The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Kevin Freeman, Peter Schweizer & Phil Robertson ｜ 5⧸16⧸19

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00:00:08.900 Except when it's like Sophie's Choice.

00:00:11.500 As I'm looking at each of the interviews, I'm like, oh yeah, that was really good.

00:00:15.120 But this one is really good.

00:00:16.700 So this is one volume of about nine interviews that we've done in the last six months from the podcast that you just don't want to miss.

00:00:26.540 Yeah, and if you're a subscriber to this podcast, which you likely are if you're hearing our voice right now, these are the things that pop up on Saturdays.

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00:00:53.440 Totally different.

00:00:54.040 I just did one for this weekend and the guest said, Glenn, nobody gives this.

00:01:02.380 Nobody does 90 minutes of just non-confrontational, really deep intellectual conversation.

00:01:11.120 And it's true. 0.56

00:01:12.580 It's usually somebody I don't necessarily agree with and they're powerful.

00:01:17.960 So this today highlights of.

00:01:26.660 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:30.680 With the summer travel season almost here, I thought it was the perfect time to catch up on the Glenn Beck podcast episodes that you might have missed.

00:01:41.840 They come out every Saturday.

00:01:43.680 In recent months, I've had dozens of wide ranging, long form conversations with people on the front lines of culture, politics, education and technology.

00:01:53.700 I'm going to share portions of some of these vital conversations today, but you can find much more and the full conversations at glennbeck.com or wherever you download your podcasts.

00:02:04.780 First, I want to jump into my conversation with financial expert and host of the Blaze TV's economic war room, Kevin Freeman.

00:02:11.780 We are now entering a time where there is an economic war on speech, on religion, on guns.

00:02:22.660 And when I brought this up three years ago and said, this is how they're going to fight guns.

00:02:29.080 They're going to fight it economically.

00:02:30.600 They're going to go through the banks.

00:02:32.160 Right.

00:02:32.600 Don't worry about the Constitution.

00:02:34.320 They'll go through the banks.

00:02:35.300 They're doing that now with guns and speech and everything.

00:02:40.900 They'll go through amendments three, four, five, six, but they're going after the Bill of Rights.

00:02:45.560 They are.

00:02:46.240 They are for control.

00:02:47.240 And so to your point on guns, there was something called Operation Chokepoint.

00:02:52.640 And recently, American Banker Magazine, representing the American Banker Association, admitted, yes, Operation Chokepoint was real.

00:03:00.240 The FDIC really was encouraging banks to close accounts of gun sellers.

00:03:06.440 It was illegal.

00:03:07.720 And we have 900 pages of testimony that proved that it was illegal.

00:03:12.100 So this.

00:03:12.660 When did that happen?

00:03:13.740 When the American Banker Association say or when did that?

00:03:16.780 When was Chokepoint?

00:03:18.120 Chokepoint was under the Obama administration.

00:03:20.000 And they literally, through the FDIC, they were encouraging.

00:03:24.980 All right.

00:03:25.380 So you're a bank and you work with the FDIC.

00:03:27.980 You just want to get through your review as quickly as possible.

00:03:30.860 And the FDIC says, by the way, we think that those companies that sell guns are a little shady.

00:03:37.840 It's going to make it a little harder for us to do the review if you're doing business with them.

00:03:41.340 If you want to just stop doing business and close the accounts, you can do that.

00:03:46.600 And so banks did.

00:03:47.820 If you don't have a gun seller, if you don't have the ability to buy a gun from a reputable licensed dealer following the Second Amendment rights, how do you how do you get a weapon legally?

00:04:01.000 Well, you get it through a private transaction, which they're trying to ban.

00:04:04.460 You get it through a gun show, which they're trying to ban.

00:04:07.180 So this was a methodology and it was purposed.

00:04:09.700 And it was said in the American Banker article, it said they were doing it based on their partisan beliefs or based on their predetermined their what they thought was right and wrong, their moral beliefs.

00:04:21.900 So that's Operation Chokepoint.

00:04:24.740 Now, about a year ago, Andrew Ross Sorkin, who is New York Times columnist.

00:04:30.360 He is also the co-host of Squawk Box on CNBC.

00:04:34.520 Every morning I see him and I see Joe Kernan and Joe Kernan represents the conservative side.

00:04:39.120 And Andrew Ross Sorkin represents the pleasant progressive side.

00:04:43.760 And he's very pleasant about it.

00:04:45.500 And it's always makes good arguments, even though I disagree almost.

00:04:49.180 He wrote an article in New York Times that said government will not be able to solve the gun problem because we have this pesky Second Amendment.

00:04:56.360 But you banks can do it.

00:04:58.520 PayPal, you can do it.

00:05:00.140 All of the finance companies have more power than government.

00:05:03.040 And he's openly encouraged them to start canceling the PayPal accounts, the bank accounts and so forth.

00:05:09.460 And it's not just with guns.

00:05:11.380 They're now doing it to people in my business.

00:05:15.500 They are silencing us one by one.

00:05:19.480 And.

00:05:21.220 People are not seeing it.

00:05:24.020 You had Robert Spencer on podcast here, didn't you?

00:05:26.640 Yeah, he was targeted.

00:05:27.960 I know he was.

00:05:28.980 He was targeted.

00:05:29.640 It's not, you know, it's Alec Jones and Robert Spencer.

00:05:32.160 And they're going systematically across anyone who's speaking something contrary to what we find or deem acceptable.

00:05:38.680 And you wonder, why are these people?

00:05:41.020 Why aren't they on the air?

00:05:42.100 Why aren't you know, why are they being silenced?

00:05:44.120 Well, they aren't able to earn a living.

00:05:47.060 They can't even get a bank account.

00:05:48.620 Well, we just saw a few weeks ago that the paperwork has now come out.

00:05:58.020 And so now we actually know the numbers.

