00:28:19.540 to express themselves,

00:28:20.860 aren't afraid

00:28:21.280 to stand up

00:28:21.860 for what they believe in.

00:28:22.720 It's a very specific

00:28:23.460 type of communication style

00:28:24.800 that she seems to have

00:28:25.740 the most grievances with

00:28:26.980 and she's labeling that

00:28:28.400 as all white people 0.57

00:28:29.820 which of course

00:28:30.860 is not the case

00:28:32.560 at all.

00:28:33.200 And in fact,

00:28:33.760 I'll tell you this,

00:28:34.860 the whistleblower

00:28:35.680 that reached out to me

00:28:36.700 is not white 0.90

00:28:38.420 in any way,

00:28:39.600 shape, or form

00:28:40.180 and they were still

00:28:41.100 uncomfortable

00:28:41.500 with this specific training.

00:28:43.440 So,

00:28:44.520 there are so many people

00:28:45.780 that I know,

00:28:46.540 I have friends

00:28:47.200 in so many different

00:28:49.160 businesses

00:28:49.620 in big companies

00:28:50.600 from,

00:28:51.260 you know,

00:28:52.360 from financial houses

00:28:54.280 to lawyers

00:28:55.800 to architects

00:28:57.280 to show people

00:28:59.580 and they are,

00:29:02.020 they're all saying

00:29:03.140 they're going

00:29:03.720 through these trainings

00:29:04.720 and I've asked them,

00:29:06.440 so what are you doing

00:29:07.600 about it?

00:29:08.640 We just shut up.

00:29:10.520 I said,

00:29:10.900 that's possibly

00:29:11.880 the worst thing

00:29:12.980 you can do.

00:29:13.960 And they're like,

00:29:14.900 I don't want to lose

00:29:15.800 my job, Glenn,

00:29:16.760 and I honestly don't know

00:29:18.420 who's on my side.

00:29:19.680 I know a couple of people

00:29:20.700 that we kind of look

00:29:21.560 at each other

00:29:22.040 during the meetings,

00:29:22.800 but I don't know

00:29:24.020 who's shutting their mouth

00:29:25.220 and who feels like

00:29:26.360 this is the right thing

00:29:27.400 to do.

00:29:28.300 And I'll lose my job.

00:29:30.300 What should people do?

00:29:32.700 Yeah,

00:29:33.220 I mean,

00:29:33.520 it is a sticky situation

00:29:34.780 to be in

00:29:35.340 because even if you ask

00:29:36.400 questions about these

00:29:37.400 trainings,

00:29:37.740 you are at very real risk

00:29:38.980 of losing your job.

00:29:39.940 But I'll tell you this,

00:29:41.100 what I'm trying to do

00:29:42.100 right now is actually

00:29:43.160 I'm working on

00:29:43.960 getting critical race theory

00:29:45.460 banned in state agencies

00:29:46.960 and in state contractors

00:29:48.180 at a state level

00:29:48.980 in New Hampshire.

00:29:49.760 There is actually

00:29:51.000 a bill right now.

00:29:52.400 I just testified for it

00:29:53.560 last week in the New Hampshire

00:29:54.520 House of Representatives

00:29:55.440 called HB 544,

00:29:57.320 which would ban state money

00:29:59.080 being spent on this

00:30:00.480 type of training.

00:30:01.280 And I actually know

00:30:02.080 from the whistleblowers

00:30:02.960 at Koch that when

00:30:04.280 President Trump issued

00:30:05.280 his executive order

00:30:06.260 that banned this

00:30:07.020 at a federal level,

00:30:08.240 Koch actually put the

00:30:09.160 pause on it for a minute

00:30:10.680 and they brought it back

00:30:11.720 after Biden rescinded

00:30:12.920 the executive order

00:30:14.000 on his first day.

00:30:15.220 So I think the very best

00:30:16.540 thing people can do

00:30:17.400 right now is reach out

00:30:18.460 to your state representatives.

00:30:20.000 Try to get this banned

00:30:21.140 on a state level

00:30:22.120 in state agencies

00:30:23.380 and in state government

00:30:24.260 contractors,

00:30:24.920 and that'll go a long way.

00:30:26.740 I think we also need

00:30:28.140 some sort of a lawyer

00:30:31.960 action group

00:30:33.040 that can give people

00:30:36.060 advice or represent people.

00:30:37.800 I mean, I can't believe

00:30:38.860 that if you object to a

00:30:41.700 you have to be less white, 0.98

00:30:44.760 I can't believe that

00:30:46.180 you're going to lose

00:30:47.420 in a court of law.

