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00:00:00.400 Could we have jammed more information?

00:00:03.260 Yes. Yes, we could have jammed more information in if Stu wouldn't have taken the first 10 minutes to...

00:00:12.000 Expose you? For your lies? Yeah, that is exactly what I did.

00:00:15.520 It's the most amazing story I've heard, you know, about me.

00:00:20.540 But we had so much to talk about today.

00:00:25.180 By the border and the Biden administration actually talking about saying that if you come into Texas and you're illegal, you have to stay in Texas?

00:00:36.260 What are we, Vegas all of a sudden? No, I don't think so.

00:00:41.060 Unconstitutional. We have the governor going to be on with us next week to further that conversation. 0.99

00:00:46.360 But we also looked into the latest on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.

00:00:52.060 It is... The facts are so clear now. I think this has kind of come apart at the wheels.

00:00:59.060 I just think that Joe Biden is going to resign because he's tired and sleepy or whatever.

00:01:05.580 But they can't let this be exposed in Congress because it's so very, very clear now on what is going on.

00:01:15.600 We also... Tomorrow is a podcast with John Dodson.

00:01:20.160 He is the ATF guy that blew the whistle on Fast and Furious.

00:01:24.740 He's only been able to speak out about that because of all of his government, you know, things he had to sign.

00:01:31.820 He wrote to us... We've been trying to get him for years.

00:01:35.580 He wrote to us and said, I have 161 more days before I'm free to speak.

00:01:42.820 I'll call you.

00:01:44.260 And this is the first week he's been able to speak.

00:01:47.380 His first interview.

00:01:48.940 What he tells you in tomorrow's podcast, and he was on live with me today,

00:01:54.100 what he tells you about what's going on in the government is truly terrifying.

00:01:58.060 He knows he was part of it.

00:02:01.400 FBI, ATF, and I think he was involved maybe with ICE as well.

00:02:07.860 All of this on today's podcast.

00:02:09.580 The full interview with him is tomorrow.

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00:03:30.660 Hello, Stu.

00:03:32.160 Glenn, how are you and your moisture-wicking underpants?

00:03:35.500 Oh, my gosh.

00:03:36.760 I just had to say them.

00:03:38.460 You know, I just had to say that.

00:03:39.860 I don't want to give away the brand, but, man, moisture-wicking underpants, it makes a difference.

00:03:47.860 It freaking does.

00:03:49.140 They're great.

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00:03:53.140 Okay.

00:03:53.460 Now that we have that out of the way, let me start with the latest.

00:03:59.660 I mean, should we start here?

00:04:02.020 Should we start with the latest on Joe Biden and his incredible lie that is now just completely falling apart?

00:04:10.940 Or should we start with the really great story coming out of Atlanta on the Attorney General?

00:04:19.800 We have more information, thanks to Andy Ngo, on that.

00:04:23.680 The ADL.

00:04:26.300 Or we could start about talking maybe with your net worth.

00:04:30.220 Pardon me?

00:04:31.580 Reading a little bit about your net worth.

00:04:33.220 Today, I've got some questions.

00:04:35.080 You have some.

00:04:35.760 Where were you reading about my net worth?

00:04:37.800 I went on a very reputable website and learned all about everything that you have, and I was a bit surprised.

00:04:43.780 Really?

00:04:44.320 Yeah.

00:04:44.720 Because, you know, you try to act like you're the everyman.

00:04:47.620 Yeah.

00:04:48.040 You know, that you can connect.

00:04:48.780 Well, that's me.

00:04:49.160 I mean, I think you, listening to me, I mean, you're like, no, he's half chick. 0.99

00:04:53.880 He goes to Broadway shows.

00:04:55.500 He's just like me.

00:04:56.800 Yeah.

00:04:57.160 Doesn't know anything about sports.

00:04:58.540 Doesn't know anything at all.

00:04:59.360 Although, I did watch the Chiefs last night.

00:05:01.700 Have no idea who won, because I went to bed at halftime.

00:05:04.620 Okay.

00:05:04.860 But it was good.

00:05:05.820 The Chiefs did not win.

00:05:07.420 They did not win.

00:05:08.080 They lost 21 to 20.

00:05:09.060 It was bad.

00:05:09.300 I hated that.

00:05:10.180 Yes.

00:05:10.660 Hated that.

00:05:11.080 There you go.

00:05:11.600 Okay.

00:05:11.920 Anyway.

00:05:12.760 All the receivers that caught every pass in the Super Bowl dropped every pass last night.

00:05:17.760 None of them can make any plays at all in game one of the regular season.

00:05:22.040 But in the Super Bowl, most amazing players of all time.

00:05:25.000 Let me tell you something.

00:05:25.600 That's not any frustration from an Eagles fan or anything.

00:05:27.120 I have to tell you, that last drive before halftime, it's great.

00:05:30.940 And then, when it gets down to about 29 seconds, 30 seconds every time, doesn't that seem like

00:05:37.480 it takes forever?

00:05:40.820 Yeah.

00:05:41.100 It's like you walk out 29 seconds.

00:05:43.140 You come back eight minutes later, and they're still playing.

00:05:45.140 You're like, what the hell?

00:05:45.980 And it's like 27 seconds now on the clock.

00:05:48.680 Yeah.

00:05:48.820 Lots of dramatic sports time is something guys usually complain about, which is why it came

00:05:52.780 to you as being an everyman.

00:05:54.280 Because you have the same complaints.

00:05:56.040 You're the one that changes all the baseball rules, so the game lasts now 12 minutes.

00:05:59.800 Yes, thank you for that.

00:06:01.400 I don't want to stay.

00:06:02.740 I don't like baseball, so can you make the game shorter?

00:06:05.960 I love baseball.

00:06:07.260 I'm sure you do.

00:06:07.820 Riddled with ADD every once in a while.

00:06:09.720 You forget you're at a game.

00:06:10.860 Like, nothing happens for so long, and you're like, hey, wow, I'm at a game.

00:06:14.340 Look.

00:06:15.240 Now, I want you to know, when you're listening to Glenn talk, and he's talking, oh, well,

00:06:18.640 Bidenomics isn't working.

00:06:20.420 Seems to be working for you, according to this website, that outlines everything you own.

00:06:28.240 Really?

00:06:28.800 Yes.

00:06:29.600 Okay.

00:06:30.120 You have a net worth of $370 million.

00:06:33.240 Wow.

00:06:34.520 Wow.

00:06:34.880 Yeah.

