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00:00:29.960 Tucker Carlson is the latest.

00:00:32.080 I don't know how they're going to stand up against this barrage.

00:00:35.360 This is a, this is an evil organization, Media Matters, that has gone in and tried to find stuff that nobody was pissed about, that they can be pissed about.

00:00:46.760 Uh, we talk about that, uh, at length today.

00:00:49.920 Kind of something that went all the way through the show.

00:00:52.520 We also have Justin Haskins on.

00:00:54.480 He's a guy who wrote, uh, a book called Socialism is Evil.

00:00:59.000 We had David J. Harris on.

00:01:01.160 He's a guy who was giving speeches at, uh, Blexit in, uh, Los Angeles.

00:01:06.760 He's a guy who really never was political at all. 0.99

00:01:09.780 And then we started talking about, hey, let's kill babies shortly after birth. 0.95

00:01:15.220 He's not silent anymore. 0.98

00:01:17.760 Also, we had a call from Bubba the Love Sponge to talk about the Tucker Carlson debacle and John Lott.

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00:03:09.180 On Tucker Carlson, he responded to what Media Matters is doing now to him.

00:03:17.000 We've seen this movie before.

00:03:19.900 We've seen somebody chased out by something they said in old comments.

00:03:24.740 But the comments that I have seen are from a Bubba the Love Sponge show, which isn't always known for its tact and its acceptance in polite society.

00:03:40.760 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:03:41.620 I was amazed at all the people, the blue check marks on Twitter, shocked that there could be a show named Bubba the Love Sponge coming from, I swear, the same people who wrote think piece after think piece about how the death of Gawker was the death of journalism.

00:03:54.880 You do remember that he was very prominent in that story with Hulk Hogan, and that was the whole story surrounded Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:04:04.580 The guy's one of the most successful radio hosts in the country and has been for a long time.

00:04:09.360 These are the same people that listen to Howard Stern every day.

00:04:13.160 Stop it.

00:04:14.240 Oh, my panties are so dainty. 1.00

00:04:16.340 Oh, shut up. 0.99

00:04:17.380 Oh, at one point, they're like, you know, he's like, Elena Kagan is not attractive. 0.99

00:04:21.600 And then they have the cable news thing that they do, Glenn, because they'll play the clips, and it's like Tucker Carlson says something that's offensive, and then comes out to silence.

00:04:31.600 Wow.

00:04:34.120 I.

00:04:36.620 Okay.

00:04:40.280 Okay.

00:04:41.320 Hold on.

00:04:42.840 Let me just gather myself.

00:04:44.000 He just.

00:04:45.220 No, he just stated.

00:04:46.920 I just.

00:04:47.740 Oh, I am.

00:04:49.560 What?

00:04:50.040 I can't.

00:04:50.580 Can you even.

00:04:51.800 Wow.

00:04:52.760 A lot of people might.

00:04:53.660 This is how I got my job on CNN.

00:04:55.760 Hold on.

00:04:57.280 Woo.

00:04:58.200 I've never. 0.98

00:04:59.380 He said darn. 0.97

00:05:01.380 Hold on. 1.00

00:05:04.160 Pull yourself together.

00:05:05.000 Pull yourself together.

00:05:05.600 Pull yourself together.

00:05:06.100 You can know you can get through this.

00:05:06.880 You know you can get through this.

00:05:08.260 Oh, my gosh.

00:05:11.240 Okay.

00:05:11.560 You.

00:05:12.320 You heard that.

00:05:13.840 I.

00:05:14.280 He.

00:05:14.760 They have not.

00:05:15.480 Oh, my.

00:05:16.060 Could we play.

00:05:17.140 Could we play the clip again?

00:05:18.840 Could we play the clip again?

00:05:19.560 I don't think I could hear that again.

00:05:21.220 All right.

00:05:21.440 No.

00:05:22.320 This fake outrage.

00:05:24.920 So bad.

00:05:25.340 Is so bad.

00:05:26.200 You are not outraged by the woman who had to take her 17 year old daughter in her arms.

00:05:34.560 She weighs 20 pounds.

00:05:37.480 20.

00:05:38.320 20.

00:05:39.940 She had to take her up in her own arms and walk her to the morgue because the socialist can't run a power plant. 1.00

00:05:51.860 She died.

00:05:53.780 She starved to death under socialism.

00:05:58.100 You people brought that to Venezuela.

00:06:02.700 You are the very people that held Chavez up as a great model.

00:06:08.660 You were the people that cheered that Barack Obama took that anti-American book from Chavez.

00:06:16.540 You said this was great.

00:06:18.780 Now you're saying, oh, well, yes, but it's not Chavez.

00:06:21.440 It's Maduro.

00:06:22.340 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:06:24.380 That's called democratic socialism.

00:06:28.220 You want the people to be able to vote.

00:06:32.740 And they did.

00:06:33.920 They voted in a bus driver who could feel the pain of the people.

00:06:40.900 And then he became president.

00:06:43.780 And lo and behold, he didn't know how to run the country.

00:06:49.240 You see, you have a problem when you set something up under one guy.

00:06:54.700 And then you have a democracy, a democracy, not a republic, a democracy that has direct elections.

00:07:02.560 And so they elected this guy because socialism is neat and he'll give us even more stuff.

00:07:09.720 And as soon as it went wrong, guess what happens?

00:07:13.080 He shuts off elections.

00:07:15.040 He tampers with the elections.

00:07:17.620 Now you can claim, well, he wasn't, he wasn't really elected.

00:07:21.560 Yes, he was once.

00:07:23.640 This is how it always ends with democratic socialists.

00:07:28.820 This is the way it always ends.

00:07:32.000 And you are upset about something that Tucker Carlson said on a comedy show, a show called

00:07:40.020 Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:07:43.060 You are somehow shocked and horrified that he might have said something in 2006.

00:07:50.680 And anyone who defends Tucker Carlson, oh my gosh, well, look at the anti-female, the misogynist,

00:08:00.240 the anti-homosexual tirade just continues now with this person.

00:08:06.860 No, no, no, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with anything that Tucker Carlson said, but I am not going to be outraged by something that was said in a comedic sense in 2006 when people have to go carry their dead children who weighed more at their death than my six-year-old son did.

00:08:31.860 And they're 10 years older.

00:08:34.860 I really am going to kind of put my outrage in the right place.

00:08:41.100 And I really, really am not going to accept the moral outrage and the moral lectures from Media Matters.

