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00:02:53.860 Kevin welcome to the program how are you sir very good you I'm I'm good it's a pleasure to have you

00:03:00.780 on I you know I was just saying I saw an interview that you did in I think it's 2019 when you joined

00:03:07.660 leadership and Swalwell was in his sophomore year the Democrats knew about his relationship with a

00:03:13.940 Chinese spy you were talking about then that's incredible to me that nothing happened nobody

00:03:19.620 i tried i tried to remove him i made a privilege motion and the democrats pelosi he's pelosi's pet

00:03:27.980 you've got to understand to be on intel it's the hardest committee to get on only the leader picks

00:03:33.340 okay on both sides and as a sophomore they're sitting in the minority there's not very many

00:03:38.560 seats she elevates him the fbi then comes and says whoa whoa whoa whoa you've got a problem 0.97

00:03:44.320 He's sleeping with the Chinese spy.

00:03:46.340 She gets the briefing and Bainer, nothing happens.

00:03:51.300 I become leader.

00:03:52.720 I now have the right to the briefing.

00:03:54.480 I find out about it.

00:03:55.460 She takes the briefing with me and I look at her and said, you can't keep them on.

00:03:59.860 You've got to remove, she's now speaker.

00:04:01.740 You've got to put somebody else on and she wouldn't.

00:04:04.500 So I made a motion and she, and she worked against it to keep them.

00:04:08.540 Why?

00:04:12.100 Unbelievable.

00:04:12.540 And then when I became Speaker, I removed him.

00:04:14.820 But why did she keep him?

00:04:18.880 Because he was her protege.

00:04:23.800 She even elevated him to a position inside steering decides where all the committees, who gets what when they fight and all that.

00:04:31.580 She made him Vice Chair so he would do whatever she wanted.

00:04:35.900 Same thing with Shift.

00:04:37.140 they all elevated him to make him something special and protected him i knew about the

00:04:44.740 chinese based upon the fbi and i came forward with that that's why i removed him from intel

00:04:49.560 i didn't know he was drugging women but i was told by democratic congresswomen don't get around 0.88

00:04:56.880 that guy he's creepy right and so that's what people knew she defended him this whole time

00:05:04.280 kept elevating him when um when i removed him from intel committee uh hakeem jeffries become

00:05:13.120 leader he tried to reappoint said wouldn't do it the san francisco chronicle that eventually came

00:05:18.700 out with these stories criticized me for doing that said i was just playing politics think about

00:05:24.880 the number of young women we could have saved had they had they not done things like that that

00:05:30.520 followed his removal so usually stuff happens like this and you put corrupt people in because

00:05:38.140 if you're corrupt you can control them they'll do exactly what you say because you'll say no you are

00:05:45.660 doing that otherwise i destroy you i reveal everything i know is that what was happening

00:05:50.880 this is true that's what i believe because look what happened he didn't jump into the governor's

00:05:56.280 race early you had katie porter in there that was rising then all of a sudden they dropped these

00:06:02.780 videos on her because pelosi and gavin and shift they didn't like katie porter okay so she collapses

00:06:10.780 then all of a sudden swalwell gets into that race and the democratic apparatus shift comes out

00:06:18.640 everybody gets behind him the cta the seiu they start giving him a lot of money but they also

00:06:27.260 put a lot in for a super pack but there is one person in that group that doesn't endorse him

00:06:33.380 nancy pelosi when this comes forward okay right before it all when it first comes out

00:06:40.840 she treats it like joe biden protects joe biden the entire time when people know he's not all

00:06:47.140 mentally there. But the moment the nation finds out, she's the first one to remove him.

00:06:53.320 I believe she knew the other stories because about right when I left, I had a reporter come

00:07:01.540 to me about a young Democratic staffer that had a problem with him. I got her an attorney. She

00:07:09.180 didn't know I was the one who got an attorney for her. So I believe if I heard these stories,

00:07:14.940 Pelosi had to have known. That's why she didn't endorse him for governor when people started

00:07:20.220 really looking into it. And then she went to knock him out once the paper printed it. 1.00

00:07:28.460 So how many people do you think, Kevin, are like this? How much of the stuff? Because

00:07:37.360 we'll see stuff, it's quite obvious something is wrong here. What is the percentage of people

00:07:44.220 like this now i don't want people to say come look there's a lot of good people on both sides

00:07:49.780 of the aisle a lot of people all the way through it's a it's a microcosm of society congresses so

00:07:56.580 you're going to have good and bad now i'm going to be fair i went to um we had a member on the

