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00:00:47.100 Also, Winsome Sears is joining us.

00:00:49.660 She is running for governor in Virginia.

00:00:53.580 This race changes everything in Virginia, and she's about two points behind the Democrats.

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00:04:18.880 If you are in Virginia, you're hearing and seeing this ad on TV.

00:04:24.200 Would it take him pulling the trigger?

00:04:26.580 Is that what would do it?

00:04:28.020 And then you would say he needs to get out of the race? 0.53

00:04:30.920 Abigail, you have nothing to say?

00:04:34.520 Abigail, what if he said it about your two children, your three children?

00:04:39.360 Is that when you would say he should get out of the race, Abigail?

00:04:45.680 You're running to be governor, Miss Earl Sears.

00:04:49.280 I mean, we're talking about murder.

00:04:50.800 We're talking about someone's life being taken from them.

00:04:54.820 Have you nothing to say about that?

00:04:57.940 Are you not going to address it?

00:05:00.840 Really, you can't go any further.

00:05:02.800 You're a governor.

00:05:03.700 You're supposed to stand up for all the people.

00:05:06.100 Are you saying political murder is all right?

00:05:09.360 Have some political courage.

00:05:12.420 What you have done is you are taking political calculations about your future as governor.

00:05:18.480 Well, as governor, you have to make hard choices.

00:05:21.300 And that means telling Jay Jones to leave the race.

00:05:24.760 It is one of the most powerful moments I've ever seen in any debate.

00:05:31.780 And I think we've seen some powerful moments in debates recently.

00:05:34.940 Winsome Earl Sears is with us now.

00:05:38.120 Winsome, when she refused to even look at you, was it your guess she would do that?

00:05:43.560 Or did you actually think she would respond?

00:05:45.820 Because I was dumbfounded by her response.

00:05:49.020 No, it occurred to me that she was, I thought she was being cowardice, but then it occurred

00:05:56.380 to me, no, she's being calculating and cunning, which is worse because when you look it up,

00:06:02.000 a calculating and cunning politician is one who uses methodologies to turn people against

00:06:06.860 them.

00:06:07.480 They're manipulators and they're like three, four steps ahead of you.

00:06:10.780 But then, you know, she has former CIA training and it also says that they show no emotion.

00:06:17.760 And that's who she is. 0.71

00:06:19.220 At least if you're a coward, at some point, you're going to get a backbone and you're going 0.71

00:06:22.700 to say to yourself, my God, I got to do the right thing. 0.90

00:06:24.980 But I never saw that in her.

00:06:27.060 She was cold and she was smirking so much.

00:06:30.640 And then, you know, she just adjusted herself.

00:06:32.720 And I'm thinking, this woman can't be governor. 1.00

00:06:34.820 She doesn't care about us. 0.99

00:06:36.760 So what was her calculation on that?

00:06:38.920 How is she planning on spinning that? 0.98

00:06:42.220 Well, because she's thinking, well, if I tell him to get out of the race, then these 0.98

00:06:46.500 folks are going to be angry with me.

00:06:47.960 And if I tell him to stay in the race, then these folks are going to be angry with me.

00:06:52.020 And I didn't, you know, I have planned my life.

00:06:54.900 If you look at her life, she's lived a very careful, a very curated life, a very calculating

00:07:01.140 life.

00:07:01.720 And you can see that, you know, now I got to do this and then I got to do this and then

00:07:05.700 I got to do.

00:07:06.200 I don't know very many people live that way.

00:07:08.040 I mean, we're all real people around here and things happen to us, but they never seem

00:07:12.280 to happen to her.

00:07:13.060 She always seems to, you know, just work her way. 0.99

00:07:16.140 And I'm thinking, my God, this is something else.

00:07:20.700 She doesn't have the right common sense ideas. 1.00

00:07:23.940 And when she knows what the right thing to do, she doesn't take those hits.

00:07:28.100 And I'm telling you, if you're running to be governor, you've got to have a backbone.

00:07:32.740 But she's more of a calculating, cunning person. 0.77

00:07:35.600 It's, it's, that's usually what we get now from the uber left is calculation.

00:07:41.460 And they won't tell you who they are until they start enacting, until they have power.

