The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： John Solomon & Rebekah Koffler ｜ 8⧸22⧸22

00:00:00.000 Hey, Stu. Hey, it's Monday.

00:00:03.480 Hi, Glenn.

00:00:04.180 Hi. What a great Monday. What a great Monday podcast we had for people today.

00:00:09.620 We have the New York Times talking about getting away from the old Constitution.

00:00:15.920 In fact, we really should just legislate everything and get rid of the whole judicial process.

00:00:22.060 Everything we've accused them of over the years, they're now admitting.

00:00:24.980 Yeah. We also had John Solomon on to talk to us a little bit about what was happening at Mar-a-Lago and what the president is going to do now that the judge said they have to release all of the warrant.

00:00:42.320 Will the DOJ do it? We have that answer for you. And what is going to be the response?

00:00:47.760 Don't forget to subscribe, blazetv.com slash Glenn. Promo code is Glenn for $10 off your subscription.

00:00:53.180 And make sure to subscribe, rate, and review to this podcast and Stu Does America as well.

00:00:56.880 And the last part of the podcast is on Alexander Dukin, Russia, and our response.

00:01:03.440 A point of view you're not going to hear anywhere else.

00:01:06.980 So enjoy the podcast and thanks for listening.

00:01:09.920 Let me tell you about Goldline.

00:01:11.120 Something amazing. Tons of Americans still don't know that it is possible to use your retirement account to acquire precious metals.

00:01:19.380 And you could be saving up for retirement and building a protective wall against inflation and other forms of insanity.

00:01:28.660 Did you see that one of the main banks said cash is a good position right now?

00:01:34.000 Meaning that people are expecting a very dark fall.

00:01:38.540 Well, that's all the experts. And the experts are always wrong.

00:01:41.860 So I don't know what to believe right now.

00:01:44.260 Anyway, please hedge your bet by calling Goldline.

00:01:48.360 Let them help you out with your retirement funds to make sure you have some protection.

00:01:52.940 Even 10% of what you have.

00:01:55.640 Just please consider precious metals.

00:01:59.000 Call Goldline today.

00:02:00.180 Tell them I sent you and give them the promo code MYB, which represents Mind Your Business Silver Bars.

00:02:07.740 They've got free silver just for calling right now.

00:02:10.560 Just call 866-GOLDLINE.

00:02:13.020 866-GOLDLINE or goldline.com.

00:02:16.760 Here's the podcast.

00:02:24.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:02:28.940 All right.

00:02:32.900 I want to start with a positive today.

00:02:36.720 I want to start with something that I think you need to understand.

00:02:41.920 When you look at the world, you know, Stu and I were just talking about Alexander Dugan.

00:02:47.000 And I don't think people have gotten the message yet on Alexander Dugan.

00:02:52.660 But we've been talking about him.

00:02:54.040 I've been talking about him for, what, four years, five years?

00:02:57.160 Yeah.

00:02:57.940 At least?

00:02:58.800 And what he's been trying to do, not only in Russia, but all over the world.

00:03:02.800 Right.

00:03:03.620 He's a guy who's seen as someone who's on the right, a figure of the right.

00:03:07.720 I've heard everyone calling him a figure of the right.

00:03:09.860 But I don't think that's appropriate.

00:03:11.700 Certainly not in the American understanding of the right.

00:03:13.920 No.

00:03:14.600 He is a capital T traditionalist. 0.87

00:03:17.540 So I'm a small T traditionalist.

00:03:20.200 I believe in traditional values.

00:03:22.940 Sure.

00:03:23.140 I believe in.

00:03:24.060 But he is a capital T traditionalist, which is an actual movement.

00:03:28.660 That is his movement is the the what is it?

00:03:34.520 The fourth political theory.

00:03:36.020 And it is based on, strangely, strong man and chaos.

00:03:43.440 He believes that chaos is the way to be able to have Russia rule the world. 1.00

00:03:50.180 And he is currently working and pouring money all over the world, including here in America.

00:03:56.500 If you ever hear him on the air with a host, you should question what you believe about that host.

00:04:02.500 This man is, I believe, one of the most dangerous men, if not the most dangerous men in the world.

00:04:11.100 He believes he has to bring on Armageddon to be able to have Russia become the global leader. 0.92

00:04:20.920 So he is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:04:25.020 He is also looking for the collapse and the destruction of America as we know it.

00:04:30.580 Um, so he is not a figure on the right. 0.95

00:04:35.120 He he's a he's a he's a fascist. 0.86

00:04:38.300 He believes the only thing that Hitler did wrong was he didn't go far enough.

00:04:44.180 These are from his writings, by the way.

00:04:46.200 You're not just you're not like.

00:04:47.360 No, it's he's projecting onto him.

00:04:49.480 No, he's terrifying.