00:30:49.300 Well, it's funny

00:30:50.160 because I don't know

00:30:50.980 if you've been following

00:30:51.700 the story of Jody Shaw

00:30:53.340 who was a whistleblower

00:30:54.620 at Smith College,

00:30:55.620 but she just resigned

00:30:57.300 over like last week

00:30:58.700 in reference to

00:31:00.000 this same type of thing

00:31:00.980 happening at Smith College

00:31:02.180 and she filed complaints 0.98

00:31:03.740 with their HR offices

00:31:05.180 and what she was told

00:31:06.300 was civil rights laws

00:31:07.840 aren't written

00:31:08.440 to protect people

00:31:09.300 who look like you.

00:31:10.180 Wow, I'd love to see

00:31:15.320 that tested in court

00:31:18.140 because if that's true,

00:31:20.140 we're done as a nation.

00:31:22.260 Yeah, you mentioned

00:31:23.980 that the person

00:31:25.780 who reached out to you

00:31:26.420 was not white

00:31:27.180 with the Coca-Cola thing.

00:31:28.140 I think it's fascinating

00:31:29.240 and that like how important

00:31:30.900 in the turnaround

00:31:32.260 of this nonsense

00:31:33.320 is it for people

00:31:34.760 who are not white

00:31:36.180 to step up and say

00:31:37.680 this is wrong

00:31:38.880 because that's got to be

00:31:40.060 a crucial part

00:31:41.000 of the momentum

00:31:41.720 to turn this around

00:31:43.060 because it's all

00:31:43.620 white people talking about.

00:31:45.040 Right, exactly.

00:31:45.600 Martin Luther King

00:31:46.220 had a lot of white pastors

00:31:48.120 and a lot of people.

00:31:50.280 Yeah.

00:31:51.020 Yeah, I think it's critical

00:31:52.360 to the operation

00:31:53.200 because how this is usually framed

00:31:54.840 is that the reason

00:31:55.900 the white people speak up

00:31:57.060 is that they're scared

00:31:58.080 or they're fragile

00:31:59.020 or any of these things

00:32:00.020 and that's simply not the case.

00:32:01.540 So I think that everyone

00:32:02.800 who is,

00:32:03.340 this should not be

00:32:04.100 a black or white

00:32:05.020 or brown issue.

00:32:06.520 This shouldn't even be

00:32:07.400 a Democrat versus Republican issue

00:32:09.180 quite frankly.

00:32:10.060 If you are opposed

00:32:11.240 to racism,

00:32:11.960 you should be opposed

00:32:13.180 to things like this

00:32:14.020 and I have to tell you

00:32:14.820 some of the feedback

00:32:15.520 I've received

00:32:16.220 from black people

00:32:17.500 has been,

00:32:18.160 well, Carlin,

00:32:18.680 we were told

00:32:19.180 to be less black 1.00

00:32:20.100 in the workplace for years

00:32:21.320 and that's very valid

00:32:22.760 but that's also wrong

00:32:24.380 and racist.

00:32:25.280 That shouldn't be happening either

00:32:26.660 and if you're against

00:32:27.680 that type of racism

00:32:28.680 then you should be

00:32:29.460 against this as well.

00:32:31.040 So tell me,

00:32:32.060 see,

00:32:32.580 the problem with

00:32:33.280 critical race theory

00:32:34.240 to me

00:32:34.780 and this anti-racist thing

00:32:37.080 is its objective

00:32:39.260 is to employ

00:32:41.780 reverse racism.

00:32:43.100 The only way

00:32:44.140 to cure it

00:32:46.240 is to punish

00:32:48.360 those of another race

00:32:50.680 and to have

00:32:51.940 this reverse racism

00:32:53.540 which is

00:32:55.360 an incredible goal

00:32:57.220 to have.

00:32:57.780 So they admit

00:32:58.820 that that's what

00:32:59.560 they're trying to do.

00:33:01.100 Correct or not correct?

00:33:02.840 Yeah, that's exactly correct.

00:33:05.560 Yeah, the goal

00:33:06.720 of critical race theory

00:33:07.600 is that racism

00:33:08.500 exists everywhere

00:33:09.380 and it says

00:33:10.100 that white people 0.52

00:33:11.000 put these systems in place

00:33:12.240 in order to maintain power

00:33:13.560 and the only way

00:33:14.520 to get rid of racism

00:33:15.340 is to, you know,

00:33:16.780 bring the white people 0.93

00:33:18.060 down a level,

00:33:18.860 essentially.

