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00:00:43.360 The economy, also a preview of tomorrow night's 90-minute special on the election.

00:00:50.560 And it is a must-watch.

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00:01:09.320 This is not only the problem, but we're including the solution to that problem.

00:01:16.640 And you are critical.

00:01:17.880 And it's not, this is bipartisan.

00:01:20.460 This is not partisan.

00:01:21.940 I don't care who you voted for.

00:01:24.100 We all should agree that the election has got to be secure.

00:01:28.180 And we have found something that was presented at the Supreme Court and now is, in open records, a way to hack in and possibly change the results of the election.

00:01:42.560 And it has got to be shored up.

00:01:45.020 That's on tomorrow's podcast.

00:01:47.180 Anything else on Blaze TV when you're doing your special, like maybe right before it, something like that?

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00:01:53.180 Nothing really good.

00:01:53.940 Really?

00:01:54.480 Yeah.

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00:02:01.920 We just kind of...

00:02:02.820 Lame legs?

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00:02:04.400 You know.

00:02:05.160 When I think of you and your show, Stu, on Blaze, I think of Marty Fellman, where he's like, walk this way.

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00:03:21.700 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:34.180 Tomorrow night on The Blaze, we are doing a very dangerous show.

00:03:41.220 We're going to show you the truth, but the truth revolves around some very powerful and very well-moneyed and litigious groups of people.

00:03:55.980 And if our information is misunderstood or twisted, it will be extraordinarily damaging to not only this show, my voice, but also The Blaze itself.

00:04:12.880 And this is, I've done a billion shows.

00:04:16.920 I did shows on George Soros.

00:04:20.760 A week expose on him.

00:04:23.680 And we haven't spent as much time with attorneys as we have on this show.

00:04:31.480 We want to be very careful.

00:04:33.940 And I also want to be very careful.

00:04:37.560 I got a call from a friend.

00:04:39.480 This is how it started.

00:04:41.860 I got a call from a friend who said, Glenn, you have to talk to John Graves.

00:04:45.340 I said, who's John Graves?

00:04:46.700 And he said, John Graves, he is a CEO.

00:04:50.580 He is a software guy and an attorney.

00:04:54.520 And I said, okay, what does he want to talk about?

00:04:57.920 And he said, uh, the stealing of the election.

00:05:01.480 And I said, I don't, I'm hanging up the phone.

00:05:05.020 I do not want to live in 2020 anymore.

00:05:08.040 Okay.

00:05:08.740 I don't want to hear it.

00:05:10.180 I, we had Sidney Powell on and we said to her, she was on one time.

00:05:14.900 And I said, you call me when you have the evidence, but don't come on and say that you have evidence.

00:05:24.660 If you don't have evidence.

00:05:26.720 Uh, and now it's, it doesn't matter except to secure the elections.

00:05:33.560 And he said, that's why you need to talk to John Graves.

00:05:36.700 And I said, why?

00:05:38.100 And he said, because this came up in a Supreme court case, people, uh, the people who know what they're looking for, we'll see this.

00:05:48.960 And this could screw up all of our elections.

00:05:51.720 And he said, he didn't want anything to do with it.

00:05:55.640 If it was going to be about relitigating 2020, or if it was just speculation, he said, but there is a very dangerous weakness in the system.

00:06:07.620 And now it has been exposed.

00:06:09.840 It is out in the open because it's in the Supreme court case.

00:06:13.880 That's just being heard now.

00:06:16.020 So I called John.

00:06:17.300 We had a long conversation and then I passed him on to our researchers and our attorneys and everything else.

00:06:23.980 Uh, and we have an amazing show for you tomorrow.

00:06:28.560 Um, and we also have the solution to the problem, which is very rare that you get just the problem and the solution.

00:06:38.780 Uh, John Graves joins me now.

00:06:41.280 Hi, John.

00:06:42.800 Hi, Glenn.

00:06:43.780 Thanks for having me.

00:06:44.660 You bet.

00:06:45.140 Did I set that up to your satisfaction on the way you feel?

00:06:49.580 Yeah, I, I, I would, I would agree with all of that.

00:06:53.780 I've been a skeptic on the whole software thing for a lot of reasons.

00:06:57.940 Um, and, and I don't think you or I, or the guy who introduced us, any of us are focused on stealing the election or the past.

00:07:07.760 Uh, my thing has been, how do we get fair and secure elections in this country?

00:07:13.060 And, and part of the reason I was skeptical is I own software companies and database companies.

00:07:18.200 Um, and I thought, well, there, there's so many things that are irrefutable.

00:07:22.620 If you just tell the truth about Hunter Biden, it's a different election outcome.

00:07:26.980 And that has nothing to do with software.

00:07:28.860 If you, you stop Zuck bucks funding half a billion, there's a different outcome.

00:07:32.880 That has nothing to do with software.

00:07:34.220 You, you, you require signature verifications.

00:07:37.000 Instead of all these mail-in ballots and draw.

00:07:39.120 So I had like five reasons why there were problems in the election.

