The Glenn Beck Program - January 31, 2019


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： John McAfee & Bill O'Reilly ｜ 1⧸31⧸19


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46 minutes

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Word count

7,079

Sentence count

626

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Misogyny

17

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Hate speech

23

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Glenn Beck talks about John McAfee's bizarre interview in exile in the Bahamas, abortion in the third trimester of pregnancy, and the Pope and Bill O'Reilly join him on the show to talk about it.

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00:00:00.000 All right, on the podcast today, we have a great show.
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00:00:26.220 I already told him that.
00:00:27.040 I already told him that.
00:00:27.720 All right, okay, back off.
00:00:29.600 I wasn't listening.
00:00:30.500 Nobody ever listens to you.
00:00:32.000 Okay, on the podcast today, John McAfee in one of the weirdest, weirdest interviews
00:00:38.560 I think we've ever done.
00:00:40.800 He's, where did he say he was?
00:00:43.420 Definitely not Belize.
00:00:45.000 Bahamas.
00:00:45.400 Bahamas.
00:00:46.640 Don't go to Belize, John.
00:00:47.800 No, don't go to Belize if you're John McAfee.
00:00:49.820 He was in the Bahamas, and he's in exile, and he's running a U.S. presidential campaign,
00:00:56.860 and it is a bizarre interview, which strangely has a lot of truth in it as well.
00:01:02.560 We also talk about the governor in Virginia and abortion.
00:01:07.200 We actually went deep on that, and that really with the Pope, with what's happening in America,
00:01:16.460 what's happening around the world, and we brought Bill O'Reilly in on that as well.
00:01:21.360 And you don't want to miss it.
00:01:23.680 You don't want to miss it.
00:01:24.380 All on today's podcast.
00:01:31.260 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:35.500 I hope I can talk to all Americans, both left and right, both Republicans and Democrats
00:01:47.900 and independents, and I hope I can somehow or another moderate the language so everyone
00:01:59.320 can hear.
00:02:02.280 I have sworn off the word evil in the last few years.
00:02:07.960 I've tried to banish that word and only use it when there's just nothing else that could
00:02:15.220 describe it, because evil is a pretty heavy word.
00:02:21.040 And we've been bantering back and forth, oh, what's happening?
00:02:25.120 That's evil.
00:02:25.680 This person is evil, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.81
00:02:27.860 That's a pretty heavy charge.
00:02:31.180 I don't think there could be a worse label.
00:02:35.040 But I honestly don't know how to describe this other than evil.
00:02:41.100 We have so many people that are misguided or asleep in this country, and they are falling
00:02:49.420 into the clutches of evil, because, I don't know, maybe the party is pushing it, and they
00:02:59.020 don't want to do anything to upset the party.
00:03:01.060 Maybe they believe in part of it, and they don't see the rest of it.
00:03:05.680 I'm not sure why.
00:03:08.120 But I urge you to wake up on what is happening with abortion.
00:03:12.300 This isn't about a woman's right to choose. 0.97
00:03:17.500 It's not.
00:03:19.460 Let's just all assume that everybody, and this is the majority of people, that everybody agrees
00:03:26.480 that in the first trimester, if it's rape, incest, or life of the mother, we agree.
00:03:34.700 Now, not everybody agrees, but it is the majority of people.
00:03:41.440 So let's just leave it at that for now.
00:03:46.600 This is where the argument should be, because there's no reason when you get to birth of a
00:03:54.740 child.
00:03:56.020 We all know that's a child, and we all know that people have been saying, well, I don't
00:04:01.000 know if I would define that as a child, I, my children, I, I, I don't know when I would
00:04:06.280 define, come on, knock it off.
00:04:07.900 In the first trimester, before it's fully formed and everything else, okay, I can buy
00:04:13.820 into the fact that you don't know.
00:04:17.260 I can buy into the fact that I'm not sure when it starts to be, now that's not my opinion,
00:04:24.240 but I can be reasonable enough to understand that is your opinion.
00:04:31.020 But when you have a woman who is in labor, when you have a fully formed human that can 0.99
00:04:41.900 live outside of the, the woman's body, and worse yet, she's in labor and she says, oh, I 0.61
00:04:53.160 don't want this baby.
00:04:56.340 That's exactly what she says.
00:04:58.640 I don't want this baby.
00:05:01.800 We know it's a baby.
00:05:03.860 Now the laws are being changed in several states to say at that point, the woman can kill that 1.00
00:05:11.680 child.
00:05:12.980 But the governor of Virginia, I think take it, took it yesterday, even a step further.
00:05:19.680 Listen to this interview with the governor of Virginia now talking about the new law that
00:05:25.040 they're trying to get passed in Virginia about abortion at any time.
00:05:33.060 Here he is on WTOP radio.
00:05:35.320 When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously
00:05:41.960 the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
00:05:47.680 And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
00:05:51.440 There may be a fetus that's non-viable.
00:05:54.680 So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would 0.81
00:05:59.860 happen.
00:06:00.180 And the infant would be delivered.
00:06:02.840 The infant would be kept comfortable.
00:06:05.500 The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
00:06:10.540 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. 0.73
00:06:14.580 So I think this was really blown out of proportion.
00:06:17.740 But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.
00:06:22.600 We want the decision to be made.
00:06:24.440 Can we stop?
00:06:24.920 Did you hear what he said?
00:06:27.760 First of all, the baby is going to be horribly deformed.
00:06:31.320 You would know that.
00:06:32.620 You would know that in advance.
00:06:35.480 But even then, the child is horribly deformed.
00:06:40.460 Does that mean we don't care for that life?
00:06:43.760 And you'll notice what he said.
