The Glenn Beck Program - August 22, 2022


Best of the Program | Guests: John Solomon & Rebekah Koffler | 8⧸22⧸22


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

151.13686

Word Count

6,122

Sentence Count

428

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Glenn and Stu discuss the latest in the Trump administration, the Mar-a-Lago scandal, and the latest on the Ukraine crisis. They also discuss what the FBI should do now that the judge has ordered them to release all of the evidence from a grand jury investigation into the Trump's alleged affair with a Russian woman.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, Stu. Hey, it's Monday.
00:00:03.480 Hi, Glenn.
00:00:04.180 Hi. What a great Monday. What a great Monday podcast we had for people today.
00:00:09.620 We have the New York Times talking about getting away from the old Constitution.
00:00:15.920 In fact, we really should just legislate everything and get rid of the whole judicial process.
00:00:22.060 Everything we've accused them of over the years, they're now admitting.
00:00:24.980 Yeah. We also had John Solomon on to talk to us a little bit about what was happening at Mar-a-Lago and what the president is going to do now that the judge said they have to release all of the warrant.
00:00:42.320 Will the DOJ do it? We have that answer for you. And what is going to be the response?
00:00:47.760 Don't forget to subscribe, blazetv.com slash Glenn. Promo code is Glenn for $10 off your subscription.
00:00:53.180 And make sure to subscribe, rate, and review to this podcast and Stu Does America as well.
00:00:56.880 And the last part of the podcast is on Alexander Dukin, Russia, and our response.
00:01:03.440 A point of view you're not going to hear anywhere else.
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00:02:16.760 Here's the podcast.
00:02:24.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:02:28.940 All right.
00:02:32.900 I want to start with a positive today.
00:02:36.720 I want to start with something that I think you need to understand.
00:02:41.920 When you look at the world, you know, Stu and I were just talking about Alexander Dugan.
00:02:47.000 And I don't think people have gotten the message yet on Alexander Dugan.
00:02:52.660 But we've been talking about him.
00:02:54.040 I've been talking about him for, what, four years, five years?
00:02:57.160 Yeah.
00:02:57.940 At least?
00:02:58.800 And what he's been trying to do, not only in Russia, but all over the world.
00:03:02.800 Right.
00:03:03.620 He's a guy who's seen as someone who's on the right, a figure of the right.
00:03:07.720 I've heard everyone calling him a figure of the right.
00:03:09.860 But I don't think that's appropriate.
00:03:11.700 Certainly not in the American understanding of the right.
00:03:13.920 No.
00:03:14.600 He is a capital T traditionalist.
00:03:17.540 So I'm a small T traditionalist.
00:03:20.200 I believe in traditional values.
00:03:22.940 Sure.
00:03:23.140 I believe in.
00:03:24.060 But he is a capital T traditionalist, which is an actual movement.
00:03:28.660 That is his movement is the the what is it?
00:03:34.520 The fourth political theory.
00:03:36.020 And it is based on, strangely, strong man and chaos.
00:03:43.440 He believes that chaos is the way to be able to have Russia rule the world.
00:03:50.180 And he is currently working and pouring money all over the world, including here in America.
00:03:56.500 If you ever hear him on the air with a host, you should question what you believe about that host.
00:04:02.500 This man is, I believe, one of the most dangerous men, if not the most dangerous men in the world.
00:04:11.100 He believes he has to bring on Armageddon to be able to have Russia become the global leader.
00:04:20.920 So he is extraordinarily dangerous.
00:04:25.020 He is also looking for the collapse and the destruction of America as we know it.
00:04:30.580 Um, so he is not a figure on the right.
00:04:35.120 He he's a he's a he's a fascist.
00:04:38.300 He believes the only thing that Hitler did wrong was he didn't go far enough.
00:04:44.180 These are from his writings, by the way.
00:04:46.200 You're not just you're not like.
00:04:47.360 No, it's he's projecting onto him.
00:04:49.480 No, he's terrifying.
00:04:50.180 So anyway, they killed his daughter, um, yesterday and they're blaming it on Ukraine, which is very,
00:04:57.980 very convenient seeing that he's the guy who designed the Ukrainian policy.
00:05:04.820 I just don't think Ukrainians are this stupid.
00:05:09.900 Uh, I mean, I think they're corrupt.
00:05:12.100 Uh, the government is, I think that, um, they are playing a very dangerous game.
00:05:19.940 I think they're most likely screwing us, but we're helping them do that.
00:05:24.140 Uh, but they are not stupid enough to go into the heart of Russia and kill Alexander Dugan's
00:05:30.920 Dugan or his daughter as it happened in this case.
00:05:34.880 Yeah, because they supposedly swapped cars at the last moment, which is another bizarre
00:05:39.000 twist in the story.
00:05:40.200 Yeah.
