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00:01:38.080 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're

00:01:55.000 glad you're here. Kelly Shackelford is, uh, with us. He's the president and CEO and chief counsel,

00:01:59.460 uh, of First Liberty University, uh, which is something that is well worth your time and your

00:02:05.320 support. You can find them at first Liberty.org. Uh, but Kelly is, uh, here to talk to us. You

00:02:10.720 know, Wednesday night, I did a special, uh, Wednesday night special on why Biden's final

00:02:15.020 move is to destroy the Supreme court. It is so transparent. Um, and yet everything that they're

00:02:20.800 saying, they're protecting, uh, the, uh, Republic from is exactly what they're doing and why they're

00:02:29.980 changing the Supreme court or trying to Kelly, welcome to the program. Hey, thanks Glenn for

00:02:35.960 having me on. Yeah. You're frustrating. Is it right? By the way on that, uh, the transforming

00:02:42.760 the Supreme court into another partisan body would destroy the independence of judiciary and we would

00:02:48.900 all lose our civil liberties and that's what they want. I mean, that's why this is coming out at this

00:02:53.880 point. And it's, it, it, people I think are not paying enough attention to it because they just

00:02:58.500 think, Oh, this won't happen. This is the number one goal of their base. If you ask them if they

00:03:05.000 could get anything, uh, if they got back into office, what would it be? They would say to get

00:03:10.700 rid of this court. Cause that's the only thing that has been standing in their way. And that's why

00:03:15.320 this is being trotted out now. Cause people will say, well, you can't do this stuff. They're asking

00:03:19.440 you to do it. Take a constitutional amendment. Um, well, yeah, they're not going to do it between now

00:03:24.320 and the election, but this is the thing that excites their base. And guess what will happen

00:03:28.900 if they win? This is exactly what will happen. Then they'll have the power to do these things.

00:03:34.440 So Kelly, I talk to people all the time and they're like, yeah, but you know what? They're

00:03:39.140 just empowering Donald Trump. This court has just laid waste to any restrictions on the president.

00:03:44.460 When in my opinion, and I'd love to hear your analysis of this, that is the exact opposite of

00:03:50.120 what the Supreme court has been doing. They are trying to reduce the power of the president

00:03:54.700 true or false. Yeah. Well, look, they, that on that point, they're, they're all upset on the

00:04:01.180 presidential immunity decision. Um, I mean, really what they're trying to destroy the court because

00:04:06.860 they don't like just a couple of decisions that they're really upset about. Uh, like that's a great

00:04:11.640 reason to go back and change the constitution on areas that have not been changed since the beginning

00:04:16.820 of our country. Right. But take the immunity thing yet. Does, does the immunity decision give

00:04:22.140 some protections to the president? Yes, it does, but you have to have some protections. If not,

00:04:28.660 then let's get some DAs and conservative counties across the country to start bringing criminal charges

00:04:34.640 against Biden for negligent homicide for the 13 soldiers who died in Afghanistan because of negligence,

00:04:41.840 or let's go after buy, let's go after Obama for bombing innocent people, which would be negligent

00:04:48.180 homicide. I mean, you can see, you've got to have some, uh, immunity for the president in his official

00:04:54.900 duties. Um, or else you could, you know, you could criminalize everything, uh, but it can't be absolute

00:05:01.080 or then the president can do what they want. And that's exactly what the court laid out. They laid out,

00:05:06.160 but I think most scholars had always agreed. You can't start having local DAs bring criminal

00:05:11.700 charges. We've seen with Trump, the kind of crazy stuff that was going on in New York and it would

00:05:17.100 just, it, it would just lay waste to our country if we allowed that. So, I mean, what the court did

00:05:22.320 was, I think if it wasn't Donald Trump, I think, you know, you wouldn't have this sort of outrage,

00:05:27.280 but, um, but I tell you that just that alone, you know, that's one of the constitutional amendments.

00:05:33.080 They're going to change the constitution. Uh, and I'll tell you what's really scary though. And this is

00:05:37.980 what people don't pay attention to, uh, Glenn is what they can do with just a majority vote.

00:05:44.040 If, if Kamala were to win and they were to have the house and the Senate, which if she were to win,

00:05:49.280 they very well might have all three. All it takes is a majority vote to pack the court.

00:05:55.540 Add four justices, five justices, 10 justices, however many they want. Uh, this is exactly what

00:06:02.160 the base wants to take. Uh, Kamala was asked, um, are you open to court packing? She said,

00:06:09.080 absolutely open. Her director of communications for the last year has been a guy by the name of

00:06:14.040 Brian Fallon. Brian Fallon is the head of demand justice, the most radical pro court packing group

00:06:19.440 in the country. So this is where they're going. And this could happen as easy as a majority vote

00:06:25.260 if they get power of all three branches. And I think this is what they want because they,

00:06:29.480 the constitutional amendments are way too hard to get through. So they're going to be pushing

00:06:32.980 through court packing and then they can, people will think they have rights at that point.

00:06:37.000 They won't. Your rights will be gone because whatever right you think you have,

00:06:41.340 they can just add justices until they get enough to take that away.