00:04:50.180 So anyway, they killed his daughter, um, yesterday and they're blaming it on Ukraine, which is very,

00:04:57.980 very convenient seeing that he's the guy who designed the Ukrainian policy. 1.00

00:05:04.820 I just don't think Ukrainians are this stupid. 1.00

00:05:09.900 Uh, I mean, I think they're corrupt. 1.00

00:05:12.100 Uh, the government is, I think that, um, they are playing a very dangerous game. 0.93

00:05:19.940 I think they're most likely screwing us, but we're helping them do that. 0.99

00:05:24.140 Uh, but they are not stupid enough to go into the heart of Russia and kill Alexander Dugan's 1.00

00:05:30.920 Dugan or his daughter as it happened in this case. 0.99

00:05:34.880 Yeah, because they supposedly swapped cars at the last moment, which is another bizarre

00:05:39.000 twist in the story.

00:05:40.200 Yeah.

00:05:40.320 I think what's interesting too, is that, you know, there's a lot of people in this audience

00:05:42.820 that heard you talk about Dugan and understand the warnings that you were giving about him.

00:05:47.340 But what's, what was kind of interesting about how all this played out is that when the Ukraine

00:05:52.660 Russia conflict sort of hit that peak and Russia went in, there was a, I think a generally

00:05:58.740 speaking and understandable response by many on the right who, you know, Biden and the

00:06:03.520 government were involved immediately.

00:06:06.000 We've seen this stuff play out so many times.

00:06:07.920 It's understandable to see it with a lot of suspicion.

00:06:10.660 We've, we've looked at Ukraine and we've seen a lot of corruption.

00:06:13.880 Um, but you should look at it.

00:06:15.160 You should look at it.

00:06:15.920 Uh, you know, Zelensky being kind of propped up as this ultimate hero that was going to

00:06:22.080 save the universe and all of this, I think elicits an immediate and understandable piece

00:06:27.560 of, of skepticism, particularly from a conservative audience that's seen this play out so many

00:06:32.620 times.

00:06:33.540 Um, and all of that may be very well true, right?

00:06:37.200 Like where you have this situation where there is real corruption in Ukraine and there is, uh,

00:06:42.040 all sorts of problems with the media narratives about it.

00:06:44.960 And the fact that we're sending $60 billion over there and the people who are involved in

00:06:49.100 sending that money, uh, are we going to waste a lot of it?

00:06:52.780 Yes.

00:06:53.140 Are we going, is there, are there other things playing out?

00:06:56.100 Yes.

00:06:56.580 A hundred percent.

00:06:57.180 All of that can be true at the same time that what you talked about with Alexander Dugan

00:07:03.740 is true.

00:07:04.580 Yeah.

00:07:04.600 I think where, where we as a country have gone wrong here is we have assigned, uh, the

00:07:11.560 labels good, bad, right.

00:07:14.620 And it's really not, it's more like, uh, instead of black and white, it's more like black and

00:07:20.440 charcoal gray, you know what I mean?

00:07:23.440 Yeah.

00:07:24.220 Yeah.

00:07:24.700 It's, there is a difference there, but, uh, not, not an awful lot.

00:07:31.180 And there's been a lot of kind of immediate skepticism of, of the, of this whole situation.

00:07:36.120 Um, and some on the right have taken immediately the side of Russia, which I, uh, you know, I

00:07:44.000 don't hear that a lot from the, from our audience, but I do see it a lot on social media and some,

00:07:48.580 some writers doing that.

00:07:50.020 And it's, what's interesting about that is that this is exactly what you were talking

00:07:55.380 about when you were talking about Alexander Dugan initially, his, his philosophy had

00:08:01.940 a lot to do with Russia and had a lot to do with Russia's position in the world, but it

00:08:04.700 also had a direct path of attack on the American right to try to plant ideas on the American

00:08:12.140 right to tie into what we do have in common with big T traditionalism, traditional

00:08:18.500 values, but encapsulating his entire worldview on the back of traditional values, which is

00:08:24.920 not something the American people believe in because people will only hear I'm for religion.

00:08:31.500 I'm, I'm for, uh, you know, traditional values.

00:08:35.100 I'm backing the family.

00:08:37.200 Uh-huh.

00:08:38.900 And what else?

00:08:39.940 What was that about Hitler?

00:08:41.480 Uh, you know, you forget about those things and you don't look at those things, especially

00:08:45.760 when there is an emergency or you're looking for team members.

00:08:48.980 He is a very dangerous team member, team member, but I, I don't fear it because of this audience.

00:08:55.640 And let me explain this.

00:08:57.540 I have said really right after September 11th, I said this, I was overwhelmed with the feeling

00:09:04.760 and I have had this feeling time and time again.

00:09:07.140 And I really wondered what it meant, but I said it because I knew it to be true. 0.90

00:09:14.660 And what I said was this audience will turn a corner.

00:09:19.460 It'll be a pivot point.

00:09:20.800 This audience will be responsible in the end for saving America or saving at least remnants

00:09:28.640 of it.

00:09:29.520 But you are going to play a big role in a positive way.

00:09:33.680 And I've often wondered what that meant.

00:09:37.600 Well, it dawned on me Friday when something happened.