00:08:53.100 Media Matters is the biggest hack job you've ever seen.

00:08:58.000 It is a direct threat to the American Republic.

00:09:03.760 And anyone who is a journalist, you are being fed propaganda and you're gobbling it up knowingly.

00:09:14.000 You know who these people are.

00:09:16.540 You don't care. 0.81

00:09:18.500 You'll take anyone to just anyone who stands in your way and you will just paint them all the same and you'll destroy them.

00:09:30.340 I got news for you.

00:09:31.900 After you lose the voices like mine, like Tucker's, people who will actually stand up for you when you are in trouble for what you said and you,

00:09:44.140 we will stand up and I have a long record of it standing up for people like Bill Maher weeks after 9-11 and ABC fires him.

00:09:55.240 I have a record of standing up for James Gunn who said horrible things about a friend of mine, but I didn't think he should be fired.

00:10:04.540 I will stand up for you, but after you silence voices like me, oh, I will be standing somewhere, be it under a bridge or in a prison.

00:10:20.160 It doesn't matter where they put me.

00:10:22.180 All I want is access to a little bit of news to watch, to see how long it will be before you join me under that bridge,

00:10:33.240 before you join me in the next cell, because after they come for us, they come for you.

00:10:40.040 But maybe, perhaps, oh, I wish, I hope, oh, rainbows are ponies.

00:10:47.520 Yes, I know you believe that this time they'll get it right.

00:10:53.640 But seeing democratic socialism seems to always end the same way.

00:11:00.600 I'll see you under that bridge soon.

00:11:06.800 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:11:08.820 In the free market system, Stu, I could come up with my Cinnabon perfume, and I'd let the market, I'd let the people decide,

00:11:23.280 not like you in your socialist democracy.

00:11:27.720 I have Justin Haskins on who's going to agree with me.

00:11:31.640 The free market is the right way to figure this Cinnabon thing out, isn't it, Justin?

00:11:35.760 Yeah, I think it's the right way to go.

00:11:39.420 I certainly don't want the government coming up with a Cinnabon perfume.

00:11:43.840 Well, they wouldn't.

00:11:45.420 They wouldn't.

00:11:46.640 They wouldn't.

00:11:47.380 Good point.

00:11:48.280 They would never do that.

00:11:49.100 They would never do that.

00:11:49.900 They don't know what the people want.

00:11:51.060 Right.

00:11:52.180 All right.

00:11:52.740 So you're the author of Socialism is Evil, and I've been reading it, and it's a quick read.

00:11:59.560 It's like, what is it, 80 pages?

00:12:01.560 Yeah, like 75 pages or something.

00:12:02.960 So it's a quick read, and it is made for, you have anybody in your life that is a socialist.

00:12:09.540 You have anybody going to school that is a socialist.

00:12:12.660 This is a quick starter on why socialism is evil.

00:12:17.580 And I wanted to get you on to make the case, but I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

00:12:22.640 First of all, tell me the difference between socialism and communism and democratic socialism.

00:12:30.740 Is there a difference?

00:12:33.160 Yeah.

00:12:33.480 In my opinion, there's absolutely no difference at all.

00:12:36.500 And actually, if you read a lot of socialist material produced by modern socialist parties today,

00:12:42.700 the Socialist Party of Great Britain, various socialist groups in the United States,

00:12:46.380 they will flat out say there's basically no difference between communism and socialism.

00:12:51.260 And that democratic socialism, what's being called democratic socialism or European-style socialism,

00:12:56.800 this is basically just incrementalism.

00:12:59.600 It's moving us toward this grand socialist utopia that Karl Marx has all mapped out for us in the future.

00:13:06.800 They don't want to do it right now at this very moment because they realize that people aren't ready for it.

00:13:11.780 They would never go for it.

00:13:13.120 But they want to move us in that direction.

00:13:15.380 And at the end of the day, the bull is the same.

00:13:17.900 We want to go to a world where everybody has exactly what they need and nobody has what they want.

00:13:24.680 We have, Justin, I have said this recently.

00:13:28.720 And every time I say it, people are like, oh, no, no, no.

00:13:31.340 I believe we are at the end of the American progressive era.

00:13:35.500 The progressives took it now as far as they can take it.

00:13:39.580 Now it's time to take off the mask because progressive was really European socialism.

00:13:47.360 It is, let's take this and we're not going to cause a riot or, well, riots we will cause, but no revolution.

00:13:55.240 We don't want blood in the streets.

00:13:56.780 We're just going to move it incrementally and people will eventually want it and we'll call it progressivism.

00:14:03.620 Now we're at the point to where you got to name it.

00:14:07.040 And what you're naming is not America.

00:14:11.480 It is a fundamental flipping of the Constitution and of the Bill of Rights.

00:14:17.880 And it's now socialism.

00:14:21.040 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:14:23.320 We're moving toward a society at a rapid pace where you don't have any individual rights.

00:14:29.820 You don't have any individual property rights.

00:14:31.620 You don't really have freedom of speech.

00:14:33.300 We're seeing that slowly being eroded away, that all of these things are going to go away in favor of the collective.

00:14:39.380 Because the collective is what really matters.

00:14:41.880 And anyone who's interested in this should read the Soviet Constitution.

00:14:45.300 The Soviet Constitution is amazing.

00:14:47.180 It's schizophrenic.

00:14:48.380 In some parts it says you have freedom of, you have a right to freely practice your religion or free speech.

00:14:56.140 And then in other parts it says, well, only if it doesn't bother the collective.

00:15:00.020 If it gets in the way of what the collective wants, well, then actually you don't really have those rights.

00:15:04.400 And that's what modern democratic socialism in the United States is moving us toward.

00:15:09.920 This society where you as an individual don't matter.

00:15:12.660 What matters is what the collective wants.

00:15:14.620 And if your desires, your beliefs, your religious beliefs, your moral beliefs, if that gets in the way of what's good for the collective, and who gets to decide that, well, the collective, I guess, then too bad for you. 0.86

00:15:27.760 You need to just shut up and sit down.

00:15:31.420 Democratic socialism. 0.99

00:15:32.580 They're saying, no, we want democracy.

00:15:36.400 We want people to have the vote.

00:15:38.480 But then they deny when something like Venezuela happens.

00:15:42.780 They'll say, oh, well, that's not a democratic socialist.

00:15:45.680 Well, yes, Maduro was elected until the wheels came off.

00:15:51.440 And then he said, you know, because we're in a dangerous situation now.