00:05:40.320 I think what's interesting too, is that, you know, there's a lot of people in this audience
00:05:42.820 that heard you talk about Dugan and understand the warnings that you were giving about him.
00:05:47.340 But what's, what was kind of interesting about how all this played out is that when the Ukraine
00:05:52.660 Russia conflict sort of hit that peak and Russia went in, there was a, I think a generally
00:05:58.740 speaking and understandable response by many on the right who, you know, Biden and the
00:06:03.520 government were involved immediately.
00:06:06.000 We've seen this stuff play out so many times.
00:06:07.920 It's understandable to see it with a lot of suspicion.
00:06:10.660 We've, we've looked at Ukraine and we've seen a lot of corruption.
00:06:13.880 Um, but you should look at it.
00:06:15.160 You should look at it.
00:06:15.920 Uh, you know, Zelensky being kind of propped up as this ultimate hero that was going to
00:06:22.080 save the universe and all of this, I think elicits an immediate and understandable piece
00:06:27.560 of, of skepticism, particularly from a conservative audience that's seen this play out so many
00:06:32.620 times.
00:06:33.540 Um, and all of that may be very well true, right?
00:06:37.200 Like where you have this situation where there is real corruption in Ukraine and there is, uh,
00:06:42.040 all sorts of problems with the media narratives about it.
00:06:44.960 And the fact that we're sending $60 billion over there and the people who are involved in
00:06:49.100 sending that money, uh, are we going to waste a lot of it?
00:06:52.780 Yes.
00:06:53.140 Are we going, is there, are there other things playing out?
00:06:56.100 Yes.
00:06:56.580 A hundred percent.
00:06:57.180 All of that can be true at the same time that what you talked about with Alexander Dugan
00:07:03.740 is true.
00:07:04.580 Yeah.
00:07:04.600 I think where, where we as a country have gone wrong here is we have assigned, uh, the
00:07:11.560 labels good, bad, right.
00:07:14.620 And it's really not, it's more like, uh, instead of black and white, it's more like black and
00:07:20.440 charcoal gray, you know what I mean?
00:07:23.440 Yeah.
00:07:24.220 Yeah.
00:07:24.700 It's, there is a difference there, but, uh, not, not an awful lot.
00:07:31.180 And there's been a lot of kind of immediate skepticism of, of the, of this whole situation.
00:07:36.120 Um, and some on the right have taken immediately the side of Russia, which I, uh, you know, I
00:07:44.000 don't hear that a lot from the, from our audience, but I do see it a lot on social media and some,
00:07:48.580 some writers doing that.
00:07:50.020 And it's, what's interesting about that is that this is exactly what you were talking
00:07:55.380 about when you were talking about Alexander Dugan initially, his, his philosophy had
00:08:01.940 a lot to do with Russia and had a lot to do with Russia's position in the world, but it
00:08:04.700 also had a direct path of attack on the American right to try to plant ideas on the American
00:08:12.140 right to tie into what we do have in common with big T traditionalism, traditional
00:08:18.500 values, but encapsulating his entire worldview on the back of traditional values, which is
00:08:24.920 not something the American people believe in because people will only hear I'm for religion.
00:08:31.500 I'm, I'm for, uh, you know, traditional values.
00:08:35.100 I'm backing the family.
00:08:37.200 Uh-huh.
00:08:38.900 And what else?
00:08:39.940 What was that about Hitler?
00:08:41.480 Uh, you know, you forget about those things and you don't look at those things, especially
00:08:45.760 when there is an emergency or you're looking for team members.
00:08:48.980 He is a very dangerous team member, team member, but I, I don't fear it because of this audience.
00:08:55.640 And let me explain this.
00:08:57.540 I have said really right after September 11th, I said this, I was overwhelmed with the feeling
00:09:04.760 and I have had this feeling time and time again.
00:09:07.140 And I really wondered what it meant, but I said it because I knew it to be true.
00:09:14.660 And what I said was this audience will turn a corner.
00:09:19.460 It'll be a pivot point.
00:09:20.800 This audience will be responsible in the end for saving America or saving at least remnants
00:09:28.640 of it.
00:09:29.520 But you are going to play a big role in a positive way.
00:09:33.680 And I've often wondered what that meant.
00:09:37.600 Well, it dawned on me Friday when something happened.
00:09:41.400 And then I started thinking about it and I started piecing together.
00:09:43.800 I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:09:46.800 There was a story that was out from the New York Times, the overturning of Roe versus Wade.
00:09:53.720 If you want to understand it, you need to understand the 2010 election.
00:10:00.380 And what does that mean?
00:10:01.500 The 2010 election was the Tea Party movement, the Tea Party movement.
00:10:08.580 When we started going to Washington in droves and demanding change inside the Republican
00:10:15.380 Party.
00:10:16.300 That's what set up the the political landscape that gave us the the members of the court that
00:10:25.260 we have now.