00:09:41.400 And then I started thinking about it and I started piecing together.

00:09:43.800 I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:09:46.800 There was a story that was out from the New York Times, the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

00:09:53.720 If you want to understand it, you need to understand the 2010 election.

00:10:00.380 And what does that mean?

00:10:01.500 The 2010 election was the Tea Party movement, the Tea Party movement.

00:10:08.580 When we started going to Washington in droves and demanding change inside the Republican

00:10:15.380 Party.

00:10:16.300 That's what set up the the political landscape that gave us the the members of the court that

00:10:25.260 we have now.

00:10:26.080 So you have to understand the 2010 election.

00:10:29.640 And then I thought, well, 2010 election.

00:10:32.360 I remember.

00:10:33.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:34.440 I remember the 2010 election.

00:10:36.480 Wasn't that the year of the Tea Party movement that started and had the first big march?

00:10:42.820 You remember it where the streets of Washington, D.C.

00:10:45.720 were packed with people just packed with people.

00:10:49.320 The right had never done anything like this before.

00:10:53.060 And I can say this.

00:10:54.420 I had nothing to do with that.

00:10:56.780 But you did.

00:10:58.320 You did.

00:10:59.600 And what was the date of that march?

00:11:03.160 September 12th.

00:11:06.080 September 12th.

00:11:07.600 That march happened on that day because six months before that, I had gotten on television

00:11:19.820 and I had said, gather around and gather all your friends because there's something we have

00:11:25.360 to talk about it.

00:11:26.220 And I launched the 912 project and I said, I'll tell you in six months what I'm going

00:11:32.820 to do.

00:11:33.340 You show me in six months what you're going to do.

00:11:38.260 And that six month mark was 912.

00:11:42.100 And you showed America what you were going to do.

00:11:46.920 If you read Barack Obama's latest book, he talks about how the Tea Party movement was the

00:11:54.260 obstacle that he could not overcome.

00:11:57.160 He said it was he he was thwarted every step of the way because of the Tea Party movement.

00:12:05.720 Do you remember we were facing the goals, the Agenda 21 goals?

00:12:12.960 We exposed it.

00:12:14.540 I wrote a couple of books about it.

00:12:16.260 And it became a giant conspiracy theory.

00:12:20.400 And then it was like, oh, no, wait, it's on the websites for the United Nations.

00:12:25.260 Then it disappeared.

00:12:26.500 And it came back as the sustainability goals of 2030.

00:12:31.320 This audience, because you paid attention to Agenda 21 and spoke out, this audience bought

00:12:40.480 us an additional nine years.

00:12:42.360 Imagine how demoralizing things would have been when we pulled out of Afghanistan, had

00:12:50.860 you not been there to save 20,000 people and bring them across the border.

00:12:57.740 How demoralizing if no one would have banded together, worked together and got those people

00:13:05.200 out without the government.

00:13:06.940 Now, here's what happened on Friday that made me realize you already have changed the course.

00:13:18.440 There was a story in in many of the financial papers.

00:13:23.560 That reported that pushback is getting so intense on ESG that, quote, proponents are pushing

00:13:33.180 for a name change, end quote.

00:13:38.100 That made me think of Common Core.

00:13:40.520 Wait a minute.

00:13:41.660 Common Core.

00:13:42.680 Whatever happened to Common Core?

00:13:44.280 Oh, yeah.

00:13:45.360 We started talking about it.

00:13:47.100 And this audience spread the word and stopped Common Core.

00:13:52.460 I have such great faith in not only God, but you.

00:14:02.260 What I have said for a very long time, this audience is going to play a really big role.

00:14:08.480 And not understanding it while I said it, I understood it Friday right at the end of this

00:14:14.300 broadcast.

00:14:14.960 I have been waiting all week, all weekend, to tell you this.

00:14:22.880 You've already changed the course.

00:14:25.380 You've already bought us enormous amounts of time.

00:14:29.420 Keep it up.

00:14:31.160 You're changing the course of America.

00:14:34.240 Keep it up.

00:14:37.660 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:14:40.460 John Solomon, welcome to the program.

00:14:44.740 How are you, sir?

00:14:46.160 Great to be with you, Glenn.

00:14:47.600 It's good to be with you.

00:14:49.220 We are living in insane times.

00:14:52.840 I mean, we are.

00:14:54.140 We, you know, we've talked for years now.

00:14:57.440 Did you did you ever really believe that it would ever get like this?

00:15:02.500 I didn't know.

00:15:03.600 I mean, we've had this great American experience for 246 years.

00:15:07.420 And I think back to that speech he gave at CPAC in February.

00:15:10.060 And I think all the things you said, somewhere along the way, we jumped out of the roots

00:15:13.920 of this great country.

00:15:14.840 And we're in a place now that doesn't resemble the America that we all grew up in.

00:15:19.720 It's a very trumbly time.

00:15:22.340 So I think a lot of people in the last couple of weeks have learned a lot about what to do

00:15:28.100 and what to expect when you're served a warrant at your house.

