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00:17:21.680Jonathan Cahn is with us and he has written a new,
00:17:24.860uh, I would call it a faction, uh, novel. It's, it's not, it's not just facts. It's also wrapped
00:17:31.820in fiction. It's my favorite kind of book that you learn stuff that is true, but it's wrapped
00:17:36.460in a great story. Um, it's called the altar of, uh, is it paramon, per, per, peragmon? How do you
00:17:45.000say it? Uh, Pergamon, Pergamon, Pergamon, the altar, which, um, I've learned an awful lot about.
00:17:52.760I had heard stuff about it and, you know, when doing research on, you know, the religious views or the occult views of Hitler and I know this played a role in a lot of the architecture, etc., etc.
00:18:08.440But you explain this in a way that is absolutely fascinating.
00:20:07.300but when the gospel comes to the world probably comes into the roman world they abandon the gods0.90
00:20:13.920they abandon their altars and the all the altar of pergamon goes into the dust goes into ruins and
00:20:19.420so so hang on just a second where is pergamon where is that in the world pergamon is in asia
00:20:24.760minor at the time that these things are going to happen it was the ottoman empire and today
00:20:28.480it is turkey okay it's the east the coast of turkey yeah one of the seven churches of revelation
00:20:33.560and and the thing is that so it's buried there for the ages you know and and you know and again
00:20:40.120some of this when i'm writing this is why it sounds like a movie or sounds like indiana jones
00:20:44.300there's a throne of satan in the dust what would happen if it was uncovered if it was brought back
00:20:49.940into the world well it was and when it was things started happening changing in the world to this
00:20:56.860It is fascinating. I don't even know. I'm at chapter 56, and you're now into the Soviet Union era, but you talk about when it was found and the things that happened that year and how that—and we're still feeling the effects of that year today.
00:21:18.040it's what started this whole whole ball rolling um yes so explain yeah how did they find it where
00:21:25.460did it and where did it go and then how did it end up in hitler's hands yeah yeah this is it's
00:21:31.920amazing this is 1871 and a guy comes from across from basically from europe comes there and you're
00:21:38.420so this is totally right that year produces you know when they when they get that's when they're
00:21:43.140going to get the altar or they're going to find it from this is going to become world war one you
00:21:47.380see the roots of it, World War II, and of course, everything we're going to see in Germany. So what
00:21:51.220happens is this guy comes, his name is Karl Humann, he doesn't know what it is, he sees runes, he takes
00:21:56.520two pieces of it, sends it back to his homeland. Now, and from that moment, that land is going to
00:22:03.180be joined to the altar or throne of Satan. And so it's going to start changing. So what's the land?
00:22:08.500Well, the land is Germany. And so, in fact, Germany, people don't realize this, they think
00:22:13.040Germany's been around like England and France. Germany came into the world in 1871 as a nation,
00:22:18.000same time that the throne of Satan comes into the world, and it begins this joining. And you have0.91
00:22:24.780that area, the beginning of German nationalism, German militism, official, which is going to0.55
00:22:29.920change the world. And at the same time, Glenn, there's another guy, another German guy named
00:22:34.640Heinrich Schliemann, and he's looking for Troy. He's looking for the lost city of Troy. He ends
00:22:39.680up in the same region as the altar of pergament that same coast and he discovers all these ancient
00:22:45.160signs and these ancient signs are about almost 2 000 of them and they go and they come into the0.80
00:22:50.160world make a big sensation germany loves it it's the swastika so in the same year you've got the0.87
00:22:56.540throne of satan you've got germany coming to the world throne of satan and you have the swastika0.79
00:23:01.220coming in the world so now they don't know right now they don't know which the altar of pergament0.76
00:23:05.500and they don't know which the throne of satan so what what happens is in the in the next years they
00:23:09.180realize it's the altar of pergamon they're not reading their bible so they're not seeing the
00:23:12.880evil part of this and so they they they have a team german uh including carl whom on the guy
00:23:18.260who discovered it and they're digging it up they start unearthing it um in 1878 so they're and it's
00:23:24.620massive i mean this is a massive object and they put it into it's like this is again indiana jokes
00:23:29.600they put into crates put it on a shit they put it on chips they go goes across the ocean ends up in0.52
00:23:35.140Europe, they end up sending it to Berlin. So now you're moving, and this took a few years, but it0.96
00:23:40.940starts in 1878. And so you're moving the place where Satan dwells, or throne of Satan, to Berlin.