00:07:46.160 When she was asked about the question about boys being in girls sports, it's another one. 0.80

00:07:50.680 She didn't give a yes or no.

00:07:52.620 Did she?

00:07:52.980 No, she didn't.

00:07:56.020 She just looked and stared off into space as if, you know, I got this.

00:08:00.260 I'm over this.

00:08:01.340 I'm above this.

00:08:02.600 You know, we don't elect our politicians from above us.

00:08:05.580 We elect them from among us.

00:08:07.240 And you need to come back and talk to me, you know, and ask me my opinion.

00:08:11.480 You know, I want to know, do you know me?

00:08:13.940 Do you see me?

00:08:15.020 Do you hear me?

00:08:16.260 Do you want to hear from me?

00:08:17.600 I didn't leave politics for 20 years and come back to be mealy-mouthed.

00:08:22.080 That's not what we want.

00:08:24.100 And that's what she is.

00:08:28.140 She also wants to make Virginia a sanctuary state on day one. 0.99

00:08:34.180 And she doesn't seem to understand the benefit of local police working with the federal government and federal police.

00:08:41.540 Can you explain this?

00:08:43.780 Oh, she does. 0.99

00:08:44.520 But, you see, they're trying to change things and what they do.

00:08:49.060 So she and people like her in politics, they divide the people. 1.00

00:08:54.280 They put in policies that, you know, have us at each other's throats so then they can say, see, this is why you need us.

00:09:01.500 And they, you know, ride in like the cavalry to come help us.

00:09:05.640 We don't need that because if she had stopped the open borders, fentanyl wouldn't have flowed through and killed five Virginians every week. 1.00

00:09:16.160 If she had kept the borders closed, then we wouldn't have had the Chinese communist gangs. 0.86

00:09:20.900 We wouldn't have MS-13 and Truendal Agua and all those people come through. 1.00

00:09:25.200 We wouldn't be now seeing ICE, you know, having to do what they're doing to get those who are criminally illegal gone.

00:09:32.840 And so this is their doing.

00:09:35.800 And now they're saying, oh, look how bad ICE is.

00:09:38.940 Do you see what they're doing?

00:09:40.380 But you did it.

00:09:41.340 You started it.

00:09:42.260 And now you're on the other side.

00:09:44.080 I'm telling you, this is cunning stuff.

00:09:46.580 You really got to, you know, think about this hard.

00:09:49.080 There is a, Stu, what was the name of that Islamic organization that she was a part of right after September 11th?

00:09:57.940 She was very, very proud of being part of this.

00:10:01.500 And I don't know if you know.

00:10:03.800 Yeah.

00:10:04.200 The ISA school.

00:10:05.940 ISA school.

00:10:07.720 And I don't know if you're aware of her ties to deep ties to Islamists in Virginia.

00:10:14.400 No, I'm not aware.

00:10:18.780 But, see, that's the other thing.

00:10:20.780 You know, she's part of a group that, well, there are five schools here who will not protect our girls from the men coming into the bathrooms, 1.00

00:10:31.160 from the men standing full front nude in the locker rooms with girls.

00:10:35.320 And when we talk about these things, they try to make us look like we're the people who don't have any sense.

00:10:43.000 Even when I ask her about her own children, you know, Abigail, what if it's your child who comes and she's crying?

00:10:50.060 What are you going to do then?

00:10:51.340 Silence.

00:10:52.060 Nothing.

00:10:52.700 Nothing.

00:10:53.400 Just cold.

00:10:54.540 Just cold.

00:10:55.440 Who is this woman who wants to be our governor here in Virginia? 1.00

00:10:59.380 We can't have her.

00:11:00.640 She's going to destroy our business. 1.00

00:11:02.080 You know, we've created so many jobs here, over 250,000 job openings now, 276,000 people we've put back to work.

00:11:10.800 We've put in child care money.

00:11:12.520 We are keeping the right to work so you don't have to be forced to join a union and then drive up wages, which doesn't help anybody.

00:11:20.560 We've gotten rid of 91,000-plus job-killing regulations, and businesses are coming.

00:11:25.700 The U-Hauls are finally coming back to Virginia, stopping here.

00:11:29.840 She doesn't know how to do any of that. 0.99

00:11:31.260 And she was never here when we were making all these great choices for Virginia.