00:06:46.460 This is the last thing. Yeah. This is the last thing a dictator does before he takes complete

00:06:53.420 control. Um, the, um, the, the other thing, so they were, they were mad about Donald

00:06:59.400 Trump and the immunity thing, but then they stretched it into, and just clear this up.

00:07:04.160 Um, they stretched it into, he could murder people. He could just, he could say to the,

00:07:09.000 and I love this example from Joy Reid because it's exactly what Biden did. He could just tell

00:07:14.280 the NSA, Hey, we think he's, uh, he's a spy. And so they would just come up with all kinds of stuff

00:07:22.940 to make him look guilty. And then when he went to another country, he could have him assassinated.

00:07:27.860 Okay. Yeah. Just ridiculous. Can they do that? Ridiculous. Why? Why is that ridiculous legally?

00:07:34.220 Because what, what the court said was that in, in, uh, the core constitutionally required duties

00:07:40.600 of the president, uh, that, that, you know, that they're protected. So, you know, if they send people

00:07:46.680 into war or if the type of things that are in the constitution, the idea that is there some sort of

00:07:51.740 official duty of the president to, to murder their opponents, uh, is ridiculous. Um, I mean,

00:07:57.900 and it just shows how, how silly they're going to be. Now, this is the first case. So there's going

00:08:02.040 to be more cases. We haven't had this before because we've never had parties trying to criminalize,

00:08:07.820 uh, politics and trying to make, you know, uh, bring criminal suits against people that are baseless

00:08:14.120 to try to attack people. And, and for political reasons, it is a new, you know, really low in our

00:08:20.960 country. When you criminalize politics, you're getting very dangerous as far as where your

00:08:25.080 country's going. And so, but I tell you, we've, we've got Glenn stuff on, I mean, a lot of people

00:08:30.440 don't understand kind of the history of this. They started on this. As soon as Biden came in office,

00:08:35.340 they had a commission to quote reform our Supreme court. And they have been pushing lots of money.

00:08:41.040 Just last week, the Washington post, uh, announced a 30, a new $30 million gift, uh, coming from one of

00:08:47.460 their donors that is going to try to get this over the line. And if people want info, um, I mean,

00:08:53.580 obviously they can always go to first liberty.org and they can get there, but there's also a special

00:08:57.460 site we set up just for the court packing and the attempts to really transform the Supreme court into

00:09:03.020 a political body. It's called Supreme coup.com. And it has all the data. It has memes you can send

00:09:09.480 out to kind of educate your friends. Just, this is something we've got to talk about, uh, or we need to

00:09:14.620 kill this. Like right now, 67 to 70% of the country doesn't want any of this stuff. If you ask them,

00:09:20.980 right. But most of the Democrats do because they, they don't like the court, uh, you know,

00:09:26.640 the Dobbs decision. They don't like the immunity decision and they're willing to destroy the court

00:09:31.080 over this. But if we educate people, even on the democratic side, and they understand what this

00:09:35.780 will do, the history of Venezuela and these other countries and how you lose your country, when you

00:09:39.620 do this, we can, we can move them. We moved them in the polling, uh, in the, in a couple of years in

00:09:45.140 the campaign, when they first tried to push this through, we have got to talk about this in the

00:09:49.720 elections. We've got to force the candidates to answer this question. This is to, um, this is our

00:09:54.880 treasure. This is our rule of law, our freedoms. Uh, and again, what they're pushing right now is

00:10:00.880 their number one core thing that they really want in the base. And this is why Biden's bringing it out

00:10:05.260 in the speech this week, the proposals, uh, Kamala saying she agrees is because they want their base

00:10:11.480 excited. And if they win, they're going to follow through on that. And again, it just takes a majority

00:10:17.700 vote to pack the court. And, uh, once you do that, you're done as a country. Oh, okay. So Kelly,

00:10:25.320 one last thing I said at the beginning that they are trying to, the Supreme court has been signaling

00:10:32.520 with their recent decisions that they are trying to cut back the, the power of the, the administration.

00:10:41.300 So, I mean, I, I, I always say to people, if you're afraid of the next president, you know,

00:10:49.480 the constitution is out of balance because the president should not have any power to come after

00:10:55.260 you or be an obstacle or, uh, you know, or an enemy in your own life. If you're afraid of Biden

00:11:04.180 or Trump, it's because the constitution is out of whack and they have been trying to cut back this,

00:11:10.700 this bureaucratic state. Um, and that's the other thing that bothers them so much because they can't

00:11:16.800 just rule by dictate. No, you're right. I mean, what you're saying is true. It's exact opposite of

00:11:23.980 what they're saying, right? If they, if they subjugate the court to a political body, in other

00:11:30.140 words, they can control, they can just put justices on, they can change all these things.