00:08:03.260 republican side mad gates and i stood up to mad gates he the reason he made the motion um to remove

00:08:09.360 me is because i would not stop the invest ethics investigation against them right and lo and

00:08:15.960 behold i was correct he did sleep with an underage girl now the other concern i have here is on

00:08:22.600 swalwell he has two really close friends one is a senator now gallegos and another is a congressman

00:08:29.100 gomez gallegos was his chairman of his campaign when he ran for president

00:08:34.200 gomez was the chairman of his race for governor they weren't just close they were together all

00:08:41.740 the time the stories i heard about swalwell i'd hear about those two as well how quickly they

00:08:48.540 ran once it got printed and i had some of the democrats come to me and say how ironic that

00:08:54.380 these two are running because they believe they have the exact same problem and they probably

00:09:00.360 thought they had the same kind of protection. They did. If the speaker, if Nancy Pelosi is

00:09:07.020 protecting you in the Democratic caucus, you're golden. If she elevates you because she tells you

00:09:12.880 now you're the vice chair, but this is who I want you to pick in a race to who gets the committee,

00:09:17.720 he did it every time. When Kevin comes after you, I'll get all the Democrats to vote one way and

00:09:22.660 we'll protect you. And then we'll elevate you when we don't like who's running for governor,

00:09:27.080 we want you to run and they put all the political apparatus behind her and then what happens um

00:09:33.920 right after that once the public knows it it just flashbacks to joe biden remember i was the

00:09:40.800 earliest one to come out and said look i met with the president he's not all there they criticized

00:09:46.580 i worked with the wall street journal we had to work for more than six months to make that story

00:09:51.740 come out for the public they all attacked everybody they put all the talk shows morning

00:09:57.720 joe and all that like something is wrong with me and then once he gets on stage for the nations to

00:10:03.360 see it they're the first ones to run from and said he's got to go they knew and been lying to the

00:10:08.920 american public this whole time so one of the cnn came out and they said you know this is just

00:10:15.140 good gumshoe journalism that finally exposed this and i said that it's not i don't even think

00:10:20.960 swalwell is the story i mean it is a story but that's not the story the story is how who did

00:10:28.180 know all these years who did know this stuff was going to know it right it's the cover-up of this

00:10:35.960 yeah and they're letting nancy pelosi oh no i didn't know about it you know what's so

00:10:42.480 egregious to me is

00:10:44.540 something's happening

00:10:46.740 in the Republican group

00:10:48.700 Tony Gonzalez

00:10:50.820 I hope that man get elected

00:10:52.920 he faltered

00:10:54.340 but I was the first one to say he needed

00:10:56.920 to resign before the election

00:10:58.740 not to cover him

00:11:00.380 and then after the election comes out and then people

00:11:02.900 want to. This is a challenge

00:11:04.920 that we have

00:11:05.580 How are we, I mean I'd be

00:11:08.840 remiss in not asking you, how are the Republicans

00:11:11.080 is going to do in the midterms

00:11:13.280 and then post-Trump?

00:11:16.220 Well, right

00:11:17.120 now, I'm very

00:11:18.940 concerned, especially about the

00:11:20.920 House.

00:11:22.840 And there's a couple measurements.

00:11:25.840 Yeah, Virginia.

00:11:27.360 Now,

00:11:28.140 to me, I do not like what's

00:11:30.860 happening in this redistricting, because now

00:11:32.820 we're letting politicians pick their voters

00:11:34.620 instead of the voters pick who they want to represent.

00:11:37.020 I'm opposed to all that.

00:11:39.140 I've put my own money in against

00:11:40.820 california i sent a hundred thousand uh for the virginias we did now one positive thing here

00:11:47.360 when everybody's saying negative we did increase republican vote by three percent from the 24

00:11:54.000 presidential if we were able to do that in election we would be in a much better place

00:11:59.000 but if you look historically whoever wins on the off the election for governor new jersey and

00:12:04.640 virginia if the democrats win both historically they flip the house if republicans win one we

00:12:09.440 flipped the house right but if you look at that delegate races there were eight republicans who

00:12:14.960 were running for re-election in virginia and they were in seats that harris carried in the

00:12:21.500 presidential they all lost there were five republicans running for re-election in those

00:12:26.120 seats that trump carried we lost five of them up to 4.5 percent so that concerns me if you look at

00:12:34.040 the presidential race. President Trump carries all the swing states. He wins the popular vote,

00:12:40.100 which is very big for Republicans, a president, and they lost seats in the House. Four years prior,