00:06:36.160 Wow.

00:06:36.600 You have an annual income of $50 million.

00:06:39.360 Holy.

00:06:40.680 $9 million in book royalties.

00:06:43.880 Every year?

00:06:44.620 Yes, every year.

00:06:45.460 Holy cow. 0.89

00:06:46.420 How about this?

00:06:47.320 You never explain this, because I met your dad before he passed.

00:06:50.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:50.780 Great guy.

00:06:51.420 Yeah.

00:06:52.620 Didn't seem wealthy to me.

00:06:54.360 Seemed like a guy who had worked his whole life as a baker.

00:06:57.720 Right, yeah.

00:06:58.500 Now, apparently, you inherited $10 million from him.

00:07:03.240 I did?

00:07:04.140 Yeah.

00:07:04.760 Wow.

00:07:05.240 Never said a word.

00:07:06.060 So, wait.

00:07:06.580 This little, I built this company sounds a little different after you hear that little

00:07:10.740 nugget.

00:07:11.200 Wow.

00:07:11.620 America.

00:07:11.860 Wow.

00:07:11.920 My dad left me $10 million.

00:07:14.280 $10 million.

00:07:14.980 Baking was good for him.

00:07:16.580 And, you know, when he was making those donuts, he's like, I'm going to leave my son $10 million.

00:07:21.780 Sold a lot of donuts.

00:07:22.740 Sold a lot of donuts.

00:07:23.120 My guess is looking at you, mostly to you.

00:07:25.140 Yeah.

00:07:25.440 That's my guess.

00:07:27.920 But again, I don't know how you'd come up with the money.

00:07:30.120 Right.

00:07:30.380 It's a little bit confusing.

00:07:31.320 So, this seems a little inaccurate.

00:07:34.060 Oh, I disagree with this.

00:07:35.460 It's on the internet.

00:07:36.360 Right.

00:07:36.640 Okay.

00:07:36.980 Okay.

00:07:37.280 All right.

00:07:37.660 Well, let me ask you.

00:07:38.300 We can fact check it with some of the other stuff they report here.

00:07:41.000 All right.

00:07:41.240 For example, how many yachts do you own?

00:07:45.000 And I want you to be honest about it because, no, I'm looking at the number.

00:07:48.200 So, you just.

00:07:49.460 How many yachts do I own?

00:07:51.220 I know what the number is.

00:07:52.460 Are you going to admit what the number is?

00:07:54.180 Well, I would say it's less than one.

00:07:57.880 Less than one.

00:07:58.480 Less than one.

00:07:59.200 Do you want to stick by that?

00:08:00.400 I do want to stick by that.

00:08:02.040 Incorrect.

00:08:02.440 You own five.

00:08:03.000 I own five yachts.

00:08:06.000 Is that one for each finger on one hand?

00:08:10.740 I mean.

00:08:11.580 You're the guy.

00:08:12.960 It's one for every work day of the week.

00:08:16.180 There you go.

00:08:16.780 Yeah.

00:08:17.180 Okay.

00:08:18.100 Now, you also have 200 luxury watches.

00:08:23.380 Really?

00:08:24.120 Only the one private jet, which does seem a little odd considering how much of the other

00:08:27.920 stuff that you have.

00:08:28.080 Well, I only need one plane to fly to one of my five yachts.

00:08:31.940 That's true.

00:08:33.020 That's a good point.

00:08:33.460 That's a good point.

00:08:33.900 Thank you.

00:08:34.320 Bitcoin, $8 million.

00:08:35.300 $8 million, which is pretty impressive.

00:08:37.460 I wish that was...

00:08:38.200 Now, let's talk a little bit about your home because I have been to your home.

00:08:41.180 Yes.

00:08:41.540 It's a very nice home.

00:08:42.320 Yeah.

00:08:42.840 However, I apparently haven't taken a full tour because you recently spent $1.9 million

00:08:51.280 to build a custom car garage on the property.

00:08:54.080 Wow.

00:08:54.600 Yeah.

00:08:55.220 Wow.

00:08:55.680 That sounds pretty nice.

00:08:56.940 It's weird because you can't see it.

00:08:59.620 You come to my house.

00:09:00.940 It's so well built.

00:09:02.180 It blends in.

00:09:04.140 Okay.

00:09:04.340 It looks like a backyard.

00:09:05.900 You can't even see it.

00:09:07.340 Now, let me ask you this.

00:09:08.400 Yeah.

00:09:08.560 Is it maybe because I've been to your home in Texas?

00:09:11.300 Yes.

00:09:11.680 And I didn't go to your brand new $36 million 15-bedroom mansion in Florida?

00:09:19.060 Is that what the problem is?

00:09:20.580 Did I go to the wrong...

00:09:21.340 Wow.

00:09:21.480 They found out about my home.

00:09:23.660 Well, as the website...

00:09:25.060 Hang on.

00:09:25.120 So, wait, wait, wait.

00:09:26.580 So, I have a...

00:09:27.100 How much did I pay for this?

00:09:28.260 $36 million.

00:09:29.140 I was 34.

00:09:30.260 Oh, okay.

00:09:30.680 So, they're way off.

00:09:31.420 Yeah.

00:09:31.760 So, I've got a mansion.

00:09:33.180 15 bedrooms in Florida.

00:09:34.700 15 bedrooms.

00:09:35.520 And you know how, like, normally, I would say, okay...

00:09:37.240 You know what?

00:09:37.700 I have to tell you.

00:09:38.240 This is a little unfair because 15 bedrooms, only 10 bedrooms, five of them are occupied

00:09:43.820 by the yachts.

00:09:45.080 You keep them in a bedroom.

00:09:46.180 I keep it in a very large house.

00:09:48.060 Very large bedrooms.

00:09:48.900 Very large.

00:09:49.480 This would make sense as I read more detail because you could say, okay, well, they're

00:09:52.420 just making up numbers.

00:09:53.780 Right.

00:09:54.180 They're just, you know, AI generating text to say...

00:09:57.080 No, it doesn't sound like that at all.

00:09:58.640 No.

00:09:59.140 And I will say, it doesn't sound like that because they give very specific details.

00:10:02.680 For example, that property that you just bought for $36 million earlier belonged to

00:10:07.600 Clint Eastwood.

00:10:08.540 Oh, we are like this.

00:10:10.840 Like this.

00:10:11.800 You've always said you wanted to meet him.

00:10:13.400 Yeah, and I was hiding that.