00:11:35.620 So I don't need on-the-job training.

00:11:38.120 I have been doing the work.

00:11:40.080 Where have you been, Abigail?

00:11:41.880 Oh, in Congress, making decisions against us.

00:11:45.080 Now, it was easy, right, when she was one of 435 members of Congress?

00:11:50.720 But now she's by herself, and she's got to stand on all those decisions she's made.

00:11:56.040 Even Joe Biden, in his most lucid moments, vetoed a bill that she voted for, which kept D.C. where you see the crime is today.

00:12:05.780 She's soft on crime and voted for criminal penalties to be absolutely reduced for the most heinous crimes.

00:12:12.980 That's what she wants to do in Virginia. 0.94

00:12:14.940 And don't even talk about energy policy.

00:12:16.980 She has none.

00:12:17.720 And, oh, it's solar and wind.

00:12:19.880 And what do we do?

00:12:21.200 What do we do when the sun isn't shining?

00:12:24.300 Isn't it actually worse than no energy policy?

00:12:27.480 Isn't the energy policy of Virginia pretty much the energy policy of California?

00:12:32.300 Aren't you guys tied together with the California regulations?

00:12:37.180 So we were until Virginians put Governor Youngkin and myself and our attorney general, Jason Nears, in office, and we got us out of there.

00:12:49.740 Because, wait a minute, Glenn, you did see that even Gavin Newsom now is suing the oil refineries and the gas industry because they want to leave California.

00:13:01.500 You've been against them, Gavin, all this time.

00:13:04.460 You and the other Democrats, and now you're suing them to force them to stay.

00:13:08.920 This is nonsense.

00:13:10.840 None of this makes any sense.

00:13:12.520 And, you know, Glenn, here's why this is important, that we have a head on our shoulders.

00:13:16.400 The Industrial Revolution is still happening.

00:13:18.820 Technological Revolution is still happening.

00:13:20.640 I was reading about China two days ago.

00:13:23.200 They have factories in China that don't even have any people.

00:13:26.280 The lights aren't even on because it's all robotic.

00:13:29.280 So while we're trying to figure out who a woman is, they have moved on. 0.78

00:13:34.460 China is going to eat our lunch if we're not careful. 1.00

00:13:38.200 So what is the big thing that would be the difference between you and a Youngkin administration and certainly a Spanberger administration?

00:13:49.440 What's the big thing that you bring to the table?

00:13:51.600 Well, we bring a continued success story.

00:13:56.940 And success begets success.

00:13:58.920 And for a long time, Abigail was running on our successes.

00:14:02.720 I mean, we've lowered taxes to the tune of returning $9 billion back to the people of Virginia.

00:14:08.720 Even as we kept our AAA bond rating, even as we up teacher pay 18%, even as we've been attracting businesses, even as we have decompressed the pay for our law enforcement and Department of Corrections personnel.

00:14:24.260 I mean, even as we've put in new programs to help those who are mentally ill.

00:14:29.220 I mean, we've done so.

00:14:30.340 We've put roads and bridge money.

00:14:32.400 We've done so much.

00:14:33.860 And it's because we know how to do this.

00:14:36.240 I mean, I've run my own business.

00:14:38.100 The governor has run businesses.

00:14:40.240 My opponent doesn't know any of this.

00:14:42.220 She would just destroy everything.

00:14:44.220 Put all those regulations back.

00:14:46.000 Put all those taxes back.

00:14:47.380 Put us back in the Greenhouse Gas Initiative of California.

00:14:52.120 I mean, every single Democrat voted for this green initiative.

00:14:57.060 And you know what it's doing?

00:14:58.140 It's driving up our costs in Virginia.

00:15:01.080 And you've probably heard of our energy bills where people are paying $800 a month, up to $1,600 a month, and winter is coming.

00:15:10.320 This is what the Democrats have given us.

00:15:12.740 And when I'm governor, I'm going to repeal that darned act because it does nothing but drive up costs. 0.87

00:15:18.800 We cannot have Abigail. 0.97

00:15:20.400 She will destroy everything that we've done.

00:15:24.140 You know, I know nobody mentions this, and it's not really important.

00:15:26.940 It's not important to me, but it is worth mentioning, at least.