00:15:55.720 I can't let that election happen the way it's supposed to happen.

00:15:59.080 And then he rigged the election and eventually stops all elections.

00:16:03.260 That is the logical conclusion, because you could hire Jesus, but Jesus, because he's not really Jesus, is going to die.

00:16:13.580 You could have Gandhi do it.

00:16:15.580 But once he dies, the next guy comes in and people vote him in.

00:16:20.840 If he's corrupt, it's autocratic.

00:16:23.320 There's no restraint on him.

00:16:27.020 Yeah, that's true.

00:16:28.360 And even if you could have, and this is something I get into in the book, even if you could have this mythical world where everyone is collectively owning and managing property and everybody is happy with collectively owning and managing property temporarily, even if you could somehow do this without completely eroding people's liberty, without throwing people into concentration camps and doing all the things that socialists and communist parties have done for the past 100 years, you need to find a way to do that.

00:16:55.560 You still have important moral controversies that occur in life.

00:17:01.700 For instance, in a single-payer health care system, do you pay for abortion or not?

00:17:05.560 Do you pay for contraception or not?

00:17:07.820 Are you going to force nuns to pay for abortion and contraception or aren't you?

00:17:11.420 If you have a socialized health care system, you can't escape those questions.

00:17:15.660 The collective decides what society is going to do.

00:17:18.420 And if you happen to be in the minority, if you're a moral minority, well, too bad.

00:17:22.980 You either have to go along or you have to go to prison.

00:17:25.920 But those are your only two options.

00:17:28.980 You bring up the moral case, and this is part of what you're talking about.

00:17:33.000 To me, the moral case for the free market is dirt strong, and the moral case against socialism perhaps is even stronger because of things, as you point out, you're going to have to, you know, alcohol, you say in the book.

00:17:55.440 Alcohol, 40% of America, I can't believe it's that high, but 40% of America says, you know, drinking is immoral.

00:18:03.840 Well, are they going to be, are they going to have to own the alcohol production?

00:18:10.700 And how do you force somebody to do it?

00:18:12.580 You mentioned it with birth control.

00:18:14.300 But there's more to the moral case, and I think we're seeing it in Venezuela. 0.65

00:18:20.100 You're killing people.

00:18:23.040 Yeah, and that's the thing.

00:18:24.880 I think socialism inevitably leads to complete chaos because any time you try to force people to receive the same amount of wealth for doing the same amount of work as people who are working not nearly as hard as you are, it's a race to the bottom across an entire society.

00:18:43.160 People stop working hard because there's no incentive to work hard, and normally you incentivize people by giving them a profit, by paying them more money.

00:18:51.500 But you can't do that in a socialist society.

00:18:53.880 So how do you convince people to work harder?

00:18:56.180 Well, you put a gun to the back of their head, and you say, work harder.

00:18:59.520 And if you say, well, we don't like this, then you go to prison. 0.93

00:19:02.400 You go to the internment camp, and you learn your lesson, and then you get to come back in society and be a slave for the rest of your life.

00:19:08.360 That's how socialism inevitably works.

00:19:10.740 It fails every single time because it's in fundamental violation of human nature.

00:19:16.360 Right, and you get into this, socialism's fatal flaw, where you talk about its flaw is that.

00:19:26.660 It denies human nature.

00:19:29.880 But expand on that.

00:19:32.160 Expand on that.

00:19:32.900 Humans, as I was just saying, humans are motivated by their own individual achievements, by their own goals, by what would benefit them and their families.

00:19:47.320 That's just a fact.

00:19:48.940 That's what motivates humans.

00:19:50.240 Again, socialism flips that on its head and says, stop caring about yourself.

00:19:55.660 Stop caring about your family.

00:19:57.600 Stop caring about your kids.

00:19:59.240 None of that matters.

00:20:00.320 What matters is the collective.

00:20:01.900 Sacrifice yourself for the good of the collective.

00:20:04.540 And when you try to do that, I mean, just think about this in your personal life.

00:20:08.160 Think about this in your own workplace.

00:20:10.240 I mean, everybody who's worked a job knows that there are people at the company who aren't working quite as hard as you're working, and how that makes people feel around the office.

00:20:19.780 I mean, it never works out well because at a fundamental human level, we understand that it's not fair to reward people equally for disproportionate amounts of work.

00:20:31.700 Even kids understand this.

00:20:33.860 This is basic human nature.

00:20:37.100 And yet, Karl Marx and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders and all of these people would like to pretend that these things don't exist.

00:20:46.280 This whole system is completely delusional.

00:20:50.020 And when you read Communist Manifesto, that's what you walk away with.

00:20:53.540 You say, well, how can – a lot of people talk about, well, why do kids on college campuses read Communist Manifesto and become socialist?

00:21:02.300 And, you know, obviously, there are a lot of professors out there indoctrinating kids with communism and socialist ideas.

00:21:09.120 No question about that.

00:21:10.440 But I think that a simpler solution is that they're just all high and drunk and stoned out of their minds, and that those are the only people who would ever find this to be an appealing system.

00:21:21.480 It doesn't make sense.

00:21:22.660 You know what?

00:21:24.180 If you've had four joints, then, yeah, Communist Manifesto makes a lot of sense.

00:21:29.080 But if you're not stoned, it's completely illogical.

00:21:32.740 Like, I said, even little kids understand this.

00:21:34.860 Well, they say that communism – or socialism – socialism is about sharing.

00:21:44.220 And, yes, kids don't – you know, you say they understand that socialism is wrong or the Communist Manifesto doesn't make sense.

00:21:52.760 But that's why we have to teach children about sharing, because they don't automatically know about sharing.

00:21:59.220 And that's what that's about.

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00:22:23.880 I have been saying for a while that courage is contagious, and we need to look for people with courage and highlight them and show them to our sons and daughters, because it is contagious.

00:22:38.280 When you see somebody who is standing up against all the odds, you – well, at least in the America that I know, you can't help but admire them.

00:22:48.220 I want to introduce you to one of those guys with tons of courage, David Harris, Jr.

00:22:53.440 He is the author of Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

00:22:57.120 Welcome.

00:22:57.820 Glenn, amazing to be on your show today, brother.

00:23:00.020 Thank you so much for having me.

00:23:01.000 I'm honored to have you.

00:23:01.760 Honored to have you.

00:23:02.520 Honored to be here.

00:23:03.260 You are a guy – I want to start young.

00:23:05.360 You're a guy who was raised in a Christian home.