00:10:13.620 And I didn't know you bought his house.

00:10:15.680 I was hiding...

00:10:16.340 You know, he was surprised that he had a house in...

00:10:21.320 But he's getting older now.

00:10:23.380 So, it was worth a lot more.

00:10:25.060 But I, you know, I ripped you.

00:10:26.460 You nailed him on that one.

00:10:27.440 Yeah, I nailed him on that one.

00:10:28.120 And by the way, think about this next time you hear Glenn back talking about how much

00:10:31.740 the price of eggs have gone up, for example.

00:10:33.340 Right.

00:10:33.520 Let me just give you some details about your home.

00:10:35.240 You would not tell the people.

00:10:36.360 Okay.

00:10:36.580 You wouldn't tell the people this.

00:10:37.820 Right.

00:10:38.140 Okay.

00:10:38.400 If I just didn't surprise you on the air with this, people would never get this information.

00:10:41.500 Right.

00:10:41.680 And you don't know this because you've never seen this.

00:10:43.820 I've never seen it, but I'm reading the reporting on this.

00:10:46.800 And you're one of my best friends.

00:10:47.480 I'm reading the reporting on this.

00:10:48.920 Right.

00:10:49.100 Okay.

00:10:49.540 All right.

00:10:50.160 Okay.

00:10:51.120 So, I bought Clint Eastwood's home.

00:10:52.900 Apparently, there are some amenities in this mansion.

00:10:54.520 Amenities.

00:10:55.080 Okay.

00:10:55.140 I want to go over some of these.

00:10:56.460 Yes.

00:10:56.860 Number one, a dance floor.

00:11:00.160 Well, why would you not tell me?

00:11:02.960 You know me in dancing.

00:11:04.940 Okay.

00:11:05.440 Yeah.

00:11:05.720 I am a dancer.

00:11:08.380 You are?

00:11:08.660 And I've, yeah.

00:11:09.920 And I can't go-

00:11:10.140 Could you go into more depth on that other than just saying the word again?

00:11:12.700 What?

00:11:13.080 Could you go into more detail?

00:11:14.460 You just said the word.

00:11:15.320 You repeated the word dance.

00:11:16.740 Yeah, no.

00:11:17.880 Uh-huh.

00:11:18.120 Dance is my life.

00:11:19.460 Okay.

00:11:19.920 Okay.

00:11:20.180 Not a lot of people know this.

00:11:21.680 Right.

00:11:21.960 You know, like a lot of people don't know I'm a painter.

00:11:24.600 That's true.

00:11:25.080 They don't mention the painting at all.

00:11:26.300 I'm a better dancer than I am a painter.

00:11:28.260 And I know that's not saying a lot, but that's why I have a dance floor.

00:11:32.660 Let me ask you this.

00:11:33.500 How many outdoor pools do you need?

00:11:36.240 How many?

00:11:36.860 I would say two is enough.

00:11:38.680 Not for Glenn.

00:11:39.420 Well, I think five.

00:11:39.980 I think five.

00:11:40.600 No, you only have three.

00:11:41.380 I only have three.

00:11:42.180 I only have three.

00:11:42.240 I have three outdoor pools.

00:11:43.820 Well, you do have an indoor plunge pool.

00:11:46.060 Right.

00:11:46.420 Which I guess is-

00:11:47.220 Well, that's when Tony Robbins comes over and yeah, he just likes to plunge in the pool.

00:11:51.040 Now, you also have a tennis court, a bowling alley, two guest houses.

00:11:56.080 This one's kind of true.

00:11:57.260 Doomsday bunker.

00:11:58.960 That one is actually kind of true.

00:12:01.180 That is the first thing on this that is actually kind of true.

00:12:04.520 Look, I don't want to call you out on the air.

00:12:07.240 Okay.

00:12:07.660 Okay.

00:12:07.960 You don't want to.

00:12:08.540 Even though I just did.

00:12:09.640 But I felt it was necessary, especially to like, let's say some of our, we have a big

00:12:14.600 audience in Utah, for example.

00:12:15.820 Right.

00:12:16.420 Yeah.

00:12:16.960 They're going to be very disappointed in you.

00:12:18.940 Oh boy. 0.95

00:12:19.200 Number one, you're a recovering alcoholic. 0.99

00:12:21.180 Number two, you're a Mormon. 0.91

00:12:22.480 Right.

00:12:22.760 Yet you have a wine cellar with 3,000 bottles of wine.

00:12:26.200 That is inappropriate.

00:12:27.560 Thank God they didn't talk about the hard liquor.

00:12:30.580 I have a wine cellar.

00:12:32.020 Yes.

00:12:32.380 That's weird.

00:12:33.180 What about why you live in the Dallas area?

00:12:36.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.200 Why do you have 15 houses in Houston?

00:12:38.720 I don't.

00:12:39.120 Well, I want to know why.

00:12:39.840 Because I sometimes like never go to Houston.

00:12:44.900 Well, that's true.

00:12:45.880 You're not there that often.

00:12:47.160 No.

00:12:47.400 But 15 homes seems like a lot.

00:12:50.020 But that could be part of your real estate empire, which is also detailed.

00:12:52.460 I have five yachts for each work day, okay?

00:12:57.880 I'm trying to build up to 31 houses plus one for leap years so I can live in a different

00:13:06.080 house every day of the month.

00:13:08.700 Oh.

00:13:09.180 I think that's reasonable.

00:13:10.960 It does sound reasonable for you.

00:13:12.720 Right.

00:13:13.120 As the type of person you have.

00:13:14.580 They all have dance floors.

00:13:17.400 Not all of them have three pools.

00:13:18.880 Some of them have eight.

00:13:19.920 Some of them have eight.

00:13:20.500 But.

00:13:21.540 What about your luxury cars?

00:13:24.180 20 of them.

00:13:24.940 I have 20 luxury cars?

00:13:26.040 Yes.

00:13:26.360 Including a Lamborghini.

00:13:27.900 Okay.

00:13:28.560 Now, wait a minute.

00:13:29.640 I do own cars.

00:13:31.080 You have some nice cars.

00:13:31.900 I am a freak on cars, on old cars.

00:13:34.600 How many cars do I have?

00:13:36.360 You have 20, according to this report.

00:13:37.920 Okay.

00:13:38.080 Let's see if they can get any of them right.

00:13:41.180 Okay.

00:13:41.380 Mercedes-Benz S-Class?

00:13:43.440 No.

00:13:44.060 BMW 5 Series?