00:23:47.880I mean, total. I mean, so it's in massive pieces and all that. And the same moment, you know what
00:23:54.060the Bible says, and Glenn, you speak about this, and one of the things I greatly appreciate about0.94
00:23:58.700you, you stand for this very strongly, we have a revival of anti-Semitism now. Anti-Israel,
00:24:04.020anti-Semitism. Well, the word anti-Semitism is actually a new word. I mean, it's an old hatred,
00:24:09.120but it's a new form. It's actually a movement, an ideology. Where was it born? It was born in
00:24:14.180Germany when at the moment that the altar comes to Germany, same year, anti-Semitism, the word
00:24:21.540comes in, the movement comes in. And so Germany starts transforming. This starts spreading
00:24:26.160throughout Germany. And also there's an occult revival. When the altar comes, occult. So people
00:24:31.180don't realize this before hitler came there was a cult mixing with anti-semitism and it would
00:24:36.960produce an explosion you have to read you would love this book and it's very scholarly it's not
00:24:42.000an easy book to get through um but it's called uh hitler's monsters and it explains you've read
00:24:49.460it it's great isn't it uh yes and it shows this toxic stew that and i think we're repeating it
00:24:57.660right now we just don't know we're doing it i don't think they knew what they were doing at the
00:25:00.920time but it's it's this merging of all of these um legends and myths and witchcraft and all of
00:25:11.020this stuff into this stew and that's what eventually gives us the ideology of the nazis
00:25:17.820yeah yeah that you know people don't realize i mean the nazis were well you know there's an
00:25:22.740occult thing here and the thing is that this is the other thing which i i think i mean you're on
00:25:26.820that because what happened with germany germany you know this is where the reformation came from
00:25:31.180the work but it was turning away from god they were actually they're actually attacking the bible
00:25:36.060they introduced higher criticism which is kind of trying to say attack the word god and this is the
00:25:40.860place once you drive god out you're opening the door and we're seeing this in america's i believe
00:25:45.580it's absolutely right there's an explosion of the occult and revival of anti-semitism so it
00:25:50.940absolutely it relates to us now and the thing that they do man is you know it ends up the pieces end
00:25:57.860up in berlin and they say okay we're going to rebuild it you know and they're not thinking
00:26:01.660throne of satan they don't know but they're thinking altar of pergola well they start
00:26:05.360rebuilding it in the 1880s they finish it in 1889 now so now for the first time since ancient times
00:26:11.520is piecing to piece together the throne of satan is appearing same time something else appears in
00:26:17.180the world, a baby, and they give him, he's born, he's given the name Adolf Hitler. Hitler comes0.70
00:26:23.720into the world with a throne of Satan. His whole life is going to be linked to the throne of Satan,0.88
00:26:29.960his life, his rise, everything to this altar. And, you know, you spoke about like the occult,
00:26:36.880you know, there's another German guy goes to Turkey, same land of the altar, and he brings
00:26:43.980back this occultic knowledge that he wants to reveal to germany and he starts an organization0.52
00:26:49.720a society called the fool society occult occult totally occult the occult the school society
00:26:54.800gives birth to a little party called what's going to be called the nazi party and then one day that0.92
00:27:00.480child who's born with the the throne of satan is going to enter their their meeting and the rest
00:27:05.460is going to be history where is this now the the altar program is still in the world okay i gotta
00:27:13.180to say something i didn't know glenn i mean before i do a book i'm always praying okay what's the
00:27:17.760book what's the next book and i and i'm writing it i had no idea that the the altar program in
00:27:23.640i knew it was in berlin right but the thing is the thing is they've been it's been hidden for
00:27:29.060about 10 years for the and they are going to release it to the world this coming year release
00:27:34.900it to the world and when that happens as we'll see when that happens good you know it's not good
00:27:39.500things good luck germany good luck not like they not like they need any help and good luck for the
00:27:44.360rest of the world um but uh yeah i had just read that and i didn't know if that was true or not i
00:27:49.520read it in passing that it was it was going back on display but it's enormous how big is it
00:27:54.320it is about you know it's in some ways that this is like a it's like an anti-arc of the covenant
00:28:00.960it's like an anti that whole story it is about a hundred feet wide and a hundred feet deep so it
00:28:07.660is massive so that's why that's why it came in pieces i mean thousands of pieces and that's why
00:28:12.840it was massive to put it back together again and so they've been kind of storing it and kind of
00:28:18.200redoing whatever they're kind of repairing and renewing it and they're going to have this big
00:28:22.800opening i think it's june of 2027 and and the thing is that this goes with it because when they
00:28:29.040they released it the the other time that's when hitler rose to power in fact in fact that museum
00:28:44.480And then in 1928, the Nazis only got, they got 2% of the vote.0.90
00:28:49.640They look like they're the way out.0.84
00:28:51.120But then two years later, the altar is released in the autumn of 1930.0.77
00:28:55.180And in the autumn of 1930, there's another election and Hitler, the Nazis become from 2%, become the number two party in Germany, then number one.0.81
00:29:04.680and then they take over. And so now Hitler is literally, people don't realize it, is ruling0.77
00:29:10.500from Berlin where the throne of Satan is. I mean, the Third Reich, the throne of Satan. I mean,0.80
00:29:16.560you can't make this up. It's kind of like obvious, you know, but it was all there.