00:15:32.220 It's actually a good way.

00:15:33.540 It's God's way of teaching us the Constitution, I think.

00:15:35.960 What happened with Donald Trump is, again, I believe, a horror show.

00:15:43.000 There's no way he's selling secrets, you know, nuclear secrets to Finland. 0.98

00:15:48.220 This is ridiculous.

00:15:49.280 It does now seem to appear to be a shot across the bow because he was trying to release documents 0.85

00:15:59.820 that showed who was involved in the Russia hoax.

00:16:05.120 Is that true?

00:16:06.860 Well, listen, there is this long six-year battle between the FBI and Donald Trump.

00:16:11.140 And, of course, it starts with Russia collusion, which we now know is a completely contrived

00:16:15.500 and political investigation that had no predicate, no merit whatsoever.

00:16:20.100 As the presidency is coming to an end, as Donald Trump's leaving office on January 19th, 2021,

00:16:25.820 he declassifies the documents the FBI never wanted out in public.

00:16:30.180 They didn't want these documents out.

00:16:31.580 These are the way they handled their informants, what they knew before they signed the FISA warms,

00:16:36.480 what they were telling the court versus what they knew internally.

00:16:38.940 That just inflamed the FBI all the more.

00:16:42.940 And for the last year, as I've reported, the FBI secretly grabbed those documents.

00:16:47.380 The president declassified them.

00:16:49.080 He ordered them to be released.

00:16:50.500 In the last hour of the Trump presidency, I'm told, at 11 o'clock on January 20th, 2021,

00:16:56.440 the FBI and the Justice Department grabbed those documents.

00:16:59.200 They made up an excuse, hey, we left a couple of Privacy Act pieces of information in there

00:17:02.980 from the declassified documents.

00:17:05.080 Let's grab them.

00:17:06.140 We'll fix that.

00:17:07.060 We'll release them.

00:17:07.740 They grabbed them.

00:17:08.940 Unbelievable.

00:17:09.560 They held on to them for 19 months.

00:17:10.920 They've kept them from the American public, despite a lawful order of a sitting president.

00:17:16.260 So he had the documents, but they hadn't been redacted?

00:17:21.140 They were redacted.

00:17:22.300 They were completely ready.

00:17:23.520 They had been declassified, all the declassified markings.

00:17:26.620 At the last minute, the Justice Department raised an issue that maybe there was a piece

00:17:30.320 of information there still covered by the Privacy Act.

00:17:32.760 Let's go look at it real quickly.

00:17:34.260 It looks like it was really just an excuse to grab the document.

00:17:36.980 Right.

00:17:37.260 So now, did he have those at Mar-a-Lago?

00:17:40.020 Do we know?

00:17:41.180 Is that what they were going after?

00:17:44.000 Not that we know of.

00:17:45.040 No one has told me.

00:17:46.000 I haven't found anyone who told me he had the documents here.

00:17:47.980 And of course, I've asked the president, do you have the documents?

00:17:50.700 He's told me no.

00:17:51.400 So that's why he gave me permission as a journalist to go to the non-public section of the National

00:17:56.340 Archives and try to find these documents.

00:17:58.060 That's what led us to the discovery just three weeks ago that these documents had been grabbed

00:18:02.980 by the Justice Department and a secret hand grabbed them and put them into the Justice

00:18:06.880 Department.

00:18:07.300 So you haven't been able to find them?

00:18:11.320 No.

00:18:11.600 Well, we know where they are now.

00:18:12.740 There's two sets.

00:18:13.500 There's a classified set at the National Archives.

00:18:16.420 I can't see those because I don't have a security clearance, nor does anyone else in normal America.

00:18:20.500 Call Sandy Berger.

00:18:21.320 Right.

00:18:22.960 I could have done the sock thing.

00:18:24.240 That's probably not advisable.

00:18:25.300 And then the second part is there is a set at the Justice Department, and I'm taking

00:18:29.920 multiple actions to try to force the Justice Department.

00:18:32.680 And I hope to have some really good news later this week.

00:18:35.200 I've been negotiating with the archives.

00:18:37.320 They've been working with the Justice Department.

00:18:39.600 I have a sense, an inkling that we might get these documents in the near future.

00:18:44.320 All right.

00:18:44.980 So what was it that the FBI, do you think, was looking for?

00:18:50.800 It's a great question, right?

00:18:52.100 The first possibility is maybe what they said is all that it is, right?

00:18:56.080 This is a dispute between the archives and former President Donald Trump, and they actually

00:19:01.180 went to this unprecedented means to go get documents back by raiding his home.

00:19:05.560 I haven't found any other great explanation for people, and I think that when history looks

00:19:10.720 back, if that's all this was, if this was a dispute over documents, there is a civil

00:19:15.680 process that could have been followed, and that means they will have criminalized a dispute

00:19:20.520 over paper, and with some serious issues involved.