00:06:45.540 After the child is born, we can resuscitate if that's the family's wishes.
00:06:56.960 Wait a minute.
00:06:58.260 Wait a minute.
00:06:59.560 The cord is cut.
00:07:01.320 That's a separate human being now.
00:07:04.880 That's a separate human being.
00:07:07.360 You have a responsibility to resuscitate that child.
00:07:11.820 But we'll resuscitate it, and then we'll have a conversation about what to do.
00:07:17.180 We're now beyond birth.
00:07:21.600 And what's the conversation about what to do?
00:07:24.740 I mean, yes, you could say maybe one of those options is adoption.
00:07:27.780 Doesn't seem like it, though, in the text of this conversation.
00:07:31.560 He's saying we may or may not resuscitate him, basically, on what the mother decides she wants to do, which is crazy.
00:07:38.080 That's not what happens with human beings.
00:07:40.240 You know, the mother doesn't get to choose whether to resuscitate their children or not.
00:07:43.920 Especially when a woman, you're telling me that any human, any human that has gone through something as traumatic as just childbirth and everything went well, does anyone think they're thinking straight? 1.00
00:08:00.180 Does anybody?
00:08:01.260 Of course not.
00:08:01.780 Of course not.
00:08:02.620 And in theory, like in this example, which is a heavily deformed baby that's struggling, it would be even more emotional, though it does not seem to be limited to that. 0.92
00:08:12.660 He's using that as the most emotionally pleasing example to the audience, that it's a very deformed baby, which is a whole other bag of worms there. 0.97
00:08:21.240 Could we just stop, Stu?
00:08:22.680 Could you please read the section where it covers absolutely everything?
00:08:28.780 They always do this.
00:08:30.660 They always try to make it look like, oh, well, it's only in this case.
00:08:36.220 It's not.
00:08:37.760 And I am hearing from people all the time saying, where do I find the information of what is covered?
00:08:43.760 Well, in the bill.
00:08:45.340 And here it is.
00:08:47.660 Quote, this is the reason, because it's got to be health of the mother. 1.00
00:08:50.540 That's their out.
00:08:51.380 If it's life of the mother, they can't get anything because there's really no life of the mother thing, especially at nine months. 0.70
00:08:55.800 There's no...
00:08:56.260 And you're giving birth.
00:08:57.200 Yeah, you do an emergency C-section in that situation.
00:08:59.180 Right.
00:08:59.320 You don't do a...
00:09:00.320 I mean, it makes no sense to abort the child at that point.
00:09:03.080 And I think everybody's aware of that.
00:09:04.520 So they went to health of the mother.
00:09:06.020 And health of the mother was written up in row, and it was written up vaguely, which is why it's been a problem.
00:09:11.280 However, it was redefined and made more specific by a case after this, which was Doe versus Bolton, another case they went through.
00:09:18.200 And this is how it's defined and used in the law.
00:09:20.220 Quote, all factors, physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age, relevant to the well-being of the patient.
00:09:28.500 So you need to come up with an excuse that's affecting your health that falls into the category of all factors.
00:09:39.340 Anything that can possibly be a factor that could possibly talk about your health.
00:09:43.600 And this is what happened in the last clip we played the other day, which was them talking about one of the factors being the pain of childbirth.
00:09:51.440 If there's emotional stress while you're giving birth, that's enough to say, you know what, abort this thing.
00:09:56.200 If you are somebody who says that's a handicapped child, I can't deal with it, they'll kill it.
00:10:05.300 Familial.
00:10:05.880 I only have one job, and I don't have a husband.
00:10:09.940 Kill it.
00:10:10.620 The age.
00:10:12.220 Hey, I'm in a risk category, right?
00:10:14.840 I'm a little older or a little younger than I want to be.
00:10:17.100 Or I'm too young to raise a child.
00:10:21.400 Kill it.
00:10:21.840 I'm too old to raise a child.
00:10:24.200 Kill it.
00:10:24.580 Um, I don't have the familial structure.
00:10:28.160 I don't have anybody in the family to help me.
00:10:30.640 Kill it.
00:10:31.400 I, I'm going to be way too stressed out for this.
00:10:34.740 I'm just not mentally there to be able to do it.
00:10:38.360 Kill it.
00:10:38.860 Right.
00:10:39.080 And so let's, the realistic thing is what is happening here is they're trying to make it possible for a woman to do it at any point without having to say it's abortion on demand.
00:10:47.260 They could still say it's health, but it's all you have to do is come up with any reason that factors into any level of your health.
00:10:54.220 So all factors is legitimately the quote.
00:10:57.800 All factors.
00:10:59.560 You could, I mean, it doesn't have to be on that list.
00:11:01.560 All factors.
00:11:02.560 Come up with something.
00:11:03.500 You know what?
00:11:04.240 Uh, I feel like my nail might break.
00:11:05.920 I mean, really, it's to the point of any excuse that you feel as a woman is going to affect your health in any way is enough to kill a baby at, you know, five seconds before birth. 0.84
00:11:14.840 By the way, um, the, the Virginia governor said, and you know, more than just one doctor.
00:11:21.340 Uh, no, actually the law says that it doesn't even have to be a doctor.
00:11:25.360 It could be a nurse practitioner.
00:11:28.100 I will say, I think that, um, I, that's the New York state law.
00:11:31.600 I believe, uh, has that.
00:11:33.460 I don't know if the Virginia one has it.
00:11:34.960 The Virginia one may have, uh, as proposed a doctor.
00:11:38.040 So, but just to be, again, these are all laws that are passing at the same time that are all very similar.
00:11:42.900 There are some nuances between them, but the bottom line is they are trying to push this as far as possible.