00:12:47.700 when we didn't win the presidency, it was the first time since 1994, not one Republican incumbent

00:12:54.000 lost, and we beat 15 Democrats. So how do we win then and lose now? That means President Trump did

00:13:02.400 very well but the party didn't and if you take it a step further in the last 70 races for the senate

00:13:08.380 in the presidential year 69 of the 70 states however they vote for president that party wins

00:13:15.960 but this time president trump won arizona nevada michigan wisconsin but the republicans didn't win

00:13:22.960 those senate seats so they're underperforming and then when i'm watching a high the highest

00:13:28.960 number of retirements kind of in modern history the number of times we're losing discharge

00:13:34.860 petitions in three weeks we lost more discharge petitions than we have in 30 years and you got

00:13:39.820 to understand what that is it's it's a rule that if you get 218 members of either party to sign

00:13:46.760 a discharge petition it's a it's about one bill that bill automatically comes to the floor

00:13:52.560 when you do that you're turning the floor over to the minority in my entire political career in

00:14:00.600 congress only one time did it cut a discharge petition go and the speaker at that time republican

00:14:06.340 speaker wanted it to happen now they just had a discharge petition a bill passed that was offered

00:14:12.900 by one of the aoc crowd unbelievable so that's a bad sign you're not working together and then

00:14:20.960 And when the Democrats shut down the government, you're only given 24 months to have a majority.

00:14:27.620 The Senate stayed in session.

00:14:29.080 The House did not.

00:14:30.420 I know.

00:14:30.700 If I'm in the minority and the House shuts down, the minority is winning because you're not passing.

00:14:36.000 Correct.

00:14:36.420 You're giving up two months of your 24 months.

00:14:39.360 I know.

00:14:39.780 I know.

00:14:40.020 Why wouldn't you be in there passing things every single day?

00:14:43.580 Put the 80-20 issues on the floor.

00:14:46.380 And you know what?

00:14:46.920 Come November, you'd show the Democrats voted against this.

00:14:49.360 So I would show. Go ahead. Democrats voted to keep Swalwell run on that, too.

00:14:55.620 Let me I only have about a minute left. Let me ask you, what am I missing on Thune? Because none of this makes sense on the voter I.D. stuff.

00:15:04.860 Why isn't that going through with as popular it is as it is? What needs to happen?

00:15:08.800 okay so the senate has different roles in the house the house is pure whoever has the

00:15:15.060 the majority i don't like all this republican on a republican fight when we're trying to keep it

00:15:20.920 okay i just out front when i watch others on the outside fighting you got to unite and what i would

00:15:27.700 do thune wants this to pass through what thune has is some members who may not and has some

00:15:34.100 democrats who may not so you need more votes than just republicans otherwise you've got to change

00:15:39.700 the rules that's the decision where you want to go but the save america act it is so popular with

00:15:45.900 republicans and democrats i would i would take it by pieces then okay and i would put each piece

00:15:52.540 one by one okay voter id just put that up and see all who would vote for or not then add the next

00:15:59.940 piece. And then what you can do, you can

00:16:01.820 toggle it all back together after

00:16:03.880 they vote for it. But if you keep it

00:16:05.880 all together, I've watched this on difficult

00:16:07.820 bills, and everybody

00:16:09.800 wants to pick one thing they can't

00:16:11.920 be for. Okay, then let's

00:16:13.860 put it piece by piece and really

00:16:15.960 show the American public and

00:16:17.860 jam it right at you and then

00:16:19.780 piece it back together and show

00:16:21.640 no, it's the way to go. You've got

00:16:23.840 to think outside the box and you've

00:16:25.960 got to put harder pressure. That's

00:16:27.960 the way I would look at it. Kevin?

00:16:29.940 Great to talk to you.

00:16:30.820 Kevin McCarthy, former U.S. House Speaker.

00:16:33.620 Appreciate it, sir.

00:16:34.260 Thank you.

00:16:35.920 Thank you.

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00:17:53.000 Yesterday, the Department of Justice dropped an 11-count indictment charging the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, with wire fraud, bank fraud, false statements, and conspiracy to launder money.

00:18:08.040 These guys, I just want you to know, I do have a horse in this race.

00:18:12.180 I think these guys have been a bane of my existence for a long time.

00:18:15.320 I have warned about them for a very long time.