00:10:26.080 So you have to understand the 2010 election.
00:10:29.640 And then I thought, well, 2010 election.
00:10:32.360 I remember.
00:10:33.360 Oh, my gosh.
00:10:34.440 I remember the 2010 election.
00:10:36.480 Wasn't that the year of the Tea Party movement that started and had the first big march?
00:10:42.820 You remember it where the streets of Washington, D.C.
00:10:45.720 were packed with people just packed with people.
00:10:49.320 The right had never done anything like this before.
00:10:53.060 And I can say this.
00:10:54.420 I had nothing to do with that.
00:10:56.780 But you did.
00:10:58.320 You did.
00:10:59.600 And what was the date of that march?
00:11:03.160 September 12th.
00:11:06.080 September 12th.
00:11:07.600 That march happened on that day because six months before that, I had gotten on television
00:11:19.820 and I had said, gather around and gather all your friends because there's something we have
00:11:25.360 to talk about it.
00:11:26.220 And I launched the 912 project and I said, I'll tell you in six months what I'm going
00:11:32.820 to do.
00:11:33.340 You show me in six months what you're going to do.
00:11:38.260 And that six month mark was 912.
00:11:42.100 And you showed America what you were going to do.
00:11:46.920 If you read Barack Obama's latest book, he talks about how the Tea Party movement was the
00:11:54.260 obstacle that he could not overcome.
00:11:57.160 He said it was he he was thwarted every step of the way because of the Tea Party movement.
00:12:05.720 Do you remember we were facing the goals, the Agenda 21 goals?
00:12:12.960 We exposed it.
00:12:14.540 I wrote a couple of books about it.
00:12:16.260 And it became a giant conspiracy theory.
00:12:20.400 And then it was like, oh, no, wait, it's on the websites for the United Nations.
00:12:25.260 Then it disappeared.
00:12:26.500 And it came back as the sustainability goals of 2030.
00:12:31.320 This audience, because you paid attention to Agenda 21 and spoke out, this audience bought
00:12:40.480 us an additional nine years.
00:12:42.360 Imagine how demoralizing things would have been when we pulled out of Afghanistan, had
00:12:50.860 you not been there to save 20,000 people and bring them across the border.
00:12:57.740 How demoralizing if no one would have banded together, worked together and got those people
00:13:05.200 out without the government.
00:13:06.940 Now, here's what happened on Friday that made me realize you already have changed the course.
00:13:18.440 There was a story in in many of the financial papers.
00:13:23.560 That reported that pushback is getting so intense on ESG that, quote, proponents are pushing
00:13:33.180 for a name change, end quote.
00:13:38.100 That made me think of Common Core.
00:13:40.520 Wait a minute.
00:13:41.660 Common Core.
00:13:42.680 Whatever happened to Common Core?
00:13:44.280 Oh, yeah.
00:13:45.360 We started talking about it.
00:13:47.100 And this audience spread the word and stopped Common Core.
00:13:52.460 I have such great faith in not only God, but you.
00:14:02.260 What I have said for a very long time, this audience is going to play a really big role.
00:14:08.480 And not understanding it while I said it, I understood it Friday right at the end of this
00:14:14.300 broadcast.
00:14:14.960 I have been waiting all week, all weekend, to tell you this.
00:14:22.880 You've already changed the course.
00:14:25.380 You've already bought us enormous amounts of time.
00:14:29.420 Keep it up.
00:14:31.160 You're changing the course of America.
00:14:34.240 Keep it up.
00:14:37.660 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:14:40.460 John Solomon, welcome to the program.
00:14:44.740 How are you, sir?
00:14:46.160 Great to be with you, Glenn.
00:14:47.600 It's good to be with you.
00:14:49.220 We are living in insane times.
00:14:52.840 I mean, we are.
00:14:54.140 We, you know, we've talked for years now.
00:14:57.440 Did you did you ever really believe that it would ever get like this?
00:15:02.500 I didn't know.
00:15:03.600 I mean, we've had this great American experience for 246 years.
00:15:07.420 And I think back to that speech he gave at CPAC in February.
00:15:10.060 And I think all the things you said, somewhere along the way, we jumped out of the roots
00:15:13.920 of this great country.
00:15:14.840 And we're in a place now that doesn't resemble the America that we all grew up in.
00:15:19.720 It's a very trumbly time.
00:15:22.340 So I think a lot of people in the last couple of weeks have learned a lot about what to do
00:15:28.100 and what to expect when you're served a warrant at your house.
00:15:32.220 It's actually a good way.
00:15:33.540 It's God's way of teaching us the Constitution, I think.
00:15:35.960 What happened with Donald Trump is, again, I believe, a horror show.
00:15:43.000 There's no way he's selling secrets, you know, nuclear secrets to Finland.
00:15:48.220 This is ridiculous.