00:13:45.120 No.

00:13:45.940 Lamborghini Urus?

00:13:47.000 No.

00:13:48.080 Or was it Urus?

00:13:48.740 Have you looked at me?

00:13:49.620 I can't fit in a Lamborghini.

00:13:51.340 No.

00:13:51.500 It's not good.

00:13:52.300 You're not Lamborghini friendly.

00:13:53.380 Right.

00:13:53.800 No.

00:13:54.520 Lexus LS?

00:13:55.820 No.

00:13:56.480 Cadillac CT6?

00:13:57.800 No.

00:13:58.840 Porsche Cayman?

00:13:59.760 No.

00:14:00.300 No.

00:14:01.040 A Jaguar XJ?

00:14:02.460 No.

00:14:03.060 Tesla Model S?

00:14:04.160 No.

00:14:04.640 Lincoln Continental?

00:14:05.780 No.

00:14:06.120 How about a McLaren GT?

00:14:07.900 No.

00:14:08.360 No.

00:14:11.640 This is an accurate report.

00:14:13.880 It's pretty good.

00:14:14.860 And it gives you a kind of net worth over the years, too, which I thought was interesting.

00:14:18.160 Yeah.

00:14:18.740 Net worth in 1990 was $910,000.

00:14:22.420 Really?

00:14:22.920 Yeah.

00:14:23.380 You knew me in, well...

00:14:25.180 No, I didn't know you yet.

00:14:26.080 Yeah.

00:14:26.440 1995, you know, 97.

00:14:28.900 When did we meet?

00:14:30.080 97?

00:14:30.760 Yeah.

00:14:30.940 How much money did I have, Stu?

00:14:32.200 Did not...

00:14:32.640 I mean, judging by your apartment, not $910,000.

00:14:36.220 I don't think I had $910,000.

00:14:40.160 But you nailed that up to $15 million by 2000.

00:14:43.700 Right.

00:14:43.980 $180 million by 2010.

00:14:45.700 $340 million as of last year.

00:14:47.680 And then you just added an extra $30 million on for this year.

00:14:50.100 So congratulations.

00:14:50.920 Thank you very much.

00:14:51.720 Look, I'm proud of you.

00:14:53.340 I'm proud of you.

00:14:54.080 I would like...

00:14:54.260 You know, that's what happens, honestly, when you live a clean life, you know?

00:15:00.340 Mm-hmm.

00:15:00.580 When you live a clean life, you know, then you can have the five yachts, so...

00:15:06.260 Yeah.

00:15:07.340 Clean life is an interesting point, because this report goes into some of your troubles with

00:15:15.700 the law.

00:15:16.320 I didn't know I had troubles with it.

00:15:17.060 I didn't want to bring this part up.

00:15:17.760 I wasn't going to bring this up, because I think it is...

00:15:20.640 I think it's...

00:15:21.700 I think there was a problem here.

00:15:23.920 Okay.

00:15:24.240 And I didn't...

00:15:24.920 You know, I've never seen this reported before.

00:15:26.760 I didn't hear about this.

00:15:27.680 It's not about that girl I killed.

00:15:29.020 No.

00:15:29.380 No.

00:15:29.580 That was an old story.

00:15:30.520 That was an old story.

00:15:31.160 That was another story.

00:15:31.920 That's right.

00:15:32.500 Okay.

00:15:32.700 That they made up.

00:15:33.440 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 This is per Forbes, by the way.

00:15:36.040 You're one of the richest media executives in the United States.

00:15:39.000 Really?

00:15:39.320 However...

00:15:39.800 Per Forbes.

00:15:40.720 This is not from Forbes, because there's no way Forbes would...

00:15:46.520 I mean, none of that is right.

00:15:49.280 No.

00:15:49.800 Well, some would say.

00:15:51.000 Well, what do you mean some would say?

00:15:53.040 Well, some would say.

00:15:53.800 I'm just saying.

00:15:55.020 It's right here.

00:15:56.160 I'm saying it.

00:15:57.800 Millions of people are hearing it.

00:15:59.320 Right.

00:15:59.740 You know, America has heard it.

00:16:01.540 The doomsday bunker is the closest thing to right.

00:16:04.880 In here, and I'm trying to find where it says.

00:16:06.860 It did say there was a bit of an issue with you and a bar fight.

00:16:10.860 Do you want to further comment before I reveal the...

00:16:14.040 A bar fight?

00:16:15.400 Yes.

00:16:16.240 With what's...

00:16:16.940 Yeah.

00:16:17.200 You had a bar fight.

00:16:18.260 Yeah.

00:16:18.440 I'll just lay this out for the audience so they know.

00:16:20.540 You had a bar fight with a famous CNN anchor.

00:16:24.140 Really?

00:16:24.520 Yes.

00:16:25.040 You had...

00:16:25.380 Now, of course, people don't know about this because you settled out of court.

00:16:28.380 Huh.

00:16:28.820 How much did I settle for?

00:16:32.040 You settled out of court for $600,000.

00:16:35.640 $600,000.

00:16:36.440 $600,000.

00:16:36.460 $600,000.

00:16:36.480 $600,000 million.

00:16:38.200 $600,000 million.

00:16:39.600 $600,000 million, according to this report.

00:16:41.920 $600,000 million?

00:16:43.700 $600,000 million.

00:16:45.300 Really?

00:16:45.560 Which is...

00:16:46.000 If I'm doing the math right, it's $600 billion.

00:16:49.360 $600...

00:16:49.720 Which is a...

00:16:50.300 No.

00:16:50.960 It's a lot.

00:16:51.600 I had to sell...

00:16:52.480 It's a big settlement.

00:16:52.740 I had to sell my other seven yachts to pay for it.

00:16:55.880 But $600,000 million.

00:16:59.560 $600,000 million.

00:17:01.340 $600,000 million.

00:17:02.180 It was?

00:17:02.540 It was worth it.

00:17:03.320 I mean, depending on who you punched, it might have been worth it.

00:17:05.080 Who was?

00:17:05.620 Honestly.

00:17:06.120 It was just a famous anchor on CNN.

00:17:07.860 Oh, yeah.

00:17:08.500 Well, you wouldn't pay $600,000 million to punch Brian Stelter in the face?

00:17:14.640 No.

00:17:15.180 He...

00:17:15.500 He's not a CNN anchor, as you know.

00:17:17.760 He was let go.

00:17:19.360 Well, I'm drunk.

00:17:20.560 $600,000 million.