00:07:43.860 And none of them had the word software in them.

00:07:45.780 And I thought nobody's going to get a deep dive.

00:07:48.020 Nobody's going to get anything.

00:07:49.620 And even if you do politically, what are you doing going backwards?

00:07:52.940 But when I found this evidence at first, I thought this can't be right.

00:07:57.480 Cause I, cause I know enough about it that when I, what they found in this software, it really

00:08:03.520 alarmed me.

00:08:04.800 And I was concerned about everything you just said, but I was also concerned what happens

00:08:09.300 if we don't have a solution and people just get demoralized.

00:08:13.000 Oh my gosh.

00:08:13.820 If, if that's the problem, what's really disturbing, John is, uh, now I'm describing this on the

00:08:20.640 air and everything has been run through attorneys as an alleged weakness, but yes, that's right.

00:08:26.720 I have seen this, I've seen people use what we're going to show tomorrow and go in and change things.

00:08:36.720 Yep.

00:08:37.340 So that's right.

00:08:39.340 It's not an alleged weakness.

00:08:41.200 I'm, we're not casting, uh, you know, uh, any intent or ill will or anything.

00:08:48.820 It's just, it is a weakness that is there, how it will be used or if it would be used is a different

00:08:56.040 story.

00:08:57.180 That's right.

00:08:57.860 Is that right?

00:08:58.980 That's exactly right.

00:08:59.960 And that's what I tell people, uh, when people, you know, see, have a theory or there is a

00:09:05.160 problem like this, and this is a pretty clear, if these allegations are true and the systems

00:09:10.020 for 2024 have this, uh, it's a very serious problem because you can change things and cover

00:09:16.840 your tracks, but there is a workable solution by this November.

00:09:20.860 And so that's kind of where I went into motion is like, let's, let's find a way.

00:09:26.040 To take every person, a regular person like me, who is, who is out here going, I just

00:09:31.460 want fair and secure elections.

00:09:32.660 We live in a world where when Hillary loses, she blames software in the Russians.

00:09:36.720 When Trump loses, he blames all kinds of things, including software.

00:09:39.940 We need to live in a country where whoever loses says, you know what?

00:09:44.220 I lost a fair fight.

00:09:46.040 I lost a fair and secure election.

00:09:48.040 That's what my passion is.

00:09:49.340 It is the only thing that will hold us together.

00:09:52.640 If we lose our faith this time around, it's done.

00:09:56.800 It's done.

00:09:57.560 And everything is stacked against us trusting this election on both sides, either side.

00:10:03.820 That's right.

00:10:04.420 Um, and so we have to do everything.

00:10:06.280 And this is tomorrow night is a show that is not just for people who vote for Donald Trump

00:10:11.560 or vote for conservatives.

00:10:12.800 It is one who votes for Bernie Sanders or Bill Clinton or Joe Biden.

00:10:20.660 We all should be very concerned about the vote.

00:10:25.600 And we have the documentation and we will take you through.

00:10:31.180 This is a 90 minute special tomorrow because we want to be very, very careful.

00:10:35.760 And you're with me, uh, on set.

00:10:38.720 Are you not?

00:10:39.720 Yes.

00:10:40.060 Yeah, I am.

00:10:40.700 Yes.

00:10:40.980 Right.

00:10:41.280 And then, um, we're going to present the solution tomorrow night as well.

00:10:45.380 And then I'd love to have you, John, come and spend maybe at least an hour with me on

00:10:49.980 radio the next day to talk about the solution.

00:10:53.500 Because if this, if this is heard properly, if we present it properly and you, uh, follow

00:11:03.580 the system that we think will change things and it's both Democrat and Republican and nobody's

00:11:10.280 being accusatory, uh, it will change.

00:11:13.940 It will change.

00:11:15.140 And if it doesn't, then, you know, you at least know.

00:11:19.400 Um, yes.

00:11:20.320 Have you found anyone, John, that has a, uh, a reasonable explanation on, on no, what you're

00:11:29.980 seeing here is not that.

00:11:32.520 No, I haven't.

00:11:34.040 They had three cybersecurity experts that were eminently qualified, including people who had

00:11:38.260 tested these machines and basically are giving up their career to go public with their, their

00:11:43.940 sworn statements under penalty of perjury.

00:11:45.980 So I engage several cybersecurity people that I've known.

00:11:49.680 And I have a lot of programs that work for me, but I hired people that were specialists

00:11:53.720 to get say, am I crazy?

00:11:55.380 This looks pretty troubling.

00:11:57.380 And, and haven't found an exception yet.

00:11:59.780 Everyone agrees.

00:12:01.060 It's pretty basic problems of what they found, you know?

00:12:05.020 Uh, and, and, and there's some of these systems that are out there now.

00:12:07.540 It's not even just an allegation they're in the public domain.

00:12:10.300 So a cyber person can go look at this and make their own decision.

00:12:14.120 Yeah.

00:12:14.980 And so that was the thing that was so concerning to me.