00:15:49.280 It does now seem to appear to be a shot across the bow because he was trying to release documents
00:15:59.820 that showed who was involved in the Russia hoax.
00:16:05.120 Is that true?
00:16:06.860 Well, listen, there is this long six-year battle between the FBI and Donald Trump.
00:16:11.140 And, of course, it starts with Russia collusion, which we now know is a completely contrived
00:16:15.500 and political investigation that had no predicate, no merit whatsoever.
00:16:20.100 As the presidency is coming to an end, as Donald Trump's leaving office on January 19th, 2021,
00:16:25.820 he declassifies the documents the FBI never wanted out in public.
00:16:30.180 They didn't want these documents out.
00:16:31.580 These are the way they handled their informants, what they knew before they signed the FISA warms,
00:16:36.480 what they were telling the court versus what they knew internally.
00:16:38.940 That just inflamed the FBI all the more.
00:16:42.940 And for the last year, as I've reported, the FBI secretly grabbed those documents.
00:16:47.380 The president declassified them.
00:16:49.080 He ordered them to be released.
00:16:50.500 In the last hour of the Trump presidency, I'm told, at 11 o'clock on January 20th, 2021,
00:16:56.440 the FBI and the Justice Department grabbed those documents.
00:16:59.200 They made up an excuse, hey, we left a couple of Privacy Act pieces of information in there
00:17:02.980 from the declassified documents.
00:17:05.080 Let's grab them.
00:17:06.140 We'll fix that.
00:17:07.060 We'll release them.
00:17:07.740 They grabbed them.
00:17:08.940 Unbelievable.
00:17:09.560 They held on to them for 19 months.
00:17:10.920 They've kept them from the American public, despite a lawful order of a sitting president.
00:17:16.260 So he had the documents, but they hadn't been redacted?
00:17:21.140 They were redacted.
00:17:22.300 They were completely ready.
00:17:23.520 They had been declassified, all the declassified markings.
00:17:26.620 At the last minute, the Justice Department raised an issue that maybe there was a piece
00:17:30.320 of information there still covered by the Privacy Act.
00:17:32.760 Let's go look at it real quickly.
00:17:34.260 It looks like it was really just an excuse to grab the document.
00:17:36.980 Right.
00:17:37.260 So now, did he have those at Mar-a-Lago?
00:17:40.020 Do we know?
00:17:41.180 Is that what they were going after?
00:17:44.000 Not that we know of.
00:17:45.040 No one has told me.
00:17:46.000 I haven't found anyone who told me he had the documents here.
00:17:47.980 And of course, I've asked the president, do you have the documents?
00:17:50.700 He's told me no.
00:17:51.400 So that's why he gave me permission as a journalist to go to the non-public section of the National
00:17:56.340 Archives and try to find these documents.
00:17:58.060 That's what led us to the discovery just three weeks ago that these documents had been grabbed
00:18:02.980 by the Justice Department and a secret hand grabbed them and put them into the Justice
00:18:06.880 Department.
00:18:07.300 So you haven't been able to find them?
00:18:11.320 No.
00:18:11.600 Well, we know where they are now.
00:18:12.740 There's two sets.
00:18:13.500 There's a classified set at the National Archives.
00:18:16.420 I can't see those because I don't have a security clearance, nor does anyone else in normal America.
00:18:20.500 Call Sandy Berger.
00:18:21.320 Right.
00:18:22.960 I could have done the sock thing.
00:18:24.240 That's probably not advisable.
00:18:25.300 And then the second part is there is a set at the Justice Department, and I'm taking
00:18:29.920 multiple actions to try to force the Justice Department.
00:18:32.680 And I hope to have some really good news later this week.
00:18:35.200 I've been negotiating with the archives.
00:18:37.320 They've been working with the Justice Department.
00:18:39.600 I have a sense, an inkling that we might get these documents in the near future.
00:18:44.320 All right.
00:18:44.980 So what was it that the FBI, do you think, was looking for?
00:18:50.800 It's a great question, right?
00:18:52.100 The first possibility is maybe what they said is all that it is, right?
00:18:56.080 This is a dispute between the archives and former President Donald Trump, and they actually
00:19:01.180 went to this unprecedented means to go get documents back by raiding his home.
00:19:05.560 I haven't found any other great explanation for people, and I think that when history looks
00:19:10.720 back, if that's all this was, if this was a dispute over documents, there is a civil
00:19:15.680 process that could have been followed, and that means they will have criminalized a dispute
00:19:20.520 over paper, and with some serious issues involved.
00:19:24.400 And I think there's another part of this, Glenn, that we haven't been able to dig into, and
00:19:27.840 I'm really working on it hard now.
00:19:29.620 It is impossible for this sort of a dispute to go on and become criminalized without the
00:19:36.280 Biden White House knowing.
00:19:37.420 There's just no way the way the system of government works.
00:19:40.220 So what was the Biden White House's role in these conversations?