00:06:00.600 But when we were saying Facebook is crushing conservatives, the algorithm was changed and it changed the traffic by 70 percent to conservative websites.

00:06:12.260 I mean, we're we're you know, when the Germans rounded up the Jews, they put them in ghettos and live your Jewish life.

00:06:22.300 You can do whatever you want. 0.86

00:06:23.340 We're building a wall around you.

00:06:25.020 Well, nobody saw them.

00:06:26.540 Nobody heard them.

00:06:29.000 No matter how loud they shouted, it just went into a brick wall around there and then they could liquidate them.

00:06:34.760 Aren't we doing that virtually?

00:06:39.040 We are.

00:06:39.640 And we cover a lot of this in the economic war room.

00:06:43.500 So by controlling and silencing people or changing the algorithms or the search results output.

00:06:51.580 I think it's Dr. Robert Epstein.

00:06:53.640 He was published in USA Today.

00:06:55.020 He said, I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter.

00:06:57.520 I'm still supporter today.

00:06:59.220 But here's the fact, the page results produced by Google had the potential to swing the election, probably move independence by 10 points, which means that had they not done that, I wonder what President Trump might have won by.

00:07:14.640 I think that there are a lot of people who didn't vote for President Trump, but they voted against Hillary Clinton.

00:07:20.840 And when you do surveys of Christians throughout the South and you're asking, why did you vote for this guy? 0.83

00:07:26.580 Because he's got this bad history here and he's with this this porn star and all this. 0.80

00:07:31.240 Why did you vote for him? 0.98

00:07:32.320 They always say, because she hates us. 0.98

00:07:34.920 And everybody knew who the she hates us was. 1.00

00:07:37.880 But they were silencing free speech, manipulating elections, and they're doing it with search results.

00:07:43.800 And that is a silencing of free speech.

00:07:46.640 And in my mind, it's election fraud.

00:07:49.560 It's nudge.

00:07:51.320 It's nudge.

00:07:52.400 It's what Cass Sunstein talked about.

00:07:55.480 All you have to do is just nudge people.

00:07:58.980 Just alter the search results just a little bit here and a little bit there.

00:08:04.200 And all of a sudden, you're on a different path.

00:08:07.420 And that's what we're...

00:08:09.180 That's when you talked about before, don't we kind of commonly agree?

00:08:14.240 And you said, don't we kind of...

00:08:15.300 I think we commonly do, but they've been nudged more than maybe we've been nudged.

00:08:19.560 And so there are people that may not be that far from us, but they've been nudged.

00:08:24.200 And that dividing wall has been built between us.

00:08:26.200 When we look at the issue with guns, we see what's happening here.

00:08:32.880 And people tend to forget Venezuelans had guns up until 2012.

00:08:37.160 They took the guns from the citizens in 2012.

00:08:41.040 That's when you can get away with literally murder.

00:08:45.680 As we record this, Maduro is still in.

00:08:53.320 He had just taken Jorge Ramos as a reporter and held him captive.

00:09:04.420 Reports are showing that things are getting much, much worse there.

00:09:08.220 Russia is now saying we're going to go to war in Venezuela.

00:09:12.960 America is going to go to war in Venezuela.

00:09:17.220 Nobody is reporting the fact that Chinese have a warship off the coast of Venezuela, right next to ours.

00:09:25.940 What's happening in Venezuela, do you think?

00:09:28.580 Well, we've sent in aid, right?

00:09:30.100 And the Western nations have sent in aid, and they shot people trying to get it.

00:09:35.400 We're seeing the natural result of a true socialist revolution.

00:09:41.680 It looks good for a while, and everybody celebrated, and you had Michael Moore, and everybody came out and said, look at how good this is.

00:09:48.960 And then you run out of other people's money.

00:09:52.080 They nationalized stuff.

00:09:53.840 They ran out.

00:09:54.520 I mean, it's the natural outcome of a socialist revolution.

00:09:57.480 It has to always go to dictatorship, and it ends with the haves and the have-nots, the worst of which is where you have Hugo Chavez's daughter sporting around the world with $3 or $4 billion.

00:10:11.460 How does a communist dictator's daughter inherit $3 to $4 billion? 0.99

00:10:15.380 How does a bus driver?

00:10:16.920 A bus driver, that's what people loved about Maduro.

00:10:19.760 He was one of the people.

00:10:20.720 He was a bus driver.

00:10:21.560 He wasn't rich.

00:10:22.720 Now look at him.

00:10:23.980 Now look at him.

00:10:24.800 They're flying bricks of gold that he claims are his out of the country.

00:10:36.420 What happens?

00:10:38.100 Well, let's start here.

00:10:40.640 The president wanted to build a wall, says it's a national emergency.

00:10:43.940 It's no more of a national emergency today than it was 10 years ago.

00:10:51.420 However, I think on the horizon, I don't know, are you following what's happening in Mexico with the oil pipelines and how they shut it down and now gas lines are everywhere?

00:11:03.020 Where they shut down the pipeline and said, we're going to start trucking everything.

00:11:07.940 Trucking isn't, it's not effective, at least the way, you know, going back to that.

00:11:14.500 That's why they built that pipeline.

00:11:15.880 Yeah, it's a terribly inefficient way to move.

00:11:17.800 Horrible.

00:11:18.360 It's horrible.

00:11:18.960 And there's a shortage of truck drivers in the West anyway.

00:11:21.580 So you've got all these problems down in Mexico just from that one thing.

00:11:27.400 You have a president who will not recognize anyone but Maduro.

00:11:35.820 He's one of the few of Western countries that won't recognize him outside of Cuba.

00:11:42.500 If he is instituting the policies that, you know, Chavez or Maduro were, it's already a thugocracy.

00:11:57.080 Is it that hard for people to think maybe we would have a huge Colombian-style crisis on our hands, on our border?