00:15:29.760 On the left, they'd be running.

00:15:31.140 This is all this campaign would be about.

00:15:33.440 You were the first woman elected to lieutenant governor, the first black woman and female veteran to hold a statewide office in Virginia.

00:15:39.800 You will be the first black woman to be a governor if you win in Virginia. 1.00

00:15:47.620 That's pretty remarkable.

00:15:50.100 It's remarkable for a country that everybody, you know, on the left keeps saying is a racist country.

00:15:56.420 You know who said we were not a racist country?

00:15:58.920 Biden.

00:15:59.800 And by the way, Kabbalah said that there was no systemic racism in America.

00:16:04.300 And they said that in 2021.

00:16:06.760 I guess they forgot that a little bit later because, what, their side wasn't liking that?

00:16:11.720 And I'm from a third world country.

00:16:13.680 Think of this.

00:16:14.220 I am an immigrant, and yet here I sit, second in command in the former capital of the Confederate states.

00:16:21.080 Don't tell me that America is not a great country.

00:16:24.300 And yet we have enough people on the left teaching their children, Glenn, to hate their own country.

00:16:32.020 Their own country.

00:16:33.660 What in the world?

00:16:36.320 It's amazing.

00:16:37.540 Winsome, thank you so much.

00:16:39.180 We pray for you.

00:16:40.860 We hope you do really well in the election.

00:16:44.680 How long have the voting, early voting been going on now?

00:16:49.540 Two weeks?

00:16:50.040 We've been voting since, no, we're about in our fourth week now.

00:16:54.080 We've been voting since September 19th.

00:16:56.980 Yes.

00:16:57.520 And this is what the Democrats have given us, open season.

00:17:01.160 And that's why we've got to win.

00:17:02.440 We've got to change things.

00:17:03.580 And by the way, the polls are looking very good.

00:17:06.120 The Trafalgar poll shows that I am two down, but its margin of error is four.

00:17:11.080 So I'm either two up or right in the middle.

00:17:14.480 And the Washington Post, of all newspapers, I would hope that they would tell the truth.

00:17:20.040 But they're showing polls where I'm 13 down, and they know it to be a lie.

00:17:24.260 We can't have press like that.

00:17:26.320 This is America.

00:17:27.560 We look to our press to give us truth.

00:17:30.080 Or maybe not.

00:17:31.800 Yeah, I was going to say, Washington Post has kind of given up on, but I appreciate it.

00:17:36.080 Thank you so much.

00:17:36.660 We're going to talk about the polls here in just a second.

00:17:38.560 Winsome, thank you so much.

00:17:39.480 Where can people go to join your campaign and help you out?

00:17:43.720 Yes, she's out raising me four to one, but by the grace of God, we're still standing.

00:17:48.080 I need your help.

00:17:49.660 Winsomeforgovernor.com.

00:17:51.020 Winsome, F-O-R, governor.com.

00:17:53.880 Thank you.

00:17:54.440 Thank you, Glenn.

00:17:55.180 Thank you.

00:17:55.860 God bless you.

00:17:56.420 Thank you.

00:17:57.260 I just love her.

00:17:58.240 I just think she would make a great, great governor. 1.00

00:18:01.920 She's really smart.

00:18:03.300 She's business-minded, common sense, and really has a lot of empathy.

00:18:09.020 I just love her.

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00:19:34.800 All right, told you about gold here at record highs, and it is telling us something.

00:19:41.800 Usually, it would tell us that the dollar is in real, real trouble.

00:19:44.540 I think, and I am guessing at this now, but I think what this is telling us is that the whole world, the whole system is in trouble.

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00:19:54.480 I'm going to talk to you about something to try to make sense of it here, but I don't have a good answer because we're not having these conversations.

00:20:03.520 I have told you for almost 20 years when it comes to AI, we must have these conversations now because the world is going to change overnight,

00:20:12.240 and we are at that point.

00:20:14.600 We are at the point of singularity where there is no turning back, and we haven't had these conversations.

00:20:21.100 Do you want to win the AI war?

00:20:23.640 I will tell you, we cannot lose it.

00:20:27.440 But to win it, we may have to sacrifice so much on the altar of liberty that I don't want to fight it.

00:20:35.900 But so what do we do?