00:19:44.520 I think that's the next big shoe to drop.
00:19:46.400 I don't know what it is yet, but I'm determined to find out what it is, because the way government
00:19:50.800 works, you've got these issues of privilege, you've got these issues of a dispute between
00:19:55.960 the current administration and the past administration.
00:19:58.360 The Biden White House had to be in the loop, and I don't think their story yet adds up.
00:20:03.140 I have to tell you, just on common sense and the way the world has traditionally worked
00:20:10.060 in America, there's no way a decision that large that would come back to the White House
00:20:17.460 eventually and affect the presidency, not just Biden and Trump, but the entire presidency.
00:20:24.060 There's no way the Justice Department doesn't call and at least give a heads up.
00:20:31.780 Am I wrong?
00:20:33.540 I'm 100% with you, and there's, I think, another issue here.
00:20:36.380 Remember that the grand jury subpoena, which I broke the story a couple weeks ago, was
00:20:41.740 executed on June 3rd in a collaborative way, by the way.
00:20:44.860 Both sides were still working together then.
00:20:47.380 That didn't address the issue of executive privilege.
00:20:50.340 What does that mean?
00:20:51.080 It means somewhere earlier in the process, somebody had to waive executive privilege in
00:20:55.640 order for a grand jury subpoena to be issued for presidential documents.
00:21:01.060 The only, Donald Trump isn't going to be waiving it.
00:21:03.220 I think we're going to find out that the Biden administration waived executive privilege for
00:21:07.400 Trump and that they were deeply involved in the set.
00:21:10.080 That just is the only plausible explanation for why there wouldn't have been a privilege
00:21:14.040 claim back in June when the grand jury first showed, you know, for the subpoena was first
00:21:18.300 executed.
00:21:19.440 So, John, I'm doing a special on Wednesday on the history of the FBI and how corrupt it has
00:21:28.060 been through.
00:21:28.780 I mean, it really was corrupt from the very beginning.
00:21:32.080 You know, we had Hoover doing all kinds of stuff that was really, really dark and bad.
00:21:39.680 Are we at or beyond the Hoover days?
00:21:44.240 Well, listen, one of the big stories I did when I was at the Washington Post and I worked
00:21:47.920 for 60 minutes for 40 years.
00:21:50.720 For 40 years, the FBI would go into it.
00:21:53.400 Take it out of politics for a second.
00:21:54.620 They would go into a case and say, that guy on trial for murder, I can assure you that
00:21:59.320 the bullets we found in his bedroom drawer matches the bullets that were shot out of
00:22:03.820 that gun.
00:22:04.800 And for 40 years, they testified that hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of murder defendants
00:22:11.060 were convicted based on the FBI scientists.
00:22:13.200 The story I broke in 2007 showed the FBI knew all along that that science was junk science.
00:22:20.180 It wasn't true, that they couldn't make such a representation.
00:22:23.720 And yet they continue to do it well past the, well, they did during the Hoover years, well
00:22:28.980 past the, all the way into the mother years.
00:22:31.080 Um, so the history of the FBI, whether it's the church hearings, which really went into
00:22:36.240 the Hoover era or what we've learned, uh, 9-11, uh, the, uh, uh, mistakes in the Oklahoma
00:22:43.640 city bombing, the problems with the FBI lab.
00:22:46.440 This is an agency that has a very, uh, big reputation, but it also has a very big history
00:22:52.340 of abuses time and time and time again.
00:22:55.560 Any way to rein that in?
00:22:57.180 It's a great question.
00:22:59.540 You know, some of the policymakers I've been talking to in Congress for the first time
00:23:03.680 I've heard Republicans tell me privately, you know what, it's time to break up the FBI,
00:23:07.820 maybe have, have, uh, make them like Scotland Yard and put the domestic intelligence into
00:23:12.420 a different agency.
00:23:14.000 Uh, there is clearly a moment of reckoning for the FBI and the, on the immediate, immediate
00:23:18.640 horizon.
00:23:19.360 The real question is if you just take the counterintelligence division out, you put it somewhere else, the
00:23:24.540 mentality still exists that there's not a regard for the constitution.
00:23:27.720 And that's the part, whether it's inside the FBI or outside of it, the, the lack of
00:23:32.640 regard for the fourth amendment, for our liberties in the face of a big government, that's the
00:23:37.960 part that hasn't been crushed out.
00:23:39.360 I'm not sure.
00:23:39.780 Just dividing the FBI solves it.
00:23:42.540 Uh, especially if the intelligence arm, the intelligence agencies are completely out of
00:23:48.920 control, the things I've read about the intelligence agencies and I've heard from people on Capitol
00:23:54.280 Hill is they really don't answer to anybody right now.
00:23:59.460 Yep.
00:24:00.000 They have their own mindset, their own mentality.