00:33:19.460 So how do you argue

00:33:20.820 with somebody who says,

00:33:22.060 well, how can you disagree

00:33:23.520 that white people 0.52

00:33:24.580 wrote the rules

00:33:25.440 and this country

00:33:26.780 was, you know,

00:33:27.980 founded by a bunch

00:33:28.800 of white people?

00:33:30.440 Well, I would say,

00:33:31.480 yeah, it was founded

00:33:32.240 by a bunch of white people

00:33:33.320 but this country

00:33:34.020 has been all about progress

00:33:35.520 and creating a more

00:33:36.500 perfect union.

00:33:37.560 I mean, the founders

00:33:38.040 of this country

00:33:38.660 were not perfect men

00:33:39.980 but they were good men

00:33:41.040 and they were trying

00:33:41.880 to do the right thing

00:33:42.700 and even when

00:33:43.540 Thomas Jefferson

00:33:44.220 wrote the Declaration

00:33:45.000 of Independence,

00:33:45.640 it was very obvious

00:33:47.100 that he was uncomfortable

00:33:48.500 with slavery

00:33:49.300 and was trying

00:33:49.980 to build mechanisms

00:33:50.940 in to get slavery, 0.89

00:33:52.300 you know,

00:33:53.340 to be outlawed

00:33:54.260 in the future.

00:33:55.140 And so I think that,

00:33:56.080 you know,

00:33:56.360 we are not a perfect country

00:33:57.580 but we get better

00:33:58.340 and better and better

00:33:59.140 all the time

00:33:59.860 and these policies

00:34:00.940 are simply regressing

00:34:02.520 us back to a place

00:34:03.860 that was even before

00:34:05.600 the civil rights movement

00:34:06.580 in this country.

00:34:07.500 It makes absolutely

00:34:08.620 no sense

00:34:09.340 and I just don't think

00:34:10.200 the people

00:34:10.620 continuing them

00:34:12.140 have thought about

00:34:12.940 what the end goal is.

00:34:15.420 They don't take

00:34:16.380 into consideration

00:34:17.140 that when Robin DiAngelo

00:34:18.380 says all white people

00:34:19.520 are racist, 0.87

00:34:20.140 well, guess what?

00:34:20.640 She means you too

00:34:21.540 and she means the CEOs

00:34:22.860 of all these companies

00:34:23.720 and if the goal

00:34:24.960 is to destroy

00:34:25.880 white privilege,

00:34:27.140 well, that means

00:34:27.780 all of your institutions

00:34:28.940 are going to get

00:34:29.660 torn down in the process

00:34:31.260 and so what does that

00:34:32.800 really leave us with?

00:34:33.680 I don't think that

00:34:34.340 leaves us much

00:34:35.420 to build on.

00:34:36.380 There are very real

00:34:37.740 and valid questions

00:34:38.820 about race

00:34:39.680 in this country

00:34:40.500 but this is not

00:34:41.660 the way to fix it.

00:34:43.360 I can't believe

00:34:44.380 that you were ever

00:34:45.080 thinking that you were

00:34:48.780 you know,

00:34:49.680 liberal or progressive.

00:34:52.020 I can't believe it.

00:34:53.520 To hear you quote

00:34:54.320 Thomas Jefferson

00:34:55.000 and our founders,

00:34:55.960 I'm just so happy

00:34:57.680 and proud to be

00:34:59.560 your friend.

00:35:00.400 Proud to be your friend.

00:35:01.840 Well, thank you Glenn

00:35:02.800 and I have to tell you

00:35:03.600 it's been a little

00:35:04.520 over a year

00:35:05.120 since I went

00:35:05.640 to that Trump rally.

00:35:06.580 I do consider myself

00:35:08.000 a liberal

00:35:08.500 but I think that

00:35:09.820 I consider myself

00:35:10.780 a liberal

00:35:11.200 in the way that

00:35:12.020 you know,

00:35:12.400 I'm a free thinker.

00:35:13.300 I like listening.

00:35:13.960 Yeah, classical liberal

00:35:14.960 if you will.

00:35:15.460 I'm a classic liberal.

00:35:16.900 I refuse to modify it

00:35:18.080 with that term though

00:35:18.840 because I think

00:35:19.340 that the word liberal

00:35:20.140 gets a bad rap

00:35:21.420 and I want to take it back.

00:35:23.860 Yeah, good for you.

00:35:24.660 Good for you.

00:35:25.660 Carlin, thank you so much.

00:35:26.800 Carlin Borisenko.

00:35:27.880 Na, na, na, na.

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