00:17:21.660 The court, actually...

00:17:22.840 Settled outside the court.

00:17:24.520 Beck paid $600,000 million in damages.

00:17:27.060 Wow.

00:17:27.540 I just wish you'd be honest with the audience.

00:17:29.120 Yeah.

00:17:29.480 Like, I know these things have happened in your life.

00:17:32.140 I mean, there's been multiple biographies that are actually less accurate about your life

00:17:35.900 than this one.

00:17:36.680 There's no...

00:17:37.220 There's nothing accurate in that at all.

00:17:39.940 Not one...

00:17:40.100 That's what I'm commenting on, the books that were written about you.

00:17:42.380 They were also...

00:17:43.200 There's not one thing that was accurate in those, either.

00:17:45.760 But I will say, this is an interesting revelation.

00:17:49.060 Well...

00:17:49.500 And I hope the people now can see, you know, that you can't relate to them.

00:17:53.720 And at any point, you should get in a bar fight with Glenn, because he's going to pay

00:17:57.080 you a lot of money in a settlement.

00:17:58.800 $600 billion coming your life.

00:18:00.300 Well, I wouldn't do it.

00:18:00.420 I wouldn't...

00:18:00.780 Honestly, I don't recommend it.

00:18:02.440 It's not worth the money.

00:18:03.920 I mean, look at me.

00:18:04.980 Okay?

00:18:05.280 Mm-hmm.

00:18:05.680 Not only am I a dancer, a passionate dancer...

00:18:10.220 Yes.

00:18:10.940 ...but me in a bar fight?

00:18:12.740 Oh, yeah.

00:18:13.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:18:14.500 It's like a third-grade girl fight. 0.59

00:18:16.680 I mean, you're in.

00:18:17.600 You are in with a girl fighter. 1.00

00:18:20.460 You are.

00:18:20.840 It's like someone throwing jello at you from across the room.

00:18:23.380 That's basically how it would feel if you were hit by Glenn.

00:18:26.500 I'd actually like to try that.

00:18:30.040 You'd try to be catching it here.

00:18:31.300 Would you, yeah, see if you could throw some jello my way. 1.00

00:18:34.340 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:18:38.720 John Dodson, welcome to the program, sir.

00:18:40.840 How are you?

00:18:41.600 I'm fine, sir.

00:18:42.220 How are you?

00:18:42.760 I'm good.

00:18:43.220 I had a great conversation with you.

00:18:45.640 You scare me a little bit because of what you know and what you see happening.

00:18:52.520 But I wanted to ask you a couple of things.

00:18:56.060 Yes, sir.

00:18:56.500 First of all, this story that is coming out of Matt Gaetz's office yesterday, he accused

00:19:05.240 the ATF of retaliating against a Florida congressional whistleblower.

00:19:10.140 In a letter to the ATF director, Steve Dietl, is it Dietlbach?

00:19:15.620 Gates claimed that ATF agents once again aggressively targeted and harassed one

00:19:21.620 of my constituent federal firearms licensees, Chris Smith of the Gulf Coast Gun.

00:19:28.800 Smith had testified in front of Congress alleging ATF mistreatment in June, and it's for this

00:19:35.320 reason he has been harassed by ATF agents again.

00:19:38.460 After Chris's testimony at my field hearing on the weaponization of the Bureau of Alcohol,

00:19:43.680 Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, ATF agents showed up at his business unprompted to inspect

00:19:49.420 a manufacturing license that he had held for only six months.

00:19:54.300 Chris had not yet used the license.

00:19:57.540 The agents had nothing to inspect, and they had no choice but to leave.

00:20:02.720 The ATF had previously audited Chris's retail license within the last year.

00:20:07.260 It follows, given the ATF is forbidden from auditing the same business twice in one year,

00:20:11.380 the only excuse the ATF had to harass Chris further was an audit of a new unused manufacturing license.

00:20:19.200 The local ATF agent admitted that he had no records that Chris was using the license,

00:20:25.720 but nevertheless, he received a direct order to audit Chris's new license.

00:20:32.160 In addition to this violation of federal law, the ATF showed up uninvited to the home of

00:20:38.900 Christian O'Brien, Chris's store manager, without making an appointment, as he doesn't

00:20:44.360 have business hours.

00:20:45.240 He wrote, Christian does not sell any firearms or perform any business on behalf of Gulf Coast

00:20:51.820 gun.

00:20:52.800 Christian was not at home at the time, so the agents called him and told him, don't worry,

00:20:57.200 we know where you work.

00:21:01.020 What is this?

00:21:04.400 Well, it kind of, if you go back to what we talked about yesterday, sir, it's this concept

00:21:10.100 of total war, all right?

00:21:11.640 If you believe that guns are evil, that gun owners are evil, and thereby gun dealers are

00:21:18.020 evil, then you go after them every way that you can.

00:21:20.220 You go after them through enforcement, and you go after them through regulatory, which is

00:21:24.520 where these license inspections come in.

00:21:27.200 Now, you have to understand, ATF, our house is split, or I'm no longer with ATF, I'm retired

00:21:32.420 and currently unemployed, but ATF is split into two houses.

00:21:36.280 So, you have enforcement, which are agents, and then what we call IOI, the industry operations

00:21:40.580 investigators.

00:21:41.700 They're the ones that do audits of licenses and things like that.

00:21:45.220 Now, I can tell you that in the past two years, the amount of audit and revocation hearings

00:21:51.400 has grown exponentially.

00:21:52.980 Now, in this day and time, things that would normally just be a warning conference or a

00:22:00.000 letter to a dealer about, you know, your books aren't being managed according to the

00:22:05.120 law, according to the regulations, so you need to get this in line.

00:22:08.600 They are moving, rather, they're foregoing all those initial steps and going straight

00:22:12.480 to revocation hearings.

00:22:13.660 And this is directly, you know, I believe, related to, you know, orders coming from, you

00:22:21.500 know, on top, from political machines, from an agenda from the White House.

00:22:25.120 So, it's part of this concept of enforce the law on everyone that we can, or everyone that

00:22:30.180 we want to, that we deem enemy, and then enforce regulations to, you know, the fullest extent,

00:22:36.640 create new regulations, create hardships, put people out of business.

00:22:39.500 If we put the FFLs out of business, then no one's buying more guns.

00:22:44.540 This is insidious.

00:22:45.880 What should that agent have done?

00:22:49.420 Well, again, they're, you know, they're under oath, just like we are.