00:24:02.440 They feel, and because so much of what they do can stay secret, no matter what, as, as we're
00:24:06.380 seeing in this search warrant today, um, we never get a visibility to know what the, if
00:24:11.600 what they're telling us, the excuse they're giving us is real.
00:24:14.100 And it's only years later, usually through lawsuits and FOIAs that we find out, well,
00:24:18.480 the official story of the intelligence community didn't match what we were told at the time.
00:24:22.620 It's that secrecy that I think creates so much concern.
00:24:25.420 There was an opportunity in the middle of Russia collusion while Republicans were still
00:24:29.200 in control of both to do something, to create a permanent advocate so that all intelligence
00:24:34.220 cases that occurred in secret, there would be someone advocating on behalf of the American
00:24:39.220 whose liberties were about to be violated.
00:24:42.020 They whiffed on that.
00:24:42.920 Paul Ryan whiffed on that.
00:24:44.480 Mitch McConnell whiffed on that.
00:24:45.660 But I think there are a lot of people today that would go back and say, you know, if I
00:24:49.160 had a do over, I'd probably create that public advocate who goes into the court and argues
00:24:53.580 on behalf of you and me and everybody else.
00:24:56.800 So, um, John, what do you think Donald Trump is talking about when he says that, you know,
00:25:02.640 he said over the weekend, it might be within hours, it might be Monday, uh, that I'm going
00:25:07.560 to be filing something and big news coming.
00:25:10.680 What do you think that might be?
00:25:11.900 My reporting indicates that the president is considering, uh, filing a motion to remove,
00:25:17.960 uh, a magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhardt, who, by the way, just a few minutes ago, ruled
00:25:21.920 that the entire affidavit cannot be kept sealed.
00:25:24.020 He believes he used the word unprecedented.
00:25:26.180 I'm glad he recognizes what he approved is unprecedented.
00:25:29.060 Uh, but he is rejecting the justice department's request to keep the affidavit secret.
00:25:33.640 But I believe the, wait, wait, wait, wait, he rejected the, the, the department of justice.
00:25:39.180 This just broke just a few minutes ago.
00:25:41.460 It's up on just the news right now.
00:25:43.140 Judge Reinhardt this morning, uh, said the justice department's request to keep the entire
00:25:47.840 affidavit for the search warrant, uh, under seal is rejected that this is an unprecedented
00:25:53.280 case.
00:25:54.400 It requires transparency.
00:25:55.660 So people can understand why the FBI was authorized to raid a former president's own.
00:26:00.320 So that just happened this morning.
00:26:01.920 That's a, uh, something that the president was cheering on.
00:26:04.700 And how long will it be before we see that?
00:26:07.360 Well, there are two options.
00:26:08.520 Either they have to deliver the unredacted version of the, um, affidavit on Thursday,
00:26:14.580 or a more likely scenario is the justice department will slow walk this, go to a district judge,
00:26:19.560 then go to an appeals court, maybe even go to the Supreme court.
00:26:22.020 Oh my God.
00:26:22.480 My guess is they're going to go that route.
00:26:24.300 But meanwhile, the president, to answer your question, I think the president is going to
00:26:28.360 ask that a special master be appointed, a court appointed independent person, take the documents
00:26:33.920 from the FBI and go through them and say, these are privileged.
00:26:35.980 These are aren't, these are overly expansive.
00:26:38.220 They shouldn't have been collected like your passports and res and not leave the FBI on an
00:26:42.760 honor system, given that all we know.
00:26:44.480 So I think that's what we're going to see the president do.
00:26:46.780 That would be great, John.
00:26:48.600 Thank you so much.
00:26:52.780 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:26:58.360 Rebecca Koffler.
00:27:02.560 Thank you so much for joining us on a short notice as, uh, as yesterday, there was a car
00:27:08.700 bomb.
00:27:09.280 Uh, do you agree with me that it was clearly meant for Alexander Dugan and not his daughter?
00:27:16.940 Well, uh, Hey Glenn, it's such a pleasure to be back on your show with you and your audience.
00:27:22.580 Um, yes, that is the conventional, uh, wisdom that it is the father Alexander Dugan and the
00:27:31.660 mastermind of the ideology of Eurasianism that underpins Putin's entire doctrine and strategy,
00:27:40.000 which includes the destruction of Ukraine.
00:27:42.640 Um, it is him who was the target.
00:27:45.720 However, there's also an alternative, uh, hypothesis is that both of them were targeted because
00:27:54.360 originally they were supposed to be driving in one car from the, uh, lecture and the, um,
00:28:03.800 the big event that Dugan was speaking at.
00:28:07.140 And it is at the last moment that the father Alexander Dugan switched cars.
00:28:14.360 So, and because his daughter was just as vocal in the anti-West, you know, narrative that underpins
00:28:24.820 Russia's current, uh, anti-U.S. policy, she possibly was also the target.