00:19:24.400 And I think there's another part of this, Glenn, that we haven't been able to dig into, and

00:19:27.840 I'm really working on it hard now.

00:19:29.620 It is impossible for this sort of a dispute to go on and become criminalized without the

00:19:36.280 Biden White House knowing.

00:19:37.420 There's just no way the way the system of government works.

00:19:40.220 So what was the Biden White House's role in these conversations?

00:19:44.520 I think that's the next big shoe to drop.

00:19:46.400 I don't know what it is yet, but I'm determined to find out what it is, because the way government

00:19:50.800 works, you've got these issues of privilege, you've got these issues of a dispute between

00:19:55.960 the current administration and the past administration.

00:19:58.360 The Biden White House had to be in the loop, and I don't think their story yet adds up.

00:20:03.140 I have to tell you, just on common sense and the way the world has traditionally worked

00:20:10.060 in America, there's no way a decision that large that would come back to the White House

00:20:17.460 eventually and affect the presidency, not just Biden and Trump, but the entire presidency.

00:20:24.060 There's no way the Justice Department doesn't call and at least give a heads up.

00:20:31.780 Am I wrong?

00:20:33.540 I'm 100% with you, and there's, I think, another issue here.

00:20:36.380 Remember that the grand jury subpoena, which I broke the story a couple weeks ago, was

00:20:41.740 executed on June 3rd in a collaborative way, by the way.

00:20:44.860 Both sides were still working together then.

00:20:47.380 That didn't address the issue of executive privilege.

00:20:50.340 What does that mean?

00:20:51.080 It means somewhere earlier in the process, somebody had to waive executive privilege in

00:20:55.640 order for a grand jury subpoena to be issued for presidential documents.

00:21:01.060 The only, Donald Trump isn't going to be waiving it.

00:21:03.220 I think we're going to find out that the Biden administration waived executive privilege for

00:21:07.400 Trump and that they were deeply involved in the set.

00:21:10.080 That just is the only plausible explanation for why there wouldn't have been a privilege

00:21:14.040 claim back in June when the grand jury first showed, you know, for the subpoena was first

00:21:18.300 executed.

00:21:19.440 So, John, I'm doing a special on Wednesday on the history of the FBI and how corrupt it has

00:21:28.060 been through.

00:21:28.780 I mean, it really was corrupt from the very beginning.

00:21:32.080 You know, we had Hoover doing all kinds of stuff that was really, really dark and bad.

00:21:39.680 Are we at or beyond the Hoover days?

00:21:44.240 Well, listen, one of the big stories I did when I was at the Washington Post and I worked

00:21:47.920 for 60 minutes for 40 years.

00:21:50.720 For 40 years, the FBI would go into it.

00:21:53.400 Take it out of politics for a second.

00:21:54.620 They would go into a case and say, that guy on trial for murder, I can assure you that

00:21:59.320 the bullets we found in his bedroom drawer matches the bullets that were shot out of

00:22:03.820 that gun.

00:22:04.800 And for 40 years, they testified that hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of murder defendants

00:22:11.060 were convicted based on the FBI scientists. 0.54

00:22:13.200 The story I broke in 2007 showed the FBI knew all along that that science was junk science.

00:22:20.180 It wasn't true, that they couldn't make such a representation.

00:22:23.720 And yet they continue to do it well past the, well, they did during the Hoover years, well

00:22:28.980 past the, all the way into the mother years.

00:22:31.080 Um, so the history of the FBI, whether it's the church hearings, which really went into

00:22:36.240 the Hoover era or what we've learned, uh, 9-11, uh, the, uh, uh, mistakes in the Oklahoma

00:22:43.640 city bombing, the problems with the FBI lab.

00:22:46.440 This is an agency that has a very, uh, big reputation, but it also has a very big history

00:22:52.340 of abuses time and time and time again.

00:22:55.560 Any way to rein that in?

00:22:57.180 It's a great question.

00:22:59.540 You know, some of the policymakers I've been talking to in Congress for the first time

00:23:03.680 I've heard Republicans tell me privately, you know what, it's time to break up the FBI,

00:23:07.820 maybe have, have, uh, make them like Scotland Yard and put the domestic intelligence into

00:23:12.420 a different agency.

00:23:14.000 Uh, there is clearly a moment of reckoning for the FBI and the, on the immediate, immediate

00:23:18.640 horizon.

00:23:19.360 The real question is if you just take the counterintelligence division out, you put it somewhere else, the

00:23:24.540 mentality still exists that there's not a regard for the constitution.

00:23:27.720 And that's the part, whether it's inside the FBI or outside of it, the, the lack of

00:23:32.640 regard for the fourth amendment, for our liberties in the face of a big government, that's the

00:23:37.960 part that hasn't been crushed out.

00:23:39.360 I'm not sure.

00:23:39.780 Just dividing the FBI solves it.

00:23:42.540 Uh, especially if the intelligence arm, the intelligence agencies are completely out of

00:23:48.920 control, the things I've read about the intelligence agencies and I've heard from people on Capitol

00:23:54.280 Hill is they really don't answer to anybody right now.