00:18:17.500 so you know if you want an absolutely neutral view on the southern poverty law center you're

00:18:23.200 gonna have a hard time getting it from me but i'm gonna try to be as fair as i possibly can with

00:18:27.760 these guys they are a tool of the progressive engine and uh and i think so much more so

00:18:33.840 prosecutors say from 2014 through 2023 uh the southern poverty law center quietly siphoned over

00:18:43.600 three million donor dollars off to the top that's your grandma's 20 bucks you know that's George

00:18:49.680 Clooney's pledge straight into the pockets of Klansmen's neo-Nazis Aryan Nation bikers 0.66

00:18:56.560 unite the right planners you remember that one and American Nazi affiliates now why would you do that

00:19:03.260 one guy tied directly to the National Alliance supposedly got over a million dollars

00:19:09.780 another deep in charlottesville that rally he pocketed uh hundreds of thousands of dollars

00:19:18.120 hmm that's weird all the while the spLC's website and mailer scream help us dismantle

00:19:25.960 white supremacy and they are actually funding it now how did that happen well the same way

00:19:32.280 these things always do layer by layer of deception starting back in the 1980s they

00:19:38.620 built a covert network of field sources. Some were already inside of the hate groups, others

00:19:44.920 infiltrated at the SPLC's direction. They had to keep it hidden from the public and their donors.

00:19:52.620 I don't know where you find this in a 501c3's organization papers, but supposedly they were

00:19:58.920 protecting lives. This is exactly what happened. I swear to you, these extreme right-wing things

00:20:06.560 that are supposedly everywhere, I swear to you, it is probably nothing but paid off people from

00:20:12.500 the SPLC and FBI informants. I mean, there are probably three people there that are actually

00:20:17.540 real. Anyway, they went so far to create shell bank accounts under fake names. They fed false

00:20:26.200 information to banks about who really controlled the money. This is a violation of everything.

00:20:31.840 They routed payments through prepaid cards and cutouts.

00:20:35.740 This is what terrorist organizations do.

00:20:38.860 Donors thought they were funding lawsuits and exposés.

00:20:42.060 Instead, according to the feds, they were bankrolling the very racist the SPLC was denouncing on the evening news.

00:20:48.700 The indictment doesn't call it sloppy accounting.

00:20:51.520 It calls it deliberate fraud.

00:20:55.080 A lie to get the cash, hide where it really went, keep the grift alive for nearly a decade.

00:21:01.020 sblc says this was just intelligence work it's dangerous necessary and we shared it with the

00:21:07.680 fbi no no they didn't according to the doj and the fbi they said we had no there's there's nothing

00:21:14.100 telling us that you were doing this doj said yesterday they weren't dismantling hate they

00:21:21.280 were manufacturing hate that they paid the arsonist to keep the fire going so they could

00:21:26.320 keep raising money to put the fire out and on top of that the DOJ said never were we informed

00:21:32.320 okay I want to take this to a different place those are the facts

00:21:37.540 I want to take this to if the allegations are true

00:21:41.900 this fits directly into what we have seen all over the world in really ugly political systems

00:21:52.860 controlled extremism let me explain how this works this is the way it's happened all over

00:21:58.600 the world okay first you help create or intensify the very the very danger you publicly are claiming

00:22:07.120 to fight if the indictments version are is true the machine would look like this money flows in

00:22:15.860 quietly into radicals and to dangerous people, and it helps them become louder and more active.

00:22:26.280 The public then sees a bigger threat. The organization points that threat out and makes

00:22:32.460 more money, more moral authority, media defense, and political leverage. And it's just lather,

00:22:39.680 rinse, repeat, lather, rinse, repeat. This is the self-licking ice cream cone.

00:22:43.620 the danger feeds the institution and that institution narrates the danger

00:22:51.700 then you turn labels into weapons in authoritarian systems extremist terrorist foreign agent

00:22:59.900 these are all tags that are used to not just identify real threats but to isolate opponents

00:23:06.560 you chill people's association you cut off funding you make the public afraid to defend

00:23:12.420 the target this is what solilinsky talked about okay now reuters has reported that russia their

00:23:20.100 supreme court recently labeled memorial extremist and that created a mechanism to prosecute the

00:23:27.820 donors uh the contributors and people who share its materials belarus used extremist

00:23:35.680 designations to do the same thing to media outlets and journalists. So you begin to isolate people,

00:23:43.280 Saul Alinsky. Third, you build a climate where the map becomes territory. Once a group is publicly

00:23:51.500 targeted as hateful or extremist or subversive, the press, the foundations, the bureaucracies

00:23:58.220 can begin treating the label as proof. So you'll notice that's what the press does. According to

00:24:05.160 the Southern Poverty Law Center, this group is, put the label in, okay? This is where soft

00:24:12.020 totalitarianism systems are born. You don't start with gulags. You start with reputational death,

00:24:22.420 which kind of becomes a soft blacklist. You start funding the choke points and public fear.