00:20:39.600 Let me explain.

00:20:40.700 Something has shifted in the world, and most people cannot feel it yet.

00:20:44.560 But if you're paying attention, you understand there is something on the horizon.

00:20:49.260 One day soon, we're going to wake up and we're going to realize, uh-oh, I think we crossed a line here.

00:20:54.320 Quietly, silently, while no one was paying attention, everything changed.

00:20:58.800 Over the past few days, while the world has been paying attention to what is going on in Israel and the Middle East,

00:21:05.840 there's a couple of other really important headlines that have caught my attention.

00:21:11.380 And at first, they all seemed unrelated, just random stories from around the world.

00:21:15.880 But when you look closer, and this is what I think I do best,

00:21:18.740 I take things that are seemingly unrelated and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, I think they all fit into this category.

00:21:25.140 So let me give you some threads here.

00:21:27.060 First thread is China.

00:21:29.520 Beijing just tightened its grip on rare earth elements.

00:21:33.660 These are the minerals that make absolutely everything possible.

00:21:38.360 Your smartphone, your electric car, your missile defense system, your refrigerator.

00:21:44.080 Everything depends on these rare earth minerals. 0.99

00:21:48.660 China, because of our inaction and stupid policies over the last couple of decades, 0.99

00:21:54.880 control now 80% of the world's supply chain. 1.00

00:21:57.720 That cannot stand.

00:21:59.140 That cannot stand.

00:22:00.760 Now what they're doing is they're choking it off.

00:22:03.900 They are now closing it up.

00:22:05.680 And they are threatening the West.

00:22:07.500 No more rare earth minerals.

00:22:10.220 If that happens, we cannot defend ourselves.

00:22:14.640 Do we have rare earth minerals?

00:22:17.100 Yeah, we have lots of them.

00:22:18.940 But we're not mining them.

00:22:20.620 It will take a decade to start mining them up in Alaska, where they mainly are.

00:22:26.680 That's why Donald Trump was saying, we need Greenland.

00:22:31.220 That's what he was saying.

00:22:32.520 Rare earth minerals.

00:22:33.960 Because they're already mining them there, and we cannot lose them.

00:22:37.420 Now, they're choking it off, and rare earth stocks exploded overnight.

00:22:43.940 Because whoever controls those minerals controls the future.

00:22:48.700 Now here's the second thread.

00:22:50.600 The Pentagon.

00:22:51.120 Out of nowhere, they made a billion-dollar emergency order for those same rare earth minerals.

00:22:59.500 That's not normal.

00:23:01.180 That's not paperwork.

00:23:02.880 That is the sound of a military quietly preparing for something.

00:23:07.320 A shortage.

00:23:09.160 Possibly in a storm.

00:23:10.620 Like I said, we are, because of what Biden did in Ukraine, we are wholly unprepared for any kind of military action.

00:23:24.060 We don't have the materials.

00:23:25.960 And at the same time, everything is changing to high tech.

00:23:30.320 We don't have the rare earth minerals and the chips now to make our guided missile systems.

00:23:36.160 The third thread.

00:23:39.020 JPMorgan Chase, one of the most powerful institutions on the planet, just announced this week a $1.5 trillion investment plan in what they called security and resilience.

00:23:52.000 That's not going to mom-and-pop shops.

00:23:54.440 That's not going to community loans.

00:23:56.860 That money is being funneled straight into AI, defense manufacturing, and critical minerals.

00:24:03.500 It's as if the Pentagon and Wall Street just linked arms and decided to build a fortress economy together.

00:24:13.660 Then came the fourth thread.

00:24:16.480 Nobody paid attention to this one.

00:24:19.060 In Europe, the Dutch government just seized control of the Chinese-owned chipmaker on their own soil.

00:24:25.580 They invoked emergency powers and nationalized the company to stop the Chinese influence over the semiconductor industry.

00:24:35.640 That's not good.

00:24:37.580 Four stories, four continents, four quiet tremors in the ground.

00:24:44.200 When you weave them all together, that's when you begin to understand what all of this means.

00:24:49.700 So let me try to do that.

00:24:50.780 The old world, as we know it, is dying.

00:24:55.760 The world of free markets, the world of open trade, individual enterprise, the world that lifted billions out of poverty is being replaced now, slowly but surely, by something new.