00:11:51.280 And, you know, maybe beyond it, I think we would all say, you know, you, they bring up choice all the time and we would all say in theory, left, right.
00:11:58.620 Everybody would say after birth, that's not choice, right?
00:12:01.820 Like we all realize this is a, this is a baby and it would be murder.
00:12:04.800 It's every, every law in America, at least at this point would cover that.
00:12:09.500 And, and the idea is like, let's say we were in, we're on talk radio.
00:12:14.240 We're talking about abortion.
00:12:14.980 We don't like it.
00:12:15.860 And let's just say the heavens opened up and God lowered himself down and said, Glenn, Glenn.
00:12:22.660 Yes, God.
00:12:23.660 Glenn, I really appreciate all of this work you're doing fighting abortion and everything.
00:12:28.880 But I have to tell you, you've been misled.
00:12:31.460 I think it's awesome.
00:12:32.960 Why do you sound like a cartoon?
00:12:34.320 I don't know.
00:12:35.580 And I'm not echoing, even though my voice is billowing, billowing, billowing, billowing.
00:12:39.900 So if that happened, right.
00:12:41.420 And God came down and said, you know what?
00:12:42.800 I appreciate your efforts here.
00:12:44.340 Abortion.
00:12:44.840 I understand why you thought it was a big problem, but honestly, until it's born, I don't really care.
00:12:48.260 If he said that, and it was real, we would, every conservative on earth that believes in these things would probably be like, oh, okay.
00:12:54.980 Well, yeah, whatever.
00:12:55.580 Women go ahead. 1.00
00:12:56.320 Do you do whatever you want?
00:12:57.020 On the other side, if Chris Cuomo or whatever deity is on the left came down from the heavens and said, Gary, guess what?
00:13:04.600 Abortion's really bad.
00:13:05.780 And it is actually killing a life.
00:13:07.280 And they were convinced by it.
00:13:08.620 In theory, they would say, okay, well, I guess it is a life, so we should probably not allow that.
00:13:13.620 It's about when the baby is a baby.
00:13:15.520 It's not about choice.
00:13:17.160 You're just, you're, the choice thing is a complete, a completely ridiculous argument.
00:13:21.680 We have no problem as conservatives letting, allowing women legally to remove clumps of cells, plastic surgery, removing tumors.
00:13:31.080 None of these things matter to us because we don't care.
00:13:33.260 Women can make whatever choice they want for their own bodies. 1.00
00:13:36.300 This isn't your own body.
00:13:37.680 There is another body.
00:13:39.680 And that body is the one that doesn't have a voice and needs to be protected by law.
00:13:43.140 That's what, that's what the right to life is about.
00:13:45.240 And this time, now we're entering, it's out of the body.
00:13:48.940 Out of the body.
00:13:49.380 Just want to take you back to 1933.
00:13:51.800 Even the Germans that voted for Adolf Hitler, they voted for Hitler. 0.90
00:13:59.340 They even stood up at this point and said, I don't care how deformed.
00:14:06.700 Gotta stop.
00:14:08.280 Gotta stop.
00:14:09.940 Now, he said he would.
00:14:11.660 He didn't.
00:14:13.200 And look where they ended up.
00:14:14.900 I'm telling you, if we don't stand against this profound evil, we are going to make the Nazis look like rookies.
00:14:25.920 Please, please.
00:14:27.820 I'm begging you.
00:14:28.920 We're now talking about babies.
00:14:31.960 We're not talking about the difference.
00:14:33.860 I believe it's life.
00:14:35.040 You don't believe it's life at conception.
00:14:37.500 You don't believe it's life at the first trimester.
00:14:39.780 Okay, all right.
00:14:41.100 That's not what we're talking about here.
00:14:43.200 That's not what we're discussing.
00:14:47.620 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:14:49.620 May I take you someplace kind of fun and interesting?
00:15:00.620 There is, because we're, you know, who's pushing this kind of stuff?
00:15:04.180 The Uber left.
00:15:05.400 Yes.
00:15:05.580 And who's the hero of the Uber left right now?
00:15:08.660 Of course, it's AOC.
00:15:11.080 Right.
00:15:11.880 Okay.
00:15:12.420 AOC.
00:15:12.880 And we have to call her AOC now.
00:15:14.980 So, Ocasio-Cortez is the left's Sarah Palin on stupid steroids. 1.00
00:15:31.740 Okay.
00:15:32.660 And she's not getting any heat.
00:15:35.000 I want to take you back to SNL and watch the monitors.
00:15:38.920 Listen, you know, if you're listening on radio.
00:15:41.940 But if you happen to be watching, watch the screen.
00:15:45.460 This is SNL in 2011 with a character.
00:15:51.320 If she doesn't look, sound, and speak almost like it's an Ocasio-Cortez character,
00:16:01.300 I don't know what it is.
00:16:05.160 Watch.
00:16:05.940 Here with her opinions is the girl you wish hadn't started a conversation with at a party.
00:16:11.940 Hey, Seth.
00:16:16.800 Welcome back.
00:16:17.580 All right.
00:16:17.980 Well, thank you.
00:16:19.340 So, are you excited about the holidays?
00:16:21.660 Excited?
00:16:22.540 I'm repulsed, Seth.
00:16:24.560 All this mercilism around Christmas, it's an outrage.
00:16:29.440 It's a tragedy.
00:16:31.040 It's like, what are we even doing?
00:16:33.380 And, like, why?
00:16:34.580 And, like, don't.
00:16:35.720 No, you really seem like you're in the Christmas spirit.
00:16:39.940 You mean the Christmas spirit?
00:16:42.260 Oh, right.
00:16:43.240 You don't care about Jesus because you worship Hallmark.