00:24:28.740 That's what the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing. Freedom House has warned that authoritarian systems exploit broad extremism and misinformation networks and frameworks to tighten the control over speech and civic space. Think of that.

00:24:49.180 what are they saying they're saying you control every once you get this label out

00:24:58.280 now you can control speech you can control people what they do in the public

00:25:03.680 ai makes censorship and surveillance and disinformation easier and faster and cheaper

00:25:10.600 remember what did the government do after it did all of this

00:25:15.300 After the SPLC would label, what were they doing?

00:25:18.580 The Biden administration was using them as justification to go to people and say,

00:25:23.760 look, the SPLC says these are dangerous people.

00:25:26.460 You have to censor them.

00:25:28.900 Well, what is this beginning to sound like?

00:25:32.280 This is beginning to sound like a color revolution.

00:25:35.080 okay usually a color revolution um if it's not directed it's a mass protest movement that

00:25:46.880 arises because something is illegitimate there's you know an election fraud or whatever

00:25:52.600 it's usually a disputed election um and then they use civil society networks and independent media

00:25:59.660 and public mobilization to challenge whoever the president is or the prime minister that's a color

00:26:05.880 revolution so what do they need they need an unpop see if this any of this is available here

00:26:13.280 in america they need an unpopular incumbent a people a person that is running the government

00:26:18.860 that is hated by at least half the people they need an united opposition and enough independent

00:26:26.980 media to spread the case that the vote was falsified or that this guy is an authoritarian

00:26:32.260 and you need to dismantle and make the other side defending him afraid and fractured.

00:26:40.380 You also need the ability to mobilize large protests like no kings.

00:26:47.940 So Moscow came to view this sequence as a series of things. First, you have to train

00:26:56.960 the opposition networks. Then you have to delegitimize the government. You have to spark

00:27:02.360 protest, replace the regime. That's how Moscow looks at it. I told you for forever, it is bottom

00:27:08.720 up, top down, inside out. This is how the Kremlin interprets these events. Whether that's accurate

00:27:18.200 or not, that's the way they do. I think it's accurate. So let me get back to the SPLC.

00:27:23.940 If an institution can inflate or steer the public perception of extremism, then it can help manufacture a crisis atmosphere.

00:27:36.520 They are not the key to color revolution.

00:27:39.460 They are one layer of the color revolution.

00:27:41.700 I believe this, my theory.

00:27:44.560 Nothing is proven until proven in a court of law.

00:27:46.940 but if you can create that crisis atmosphere it does several things at once it delegitimizes

00:27:55.320 the political opponents it pressures media to conform it justifies surveillance and

00:28:01.940 deplatforming it scares donors and churches and business and people away from the quote

00:28:07.520 wrong side and it creates moral permission for extraordinary countermeasures how many times

00:28:15.700 have you heard people try to kill somebody? Well, let's use Charlie Kirk. How many people say it was

00:28:21.360 justified? That's an extreme position, one that Americans have never held, never, except in our

00:28:30.480 very worst times. Now you have people justifying violence. It's justified. Why? Because somebody

00:28:39.680 has ratcheted up the labels.

00:28:43.040 In an environment like we have right now,

00:28:47.600 they're priming the ground for street mobilization,

00:28:51.660 government action, corporate pressure,

00:28:55.580 selective law enforcement.

00:28:57.240 It's all pushing in the same direction.

00:29:00.720 Now, that's not a revolution.

00:29:02.980 That's the precondition for a revolution. 0.82

00:29:05.960 That's legitimacy for war.

00:29:09.680 If this is true, an organization says these people are dangerous, that feeds or expands those kinds of people.

00:29:27.660 Those people continue to do dangerous things, and the dangerous things that they're doing is amplified, and it's made to look much, much bigger.

00:29:36.880 then the press reports the danger then the public sees that report they label and they say oh my

00:29:44.280 gosh it's everywhere then because the people are rising up saying somebody's got to do something

00:29:49.580 the institutions demand crack down the same organization that was pointing out the danger

00:29:56.400 and funding the danger says you got to do something about it they're elevated as the

00:30:01.920 trusted interpreter of the threat because they're the ones who found it, this is exactly how

00:30:07.660 societies go from free debate into managed fear. And once fear becomes the currency,

00:30:15.980 totalitarian habits follow fast. Look at what's happening right now in Virginia. Look at what

00:30:20.660 they did in Virginia yesterday. What do they do? And everybody who voted this way, I saw the people

00:30:26.200 coming out. People who were coming out of the voting booth and voted to take away the voice

00:30:31.640 of 40% of Virginia. 40% all said the same thing. We have to stop Donald Trump.