00:25:08.980 And this one is being done in the name of security.

00:25:12.900 And I don't have an answer for this.

00:25:15.260 This is why we must pay attention and talk about it now.

00:25:21.420 Corporations now are aligning with state power.

00:25:24.400 Before, we had the tech industry aligning itself with the government to control speech.

00:25:31.520 This is the government aligning themselves with tech, rare earth minerals, etc., etc., to be able to win the AI war.

00:25:39.900 However, all of this is a single unspoken motive, and that is the race to dominate artificial intelligence.

00:25:50.660 This is the new arms race.

00:25:53.060 This is the new Manhattan Project, the new nuclear weapon, except this is a million times more enslaving than nuclear weapons could ever hope to be.

00:26:03.600 Whoever masters this first, whoever gets to AI and AGI first, will control the economies, the information, even your thought itself.

00:26:20.420 Every rare earth mineral, every chip, every line of code, they're all ingredients in that same contest.

00:26:28.440 And the nations are moving fast.

00:26:30.800 They're hoarding materials now.

00:26:32.440 Now, we're beginning to seize companies.

00:26:35.580 They're building walled-off supply chains.

00:26:38.340 This is happening on their side and our side.

00:26:40.900 And the free market in this particular place is no longer free.

00:26:45.380 It's being drafted into a digital cold war.

00:26:50.080 Now, that sounds bad, but now let me tell you the danger that nobody seems to get.

00:26:55.660 When nations go to war, even an economic war, freedom always becomes a casualty.

00:27:05.060 We tell ourselves we're fighting for liberty.

00:27:09.600 And we are.

00:27:11.220 Because we don't want to live in a society like China, right? 1.00

00:27:15.020 I don't.

00:27:16.540 But when survival's on the line, governments tighten control for our own good.

00:27:21.440 They regulate, they ration, they censor.

00:27:25.380 And one day you look up and you realize the line between democracy and technocracy is gone.

00:27:34.880 If the West wants to win this AI war, and we must, then we have to have a conversation.

00:27:45.340 Why are we even fighting this war?

00:27:47.220 Because if in winning it we become China, why not let China just win? 1.00

00:27:53.360 If we adopt the same top-down control, the same surveillance, the same merger of government and corporate power,

00:27:59.600 then what did we actually win?

00:28:02.720 Didn't we just trade one master for another?

00:28:07.480 The old global system, free enterprise, open markets, individual liberty,

00:28:12.380 it is being rewritten in real time.

00:28:15.700 And the threads are now all coming together, and they're weaving a new tapestry.

00:28:23.220 I don't know what the tapestry looks like.

00:28:25.800 I can guess at what that tapestry looks like, and I don't like it.

00:28:30.600 Will it be woven from freedom, or will it be woven from fear?

00:28:37.000 If we lose sight of who we are, look, our global leadership, it's already lost sight for who we are.

00:28:43.080 They don't care.

00:28:44.340 They don't care.

00:28:45.120 None of them care.

00:28:46.800 They'll get to this global dominance over the individual one way or another in their book.

00:28:53.260 You must care.

00:28:55.140 You must stand for freedom.

00:28:57.420 You must be at the head of having this conversation.

00:29:01.980 Because if we lose sight of who we are,

00:29:05.440 this tapestry is going to be strong, efficient, and unbreakable.

00:29:12.400 But it will not be free.

00:29:15.340 And someday, historians are going to look back at this moment, and they're going to, what happened?

00:29:19.460 They're going to see these quiet headlines, these invisible decisions that are being made right now,

00:29:25.700 and they'll realize, this is when the new world began.

00:29:28.960 They will be able to look at this point and say, this was it.

00:29:32.120 Why didn't people see it?

00:29:35.260 Hmm.

00:29:37.180 The answer to that is obvious.

00:29:39.280 We're overwhelmed with everything that we have to do, everything we're looking at.

00:29:43.400 This has been a very well-planned takeover of freedom.

00:29:48.380 You have to ask yourself, when the weaving is done, whose pattern will we be living in?

00:30:00.100 Because that's what is coming.

00:30:02.680 There's a story in the show prep today that I really want you to read.

00:30:05.940 I'm going to talk to you about it here in a second.