00:23:08.700 Yes. 0.99

00:23:09.440 You're a black man, in case anybody's listening on radio and doesn't know. 0.97

00:23:14.380 And I've got to add, biracial. 0.96

00:23:16.380 My mom is white.

00:23:17.140 Okay. 0.56

00:23:17.740 My dad is black. 0.84

00:23:18.700 Okay.

00:23:19.160 So most people, when they look at me, they don't think anything other.

00:23:23.340 I'm a part of the black community, but I have an interesting dynamic in the book where I talk about I got to enjoy family gatherings at my mom's side of the family, family gatherings at my dad's side of the family, and how completely different they were.

00:23:39.420 But I've dealt with my share, plenty share of racism.

00:23:41.860 So let's talk about that, because you then really could complain that you don't fit in either.

00:23:50.260 I felt that way for a long time, actually.

00:23:52.460 Okay.

00:23:52.700 I did.

00:23:53.420 Growing up in a very small town in Northern California, predominantly white, I did get picked on by the black folks, because most of my friends were white.

00:24:02.400 I didn't see color.

00:24:03.620 I just saw who was nice to me, who was a nice person, who did I want to hang out with.

00:24:09.020 So I dealt with it from the black side of some of the black folks in my city. 0.89

00:24:14.860 But then I also dealt with it from those that looked at me, and all they saw was black.

00:24:19.000 So it's very, very interesting.

00:24:20.800 How'd you get past that?

00:24:24.540 Throughout the years, I mean, that's a long answer to that question.

00:24:30.880 And I know what eventually got me through it was coming to the recognition, the understanding of how good God is.

00:24:39.020 And his love then changed my perspective on life.

00:24:42.000 So let me go back to that through this door, because I want you to talk about you were a drug dealer when you were young.

00:24:49.320 Absolutely.

00:24:49.860 Okay.

00:24:50.260 So take me through that and the change.

00:24:52.500 So 15, 16 years old, I was pretty popular in school as a dancer.

00:25:00.380 I danced with one of Michael Jackson's choreographers.

00:25:03.660 He brought me to Hollywood.

00:25:04.660 He wanted to do some things with me.

00:25:06.380 So I was pretty...

00:25:06.880 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:25:07.620 In today's world, you should...

00:25:09.440 Michael Jackson wanted to do some things with you?

00:25:11.480 The choreographer.

00:25:11.640 Okay.

00:25:11.980 Wanted to do things in Hollywood.

00:25:13.300 Okay.

00:25:13.820 He wanted to induce me.

00:25:15.480 Yes, absolutely.

00:25:16.700 I did some dance gigs with him in Hollywood.

00:25:18.840 Yes.

00:25:19.220 In today's day and age, you do have to clarify that.

00:25:21.400 Yes.

00:25:22.000 So I was a mixed up kid, though, I think because of not only being biracial, not only dealing with racism from both sides,

00:25:31.000 but then also my parents going through divorce when I was nine.

00:25:34.080 I leave school at nine years old like any normal day, and my dad is in the van with a bunch of stuff in it.

00:25:39.720 We get in the van, and we drive to Redding, California from Oregon.

00:25:44.660 And I didn't see my mom again until a couple months later when we were in court.

00:25:48.560 And the judge asked me, he brought me to his chambers, and he said, who do you want to live with?

00:25:54.040 And all I could think of was my dad was, well, if it was a choice I had to make, my dad was big.

00:26:01.080 He was a very buff guy.

00:26:02.640 He always looked like two Mr. T's, squashed into one, six, three, 240, chiseled.

00:26:07.380 And he was black.

00:26:08.440 And so I said, well, honestly, I said, well, my dad, because I look more like him, not having any understanding of what was really going on,

00:26:18.920 that really shaped a lot of the heartache that I felt and that I grew through.

00:26:24.440 Because then my father, he loved me in ways by providing for me.

00:26:28.600 I found out later that he actually took me out of the house because things weren't going well with my mom.

00:26:33.500 And she was doing some things that weren't admirable.

00:26:37.320 And so he didn't want to leave me in that situation, so he got me out of it.

00:26:40.480 But I didn't see that as a kid.

00:26:42.760 He showed me love by providing a roof over my head, always food.

00:26:46.520 I never had to worry about the basic needs.

00:26:48.340 We weren't wealthy by any means.

00:26:49.940 We were probably definitely on a lower scale of middle class.

00:26:53.080 But I struggled with that a lot.

00:26:55.600 And then I didn't see my mom until the summertime.

00:26:57.120 And when I'd see her, she'd tell me how much she loved me and would, you know, if you understand the five love languages,

00:27:03.680 she was words of affirmation and physical touch.

00:27:06.240 She would hug me and, you know, all the stuff that I think little boys like.

00:27:12.500 And then I'd have a lot of resentment when I'd go back and live with my dad.

00:27:15.760 So I battled a lot of internal stuff.

00:27:17.620 Didn't add to it all the racial stuff.

00:27:19.520 Yeah.

00:27:19.700 You know, having to take my girlfriend at the time, having my white friend go pick her up for our semi-formal prom at her house just to get her to the prom so that I could be her date.

00:27:33.040 Wow.

00:27:33.580 Because they had no idea we were dating.

00:27:35.380 And they wouldn't have been cool with it.

00:27:36.620 No, absolutely not.

00:27:38.440 So that all led to a life of partying, drinking, smoking a lot of weed.

00:27:44.740 And then before I knew it, I knew the people that had it in quantity.

00:27:49.660 And then before I knew it, I had a pager that would go off 50 to 100 times a day from everybody wanting any from weed to acid to mushrooms.

00:27:57.240 How did you get out of it?

00:27:59.140 October 10th, 1993.

00:28:00.920 Good for you.

00:28:02.040 My girlfriend at the time, who's my bride now, her mom was out of town.

00:28:07.560 And I went over to her house to hang out and spend the night.

00:28:10.680 Her mom was a single parent. 0.99

00:28:13.000 Jennifer was her only daughter.

00:28:14.740 And she was super protective.

00:28:17.400 So she comes home in the middle of the night.

00:28:20.220 We're there.

00:28:21.660 And she didn't freak out.

00:28:24.740 We hear her come in, Jennifer.

00:28:26.460 And we're like, oh, my gosh.

00:28:27.640 Are you kidding me?

00:28:28.420 We're in a room.

00:28:29.420 We're clothed.

00:28:29.860 We're not doing anything yet.