00:30:40.900 That's fear pushing you into totalitarianism, and you don't even know it.

00:30:47.580 You label the enemy. You isolate the enemy. You criminalize contact with the enemy. You pressure

00:30:53.940 media financial channels you make ordinary citizens afraid of being seen near the enemy

00:30:59.660 this is what happens every single time is that what the southern poverty law center was doing

00:31:07.760 well i could sure make the case

00:31:13.640 the last people that are pointed to and say these people are danger dangerous are the people who

00:31:25.720 have been pointing out the danger themselves i i will tell you that anybody who gave to the

00:31:33.840 southern poverty law center they are not going to read this the same way they're going to say

00:31:38.300 this is this totalitarian state coming after and trying to silence this group

00:31:44.760 that has done well and done good things for so long.

00:31:48.220 We have to support them even more.

00:31:53.680 Because for a good portion of the country, they're in too deep.

00:32:00.660 And the media will never, ever disassociate themselves from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:32:07.940 Never.

00:32:08.300 never you're listening to the best of glenn beck need a little more check out the full show

00:32:14.100 podcasts anywhere you download podcasts welcome to the uh program you know we're just talking

00:32:20.400 about canada trying to show how um we need to look deeper into all of our problems instead of saying

00:32:27.980 housing prices are so high and it's whatever blame whatever it's that why don't we look

00:32:34.920 deeper into things you know people are growing angry housing prices affordable health care

00:32:39.820 loss of culture why why because of the political decisions that were made to in in many cases to

00:32:48.700 import huge population growth and that drove up the price of everything the loss of culture

00:32:56.740 why was that decision are we talking about that and are we talking about what are we going to do

00:33:03.120 to get that under control no instead we just argue about you have a right to be a country

00:33:09.600 without a border gas prices fuel prices heating prices even groceries well blame it on trump

00:33:16.800 because of the iran war well why why did he go to war because we had terror and he said he was

00:33:23.680 going to stop all foreign wars no he never said that see this is a possible solution to be able to

00:33:31.000 get ourselves i mean to fix the oil prices in america at least you have to produce your own

00:33:36.540 oil you have to refine your own oil and you have to stop being held hostage by crazy people in the

00:33:42.120 middle east so we have to go over to war all the time i don't want to war for oil so the war in

00:33:48.320 iran is a possible solution may not work may not be the solution you would come up with but it's

00:33:53.800 It's at least a possible solution that the president chose, okay?

00:33:58.900 If you want to solve the problem, you have to come up with a way to not be held hostage by crazy people.

00:34:07.400 You have to stop doing business on oil with unsavory characters like Russia or Iran.

00:34:13.260 You have to stop shutting down your own supply to oil. 0.77

00:34:17.200 Start drilling for your own resources.

00:34:20.060 Open your nuclear power plants back up.

00:34:22.420 open your oil rigs back up but that's not what's happening nobody's talking about that because

00:34:27.880 they're getting more and more angry and I'll tell you one place I worry about and one place I cheer

00:34:34.060 for and pray for are the people in Ireland they are rising up and they have had enough of all of

00:34:41.480 this but I don't know how this ends Ben Scallon is with us he's grip media senior political

00:34:47.500 correspondent uh he is uh a conservative leading irish uh news outlet gripped is and he's here to

00:34:56.260 tell us about what is actually happening in ireland uh and what the protesters are doing today

00:35:02.820 how is this going what is the reaction and is there any progress ben welcome well thank you so

00:35:10.000 much for having me diane great to be here thank you so what is happening currently on the ground

00:35:14.500 with the protests in ireland so as you have no doubt heard because it did make international

00:35:21.040 press the last couple of weeks have been very eventful here in the emerald isle we've seen

00:35:26.780 massive blockades of major roads all over the country with truckers and farmers in particular

00:35:34.460 who are protesting over the price of petrol many of these are business owners who are

00:35:41.800 literally now operating at a loss where they can't even you know pay the bills let alone

00:35:48.400 make a profit or have any kind of a thriving business and in a country like Ireland that is

00:35:54.600 so known for its agricultural sector you know this is one of our major uh you know when you

00:36:01.360 think of Ireland you think of farming you know some of our agricultural products are the best

00:36:07.140 in the world and so this is a huge deal and one of the elements of this of course is the iran war