00:12:17.820 It's one thing.

00:12:19.200 Um, I mean, it's still really, really bad if that exists, but it's another thing that it's

00:12:25.360 been exposed and is in the public record now in a case, because if you know what you're

00:12:32.380 looking for, if you were following that, you could go find it and you could possibly change

00:12:38.200 the election.

00:12:39.480 That's correct.

00:12:40.380 Yeah.

00:12:40.640 And so, and so there are solutions to it.

00:12:42.640 You can, you can, you know, the citizens, the people in charge of elections are the county

00:12:47.700 officials.

00:12:48.720 And so we were, the solution is we created a tool to connect a voter to that person.

00:12:54.700 And we're going to be talking about that on the show.

00:12:56.360 And how many, how many counties are there that this would be a concern?

00:13:02.480 Well, over 722 counties, about 50 million people, there are 3,143 counties in America

00:13:09.960 and, uh, at least 722 plus use this.

00:13:13.800 Some counties split between different programs, but part of what we're asking is, Hey, go look

00:13:19.520 at all your counties.

00:13:20.780 We, we, we don't just because this is on here, this could be not known on some of the other

00:13:25.620 ones.

00:13:25.840 And it's very simple to just do a, uh, uh, what I'm calling a bipartisan inspection.

00:13:32.020 We don't need a five-year audit.

00:13:33.620 We don't want one side looking, just walk in there with the video, show the database

00:13:38.180 and make sure you got a Democrat and a Republican standing there that we want both sides to say,

00:13:44.280 Hey, we want a fair election.

00:13:45.820 That's what we want.

00:13:46.820 And we want it to be secure.

00:13:48.740 Um, tomorrow you will see this on my Wednesday night special.

00:13:53.140 It is a special 90 minute version, um, because we not only are going to really explain in

00:13:59.580 a deep sort of way, what the problem is, we're going to show you what this problem creates

00:14:05.900 if we don't fix it.

00:14:07.700 And then we offer you the solution.

00:14:09.740 And it is very, very clear.

00:14:11.360 I would urge you if you are, if you work for the County, um, that you find your commissioner,

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00:14:25.300 It doesn't matter of Republican or Democrat.

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00:14:31.040 Um, and you know, you don't have to take my word for it.

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00:17:00.180 Now back to the podcast.

00:17:02.700 Kirsten Pledger is on with me.

00:17:05.640 She is a mom who's has students at the Mount Nebo Middle School.

00:17:12.080 She's been fighting against furries along with many other people at Utah Middle School.

00:17:19.600 Now, I thought it was important to bring this story to you because it's in Utah and whatever

00:17:27.280 you might think of Utah, you know, one thing, they, they believe in God and you know, they're

00:17:38.460 very, very conservatives.

00:17:40.460 If you, if you've ever met, you know, people in a Mormon community, it is like stepping back 1.00

00:17:46.780 in time just a little bit sometimes, um, because it's just a good, solid, you know, family rooted

00:17:54.580 community.

00:17:56.320 If it's happening there, you won't believe what's happening in your school.

00:18:02.000 Kirsten, welcome to the program.

00:18:03.420 How are you?

00:18:04.600 I'm good.

00:18:05.120 Thanks.

00:18:05.460 Thanks for having me.

00:18:06.320 You bet.

00:18:06.820 So you're a mom of four. 0.94

00:18:09.300 Yes.

00:18:09.780 You're a hairstylist.

00:18:12.500 Yep.

00:18:13.860 Salon is in your house, your husband, and you also have an HVAC, uh, company.

00:18:19.380 Um, you're involved with your kids.

00:18:21.720 You're an advocate for adoption.

00:18:24.620 Um, why are you getting involved in the furry thing?

00:18:30.360 Well, because I have heard, I mean, my son has been complaining about it for a really long

00:18:36.320 time now.

00:18:37.320 How is he complaining about it?

00:18:39.780 Um, complaining that it's distracting kids chewing on sticks in class or licking themselves

00:18:46.300 in class during a lecture or kids bringing tennis balls to school and throwing them down

00:18:53.740 the hallway for the dog furries to chase, um, furries rubbing up against them, scratching

00:18:59.420 them, spraying them in the eyes with Febreze, barking at them.

00:19:02.860 Um, um, at first I didn't know what to think.

00:19:06.480 Okay.

00:19:06.680 Hang on.

00:19:07.000 Hang on.

00:19:07.300 Just hang on.

00:19:08.020 Just a second.

00:19:09.220 One of those things didn't belong.

00:19:11.320 I mean, the tennis ball, the stick, the licking themselves.

00:19:14.340 I got it all.

00:19:16.160 Spraying with Febreze.

00:19:17.820 What is that all about?

00:19:19.200 I have no idea, but they are spraying kids in the eyes with Febreze.

00:19:26.680 Oh, okay.

00:19:28.300 But just in the eyes.

00:19:29.420 I'm assuming, I'm assuming like a cat sprays or something.

00:19:33.520 I'm not positive.

00:19:35.120 Okay.