00:11:34.060 They can have quote ethics rules where they control the court through that. The only protection of the

00:11:38.940 people against, let's say a party has the executive branch and the legislative branch. The only protection

00:11:44.180 is the judiciary, but if it's gone, you're now, you're now into tyranny. And this is why in 1936 and 37,

00:11:52.440 when, when FDR tried this, and even though the Democrats had 80 of the Senate seats, I mean,

00:11:57.960 they had an overwhelming control. The country was averaging 1200 letters a day into the Senate

00:12:04.520 saying, this is tyranny. How dare you? And they could not only could they not get it through the

00:12:09.400 Senate sponsor in a Senate died of a heart attack. And in the next election, they lost massive numbers

00:12:16.000 of seats because America understood if you subjugate the judiciary underneath the legislature and

00:12:22.360 executive branch, you're in danger. You're in your, I mean, you, you've lost your Republic,

00:12:26.980 your constitutional Republic, and they're so bloodthirsty over these, these decisions they

00:12:32.420 don't like, but they're willing to do that. Uh, they want, the only thing they don't control is the

00:12:37.120 court. And it would do exactly the opposite of what they're saying. It would give the executive

00:12:41.000 massive power and the legislature to do what they wish. I think if we had an honest press that would

00:12:47.760 point out, I mean, I've, I've, I mean, they've been bold with their lives before they've been very,

00:12:52.280 very bold. Um, but to describe what they're fighting against and having it exactly what they're

00:13:00.400 fighting for is astonishing. And without a, a real free press that is protecting the people and

00:13:08.900 looking out for their interest instead of a party's interest, I'm not sure you'd get those

00:13:13.260 letters, uh, to Congress. So those emails to Congress now, uh, because we're uneducated on our

00:13:20.000 own system of government and half the country just swallows these unbelievable lies.

00:13:28.900 Yes, I'm, I, it was unbelievable. I mean, I'll tell you an example of that. You're, you're right.

00:13:32.980 Uh, I was on C-SPAN yesterday to talk about this and the calls coming in were just unbelievable.

00:13:40.020 One of the callers called in and said, well, the reason we should get rid of the Supreme court

00:13:45.080 is because they allowed Trump to stay on the ballot. And I said, I said, the last time we took

00:13:52.080 somebody off the ballot in this country was Abraham Lincoln taken off of 11 ballots right before the

00:13:57.580 civil war. I said, you're complaining of a decision by our current Supreme court. That was nine zero.

00:14:04.180 And yet that is the justification for us to get rid of the United States Supreme court and our

00:14:09.620 constitutional freedoms in the process. People, people are not talking about this. They, they look

00:14:14.540 at this as like a political move by Biden between now and the election. But the reason it is their main

00:14:20.700 political move is because if they win, this is what their base wants. And we've got to educate

00:14:26.180 people. We've got to force people out. Kamala needs to be asked, you know, and Trump, and he'll answer

00:14:31.260 it, I think the right way, but Kamala needs to be asked, are you in favor in court packing?

00:14:35.040 She can't answer that question because if she does, she'll, she'll scare the country. If she says yes.

00:14:40.660 And if she says no, the base will be furious because that's what they're planning to do.

00:14:46.140 Kelly Shackelford, uh, president, CEO, chief counsel of First Liberty Institute. These guys have been

00:14:53.500 on the front line. A lot of the good changes that have come, uh, in the last few years,

00:14:59.240 I believe First Liberty has led the way. First Liberty.org. What is it? Is it court coup? Did you

00:15:05.300 say? Uh, Supreme coup.com Supreme coup, Supreme coup. Yep. Uh, thank you so much. Not all of us are

00:15:13.020 French. May I just say, may I just say you should, uh, spell it C O O as well. Just, you know, just

00:15:22.220 for, just for the people who don't know, you know, uh, all right. Thank you so much, Kelly. Appreciate

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00:16:49.180 Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:54.060 All right. So let's get, get into some sound here that we just want to, we just want to cover here

00:17:04.680 just a little bit. Let's start with Corrine Jean-Pierre, uh, about the plea deal on 9-11 that

00:17:11.820 everybody is so happy about. Let's let those people not get the death penalty. What did they do? They

00:17:18.380 only killed 3000 people. Here's Corrine Jean-Pierre. Does he have a message to some of the 9-11 families

00:17:25.340 who wanted to see a full trial, who wanted to see this kind of come to a fuller process? Um, so look,

00:17:31.740 this is basically, um, what Jake said. This is something that we had no involvement in. He didn't

00:17:37.480 have any involvement in. Uh, and so the, the white house played no role in this process. Uh, and the

00:17:44.880 president directed his, his, uh, team to consult as appropriate with officials and lawyers and

00:17:49.700 department of defense, obviously. Uh, and, uh, you know, we have said this before, um, you know,

00:17:56.960 we, we are, you know, our hearts go out to the families, uh, who lost the loved ones, uh, on that,

00:18:05.380 on that day. Uh, and, you know, the president of 9-11 has honored them every year and the families,

00:18:11.000 uh, who, again, who lost their loved one on that terrible day. Okay. All right. Well, I feel like,

00:18:19.300 I feel like they've got things under control there at the white house. Now, uh, Joe Biden is, um,

00:18:25.580 is, uh, there on the tarmac waiting for the American citizens imprisoned in Russia. Uh, and, uh,

00:18:32.940 and Biden is there and he's, he spots a cute little girl. Oh God. Cut to you all know we have a

00:18:40.240 tradition in the Biden family. We're saying happy birthday. I don't have any birthday. Ready?

00:18:45.040 All of you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday dear Miriam. Happy birthday to you.