00:28:31.100 Okay.
00:28:31.560 Cause she's also in the media, but, but he is the leader of, of this.
00:28:36.420 Uh, I just think it's a cult all around the world.
00:28:39.100 He is infecting, um, even America with some of his, uh, capital T traditionalism and people
00:28:45.580 just don't understand how dangerous this is.
00:28:48.120 Do you believe that, that it would be in the best interest of Ukraine to try to pull this off?
00:28:54.820 It, okay.
00:28:58.120 So it is hard to tell on the one hand, Ukrainians could perfectly be justified, um, to target
00:29:07.980 this person.
00:29:09.220 Correct.
00:29:09.660 And, uh, Dugan has advocated for the destruction of Ukraine.
00:29:14.940 Right.
00:29:15.440 He's actually calling, if I'm not mistaken, he's actually calling for, um, the, the elimination
00:29:22.840 of Ukrainians, if you will.
00:29:25.180 I don't remember the word he used, but it was, it seemed like a death, uh, Holocaust kind
00:29:30.620 of, uh, thing, but he's calling for more than just occupying.
00:29:34.240 And he is also the, the idea planter or the seed behind, um, Crimea.
00:29:44.300 And now this incursion into, uh, Ukraine.
00:29:48.000 Correct.
00:29:49.540 One hundred percent.
00:29:51.340 So yes, it is possible that there's motive, um, why Ukrainians would want to target now
00:29:58.780 to pull something off like that is not a slam dunk.
00:30:03.500 So a lot of the resources and planning must have gone into this operation.
00:30:08.640 But, uh, let me tell you, um, uh, about Dugan a little more because he's not only anti-Ukraine,
00:30:17.600 he is anti-America.
00:30:20.260 I have a whole chapter in my book dedicated to Alexander Dugan because he's considered to
00:30:26.760 be Putin's brain.
00:30:28.980 His writings, he's a political philosopher, ultra-nationalist.
00:30:33.760 He was the thought leader behind Eurasianism, as I said, with, which underpinned Putin's
00:30:41.960 policy of the so-called Russian world.
00:30:45.480 Okay.
00:30:46.060 And I would like to give you some quotes about Dugan who called on Russia to counteract
00:30:53.480 U.S. policy at all levels in all regions of the world.
00:30:57.680 And specifically, he said that Russia, and I quote, must weaken, demoralize, and deceive
00:31:05.320 in order to win.
00:31:07.220 It is especially important to introduce geopolitical order into America's internal reality, to encourage
00:31:16.080 separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts.
00:31:20.540 activists actively support dissident movements and extremist racist groups and sects, and
00:31:26.900 to destabilize internal processes.
00:31:30.080 So this is who we are talking about.
00:31:33.020 You know, it's a mastermind of a very dangerous ideology, and now his daughter is gone, and
00:31:40.960 the Russians are up in arms about it.
00:31:43.760 The Russian media erupted over the weekend, blaming the United States and blaming Ukraine
00:31:50.680 for what they characterized as a terrorist attack.
00:31:55.740 It is, it's interesting to me that his plan on how to destabilize America, while they say
00:32:04.520 the right is in bed with Putin, the plan that Dugan gave to Putin, it would be everything
00:32:13.260 that the left is involved in.
00:32:15.500 And I don't mean necessarily Democrats, I mean the left of, you know, racial, racial division,
00:32:22.660 et cetera, et cetera.
00:32:24.380 So the media in Russia comes out with this.
00:32:28.660 I don't know if we have any credibility to be able to say we didn't do this.
00:32:33.460 I hope to God we didn't do this.
00:32:37.020 What would be a Putin response?
00:32:43.100 Right.
00:32:44.020 So when the Russians blamed the United States first, they're not saying that we directly
00:32:52.140 actually orchestrated this, but what they are implying, given our support to Ukraine and
00:32:58.960 the fact that we admitted that we provide targeting information to Ukraine so that they could
00:33:06.740 effectively defend their country against the Russian invaders, they, in the same manner,
00:33:13.600 they accused us of having orchestrated this.
00:33:16.780 So the response is going to be, I'm concerned, is further escalation because, again, Dugan is
00:33:27.680 a symbol.
00:33:29.160 And his daughter has turned into a martyr right now, or has been turned by the Russian media.
00:33:36.240 And remember, this attack and the explosion, basically the way that this was done is the
00:33:45.000 explosive device was put under the seat of Hukkan, was remotely detonated.
00:33:50.760 So this explosion comes on the heel of a series of attacks in Crimea.
00:33:58.960 And remember, the Russians believe Crimea is the red line for Ukraine, despite the fact that
00:34:06.160 Crimea is Ukrainian territory, but because the Russians annexed it in 2014, and they consider
00:34:13.720 it part of Russia right now.
00:34:16.200 So in combination, all of this, you know, escalation is going to put pressure on Putin to ratchet
00:34:25.500 up his military assault on Ukraine.