00:19:36.160 Um, all right.

00:19:37.140 So, um, this, this has been going on for how long?

00:19:41.080 Um, I've known about it for a few years now in Nebo school district.

00:19:46.420 I've known about it for about two years.

00:19:48.460 Okay.

00:19:49.080 Um, now your, your son is in sixth grade and they say that, you know, this is just kids

00:19:56.380 being kids.

00:19:57.680 I'm sorry, but my father and my grandfather, if I were dressing up, licking myself, chewing 0.90

00:20:03.860 on a stick, they would have looked at me and said, what the hell is wrong with you?

00:20:09.020 Um, they're not four.

00:20:11.800 Um, they're in sixth grade.

00:20:14.440 Um, and he says it's distracting.

00:20:18.420 I've heard that at this school, there's one teacher that had been bitten by a furry.

00:20:23.660 Is that true?

00:20:25.360 I have no idea if that one's true.

00:20:28.360 Okay.

00:20:29.040 Um, it wouldn't surprise me.

00:20:30.800 I know kids have been bitten by the furries.

00:20:33.920 And what are the teachers in the school?

00:20:35.860 Because the, the Tribune, which is a wreck of a newspaper.

00:20:41.080 Um, it, they said, none of this is happening.

00:20:45.800 Um, and the school says, this is nothing to worry about.

00:20:49.640 None of this is happening.

00:20:51.540 Why are they saying that?

00:20:54.080 Honestly, it doesn't surprise me.

00:20:56.020 Um, bullying and drugs are two of the things that have been a major issue with the Nebel School District for a while now.

00:21:02.960 And it makes me sad that anyone would bully.

00:21:05.760 But kids, as you know, kids are kids.

00:21:09.740 And us parents can only lead by example and teach our kids to be kind.

00:21:14.080 And unless we're going to hold their hand for the rest of their lives, 24-7.

00:21:18.400 Um, but the school district is not helping by even not, by not even acknowledging any of this is happening.

00:21:26.140 Even if that's just evidence of a longstanding problem with them denying that all this, they have photos and videos and seeing it with their own eyes.

00:21:36.680 And, uh, to me, it sounds like this is social and emotional learning and practice.

00:21:41.340 They want to teach our children to reorder their values and their beliefs, even the idea of what is truth.

00:21:48.380 Truth.

00:21:49.460 It's like, to me, it's like exposure therapy, getting them to tolerate and accept a lie.

00:21:54.820 And they're making accommodations for some kids that are, that's called centering around the marginalized.

00:22:02.260 So, so bizarre.

00:22:04.720 Um, has your son said anything in class or complained at all?

00:22:11.040 Like, hey, you know, he's chewing on a stick.

00:22:14.000 It might not be the best idea, but it's really distracting.

00:22:17.120 Yeah, they, we've had a number of students who have complained or told the principal, vice principal, dean, dean of students, teachers, and they continue with, just be kind to them, just be kind, just be nice.

00:22:33.500 Even if I have one student who was eating lunch with her friends and one of the cat furries came up and started rubbing on her leg and just telling her over and over again to stop, her not stopping and finally getting upset and saying, stop.

00:22:49.220 She and her friends had to leave the lunchroom because they weren't being nice to the furries.

00:22:54.920 Oh my gosh. 0.98

00:22:59.200 So it's, it's ridiculous. 0.95

00:23:02.820 I feel like they're just trying to downplay it, trying to say that our children and us adults are lying.

00:23:08.700 And with the turnout and how this has gone viral and the turnout of our protest, with how many people have come forward and come to me and sent me hundreds of stories and pictures and videos, there is no way that this is just some made up thing.

00:23:25.780 So, so it took an awful lot of courage to come on the show with me.

00:23:34.240 Yeah.

00:23:35.460 I mean, you know, I hope you felt safe that you weren't going to, you know, but I mean, just because your son and now you're using your name and everybody's going to know.

00:23:47.720 And are you afraid of blowback at all?

00:23:50.920 Um, yes, there's always a good chance of blowback.

00:23:57.160 Um, I haven't received any personally yet, but I believe in standing up for what's right and standing up for my children.

00:24:04.920 I will always stand up for my children and do what is right and protect them.

00:24:12.860 You know, I've talked to, uh, some house members and Senate, uh, members from the state of Utah.

00:24:19.420 Um, this is a few years ago.

00:24:21.100 And I said, uh, you know, what, what is going on with the schools?

00:24:25.680 And, uh, I was told over and over again, the problem is the teachers unions spend so much money and lobbying and everything else.

00:24:36.340 And the parents don't call for the other side.

00:24:40.100 So they're only hearing, um, from parents when it's bad, uh, and you know, when it's something that they've done because they've, they were in bed with the teachers unions.

00:24:52.580 But most times it's just a few parents and the teachers unions are everywhere.

00:24:58.220 Um, and the, these, the people that told me this were very frustrated with it.

00:25:02.680 And they said, the biggest thing that people can do to help us help them is to call and make sure that your legislators in your state know exactly how you feel and how you feel honestly about these teachers unions.