00:28:32.760 You had intent.

00:28:34.040 There was definitely intent.

00:28:35.320 Yes.

00:28:36.420 And she opens the door.

00:28:38.600 And she says to my wife, she says, well, my girlfriend at the time, she says, Jennifer, what's going on?

00:28:43.700 And Jennifer said, we're just hanging out.

00:28:45.720 And her mom said, well, is he staying the night?

00:28:48.220 And we're thinking, what in the world?

00:28:50.740 And she said, yeah, he was going to.

00:28:54.160 And then she was trying to get her daughter, Jennifer, into church. 0.97

00:28:56.780 She was trying to keep her there.

00:28:57.560 So she says, well, you're at least going to go to church tomorrow.

00:29:00.140 And I'm thinking, oh, here's my chance to look like a goody two-shoes. 0.71

00:29:02.800 My grandpa's a pastor.

00:29:03.840 So I said, we can go to my grandpa's church.

00:29:06.560 Like, hint, hint, my grandpa's a pastor.

00:29:08.220 Don't kill me, right?

00:29:09.660 So she said, what time does it start?

00:29:11.120 I told her.

00:29:11.600 And she shut the door.

00:29:12.280 Let me stay.

00:29:13.560 The next morning.

00:29:15.660 The next morning, I woke up and knew it was a different day.

00:29:18.500 I used to wake and bake.

00:29:20.200 Wake up and get baked.

00:29:21.740 Start drinking.

00:29:22.560 A 40.

00:29:23.140 Old English back then, probably.

00:29:25.040 Hadn't drank anything, hadn't smoked anything yet.

00:29:27.640 I'm thinking, today's a really different day.

00:29:30.400 And then my grandpa's church service started at 2.

00:29:34.120 My Pedro hadn't gone off all day.

00:29:35.820 We get to the church service.

00:29:37.760 Full gospel, Kojic, Church of God in Christ. 0.97

00:29:40.380 Just get down.

00:29:41.220 Love it.

00:29:41.600 Yeah, just.

00:29:43.680 Uncomfortable for white people who have never been to it.

00:29:46.820 Should be fun, though.

00:29:48.000 Yeah, it should be fun.

00:29:48.780 Should be a lot of fun.

00:29:49.240 Yeah.

00:29:49.700 So the beginning of the service is worship.

00:29:52.020 The choir's going crazy, and then they would all of a sudden quiet down.

00:29:55.080 I hadn't been going to church.

00:29:56.140 I didn't.

00:29:56.740 I wasn't in church.

00:29:58.420 Raised in church early, but then left after my parents divorced.

00:30:01.880 The choir would quiet down, and somebody would stand up, and they'd testify what God was doing in their life.

00:30:06.980 And then the choir would go crazy, the church would go crazy, and the choir would keep going.

00:30:11.380 That kept happening, and people kept sharing what God was doing in their life.

00:30:14.280 And it was becoming evident to me that God was not only real, that he was actively working in people's lives, but I was missing out, and I was doing the devil's work.

00:30:24.460 So I had this amazing moment.

00:30:26.940 At that morning.

00:30:27.940 That morning.

00:30:28.900 All this is the same morning.

00:30:29.940 So I had this amazing thing happening inside of me, like, I need to just stand up and thank God I'm still here.

00:30:35.660 I had friends that had already gotten put in prison or jailed, juvie at that time.

00:30:40.980 I had done a lot of shady things, and I just felt the need to thank God.

00:30:45.040 In front of her mom.

00:30:46.720 Yeah.

00:30:47.140 Her mom was there.

00:30:47.920 Okay.

00:30:48.540 Yeah.

00:30:48.900 Go for it.

00:30:49.260 Jennifer's there.

00:30:50.780 But then at the same time, I'm like, I'm feeling this.

00:30:53.500 Who are you to stand up and say anything?

00:30:54.780 And so I just stood up, middle of church, I stand up, and I just said, I just thank God that I'm still here after 18 years.

00:31:02.720 And all I can tell you, Glenn, is that the power of God hit me and flooded my being.

00:31:06.260 I literally took off running around the church.

00:31:08.080 It was a small church, but I ran down the front, across the front, out the back.

00:31:12.000 You had to go back through the foyer.

00:31:13.160 I did that three times.

00:31:14.820 Felt like 1,000 tons of weights lifted off my shoulders.

00:31:17.560 Things visibly looked different to me.

00:31:19.180 And when I got back to my seat, all I wanted to know was about this love that God had just showed me.

00:31:24.780 I could leave everything else in my life behind, all the drugs, all the partying.

00:31:28.180 I could leave it all behind.

00:31:29.400 I just want to know about this God that loved me so much that in the middle of my sin-drenched life, he reached down and showed me he loved me.

00:31:38.940 And in that moment, I thought about, I said, what about Jennifer?

00:31:43.000 I really like this girl.

00:31:44.240 And I heard him say to me, it wasn't audible, but I heard it as loud as it could have been.

00:31:48.960 Don't worry about her.

00:31:49.900 Just keep loving on me.

00:31:51.740 So I did.

00:31:52.520 I just, you know, you see people with their hands raised as a sign of surrender.

00:31:55.740 I also like to say it's a sign of a little kid reaching up to their papa.

00:31:59.800 And when I turned and looked at her, Glenn, she had tears streaming down her cheeks.

00:32:04.640 She had her hands raised.

00:32:06.020 And God spoke to me and said, there's your bride.

00:32:08.540 Wow.

00:32:09.460 We got married April 17th, six months later.

00:32:12.620 And this April coming up next year will be, or next month will be 25 years.

00:32:17.160 Gosh, I love that story.

00:32:18.860 I love, I love that story.

00:32:21.340 Okay.

00:32:22.240 We now haven't, we've spent the time that we had allotted and we haven't talked to anything

00:32:26.500 about what we wanted to talk about.

00:32:28.240 Can you stay?

00:32:29.040 Absolutely.

00:32:29.540 Okay.

00:32:29.820 So we'll have you stay because you need to hear why I think this guy is, uh, is so heroic

00:32:35.140 and, uh, courageous.

00:32:36.860 Name of the book is Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

00:32:39.720 And, uh, we'll talk about that coming up in just a second with David Harris.

00:32:48.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:01.400 Bubba, are you there?

00:33:02.640 Glenn, it's Bubba.

00:33:03.600 Hey, how are you, man?

00:33:04.760 Been trying to get a hold of y'all morning, buddy.

00:33:06.360 I'm sorry.