00:22:54.600 And your oath is to this nation and to the people of it to protect and defend the Constitution.

00:23:00.320 And like it or not, the Second Amendment is part of our Constitution.

00:23:03.600 You need to protect and defend it.

00:23:05.440 You can say no.

00:23:06.480 You can stand up and say no.

00:23:08.620 And I've done it.

00:23:10.260 And I know others that have done it.

00:23:12.140 And, you know, we've all paid prices for it, some far, far greater than I.

00:23:16.520 But it's what you need to do.

00:23:19.040 Some things are worth too much than to just, you know, go along to get along.

00:23:25.440 You paid a really heavy price.

00:23:28.060 You have been afraid of your country for the first time.

00:23:36.340 You've mourned for the loss of what you believe is an honest institution and no longer believe that anymore.

00:23:45.200 Make the case to people who are in your former situation that it's worth it.

00:23:51.560 Well, you know, and we touched on this briefly yesterday.

00:23:57.420 I was at a point where I had trouble separating my country from my government.

00:24:03.200 And now I'm able to do that again.

00:24:05.740 I love my country.

00:24:07.040 I love the things that my country was founded on, the things that it represents, the hope, the freedom.

00:24:13.680 You know, those things that now will get me on a terrorist watch list for saying, you know, when you talk about oaths and constitutions.

00:24:19.820 My government, however, has gone afoul.

00:24:21.940 It is no longer there to serve the American people.

00:24:24.580 It is no longer a government, you know, for the people, of the people, and by the people.

00:24:29.220 It's there strictly to exist itself, to protect its own power.

00:24:33.300 Power protects power.

00:24:34.860 And that's what it's involved in.

00:24:36.160 And when someone gets the reins of that government and they decide they believe that something is bad, be it guns, be it whatever, then they use the whole force of the government to go after that.

00:24:49.340 And that's the most terrifying thing because once, you know, when you know what your government is capable of doing and then you know what they're willing to do, it becomes a very strange world that you live in and a very terrifying one.

00:25:01.340 Say that again, say that, say that again, because you, you laid this out so eloquently in the podcast, and I urge you to listen to this podcast.

00:25:09.400 You just said what your government is capable of doing and what your government is willing to do.

00:25:19.420 What does that mean?

00:25:20.100 Well, when you understand the capabilities that they have to intrude on in your life, to, you know, go up on your phones, in your computers, to surveil you, to dig up any dirt that you might have in the closet, or manufacture stuff if you don't have any or what you have isn't significant enough.

00:25:42.120 The tricks and the certidious efforts that they can go through, that they're capable of, and then you find out what they're willing to use those for, to protect themselves and protect the power and protect driving the agenda, it becomes a terrifying world.

00:25:58.920 And most people don't concern themselves with this.

00:26:00.840 They don't think about it because it doesn't happen to them.

00:26:02.980 And it's like, well, it hasn't affected me or what have you.

00:26:06.520 But then you never know when it does.

00:26:08.380 You never know when that agenda is going to change.

00:26:10.520 You don't know when that focus or that spotlight is going to be put on you.

00:26:14.300 And then everything that you've been doing is suddenly illegal or, you know, against regulations.

00:26:20.340 And then the full force of the federal government, that that you know and much that you don't, is focused to attack you.

00:26:28.660 It's a terrifying concept.

00:26:30.740 So when you blew the whistle, Eric Holder was subpoenaed to go to Congress and testify about facts.

00:26:40.520 Fast and Furious.

00:26:42.260 And he knew all about it, right?

00:26:45.020 He would have had to answer questions that would have made him perjure himself.

00:26:48.620 Or what would the consequences be if he would have admitted to what you guys were doing?

00:26:53.560 Right.

00:26:55.400 So he was subpoenaed to not only testify, but DOJ, and as the attorney general at the time, he's in charge of DOJ, was subpoenaed for any documents or several documents that related to the Fast and Furious investigation, most of which DOJ either refused to turn over or redacted so heavily.

00:27:10.580 There's a famous picture of Chairman Issa at the time, who was chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, holding up pages of documents that were just completely blacked out, totally redacted.

00:27:21.520 And so Eric Holder was found in contempt because he would not oblige that subpoena.

00:27:26.700 He wouldn't honor the subpoena issued by Congress.

00:27:28.800 And what I think of, you know, the majority of Americans don't understand is in our checks and balances system, you think, I mean, I know when I get a subpoena, I know what happens to me if I don't abide by it, you know, what a federal judge will do for me and what my agency will do.

00:27:43.380 You know, I'll get fired if I don't honor a subpoena.

00:27:45.380 And for him not to do that and to be found in contempt of Congress, I think it was the first time ever that a sitting attorney general had been found in contempt.

00:27:54.460 Well, all Congress can do is forward that contempt citation to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia for prosecution.

00:28:01.660 Every U.S. attorney in the United States is a presidential appointee.

00:28:06.300 So who was president at the time, obviously, and then who appointed him.

00:28:10.500 So no prosecution was ever sought.

00:28:12.560 But now, as you mentioned in your lead up coming into this, that has changed significantly.

00:28:18.660 We are now prosecuting these people that were held in contempt.

00:28:22.820 We're prosecuting those on one side of the political spectrum.

00:28:26.260 Correct.

00:28:27.460 Correct.

00:28:28.480 So if you think it can't happen to you, you know, I would imagine that all of these lawyers that are now facing jail time in Georgia figured, well, attorney, I'm doing my job.

00:28:39.920 I mean, as Alan Dershowitz said in last week's podcast, this is the these are the same things that we did when I was fighting for the 2000 election with Al Gore.

00:28:51.140 He's like same documents.

00:28:52.940 One of them is written by the same guy.

00:28:55.240 And they're using that as a conspiracy charge.

00:28:57.980 He said, I mean, this is it's unreasonable.

00:29:00.920 Oh, it's more than unreasonable.

00:29:03.700 It's nefarious is what it is.

00:29:05.080 I mean, it's it's literally using the, you know, our system of justice, the United States system of justice to target political opponents and political appointees.

00:29:14.040 It's it's furthering an agenda.

00:29:16.560 We are so close to having, you know, a secret political police state that's going on in this country.

00:29:23.700 And most people, like I say, don't see it until it affects them.

00:29:27.600 And I forget exactly how it goes.

00:29:29.740 But what's that famous quote, you know, during World War Two, when they came for this group, I said nothing.

00:29:33.820 When they came for this group, I said nothing.