00:25:18.500 Because they're the ones that are running everything.

00:25:22.460 They're the ones that are on the front lines.

00:25:24.640 They're the ones that should be saying, you know, your sixth grader, um, thinks they're a cat and they spend their time licking themselves in class.

00:25:34.620 And it's a disturbance to other students.

00:25:36.960 And quite honestly, you might want to have that checked.

00:25:39.640 There's something wrong here.

00:25:42.300 Exactly.

00:25:43.020 It's, I mean, I don't care if you're black, blue, purple, green, a fish, a cat, or a dog.

00:25:50.160 It doesn't matter to me.

00:25:51.520 You can identify however you would like.

00:25:54.120 But when it's a disturbance in class or when you're bullying or hurting other students, that's, that's when I have a problem.

00:26:01.940 This shouldn't be in the schools at all.

00:26:04.680 Schools, I don't believe politics or any of that should be in schools.

00:26:09.180 I feel like those are for our kids to learn.

00:26:11.580 And those type of things are for kids to learn outside of school.

00:26:15.600 Just like I said earlier, exposure therapy.

00:26:18.480 Get them to tolerate and accept the lie.

00:26:21.480 Kirsten, pleasure.

00:26:23.480 I have to disagree with one thing you said there.

00:26:26.280 Because I've always been like, I don't care, and I don't care what color, religion, or anything else you are. 0.96

00:26:32.340 Unless you're trying to kill people. 0.94

00:26:33.860 Then I kind of care about your religion. 0.97

00:26:35.580 Yeah.

00:26:36.140 But, you know, we can no longer have this toleration of, you know, you want to call yourself a cat, you can call yourself a cat.

00:26:45.260 Now, in, you know, you can do that.

00:26:49.320 But I'm not going down the road and identifying you as a cat.

00:26:53.800 I will not call you by your pronouns.

00:26:56.920 Right.

00:26:57.260 You know, little miss kitty.

00:26:58.500 You're not a cat.

00:26:59.920 And quite honestly, the more you keep up with this, the more unhealthy I think you are, and the more damage you're doing to the other kids.

00:27:09.840 Because, I'm sorry, but we need to be respectful and tolerant of other people.

00:27:15.940 But when it comes to the truth, we must stand for the truth.

00:27:21.320 That's how we got into this place.

00:27:22.920 That we're dealing with furries.

00:27:24.940 It's crazy.

00:27:26.620 No, I completely agree.

00:27:28.580 I don't, I feel, I mean, people are people.

00:27:32.020 They're going to do what they want to do.

00:27:33.220 But forcing us, forcing others that don't believe in the same beliefs you have or this identity craziness that's going on in our world right now, getting upset with them or judging them for not believing in the same thing as you is, I feel, is wrong.

00:27:51.140 I feel like it's a two-sided coin. 0.99

00:27:53.800 You're being a hypocrite. 0.99

00:27:55.780 Yeah, well, you don't judge them. 1.00

00:27:58.000 And, you know, you're going to hell.

00:27:59.660 You don't judge them.

00:28:00.860 You're not their judge.

00:28:01.860 But you are someone who is supposed to be discriminating in all the good sort of ways that word used to have.

00:28:11.260 Discriminating tastes where you could discriminate good from evil.

00:28:16.140 There's no good fruit from the tree that teaches kids they can be dogs, you know, elephants, or the opposite sex. 0.58

00:28:26.660 Tell me the good fruit that comes from that tree.

00:28:29.320 There's nothing good that comes from that tree.

00:28:32.660 And we have to start saying that.

00:28:34.920 There's nothing good.

00:28:37.060 There is no good that comes from this.

00:28:41.100 Stop it.

00:28:42.340 When kids use their imagination, that is entirely different than insisting that they're a cat and they're in sixth grade.

00:28:52.420 No.

00:28:52.980 No.

00:28:53.660 Right.

00:28:54.260 No.

00:28:54.580 Forcing that upon the kids is just helping the kids learn, like, oh, okay, this is acceptable.

00:29:00.640 This is okay.

00:29:01.200 This is the normal.

00:29:02.120 And it's not acceptable.

00:29:03.840 It's not acceptable.

00:29:05.040 Um, and it's also teaching our kids to be quiet when they see things that aren't right.

00:29:11.960 You, you have, we have to teach our kids to stand.

00:29:15.420 I'm sorry.

00:29:16.900 He's chewing on a stick, which is very disturbing and quite honestly, not healthy for him.

00:29:24.700 Could you please tell him no chewing?

00:29:29.380 I can't believe I have to say this to you, adult, as a sixth grader, but can you please tell him no chewing on sticks in class?

00:29:40.360 Right.

00:29:40.920 And I, I do know there are teachers that stand with us and it's sad because they have to also look at this as this is their career.

00:29:48.520 This is their livelihood on the line.

00:29:50.220 If they stand up and say something, what's going to happen to them?