00:36:14.560 needless to say that's been the primary driver of fuel prices worldwide but for many years now in

00:36:20.540 ireland over 50 percent of motor fuel prices are purely comprised of government taxes and levies

00:36:29.120 so when you fill up your car over half of what you're paying is going straight into the state's

00:36:34.440 coffers and so that's been the case for a long time people haven't been happy about it for a long

00:36:39.240 time but they've kind of just accepted it it's been a grumbling issue in the background that

00:36:45.000 people have begrudgingly tolerated but then when the price of energy worldwide explodes

00:36:49.680 and people are not able to make ends meet this has now become kind of the focal point where

00:36:54.560 people are saying well why are we paying so much taxes and what are you going to do about it given

00:36:58.660 that this is something that you can immediately do to pull the ripcord and help every citizen in

00:37:03.760 mistakes it's kind of like i think what they're demanding is kind of like when we have oil crisis

00:37:09.120 we go into the strategic oil reserve and it reduces the price some degree but with you

00:37:15.300 controlling fifth the government controlling 50 of the price just through taxes you would think

00:37:20.040 that it would be a no-brainer especially when people are this unhappy just to go okay we're

00:37:24.400 going to reduce it by 50 we you know we have to have some of it but we're going to take 50 of the

00:37:29.960 taxes and reduce them at least temporarily why won't they do that well they did a small tax

00:37:36.380 cost uh that many people who are in these industries are saying is woefully inadequate

00:37:41.120 and has just been eaten up by inflation almost as quickly as it was put on and they for example

00:37:47.860 just to give one uh practical example of a measure they took we have annual scheduled carbon tax

00:37:54.040 increases and the explicit purpose of this is to deliberately force people out of their cars that

00:38:01.460 was actually what one transport minister said back in 2019 to make it so unaffordable to drive your

00:38:07.200 car that you're forced to take a bike or public transport or get an electric vehicle or something

00:38:12.240 like that so that is the express purpose of the policy is to hurt you and lo and behold it's

00:38:19.140 hurting you. So now that that's become very politically thorny for the government, they've

00:38:26.520 postponed the carbon tax hike until October. So they haven't even said that we're going to reduce

00:38:32.860 carbon tax or we're not going to put carbon tax up. They've just kicked the can down the road by

00:38:37.520 a few months. But as many analysts have pointed out by this point, October is going to be coming

00:38:42.660 into winter when energy prices are going to surge so you're going to be hit with a particularly

00:38:49.020 large bill bigger than you would ordinarily be hit with just when you need energy the most so

00:38:54.600 so that's where we are now it's it's not really uh satisfactory so far as many of the protesters

00:39:00.300 are concerned so if you're flying you know through europe they're actually now saying

00:39:05.480 the eu is saying we may not have enough jet fuel i really don't understand how this is not

00:39:12.100 going deeper to say to to the politicians and to the people of europe saying wait a minute wait a

00:39:18.620 minute we can't afford jet fuel we have a real problem everything stops without jets flying

00:39:24.540 we have a real problem and you're either manufacturing this to get us to not fly and to

00:39:29.100 not drive or you've made so many errors is anybody talking about opening up the oil rigs again

00:39:36.820 opening up drilling opening up this uh uh you know the system that will give you cheaper energy

00:39:43.940 there are people who are calling for that but the government is emphatic that we will not be

00:39:49.560 doing that you know glenn that in ireland we import 100 of the oil that's used on the island

00:39:56.760 we have one oil refinery but we don't actually generate any and it is estimated by independent

00:40:03.960 independent assessors that we have hundreds of millions of barrels of oil potentially off the

00:40:10.980 coast within our territorial waters but in 2020 the government actually banned oil exploration

00:40:17.540 so that you can't look for it offshore so that's potentially sitting there under the ground and

00:40:23.600 nobody is allowed to look for it or try to utilize that and at the same time we're importing it we

00:40:29.780 don't have any nuclear power because that's something that we haven't really even discussed

00:40:33.780 approaching here let alone actually implementing it yeah we will import the electricity that's

00:40:40.640 generated in nuclear countries like france so uh we are one of the most energy exposed countries

00:40:48.340 in europe and europe as a continent is incredibly energy exposed uh relative to a country like

00:40:55.100 america which obviously has its own domestic supplies of this stuff so we're incredibly

00:40:59.700 we were doing the same thing until trump we were shutting it all down we were making it impossible

00:41:05.320 to get in our own energy and we were headed exactly the same way and thank god for donald