00:23:59.460 Yep.

00:24:00.000 They have their own mindset, their own mentality.

00:24:02.440 They feel, and because so much of what they do can stay secret, no matter what, as, as we're

00:24:06.380 seeing in this search warrant today, um, we never get a visibility to know what the, if

00:24:11.600 what they're telling us, the excuse they're giving us is real.

00:24:14.100 And it's only years later, usually through lawsuits and FOIAs that we find out, well,

00:24:18.480 the official story of the intelligence community didn't match what we were told at the time.

00:24:22.620 It's that secrecy that I think creates so much concern.

00:24:25.420 There was an opportunity in the middle of Russia collusion while Republicans were still

00:24:29.200 in control of both to do something, to create a permanent advocate so that all intelligence

00:24:34.220 cases that occurred in secret, there would be someone advocating on behalf of the American

00:24:39.220 whose liberties were about to be violated.

00:24:42.020 They whiffed on that.

00:24:42.920 Paul Ryan whiffed on that.

00:24:44.480 Mitch McConnell whiffed on that.

00:24:45.660 But I think there are a lot of people today that would go back and say, you know, if I

00:24:49.160 had a do over, I'd probably create that public advocate who goes into the court and argues 0.99

00:24:53.580 on behalf of you and me and everybody else.

00:24:56.800 So, um, John, what do you think Donald Trump is talking about when he says that, you know,

00:25:02.640 he said over the weekend, it might be within hours, it might be Monday, uh, that I'm going

00:25:07.560 to be filing something and big news coming.

00:25:10.680 What do you think that might be?

00:25:11.900 My reporting indicates that the president is considering, uh, filing a motion to remove,

00:25:17.960 uh, a magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhardt, who, by the way, just a few minutes ago, ruled

00:25:21.920 that the entire affidavit cannot be kept sealed.

00:25:24.020 He believes he used the word unprecedented.

00:25:26.180 I'm glad he recognizes what he approved is unprecedented.

00:25:29.060 Uh, but he is rejecting the justice department's request to keep the affidavit secret.

00:25:33.640 But I believe the, wait, wait, wait, wait, he rejected the, the, the department of justice.

00:25:39.180 This just broke just a few minutes ago.

00:25:41.460 It's up on just the news right now.

00:25:43.140 Judge Reinhardt this morning, uh, said the justice department's request to keep the entire

00:25:47.840 affidavit for the search warrant, uh, under seal is rejected that this is an unprecedented

00:25:53.280 case.

00:25:54.400 It requires transparency.

00:25:55.660 So people can understand why the FBI was authorized to raid a former president's own.

00:26:00.320 So that just happened this morning.

00:26:01.920 That's a, uh, something that the president was cheering on.

00:26:04.700 And how long will it be before we see that?

00:26:07.360 Well, there are two options.

00:26:08.520 Either they have to deliver the unredacted version of the, um, affidavit on Thursday,

00:26:14.580 or a more likely scenario is the justice department will slow walk this, go to a district judge,

00:26:19.560 then go to an appeals court, maybe even go to the Supreme court.

00:26:22.020 Oh my God.

00:26:22.480 My guess is they're going to go that route.

00:26:24.300 But meanwhile, the president, to answer your question, I think the president is going to

00:26:28.360 ask that a special master be appointed, a court appointed independent person, take the documents

00:26:33.920 from the FBI and go through them and say, these are privileged.

00:26:35.980 These are aren't, these are overly expansive.

00:26:38.220 They shouldn't have been collected like your passports and res and not leave the FBI on an

00:26:42.760 honor system, given that all we know.

00:26:44.480 So I think that's what we're going to see the president do.

00:26:46.780 That would be great, John.

00:26:48.600 Thank you so much.

00:26:52.780 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:26:58.360 Rebecca Koffler.

00:27:02.560 Thank you so much for joining us on a short notice as, uh, as yesterday, there was a car

00:27:08.700 bomb.

00:27:09.280 Uh, do you agree with me that it was clearly meant for Alexander Dugan and not his daughter?

00:27:16.940 Well, uh, Hey Glenn, it's such a pleasure to be back on your show with you and your audience.

00:27:22.580 Um, yes, that is the conventional, uh, wisdom that it is the father Alexander Dugan and the

00:27:31.660 mastermind of the ideology of Eurasianism that underpins Putin's entire doctrine and strategy,

00:27:40.000 which includes the destruction of Ukraine.

00:27:42.640 Um, it is him who was the target.

00:27:45.720 However, there's also an alternative, uh, hypothesis is that both of them were targeted because

00:27:54.360 originally they were supposed to be driving in one car from the, uh, lecture and the, um,

00:28:03.800 the big event that Dugan was speaking at.

00:28:07.140 And it is at the last moment that the father Alexander Dugan switched cars.

00:28:14.360 So, and because his daughter was just as vocal in the anti-West, you know, narrative that underpins

00:28:24.820 Russia's current, uh, anti-U.S. policy, she possibly was also the target.