00:16:46.500 Oh, boy.
00:16:47.040 You need to wake up and smell the music, Seth.
00:16:52.940 There are homeless people out there who can't even pay their mortgages.
00:16:57.440 Is that what George Washington had in mind when we started America?
00:17:04.820 It's like, read something, Seth.
00:17:06.880 Learn a book.
00:17:09.220 Learn it?
00:17:10.500 Fact.
00:17:11.260 For every five people who are hungry, there are five people who are too full.
00:17:16.300 It's like, switch stomachs.
00:17:18.640 And, fact, for every four men, there are two women. 0.94
00:17:24.880 And that's just supposed to be subtable?
00:17:27.300 No.
00:17:28.880 We need bipartisan ships. 1.00
00:17:33.180 Bipartisan ships? 0.97
00:17:34.440 Like, ships that are bipartisan?
00:17:37.240 Like, ships that are bipartisan?
00:17:40.320 You need to grow up, Seth.
00:17:42.720 Because there are some people in Africa right now where it's like, no.
00:17:48.640 Also, I'm sorry.
00:17:51.180 Why can't Secret Santa just be openly gay? 0.99
00:17:58.900 My hello is 2010.
00:18:03.320 Hold on.
00:18:04.680 Hold on.
00:18:05.900 This is not my phone.
00:18:08.920 Okay.
00:18:10.560 Stop.
00:18:11.280 Can I do a minstrel show real quick?
00:18:12.600 No.
00:18:13.100 Okay, fine.
00:18:13.840 You're reverse racist.
00:18:15.500 That's even worse.
00:18:17.740 Ingrid!
00:18:18.640 Ingrid!
00:18:19.660 I hate her.
00:18:21.280 Stop.
00:18:22.680 What'd you ask for for Christmas?
00:18:24.000 I don't want to tell you.
00:18:24.940 Would you relax?
00:18:25.860 I'm just asking what you want for Christmas.
00:18:27.560 Okay, well, I was hoping to get the new iPad.
00:18:29.500 I asked for an end to genocide.
00:18:31.300 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:18:37.120 That is AOC.
00:18:39.060 Tell me.
00:18:39.840 That is AOC.
00:18:40.220 Tell me that that, if she were on the other side, if that character wouldn't be on every single week. 1.00
00:18:48.060 Oh, yeah.
00:18:48.660 That is Cortez.
00:18:50.780 That's what they did to Sarah Palin.
00:18:54.520 Okay?
00:18:55.420 Obviously, obviously Cortez is not, well.
00:18:58.520 Okay, I can't say she's not that stupid, but I don't have verification.
00:19:05.780 Over the past decade, we've been privy to a golden age of marketing and advertising and publicity,
00:19:11.600 and we've seen some pretty impressive campaigns that, without them, the brands we know of today might not still be around.
00:19:19.680 Apple dared us to be the crazy ones, followed it with Think Different, and Apple exploded.
00:19:25.180 Tinder created their dating app and then sent their co-founder directly to college frats and sororities all over the country to kick it off.
00:19:33.300 Which brings me to another bold marketing campaign.
00:19:36.240 A guy who has decided to run for president of the United States, and his campaign slogan is,
00:19:42.120 Don't vote for me.
00:19:45.540 Okay.
00:19:47.520 He says the two-party system created a voting process, which is an illusion,
00:19:52.080 and a government that fluctuates between two extremes,
00:19:54.800 and each extreme annulling any progress made by the opposition in the prior administration.
00:20:00.580 It's a government gone insane, and we're powerless to create any real change if we are continuing this system.
00:20:09.520 He believes in small government, personal autonomy,
00:20:12.000 and he thinks that Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will one day be the major catalyst for shrinking the federal government.
00:20:17.080 His name is John McAfee, and he decided to make his case for small government on the run from federal authorities.
00:20:26.460 He is now joining us on a yacht somewhere in international waters where he is on the run from U.S. authorities.
00:20:37.340 Welcome to the program, John McAfee.
00:20:40.040 Well, thank you very much, Glenn.
00:20:41.480 And my first question is, are we under FCC rules?
00:20:44.940 Yes, we are.
00:20:45.540 We're live on the air.
00:20:46.620 Okay.
00:20:47.120 Well, good.
00:20:47.520 Because all the banned words I have alternatives for, and I try on every radio show to use all of them.
00:20:54.100 They're far worse than the banned words.
00:20:56.460 Oh, boy.
00:20:57.880 Now, why would you do this to me?
00:20:59.480 We don't want to be on the run from authorities.
00:21:00.880 No, no, no.
00:21:01.880 You won't get fined.
00:21:02.880 You won't get fined, I don't think.
00:21:04.840 I mean, for example, last night we were at the bar here.
00:21:06.860 I don't, I don't, I don't.
00:21:07.760 And everybody was gone, and I porked my wife on the pool table. 0.99
00:21:11.940 Okay, thank you very much.
00:21:13.220 Now, John, let's have a conversation.
00:21:17.040 First of all, why are you on the run from the authorities?
00:21:21.340 Oh, my God.
00:21:22.120 It's so long story, Glenn.
00:21:23.040 Right now, on the 22nd of January, the IRS convened a grand jury charging myself, my wife, Janice, and four of my campaign workers with unspecified crimes.
00:21:37.760 But we were the subject of the grand jury.
00:21:39.540 I found, I found out about it way in advance and was verified by two of my lawyers who had received subpoenas.
00:21:47.140 I'm not sure it was legal that they, they sent me information that they, you know, that they had been subpoenaed.
00:21:52.640 One was a real estate attorney and another was a trust attorney.