00:18:58.020 Remember, no serious guys. Dating advice. Yeah, that's right. She's all Sue's daughter. I love you.

00:19:06.080 Oh, isn't that great. Uh, hugging her, giving her a little kiss, keeping her close. You know what I

00:19:11.880 mean? Hey, don't, uh, no serious dating until you're 30. I'm not interested after 30. Um, so we,

00:19:19.380 we had that going on now, um, in this, uh, this hostage release, what was really nice was, uh,

00:19:25.440 Joe Biden said, you know, Donald Trump could, couldn't have gotten this deal done. He wouldn't,

00:19:29.860 he wouldn't have done this. You know, uh, I got Putin on the horn and we made a deal. Well,

00:19:34.800 let's talk about that here for a second. There's a couple of things that are wrong with that. Uh,

00:19:39.560 first of all, um, why do you think Putin got on the phone with you right at election time?

00:19:46.420 Do you think he's for Donald Trump or is he for you being president? So he's making a deal,

00:19:54.180 which makes you look good. What does that tell you? Does it, does that tell you that Putin is

00:20:00.720 afraid of you? No, he's doing PR for you. He wants the Biden administration, not the Trump

00:20:07.660 administration. Hello, ding dong. Also, you did make a deal and it was lousy for us. Why is it

00:20:15.700 they got more than we got? Well, why? Cause you're desperate. You're desperate. That's why. And he

00:20:22.820 knows that. And he wants to play into the political narrative here in America. Oh, okay. So now when,

00:20:32.000 um, when, uh, he's on the tarmac, Kamala has her first unscripted moment in the last couple of weeks.

00:20:40.780 They, uh, they, they, they're talking to her and Biden and he's just standing there like,

00:20:46.020 I have no idea what she's saying. And, uh, they say, you know, what, what, what, any comments on

00:20:51.360 on what's about to happen? And here's what Kamala says. 21, please.

00:20:55.040 This is just an extraordinary testament to the importance of having a president who understands

00:21:02.640 the power of diplomacy and understands the strength that rests in understanding the significance

00:21:11.200 of diplomacy and strengthening alliances. This is an incredible day.

00:21:16.020 What did she just say? It's one of her circular. Oh my God. By the way, Glenn, that is, I believe

00:21:25.340 officially the first question she's been asked. I may have missed something. I know RuPaul asked

00:21:33.140 her a couple of questions, so I'm not counting those, but I'm saying from a reporter and I believe

00:21:37.620 it was, how do you feel about this amazing thing that happened? Um, but she, that's, I believe the

00:21:44.220 first question she's been asked and it was the easiest question imaginable, uh, basically

00:21:50.980 blows it, compliment yourself. And she's still, she's still blew it. We got to get her. You just

00:21:57.940 got to get her on, on, you got to get her in front of these cameras. It just, as soon as people see

00:22:02.340 this, you know, this, this little boomlet goes away. I, I tell you, I have a, uh, I have a real

00:22:08.360 problem with you, Stu, cause you're so racist. She's still reeling from president Trump, uh, you

00:22:13.760 know, saying I thought she was an Indian and everybody, everybody in the press and they know

00:22:18.160 what they're doing there. They are, they are taking and twisting his words. He's not saying

00:22:23.320 she wasn't black. He was making a comment of wait, but she never called herself black until this point

00:22:30.560 in the election. And then when she needed the black vote, she said, Oh, I'm black. Here she is.

00:22:36.120 Kamala Harris, 2019 cut 22. Okay. It's an Indian recipe. Yes. Because you are Indian. Yes. Okay. And

00:22:45.440 I don't know that everybody knows that, but I find that wherever I go and I see Indian people,

00:22:49.700 the supermarket on the street, everyone's like, you know, Kamala Harris is Indian, right? It's like our

00:22:53.640 thing we're so excited about to have you running for president. Yeah. So we're both Indian,

00:23:00.040 but actually we're both South Indian. Yes. You look like, wait, hold on. Can we, we need to stop

00:23:05.720 and address one thing here. What Mindy Kaling just said has never occurred. Never ever one time in

00:23:14.960 her life. Did this incredibly famous person who was on one of the most beloved sitcoms of all time,

00:23:20.200 have someone walk up to her and say, did you know Kamala Harris was Indian? That story never,

00:23:27.000 ever, ever, ever occurred. That is complete nonsense. I just want to at least get that on

00:23:35.300 the record. Okay. Uh, next here's Kamala Harris in 2020. She's not black. She's Indian. Listen

00:23:43.100 today on August 15th, 2020, I stand before you as the first candidate for vice president of the United

00:23:52.040 States of South Asian descent. Okay. Now nobody's, nobody is not, nobody is saying she's not black.

00:24:01.340 Okay. Yes. She's black. She's Indian. She's half black. She's half Indian. We know, we know how science

00:24:08.780 works. You're the ones confused about what's a woman. Uh, so we got it. Her dad was black. Her mom was,

00:24:18.520 uh, Indian, even Don Lemon. When she started saying that she was black, he was starting to

00:24:25.640 be offended. Cause he's like, uh, you know, she's calling herself African-American. Listen,

00:24:30.180 this is Don Lemon. Black woman. Okay. That's why I agree with that. I agree with that. But is she

00:24:36.680 African-American? No, no, no, no, no, no. But is she African-American? There's a difference.