00:33:07.020 I'm sorry.

00:33:07.680 How are you?

00:33:07.980 You got 36,000 affiliates and, you know, it's not Bora Bora, you know?

00:33:13.140 I know.

00:33:13.600 I know.

00:33:13.920 So tell me what, tell me what your take is on this, on this Tucker Carlson issue.

00:33:19.560 It's the snowflake and can't accept no, refuse to lose mentality that everybody has, you

00:33:28.100 know, where if the other side would just put a good candidate up and worry about, you know,

00:33:34.000 issues at hand and, and, and, and not trying to get people's lives ruined based on technicalities. 0.94

00:33:40.020 And I mean, I think it's just absolutely ridiculous. 0.85

00:33:43.060 And I think it's a, basically an assassination or an attempt to assassinate people that do 0.74

00:33:48.520 out of the box or different type of programming against the, the establishment.

00:33:52.800 I think it's trying to quell everybody.

00:33:54.760 Any, any doubt in your mind that, uh, uh, Tucker Carlson is not a racist, a misogynist,

00:34:06.560 or a homophobe?

00:34:07.980 Any doubt?

00:34:09.460 My show is not a credible show, Glenn.

00:34:12.680 We're not newsworthy at all.

00:34:14.320 We're a lot, we're, we're locker room talk.

00:34:17.900 We're, you know, we're those guys, those, you know, and, and Tucker, when he was, you

00:34:22.700 know, not on the Fox and he was just got let go of MSNBC and he just started the daily

00:34:27.900 caller.

00:34:28.400 That's this time period.

00:34:29.680 And it was an uncensored guy locker room talk show.

00:34:32.620 You know, we weren't trying to be, you know, Bubba news talk, you know, crossfire with

00:34:36.060 James Carville.

00:34:36.660 We were just the dudes and no, he's none of that.

00:34:40.280 Glenn, he's just a regular dude likes to go fly fishing and maybe smoke an occasional

00:34:44.180 Marlboro.

00:34:44.860 That's all he is.

00:34:46.020 A regular dude, period.

00:34:48.620 So what do you, what do you take from all of this?

00:34:53.300 Bubba?

00:34:54.420 I take, I take that they have went to the guttural bowels of, of radio me.

00:35:01.640 Like, you know, we're not credible.

00:35:03.140 Like, I mean, they've, they've gone and went and got the autistic kid that like, that has

00:35:08.100 Tourette's and, and took in a few of my, taken a few of my, of my tics.

00:35:12.960 Tucker and I are friends and we talk like dudes.

00:35:15.080 And I think that, I think that this is, and you know, Glenn, I didn't vote for, I'm not

00:35:20.720 either.

00:35:20.960 I voted for myself just so I could say I didn't vote for either one of them because I don't

00:35:25.500 like, you know, I don't, I don't, we don't do that sort of deal.

00:35:28.500 But I think this is the other side, the left, if you, as everybody calls it, playing their 0.99

00:35:33.480 stupid games because they're in trouble and they don't have a candidate. 1.00

00:35:37.200 And they, and so they got to play the Mueller game and the Roger Stone game and all that 1.00

00:35:40.960 kind of game.

00:35:41.720 And now why not talk, take out one of the bigger, more powerful talking heads on the

00:35:47.800 other side? 0.99

00:35:48.620 It's, it's chicken crap on the words on your show. 0.95

00:35:52.200 I know, I know, I know it would be different, but let's, yeah, we'll keep the guy talk to 0.97

00:35:58.200 some other time.

00:36:00.100 I got to tell you, I was, we were, we've been listening.

00:36:02.060 We were doing a Glenn Beckathon trying to get you live on the air and it was their first

00:36:07.120 time in radio because we would have been broadcasting 970 FLA over our station and we were doing a

00:36:12.240 Glenn Beckathon and we talked to a lovely call center woman in San Diego and we were doing

00:36:17.020 updates saying, you're listening to a Glenn Beckathon and we were trying to get Glenn Beck on the

00:36:21.300 air, buddy.

00:36:21.980 Well, we got a lot, we got a lot of mail.

00:36:24.040 We got a lot of mail.

00:36:25.040 I was going to say, I need to get Dom Theodore on the phone or Randy Michaels or Gabe

00:36:28.560 Hobbs or Roger Stone or Ryan Kilmeade or John Morgan or Bob Pittman.

00:36:34.020 I mean, I know, you know, I'm all Ryan secret.

00:36:36.480 Glenn, you're so well connected.

00:36:38.180 I need your help.

00:36:38.860 Glenn, what would you do if you were me, Glenn?

00:36:40.720 I would do exactly what you're doing. 0.99

00:36:42.620 And I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take any of this, this crap. 0.97

00:36:46.920 I mean, you are, you know who you are, you know what you do. 0.95

00:36:51.720 And the fact that you don't do any politics, a, I would continue to do that.

00:36:56.700 Um, I would like to hear from you on what your audience is saying, seeing that you don't,

00:37:02.320 that you talk to Democrats and Republicans, you're not a, you're, you're not choosing

00:37:07.580 sides.

00:37:08.540 No.

00:37:08.720 What are the people in your audience saying about this?

00:37:12.260 Well, not about this necessarily.

00:37:14.240 This is just a witch hunt.

00:37:15.620 This is, you know what this is? 1.00

00:37:16.620 This is pathetic. 0.99

00:37:17.660 Like I would hope that somebody could come up with a far better scandal than this. 1.00

00:37:21.760 This is ridiculous. 0.97

00:37:22.660 Trust me. 0.97

00:37:23.080 I'm the King of Scandals and this is child's place compared to what I usually get into.

00:37:27.400 I mean, Glenn, this is romper room stuff compared to what I usually do.

00:37:30.560 No, I know.

00:37:30.840 But the pulse of America, Glenn, to kind of give, I'm 52 years old, Glenn, you know that

00:37:34.600 I've been in radio or whatever.

00:37:36.320 You know, you and I used to go to the Zychex Lounge every once in a while, 4002 Gandy, my

00:37:39.960 man.

00:37:40.380 I mean, you know, I'm kind of a guy's guy.

00:37:44.160 Yeah.

00:37:44.460 And, you know, I think this is kind of the pulse of America.

00:37:46.700 Not necessarily about this particular issue, but just Trump and the Democrats and the

00:37:51.620 Republicans and all this is that I think most men think that Trump's doing a pretty good

00:37:57.840 job.