00:41:10.040 trump to say nope we're drilling drill drill drill we're pulling it up but we haven't built

00:41:14.660 a refinery here in so long everything we drill we have to sell overseas because we can't refine

00:41:21.120 it's light sweet crude we can't refine it here because we don't build refineries

00:41:25.000 uh so our prices of gas are still up through the roof because all the oil we we pull we have to

00:41:31.280 sell to somebody else um ben the it seems like much of the west including here in america is on

00:41:40.340 this suicidal course that we just that that the policies that are being imposed are just

00:41:46.640 pushing us into suicide as nations or even a culture do you do you see hope on the other

00:41:55.480 side do you think things are going to change is this a straw that broke the camel's back or

00:42:00.380 well the the protesters here when they were blocking certain uh kinds of infrastructure

00:42:06.900 as a form of protest the government accused them of an act of national sabotage i i wonder

00:42:14.720 what kind of sabotage it is to deliberately increase the price of energy on citizens with

00:42:22.500 the express purpose of making their life harder. I think there's a lot of people in the crowd who

00:42:27.360 would have called that an act of national sabotage. I'm not aware of another region outside of Europe

00:42:32.200 that does that, given, as you know, and as your listeners know, energy is the lifeblood of any

00:42:41.640 kind of society or economy this is the essence of the modern world how we are able to heat

00:42:47.140 ourselves feed ourselves transport ourselves without that everything grinds to a halt and so

00:42:53.940 the idea that you would go out of your way as a state to intentionally make it harder for people

00:42:59.780 to utilize that seems uh absurd to me and of course they they say if a government minister

00:43:05.900 was sitting here that this is all being replaced with green energy but we've been pursuing that for

00:43:13.280 decades now and we're still in the position we're in so without even getting into you know you could

00:43:19.600 have all the arguments you want about the efficacy of windmills and offshore wind and all these

00:43:26.520 different renewable measures that they push but if that was all it was cracked up to be i don't

00:43:32.300 think we would be in the calamitous situation we're in now that the results kind of speak for

00:43:37.300 themselves i'm going over to england uh to speak at the tommy robinson uh rally and my wife is like

00:43:46.620 what what should we expect i mean how dangerous is it gonna be i'm like it's gonna be fine honey

00:43:51.120 it's gonna be fine um but the one thing that has crossed my mind is you know it's easy to blame

00:43:57.740 uh donald trump for the price of oil and i mean it was his move that has caused all of this so

00:44:04.800 yes in some ways it absolutely is is our fault how what is the population's view on america and

00:44:13.100 americans at this time well frankly ireland is very hostile to donald trump overall the there

00:44:22.320 are exceptions of course uh you're never going to get unanimity on somebody who's as polarizing as

00:44:27.680 the u.s president but i think there was a poll done not too long ago which found that if ireland

00:44:33.380 had a vote in the u.s presidential election we would vote democrats with a bigger margin than

00:44:41.000 california so we would literally be the most liberal state in the u.s if if we were to have

00:44:47.840 a vote in such things so yeah a lot of a lot of people blame donald trump and you know obviously

00:44:52.560 there's a strong argument for that given everything that's happened.

00:44:55.620 But I also think, you know, all the measures that we're discussing,

00:45:01.160 climate measures, green energy measures,

00:45:04.240 all this recent crisis is doing is giving us a time machine-like glance

00:45:11.360 into the future of what they would be hoping for us.

00:45:15.200 You know, how can you complain that Donald Trump is restricting our supply of oil

00:45:19.780 when European leaders for decades

00:45:22.480 have been deliberately trying to destroy

00:45:24.740 their own supply of oil.

00:45:26.160 You know, isn't he doing our own job for us

00:45:28.660 that you guys tell us is the objective

00:45:30.800 of success of governments?

00:45:32.540 You know, you can't really blame him

00:45:33.920 for delivering us into the utopia

00:45:38.680 that we were all aiming for.

00:45:42.220 Good, good, good point.

00:45:43.720 Ben, thank you so much.

00:45:44.760 And we pray for your people

00:45:46.340 and I hope it works out.

00:45:50.360 We pray for your farmers.

00:45:52.280 When I say I am a farmer,

00:45:53.780 I own farmland and cattle, a ranch,

00:45:57.880 so I can relate to what the farmer is going through.

00:46:01.860 And it is a really, really hard life.

00:46:04.840 You don't need anything else to make it even more difficult.

00:46:07.760 So we pray for you.

00:46:08.720 Thank you.

00:46:09.860 Thank you, Glenn.

00:46:10.740 You bet.

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