00:29:53.120 And let me ask you this, I really do feel for, I used to feel that way, Kirsten.

00:29:58.400 And I still, I have sympathy for the teachers who are, or feel this way, but let me just speak to the teachers that might feel that way.

00:30:06.360 You know, what's going to happen to you if you speak out?

00:30:10.740 Well, let me ask you eternally, what is going to happen to you if you don't speak out?

00:30:16.960 And these children are, are, who are the most vulnerable among us, you are allowing them to be misled and down this path where, again, no good comes.

00:30:30.820 You, I appreciate your fear.

00:30:33.260 I do.

00:30:34.420 I really do.

00:30:35.440 I know how frightening it is.

00:30:37.220 But you have an eternal responsibility to the truth, especially when it comes to children.

00:30:46.320 Kirsten, I admire your bravery.

00:30:48.220 Thank you so much.

00:30:49.200 And we'll continue to follow this story.

00:30:51.640 I hope there's, I hope there is action taken in this school and this, this nonsense stops.

00:30:58.100 Thank you.

00:30:58.860 Great.

00:30:59.120 Thank you so much.

00:31:00.180 Yep.

00:31:00.400 God bless.

00:31:00.860 That's a Kirsten Pledger, uh, from the Mount Nebo middle school.

00:31:05.520 She's just a mom who is surrounded by a crazy group of, uh, administrators at the school.

00:31:15.100 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.

00:31:18.280 Check out the full show podcast to listen to the rest of this interview.

00:31:22.380 I just have to tell you, uh, what my, uh, phone screening, uh, screen looks like right now.

00:31:29.640 Uh, uh,

00:31:30.860 of four or five calls about furries, uh, and parents dealing with furries.

00:31:38.580 And then I have Mike Lee on the phone and I have a decision to make and it's, uh, it's

00:31:46.440 a hard one.

00:31:47.060 It is a hard one.

00:31:47.960 We're going to have to come back to the furry thing, uh, because, uh, apparently a lot of

00:31:53.020 people have experience with furries.

00:31:54.760 Their kids have experience with, uh, furries in school.

00:31:57.940 So we'll come back to that maybe tomorrow or the next day.

00:32:00.720 Um, Mike Lee joins us now, uh, from, uh, Washington, DC.

00:32:05.520 There is a, uh, vote coming up for Ukraine and, you know, uh, Mike Lee just loves Vladimir

00:32:13.340 Putin.

00:32:14.020 Uh, and so he's against that Ukraine bill.

00:32:17.100 Hello, Mike Lee.

00:32:20.280 Naturally.

00:32:20.720 Uh, I, you know, I don't know how to say good day to you, sir, and Russian, but I'm still

00:32:25.480 working on that.

00:32:26.280 I'm sure Vladimir can point that out to me.

00:32:28.060 Right.

00:32:28.400 Uh, $95 billion.

00:32:31.300 It only will take 41 senators to stop it.

00:32:34.900 There are 49 Republicans in the Senate.

00:32:37.600 Uh, but you saw what happened in the house.

00:32:40.240 They had Ukrainian flags. 0.75

00:32:43.300 It was disgusting. 0.83

00:32:45.060 Mike.

00:32:47.060 Yep.

00:32:48.540 Celebrating a foreign flag on us soil in a legislative chamber of the United States government seems 0.57

00:32:56.960 kind of odd to me, but not nearly as odd as the fact that we're shelling out $95 billion

00:33:02.820 with a B at a time when we don't have that money.

00:33:06.680 So it's borrowed, which means we're going to print it, which means it's going to contribute

00:33:11.420 even more to inflation.

00:33:12.600 It's already causing Americans that to show up an additional thousand dollars every single

00:33:16.900 month, just to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads.

00:33:21.060 This is an insult to the American people.

00:33:23.520 When you ask the American people what they want about this overwhelmingly, they say,

00:33:26.960 no, I mean, look, regardless of what you think about what's going on in Ukraine.

00:33:32.840 And I intensely dislike Vladimir Putin.

00:33:36.640 I would love for Ukraine to win this battle.

00:33:39.360 But, you know, Glenn, we've spent $113 billion plus on this.

00:33:44.400 We're already.

00:33:44.860 Why are we sending another $61 billion to that effort when Europe hasn't stepped up?

00:33:50.720 We've given more than any other nation on Earth.

00:33:53.140 It's every other nation on Earth combined.

00:33:56.020 And this is in the backyard of our European allies, who, by the way, we've been backfilling 0.81

00:34:04.420 their security needs for decades through NATO.

00:34:08.640 This is their problem more immediately than it is ours.

00:34:11.580 We shouldn't give another dime, especially while our own border is not secure.

00:34:15.800 While we have a $34.5 trillion debt and while Europe still hasn't paid up a sum, not just

00:34:24.780 equal to, but greater than what we've put in so far.

00:34:27.300 This is shameful.

00:34:28.400 I heard somebody in the house say that their border is our border.

00:34:35.040 No, it's not.

00:34:36.740 No, it's not.