00:34:30.180 And in fact, President Zelensky himself warned yesterday that around Wednesday, this coming
00:34:38.680 Wednesday, in two days, he's concerned about the Russian staging, something really nasty,
00:34:46.520 some provocations, because on Wednesday, it's Ukraine's Independence Day, when Ukraine became
00:34:53.360 independent from the Soviet Union.
00:34:55.100 So I share that concern, whether it's on Wednesday or shortly after.
00:35:02.420 We know that there are plenty of opportunities, specifically one of the extreme, you know, risks,
00:35:09.580 moderate probability, but extremely high risk of a disaster that exists right now.
00:35:17.220 It's related to the nuclear power plant in Zaporozhye, that both sides are accusing each other of shelling.
00:35:25.220 And that is at the risk of erupting in, you know, in possible, hopefully not soon, but there's definitely that risk.
00:35:36.260 So we're talking to Rebecca Koffler.
00:35:38.780 You actually lived in the Soviet Union, if I remember right.
00:35:41.860 Absolutely.
00:35:43.860 I was born and raised there.
00:35:45.520 I came to the United States in 89 as already as a young adult.
00:35:50.800 So I went through the whole, you know, indoctrination system and everything.
00:35:54.860 So she is the author of Putin's playbook and a U.S. intelligence expert.
00:35:59.760 The the idea that we had anything to do with it or that Ukraine did, I find hard to believe because both sides would have to be insane to do it.
00:36:13.360 And it would be very difficult.
00:36:14.680 We could pull it off.
00:36:16.160 But Ukraine pulling it off, I think, would be very, very difficult.
00:36:19.420 The idea that this was some anti-ultranationalist group trying to kill him seems difficult because it would only make him into a martyr.
00:36:35.380 But who would have in Russia who would have the ability and the desire to do this?
00:36:42.600 OK, so I personally don't find the reports that it's, you know, the National Republican Army, which is supposedly an anti-Putin partisan organization that staged this.
00:37:02.960 This is not credible to me.
00:37:05.120 And the intelligence is inconclusive as far as who specifically did this, because it's very, very fresh right now.
00:37:16.040 I am almost certain that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this.
00:37:23.280 The FSB, which is the domestic security services in Russia, has attributed this already to a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vosk, who apparently, according to the FSB, that is.
00:37:43.960 Now, you know, remember, FSB cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean that their analysis and their preliminary investigation isn't correct.
00:37:54.720 Correct.
00:37:55.080 But this is what they have assessed, is that Natalia Vosk entered Russia on July 23rd with her 12-year-old daughter, Sofia Shaban, and reportedly rented an apartment in the same building as Daria Dugin's daughter that was killed.
00:38:15.980 And so and then apparently Natalia fled to Estonia.
00:38:21.440 Now, we need to do more digging.
00:38:25.480 I'm certain that U.S. intelligence is involved in the analysis and in the investigation on our own, you know, here, obviously not, you know, in Russia.
00:38:37.880 But at this point, it's very difficult to tell.
00:38:41.800 Yes, Ukrainians, you know, do claim that there's an anti-Putin movement going in Russia.
00:38:49.540 But remember, Ukrainians are just as adept as the disinformation as the Russians are.
00:38:56.040 And they're fully invested in waging this disinformation in order to dislodge Putin psychologically.
00:39:03.580 They know how it's done.
00:39:05.160 So both sides are, you know, invested in this.
00:39:10.920 And this is going to go on forever.
00:39:13.740 In the meantime, you know, Glenn, we keep pumping in our weaponry into Ukraine.
00:39:20.420 We just announced another $775 million of assistance.
00:39:27.160 We're hoping that it will help Ukraine to change the battlefield conditions.
00:39:33.980 But, again, they're fighting a highly, you know, a much more superior, you know, adversary.
00:39:40.340 And there's no end to this.
00:39:43.800 So, Rebecca, would you do me a favor?
00:39:45.520 I'd like to stay in touch with this this week as this story develops.
00:39:48.960 And we'll check back with you tomorrow if there's any developments.
00:39:53.220 But this is extraordinarily concerning to me.
00:39:57.260 And Americans need to understand who Alexander Dugan is because his tentacles are in America.
00:40:05.700 And he is also he has fans on the right in America.
00:40:12.300 And I think he's an extraordinarily dangerous man.
00:40:16.200 Thank you so much, Rebecca.
00:40:17.540 Absolutely.
00:40:18.360 Good.
00:40:18.700 Yes, you got it.
00:40:20.140 All right.
00:40:20.440 Rebecca Koffler.
00:40:21.860 The name of her book is Putin's.
00:40:25.180 Hang on just a second.
00:40:26.060 Let me playbook.
00:40:27.380 Putin's playbook.
00:40:28.280 Na, na, na, na.