00:28:31.100 Okay.

00:28:31.560 Cause she's also in the media, but, but he is the leader of, of this.

00:28:36.420 Uh, I just think it's a cult all around the world.

00:28:39.100 He is infecting, um, even America with some of his, uh, capital T traditionalism and people 0.97

00:28:45.580 just don't understand how dangerous this is.

00:28:48.120 Do you believe that, that it would be in the best interest of Ukraine to try to pull this off?

00:28:54.820 It, okay.

00:28:58.120 So it is hard to tell on the one hand, Ukrainians could perfectly be justified, um, to target 1.00

00:29:07.980 this person.

00:29:09.220 Correct.

00:29:09.660 And, uh, Dugan has advocated for the destruction of Ukraine.

00:29:14.940 Right.

00:29:15.440 He's actually calling, if I'm not mistaken, he's actually calling for, um, the, the elimination 0.98

00:29:22.840 of Ukrainians, if you will.

00:29:25.180 I don't remember the word he used, but it was, it seemed like a death, uh, Holocaust kind 0.99

00:29:30.620 of, uh, thing, but he's calling for more than just occupying.

00:29:34.240 And he is also the, the idea planter or the seed behind, um, Crimea.

00:29:44.300 And now this incursion into, uh, Ukraine.

00:29:48.000 Correct.

00:29:49.540 One hundred percent.

00:29:51.340 So yes, it is possible that there's motive, um, why Ukrainians would want to target now 0.97

00:29:58.780 to pull something off like that is not a slam dunk.

00:30:03.500 So a lot of the resources and planning must have gone into this operation.

00:30:08.640 But, uh, let me tell you, um, uh, about Dugan a little more because he's not only anti-Ukraine,

00:30:17.600 he is anti-America.

00:30:20.260 I have a whole chapter in my book dedicated to Alexander Dugan because he's considered to

00:30:26.760 be Putin's brain.

00:30:28.980 His writings, he's a political philosopher, ultra-nationalist.

00:30:33.760 He was the thought leader behind Eurasianism, as I said, with, which underpinned Putin's

00:30:41.960 policy of the so-called Russian world.

00:30:45.480 Okay.

00:30:46.060 And I would like to give you some quotes about Dugan who called on Russia to counteract

00:30:53.480 U.S. policy at all levels in all regions of the world.

00:30:57.680 And specifically, he said that Russia, and I quote, must weaken, demoralize, and deceive

00:31:05.320 in order to win.

00:31:07.220 It is especially important to introduce geopolitical order into America's internal reality, to encourage

00:31:16.080 separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts.

00:31:20.540 activists actively support dissident movements and extremist racist groups and sects, and

00:31:26.900 to destabilize internal processes.

00:31:30.080 So this is who we are talking about.

00:31:33.020 You know, it's a mastermind of a very dangerous ideology, and now his daughter is gone, and

00:31:40.960 the Russians are up in arms about it.

00:31:43.760 The Russian media erupted over the weekend, blaming the United States and blaming Ukraine

00:31:50.680 for what they characterized as a terrorist attack.

00:31:55.740 It is, it's interesting to me that his plan on how to destabilize America, while they say

00:32:04.520 the right is in bed with Putin, the plan that Dugan gave to Putin, it would be everything

00:32:13.260 that the left is involved in.

00:32:15.500 And I don't mean necessarily Democrats, I mean the left of, you know, racial, racial division,

00:32:22.660 et cetera, et cetera.

00:32:24.380 So the media in Russia comes out with this.

00:32:28.660 I don't know if we have any credibility to be able to say we didn't do this.

00:32:33.460 I hope to God we didn't do this.

00:32:37.020 What would be a Putin response?

00:32:43.100 Right.

00:32:44.020 So when the Russians blamed the United States first, they're not saying that we directly

00:32:52.140 actually orchestrated this, but what they are implying, given our support to Ukraine and

00:32:58.960 the fact that we admitted that we provide targeting information to Ukraine so that they could

00:33:06.740 effectively defend their country against the Russian invaders, they, in the same manner,

00:33:13.600 they accused us of having orchestrated this.

00:33:16.780 So the response is going to be, I'm concerned, is further escalation because, again, Dugan is

00:33:27.680 a symbol.

00:33:29.160 And his daughter has turned into a martyr right now, or has been turned by the Russian media.

00:33:36.240 And remember, this attack and the explosion, basically the way that this was done is the

00:33:45.000 explosive device was put under the seat of Hukkan, was remotely detonated.

00:33:50.760 So this explosion comes on the heel of a series of attacks in Crimea.

00:33:58.960 And remember, the Russians believe Crimea is the red line for Ukraine, despite the fact that

00:34:06.160 Crimea is Ukrainian territory, but because the Russians annexed it in 2014, and they consider

00:34:13.720 it part of Russia right now.