00:34:37.640 Our border is our border.

00:34:39.260 Their border is their border. 0.73

00:34:42.160 I mean, we are not getting any money to protect ourselves.

00:34:47.940 We have a real and present danger because of our own border.

00:34:52.620 Everything that I'm reading, I don't even know what this is about, Mike, other than money laundering,

00:35:01.900 sending money over there and it's all going to oligarchs.

00:35:06.100 We are funding this thing.

00:35:08.700 We're sending the message that we want war. 0.89

00:35:11.860 We are talking about bringing Ukraine in and making them part of NATO, making other states 0.98

00:35:19.400 part of NATO that is kind of a red line for Vladimir Putin.

00:35:23.780 And now I read today, I think it was Poland that says they're ready for nuclear missiles

00:35:28.920 in Poland.

00:35:30.600 What do you think Vladimir Putin is going to do?

00:35:34.600 Exactly what we would do if you put those in Acapulco.

00:35:39.900 Right.

00:35:40.380 First of all, Glenn, you're wrong about the border issue.

00:35:44.260 We all know that Kiev is just a few miles away from Laredo.

00:35:48.000 So you're mistaken there.

00:35:50.640 Yeah.

00:35:50.840 But look, the idea of adding Ukraine to NATO is itself an idea about declaring war, the

00:36:02.560 United States declaring war against Russia, because Ukraine, of course, is at war with

00:36:08.420 Russia.

00:36:08.660 And if we brought Ukraine into NATO, we would have an Article V obligation to fight Russia. 0.80

00:36:16.500 So let's just call this what it is.

00:36:20.400 Those conversations are about declaring war with a nuclear armed adversary.

00:36:27.040 Now, look, I know that Russia economically and militarily is is not on par with the United States.

00:36:36.200 Nonetheless, their nuclear arsenal is their nuclear arsenal is massive, in part because

00:36:42.720 they've cheated on us like crazy for decades on our nuclear arms treaties.

00:36:48.040 And consequently, you've got to tread lightly in this area.

00:36:52.960 And nothing says the opposite of tread lightly, quite like declaring war on a nuclear armed 0.72

00:37:00.280 adversary.

00:37:00.820 It is insanity.

00:37:02.380 It's insanity.

00:37:03.280 We are we are in so much if if we don't turn this around with elections in the House, the

00:37:10.040 Senate and the White House, if if we don't turn this around, we're done.

00:37:14.700 We're absolutely this is the these actions are the actions of madmen who are I mean, if I

00:37:24.600 was being charitable, would say they're just horribly wrong at everything they do.

00:37:32.400 But I, I mean, I just don't know how to how to explain it.

00:37:37.260 And then the Republicans, I mean, what happened to to Johnson, Speaker Johnson?

00:37:42.560 I've always heard he was a good guy.

00:37:45.020 He was devout.

00:37:46.220 He really understood the Constitution.

00:37:48.460 And he is just like, I mean, he is part of the Borg.

00:37:55.080 Well, he's Churchill.

00:37:57.900 CNN literally, literally called him Winston Churchill.

00:38:01.920 He had his Winston Churchill moment.

00:38:03.800 It's let me wait, wait, let me give you let me give you the CNN headline.

00:38:07.380 By passing Ukraine aid, Johnson became an unlikely Churchill.

00:38:13.640 Yeah.

00:38:14.320 Last I checked, Glenn, Winston Churchill defended and protected his country while it was under

00:38:21.940 attack and threatened with invasion.

00:38:24.700 He didn't send America, British treasure to another continent and call that border security

00:38:35.040 for his home home country.

00:38:37.840 This is absolutely crazy.

00:38:39.300 But this is part of the fantasy land that we live in.

00:38:42.380 A lot of these guys want to think of themselves as Churchill, and they think this is the way

00:38:48.660 to do it by printing money we don't have and putting on the backs of hardworking Americans 0.98

00:38:53.360 who are made incrementally poor and a lot less safe every time we do crap like this. 0.97

00:38:58.500 All right. 0.93

00:38:58.660 So we want you to call your senator today.

00:39:02.500 Call your senator.

00:39:03.960 You call all 50 or 49 senators from the Republicans and respectfully, nicely, kindly tell them not to spend this money in Ukraine.

00:39:17.100 And I will tell you, I've talked to a lot of people.

00:39:19.860 There are more and more good guys up on Capitol Hill.

00:39:23.180 Um, they're still outnumbered, but there are more really good dependable guys.

00:39:29.100 And I hear from them every time when the audience calls, it makes a difference.

00:39:34.900 So please call, uh, and, and tell them no, no more spending money on Ukraine.

00:39:43.960 No, spend it on our border.

00:39:47.180 Keep us safe.

00:39:48.580 What are you doing?

00:39:50.200 Stop it.

00:39:51.620 Um, one other thing I want to talk to you about, Mike, is I don't understand.

00:39:56.060 The president just doled out, I think it was another $7 billion, uh, in the last couple of days on, uh, relieving student debt.