00:12:05.900 You know, this is as they're on the precipice of potential economic greatness as a nation because the Mexican people are phenomenal, smart, hardworking people.

00:12:16.800 And China is collapsing as the low-cost producer.

00:12:21.040 We have an agreement with Mexico.

00:12:23.240 They could be the next producer, manufacturer or whatever for the United States, the wages and so forth.

00:12:29.740 They're on the precipice of this, and yet they have, from the thugocracy, from the drug cartel control, from the fact that we don't have a wall and we have porous and open borders.

00:12:42.520 I mean, if we had a wall, Mexico would benefit because the drug cartels wouldn't get the massive amounts of money.

00:12:48.800 They're on the precipice of something really great if they could get their act together.

00:12:53.240 That's the, I mean, that's where we are at so many areas of life.

00:12:58.200 So many.

00:12:58.640 Is that it could be really great or really terrible.

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00:13:24.500 Here's a piece of my conversation with Peter Swiser.

00:13:26.940 I did a show recently on the difference between disinformation and misinformation.

00:13:35.140 Fascinating topic.

00:13:36.280 Right.

00:13:36.660 Yeah.

00:13:37.380 Can you explain the difference between the two?

00:13:39.300 I mean, one is, one, the disinformation is when it is planted into what you think is a credible source.

00:13:49.960 Right.

00:13:50.260 If it comes from Pravda, you're like, oh, it's Pravda.

00:13:53.860 Right.

00:13:54.180 But if it comes from the New York Times, then it's disinformation.

00:14:01.320 In a way, Google is engaged and Facebook, knowingly or not, in a disinformation campaign.

00:14:12.400 Yes, I think that you could certainly classify that.

00:14:16.360 And I think the issue becomes, why are they doing this and how are they doing this?

00:14:22.280 You asked earlier about Zuckerberg and your interaction with him.

00:14:25.820 I don't know that Mark Zuckerberg, I'm not suggesting that Mark Zuckerberg is sitting around saying, how can we deal with conservatives on Facebook?

00:14:33.000 I don't think so either.

00:14:33.640 But the problem is, there are lots of people employed by Facebook who, maybe they're in their mid-20s.

00:14:41.080 Maybe they were woke on campus and they are now involved in the news feed.

00:14:47.240 I mean, we had a Facebook employee who was involved with their trending section that came out a couple of years ago who said, oh, yeah, we sunk conservative stories and we boosted liberal stories.

00:14:57.940 So I don't think it's a question of the executives of these companies, you know, in kind of a James Bond villain moment saying, here's how we're going to rule the universe.

00:15:09.440 I think it's a question of they've created these powerful companies and they've created a culture within these companies that for all the talk of tolerance is actually very intolerant.

00:15:20.560 And it reflects in the product that they are producing.

00:15:23.540 So did you, did you touch on it all, I have a document from a meeting with Media Matters on Inauguration Day.

00:15:35.400 It was a meeting that happened with far left donors with Media Matters on the election day in Florida, not on election day, on Inauguration Day.

00:15:45.580 And they said, here's where we went wrong.

00:15:49.360 And here's what we're going to do.

00:15:51.040 And it talks in that, in that document about how they are going to go to Facebook and Google and they are going to advise.

00:16:04.440 Right.

00:16:04.840 Okay.

00:16:05.140 And in that document, it says, we have already been given access to all of the raw data in real time.

00:16:17.900 Yeah.

00:16:18.460 Peter, I don't think they'd give that to me or any organization that I know of.

00:16:25.760 No, they would not.

00:16:27.000 They would not.

00:16:27.560 And this, and this is the problem.

00:16:28.940 I mean, the problem is the way that they are trying to deal with this is they're like, you know, we're being criticized by conservatives.

00:16:35.460 So we'll go meet with conservatives.

00:16:37.100 I'm not saying that's a bad thing, by the way.

00:16:39.200 I think that's a good thing, but that's not really the issue.

00:16:42.860 The issue is not, you know, saying nice words.

00:16:45.640 The fundamental issue comes down to, you know, what is this company doing?

00:16:50.060 And the whole debate now that's arisen about fake news, I think, is a huge problem because it's allowing essentially these liberal groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and Media Matters to essentially say to Facebook and Google, no, no, no.

00:17:05.580 We want you to engage in more censorship.

00:17:08.440 We want you to classify.

00:17:09.060 And the Facebook could respond well, but we have others.

00:17:14.580 We have, I don't remember if it's Heritage Foundation, but we have others that are doing it on the right.

00:17:19.980 I don't want either side.

00:17:22.100 That's exactly right.

00:17:22.660 I don't want either side shut up.

00:17:24.220 Yeah.

00:17:24.500 It's the problem that develops is that nasty word cronyism.

00:17:29.060 And cronyism is a problem where you give concentrated power or you give special access or favors to certain people, and invariably it's going to be misused.

00:17:39.520 And this is really the question, I guess, Glenn, is does Facebook and does Google so much distrust the American people that they believe the American people are incapable of looking at a news story and saying, that's totally yes.

00:17:56.740 I'm not buying that.

00:17:58.360 And they don't.

00:17:59.760 They don't have confidence in the American people to do that.

00:18:02.540 They feel like they have to somehow be the arbitrators, and they don't.

00:18:08.420 So here's, let's be clear.

00:18:11.060 Just a new study came out.

00:18:13.580 Goldfish, goldfish have an attention span of nine seconds.

00:18:20.780 Americans have seven seconds. 0.97

00:18:23.920 Okay, so let's be very clear.

00:18:28.060 We're not doing our job.

00:18:29.780 Right.

00:18:29.980 Okay.

00:18:30.360 Right.

00:18:30.920 And that has changed dramatically because of Facebook and all of the interaction that we do.

00:18:36.980 Yeah.

00:18:37.240 However, because I was just asked this question, well, don't they have a responsibility?