00:24:41.040 There's nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to take anything away from her. I think you're

00:24:45.860 falling. I think you're falling into a trap of that. All she had to do was say, I am black.

00:24:49.700 Remember how much trouble he got in for that? She's not African-American. No, she's not. She's

00:24:54.940 Jamaican Indian. And there's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Except she uses it

00:25:02.600 to play on constituents. That's the only thing Donald Trump was saying. He's not questioning who she is.

00:25:10.480 We all know who she is now, but she said she was Indian when she was needing the Indian vote. And then

00:25:18.200 she's black when she needs the black vote. She's both. Yeah. And the way, please, it's so bad. The

00:25:25.300 way he actually said it was, and you know, she turned black a couple of years ago. And like, they are so

00:25:32.740 dishonest that they're acting as if they think he thought she just turned black, like a literal

00:25:40.020 statement. Now they know exactly what they're doing, but it's amazing as well. This is coming

00:25:44.760 from the same people who say you can change races based on just saying it, right? Like they should

00:25:52.060 be, this is like the Rachel Dolezal thing. If it was literal, they would be supporting it.

00:25:57.280 Right. If she just was Indian her whole life and just said she was black, they would then say she's

00:26:03.100 now black. But because Donald Trump made the point in a critical way, all of a sudden that's not

00:26:08.760 possible. It's a racist to even suggest. I know. I know. So I would like to suggest that she's not

00:26:14.120 only Jamaican Indian black, uh, but she's also Southern because, uh, you know, she was raised in

00:26:23.980 Berkeley. Uh, that's Southern California, isn't it? Which explains her speech this week

00:26:29.840 with a Southern accent. 26. And you all helped us win in 2020 and we're going to do it again in 2024.

00:26:41.820 That is, that is Southern California. I mean, she is, she's all over it, all over it. You know,

00:26:51.240 I don't know if you heard Michael Malice, uh, this week, but I love Michael Malice. Uh, and what

00:26:58.720 he said on Joe, Joe Rogan this week about Kamala Harris. Listen, if you're going after officer

00:27:02.800 Harris, you're either racist or sexist or ableist, right? So they will use the list. Yeah. Cause

00:27:07.160 she's a retard. She's literally retarded. I mean, Ukraine is a country in Europe and Russia

00:27:15.900 is another country and a powerful country and Russia invaded Ukraine. And that's what's really

00:27:22.140 important is what can be unburdened by what has been. I think of her as America's wine mom

00:27:26.700 seems like she's three deep by noon and she's got the three phases of wine mom. She's got happy drunk.

00:27:33.820 Oh my God, this cereal's got a rabbit on it. It's so great. Cackling, cackling, cackling. Then there

00:27:40.140 is, um, trying to drunk at work where you're trying to make sense, but you don't space is

00:27:45.320 around us all and unites us all and inspires us all. And then there's, I'm being stern. So you

00:27:51.700 don't realize how plastered I am. And I'm making a point. Dr. Little girl was me. Now I'm going to

00:27:56.820 go upstairs and don't knock on the door cause I'm going to pass out. So those are her three ways

00:28:00.880 talks. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is

00:28:10.900 a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called

00:28:16.740 Ukraine. So basically that's wrong. Can I tell you something though? When I listen to that, I just think

00:28:24.600 this is so vapid, but then I think how many Americans need it broken down that way? Certainly

00:28:32.840 her voters do. Yeah. It was a, it's a bigger country. And so then that's wrong. Oh, okay. Thank you.

00:28:44.040 Mamala. I appreciate that. Now I understand big things. Big countries shouldn't go into little

00:28:49.540 countries. Can little countries go into big countries? Would that be wrong? I mean, it is,

00:28:55.500 it's just, it's amazing. Do we know Glenn, how many various ceilings she would be busting through

00:29:02.480 with this? Cause we know we'd have the first black woman. We would have the first woman. We would have

00:29:08.820 the first Indian. We would have the first South Asian. We would also have the first Asian. And this

00:29:19.920 one in particular is bothersome because at some point, like, I don't know, maybe it's 20, somewhere

00:29:25.260 in the 20 years from now, some great grandson or granddaughter of a person, a Japanese American

00:29:33.960 who was put into internment camps by the president that every Democrat thinks is the best president of

00:29:39.620 all time is going to rise to power and maybe be elected president. And they're going to be like,

00:29:45.020 actually, you're the second Asian president. Sorry. Kamala won back in 2024, God forbid. And

00:29:54.380 you, sorry, you don't count. You didn't break any ceilings. You're a giant zilch. You get no

00:29:59.760 recognition. Sorry about that. Good night. I mean, that's sad. It's a, did you hear the,

00:30:07.320 the flashback of Gerald Ford from 1978 or 79, where he was asked, he was running against Ronald

00:30:18.080 Reagan at the time and they're in the primaries and he's asked by this little girl, you know,

00:30:23.800 I'm eight years old and I want to see someday a female president. What is it going to take?