00:29:21.280So then after the war, the altar does not fall into the hands of the allies. It falls into the
00:29:29.200hands of stalin yeah if i can glad just one thing leading up to if you're okay with it yeah yes it's
00:29:36.840going to fall into hands of another but one two things about hitler when he when he comes to power
00:29:41.060he he says i want to i want a platform i want to speak to them a colossal platform to speak to the
00:29:46.000masses so they build him a platform albert speer his architect and he actually admitted what's
00:29:50.300hitler standing on when he's going crazy was a massive reproduction of the altar of pergamin
00:29:56.960It's the, he's literally standing on the, like, the mega throne of Satan when you're
00:31:50.860You know, so the last one was him, and that goes to where you were.0.83
00:31:53.680So Hitler's gone. The altar has no owner.
00:31:57.900You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast.
00:32:00.560Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts.
00:32:06.260Chris Salcedo is a good friend of the program, good friend of the blaze and now a part of Torch Audio Radio, which will be officially launched very soon.
00:32:18.620Chris is going to be the morning host, and it will precede me, but he's also the author of The Rise of the Liberty-Loving Latino, A New American Revolution, and I want to talk to you about that as well.
00:38:01.680Pipelines. Exactly. People don't understand that we're they're buying time trying to get a Congress elected that will stop this war.
00:38:10.360And Trump is buying time saying, just hold on, because even if I can't get these nut jobs out of there, the pipelines, they cut off all of their power.0.52
00:38:22.240They're building pipelines that will begin in 2020. I mean, begin functioning at the end of 2027.0.95
00:38:27.3602027. I was listening to Katie McFarland. She says about 40 to 60 percent of oil is already
00:38:31.960flowing through some of these pipelines. It's amazing. And again, that's what the president,
00:38:37.840that's what I want to hear from the president. It's what I want to hear from the Republicans
00:38:40.380that will be speaking at the RNC. What do you hope that they will say? What is the message
00:38:44.220you think would connect with the American people that they could possibly say? Well,
00:38:48.060that we know and understand what's going on. We see the increased costs. We see what's going on
00:38:54.380in the united states with with the bottom line we ran on affordability but look
00:38:58.420here are the stakes i think when the american people know the stakes and that there's a light0.51
00:39:02.920at the end of the tunnel which of course after 21 years of afghanistan the the war that bush got us
00:39:08.620into for no one for no explicable reason uh if we could see the light at the end of the tunnel we
00:39:15.740find out what the stakes are i don't think you would find many well well-meaning americans who
00:39:20.740would say, you know what, I want to save money on the gas and I'm willing to accept nuclear weapons in a terrorist regime.
00:39:28.760No, no, no. Americans will say, look, yeah, I get the stakes, but I think it would be.0.60
00:42:10.260And the Democrats, they won't tolerate moderate Democrats if you're not all in on Marxism.
00:42:20.040Right. And yet they'll still the moderate, maybe the two or three Democrats in Washington that are like, hey, I'm warning these guys, they will still in the end come together with the Marxists.
00:42:35.120I'm so glad you said it. I was just noting that the other day. All these Democrats are, oh, we don't like Hassan Piker. We don't like all of this communism, socialism.
00:42:44.440Oh, yeah. What are you going to do? Are you going to pull a John Cornyn and go out and campaign against those those Democrats, socialists, those communists?
00:42:50.040No, no, no. Are you going to raise money? Are you going to are you going to actually do what Lisa Murkowski did and vote for a Republican, vote for the opposite party?
00:42:57.040You know, Lisa Murkowski, big time Democrat supporter as a Republican.
00:43:00.900And these are the kinds of Republicans we must have in the Congress.
00:43:04.880It's like so. And you said it right. President Trump is universally by himself.
00:43:10.500It's the America First Coalition, the new divide in this country, the political divide, the America First Coalition versus the America Last Crowd.
00:43:17.560And there are members of both parties on both sides.
00:45:30.360You bet. Chris Salcedo. He is the host of the Chris Salcedo Show, and you will be hearing more about him and more of him on Torch Audio, which is launching soon.
00:45:42.480I don't even know how people are listening to it, but I know people are listening to it now. Anyway, Chris, thank you so much. I appreciate it.