00:18:44.080 Shouldn't they be?

00:18:45.040 No.

00:18:45.560 They have a responsibility to be transparent and be a platform.

00:18:50.040 Correct.

00:18:50.440 A platform.

00:18:51.120 Correct.

00:18:51.380 I don't believe that you should censor anyone on a platform.

00:18:56.900 Right.

00:18:57.100 It's the battlefield of ideas. 0.85

00:19:00.500 To say that now, what people will say is, well, that's crazy because there's a lot of crazy people. 0.75

00:19:06.920 Yeah, there are. 0.62

00:19:07.840 There are.

00:19:08.520 Yeah.

00:19:08.620 Thomas Jefferson said, believe the people, trust the people.

00:19:13.640 Right.

00:19:14.020 Okay.

00:19:14.640 The key to that sentence was, comma, they will usually get it wrong, but eventually they'll get it right.

00:19:26.180 Right.

00:19:26.560 Right.

00:19:26.880 Exactly.

00:19:27.320 So we're going through this period right now.

00:19:29.840 The worst thing we can do is put a babysitter on top of us forever.

00:19:35.260 Yes.

00:19:35.620 We have to learn.

00:19:37.580 Fire is hot.

00:19:39.540 Yes.

00:19:40.140 No, you're exactly right.

00:19:41.240 And this is further evidence that I think they don't really understand the dynamics at work in the country today.

00:19:49.020 The dynamic at work in the country today is a rejection of sort of this elite view of how society should be organized.

00:19:57.740 It's one of the reasons why you have in financial markets, conservatives, people on the left don't trust the large banks.

00:20:05.520 They don't trust Wall Street.

00:20:06.740 It's a rejection of that.

00:20:08.060 It's the same reason conservatives, liberals, independents have a distrust of Washington, D.C.

00:20:14.540 It's not because they want tax policy to be slightly different.

00:20:17.960 It's they don't fundamentally trust them to reflect their interests and to look out for them.

00:20:23.780 And they also know that elites generally look down upon them.

00:20:27.400 So, you know, that my challenge to Silicon Valley is for all their talk of egalitarianism, for all their talk about we love democracy and everybody having a voice.

00:20:37.920 Do you really?

00:20:39.780 Do you really?

00:20:40.440 I mean, the point is, we all remember as a kid, I grew up outside of Seattle, Washington, and I remember going down to a place called Pioneer Square.

00:20:47.660 You probably went there, too.

00:20:48.940 There were all kinds of people wandering around saying strange things.

00:20:52.780 Well, those people today may have blog sites and they're going to say some crazy stuff.

00:20:58.020 I didn't pay a lot of attention back then.

00:21:00.140 I'm not paying a lot of attention now.

00:21:01.860 And I have enough trust that most people aren't going to pay a lot of attention to them.

00:21:07.220 And that's, I think, what we have to embrace, because otherwise it's we are going to have intellectual policemen that are trying to tell people, here's what you should think.

00:21:17.280 Here's what you should not think.

00:21:18.840 Not only that, but please don't even look in this direction.

00:21:21.760 You can't even look in this direction.

00:21:23.220 If you look in this direction, it might somehow infect you. 0.98

00:21:26.700 It's ridiculous.

00:21:27.360 The battlefield of ideas is such that the best ideas win, and I happen to believe that the ideas of the American founding were the best ideas, and they are going to win.

00:21:37.960 And we ought to be confident in that.

00:21:39.780 And the kind of monitoring and everything else, honestly, goes against almost every single article in the Bill of Rights.

00:21:50.960 That's right.

00:21:51.400 Almost every single one is violated.

00:21:53.680 Now, it's not violated by the government, but it is the same principle, especially the bigger they get.

00:22:03.020 And that, by the way, goes on to what you were saying earlier about Huxley and Orwell.

00:22:07.160 You know, the traditional view is the government was going to use technology to control our lives.

00:22:14.040 It's really corporations now.

00:22:15.700 I've always, you know, I've always, always made fun of, you know, Blade Runner, the corporation.

00:22:23.440 Please shut up about the corporation.

00:22:25.620 It's the government. 0.98

00:22:26.380 No.

00:22:26.960 Right.

00:22:27.540 Right.

00:22:27.700 No.

00:22:28.040 We are now entering the time where the liberal concern about corporations is actually accurate now.

00:22:36.380 Right.

00:22:36.860 You know?

00:22:37.360 Yeah.

00:22:37.540 And it's weird that they're so in love with Apple and Google because these are the guys you've been warning us about.

00:22:44.280 Yeah.

00:22:44.380 You know?

00:22:44.960 Yeah.

00:22:46.000 So let me take you kind of to that Orwell place.

00:22:52.660 But first, explain Gmail is free.

00:22:59.780 Google searches are free.

00:23:01.520 Right.

00:23:01.880 Right.

00:23:02.220 They are free, but they come at a high price.

00:23:05.200 No, I'm not paying anything.

00:23:06.860 Well, you're not paying anything in terms of monetary.

00:23:09.320 That's true.

00:23:09.940 They're free.

00:23:10.640 But the question is, what is going on?

00:23:13.580 Because all these servers, all this capacity is expensive.

00:23:18.200 So what Google is doing is they have a product here.

00:23:21.340 You're not buying it.

00:23:22.260 You are the product.

00:23:23.460 They're selling you.

00:23:24.320 You're selling you.

00:23:25.180 And they're selling all kinds of secrets about you.

00:23:27.440 And Gmail is a perfect example of this.

00:23:29.120 I use Gmail up until I started on this project.

00:23:32.520 And now I don't use Gmail anymore.

00:23:34.480 And what people have to realize about Gmail is they're scanning every email that comes in.

00:23:39.780 They're scanning it.

00:23:40.740 They know what's in it.

00:23:42.200 They are scanning every email that you send out.