00:37:58.780 And this comes from a guy that's not very conformed, but he kind of needs to be at times

00:38:03.040 a little more presidential.

00:38:04.500 Just a tad.

00:38:05.540 I like what he stands for, but just a tad. 0.97

00:38:08.280 Like somebody needs to take that damn Twitter thing away from him and kind of chill out a little 0.98

00:38:12.360 bit, Donnie. 0.99

00:38:12.960 That's what I'm saying.

00:38:15.080 Have you got a good message?

00:38:16.260 I think that's a great message because I think that's what people, people who support

00:38:21.100 Donald Trump generally think that, you know what, look, he's got his own issues and he's

00:38:26.960 going to please stop.

00:38:28.080 Please stop tweeting.

00:38:29.980 A little bit.

00:38:30.560 Don't stop tweeting altogether.

00:38:32.280 Just back it down about 32%.

00:38:35.260 That's it.

00:38:36.300 Okay.

00:38:36.780 Have you talked to Tucker?

00:38:38.480 I did.

00:38:39.080 I talked to him just a little bit yesterday because he was in the middle of this and I

00:38:42.700 felt as if his monologue.

00:38:44.300 I almost cried afterwards because it was just like, not only did he stand his ground because

00:38:51.620 he didn't do anything wrong, but he stood, you know, as much as the Democratic talking

00:38:56.000 heads, Glenn, maybe want to get behind this, the CNNs and what have you.

00:39:00.420 At the end of the day, journalists need to take a long, hard look as to what Tucker's

00:39:04.780 saying because they're trying to take your freedom of speech and the way that you look

00:39:09.800 at things, right or left or indifferent, away.

00:39:12.700 They're trying to quell.

00:39:14.360 What the people don't realize is not the left is trying to quell everybody, not just the

00:39:19.340 Michael Savages and the Glenn Beck's and the Tucker Carlson's.

00:39:23.060 And they take a shot at the biggest guy and the biggest guy basically gave him the middle 0.73

00:39:27.580 finger.

00:39:28.140 And I thought his monologue was brilliant as a broadcaster and as a talent.

00:39:32.660 Bubba the Love Sponge.

00:39:33.560 Not that I'm either.

00:39:34.480 I'm barely either, Glenn.

00:39:36.440 Thank you so much.

00:39:38.360 Honest to God, Glenn, we have a lot of great friends and let's keep in touch.

00:39:41.800 I've always honestly admired your work.

00:39:44.480 Thank you.

00:39:44.840 If you have a 3X Christmas sweater, I'd like to have it.

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00:40:17.020 John Lott.

00:40:18.940 He is a doctor, Dr. John Lott.

00:40:23.060 He is an economist and a recognized expert on guns and crimes.

00:40:27.340 He has written some of the best books on guns.

00:40:30.520 He was instrumental in our book on control.

00:40:34.920 Welcome to the program, John Lott.

00:40:37.340 Great to talk to you again, Glenn.

00:40:39.200 Hey, John, I wanted to get you on about two things.

00:40:42.260 Washington state and what's happening there.

00:40:44.560 And also these red flag laws that the Republican Senate is actually suggesting.

00:40:52.500 And and what's his name?

00:40:56.600 Lindsey Graham has has said he's already talked to the president and the president's on board.

00:41:01.380 And I think this is a horrible law.

00:41:05.240 Can you can you explain exactly what the law is, if it's effective and whether you agree with me or not?

00:41:14.400 Right.

00:41:15.040 No, I definitely agree with you.

00:41:17.060 Look, it's kind of like the old Tom Cruise movie Minority Report, where they're trying to predict whether somebody is going to commit a crime in the future.

00:41:27.820 And, you know, if you talk to them, most of these laws are fairly vague.

00:41:35.360 They just say you have a complaint.

00:41:38.220 A judge will look at it.

00:41:39.800 There'll be no initial hearing that will be there.

00:41:42.340 And maybe the person's gun can be taken away for up to 21 days.

00:41:46.420 And then there'll be a hearing.

00:41:47.640 And there and there's no experts like they're used to have where they're being in mental health experts.

00:41:53.240 In fact, they're really trying to get much broader than mental health.

00:41:57.320 Most of these laws don't even mention the term mental health in them.

00:42:02.140 You talk to the people who enforce these things and you say, well, what do you look for?

00:42:06.920 And they'll say, well, we look for predictors for somebody committing a crime.

00:42:11.660 So do they have a criminal record?

00:42:13.640 And you'll say, well, you already have laws from that.

00:42:16.840 If you have a felony, you're banned for life from having a gun, even if it's a nonviolent felony.

00:42:22.640 Depending upon the state, like California, almost any misdemeanor can ban you from being able to go in and get a gun.

00:42:30.260 But what they don't want to have is they want to have it so you can be banned if you simply have an arrest but not a conviction,

00:42:40.020 or somebody files a complaint and there's not an arrest.

00:42:43.640 So there is, there is, the way I read this is if somebody said, let's say, John, you get a divorce and it's an ugly divorce and you have a lot of guns,

00:42:53.680 and your ex in the battle says to the police, you know, my husband, I think he's unstable and I think he's, you know, he's got a lot of guns and I'm worried that he might do something.

00:43:07.260 They have the right then to go in and take your guns without any kind of hearing on that.

00:43:13.960 Is that accurate?

00:43:14.340 Without even notifying you, you'll find somebody at your door at 5 o'clock in the morning.

00:43:19.220 Right.

00:43:19.580 This has happened in some places.

00:43:20.960 And the standard of evidence is very low in many of these cases.

00:43:28.160 You can have what they call reasonable cause, which is just a hunch.

00:43:32.840 If the judge just has a hunch based on, slightly more than a hunch based on the complaint that the ex-wife has filed or the wife involved in the divorce, that can be sufficient.

00:43:45.300 And even when they have a hearing after 21 days or so, depending upon the state, again, they don't bring in experts.

00:43:53.620 And it can simply be, you know, is there a 51 percent chance, you know, slightly more than a coin flip, that you could be a danger.

00:44:02.920 You could have your guns taken away on a long term basis.

00:44:06.000 What is the long term plan here?

00:44:07.700 What is this?

00:44:08.500 What is this?

00:44:09.780 Because they're assembling, you know, as you see, John, we haven't talked about this, but I'm sure you're you're on this far more than I am.

00:44:20.300 They're assembling by taking away a little right here and a little right there and then pressuring the financial system not to do business with gun manufacturers, et cetera, et cetera.