00:29:35.300 But when they came for me, there was no one left to say anything.

00:29:38.260 That's right.

00:29:39.260 Thank you so much.

00:29:40.460 I really I can't thank you enough for everything that you have done for the country and everything that you continue to do and and the risk that you and your family have taken.

00:29:49.220 Appreciate it.

00:29:49.840 Thank your wife.

00:29:51.180 I just want to say, oh, yeah, trust me, I thank my wife every day.

00:29:54.280 She's the reason I'm still here.

00:29:55.540 Yeah.

00:29:57.220 So there's more than me.

00:29:59.100 There were other whistleblowers that have suffered as well.

00:30:02.580 And some have come through it and some unfortunately haven't.

00:30:06.660 And it's but I encourage those out there in the know.

00:30:09.520 Like you can you can stand up, make a decision not to comply with something that's illegal, immoral or unjust.

00:30:16.160 As a matter of fact, your duty is to the opposite.

00:30:18.300 It's not to comply to that.

00:30:19.640 It's to challenge that authority.

00:30:21.620 All right.

00:30:22.280 You are the first line.

00:30:24.360 Those agents and those inspectors and the prosecutors and everyone, you are the first line of defense.

00:30:31.800 Like it is.

00:30:32.380 It either starts with you or it ends with you.

00:30:35.020 If they control you.

00:30:36.740 Well, you know, it's what we fear.

00:30:40.360 The worst is probably a lot closer than we think.

00:30:42.660 Yeah.

00:30:43.240 Thank you very much, John.

00:30:44.360 I appreciate it.

00:30:45.400 He is.

00:30:45.880 Thank you, sir.

00:30:46.500 You bet.

00:30:46.940 Former ATF agent.

00:30:49.340 We've tried to have him on for, I don't know.

00:30:52.740 Well, forever.

00:30:54.260 Wanted to talk to him about more than Fast and Furious.

00:30:56.800 And he wrote us and said, hey, I have 167 days left at the ATF.

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00:32:53.320 Okay, let me see.

00:32:56.780 I've got one more thing that is gigantic, and I've only touched on it today.

00:33:03.420 I want to go deep here.

00:33:05.180 The Biden administration, according to Fox News, is considering forcing migrants who cross into the United States illegally to remain in Texas while they wait out their asylum screening.

00:33:19.780 Are you out of your mind?

00:33:21.860 First of all, I don't believe there's any constitutional way you can do this, but you want to put the burden on Texas and not all 50 states?

00:33:32.540 How dare you?

00:33:34.280 How dare you?

00:33:36.520 I wanted to get somebody on to talk about this who knows Ken Cuccinelli.

00:33:41.320 He is former acting DHS deputy secretary, also the former attorney general of Virginia and now senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America.

00:33:50.580 Ken, welcome to the program.

00:33:53.720 Hey, always good to be with you.

00:33:55.340 Tell me, please, that Fox News has this wrong.

00:33:59.760 Please.

00:34:00.800 No.

00:34:01.380 You know, this administration, it's shocking but not surprising, you know.

00:34:06.760 But this is incredible.

00:34:10.440 Your constitutional comment would apply to Americans.

00:34:15.740 Interstate travel is not something that can be constitutionally impaired for citizens, etc.

00:34:22.800 But this administration treats people who have invaded this country. 0.99

00:34:27.820 Their first step in here was breaking our laws as having all the rights of everyone else around them, which is not legally correct.

00:34:38.100 And yet, instead of a Remain in Mexico program, which was the most effective deterrent of numerous ones in the Trump administration to deterring illegal immigration, they have a Remain in Texas program.

00:34:54.400 You know, right when Eric Adams in New York City is saying, is calling Greg Abbott a madman for busing, as he and Governor DeSantis have done, illegals to New York City, and he's saying it's destroying his city.

00:35:11.420 As he says, it will never recover.

00:35:13.620 It will never be the same.

00:35:15.420 And how many, Stu, did we see what came up from Texas?

00:35:18.220 10,000?

00:35:18.800 Yeah, I think it was 13,000 total.

00:35:21.760 13,000 total.

00:35:22.760 Came from Texas.

00:35:24.100 100,000 from all of the borders that the people are crossing.

00:35:27.680 Right.

00:35:28.080 But that's minuscule compared to what Texas is enduring.

00:35:33.580 Right.

00:35:34.080 That 13,000 is two days heavy Biden administration crossing.

00:35:41.600 Right.

00:35:42.000 Two days.

00:35:42.940 Three regular days.

00:35:45.260 So, here they get a week's worth of crossing into Texas, and they're crying uncle.

00:35:53.340 And this is outrageous and dastardly.

00:35:55.920 So much for being a sanctuary city. 0.81

00:35:58.360 This is what it costs to put your money where your big fat mouth is.

00:36:03.480 And the Biden administration cares more about illegal aliens in other countries than Americans in this country.

00:36:11.360 This is a direct punishment for not playing ball with this administration.

00:36:18.540 I think that, fine, do whatever you want. 0.99

00:36:21.360 We'll destroy you. 0.99

00:36:23.080 Am I reading that wrong? 0.97

00:36:25.180 No, I don't think you're reading that wrong.

00:36:26.660 And that comes at the same time that they're suing Texas to take down efforts Texas is finally making.

00:36:33.160 It took two years, but Greg Abbott has finally been trying to repel people from invading Texas.

00:36:40.300 And the case is specifically about the buoys they are using, these huge buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to block, to essentially create their own water wall in a particularly high crossing area to make it hard for people to get into Texas illegally.

00:36:59.340 And DOJ is spending its time and effort and our money trying to stop Texas from protecting itself and then is rolling out this idea that everyone who invades Texas will then stay there.

00:37:16.520 So you're absolutely right, Glenn.

00:37:18.280 At the same time, they're trying to trap illegals in Texas to preserve L.A. and Chicago and New York's sanctuary city status so they can keep political virtue signaling at no cost.

00:37:32.640 They're also stopping Texas from protecting Texas.

00:37:36.640 And by the way, when Texas protects their own border, they're protecting all of us.

00:37:40.680 We all know that.

00:37:41.240 So let me ask you, Ken.

00:37:43.240 So is this is this just specifically Texas or does that include New Mexico and Arizona and California?

00:37:50.440 No.

00:37:51.080 Funny thing about that.

00:37:52.440 How about that?