00:21:55.700 So on the 22nd, they did, in fact, convene a grand jury.
00:21:59.040 I've heard nothing.
00:21:59.660 Now, I did leave the country and declared that a grand jury would be convened on the 22nd.
00:22:07.680 So maybe the prosecutor, you know, got the indictment, but he's keeping it secret, or maybe they're still deliberating.
00:22:14.220 Again, I do not know what the charges are other than they have to be felonies.
00:22:18.340 We do not convene grand juries for misdemeanors.
00:22:21.560 Now, you claim you haven't paid income taxes, and I believe you, in eight years.
00:22:29.800 That's correct, but that's not a crime, sir.
00:22:34.020 Committing fraud, lying, for example, about income taxes.
00:22:38.260 But if I didn't say anything, I could not lie.
00:22:40.640 I just didn't file.
00:22:42.560 Right, but you've made money in the last eight years.
00:22:46.560 Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe not.
00:22:48.380 I mean, I haven't added it up yet.
00:22:50.180 Yeah.
00:22:51.560 Right, yeah, yeah.
00:22:52.520 Okay, well, you're on a yacht right now.
00:22:54.960 Well, you know, I mean, it's hard to say what a fortune's net worth is with all these complex arrangements.
00:23:01.580 Sure.
00:23:02.840 Ownership and loans and what have you.
00:23:05.120 Sure, sure.
00:23:06.700 You're also a big believer in cryptocurrency.
00:23:09.640 So does your fight against the IRS, the way I understood it was it was about cryptocurrency,
00:23:18.260 and you said, you know, that's beyond your jurisdiction.
00:23:21.840 But A, is that true, and B, does that also then include, you know, treasury notes and cash and digits in the regular non-virtual world?
00:23:35.780 Well, I think it was crypto that did, in fact, get me in trouble.
00:23:40.400 I have not paid taxes in eight years because I don't believe that income taxes are legal.
00:23:46.760 They are unconstitutional.
00:23:47.960 We had no income taxes prior to the Civil War, and suddenly in 1913, this monumental weight is dropped on our shoulders where we now have to work for the government for a period of time every year.
00:24:04.520 I mean, that's basically slavery, and this is a libertarian, well, sort of an extreme libertarian view.
00:24:10.780 I was going to say, I mean, I'm a libertarian, and I don't like income tax, and I want it cut, and I want it reversed, and I agree with you on 1913.
00:24:20.320 Where did all of this come from?
00:24:22.240 However, I still pay income tax.
00:24:25.100 And you're free to do so.
00:24:26.580 Right.
00:24:26.760 I mean, we're all adults in this world.
00:24:28.300 Sure.
00:24:28.900 But I'm out saying, you know, income taxes are illegal.
00:24:32.620 I'm paying them all.
00:24:33.560 Good God.
00:24:34.420 Why don't we walk the walk?
00:24:36.740 For me.
00:24:37.560 Okay.
00:24:37.980 So you are on the run, and what was striking to me is I watched your first video from the yacht, and you laid out your case and why you were leaving, and you said you were going to Venezuela.
00:24:51.500 And you were the first to come to mind when I saw the riots in Venezuela and what's coming.
00:24:57.920 You said you were going to run your presidential campaign, which we'll get to here in a second, from Venezuela.
00:25:06.000 Well, yes, I did say that.
00:25:07.600 And I did say I was also off the coast of Nova Scotia for a while.
00:25:11.100 I'm a computer security expert.
00:25:15.080 The greatest talent a person can have is disinformation.
00:25:22.540 I was leaving the United States.
00:25:24.540 I had no idea whether the IRS was trying to stop me or what have you.
00:25:29.980 And so I just laid a false trail.
00:25:32.520 I am, in fact, and I've already told people about it, in Georgetown, in the Exumas, in the Bahamas.
00:25:39.320 It's a town of 900 people.
00:25:41.800 I've been here dozens of times before.
00:25:43.760 I know everyone, and I have a Bahamian attorney who will, if the IRS tries to extradite me, who will hear my case.
00:25:55.600 All U.S. extradition treaties exclude political crimes or crimes that might be politically motivated.
00:26:05.280 Now, if this is not a politically motivated crime, I don't know what it is.
00:26:08.960 I've been doing keynote speeches all over the world saying that when privacy coins and distributed exchanges mesh together and people begin to use them, governments will no longer be able to collect income taxes.
00:26:26.680 Unless everybody is honest and said, yeah, I made, you know, $300 million this year, which I do not believe.
00:26:33.160 So, and I further say, and this is a good thing.
00:26:37.160 And then I go on to say there is nothing the governments can do about it.
00:26:41.240 There is no physical, mathematical, legal way to stop this from happening.
00:26:48.120 It's a new technology.
00:26:49.180 So, I promote this relief.
00:26:51.520 I think it is good.
00:26:52.680 I don't believe in income taxes, so, of course, this is good.
00:26:55.980 Well, the IRS does believe in income taxes.
00:26:59.160 And I am the tallest tree in the forest yelling.
00:27:01.780 So, they figure if they cut me down, it will send a wave of fear throughout the rest of the cryptoverse.
00:27:10.360 In any case, my Bahamian attorney says, no problem.
00:27:12.580 Okay, well, I mean, your Bahamian attorney, I'm not necessarily buying into because you said you were into disinformation.
00:27:20.780 And the story you tell us about being in the Bahamas is exactly what someone would say, trying to disinform that you were off the coast of Venezuela.
00:27:29.080 So, you know.
00:27:30.280 The story does hang together, does it not?
00:27:32.920 It does, it does, it does.
00:27:34.800 John McAfee's slogan as he's running for president is, don't vote for me.
00:27:40.400 So, is this a serious run for president?