00:44:34.140 They're all they're doing is making it absolutely impossible on many levels.

00:44:41.740 And that way they can say we never touched the Second Amendment.

00:44:45.100 Right.

00:44:45.860 No, it's clear that they want to make it costly for people to have guns.

00:44:50.060 And they do it in many different ways, as you say.

00:44:52.960 In Washington, D.C., where they just voted in the House on these universal so-called universal background checks, which are background checks on any private transfers of a gun.

00:45:05.560 It costs one hundred and twenty five dollars to do a transfer on a gun per gun per gun.

00:45:11.220 If I if I give my son all of my guns and I give him ten guns, it's twelve hundred and fifty dollars because he has to pay for the transfer and the quote background check.

00:45:25.100 You're not checking the gun.

00:45:26.500 You're checking him.

00:45:28.000 Check him once.

00:45:28.660 They have exemption for right now in terms of immediate family members.

00:45:33.600 But if you gave it to me or if a grandfather gave it to his grandson or something like that, you're right.

00:45:39.840 I mean, and the ridiculousness of it is that you're having the background check on the individual.

00:45:45.940 It's not like there's a background check really on each gun to check the gun has a criminal record.

00:45:51.720 Right.

00:45:51.900 And and so, you know, it just it's obvious that they just went out of the way to make it cost.

00:45:59.040 I'll give you an example.

00:46:00.500 When other states have passed these laws, I get phone calls sometimes from some state legislators.

00:46:06.520 A few years ago, when Colorado passed this law, I got a call asked me what amendment I would put up on the bill.

00:46:12.560 My suggestion was to put up an amendment that would exempt people below the poverty level

00:46:17.560 from having to pay the new state tax on each gun that was transferred, with the exception of two pro-gun Democrats in the state house.

00:46:26.500 Every other Democrat voted against exempting people below the poverty level from having to pay the new state tax.

00:46:32.960 How many taxes can you think of that Democrats will fight tooth and nail against exempting somebody below the poverty level from having to pay?

00:46:41.780 And it just, you know, if my research convinces me of anything, it's poor minorities, particularly poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas 1.00

00:46:53.420 who benefit the most from having the option to be able to go and protect themselves.

00:46:57.460 These fees aren't going to stop you or I from being able to go and buy a gun.

00:47:01.100 But poor blacks who live in these high crime areas, it may be enough easily to stop them from owning a gun legally to protect themselves and their families.

00:47:11.980 So quickly, before I move on to the Washington state debacle, let me just leave the audience with this.

00:47:20.100 John has put together a white paper along with Carlisle Moody from College of William and Mary and the Crime Prevention Research Center.

00:47:29.280 This was their conclusion on red flag laws.

00:47:32.720 Now, remember, this is your Republican Senate that is doing this.

00:47:37.900 He writes the conclusion.

00:47:40.420 The red flag laws had no significant effect on murder, suicide, the number of people killed in mass public shootings, robbery, aggravated assault or burglary.

00:47:50.120 But there is some evidence that rape rates rise.

00:47:55.220 These laws apparently do not save lives.

00:47:59.600 All right.

00:48:00.380 Let me switch to Washington state.

00:48:02.840 Washington state said that if you can't sell a gun to anybody who is 20 unless they're 21 and they agree to all these other things,

00:48:12.820 the sheriffs say we're not imposing we're not enforcing this law.

00:48:18.640 We find that it is unconstitutional and we're not we're not going to do that.

00:48:23.820 And now the state is going after those sheriffs and going after FFLs, which is, you know, a private dealer that if they say they're not going to they're not going to abide by that either.

00:48:38.820 They're going to put them out of business and they're talking about jail time.

00:48:42.880 What is what is the story on this, John?

00:48:45.100 Right. Well, Washington state, Paul Allen and others have passed three initiatives in the last three elections.

00:48:53.440 And there's just a myriad of complicated laws now in Washington state for going owning a gun.

00:49:00.120 This last one had everything from 10 day waiting periods for buying a semi-automatic rifle to raising the age for somebody to be able to own a gun up to age 21 to creating a gun registry to,

00:49:17.100 as we were just talking about before, adding in fees and taxes, essentially, on top of the cost that they had already imposed for people be able to go in and own a gun.

00:49:27.520 It's just I mean, people have to understand how complicated the existing laws are even before they had this initiative.

00:49:36.980 You if you had a female friend who is being stalked or threatened and she calls you up late in the evening asking you to go and borrow a gun for a few days

00:49:46.960 until she can go to the store and buy one herself, you'd be creating committing a crime unless unless the attacker,

00:49:56.980 the stalker was physically there in front of you all when you loaned her the gun.

00:50:01.800 And as soon as he left, even if you knew he was going to be coming back later, she'd have to give you back the gun. 0.97

00:50:06.760 This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. 0.99

00:50:08.900 So do they have a leg to stand on when it comes to the sheriffs? 0.98

00:50:12.780 Can they can they take these sheriffs down?

00:50:16.680 Well, the thing is, the sheriffs are a creation of state law.

00:50:21.580 And so, you know, the federal government can't force individual sheriffs to do things.

00:50:27.400 But states can have a lot of leeway in terms of of, you know, what they can make sheriffs do.

00:50:35.760 And, you know, it's heroic in some sense for these sheriffs, despite the risks that they're facing personally themselves,

00:50:42.760 to be able to go and object to these rules.

00:50:47.440 I mean, they're elected officeholders, but, you know, it's still the state that sets up the rules by which they operate.

00:50:55.380 John, thank you so much. And we'll stay in touch.

00:50:58.940 Appreciate all the work that you do. God bless.

00:51:00.840 CrimeResearch.org. He is with CrimeResearch.org.

00:51:06.640 That's how you can follow him. His name is John Lott Jr.

00:51:10.300 If you've not read any of his books and you are interested in the Bill of Rights

00:51:15.980 and the reason why the people should have access to arms and, yes, even the scary black ones. 0.99

00:51:26.020 Boy, gun racism just doesn't stop with the left, does it? 0.56

00:51:29.420 You need to read his books. An easy one to get started is the book Control.

00:51:36.040 It has my name on it, but we had the best in gun researchers and the people who do this for a living 0.56

00:51:46.680 really support that book and fill that book.

00:51:50.620 We had about four or five different people on it, and they were the top of the line,

00:51:55.940 the people who are fighting for your right in the Second Amendment.

00:52:00.220 The name of the book is Control.

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