Glenn and Stu talk about the National Guard being called in to Wisconsin, the Rittenhouse Effect, and how the Democratic National Convention is going to be a disaster without them. Also, we have a new addition to the schools segment.
00:03:01.900But I would note that unlike, say, the Portland story that we've all been following for three months, and, of course, I've been in the middle of it, here we have a governor who at least is willing to use his National Guard for one of the things they exist for.
00:03:19.640He didn't bring enough numbers initially, but he kept moving the numbers up to get to a point where they're adequate.
00:03:27.500And he and the president spoke, of course, and the president has spoken vehemently about his desire for peace in all these communities and the willingness to move people in.
00:03:38.860And this is the peace through strength plan in the civilian environment, Glenn.
00:03:43.680It's, you know, you bring enough law enforcement responsibly executed, and there is no violence.
00:03:50.100We saw that happen in Minneapolis after the tragic killing of George Floyd.
00:03:54.760The first reaction in Minneapolis was, give them room to riot, the old Baltimore concept.
00:04:02.000And so then they brought in the Guard, and lo and behold, things were calmed down because those who contemplated violence knew there were consequences.
00:04:10.580And we're seeing that shift take place in Wisconsin.
00:04:16.680But you'll see the Department of Justice is moving over 200 marshals, FBI agents, ATF agents into Kenosha.
00:04:27.520They've also got extra prosecution help up there, all in addition to the Guard commitments from the president and the willingness of Governor Evers to use them.
00:04:42.220The left has run unchecked, and the American people, I mean, 5 million new gun owners in the United States just in the first quarter of this year, or second quarter of this year.
00:04:54.640And that's all because people feel like there's nobody to protect me.
00:04:59.960This is why the Second Amendment says a well-regulated militia, and a militia is happening as your last resort.
00:05:37.160I mean, you can see lots of these politicians on the left who encourage the violent protesters without condemning the violence.
00:05:46.420And even using the phrase violent protesters is not accurate.
00:05:51.000Those are rioters and criminals and, in some cases, terrorists.
00:05:54.240So, you know, we do need to fix that, even myself.
00:05:59.380But that kind of encouragement reaches a situation like we saw in Portland last weekend, where you then get, in Kenosha, frankly, you get people who don't believe that law enforcement is going to be provided or allowed to do its job adequately.
00:06:16.040And they start showing up to do it, and very sort of frontier mentality, if you will, in some cases.
00:06:24.500But also, it's other groups who are looking to fight.
00:06:27.880And if you don't calm that violence soon and relatively quickly, you invite that kind of violence, which really spirals out of control.
00:06:39.160That's war in the streets between different Americans.
00:06:43.940And they may all be misbehaving, to put it mildly, but they've been given free reign to do so by the left-wing leadership in those communities.
00:06:54.660And then you asked the Federalist question, which is one I'm very sensitive to.
00:06:58.760I'm sure that's no surprise to you, that we have limited federal jurisdiction.
00:07:04.400The federal government isn't just another police state or office.
00:08:21.860We have him on three different occasions taunting and chasing and tackling this kid.
00:08:27.960The third time is when he turns because he's right on top of him and shoots and he continues to chase him and then he shoots him in the head.
00:08:38.580Then the other guy that he shoots while he's laying down, we have video of that guy approaching him with a gun, pointing it to him like execution style.
00:08:49.020And that's when he shoots that guy's arm off.
00:08:51.320They're charging him with first degree murder.
00:08:58.000Well, that's a pretty knee jerk reaction.
00:09:02.880And, you know, they're charging him because he shot people, but you're going to see undoubtedly the self-defense argument made.
00:09:11.840I tweeted on this yesterday, noting with a lot of the interviews that this kid happened to give beforehand, he was not speaking against any of the people protesting or any of the views.
00:09:46.340And but there's a desire to paint a narrative out there that there's a lot of evidence just with this particular kid that doesn't seem to fit.
00:09:56.340So I would note that to our earlier discussion, when you let violence run amok like this, you get people who just feel like they're, you know, doing their duty, backing up police.
00:10:11.780Obviously, without the training, without the coordination of mutual support of other security forces going out there and and trying to do what this kid was doing.
00:10:24.640And you end up with this kind of scattered violence.
00:10:28.740And and I don't think anybody wants that.
00:10:38.300But I tell you, Ken, any city in America, they they we had several reports last night of neighborhoods, people walking down the street three o'clock in the morning.
00:11:59.340And when you are in cities where you've got politicians who refuse, as we see in Portland, to do police work, then you can fully expect to see more of this kind of response.
00:12:12.900People are going to take things on themselves and they don't have, you know, crowd control munitions.
00:12:17.980When they're threatened, they only have one next step to go to, and that's shooting for self-defense.
00:12:23.680And if we want to avoid this, we need we need better leadership in many of these cities.
00:12:28.400Ken, I know you are you're a little busy today, so I know your time pressure.
00:12:33.680Let me just ask you one more question.
00:12:35.300I started the show saying normally the biggest storm to hit Louisiana in 160 years, the most powerful storm to hit that area in 160 years would be the lead story in all anybody's talking about.
00:14:28.640Well, as of yesterday, I actually talked to folks in New Orleans and and when you compare weather across the whole front, they were doing pretty well.
00:14:38.580And as you know, you know, we talked about water.
00:14:44.040The flooding can can hit New Orleans later.
00:15:31.120He was talking about the National Guard not only going down to Louisiana and everything that's been happening with the federal government down in Louisiana,
00:15:38.340but also the Wisconsin governor finally said to Donald Trump.
00:15:47.380So they're on their way up to Kenosha.
00:15:49.520One of the really the only reason we know what's going on and that there is a chance that what's now being called the Rittenhouse incident is is known and doesn't become the Reichstag fire.
00:16:06.380Is because we have people on the ground, really brave reporters who are willing to go in and and videotape.
00:16:17.600And so we have this incident from like four different angles.
00:16:21.720Now, none of them from the networks, the networks are saying this was straight up murder.
00:16:29.360I think you could make a case that not even close, but we'll see how this plays out.
00:16:34.800Richie McGinnis, he is with the Daily Caller and he is the chief video director and he has been there.
00:16:40.680In fact, he's the guy who first rushed to the guy that was shot in the head and helped him into the ambulance, help carry his body to help.
00:18:13.680So actually right before the shooting took place, I witnessed the riot control clear out protesters from an area that had been burned out two consecutive nights.
00:18:28.340And actually the night prior to the shooting, I saw the business that Kyle was standing in front of burning with the business owners and some employees of that business using a power washer to try to put out the fire because, because the fire trucks weren't coming.
00:18:41.760And so the next night I saw Kyle, along with a number of armed men, some of them were also on the roof of the business, standing with what looked to be AR-15 in, at least over Kyle's shoulder.
00:18:54.760And I immediately asked if any of them would be interested in doing the interview as to why they were there.
00:18:59.760He actually didn't volunteer his name, but he said that he was willing to appear on camera and get an interview.
00:19:04.780So I interviewed him for about two and a half minutes.
00:19:07.120And actually, after the interview concluded, they said, we're going to go try to find if anybody needs medical aid after this, after the riot control just came through, tear gas people.
00:19:20.240So they actually went out into the crowd to, left the dealership to, Kyle was trying, shouting out, does anybody need medical aid?
00:19:28.260Is there any indication from you, Richie, that he was, you know, a white supremacist, that he had the intention of going out and shooting people or, I mean, they're, they're charging him with first degree murder.
00:19:52.460Any, any indication that that's who this guy was?
00:19:58.800So obviously I'm not going to speculate on the legal side of things, you know, whether it was murder, whether it was self-defense, that's, that's worse to decide.
00:20:05.280But what I, what I can say is that during the brief time that I met him, he came across as a very young and innocent kid who did not know the degree of the situation that he was in.
00:20:17.980And, and, you know, again, I only spoke to him for about two minutes and that was the first time I had ever seen him before, but that was my first perception.
00:20:26.520He told me that he was there both to protect the business and to make sure that anybody who needed medical aid would get it.
00:20:34.700And he also did note the absence of police and necessity for somebody to provide a degree of law and order.
00:20:42.080So that was, you know, it was, again, it was only about a two and a half minute interaction.
00:21:12.660So actually I was in the hospital by then.
00:21:14.740Well, actually I was heading to the hospital by then.
00:21:18.480The shooting that I witnessed was the first shooting, which is the one playing right now.
00:21:24.420And that was when things really started.
00:21:27.800I believe that the second shooting that took place very, very soon after, but after the shots were fired, people were just looking for individuals with guns to, you know, detain or whatever.
00:21:39.680So even, even the New York, even the New York Times said in their tick tock that they released today that the, the guy who was shot was pursuing.
00:21:52.100We have him on tape as being a real antagonist to these guys, calling them all kinds of names that we can't say on the air, the N word, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:34.060I think it's six shots ring out from elsewhere that you can, you can hear, right?
00:22:40.000Yeah, I actually, um, that was my, two of my colleagues, uh, who, who filmed the video.
00:22:46.420I was actually six or seven feet behind them.
00:22:48.240And once I realized that this situation was turning into a situation where somebody was going to get shot, I actually focused more on what was in front of me than my phone in my hand.
00:22:59.660And actually I was about seven feet behind them when, uh, the shot, uh, reached for Kyle's weapon.
00:23:09.580I saw that happen and he basically avoided the reach and then fired.
00:23:16.780What I saw were three shots from Kyle's gun, but I also heard some other shots coming from elsewhere.
00:23:23.500So you, but you were behind, did you fear for your life?
00:23:27.720Is it reasonable to believe that, that Kyle was freaking out thinking they were shooting at him?
00:23:33.840Yeah, so actually I was running behind them because me being the middle of three brothers, my first instinct was to yell at them to, to chill out because I knew, and I've been in Seattle, I've been in Portland, I've been in New York, I've been in DC.
00:23:48.460These, these protest zones, things spiral out of control very quickly.
00:23:50.960So knowing that Kyle was a young man that I just interviewed with a very powerful weapon in his hands, I was trying to emphasize the fact that everybody just needed to stop because this was going to get bad quickly.
00:24:02.360And basically the moment that I was doing that, I was running behind them.
00:24:05.080Kyle turned around and I'm not sure if he turned around because the shot rang out or if he turned around because the man was pursuing him and he felt cornered.
00:24:14.720But what I do know is that the moment that he turned around, I entered the line of fire because I was behind that man just about seven feet.
00:24:22.760And you can see in the video, I'm actually standing right there.
00:25:24.360Glenn, when all of this stuff started after George Floyd was killed or died, our team is based in Washington, D.C.
00:25:39.260And we were there at the White House on the ground when things really started to spiral out of control.
00:25:44.140And as these protest zones sprung up around the country, what we noticed is that nobody was on the ground in the 12 a.m. to 4 a.m. hours when all of the actual violence takes place.
00:26:10.720But they weren't out there at 12 a.m. or 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. when fights were happening with individuals who were all armed with no police officers anywhere to be seen.
00:26:20.180And no chance for police to even come in there because they really couldn't.
00:26:25.680So I knew that that was our video team's responsibility to tell the American public exactly what was going on in those zones at that time.
00:26:36.260Because the prevailing narrative was that, you know, it was peaceful and all kumbaya.
00:26:40.820And what we saw and what we reported on, it speaks to itself.
00:26:44.940I don't know if this was your video last night, but I saw a sheriff's, you know, armored car come in to Kenosha last night.
00:27:02.680What are you expecting people to do when the feds arrive?
00:27:09.820It's interesting because what we saw happen in Portland is, I think, very much being reflected here.
00:27:16.680The courthouse is really, in this case, it's a county courthouse, not a federal courthouse.
00:27:20.340But it's very much the center of the protests.
00:27:22.680And actually, they put up a fence that's almost exactly the same construction as the one in Portland.
00:27:26.880And what happened in Portland is when the feds arrived, things escalated because the perception of the protesters, or whatever you want to call them, was that, you know, Donald Trump was putting his foot in their community.
00:27:43.180And I think that this is only the beginning of the protests that we're going to see here in Kenosha as well, similar to what we're seeing in Portland.
00:28:06.500I want to play a couple of clips from last night.
00:28:21.820Here's Burgess Owens on what the people want you to believe.
00:28:26.600I was raised in the South during the days of Jim Crow and the KKK.
00:28:30.880Even through the challenges of segregation, we were taught that anything is possible in America.
00:28:36.960When I was 22 years old, I thought all my dreams had come true when I was drafted by the New York Jets.
00:28:43.140Ten years later, with a Pro Bowl nod and a Super Bowl championship under my belt, I left the NFL to start a business.
00:28:49.880I thought I could never fail, but years later I did, and I lost everything.
00:28:54.880As I moved my family of six into a one-bedroom basement apartment in Brooklyn, New York, I had a choice to make.
00:29:01.760To feel sorry for myself or get to work.
00:29:03.920I worked as a chimney sweep during the day, and a security guard at night.
00:29:09.160It was humbling to be recognized cleaning a chimney by someone who once cheered me as an NFL fan.
00:29:15.440But those hard days would pay off, and eventually I started a career, a rewarding career, in the corporate world.
00:29:22.040We live in a country where we're encouraged to dream big, where second chances are at the core of our American DNA.
00:29:27.980We don't hear that same message from Nancy Pelosi's Congress, career politicians, elitists, and even a former bartender who want us to believe it's impossible.
00:29:39.260They want us to believe that what I did, what my great-great-grandfather did, is impossible for ordinary Americans.
00:30:03.100I mean, I know what it's like to be at the top of the world, and then not be at the top of the world, and that is a really difficult thing to, if you don't expect, if you don't accept that as a great lesson of humility, it can really drive you crazy.
00:30:23.840And I'll tell you, this is the thing that one American can tell the other, the greatest words, nine words of hope, if I can do it, you can do it.
00:30:30.920And we all go through our obstacles, that's what we have to realize.
00:30:40.600So, country, as long as you're green big, as long as you hang tough and just keep up the good work, keep the faith, good things are happening in this country.
00:30:48.340So, I noticed during your speech, they put, last night, they started putting up to register to vote, text this number.
00:30:57.100And I think that the RNC has done the best job of reaching out to a community that they have only just kind of scratched the surface because they've never believed it was worth the time, that nobody would ever change their vote, that no black person would ever vote for a Republican over a Democrat.
00:31:17.320And this convention is so different than any RNC convention I've ever seen.
00:31:25.280Well, you know what it is, we're at a point, Glenn, and we look at it, it's been a really rough year, but it's also a year in which we're more gray.
00:31:34.180We're seeing, for no question, what we've been talking about for years.
00:31:38.600It's no longer hypothetical what socialism looks like.
00:31:41.640We see it full face, and we have Americans across the board can finally have conversations about what we don't want.
00:31:51.120We don't want dark, depression, death, and destruction.
00:31:54.520We never have been there, and I think that the left, just because they have no vision, they have no idea they've pushed it way too far, and American people are just not going to put up with it.
00:32:06.760I know to some degree, because I've been told what it is like to be a conservative and black, and so many times, and I've had this experience being conservative in New York, where people will come up and say,
00:32:21.060I'm conservative too, but don't say anything.
00:32:24.060Is that changing in the black community, where they're not whispering as much?
00:32:33.460I think the greatest president of President Obama was that he's such a lousy president that black people finally say, you know, whatever happened, I hope it changed.
00:32:57.540So, no, I'm excited about what's happening.
00:32:59.080And for those who are just kind of, you know, what I think is going to happen, those who still don't quite understand all of the ways that we believe in our party,
00:33:09.940they're realizing when they see their homes being destroyed or their lives, their businesses being just upended,
00:33:16.240they're realizing that there's something wrong with the party they were part of.
00:33:19.140And all we have to do is have more voices like ours, and that's going to continue to move us in the right direction.
00:33:23.640I feel very hopeful, Glenn, for what's happening across the country.
00:33:26.620You know, it was a lot easier to make this case before COVID because people were actually seeing it.
00:33:34.800Now they're struggling again, and the black communities, and it's not helping in some cities when they're burning things down to the ground.
00:34:29.560And I've always believed that the black community and the Hispanic community and those minorities that we've been kind of marginalized to a degree
00:34:37.280are going to be the communities that as we pull ourselves back from the abyss, we'll pull our entire country back.
00:34:43.100History will be told that it was the black, it was the minority communities that truly was a salvation for our nation,
00:34:48.640because we're getting it, we're waking up, and as we do so, the left has so little power,
00:34:54.260and they cannot get their illegals in fast enough to replace us.
00:34:58.320And they can't get enough torsionally ballots in to replace us.
00:35:03.480So this will go down in history as the minorities, those who had trouble assimilating,
00:35:09.180as being the people that bring our country back and show the rest of the world what America really looks like.