00:40:08.780 30% of that money, I think is going to people that make over $300,000 a year.

00:40:14.100 What the, how, how do you, when somebody says no to the Supreme Court and does it anyway and says, I know I don't have this power and the Supreme Court just told me I have this power, but I'm not stopping.

00:40:32.720 What has to happen to get a president who thinks he's just the king from spending our money and giving it to people who don't deserve it?

00:40:47.240 They, they took out the loan, not me.

00:40:50.340 Yeah.

00:40:51.020 So in the first place, I think it, uh, the most obvious answer is, uh, don't elect to the presidency someone who's manifestly unfit for office.

00:41:01.080 But there's also a deeper question that we all need to assess, which is decades of congressional forfeiture of fundamentally legislative authority to the executive branch have to a degree empowered this kind of action. 0.98

00:41:18.460 Whenever we enact vague, loosey-goosey language that gives a degree of discretion to the president and the bureaucrats who work under him in the executive branch, we're handing over a loaded gun, uh, to people who we have to assume will from time to time behave as imbeciles. 0.96

00:41:36.940 And so we, we've got to reverse that trend. 0.95

00:41:41.000 Yes, it's lawless what he's doing.

00:41:42.780 Yes.

00:41:42.960 He tried to do it under a different, uh, legal theory, uh, a while back and was shot down by the Supreme Court.

00:41:50.420 But as soon as that happened, it's a sad commentary on the law in our country that, uh, without a hint of hesitation, he just said, okay, well, I'll find another legal mechanism by which I can do it.

00:42:02.800 Um, I believe he'd have the authority to do it last time.

00:42:06.240 I don't think he has the authority to do it this time, but we've got to clean up our laws, uh, so that we get rid of any kind of vague delegation of power to the president because they can't be trusted.

00:42:17.900 This is why we can't have nice things.

00:42:19.280 And this is why presidents shouldn't be given vast discretion on both sides.

00:42:24.680 Senator, isn't it true that, I mean, the, when you have a, a thing like the, uh, the student loan situation where he's ignoring the Supreme Court and just trying to jam all this through.

00:42:35.480 He did this with the, with the, uh, eviction moratorium as well.

00:42:40.040 Aren't these examples of specifically what the founders were talking about when they were introducing the idea of impeachment?

00:42:46.300 I mean, I understand the pragmatic limitations of that politically with something like this, but like, isn't this, shouldn't this be included in the impeachment inquiry?

00:42:54.120 Uh, yes, without question and, and Stu, um, you, you are right, except remember with the new definition of impeachment that we have after last week, uh, basically nothing's impeachable.

00:43:07.940 I mean, you can, you can lie to Congress, um, knowingly, intentionally under oath.

00:43:13.600 And according to new Senate precedent set by Senate Democrats last week, that's not impeachable.

00:43:20.000 So too, if you take legislative authority that commands you to do X and not Y, and you instead do Y and not X, and that is also not impeachable.

00:43:32.080 So it begs the question, what's impeachable anymore?

00:43:34.900 I don't know.

00:43:35.660 According to the Senate Democrats, nothing is.

00:43:37.720 So this is really troubling.

00:43:39.600 And yet another reason why we've got to focus on who we elect as president.

00:43:42.320 Uh, I hope to shout, we elect Donald Trump as president this fall, and I hope to shout, we elect a new raft of lawmakers, not just Republicans, but Republicans who understand the vital pressing need to right size our federal government, to restore the vertical protection of federalism and the horizontal protection of separation of powers.

00:44:02.140 There is no other way to save our republic than that.

00:44:06.560 And yet that gets far too little attention from Republicans these days, because they're too damn busy spending money on wars that aren't ours with money we don't have.

00:44:15.180 Mike, 30 seconds.

00:44:16.860 Any comment on, um, the Trump case going on in New York right now?

00:44:23.120 Uh, this is, um, just a sad display of lawfare, of the weaponization of our legal system.

00:44:30.500 Uh, there isn't anybody who thinks this would be going on.

00:44:34.120 Were he not the presidential front runner from the Republican party, uh, they would never be doing it.

00:44:41.440 And so, uh, speaking of things that need to go differently in elections, I hope to shout that the people of New York will see this as the embarrassment to the empire state that it is.

00:44:51.320 And see, this is something that does not bode well.

00:44:53.840 If you have a business in New York, uh, I, I, I, I wonder how long you can handle this knowing that, you know, sure, Donald Trump is the target today.

00:45:04.740 Who will be next?

00:45:06.040 Yeah.

00:45:06.440 And they can take a misdemeanor and make it into a felony, a misdemeanor that the statute of limitations has run out on and somehow or another make that a felony and bring you into court.

00:45:16.580 No one's safe.

00:45:17.820 No one is safe.

00:45:19.020 Thank you so much, Mike.

00:45:20.280 I appreciate it.

00:45:21.100 Senator Mike Lee.

00:45:21.960 Thank you very much.

00:45:22.580 You bet.

00:45:22.860 Na, na, na, na.

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