00:27:47.220 Well, that's a difficult question.
00:27:49.500 I ran in 2016 on the Libertarian banner.
00:27:54.040 I don't think any candidate was serious.
00:27:56.240 Do you actually believe, sir, that any Libertarian had a chance of winning in 2016 or would have a chance of winning in 2020?
00:28:04.900 I actually do, but not the, I actually do, but not the way this, the system is working now and the candidates that they, they necessarily run.
00:28:15.680 But even if they ran, if Jesus himself, the two-party system, which controls everything, just won't allow it.
00:28:24.780 Well, I have to tell you that if it was Jesus, he actually controls everything.
00:28:28.260 So, I think he'd be in the short circuit.
00:28:30.400 But other than Jesus, you may be right.
00:28:32.320 Well, maybe.
00:28:33.180 Well, he reports to God.
00:28:34.280 Anyway, so, we would have these debates, and people would say, Mr. McAfee, what will you do on your first day in office?
00:28:44.240 And on the last debate, I finally said I had enough.
00:28:46.940 I said, listen, I'm not going to have a first day in office.
00:28:49.900 None of us are going to have a first day in office.
00:28:52.300 Do you see how silly we look to the world?
00:28:55.560 That we're actually believing we might get elected to presidency.
00:29:00.380 It's not going to happen.
00:29:01.800 Let's do something else, please.
00:29:03.480 When you can run, we can change people's minds.
00:29:07.420 In all truth, I think that the campaign for presidency changes America far more than selecting a president.
00:29:17.480 Because when you select a president, that person becomes bound, tied, and beholden to the establishment which created his position.
00:29:30.500 So, I don't want to be president.
00:29:32.940 I want to stay, Jim.
00:29:34.140 So, John, I actually think a lot of Americans agree with that.
00:29:39.480 And I think that that is the people are changing and starting to turn against the system itself, which I think in itself is healthy.
00:29:49.280 It's what George Washington begged Americans to do in his farewell address.
00:29:53.420 Stay away from the two-party system.
00:29:55.520 So, I mean, I think that we are on the verge of profound change in everything, in governments, in borders, in money, finance, technology, communication.
00:30:11.140 Everything is going to change by 2030.
00:30:13.540 Well, I agree.
00:30:15.880 Do you know any millennials, for example?
00:30:18.440 One of my campaign workers is a millennial, and she convinced me to use an avi, an avatar, for my picture.
00:30:26.120 Well, I wasn't happy, so I had half real, half avatar.
00:30:29.840 I probably got 2,000 people going, he's got an avi.
00:30:32.720 I'm going to vote for him.
00:30:34.160 I'm serious.
00:30:34.720 But it's like, it's spooky.
00:30:40.480 But here's the problem.
00:30:42.020 I am a computer security expert.
00:30:44.200 At least that's what they tell me.
00:30:45.440 I mean, if you Google cybersecurity legend, I'm the only person who shows up in the top of 100 results.
00:30:52.100 So I must know something.
00:30:53.680 What I do know is we don't know the truth.
00:30:57.060 I mean, people ask, what would you do to fix this problem, fix that problem?
00:31:02.160 Do we know what that problem is?
00:31:04.560 No, sir.
00:31:05.700 I mean, we are given baby food by our government, laced with some sort of strange hallucinogenic, which makes us believe everything we're told.
00:31:16.400 But it's not true.
00:31:17.620 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:31:18.840 I just, talking to you, I don't know if you mean things literally or not.
00:31:22.820 I'm sorry?
00:31:23.360 I don't know if you meant that literally or not.
00:31:26.420 No, I did not, no, sir.
00:31:27.560 I did not mean that literally.
00:31:28.480 Okay, okay, okay.
00:31:29.280 I'm not that crazy.
00:31:30.460 Okay, I just wanted to know.
00:31:31.600 I mean, well, let me ask you this question.
00:31:33.560 Let me ask you this question.
00:31:34.760 You made a statement, I think, about a year ago about having your way with a whale.
00:31:40.960 And was that just a shock thing, or is that real?
00:31:46.840 Please, God, would you consider how on earth would a person, I mean, and the whale I described was a humpback, you know, 70,000 pounds, 50 feet long.
00:31:59.720 How would you actually accomplish that, and why?
00:32:02.400 Okay, no, I don't.
00:32:03.620 Well, I don't know.
00:32:05.180 I don't know with you.
00:32:06.760 I don't know.
00:32:08.160 Okay.
00:32:08.600 I'm glad to hear that.
00:32:10.860 I'm glad to hear that.
00:32:11.880 God almighty, sir, if I was going to have sex with an animal, I think the whale would be the last I would choose, and I have no interest in any animal.
00:32:18.660 Okay, good.
00:32:19.400 I just, it's good to hear.
00:32:21.720 I'm just glad we could clear that up.
00:32:23.340 I'm glad we could clear that up.
00:32:24.440 I see how you make points, but not everybody necessarily thinks that you're just making a point.
00:32:37.360 Well, here's the point.
00:32:38.520 The point I'm making is, how gullible are we, people?
00:32:42.080 I thought, well, how many people will believe that I'm out there porking a whale?
00:32:45.720 Let's try it.
00:32:47.120 We're heart positive.
00:32:48.240 I'm serious.
00:32:49.060 It's like, that's also very spooky.
00:32:50.860 Okay, so, John, we're talking to John McAfee.
00:32:56.240 Can we talk a little bit about cybersecurity here and the real problem?
00:33:01.080 I fear that voices are going to be snuffed out.
00:33:06.960 They already are.
00:33:07.960 But a basic digital ghettoization to where you can talk all you want, but you're behind a wall created by Google, Facebook, Yahoo, or, you know, any of these players.