00:30:28.720 What advice would you give an eight-year-old girl for who wants to be president? Okay. So he says,

00:30:36.240 well, I'll tell you, we'll have a female president. It is inevitable in the future,

00:30:41.940 but let me tell you how it's going to come. This is 1978 or 79. Let me tell you how it's going to

00:30:48.920 come. Either the Democrats or the Republicans are eventually going to nominate a woman to be the

00:30:55.560 vice president. And the vice president, uh, will be serving in that administration until the president

00:31:04.300 dies or bows out. And that's how she'll become president. That will be your first, uh, president.

00:31:11.620 Really? I have not heard that. That's an incredible, crazy, bizarre moment. I mean,

00:31:16.800 why would he, I mean, was he just so convinced Americans hated women or was he convinced they

00:31:22.800 were sexist or what was the reasoning for that? I don't know. I would imagine that it would,

00:31:29.020 he didn't think that kind of change could be made. Really? Like I mean, again, and this is the 70s,

00:31:34.960 so it's a different era. Uh, I, you know, I, I understand, but I don't know. Run by white men,

00:31:40.800 keeping women down. That's a, that's a fact. Yeah. It's, it's, it's fascinating. You're listening

00:31:48.940 to the best of the Glenn Beck program. I have a friend that was over the house last night and,

00:31:57.440 uh, he, since I last saw him, he had died, uh, clinically dead, um, on the table and came back

00:32:06.400 and he said, Glenn, that your life flashes before your eyes is absolutely true. And he said,

00:32:14.060 it was the weirdest experience. He said, I've changed so much from them, from then, because I

00:32:18.940 realized I wasn't doing all that I could do. I, I, I had dropped the ball in so many places.

00:32:25.900 We are now, I would like your political life to flash in front of your eyes here because 45 days

00:32:32.760 from now, Pennsylvanians begin to vote. And we go from a theory of, yeah, it would be great. And yeah,

00:32:41.060 I'm fighting for to the reality of here's what people did. Um, and Steve Dace is here. He's,

00:32:49.560 I know Steve, you have been on the Trump bandwagon now that the, uh, the, um, uh, you know,

00:32:57.360 primaries are over. You've gotten what every Republican, you know, has always been told to do.

00:33:03.600 And that is get on the train and you're on the train now, uh, and supporting Donald Trump. And

00:33:09.740 you're concerned about what you're seeing. I saw your tweet this morning, um, that you think that

00:33:15.860 we might, we should be asking ourselves some honest questions about our messaging. Explain.

00:33:21.480 I think, and I think this is actually a campaign thing. Like, I, I don't want to change any of

00:33:26.500 this disruption and the disruptive, uh, traits that Trump brings to the table. Um, uh, he's been

00:33:32.820 accused of, for instance, the, the, with the journalists this week. Oh, that was masterful.

00:33:36.580 Uh, that was masterful. And you could just see in the audience, the crowd was, the crowd was

00:33:41.540 turning in his favor almost from the jump when he pushed back on her. What you need a campaign to do

00:33:47.000 though. And, and in some respects, Glenn, this is kind of the opposite of what I thought

00:33:51.340 when I was with, when I was with the DeSantis campaign in the primary in that you have a very

00:33:55.520 disciplined candidate. Okay. And so the campaign needs to be the hype man, right? Ron DeSantis

00:34:00.860 is not a guy that sits in an auditorium of 10,000 people and commands that presence. He's a ruthless,

00:34:05.400 um, administrator that gets stuff done. And so the campaign now needs to provide the stage presence.

00:34:11.660 He's, he's, he's more than a man. He's more machine than man. Like they just never, and then that

00:34:16.160 never happened. Okay. In this case, the, the candidate is his own hype man. And when

00:34:21.240 it needs to happen when he walks out of there and, and, and, and goes after Kamala Harris

00:34:25.780 to the, and questions her credibility to the point of questioning her own, uh, genealogy

00:34:30.140 and, and, and family origin. Okay. The campaign needs to come out and say, and the same woman

00:34:35.520 that you can't trust to tell you whether she's Indian, whether she's African American, whether

00:34:39.940 she's this or that, um, is the same woman that never went to the border as a border czar is

00:34:44.920 the same woman. And who's, was, was, was with the white house that lied to the American people

00:34:48.600 and gas lit them for the last three years that the president's senile and has dementia.

00:34:52.260 The campaign needs to come in, you know, a campaign and a candidate are like a marriage

00:34:56.580 and the literal Hebrew translation there for helpmate, by the way, of a wife, the word actually

00:35:01.640 literally translates, I believe to rescuer, that a woman literally rescues a man from his

00:35:06.200 shortcomings and deficiencies. She fills in those gaps. Okay. And that's what a campaign

00:35:10.840 is supposed to do to a candidate. And what I see is the, is the, I, I even understand why

00:35:16.400 they're mad at heritage foundation, getting out ahead of them. I, I get that being on

00:35:20.080 campaigns. You can't get ahead of the candidate. I get that, but you also can't spend more,

00:35:24.100 more time attacking the heritage foundation and project 2025. Then you can talking about

00:35:29.540 the fact that you took a bullet to the face for the American people and the campaign has