00:23:45.620 And if you draft an email, you know, you're upset with your cousin about something.

00:23:51.680 You had a debate over Thanksgiving and you thought they were rude.

00:23:54.700 And you said, you know, Cousin Chris, I think you're rude and you're terrible and you're this and that.

00:23:58.900 And you say, you know what? 0.97

00:23:59.860 That's really kind of nasty.

00:24:01.040 I shouldn't send it.

00:24:02.100 That draft, they're scanning that draft.

00:24:04.340 I want to make it clear.

00:24:05.760 You're not saying the draft that you save and put into drafts.

00:24:09.860 Correct.

00:24:10.260 It's the keystrokes.

00:24:11.700 It's recording the keystrokes.

00:24:13.620 That's correct.

00:24:13.760 Even if you delete all of it, it's still there.

00:24:16.720 Yeah.

00:24:17.220 All right.

00:24:18.420 What's important here is, again, to distinguish when you say they're scanning, it doesn't mean they're reading it.

00:24:26.400 Correct.

00:24:26.760 Okay.

00:24:27.440 And why are they scanning it?

00:24:29.420 Well, they're scanning it because let's say you send an email to your friend.

00:24:34.480 Golly, I'm really tired of work.

00:24:36.160 I'd sure love to be on a beach in Mexico right now.

00:24:38.860 They're scanning it because they're scanning.

00:24:40.760 They're looking for beach in Mexico, and you're going to probably see ads on your Google feed for apartments or condos in Mexico.

00:24:50.900 And lo and behold, the next morning, someday you wake up and they say, Mr. Schweitzer, I've already booked two tickets.

00:25:00.620 That's right.

00:25:01.720 Would you like to go to Mexico today?

00:25:04.340 I know you're tired and you've been thinking about it.

00:25:07.000 Right.

00:25:07.520 That's right.

00:25:08.100 And that's where it's headed.

00:25:09.060 And, again, there are certain amazing conveniences that come with this.

00:25:13.840 I mean, you know, you use Google Maps.

00:25:16.060 There are all sorts of great benefits to that, to Google search.

00:25:19.120 The thing that people have to keep in mind, though, is it's not a one-way street.

00:25:24.780 It's not just these wonderful good things they're doing for you.

00:25:29.060 It's the capacity they are developing to do things to you.

00:25:32.780 So, when I say that they're scanning your Gmails, it's not that there's a person sitting in Silicon Valley saying, oh, look what Glenn just sent in Gmail.

00:25:41.840 Correct.

00:25:42.680 But they have the capacity to do that.

00:25:45.100 Yes.

00:25:45.480 And they have the capacity, if they don't like what you're doing, to shut you off from Gmail.

00:25:50.360 And Dr. Jordan Peterson, we highlight him in the film.

00:25:53.920 That's exactly what happened to him.

00:25:55.860 He's a psychology professor at the University of Toronto.

00:25:58.720 And he took a position against compelled speech where there was a debate in Toronto about an ordinance that would require you to address somebody by their preferred gender.

00:26:09.200 Peterson's position was, I always address people by their preferred gender, but this is compelled speech.

00:26:15.520 You should not force people to do this.

00:26:17.640 He took this public position.

00:26:19.480 The next day, Glenn, he was shut out of his Gmail account.

00:26:22.600 He was shut out of his YouTube account.

00:26:24.520 Everything Google owned was shut down.

00:26:27.560 Now, you would think, why is this going on?

00:26:29.860 And I think probably what happened is somebody connected with Google, maybe mid-level, saw this, you know, is maybe in favor of this policy position and sort of in a juvenile way said, I don't like this guy.

00:26:43.220 We're going to sort of cut him off.

00:26:45.140 But Jordan Peterson lost his Gmail.

00:26:47.520 He lost his Google calendar.

00:26:49.720 The point being, you rely on these products, it's going to give them an enormous capacity over your life.

00:26:57.480 And if they choose to, sometimes in an arbitrary way, they may just shut you out because they don't like a position that you've taken.

00:27:04.920 And the problem is Google does not have a customer service department you can call to say, why did this happen?

00:27:11.040 They have no customer service department.

00:27:12.700 And they make clear, we can choose to do this to you anytime we want.

00:27:19.720 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:27:32.440 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:27:35.480 If you like what you're hearing on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:27:39.940 It's available wherever you download your favorite podcasts.

00:27:43.240 Back before customers at coffee shops got their information from actually talking to a person sitting across the table from them, rather than ignoring them while scrolling through their Twitter mentions, things were a lot simpler.

00:27:57.560 There was wisdom in a good conversation.

00:28:00.220 A friend, a family member, or a pastor was usually the first to be consulted when advice was needed.

00:28:05.540 I thought we needed to get back to a little bit of that.

00:28:08.040 My podcast, available at glennbeck.com or wherever you get your podcasts, is a good mixture of modern-day technology and old-fashioned communication.

00:28:17.420 One-on-one, thoughtful, and practical application that you can actually use.

00:28:23.600 My recent conversation was with Phil Robertson, and it goes right to the heart of this concept.

00:28:29.580 Here's a small portion.

00:28:30.420 As things become more and more insane in our world, I thought of the poster that Churchill put out in the Second World War.

00:28:42.340 Keep calm and carry on.

00:28:45.200 Right now, none of us are keeping calm.

00:28:47.000 We're all freaking out.

00:28:48.480 All we have to do is keep calm and then do the things that you know are right.

00:28:55.100 Just pay no attention to that.

00:28:56.960 Just keep calm and carry on.

00:28:58.860 You're quoting some great scriptures.

00:29:02.160 Look, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, offer your body as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God.

00:29:09.220 Offer your body.

00:29:10.000 That's 24-7.

00:29:11.600 Which is your spiritual worship.

00:29:13.820 Don't conform any longer to the pattern of the world.