00:30:07.860 Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified.

00:30:13.100 You don't have any idea how far China is ahead of us.

00:30:18.380 And you can say, well, I don't want to be China. 0.98

00:30:23.300 Well, you will be China, and China will be controlling you if we don't push back. 0.92

00:30:30.380 But how do we push back without becoming China? 0.99

00:30:34.940 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:42.140 Let me bring in Dexter Heimer.

00:30:44.980 I'm Dexter Heimer.

00:30:46.660 Heimer.

00:30:47.740 He is a Houston Chronicle investigative reporter.

00:30:51.340 And he has been reporting on this seemingly crazy story.

00:30:56.280 When you first heard about this, Eric, did you have a hard time believing it?

00:31:02.060 Because I know I did.

00:31:04.980 I did have a hard time believing it, at least the particulars of it, in terms of the general

00:31:09.660 idea that something crazy could happen out in Loving County.

00:31:12.820 That was a little more believable.

00:31:14.140 I've been covering the area for a little while, and it's a peculiar spot out in far west Texas.

00:31:19.940 Okay.

00:31:20.940 Can we rule out one thing?

00:31:22.800 Is any of this, because it seems to be, when I first heard it, they're saying a lot of black

00:31:27.680 people are moving in.

00:31:28.700 And I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's okay.

00:31:31.240 Maybe that's okay, white people. 0.80

00:31:33.520 Is this in any way influenced by race, do you think?

00:31:38.420 You know, at first blush, it might seem that way, but my reporting didn't really show that.

00:31:45.960 It is true that the group of people moving in is called the melanated people of power.

00:31:51.140 It refers to their skin color. 0.80

00:31:53.080 Most, if not all of them, appear to be black.

00:31:55.560 But I also interviewed people in Loving County, including some black folks who live there.

00:32:00.980 And, you know, they said that there wasn't anything really racial about what was happening

00:32:06.800 out there.

00:32:07.260 Okay, so who are these people that are moving in?

00:32:10.320 How is this happening?

00:32:11.860 And what are they after?

00:32:14.840 So they are followers of a guy named Dr. Malcolm Tanner, who's an Indiana resident.

00:32:20.800 And over the summer, he started promoting on his social media platforms this program where

00:32:27.240 that if you moved out to Loving County, Texas, you would get a free home and $5,000 a month

00:32:33.220 in free income.

00:32:36.000 And so far, about three dozen people have moved out there.

00:32:40.680 And is that a lot for this town?

00:32:43.820 What is the population of this county?

00:32:46.160 So Loving County has about 70 people in all.

00:32:48.820 It has one city called Mentone.

00:32:52.160 So for commissioner seats, those seats that have precincts, you can win with about a dozen

00:32:57.680 votes if you want to run for and win as a sheriff or as a county judge, which in Texas is the

00:33:03.460 highest administrative office in a county.

00:33:05.920 You can have that office for maybe four or five dozen votes.

00:33:10.620 So yeah, 30 people is starting to build a substantial voting bloc out there.

00:33:16.660 And who is this guy in Indiana that's doing this?

00:33:20.380 So he's kind of mysterious.

00:33:23.360 He's a charismatic guy.

00:33:24.660 He has claimed that he started this melanated people of power to enfranchise folks who typically 0.60

00:33:33.740 don't have political or economic power of their own.

00:33:38.040 He claims he's an entrepreneur.

00:33:40.020 He claims that he's a philanthropist.

00:33:41.840 But really nailing down things about him is pretty difficult.

00:33:45.500 He's got a trail of lawsuits in Indiana against the city of Muncie, against Grant County, having

00:33:52.700 to do with property disputes.

00:33:54.880 He calls himself doctor, but he doesn't identify which institution conferred that degree on him.

00:34:00.420 But as I said, what he does have is a fairly sizable social media presence.

00:34:05.460 And it seems to his message seems to be speaking to a lot of people all over the country.

00:34:11.120 The folks who have moved to Levin County have come from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina,

00:34:16.500 some within Texas, but really from all over.

00:34:20.040 So you don't improve somebody's station in life by giving them free housing and $5,000 a month.

00:34:25.760 You create jobs.

00:34:28.140 You help them create their own life and their own path.