00:37:53.660 What the reporter who broke this story was is a reporter I dealt with at USCIS, which is the legal immigration agency that I led before I became the deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:38:09.420 And he has extremely good sources inside USCIS, which is where these regulations come from.

00:38:18.720 So he's not you know, I may not have enjoyed it while I was leading.

00:38:24.260 But but he tends to get accurate information of at least what's being considered and thought about.

00:38:31.160 And so, you know, this is an administration effort to zero in on one state.

00:38:39.160 There can be no legitimate rationale to exclude the other border states.

00:38:45.240 There just can't be.

00:38:47.340 But of course, then you're not protecting Los Angeles, right?

00:38:50.900 Right.

00:38:51.080 So, you know, this kind of V.S. we've come to expect from this administration, they have been underwater with Democrat voters on their immigration policies for over two years.

00:39:04.680 Democrats don't approve of what Joe Biden does or really doesn't do.

00:39:09.900 What does that tell you going going into an election with a. 0.99

00:39:13.840 It tells you the lunatic fringe has the wheel in this administration.

00:39:18.520 That's what it tells you.

00:39:20.400 And they do.

00:39:21.540 So is what are the odds that the people in the administration go forward with this?

00:39:28.940 So this one is so embarrassing.

00:39:31.620 It sounds so outrageous right off the top that I think shining the spotlight, as you're doing right now on it, may get the plug pulled.

00:39:42.220 They may say, oh, no, no, no.

00:39:43.440 We were never thinking about such a thing.

00:39:45.200 Right.

00:39:45.500 We heard that about gas stoves.

00:39:46.860 I was going to say, then they go and do it anyway.

00:39:50.360 Yes.

00:39:50.740 So, but realize if they attempt to implement a policy like this, Texas is going to be in an extremely good position to sue them.

00:40:03.160 Except we have our we have our rhino Republicans and the Democrats trying to impeach our attorney general. 0.98

00:40:11.700 So, you know.

00:40:12.340 Yeah, I understand.

00:40:14.220 It's always good.

00:40:14.960 I understand.

00:40:16.040 They're a little distracted right now.

00:40:17.900 But the Fifth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit preserved the border barrier, the buoys, the DOJ is suing over.

00:40:25.820 They did that, I want to say, yesterday after a judge decided to rule against Texas based on a statute while ignoring the constitutional claim of Texas that they have the right to protect themselves under Article 1, Section 10 of the O Constitution.

00:40:44.360 The Constitution, which last time I checked, trumped those statutes.

00:40:50.180 But the judge ignored that.

00:40:52.160 And so the Fifth Circuit quickly blocked his injunction.

00:40:56.660 And I'm confident that the Fifth Circuit will flip that and Texas will keep its small water wall and thus have the legal authority to expand it.

00:41:07.720 And then really what we should do is ask Greg Abbott to do just that.

00:41:12.100 So, Ken, I was reading Abraham Lincoln last night and he said, we cannot be divided.

00:41:20.920 We can't be a divided country.

00:41:22.760 And his issue in his day was slavery.

00:41:25.040 Ours is, I don't know, fascism, Marxism.

00:41:27.420 I don't know what they're fighting for.

00:41:29.300 But an end of the America under the Constitution.

00:41:31.840 And he said, we will, it will only end in one way.

00:41:39.500 We will either be a nation of all slavery or we will be an all free nation.

00:41:45.420 And that's what we're fighting this battle for right now.

00:41:48.140 And I, you know, there are people that say, you know, we should, you know, secede or, you know, whatever.

00:41:55.940 I'm going to move to, you know, the state where I'm betting on, I did it.

00:41:59.300 Um, but it, it, it can't end that way because it really will be that nobody's going to stop fighting.

00:42:07.340 I'm not going to stop standing up for the Constitution.

00:42:09.520 And they're apparently not going to stop, you know, standing up for madness.

00:42:15.220 Undermining it.

00:42:16.140 Right.

00:42:16.460 Right.

00:42:16.920 So do you see a way out of all of this?

00:42:20.440 What do you see rays of hope or?

00:42:23.920 Well, yes.

00:42:25.440 I just wonder if they'll hold and, you know, there's an old Reagan quip about the wisdom of America resides with Americans.

00:42:34.040 Yeah.

00:42:34.720 And, um, ultimately we're going to, we're going to find out, uh, is there enough wisdom left and enough Americans to see this for what it is?

00:42:44.700 You know, every so often we have to elect a liberal and see the incredible damage they do and go, oh yeah, that's why we don't elect those people.

00:42:54.280 Um, and, and then, you know, somebody on our side comes in and the other side beats them by creating anger and so forth.

00:43:03.520 And let's face it, Donald Trump does nothing better than motivate opponents, literally nothing better.

00:43:10.600 And, um, and, um, and, and that's continued to happen, uh, over time.

00:43:17.960 Um, but now the radical left has the wheel in this administration.

00:43:23.780 Joe Biden is a walking vegetable and they are implementing a race America policies, a race America's border, a race America's history, a race America's constitution.

00:43:36.520 I just made that up.

00:43:37.560 I kind of like that race America theory.

00:43:39.760 Um, but that is what they're doing, right?

00:43:42.900 I mean, you, you were trying to put a name on it, but they hate what you and I know is America.

00:43:50.720 Yeah.

00:43:51.140 What makes us exceptional and unique.

00:43:53.440 You talk about it all the time and you're right.

00:43:56.240 And they hate it.

00:43:57.740 They want to drag us down to being just an average other country.

00:44:02.540 Um, and the best way they think the quickest way they think to do that is erase the borders,

00:44:07.800 invite everybody in with every other political world history, uh, and make them citizens and then let them vote like they ever did in their original country that lo and behold,

00:44:21.580 didn't work there any more than blue citizens move from New York city to a red state and then vote like they did in their blue city.

00:44:29.920 And then they're surprised.

00:44:31.360 Wow.

00:44:31.720 My red state is getting worse.

00:44:33.440 Yeah.

00:44:34.780 There's something to that.

00:44:36.040 Ken, thank you very much.

00:44:38.340 Um, the only thing you said that I really disagree with is, uh, they're trying to make us an average country.

00:44:43.760 I, at this point I, I, I'd fight a little less hard if I thought that, that, that they would stop at us being, you know, France.

00:44:52.060 I'd like, in fact, I'd like to be France at this point.

00:44:55.440 Ken, thank you so much.

00:44:56.800 I appreciate it.

00:44:57.700 God bless.

00:44:58.220 No, no, no, no, no.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 08, 2023

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