00:29:16.480 You just mentioned the pattern of the world.

00:29:18.920 Beck.

00:29:19.840 It's insane.

00:29:20.360 If someone had told me that we would end up by 2020 with the mischief and the sinful, the murder, the murder of their own children, they shoot up churches, concert, you're like, what? 0.92

00:29:39.340 Jesus said, the devil is the father of lies.

00:29:46.560 Just look at the news media and what they keep coming out of their mouth.

00:29:52.820 And you're like, and the scary part is, I think they believe the lie.

00:29:59.880 And it's not just the news media.

00:30:03.320 It's the.

00:30:04.060 Jesus said, the devil is behind the whole thing.

00:30:06.520 Yeah.

00:30:06.860 It's advertising.

00:30:08.420 Think of the lies of to sell somebody a product.

00:30:11.800 I have to tell you, you're not complete without this.

00:30:15.280 That's the biggest lie there is.

00:30:17.800 I know it.

00:30:19.140 That's why I haven't gotten into the cell phone and computer business.

00:30:23.020 I'm on the, I'm on the computer, but I never.

00:30:25.840 Look, there's different gifts.

00:30:28.180 Here's worship.

00:30:29.040 Love must be sincere 24-7.

00:30:32.300 Hate what is evil.

00:30:33.400 Cling to what's good.

00:30:35.140 All the time.

00:30:36.420 24-7.

00:30:37.880 Be devoted to one another and brilliantly love.

00:30:40.540 All the time.

00:30:42.080 Honor one another above yourselves.

00:30:45.740 All the time.

00:30:46.620 Don't be lagging in zeal.

00:30:48.720 Keep your spiritual fervor serving the Lord all the time.

00:30:53.520 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction.

00:30:57.020 My prostate acted up here about two or three weeks ago.

00:30:59.460 You say, did you go down, down on the ground?

00:31:02.940 I asked the Almighty to take it from me.

00:31:05.400 It took about a week or 10 days.

00:31:07.040 I actually went to see a doctor for the first time in 50 years.

00:31:10.820 You say, patient in affliction.

00:31:12.960 The last time I've been in the hospital is when a tick bit me

00:31:15.720 and gave me rabbit fever.

00:31:17.780 You say, you haven't been back to a doctor since.

00:31:21.000 But I went the other day because the old prostate got to acting up.

00:31:24.280 You're like, was it rough?

00:31:25.860 Was it rough?

00:31:26.920 So look, patient in affliction.

00:31:29.200 I weathered it.

00:31:30.320 Faithful in prayer.

00:31:32.060 Share with God's people who are in need.

00:31:35.180 Practice hospitality.

00:31:36.780 Have them over for a meal.

00:31:38.760 Bless those who persecute you.

00:31:40.600 That's why I told you, don't curse them.

00:31:43.780 Bless them.

00:31:44.280 They're all right.

00:31:45.140 Bless and don't curse.

00:31:47.660 Rejoice with those who rejoice.

00:31:49.480 Mourn with those who mourn.

00:31:51.100 Live in harmony with one another.

00:31:52.920 Don't be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.

00:31:57.980 The poor, the downtrodden, the rednecks, whatever. 0.55

00:32:02.380 Don't be conceited.

00:32:03.580 Don't repay anyone evil for evil.

00:32:06.100 This is worship.

00:32:07.220 This is how we worship.

00:32:08.240 Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

00:32:12.440 You're like, be careful to do what is right no matter who's looking.

00:32:18.000 Do what is right.

00:32:19.740 Be careful to do what's right.

00:32:22.220 Heathen or not, do what's right before them.

00:32:24.740 Let them see that.

00:32:26.460 If it's possible, which is amazing, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

00:32:34.840 I live in a redneck neighborhood, you say.

00:32:39.540 You try to live at peace with them.

00:32:41.520 Yeah.

00:32:43.520 They were stealing my fish, the rednecks, back when I was fishing to survive before the duck call took off. 0.98

00:32:52.140 I had a lot of nets in the river, hoop nets.

00:32:54.600 Catfish go in them.

00:32:56.240 Buffalo.

00:32:56.860 Buffalo, you get 30 cents a pound.

00:32:58.740 Catfish, you get 70.

00:33:00.860 I had all these nets out.

00:33:02.120 I had floats on them.

00:33:02.920 You could see them.

00:33:05.640 Everyone around there knew they were my nets.

00:33:08.940 I would notice that I'd hear an outboard when I trained myself to go down there right quick and looking through the bushes.

00:33:16.660 And I'm looking over there.

00:33:18.480 And every once in a while, some of these guys would pull up on one of those floats.

00:33:23.520 And they'd start coming up with it.

00:33:25.120 They're going to steal my fish.

00:33:26.320 What I did at first, I was young in the faith, I took a shotgun with buckshot, and I tore out there, and I would threaten them, scare the daylights out of them.

00:33:40.640 What are you doing stealing from me?

00:33:43.020 But they kept stealing.

00:33:44.280 I'd run that bunch off, and three weeks later, there's another bunch.

00:33:49.980 I read this text, that's where I'm reading now.

00:33:55.160 Don't take revenge, my friends.

00:33:58.580 Leave room for God's wrath. 1.00

00:34:00.060 It's written.

00:34:00.660 It's mine to avenge.

00:34:01.760 I will repay, says the Lord.

00:34:03.280 On the contrary, if your enemy's hungry, feed him.

00:34:06.420 If he's thirsty, give him something to drink.

00:34:09.940 I said, young in the faith, I said, that won't work.

00:34:16.080 These rednecks, if I'm good to them, if I give them what they're trying to steal, you're telling me, Lord, they'll quit stealing? 1.00

00:34:26.540 I said, that won't work, but it occurred to me, Beck, I said, how would I know?

00:34:32.700 I've never tried it.

00:34:34.080 I'm just trying to spook them, and these are dangerous people anyway.