00:34:16.200 So in combination, all of this, you know, escalation is going to put pressure on Putin to ratchet

00:34:25.500 up his military assault on Ukraine.

00:34:30.180 And in fact, President Zelensky himself warned yesterday that around Wednesday, this coming

00:34:38.680 Wednesday, in two days, he's concerned about the Russian staging, something really nasty, 0.66

00:34:46.520 some provocations, because on Wednesday, it's Ukraine's Independence Day, when Ukraine became

00:34:53.360 independent from the Soviet Union.

00:34:55.100 So I share that concern, whether it's on Wednesday or shortly after.

00:35:02.420 We know that there are plenty of opportunities, specifically one of the extreme, you know, risks,

00:35:09.580 moderate probability, but extremely high risk of a disaster that exists right now.

00:35:17.220 It's related to the nuclear power plant in Zaporozhye, that both sides are accusing each other of shelling.

00:35:25.220 And that is at the risk of erupting in, you know, in possible, hopefully not soon, but there's definitely that risk.

00:35:36.260 So we're talking to Rebecca Koffler.

00:35:38.780 You actually lived in the Soviet Union, if I remember right.

00:35:41.860 Absolutely.

00:35:43.860 I was born and raised there.

00:35:45.520 I came to the United States in 89 as already as a young adult.

00:35:50.800 So I went through the whole, you know, indoctrination system and everything.

00:35:54.860 So she is the author of Putin's playbook and a U.S. intelligence expert.

00:35:59.760 The the idea that we had anything to do with it or that Ukraine did, I find hard to believe because both sides would have to be insane to do it.

00:36:13.360 And it would be very difficult.

00:36:14.680 We could pull it off.

00:36:16.160 But Ukraine pulling it off, I think, would be very, very difficult.

00:36:19.420 The idea that this was some anti-ultranationalist group trying to kill him seems difficult because it would only make him into a martyr.

00:36:35.380 But who would have in Russia who would have the ability and the desire to do this? 0.94

00:36:42.600 OK, so I personally don't find the reports that it's, you know, the National Republican Army, which is supposedly an anti-Putin partisan organization that staged this.

00:37:02.960 This is not credible to me.

00:37:05.120 And the intelligence is inconclusive as far as who specifically did this, because it's very, very fresh right now.

00:37:16.040 I am almost certain that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this.

00:37:23.280 The FSB, which is the domestic security services in Russia, has attributed this already to a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vosk, who apparently, according to the FSB, that is.

00:37:43.960 Now, you know, remember, FSB cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean that their analysis and their preliminary investigation isn't correct.

00:37:54.720 Correct.

00:37:55.080 But this is what they have assessed, is that Natalia Vosk entered Russia on July 23rd with her 12-year-old daughter, Sofia Shaban, and reportedly rented an apartment in the same building as Daria Dugin's daughter that was killed.

00:38:15.980 And so and then apparently Natalia fled to Estonia.

00:38:21.440 Now, we need to do more digging.

00:38:25.480 I'm certain that U.S. intelligence is involved in the analysis and in the investigation on our own, you know, here, obviously not, you know, in Russia.

00:38:37.880 But at this point, it's very difficult to tell.

00:38:41.800 Yes, Ukrainians, you know, do claim that there's an anti-Putin movement going in Russia.

00:38:49.540 But remember, Ukrainians are just as adept as the disinformation as the Russians are. 0.97

00:38:56.040 And they're fully invested in waging this disinformation in order to dislodge Putin psychologically.

00:39:03.580 They know how it's done.

00:39:05.160 So both sides are, you know, invested in this.

00:39:10.920 And this is going to go on forever.

00:39:13.740 In the meantime, you know, Glenn, we keep pumping in our weaponry into Ukraine.

00:39:20.420 We just announced another $775 million of assistance.

00:39:27.160 We're hoping that it will help Ukraine to change the battlefield conditions.

00:39:33.980 But, again, they're fighting a highly, you know, a much more superior, you know, adversary.

00:39:40.340 And there's no end to this.

00:39:43.800 So, Rebecca, would you do me a favor?

00:39:45.520 I'd like to stay in touch with this this week as this story develops.

00:39:48.960 And we'll check back with you tomorrow if there's any developments.

00:39:53.220 But this is extraordinarily concerning to me.

00:39:57.260 And Americans need to understand who Alexander Dugan is because his tentacles are in America.

00:40:05.700 And he is also he has fans on the right in America.

00:40:12.300 And I think he's an extraordinarily dangerous man.

00:40:16.200 Thank you so much, Rebecca.

00:40:17.540 Absolutely.

00:40:18.360 Good.

00:40:18.700 Yes, you got it.

00:40:20.140 All right.

00:40:20.440 Rebecca Koffler.

00:40:21.860 The name of her book is Putin's.

00:40:25.180 Hang on just a second.

00:40:26.060 Let me playbook.

00:40:27.380 Putin's playbook.

00:40:28.280 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 22, 2022

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： John Solomon & Rebekah Koffler ｜ 8⧸22⧸22

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript