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00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome back. I mean, I guess to me, you've been here. But thank you so much for tuning into today's podcast. We have a lot to talk about. We're going to talk a little bit about the guy we killed in Baghdad. You know, that's just Donald Trump going crazy.

00:00:15.580 The Epstein suicide note, Star Wars review, the review of the movie 1917. Surprisingly, I'm a Seahawks fan as well as we find out in this episode.

00:00:29.300 Steve Dace will talk about politics and what's really happening on the ground in Iowa and a tribute to Don Imus. All on today's podcast.

00:00:45.580 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:53.680 We're going to war. It's World War Three. Maybe, maybe not. Let's let's let's not count our chickens before they hatch here.

00:01:05.580 Let's talk a little bit here. I'm going to next hour really get into who is this guy that we killed?

00:01:11.780 Why did we kill him? What do we know about him?

00:01:16.840 Was this just something that, you know, Donald Trump did just half cocked or perhaps is this something that was coming for a long time?

00:01:26.560 And yet no one seemed to understand the signs that Donald Trump was showing starting.

00:01:33.680 Oh, I don't know. Maybe last spring.

00:01:35.980 I'll give you that coming up in an hour. But let me just say this.

00:01:40.900 World War Three.

00:01:42.980 I don't think so.

00:01:45.260 Unless.

00:01:47.660 Iran really goes to town. 1.00

00:01:50.620 And I think the only place that they would really go to town and let everybody know it is Israel.

00:01:57.480 They might let missiles fly to Israel and destroy Tel Aviv.

00:02:02.600 That's what they're they're talking about now.

00:02:04.640 If they do that, they are betting that that will awaken the Arab world and the Arab world would unite in a caliphate behind them. 0.95

00:02:14.640 That is a possibility.

00:02:17.140 Wash the world in blood.

00:02:18.400 However, I don't think that they would take on America knowingly.

00:02:25.040 So, in other words, them sending a missile, you know, from a ship off the off our coast or whatever or, you know, blowing up the presidential motorcade or, you know, they're threatening the White House.

00:02:38.500 I just don't see them doing that directly as a state because we would wipe them off the face of the earth within an hour.

00:02:47.360 They kill our president and Americans, no matter no matter what Hollywood is saying today. 0.95

00:02:53.880 Who was it that joked?

00:02:55.820 We'll give it.

00:02:56.680 We'll do it for half price.

00:02:57.820 It was George Lopez that they said.

00:03:00.520 What was it?

00:03:01.580 Eighty million dollar bounty on Donald Trump's head.

00:03:04.780 Correct.

00:03:05.000 And he came out and said, oh, we'd do it for half that.

00:03:10.080 Really?

00:03:10.540 Would we, George? 0.99

00:03:12.140 One thing that does bring Americans together is when you kill our president.

00:03:17.200 Now, I don't think that they would do that.

00:03:21.640 However, I do think that they would possibly go after an embassy.

00:03:25.880 That's what they were doing led by this guy.

00:03:29.600 That's what they were doing in Baghdad, trying to take our embassy.

00:03:35.000 We have a history with Iran taking our embassies.

00:03:39.280 This is the guy, as you will find out next hour.

00:03:42.540 There's a good possibility.

00:03:44.500 This is the guy that actually orchestrated Benghazi. 0.90

00:03:48.320 So he took over our consulate.

00:03:51.700 Now he's trying to take over our embassy.

00:03:54.500 No, you can't do that.

00:04:00.740 So what's the retaliation?

00:04:03.220 And what's the solution?

00:04:06.620 Retaliation.

00:04:08.440 We have to wait to see, but it ties into what I'll tell you next hour.

00:04:13.220 World War III?

00:04:20.460 If it's just us and Iran, we win. 1.00

00:04:24.980 And it's not going to be World War III.

00:04:26.920 If they really believe that they are put in the position now where the caliphate can happen, it would be World War III.

00:04:39.580 We'll give you more in it in just a little while.

00:04:42.100 But there's no draft coming.

00:04:43.280 It's amazing how the press works. 0.74

00:04:47.840 First, that Donald Trump is half-cocked.

00:04:49.860 No, I can go back to your own reporting and find out all I need to know about how long this has been coming.

00:04:59.700 But the press is now trying to scare people into there's a draft coming.

00:05:04.740 No one in the Pentagon wants a draft.

00:05:09.280 No one.

00:05:10.340 No military branch wants a draft.

00:05:13.340 The only way that there would be a draft is if the Democrats insisted on one.

00:05:19.820 Because every conservative and every single person in the Pentagon does not want a draft. 0.96

00:05:26.580 Because you don't want somebody watching your back that doesn't give a flying crap and doesn't want to be there. 0.93

00:05:34.740 You only want the people there who are prepared to fight. 0.97

00:05:39.140 And Democrats propose a draft all the time.

00:05:41.980 All the time.

00:05:42.400 I mean, it used to be every single year.

00:05:43.980 I don't know if they're still doing it.

00:05:45.080 But they would propose a draft every single year because their little philosophy that not enough white people, I think, are on the front lines.

00:05:55.440 They need to turn everything into race. 0.97

00:05:57.880 But that is something that the Democrats have been talking about for a very long time.

00:06:02.080 It's not realistic.

00:06:03.140 I mean, we're not even at war.

00:06:03.960 This is with Iran right now. 0.80

00:06:06.020 I mean, we are in a proxy way.

00:06:07.700 And, yes, we did have a very high-profile incident.

00:06:10.760 However, that incident was covered under our efforts in Iraq.

00:06:15.400 He was in Iraq.

00:06:17.560 Yes, he was a high-level official who was organizing attacks against our troops in the country where we have an authorized military action.

00:06:24.820 He's also not responsive to the people.

00:06:30.380 He does not fall under the elected government.

00:06:35.680 That's the thing that you have to understand.

00:06:38.120 There is an elected government of Iran.

00:06:41.840 And then above that, there is the Supreme Council.

00:06:45.220 And the Supreme Council doesn't answer to the elected officials.

00:06:49.680 In fact, they're the ones orchestrating what all of the officials are doing and who can run and who could be a legitimate candidate.

00:06:57.620 So the people have very little say. 0.71

00:07:00.020 But this guy in particular, he only answers to the Supreme Council, which is all of the crazy mullahs. 0.98

00:07:07.240 He doesn't answer, doesn't have to talk to, doesn't have to report to, doesn't have anything to do with the elected government. 0.94

00:07:13.500 So what you're talking about is a guy who is rogue, who's listening to religious zealots, and he's going around the world setting up ways to kill people and to kill Americans, to kill anybody that stands in the way of the Iranian idea of a new caliphate. 0.87

00:07:33.500 I love how they keep bringing in the, look, we've had intelligence failures before. 0.87

00:07:39.780 And, you know, who knows what this has got.

00:07:41.680 They're saying there was an imminent attack.

00:07:43.280 And there's been these, you know, remember the Iraq War?

00:07:46.620 You went into that and you had nothing.

00:07:48.240 And it's like, well, I guess theoretically this is possible.

00:07:51.200 But let's investigate this for a second.

00:07:52.860 He's admitted a bunch of this stuff.

00:07:54.740 He keeps going on television and saying he's killing Americans.

00:07:58.160 So I don't know.

00:07:59.360 I mean, unless he's lying.

00:08:00.880 Now, you could definitely argue there's a lack of intelligence in admitting these things on television.

00:08:05.960 That's a lack of intelligence.

00:08:07.220 But that's the only one I think we're dealing with.

00:08:08.460 Or the lack of intelligence in the reporters themselves.

00:08:12.340 You know.

00:08:13.100 They're not even trying, right?

00:08:14.560 I mean, you just look for things to target the Trump administration here.

00:08:19.120 There's nobody who's arguing that has any credibility that this guy was not guilty and was one of the most dangerous people in the world.

00:08:31.460 You can argue lots of things around the process around it.

00:08:33.840 Like, whoa, did he call Nancy Pelosi in advance?

00:08:36.860 Well, I'm sure that would have worked out well.

00:08:39.020 We would have found this guy.

00:08:39.960 He would have been in Acapulco before the missiles started coming.

00:08:44.040 So you can't do that with this administration.

00:08:47.180 They will leak against him on anything.

00:08:49.300 And you have to be guarding that side of it if you're Donald Trump at this point.

00:08:54.240 This is what happens when you can't work together on anything.

00:08:59.940 When there is nothing sacred and it's all about destroying a president.

00:09:04.640 When it's all about destroying a president, that's what you get.

00:09:07.940 The president can't trust you, can't talk to you, can't bring you in for advice and counsel, just has to do it without you.

00:09:16.720 Because he knows that anything he says in private will immediately be leaked if they either disagree with it or think that they can get a political leg up.

00:09:28.220 That's what happens.

00:09:29.440 This is not good.

00:09:30.360 And Trump has to follow the law whether he thinks people are leaking against him anyway.

00:09:34.640 But what he doesn't have to do is follow every little traditional disclosure that friends used to give each other back in the day where they would go out and have drinks at the fancy steakhouse after work.

00:09:45.460 He doesn't have to give them that.

00:09:47.020 And that is the only thing they seem to be complaining about.

00:09:49.700 Okay.

00:09:51.540 This all relies on trust.

00:09:53.820 And who do you trust?

00:09:54.940 Well, 60 Minutes is now throwing, I mean, they were very careful last night to say, well, we don't have all of the facts.

00:10:09.060 Well, if you weren't comfortable with what you were doing, you shouldn't do it.

00:10:17.340 But I think they were comfortable in reporting last night.

00:10:21.500 It doesn't look like Jeffrey Epstein was all that sad.

00:10:26.680 Doesn't look like at least.

00:10:29.120 Oh, you didn't read his note.

00:10:30.800 His note was devastating.

00:10:32.520 Really?

00:10:32.660 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:33.880 He didn't cover that.

00:10:34.340 This guy was on the note.

00:10:35.900 The note won me over.

00:10:37.160 Definite suicide.

00:10:38.120 Really?

00:10:38.720 I mean, the things he was going through.

00:10:40.860 Mm-hmm.

00:10:41.600 I almost feel that we shouldn't tell the audience because it may make them so sad that they all hang themselves.

00:10:47.540 Well, I'm going to risk that.

00:10:49.660 Oh.

00:10:50.060 And we'll go over what happened on 60 Minutes last night.

00:10:53.940 Oh, and Ricky Gervais.

00:10:55.980 He remains my hero.

00:10:57.720 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:11:20.360 All right, so let's go through what happened last night on 60 Minutes.

00:11:27.900 With Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:29.640 Yeah, it's interesting because, really, this story was out there for such a long time.

00:11:33.500 Conservatives complained about it for years and years and years that Jeffrey Epstein was, you know, the normal target was Bill Clinton that he was hanging out with.

00:11:41.300 And nobody in the media cared about this story.

00:11:44.180 Nope.

00:11:44.400 Eventually, we got to a point in which the guy who gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein was in the Trump administration.

00:11:53.000 And at that point, thousands of reporters swamped to the scene to figure out exactly what happened.

00:12:01.420 And some of the reporting, honestly, has been really, really good.

00:12:03.600 I mean, the Miami Herald probably at the top of that list.

00:12:05.960 But there's been some excellent reporting on this.

00:12:07.840 And now, you know, it does seem like the journalists have crossed the line as, you know, now they care.

00:12:12.480 I'm not sure it was all of the journalists.

00:12:14.560 I think some of the journalists did care.

00:12:16.260 I think it was all of their bosses either didn't care or were being told not to care.

00:12:23.260 We know this with the James O'Keefe story where they were able to get the one reporter who, you know, was complaining about not being able to get the story out, you know, years ago.

00:12:33.140 Yeah.

00:12:33.480 NBC, we know that as well.

00:12:35.200 So 60 Minutes runs a big thing on basically did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself.

00:12:39.660 And one of the guests they have on is a guy who was a doctor who was paid by Epstein's brother to figure out the truth.

00:12:48.260 So realize that there's a motivation here to telling you that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:12:54.480 Right, but he is also a credible witness.

00:12:56.020 But a credible guy.

00:12:56.720 Yeah, he's done many, many of these.

00:13:00.260 He's very credible.

00:13:01.760 So, Sarah, I think we have one clip from Mike here from Dr. Michael Bowden is his name.

00:13:07.540 He is, or Baden, I believe it is.

00:13:09.940 He was a, this is the guy who was paid by the Epstein family to kind of figure out, look into what really happened here.

00:13:16.140 Let's listen.

00:13:17.100 Do you think there was foul play here?

00:13:18.760 The forensic evidence released so far, including autopsy, point much more to murder and strangulation than the suicide and suicidal hanging.

00:13:29.460 I hesitate to make a final opinion until all the evidence is in.

00:13:34.220 People will say, well, you're being paid by Mark Epstein.

00:13:38.280 So, of course, you're going to say that something suspicious is going on.

00:13:42.880 That's a reasonable thing for some people to think.

00:13:45.220 But our job is to find what the truth is, just to find out whether it's a homicide or a suicide.

00:13:52.580 We still haven't gotten all the information.

00:13:55.600 And this is not a guy who hadn't dealt with situations like this.

00:13:58.620 He had thousands of them.

00:14:00.320 Here he is talking about how rare it is to see the types of fractures from Jeffrey Epstein.

00:14:05.580 I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging.

00:14:12.180 Sometimes there's a fracture of the higher bone or a fracture of the thyroid cartilage.

00:14:17.680 But not three.

00:14:18.400 Very unusual to have two and not three.

00:14:22.720 And going over, over a thousand jail hangings, suicides, in the New York City state prisons over the past 40, 50 years, no one had three fractures.

00:14:33.380 No one.

00:14:35.180 Just no one.

00:14:36.060 But just no one.

00:14:37.200 Out of thousands.

00:14:38.340 Out of 40 years.

00:14:39.880 It's pretty amazing.

00:14:41.080 Yeah.

00:14:41.460 And one of the other points he makes is they have now, these pictures have come out.

00:14:45.120 They're pretty graphic of Epstein.

00:14:46.520 You can see close-ups of his neck.

00:14:48.980 And a couple things.

00:14:50.320 You see like a line of blood essentially on his neck.

00:14:52.600 You do not see blood on the noose that was supposedly used, at least in the pictures.

00:14:58.340 You do not see a point where when you have typically a hanging, you put the thing around your neck.

00:15:02.980 It sort of slips a little bit.

00:15:04.360 So you'd see almost markings of a slippage, which they did not see.

00:15:08.120 Also, they go into some depth on the fractures, which just seem to be completely odd.

00:15:18.960 And the fact that this, the pictures are more consistent with a wire, essentially, a wire strangulation than a typical jailhouse hanging of themselves.

00:15:31.700 However, the other evidence presented was pretty compelling as well.

00:15:35.860 And, you know, what do you want to do?

00:15:37.020 You want to come up with a motivation for something like this if it's going to happen?

00:15:39.420 And the motivation was clear in his suicide note.

00:15:42.580 Oh, was it?

00:15:42.880 And the suicide note was incredibly powerful.

00:15:45.940 I mean, you'd kill yourself, too, in this situation.

00:15:47.940 Sure, sure, sure.

00:15:48.620 He makes several points here.

00:15:50.220 Number one, Epstein writes, kept me in a locked shower for an hour.

00:15:54.800 So, I mean, look, you molest a few hundred teenagers, you're not going to be, I mean, it's going to be 20 minutes in a shower, maybe.

00:16:05.220 But an hour in a shower?

00:16:08.140 Now, I know, first of all, showers are awesome.

00:16:10.700 And as my wife would tell you, I've taken too many one-hour showers.

00:16:14.780 They're just awesome.

00:16:16.260 However, when you're locked in there against your will for one full hour, that's 60 minutes, also the name of the show that this happened on.

00:16:25.080 That's powerful.

00:16:25.860 That's number one.

00:16:26.620 Coincidence.

00:16:27.280 How about this?

00:16:29.480 It looks like Noel, who may have been one of the guards, sent in burnt food.

00:16:35.680 Holy cow. 0.89

00:16:37.000 Now, the shower, you didn't have me, but now they're burning the food.

00:16:40.520 Burnt food.

00:16:41.180 I'm starting to get sad myself if I'm thinking this is happening to me.

00:16:45.140 Right.

00:16:45.360 Now you're really sad.

00:16:46.560 Yeah.

00:16:46.800 The next part, giant bugs crawling on my hands.

00:16:52.020 Now, I wouldn't, that sounds pretty bad.

00:16:55.300 I don't know exactly what happens.

00:16:57.000 My guess is he wakes up in the middle of the night, there's a cockroach on his hand.

00:17:00.860 He's not used to this activity, likely.

00:17:03.900 He, I don't know a lot of people that are used to that activity.

00:17:08.780 I did live in a couple of residences early in my life.

00:17:11.020 Yeah, early in my life.

00:17:12.340 It was not so great.

00:17:12.900 Um, however, those three kind of build up, you know, the, the shower for an hour, the

00:17:17.740 burnt food, the bugs on the hands.

00:17:19.360 That's all really bad, but it builds really to the final conclusion, which is typically

00:17:23.700 the thing you would write before you commit an actual suicide, which is no fun, exclamation

00:17:30.260 point, exclamation point, two of them, two, two exclamation points.

00:17:35.040 No fun.

00:17:35.860 No fun.

00:17:36.780 Now, of course you go to prison for molesting a bunch of children.

00:17:39.920 You assume it's going to be fun, but not here.

00:17:42.820 No fun.

00:17:44.000 Zero fun.

00:17:44.640 Not even a little fun.

00:17:46.000 He specifically says no fun. 0.98

00:17:48.240 That's the most ridiculous suicide note I've ever heard. 0.98

00:17:50.620 It doesn't see. 0.99

00:17:51.140 I mean, it looks like a couple of things he wanted to bring up to his lawyer.

00:17:54.100 It has nothing.

00:17:54.560 It doesn't look like a suicide note at all.

00:17:56.580 Like maybe he's whining to his lawyer for better treatment or whatever, but that's

00:18:00.840 not a suicide note.

00:18:02.580 Unbelievable.

00:18:03.820 No fun.

00:18:04.940 No fun.

00:18:05.780 And it almost points to the fact that it wasn't a suicide.

00:18:09.260 Why are you complaining about your conditions if you're about to hang yourself?

00:18:13.440 It's very suspicious.

00:18:14.420 Well, unless these are the reasons.

00:18:16.260 But those are not reasons.

00:18:18.840 No, not reasons.

00:18:19.460 I mean, maybe the giant bugs.

00:18:20.760 I might kill myself too if I had giant bugs all over my hands. 0.81

00:18:23.360 But, you know, no fun.

00:18:25.140 It's not going to be fun, bud.

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00:19:03.380 We were just talking off the air about how cars are not holding their value anymore because of all of the new technology that is out.

00:19:13.640 And, you know, you used to go in and at least I would, you know, you'd go in and you'd try to buy a new car, but you'd buy the new car.

00:19:21.360 You'd buy a 2019 today because you'd get a big savings on it.

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00:19:50.040 First, making the idea of the fleet.

00:19:54.520 Now, this is according to one of the guys we talked to.

00:19:57.120 He was the former chairman of the board of GM, I think.

00:20:01.180 He said GM won't be making cars the way we think about cars today by 2030.

00:20:06.380 He said there'll be fleets and most people won't own their cars.

00:20:10.660 And that was such a hard thing for somebody of my age to think not owning a car, but the way cars are changing in technology, the only car that's going to not look completely outdated or be completely outdated is Tesla because it will update its software all the time.

00:20:31.960 And so when you want that new, you know, that new thing, you just update the car.

00:20:37.940 Well, GM, all these other car companies are not doing that, which makes the resale value of your car go dramatically down.

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00:21:11.620 We go to Kenneth Timmerman.

00:21:14.120 He is he's the author of Dark Forces that came out a few years ago.

00:21:19.840 And he really knows about who this guy was that we we killed last week in the airport of Baghdad.

00:21:30.180 A lot of people are upset.

00:21:31.240 I don't think you should be upset because I don't think the real Iranian people are all that upset either.

00:21:38.100 They're probably cheering the death of this guy, at least the people that want to be free.

00:21:44.420 Welcome to the program, Ken.

00:21:45.780 How are you?

00:21:46.940 I'm doing great.

00:21:47.680 Thanks for having me on.

00:21:48.600 You bet.

00:21:49.380 Important topic.

00:21:49.700 OK, so tell me who this guy is before you get back to what you really discovered in Libya.

00:21:58.520 Tell us just generally who this guy is.

00:22:01.120 Well, he is, as you mentioned, he's as bad as bin Laden. 1.00

00:22:05.980 He is the chief terrorist of the Iranian regime. 0.83

00:22:10.080 He runs a whole legion of overseas terror operators called the Quds Force. 0.66

00:22:15.720 That means the Jerusalem Force. 0.81

00:22:17.720 Their goal is to spread the Iranian ideology and the regime itself to foreign countries.

00:22:24.360 So they're present in Lebanon, they're present in Syria, they're present in Yemen, they're present in Iraq, Afghanistan.

00:22:31.040 They're the ones who command terror attacks.

00:22:33.940 They're the ones who were going to blow up the Saudi ambassador in the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C., 0.58

00:22:40.720 plant a bomb there because they didn't like the guy, take out perhaps 100 people having lunch in the downtown Washington, D.C.

00:22:48.700 This was 2011.

00:22:50.340 He blew up the Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires, killed 86 Jews at a Jewish center there in 1994.

00:22:58.580 That was also one of their operations. 0.97

00:23:01.440 He is the worst of the worst.

00:23:03.460 And in addition, he is the best that they've got.

00:23:07.060 So we just took out somebody incredibly important for the regime.

00:23:10.680 Okay, what people don't understand is that the regime, the elected regime, is all hand-selected by the real regime,

00:23:21.040 the mullahs and the ayatollah that actually run everything.

00:23:24.640 And this guy did not report to the elected officials.

00:23:28.800 He reported right directly to the ayatollah.

00:23:32.120 Correct.

00:23:33.020 He was his right-hand man.

00:23:34.960 And you see again and again pictures of the two of them together.

00:23:38.460 He was doing the bidding of the Supreme Leader.

00:23:42.120 And I can tell you today, Glenn, that the Supreme Leader himself personally is shaking in his plimsolls.

00:23:50.660 And why do you say that?

00:23:52.520 Well, because he realizes that the U.S. no longer is going to be bound by the diplomatic constraints that have held us back in the past.

00:24:01.960 There has been a kind of taboo, if you wish, on hitting people like Soleimani for many, many years.

00:24:09.180 And this is from the State Department.

00:24:10.540 It's from the Pentagon.

00:24:11.520 I'll give you one example.

00:24:12.940 In 2007, his people kidnapped five American soldiers in Iraq, in Karabala, and murdered them.

00:24:22.400 And instead of striking back at Soleimani, we released some of his people that had been arrested in Iraq.

00:24:31.320 Soleimani and the Quds Force were responsible for approximately 600 deaths of U.S. soldiers in Iraq with specially formed, explosively formed penetrators. 0.91

00:24:42.340 These are warheads that are planted in IEDs along the road.

00:24:46.840 Very, very deadly.

00:24:48.320 I've written about this quite a bit.

00:24:49.660 You can see that at Ken Timmerman dot com.

00:24:52.100 And he we did nothing.

00:24:54.240 We did not retaliate against Soleimani.

00:24:56.380 So now the Supreme Leader realizes the gloves are off.

00:24:59.560 He could be next.

00:25:00.580 And certainly, for sure, the man who replaces Soleimani, should he conduct similar operations against Americans, he is definitely going to be next.

00:25:09.180 So it's almost as if history is repeating itself in in some ways.

00:25:12.880 Under the Obama administration, we had the Benghazi consulate attacked.

00:25:19.500 And then when Iran tries to do it again with a new Reagan, if you will, somebody who thinks a little like Reagan, we don't put up with it.

00:25:31.100 We put up with it under Barack Obama.

00:25:34.360 And in fact, your reporting shows that that Soleimani was the architect of the Benghazi nightmare.

00:25:43.340 He was indeed.

00:25:45.280 And I know this primarily from Iranian sources, but also from Americans who were who were had access to some of the briefings before the 9-11 attacks and to a very key document, which is in my one of my books on Benghazi called Deception.

00:26:02.060 This is a defense intelligence agency after action report delivered to then director Michael Flynn, Michael Flynn, remember, who was then became the national security advisor to President Trump and was going to clean house in the intelligence agencies and of the deep state.

00:26:20.520 Well, Flynn asked the entire defense intelligence community what happened in Benghazi on September 11th, 2012.

00:26:28.060 And I specifically want you to tell me what we knew about the Quds Force involvement.

00:26:32.860 That means Soleimani and the Al Qaeda involvement.

00:26:36.540 The report that came back, which I've published, you can see it at KenTimmerman.com or in my book Deceptions.

00:26:42.080 That report came back six pages.

00:26:44.200 The first three pages were on the Quds Force involvement.

00:26:46.700 Everything that we knew about them, everything that we knew about Qasem Soleimani in the Benghazi attacks blanked out.

00:26:53.260 Three pages of it.

00:26:54.100 And then the last three pages were about Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda affiliates.

00:26:58.560 And there you see a sentence here, a sentence there.

00:27:00.680 But we knew a lot.

00:27:02.520 The U.S. intelligence community knew a lot.

00:27:04.440 And I've written about that in my books on Benghazi.

00:27:08.240 All right.

00:27:09.840 Let's go to the embassy in Baghdad.

00:27:15.360 He was the driving force behind that attack?

00:27:18.920 Absolutely.

00:27:21.000 And I think we know pretty clearly by now from what Secretary of State Pompeo has said and the president, the U.S. intelligence community knew it.

00:27:30.460 They knew that Soleimani was behind that.

00:27:34.000 You know, they were they were attempting, Glenn, to repeat what happened in Benghazi.

00:27:37.820 Correct.

00:27:38.080 They thought that they could storm the embassy and that we would just cave and nobody would come.

00:27:43.180 There'd be no reinforcements.

00:27:44.940 No one would come to the rescue.

00:27:46.340 Well, what a difference a president makes.

00:27:49.120 This president immediately sent 100 Marines from Kuwait.

00:27:52.620 They secured the embassy and the attackers dispersed as opposed to what happened in Benghazi.

00:27:57.860 What do you say about the I'm just quoting a headline here?

00:28:03.380 Millions of angry mourners from all walks of life participate in separate separate funeral ceremonies held in the southwestern city, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah of the of the martyr Soleimani.

00:28:17.960 Well, I don't see them joining in the ranks of martyrdom with him.

00:28:20.960 Let's just put it that way.

00:28:22.380 We've always known the regime is capable of mustering a crowd.

00:28:26.760 In many cases, they pay people to come.

00:28:29.720 They they let them get off work.

00:28:31.280 They oblige government employees to attend these mass rallies to chant death with America.

00:28:37.240 And many times when when the cameras pan out or you get somebody from a pro freedom movement taking a YouTube video and they post it, you see that when the camera pans out, there's nobody in the square.

00:28:49.900 There's a there's a tight crowd around the speaker up front and then there's nobody in the rest of the square.

00:28:55.040 These are rent mobs.

00:28:57.420 The people of Iran who are sick and tired of these tyrants who've been governing them for 40 years and 40 years of darkness in Iran. 0.91

00:29:05.940 The people of Iran are celebrating.

00:29:08.160 And I know this.

00:29:09.140 I've seen it all over social media.

00:29:12.100 They're very active in social media when the regime does not block the Internet.

00:29:15.480 They've been celebrating the demise of Qasem Soleimani and can't can't wait until the rest of the tyrants go with it.

00:29:22.900 People are trying to make Donald Trump look like this was just something that, you know, he's doing because he wanted people not to pay attention to the impeachment, which is what a lot of conservatives said about the bombing of the aspirin factory during the the Monica Lewinsky thing.

00:29:43.100 When Bill Clinton was going after Osama bin Laden, who Americans didn't know at the time, but this you know, I was reading this and it talked about how we have we've always been following him.

00:29:57.580 But the White House told the Pentagon, I want to know where this guy is 24 seven at all times back in May.

00:30:05.700 It was also back in May that we we put the could's force on and the IR.

00:30:13.880 What is it?

00:30:14.280 The IRG C IRG C put them on the terror watch list for the first time, which he is, you know, a controlling member of.

00:30:24.600 Obviously, there was a defection of a very high ranking intelligence officer who seems to be like a a a walking knock list in a way.

00:30:41.640 And he defected in April and brought all kinds of classified documents with him.

00:30:47.760 Is there any connection between his defection and this killing and the the upping of everything in May right after his defection?

00:30:57.920 A very good point that you raise, Glenn, and I really haven't heard anybody else connect those dots.

00:31:04.120 Extremely important.

00:31:05.560 You talk about this defector.

00:31:07.300 He was the head of the intelligence unit of the Islamic Republic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

00:31:13.240 And he did come out and, you know, clearly you say a walking knock list.

00:31:18.580 He knew everything that the IRGC and that the cuts force were doing.

00:31:23.560 Did he give the United States the ability to track Soleimani in real time?

00:31:28.060 I don't know.

00:31:29.340 I don't I don't know about I'm not asking about that.

00:31:31.620 I'm asking, did he bring information?

00:31:33.680 Do you believe that proved or opened the eyes of the administration or the Pentagon and was enough evidence to know this guy we have to watch because he's all over the world and we may have to take him out?

00:31:50.880 I think what happened is that he essentially made it so crystal clear that Soleimani was never going to put down the gloves.

00:32:00.920 He was never going to stop killing our people and that we had to take action.

00:32:04.620 I think that really I think you're right.

00:32:06.580 I think that tipped the balance.

00:32:07.680 And that, by the way, is when you hear Mike Pompeo, he was interviewed right shortly after that defector came out.

00:32:12.800 And he said, yes, we put Qasem Soleimani back on back on the terror list.

00:32:18.380 He was taken off.

00:32:19.180 He personally was taken off by Barack Obama at the moment of the Iran deal.

00:32:24.540 So Pompeo said we put him back on the terror list.

00:32:27.240 And some TV interviewer said, well, does that mean that we're going to do the same thing to him that we did to Osama bin Laden?

00:32:33.940 And Pompeo just gives him that icy stare and says he's a terrorist.

00:32:39.760 All right.

00:32:40.340 So let me ask you a final question.

00:32:42.100 Where does this go?

00:32:44.440 Is Iran and the mullahs and the Ayatollah, are they enough of 12ers that they believe that they're going to wash the world in blood and this is a good thing for them to retaliate? 0.99

00:32:58.360 Or are they in butt-saving mode and may strike, but they're not going to really – they're not going to have their fingerprints really well known on anything?

00:33:10.140 Well, go ahead and let me tell you.

00:33:11.560 I've thought about that an awful lot.

00:33:13.720 And there's something to be said on both sides.

00:33:15.940 But here's where I come down on this.

00:33:17.520 Look at Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:33:22.460 He died at the age of 88, comfortably in his bed of old age.

00:33:27.220 The leaders of this regime, they can be 12ers and they can try to send the masses out to martyrdom, but they themselves are going to save their rear ends. 0.98

00:33:35.860 They've got airplanes waiting to take them out of the country should the regime start to fall.

00:33:40.560 I think they're going to save themselves, and I think the person and the people who have replaced Qasem Soleimani are not going to take dramatic action against the United States because they know they're next.

00:33:51.420 And is this something that we play out?

00:33:57.760 We would be well advised to play out by playing this almost like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

00:34:06.080 Tighten sanctions, help the people on the streets, and make sure everybody knows how evil this regime really is.

00:34:14.880 But we don't have to lob any bullets or any men over there.

00:34:18.680 Absolutely not.

00:34:20.720 And you're right.

00:34:21.560 This is like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

00:34:24.000 We can sit back, enjoy it, but help the people of Iran.

00:34:28.180 I think what we ought to be doing, and apparently we now have the capability of doing this, is make sure whenever the regime shuts off the Internet that we turn it back on so the people of Iran can communicate to the rest of the world so the regime cannot kill in darkness. 0.76

00:34:43.000 Thank you so much.

00:34:44.600 I appreciate it.

00:34:45.320 Kenneth Timmerman, he is the author of many books, one of them, Dark Forces.

00:34:49.600 You can find him at KenTimmerman.com.

00:34:59.000 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:35:13.000 You know, I have absolutely no interest in the foreign press, Golden Globes.

00:35:29.380 Yeah, I have no interest in it.

00:35:30.900 How will you know what movies they think you should see?

00:35:34.100 I'm going to have to wing it on my own.

00:35:36.220 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:37.260 However, Ricky Gervais is one of my favorites.

00:35:40.760 He is brilliant.

00:35:42.920 He is brave.

00:35:44.260 His acting is good.

00:35:46.320 His directing is great.

00:35:47.880 His writing is great.

00:35:49.640 And he's unafraid.

00:35:51.600 We need more Ricky Gervaises.

00:35:53.800 Listen to what he said in his opening monologue last night at the Golden Globes.

00:35:59.580 He just handed them their heads, which I love, which I love.

00:36:05.400 You know who he is?

00:36:07.620 He's the new Don Imus.

00:36:09.140 That's what Don Imus used to do.

00:36:13.940 And I'm going to share a story about Don Imus at the end of the program today.

00:36:18.280 But that's how, you know, people are like, well, Don Imus, he was a racist.

00:36:22.340 Why would you say those things?

00:36:23.900 Because why is Ricky saying these things?

00:36:28.680 Why is he saying them?

00:36:29.920 He doesn't care.

00:36:30.840 He doesn't care.

00:36:33.020 He doesn't care.

00:36:34.160 And you know what?

00:36:35.960 Some of them are, as he said, just jokes.

00:36:38.420 They are just jokes.

00:36:40.540 But others, you know, need to be said.

00:36:44.780 Need to be said to these highfalutin, pompous a-holes.

00:36:49.580 And there's a level of celebrity that he has that is, he can get away with it, at least for a while.

00:36:56.260 I mean, I think Louis C.K. also had that same level.

00:36:58.820 And he was saying things that were really uncomfortable.

00:37:00.460 And I remember at times being like, I can't believe they allow him to keep saying these things.

00:37:03.840 They allow him.

00:37:04.640 That's so un-American. 0.84

00:37:06.220 Well, I know.

00:37:06.780 Totally, right?

00:37:07.320 However, of course, now we see that that was not, eventually he did go away after all of that.

00:37:14.540 And I don't know if the same thing will happen.

00:37:15.720 They're already looking for his old tweets for Ricky Gervais now.

00:37:18.560 They're already publishing articles in left-wing publications about how you should look back at the things he said.

00:37:23.740 They're very offensive.

00:37:24.620 Here's your guide.

00:37:26.400 Ricky Gervais is, he's a hero.

00:37:29.300 I just love the guy.

00:37:30.700 Just love him.

00:37:31.880 He's willing to say whatever's on his mind.

00:37:34.620 Glenn Beck.

00:37:37.320 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:37:56.120 All right.

00:37:57.500 Steve Dace from Iowa.

00:38:00.040 And from the Steve Dace program, which can be heard on this network every day, right after my show on the Blaze Radio Network and TV Network.

00:38:12.040 Steve, welcome.

00:38:14.200 Gentlemen, Happy New Year.

00:38:15.480 I'm just patiently waiting for those articles of impeachment to be filed.

00:38:18.660 How are you?

00:38:19.120 Oh, just, it's electric, isn't it?

00:38:22.360 I mean, it's just electric.

00:38:24.440 It's almost like they've forgotten about them.

00:38:27.060 You know, the Democrats are now just on, right on to something else.

00:38:30.460 Oh my gosh, I ran.

00:38:31.680 That's why he should be out of here.

00:38:34.460 Indeed. 0.93

00:38:35.060 2018 ended with Trump's a Nazi, so give him all your guns. 0.94

00:38:38.180 And 2019 ended with Trump is an existential clear and present danger to our democracy. 0.99

00:38:43.200 So let's sit on these articles of impeachment for three damn weeks. 0.99

00:38:46.660 This is crazy. 0.99

00:38:47.880 Just crazy.

00:38:49.060 Okay, Steve, let's talk about Iowa and what's happening with the Democratic Party.

00:38:54.060 I want to play a clip from Joe Biden.

00:38:57.460 And listen to this.

00:38:58.260 He sounds like my grandpa did right before he passed away, where he's not really fully engaged here.

00:39:05.260 Listen to this.

00:39:05.860 Listen to this.

00:39:35.860 Okay, stop.

00:39:37.060 Is it just me, or does he sound a little unexcited?

00:39:46.940 Let's put it that way.

00:39:48.860 Well, I thought Robert Stack's voiced character in Beavis and Butthead to America actually did the most intrusive inspections in human history.

00:39:57.260 But that aside, you know, what you're pointing out, Glenn, is what I have been saying on my show for the last couple of months.

00:40:04.120 And I'm not trying to be hot takey, so I got that hot take out of the way, and I want to be really serious.

00:40:11.340 He sounds like the average guy who's 80 years old.

00:40:13.980 He does.

00:40:14.480 And has lived a long life and has done a lot in his life and been in a lot of high-stress situations.

00:40:20.120 I don't think he can do the job, and I think that if he were leading a rival investment group to take over a Fortune 500 publicly traded company, and you were in the other investment group, I think you could at least get a hearing in front of a judge about his competency level of whether he's legally competent or not.

00:40:37.760 And I think that's why he has not taken off in this race. 0.97

00:40:44.040 And if you live here in Iowa, you see two Joe Bidens.

00:40:47.080 You see the one in the ads.

00:40:48.520 He's running a great ad right now, again, looking at it from a Democratic mindset.

00:40:52.540 He's running a great ad right now, and he sounds presidential about how terrible Trump is.

00:40:56.800 And if I only listened to that ad and I was a rural Iowan who remembered him with Barack Obama for eight years, that's the guy I would vote for.

00:41:05.280 But if I went out there on the campaign trail and actually saw him without the makeup and without the script and just interacted with him retail style, I would walk away shaking my head thinking, I don't know that this guy can be president.

00:41:16.220 And I think that's why, you know, when he first burst onto the scene last March, he had, you know, poll numbers on the national level into the 40s.

00:41:24.400 We've never seen anything like this, really, maybe since Fred Thompson was your flavor of the month 10 years ago.

00:41:29.560 And then the more and more voters in Iowa and New Hampshire have gotten a chance to look at him.

00:41:34.040 You've seen his numbers on the state level have flatlined compared to just the national name ID contest.

00:41:39.480 And it's because when you look at him up close, you just don't think he's up to the job.

00:41:43.540 But he still is number one.

00:41:45.640 Is he going to take Iowa, do you think?

00:41:48.700 I don't believe he'll win Iowa.

00:41:50.680 And I think, you know, national polling in these primaries is irrelevant.

00:41:55.100 And here's why.

00:41:56.040 It doesn't matter what anybody in New York's opinion or California or Montana or New Mexico's opinion is.

00:42:02.040 They're not voting right now.

00:42:03.200 And by the time the process gets to them, a lot of these candidates are going to be gone.

00:42:06.860 And a lot of candidates are gone already.

00:42:08.800 So it really only matters right now what Iowa, New Hampshire, and then Nevada and South Carolina think.

00:42:13.720 All right.

00:42:14.260 So what is happening in Iowa?

00:42:16.320 What's happening in Iowa is, you know, Democrats have lanes just like Republicans do with evangelicals and libertarians and the Bush wing.

00:42:24.180 Well, there's wings in the Democratic and, you know, Ted Cruz used to call them lanes.

00:42:27.640 There's there's lanes in the Democratic Party as well.

00:42:30.040 And the problem they're having is no one is able to break out of their native lane to consolidate support.

00:42:36.580 And so what we have now is you have Pete Buttigieg.

00:42:39.060 He is the candidate of the white suburbanites who desperately want a virtue signal to the leftists who hate them, who, you know, drive a Subaru, live in a cul-de-sac with a coexist bumper sticker.

00:42:49.640 And they love Pete Buttigieg because they're anxious to show you they're not a homophobe.

00:42:53.700 They've not looked at his qualifications.

00:42:56.240 That's his only qualification to them.

00:42:58.020 And then you have the college campus feminist hard left crowd loves Elizabeth Warren. 1.00

00:43:04.880 And then you have, you know, your old school Democratic, you know, traditional labor, socially moderate by today's standards anyway, Democratic Party that likes Joe Biden.

00:43:15.360 And these and you've got these candidates now.

00:43:17.380 And Bernie Sanders is in there.

00:43:18.920 He's got his own base.

00:43:20.240 You know, he's sort of the Ron Paul of the Democratic Party has his own insurgency base.

00:43:25.220 And he's eating into some of Elizabeth Warren's a little bit as well.

00:43:28.280 But these four right now, it is very fluid.

00:43:31.660 Impeachment has chloroformed the room.

00:43:34.120 It's like if you open the door, you would realize it's a zero it's a zero oxygen room.

00:43:38.720 I couldn't breathe in here.

00:43:39.920 It's made everything stale.

00:43:42.480 So I would take all polling numbers and everything else.

00:43:45.280 And I would not listen to any of that until about a week from now.

00:43:49.400 I will tell you that, you know, the Bloomberg Register Iowa poll has been pretty good over the years.

00:43:54.780 That's Ann Seltzer's group. 0.99

00:43:56.280 I think she's actually with CNN now.

00:43:57.680 They actually called me yesterday.

00:43:59.160 So I'm worried about how tight their turnout numbers are if they're calling me for a Democratic poll.

00:44:05.080 OK, but I would I would wait and see what their numbers show.

00:44:08.980 And then I would wait for this last debate before the caucuses.

00:44:12.940 And I could just throw in one more thing, too.

00:44:14.580 This is this is I mean, February 3rd.

00:44:16.880 We don't know what the weather is going to be like.

00:44:18.480 So let's say there's a massive ice storm and rural Iowans can't get to their caucus site.

00:44:22.700 But a bunch of campus feminists can just walk across the quad at Iowa, Iowa State, Grinnell, et cetera. 1.00

00:44:27.860 That could make a huge difference where this is concerned.

00:44:30.940 And then, Glenn, something your audience needs to know is the way that the Iowa caucuses are structured in the Democratic side is different than in the Republican side.

00:44:39.020 You know, you're not going to get four or five, six candidates with two percent on the Democratic side.

00:44:42.900 They're going to have a straw poll for relevancy right away.

00:44:45.740 And they get in that room, you know, 10 years ago in the 08 caucuses when it was open on both ends.

00:44:50.320 My caucus site, we shared a site with the Democrats in the hall over us.

00:44:55.600 We could not hear ourselves think it was like a labor rally.

00:44:58.300 And so they get into that room and the emotion and the and the ethos begins and the id starts to flow.

00:45:04.120 And there's wide swings of opinions and college girls start bringing their their moms and grandmas and say, don't you want to vote for Elizabeth Warren? 0.75

00:45:11.620 I think, you know, that creates a very fluid environment.

00:45:15.600 I do think we know who the top four are going to be.

00:45:18.300 I think, though, knowing the order is tough.

00:45:20.800 And keep in mind, not since nineteen nineteen nineteen eighty eight was the last time there was a contested Democratic caucus that the winner of the Iowa caucuses did not win the nomination.

00:45:30.980 So anyone who tells you Iowa doesn't matter, just doesn't know history or they're just not telling you the truth.

00:45:38.240 So what are the Iowans waiting for?

00:45:41.540 What are they looking for that would be game changing in the next couple of weeks?

00:45:47.400 This is really all about there's one issue that is paramount.

00:45:50.260 Who can defeat Donald Trump?

00:45:51.420 The problem is, while that you would think and we've seen if you've seen this in the Republican Party in the past, well, we anybody but Obama.

00:45:58.320 But the problem is there's not an agreement on what that looks like.

00:46:01.440 Does a technocrat who doesn't address divisive issues and gives you a reassuring persona like a Mitt Romney, does that beat Barack Obama?

00:46:09.860 Does putting Mitt Romney or Barack Obama on a national stage to have a worldview clash like a Rick Santorum or a Newt Gingrich, does that do it?

00:46:17.360 And so there's the same arguments happening in the Democratic side.

00:46:20.280 I know it sounds nuts to us, but if you follow their media and their Twitter, they think the reason they're losing to him is they're not nasty enough and they don't lie as much.

00:46:30.120 And so there's that there's that debate that is.

00:46:33.080 And I know Stu follows that, so I'm sure he can verify that for me.

00:46:35.900 So there's that whole debate.

00:46:37.300 And then there's the debate of we need a mainstream American source.

00:46:41.260 All right. And so, you know, there's that that's that's actually what Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg are both running for that.

00:46:47.040 Pete Buttigieg never, ever mentions homosexuality in his ads here.

00:46:51.340 He doesn't come across as any kind of activist, no effeminacy or anything of that nature.

00:46:57.120 He talks about being a soldier, a mayor of a small town in a red state.

00:47:01.160 And so he is he is he is kind of eaten into some of Joe Biden's support with that crowd as well.

00:47:07.180 Do you think that there are a couple of narratives that come out of this, at least in the political media, is one, the caucus sort of situation you talked about earlier,

00:47:15.800 that's raucous and really, you know, has passionate supporters is a big indicator of potential upside for Bernie Sanders and that you get into the room where it looks like Warren's finishing third or fourth.

00:47:27.500 And those Sanders people are going to bring the Warren people over to Sanders at the last minute.

00:47:31.840 And that, you know, with his fundraising numbers, he's doing well in New Hampshire is a good poll for him today that I mean, there is a path here for Bernie Sanders to be the nominee.

00:47:40.340 Do you buy into that?

00:47:40.980 I do. And I didn't a few months ago. I know it sounds morbid, but we started off talking about Joe Biden's competency.

00:47:48.780 So let's just go ahead and, you know, and round third while we're at it here.

00:47:52.020 But his candidacy has taken off since his heart attack. He was dead in the water.

00:47:56.180 He was polling single digits in Iowa, single digits nationally.

00:48:00.320 He was behind Elizabeth Warren in New Hampshire.

00:48:02.720 His heart attack has, if you go back and look at where his metrics were pre that event to where they have been since, there's no question that that has been a galvanizing moment.

00:48:14.740 So you have to ask yourself, what the hell is wrong with people?

00:48:19.160 I mean, a heart attack in an old guy, Ronald Reagan even.

00:48:23.780 I mean, that is not good news for somebody who's walking into a very high stress job.

00:48:31.540 No, but I think it I think for his base, it sort of coalesced them that, hey, we've got a window of opportunity to go full Soviet.

00:48:39.680 We can't lose this. That was number one.

00:48:41.900 And then and then and then number two is Elizabeth Warren made the mistake of being honest.

00:48:47.760 Well, as honest as she was willing to be.

00:48:49.800 I know she was the clear front runner. 0.88

00:48:51.340 She was getting challenged.

00:48:52.420 Hey, show your work on your Medicare for all plan.

00:48:54.780 And like the true Wellesley College for Women dean of faculty she's always wanted to be, she thought, you bet, I'll put this all in a white paper and convince you that my one size fits all plan that you hated about Obamacare, supersizing it, you'll like it even more.

00:49:08.940 And and even though it's what a lot of Democrats believe, it was a politically amateurish move.

00:49:13.860 And I think it made a lot of people that thought, hey, maybe she could beat Trump think if she's going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe at the first if she's going to answer the first booty political booty call here, then she can't lie well enough to do this gig. 1.00

00:49:27.440 She's just she's just too much of a true believer.

00:49:30.260 And I think that has that crushed her numbers because she had really eaten into a lot of Sanders numbers.

00:49:35.160 She was kind of his softer side of Sears.

00:49:37.520 And when she showed that she could not match up politically with with what they thought was going to be necessary to win, she's imploded.

00:49:45.440 Bernie has risen. And then you've now you've got Buttigieg and Biden fighting to be this more mainline candidate.

00:49:52.740 You've got this Amy Klobuchar who from Minnesota is a neighboring state who's not going to win here. 1.00

00:49:58.180 But if you get into that room and Elizabeth Warren or and or Bernie Sanders of support is eaten up by the other, she could maybe surprise and finish in the top three.

00:50:05.900 She would only be taking votes away from Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden.

00:50:09.860 So that's why I think this thing is very, very fluid.

00:50:12.380 And I would caution anybody to make any dramatic pronouncements here until we get another week.

00:50:17.580 With that being said, dramatic pronouncement, I would like if it were held today, not not in a couple of weeks, but today.

00:50:26.260 What would you say the landscape is?

00:50:29.280 If it were held today, it's going to be 50 degrees in Iowa today and it's beautiful weather.

00:50:33.980 If it would be held today, we'd break a turnout record.

00:50:36.900 That'd be the highest voted in Iowa caucuses of all time by either party.

00:50:41.000 And then I think it would really just come down to when we get in the room, can Bernie Sanders and or Elizabeth Warren supporters, you know, whether it's the Soviet id versus the feminist id, what wins out there?

00:50:54.400 And that's, you know, that's that's a little bit like, you know, asking me to forecast an apocalyptic event I hopefully don't want to be around here for.

00:51:01.720 So I don't know the answer to that, but it would come down to if one of those two in the rooms across Iowa can can absorb the other support.

00:51:10.600 If they can, one of those two would win.

00:51:12.460 If not, then I think Pete Buttigieg would win.

00:51:14.900 But I don't think it would be an impressive win for anybody right now.

00:51:18.760 I think it's still very fluid.

00:51:20.440 Steve, thank you so much.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 06, 2020

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