00:34:39.900 Of course, you're in the South.

00:34:41.960 You eat Yankees. 0.91

00:34:43.240 Yeah.

00:34:43.880 So I said, well, I'm going to try that, Lord.

00:34:49.880 I'm going to test you right here on this.

00:34:52.120 So the next bunch I catch, I tear out there with my motor.

00:34:57.440 I have my gun just in case my faith gets a little weak, but it's not in my hands.

00:35:03.400 It's in the bottom of the boat.

00:35:05.160 I pull out there.

00:35:06.680 These guys look around, and they're dropping my net in the river, acting like they were fishing.

00:35:12.520 I said, guys, looks like you've had trouble catching some fish, and you decided to get mine in my nets.

00:35:20.000 I said, good times have come your way.

00:35:24.400 I'm going to give you the fish.

00:35:27.060 And they're looking at me, and the look on their faces, they looked at each other.

00:35:31.880 I said, I'm going to give you what you, I want you to have a fish fry.

00:35:36.340 How many are coming?

00:35:38.220 They said, well, let's see, there was my cousin.

00:35:42.760 And I said, you know, you start frying fish, people have come out of the woodwork.

00:35:46.240 Ken folks, you haven't seen in years.

00:35:47.840 I said, listen, I'm going to keep your boat right there.

00:35:51.900 I said, calm down now.

00:35:53.380 I'm not going to hurt you.

00:35:54.760 I said, I'm going to give you what you were trying.

00:35:56.700 Let's see what you've fixed to catch.

00:35:58.600 Well, I pulled the net up, had a lot of fish in it.

00:36:01.440 I put them in my boat.

00:36:03.080 I put the net back out.

00:36:04.400 I said, bring your boat over here.

00:36:06.300 They said, no, sir, we'll just go on down.

00:36:08.180 I said, come on over here.

00:36:10.440 They were scared of me.

00:36:11.860 So they were thinking, wait a minute, we're stealing from him.

00:36:14.180 And he's given us what we were trying to steal. 0.99

00:36:17.120 He's crazy. 0.63

00:36:18.540 I said, look, they get their boat over. 0.91

00:36:20.600 And I start throwing fish over in their boat.

00:36:23.180 I said, when you think you have enough for the fish fry, you can say, say so.

00:36:28.220 And they told me one time, well, I, you know, I think that'll be enough.

00:36:31.560 I said, no, let me give you a few more.

00:36:34.020 So I threw them some more.

00:36:35.160 I said, now, you have what you wanted to steal.

00:36:38.260 I'm giving you what you were trying to steal.

00:36:41.200 I said, I do this for a living.

00:36:44.300 This is how I make money.

00:36:46.280 I said, I would appreciate it if you didn't steal from me.

00:36:49.120 I said, now, listen, I live, see up on a hill, that house on that hill?

00:36:52.800 Yeah.

00:36:53.380 I said, the next time you want to fish fry, if you can't catch any fish, just come see me,

00:36:58.920 and I'll give them to you.

00:37:01.580 All the way up and down the river for years after that, they all quit stealing from me.

00:37:08.980 What I didn't know was, young in the faith, I appealed to their conscience, if they had one.

00:37:17.040 And I wanted them to say, good night.

00:37:20.440 The guy would give them to us.

00:37:21.820 I mean, the old guy gave us the fish we was trying to steal.

00:37:24.900 Can you believe that?

00:37:26.340 Well, once that goes around in the redneck circles, they say, we shouldn't fool with that old dude. 0.99

00:37:31.120 That's a good old dude.

00:37:33.400 God was right all along.

00:37:34.780 I just never had, I was too weak to see it.

00:37:38.460 So I will tell you, I find, I read the scriptures, and I find answers to everything, everything that you're doing,

00:37:44.820 just like you did with the fish.

00:37:45.980 I find answers everywhere in it.

00:37:47.860 And it's amazing, because every time I try it, it works too.

00:37:54.160 Is there a problem with people of faith in America today?

00:37:59.460 Because they profess they believe it, but then they don't do it.

00:38:06.460 They, you know, the answer is, these are not enemies of yours, they're enemies of mine.

00:38:12.740 I have the right for vengeance.

00:38:15.800 You don't.

00:38:16.860 I am commanding you to love them.

00:38:20.480 Remember, we're not wrestling against flesh and blood.

00:38:24.720 Correct.

00:38:24.920 That's humans.

00:38:25.580 That's not where the battle is.

00:38:26.940 Correct.

00:38:27.160 But we're wrestling with the rulers of this age, the authorities, the evil of darkness, the princes of darkness, the spiritual wickedness.

00:38:38.460 Yeah.

00:38:38.800 Our battle is with the evil one.

00:38:41.140 That's why when I wrote that book, it says the theft of America's soul, I'm putting it on the evil one.

00:38:48.920 The humans are just caught up in it.

00:38:50.980 Correct.

00:38:51.340 But if they're delivered from Satan, they're ready to go.

00:38:55.680 But he's the problem.

00:38:57.260 So where are all the Christians that don't want to, that will say, you know what, I have plenty. 0.92

00:39:08.180 Let me give you my fish.

00:39:09.940 Just don't steal from me.

00:39:11.480 They would say, and I mean this for everybody, but I'm hearing it from Christians, you know, but I know everybody is this way. 0.99

00:39:20.400 They would say, that is weakness.

00:39:23.720 That will show weakness.

00:39:25.080 They're going to steal from you blind if you do that.

00:39:28.460 You can't do that.

00:39:29.640 You've got to show power and you've got to stand up.

00:39:32.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:33.400 Let me show you another thing on where they would do the same thing.

00:39:38.700 Be angry, but sin not.

00:39:42.420 Okay, so someone sins against you and you're angry.

00:39:47.940 You're good.

00:39:50.100 Anger is a healthy emotion.