00:35:33.760 and, and Glenn, would you have imagined three weeks ago that we would have a conversation

00:35:38.080 and think, I can't believe the campaign has not used that to inspire voters more than

00:35:42.600 they have. They barely bring it up. They barely talk about it. And, and I just think we're

00:35:46.540 off message and I'm worried. I'm worried because they are going to start voting in

00:35:50.420 Pennsylvania in 45 days. And, and I think if we make it an issue-based campaign, if we

00:35:56.000 pivot to, this is what Trump did so well in 2016, that's why I want him to go back and

00:36:00.100 do it again. He didn't just say Mexico's bringing us, it's, it's rapist, druggies and drug mules

00:36:05.260 and human traffickers, and then just leave it there. He then said that. And then, and

00:36:08.600 that's why we're going to build a wall and we're going to secure the border so they

00:36:11.100 can stop doing this to you. You see what I'm saying? He pivoted to issues that hit

00:36:14.900 home for the average American. The average American needs to feel why Kamala Harris is

00:36:19.620 incompetent. They need to feel why she's a complete contrivance and not even a real

00:36:24.140 person and not credible and a deep episode come to life. We can't just leave it there.

00:36:28.540 We have to say, that's why this, that's why she was silent and complicit in the gaslighting

00:36:33.560 of the president's mental state. That's why she never visited the border. That's why she

00:36:37.560 was part of the collapsing economy we currently have. They need to pivot to those issues. And

00:36:42.420 that's what a campaign needs to do. And I just don't see that. And I am very concerned.

00:36:48.280 So I would agree with, I think Donald Trump is doing a magnificent job himself. I think

00:36:53.480 it is a campaign problem. Um, because I, I, I do tend to agree with you that, um, you know,

00:37:01.140 the, the, the, the Harris campaign has pivoted 180 degrees. Uh, they're no longer talking about him

00:37:08.500 being a criminal or anything else. Um, and, uh, and that is, we can't play the same game because

00:37:16.520 it's a different player. Um, and if you put, I mean, she is the Biden administration. She was there

00:37:23.060 the whole time. She was with all of it. And if it is a, uh, a Trump as a personality against a

00:37:30.940 Kamala, I don't know who wins because both sides will split on that. But if you're talking about,

00:37:36.200 Hey, how's your grocery bill? Correct. How's your gas? Correct. What do you think's going to happen

00:37:41.240 when Kamala gets in? Do you think gas is going to go down or up? Do you think inflation with her

00:37:48.480 spending, her wanting to create jobs that are all government jobs guaranteed by you, the taxpayer?

00:37:56.640 Do you think your, uh, your prices of goods and services inflation is going to go down or up?

00:38:04.980 Those are the things, how many, I can't believe that we are, you know, they, they, they actually

00:38:09.760 came out yesterday and said, uh, Donald Trump said that he could have, uh, he, he, this deal

00:38:15.340 wouldn't have been necessary. He would go to gotten the, the, um, uh, you know, the hostages out.

00:38:20.660 Well, I probably, uh, probably so, uh, we wouldn't be in the situation we were in if it wasn't for

00:38:25.540 Donald Trump. However, can somebody just ask, why do you think Putin would make Joe Biden look like

00:38:34.640 a peacemaker right now? You know, who do you, who do you think Putin wants in the Oval Office?

00:38:42.260 It ain't Donald Trump. Who does China want? It's not Donald Trump. Who does Iran want? It's not

00:38:48.680 Donald Trump. Of course they're going to come out and do deals now.

00:38:52.440 I thought the single best messaging clip he's produced in his candidacy this round was the

00:38:59.060 interview that he did with Lori Ingram a few days ago. And she asked him about trainees. Okay. And

00:39:04.680 he's like, he, and he was like, that stuff's completely ridiculous. We're not permitting that

00:39:08.820 stuff. Uh, if I'm president, but then he pivoted to this and he, and I love the fact that he kept

00:39:13.460 using the word we, okay. What we want is grocery bills to be affordable. What we want is for the

00:39:19.580 border to be secure. What we want is for common sense to return. What we want, nobody even taught,

00:39:24.000 he said, nobody even talks about the American dream anymore. We want to, we want to be talking

00:39:27.720 about that again. And I saw that and I thought that especially the use of the word we, because

00:39:32.540 that, because the Democrats want to make it look like he isn't part of a movement. He's a singular

00:39:37.400 entity, a singular force. Uh, he's dangerous, reckless, et cetera. He is actually at his best when

00:39:43.660 he is seen as a movement. When he says stuff like, you know, they're coming after me because

00:39:48.240 I represent you. I mean, that's when he's at his best. And I think what I, what I see is that

00:39:54.620 they're off message. I'll even give you another subtlety. Calling her a flip-flopper lets her off

00:39:59.680 the hook. You're not running against John Kerry in 2004 where he's not president. And so questioning

00:40:05.240 his credibility on the issues because he's not a known quantity is a good tactic. And remember they

00:40:10.440 busted out the flip-flops and, and that was devastating against John Kerry. She has effectively

00:40:15.540 been some form of president the last few years, or at least in on those conversations. I would not