00:33:21.200 And I also see this merging of mainstream media along with government and these big corporations.
00:33:31.580 Yes, yes, that's scary, is it not?
00:33:34.380 It's scary.
00:33:35.120 And you're seeing things like, you know, by the way, Alex Jones is a very good friend of mine.
00:33:40.840 Sorry for that.
00:33:41.680 Hang on, I don't believe a single thing that he says or believes.
00:33:46.120 However, he's a party animal and he likes guns.
00:33:49.520 And every time I'm with him, I have fun.
00:33:51.980 So, they simultaneously, on the same day, shot him down on Facebook, Twitter, not Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and whatever else he was on.
00:34:02.100 That had to be a coordinated act from somebody.
00:34:06.720 Should it?
00:34:07.280 It wasn't it?
00:34:08.280 Well, I'm not sure if it, so you know, I stood against him being banned.
00:34:13.660 I don't have any respect.
00:34:15.080 I think he's a really crazy guy.
00:34:18.780 So am I.
00:34:19.800 And maybe you are at home.
00:34:21.320 I don't know.
00:34:21.940 We don't know each other.
00:34:22.720 Right.
00:34:23.000 But he should not have been, he should not have been de-platformed like that.
00:34:26.980 You cannot, you can't silence speech in America.
00:34:30.360 With that being said, I'm not sure it was coordinated as much as it is groupthink.
00:34:39.860 Somebody has the balls to do it, and they all kind of just groupthink.
00:34:43.380 Yeah, we've got to do that, too.
00:34:44.280 Oh, yeah.
00:34:44.740 YouTube did it good.
00:34:45.720 We'll take our chance to do it, too.
00:34:47.240 I don't know.
00:34:48.280 But, no, that's scary.
00:34:49.460 That's very scary.
00:34:50.760 Because no matter how crazy someone is, who is the judge of that insanity?
00:34:56.420 I mean, as someone who is self-knowledgeable to the point that they accept all of the bad things about themselves, speak openly about them, have no lies, they are completely honest with everybody, they sound crazy if you think about it.
00:35:15.400 I mean, at a dinner party, people are all protected and dressed up and have a facade, and there's someone wandering around talking about things that you would never dream of talking about in public.
00:35:25.720 Now, is that person crazy or just self-aware?
00:35:29.780 We don't have the right to judge.
00:35:33.900 John, it's fascinating to talk to you.
00:35:38.920 I'm glad to hear about the whale thing and excited to see where you go next.
00:35:43.760 We're out of time, but I would like to talk to you again.
00:35:46.000 Thank you so much, and best of luck.
00:35:48.580 Don't vote for him.
00:35:49.440 Thank you.
00:35:49.700 This is the slogan, and his name is John McAfee.
00:35:54.760 You can find him at mcafemcafemcafee2020hq.com.
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00:36:10.260 Hi, it's Glenn.
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00:36:32.560 Welcome to the program, Bill O'Reilly.
00:36:34.760 And, Bill, I want to start with this audio from the governor of Virginia yesterday on WTOP Radio.
00:36:43.780 Listen.
00:36:44.460 When we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously,
00:36:50.820 the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
00:36:55.940 And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
00:37:00.200 There may be a fetus that's non-viable.
00:37:03.420 So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
00:37:09.400 The infant would be delivered.
00:37:11.540 The infant would be kept comfortable.
00:37:14.220 The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
00:37:19.260 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. 0.73
00:37:23.140 So I think this was really blown out of proportion.
00:37:26.440 But, again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.
00:37:31.420 We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers.
00:37:36.240 And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way,
00:37:41.160 shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.
00:37:45.060 Okay.
00:37:45.280 So after a child is born, the cord is cut immediately, and it's no longer her body.
00:37:51.000 But you'll notice, he said, the child would be kept comfortable while a discussion ensued on what to do.
00:37:57.920 Bill O'Reilly.
00:38:00.020 Okay.
00:38:01.460 When we spoke last October, when my book came out, you asked me, why did you write Killing SS?
00:38:08.480 Do you remember that?
00:38:09.280 Yes, I do.
00:38:10.520 Do you remember what my answer was?
00:38:12.520 Yeah, because we're seeing it happen again.
00:38:14.480 I wrote it because I wanted people to understand evil, Americans particularly. 1.00
00:38:23.440 All right.
00:38:24.120 Fast forward to this moron in Virginia who is unbelievably stupid.
00:38:31.820 I have never heard a politician as ignorant as this man is.
00:38:35.860 So he basically is saying, after a woman gives birth, if the woman and the doctors don't like what has come out of the womb,
00:38:52.460 they can kill it, murder it.
00:38:57.160 And they'll discuss it, the pros and cons of, well, you know, maybe the deformant, you know, might not go over too well in school.
00:39:07.040 Well, you know, okay.
00:39:09.540 So you're looking at yourself going, this is a lie because ultrasound now shows the baby in totality.
00:39:18.180 Yep.
00:39:18.540 There isn't any surprise when the baby is birthed.
00:39:21.120 Correct.
00:39:21.560 So the governor of Virginia just told a lie to everybody.
00:39:25.280 It's a lie.
00:39:27.060 All right.
00:39:27.940 So what is the governor of Virginia basically saying?
00:39:32.060 He's saying exactly what Joseph Mengele, the angel of death in Auschwitz, said.
00:39:38.380 There's no difference.