00:39:52.880 However, vengeance is not.

00:39:55.280 That's right.

00:39:56.300 Be angry, but don't sin.

00:39:58.740 You're like, well, how could I be angry and not sin?

00:40:00.780 Well, if you lash back out verbally, they curse you.

00:40:05.660 You start cursing them and then you have a, and it escalates.

00:40:09.300 So we both are cursing each other.

00:40:11.000 You know, good, you know, two neighbors, one mowing the grass, one on the other side of the fence.

00:40:15.040 And they're sitting there cursing each other.

00:40:17.260 You're like, you can't lash back physically.

00:40:19.440 You're sinning. 0.90

00:40:20.780 You have to keep your mouth shut. 1.00

00:40:22.060 You don't pick up something either and begin to beat them half to death with it or pull out your pistol and shoot them. 0.99

00:40:28.940 Be angry, but don't sin. 0.99

00:40:30.300 Okay, they sinned against you.

00:40:32.280 You don't retaliate verbally.

00:40:34.140 You don't retaliate physically.

00:40:36.440 You just walk away.

00:40:38.860 However, a lot of times when you walk away, you didn't sin, not yet, but you're bitter because they cursed you.

00:40:48.000 You're like, they've still got their talons on you.

00:40:51.420 They're still causing you harm.

00:40:54.400 They're still controlling you because you're bitter about taking the cursing for no reason.

00:41:00.020 You say, well, what's the way out of that mess?

00:41:03.760 What's the strong person to do?

00:41:07.660 Just forgive them.

00:41:10.100 Don't be bitter.

00:41:11.460 Don't lash out verbally.

00:41:12.880 Don't lash out physically.

00:41:14.280 Just forgive them and move on.

00:41:17.320 You say, it looks, who's the stronger person?

00:41:20.580 The one that can't take a cursing without cursing back, that's weak. 0.99

00:41:25.880 You say, pick up something because somebody cursed you and you're going to beat them half to death.

00:41:29.200 You say, that's weak. 0.53

00:41:30.420 You're bitter for the next 20 years over what someone, you're like, they've controlled your life for 20 years.

00:41:37.660 You're still mad about what they did back then.

00:41:39.580 You see it all the time.

00:41:41.800 Or just forgive them and move on.

00:41:44.140 You say, forgive them.

00:41:46.660 That's true.

00:41:47.540 There's the strong person.

00:41:49.400 So we just get it out of whack.

00:41:51.600 I'm talking to Phil Robertson, the granddaddy of Duck Dynasty.

00:42:00.140 Phil breaks it down as only Phil can break it down.

00:42:05.160 So I think forgiveness is the, I think that's the first step.

00:42:10.880 I think the deeper step of it is profound empathy.

00:42:17.420 I know I've been in situations where I've had to forgive and I could forgive.

00:42:21.640 And then I've been in situations that I've prayed a lot about that I knew I was going to have problems with.

00:42:26.680 And my whole heart saw, felt their pain.

00:42:33.660 And all of a sudden, no matter what they said to me, I could just feel how much pain they were in.

00:42:39.080 And it brings you to tears.

00:42:42.540 And that is, that's even more.

00:42:46.220 When you can, to say I forgive you and mean it is hard.

00:42:50.840 Yep.

00:42:51.340 To feel the other pain.

00:42:52.660 Very difficult for human beings.

00:42:54.340 It's very difficult for human beings to get that.

00:42:57.240 That's why the greatest commands of the Bible, love God and love your neighbor, you say.

00:43:01.440 In spite of the mistakes.

00:43:02.960 How many times, Lord, shall we forgive him?

00:43:05.620 Seven?

00:43:06.620 He said, 70 times seven.

00:43:10.320 70 times seven.

00:43:11.540 They're like, 70 times seven.

00:43:14.680 If Glenn Beck and Phil Robertson added up every violation where they broke God's, one of his laws.

00:43:23.080 If we added them all up, you say, there would be probably thousands.

00:43:31.260 That's why Jesus said, you be forgiven to them 70 times seven.

00:43:37.240 Be ready to forgive.

00:43:39.020 Look how many sins I've forgiven of you.

00:43:42.080 So if you look at it like that, you say, whoa, watch this.

00:43:47.540 Leave no debt, remain outstanding.

00:43:50.600 Let no debt remain outstanding.

00:43:53.280 Pay your bills.

00:43:54.580 Except one debt we owe, Beck.

00:43:57.760 The continuing debt to love one another.

00:44:00.520 For he who loves his fellow man, watch how this works, has fulfilled the law with all the don't do this, don't do that, don't lie, don't steal, don't curse, don't.

00:44:13.920 You're like, how do you, how do you fulfill that?

00:44:17.260 Love your neighbor.

00:44:18.520 Watch.

00:44:18.860 The commandments do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be are summed up in this one rule.

00:44:32.220 Love your neighbor as yourself.

00:44:34.740 Love does no harm to its neighbor.

00:44:39.220 Remember, you're like, I don't get up in the morning and say, I got to make sure that I don't steal somebody's, you know, money out of their billfold, or I got to make sure that, you know, that I don't have any evil thoughts, and I got to make sure that, you know, I don't lash out at that.

00:44:55.600 Just love them.

00:44:57.140 Just love them.

00:44:58.960 If you love them, you're certainly not going to shoot them.

00:45:02.280 If you love them, you say, you're not going to be unkind to them.

00:45:06.020 If you love them, you're not going to mess with their woman. 1.00

00:45:09.880 You love them too much.

00:45:12.000 She's your sister.

00:45:13.520 She's a fellow human being.

00:45:15.920 You say, love would take care of every bit of that.

00:45:19.700 But boy, is that a hard lesson.

00:45:21.800 It's a hard one.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 16, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Kevin Freeman, Peter Schweizer & Phil Robertson ｜ 5⧸16⧸19

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