00:40:20.940 grant her because she could just turn around and say, well, you know, I'm not Joe Biden. And I looked

00:40:24.820 at the data and I did this differently. And I think we should maybe do some things differently on the

00:40:28.320 border than we did the last couple of years. Uh, you don't let her, don't grant her that you need to

00:40:32.400 just don't, don't call her a flip-flopper. She's a radical. She needs to own every, every dot and

00:40:37.780 tittle, every syllable of morsel of record of this white house. She has to own it. Attacking

00:40:43.380 her as a, as a flip-flopper grants the premise that she somewhat undefined and therefore allows

00:40:49.020 them to redefine her, which is what you're seeing them try to do right now. Do not accept that

00:40:53.020 premise on any level. Make her own the record of this administration. You should run on her on the

00:40:57.900 issues as you would have run against Joe Biden, because she is essentially the stand-in for him,

00:41:02.960 if not literally. So we're, uh, sitting here looking at an awful lot in some ways, uh, like the

00:41:11.600 Wilson campaign in 1912 against, uh, Roosevelt. Roosevelt was honest about his progressivism and

00:41:21.680 he said, I'm going to do this, this, and this. And that scared the American people because they

00:41:26.280 thought he went too far. Um, and, uh, Wilson did the exact opposite. He said, Oh, he's a radical.

00:41:33.380 He's right. Well, Wilson was the real radical, right? Right. And I think I, you know, Joe Biden

00:41:40.360 was a puppet. He was, uh, you know, weekends at Bernie's. Um, and he wasn't checked in enough,

00:41:47.920 you know, Barack Obama was wanting, running the white house. Um, Kamala Harris believes this stuff.

00:41:54.600 Mm-hmm. Joe Biden doesn't believe this stuff. She does. Uh, and she's much more radical than he

00:42:02.140 was, was ever. And if people don't understand that, you know, you have to support the president,

00:42:11.540 but when she said I was the last person in the room with him for Afghanistan and I 100%, I'd never say

00:42:19.260 that. If I was against the president, I'd say, look, the decision was made by the president.

00:42:24.280 Uh, and I support the president going forward. We, we disagreed on a few things, but that's

00:42:30.460 neither here nor there. I support the president of the United States. You don't go on a big disaster

00:42:35.580 like that and say, I was the last person in the room to talk to him. And I agree. It was great.

00:42:40.880 Uh, no, no. Uh, and, uh, you know, I was telling Stu today that, uh, Ford gave a speech in 1978 or 79

00:42:52.180 when he was running against Reagan in the primary. And he said, um, uh, he was asked by a little girl,

00:42:57.900 how are you going to get a woman in the presidency? When will that happen? Will it ever happen? He said,

00:43:03.000 yeah, it's going to happen. I'll tell you how he said, uh, uh, a, either a Democrat or Republican

00:43:08.400 is going to pick a running mate. That's a female. She's going to be the vice president and the

00:43:12.040 president will die. And that's how you'll have your first female president. Wow. This is, I know

00:43:17.680 this is, this is how we're going to elect because she could never think about, let me just write

00:43:22.940 fiction here for you. Think about how, uh, radical she is and how she performed in the primaries.

00:43:30.940 Nobody liked her. Correct. Okay. Nobody wanted her. Nobody liked her. We saw her more than anybody

00:43:35.580 did. She couldn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses. All right. Right. And so to me, to me,

00:43:40.440 disaster. There's a reason why, and I think he, him and his campaign need to say this.

00:43:45.840 There's a reason why the same forces that pushed Joe Biden out of the campaign are not pushing him out

00:43:51.340 of the white house because it would actually strengthen her candidacy. If she was a credible

00:43:55.480 candidate, it would strengthen her candidacy to be seen as president first to get basically a 90

00:44:00.700 day test drive with the American people where they get comfortable with this. They know, therefore

00:44:05.840 they're not doing that because they know if they see that ahead of time, that they won't vote for

00:44:10.340 that. They know that they know that she's a veep episode come to life. And so they, they've got to

00:44:14.140 do what the, the, the, the Kamala lot, uh, campaign that you're seeing now, the Trump campaign

00:44:19.080 needs to make her president right now. There's a reason why Democrats don't want her to be

00:44:23.700 president right now. They don't want to give the American people a trailer to the movie that

00:44:27.460 they're asking them to buy a ticket to. And the Trump campaign needs to provide that movie trailer

00:44:31.760 and shove it down the American people's throats. And it's got to be though about issues people care

00:44:36.860 about. I love deconstructing her personality because they're trying to construct and reconstruct

00:44:41.300 one as we speak, but it's got to be to get to the result of making me care about why I care

00:44:46.360 about that. They're doing this and they're doing this so that they can get her in the white house

00:44:49.740 against, against me knowing who she really is. So they can more California, California, the country,

00:44:54.460 they can more radicalize the country. And the Trump campaign needs to make her seem like she's

00:44:58.940 president of the United States to the American people right now. Steve Dace. Thank you so much.

00:45:04.820 I appreciate it. Steve Dace. You'll hear the Steve Dace program right after this, uh, on the

00:45:09.220 blaze radio network, uh, or wherever you get your podcasts, look for Steve Dace.

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