00:39:40.540 He's saying, you know, if we really, the state of Virginia, the commonwealth of Virginia,
00:39:46.400 if we don't really want to get involved, whether a mother and a doctor don't believe the baby deserves to live,
00:39:58.780 well, you know, we're going to let that baby lie on a hospital bed, 1.00
00:40:07.960 and we're going to let the doctor drill a hole in its head because we think maybe the deformity or maybe the whatever it may be that we knew about,
00:40:22.620 we already knew about that, well, we decided we don't get to do that.
00:40:27.000 So barbaric doesn't even come close.
00:40:31.820 This is murder.
00:40:33.400 You cannot justify it in any Judeo-Christian nation, and it is happening right before our eyes. 0.99
00:40:43.400 Bill, is there any doubt if America doesn't wake up with the technology that we have,
00:40:50.500 that we will bring darkness that will make the Nazis look like good guys in the end? 0.90
00:41:00.180 Well, I don't know about that.
00:41:01.380 Really? But I do know that the darkness is already here.
00:41:05.620 Right.
00:41:06.240 It's already here. It's not coming. It's already here. Let me give you another example.
00:41:10.200 But if we don't wake up and shake out of it now, what depths, if this is what we're doing when we're supposedly semi-conscious,
00:41:20.220 what will happen when there is no fight against it anymore?
00:41:25.860 Well, Americans, if you look at the television ratings, which I have in the last three or four days on the almost minute by minute basis,
00:41:37.920 when the abortion discussion comes on, the ratings go down big time.
00:41:46.960 And that tells me that Americans are looking away.
00:41:54.040 They don't want to hear this.
00:41:55.800 They don't want to be involved with it.
00:41:57.200 It doesn't pertain to me.
00:41:58.120 I'm not going to do it.
00:42:00.060 Well, I don't really care if they do it in Virginia or New York, because I live in Ohio or I live in Minnesota.
00:42:05.540 So I'm not I'm not going to sit there and listen to this is just too disturbing, too depressing.
00:42:12.180 I'm going to pick up my machine and text or play a game or do what I do.
00:42:17.100 That's what's happening, Beck.
00:42:19.540 So in New York, the Roman Catholic governor of the state signs a law that says you can now do what the governor of Virginia wants to do in New York.
00:42:33.460 And we will not prosecute you no matter what you do.
00:42:38.640 So you remember this guy, guys, now the movie about him in Pennsylvania, an abortion doctor was basically birthing the babies and killing them.
00:42:47.040 That's how he was doing it, because he was so incompetent.
00:42:50.260 He couldn't do it in the womb.
00:42:51.320 So he just birthed them and killed them.
00:42:53.340 He went to prison.
00:42:54.480 But Cuomo, knowing that, said, you know, we're not going to do that because anything to do with abortion, even after its birth,
00:43:01.500 is no longer a criminal statute, no longer comes under the criminal justice system in the state of New York.
00:43:08.700 It's a civil thing.
00:43:10.700 That's in the law.
00:43:12.980 So, Bill, you know, you know that the T4 project from the Nazis, 0.83
00:43:18.960 where they were gassing the handicapped, the babies, anything that was costing the state money,
00:43:28.160 that was happening mainly in secret, because the people of Germany, at first, they said it was, I think it was Baby Nock, was it?
00:43:39.920 What was the name of the baby, Stu?
00:43:41.860 Do you remember?
00:43:42.820 The first baby that was killed, Naur, Baby Naur, was killed compassionately, 0.99
00:43:49.540 because Hitler said, well, I've had my doctors look at this child,
00:43:54.900 and the parents are just going to go through something horrific,
00:43:58.940 and nobody should have the kind of life that this child would have,
00:44:03.140 nor should the parents have this kind of life.
00:44:05.800 So we're going to compassionately put it down.
00:44:08.240 That opened the door to start doctors to start killing deformed children, etc., etc.
00:44:15.260 But there came a point, and it was early on, that the German people did not look away, 0.58
00:44:22.080 and they stood up and they said, this has got to stop.
00:44:26.320 It was too late to really stop it, but it went on.
00:44:31.380 And even Hitler came out and said, you're right, you're right, we don't do that, keep doing that, guys. 0.92
00:44:36.080 And they did it in secret.
00:44:38.240 We're not even stepping up to the plate.
00:44:41.600 I mean, the German people at least said stop.
00:44:45.440 There's a political party, the Democrats, that think this is great.
00:44:48.760 Well, there were the Nazis that thought it was great. 0.78
00:44:51.480 The Nazis thought it was great.
00:44:53.300 Let's extend it away from the Nazis into China. 0.76
00:44:57.220 Okay.
00:44:57.500 Where they have a one-baby policy. 0.80
00:45:02.240 And if you have more than one baby, a state can come in and abort it.
00:45:08.220 And if you secretly give birth to it, they can take the baby. 0.59
00:45:11.600 Oh, they do, and they kill it.
00:45:13.980 Okay.
00:45:14.620 So right now, on the planet, 1.5 billion people are subjected to a law that the state says,
00:45:21.960 you have one baby, that's it.
00:45:24.140 You got any more?
00:45:25.180 We're going to get rid of it.
00:45:26.020 Now, we're not going to do that in America, but what we have done here is we have desensitized
00:45:32.800 the 325 million Americans that are living under the Constitution, desensitized them so much
00:45:41.160 that the governor of Virginia can sit there in Richmond and say that,
00:45:44.800 and there's not 50,000 people today out there condemning him in a demonstration.
00:45:51.240 So you can get 10,000 women marchers to accuse Trump of everything under the sun,
00:46:00.020 but you can't get anybody in front of the capitals in Albany and Richmond to say,
00:46:06.800 you know what, we don't really think murder is a good idea of babies.
00:46:09.760 That's not really what our values are here.
00:46:11.620 You can't get that.
00:46:15.460 And that's a sad, sad situation that we're in here in the United States right now.
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