00:34:33.100 What is his plan other than just continuing to pay for these trailers?

00:34:39.120 Because they're mobile homes, right?

00:34:41.120 So paying for the mobile homes and then the $5,000 a month, that's not a plan.

00:34:49.000 Yeah, I don't know if he has a grand economic plan.

00:34:52.120 You know, what I can tell you is that based on the people who have moved out there and

00:34:55.280 kind of reading it on social media, it's, you know, the idea of a free home for someone

00:35:00.140 who can't otherwise afford one or, you know, for whom that seems out of reach is a pretty

00:35:05.420 powerful lure, right?

00:35:07.080 And he has said that, you know, if we get enough people out here, we'll kind of, you

00:35:12.880 know, goose industry and bring in businesses.

00:35:15.660 I mean, the truth is that Levin County is doing very well for itself.

00:35:19.680 Right now, it's in the middle of the Permian Basin, which is the big oil and gas producing

00:35:23.820 region of Texas.

00:35:24.760 And they have about, you know, say 70 permanent residents and their budget this year is going

00:35:31.740 to be about $60 million for a little, so a little less than a million dollars per person.

00:35:37.140 And, you know, overwhelmingly that money comes from oil and gas taxes that they collect.

00:35:42.400 So there's already a lot of money out there.

00:35:45.200 There's, you know, besides oil and gas, there's a couple of support service businesses, you

00:35:49.780 know, some gas stations, one or two restaurants, but not a ton else.

00:35:55.520 Okay.

00:35:56.000 So what is the city doing to investigate, to stop this, or can they do anything?

00:36:04.260 Well, one of the really interesting things to me about Levin County is that it does have

00:36:08.380 this very long history of kind of dicey voter registration and voting out there, that there

00:36:15.660 are a couple of powerful families out there.

00:36:18.200 They've been feuding in recent years and in order to kind of keep and maintain power, they've

00:36:25.920 been pretty loose with voter rules.

00:36:28.740 So people who may have moved away from there, you know, years and years ago are still registered

00:36:33.800 to vote there.

00:36:34.480 So the result of that is that there are many more people registered to vote in Levin County

00:36:38.220 than who actually live there.

00:36:40.960 That's a long way of saying that to a lot of people, saying that a lot of people who live

00:36:45.200 out there, this is kind of the, you know, the chickens coming home to roost, that they've

00:36:48.840 promoted and lived with the system for quite a while.

00:36:51.460 And here's someone who's come in, you know, looking to take advantage of it.

00:36:55.680 So the only thing they can really do is, you know, make sure that all the boxes are checked

00:37:00.220 on the voter registration forms.

00:37:02.920 Outside of the county, however, there have been some investigations mounted.

00:37:07.800 A couple of state representatives have asked for investigations by the Texas Secretary of

00:37:13.380 State, which is the office that oversees elections here in Texas.

00:37:19.220 There's a U.S. representative, Chip Roy, who was asked for an investigation.

00:37:24.180 And then yesterday, our attorney general, Ken Paxton, filed a lawsuit asking for a restraining

00:37:30.380 order and also accusing the group of violating a handful of local laws.

00:37:35.360 His purpose seems to be trying to shut it down.

00:37:37.400 What do you, where does this end up?

00:37:42.660 I mean, as a reporter, I know you don't report on future news, but where does this lead?

00:37:49.880 Well, I mean, the most obvious point is that living in Loving County, particularly in the

00:37:54.280 conditions that these folks are living, is pretty difficult, right?

00:37:57.840 I mean, it's an arid, isolated place.

00:38:01.300 It's very hot out there.

00:38:02.480 There's no trees.

00:38:03.200 It's just a bunch of, you know, creosote and caliche and scrubland.

00:38:07.600 It's tough.

00:38:09.460 Yeah, it's hard.

00:38:11.220 And there's no services out on this piece of property that Malcolm Tanner has purchased.

00:38:15.960 He purchased two five-acre plots out there in January, and they're about a 30-minute drive

00:38:22.060 out, you know, kind of rough oil company roads outside of the only town.

00:38:26.180 It's about an hour away from the nearest grocery store.

00:38:29.380 So if your plan is to live out there in these conditions without water, without sewage, without

00:38:37.040 electricity, and you want to run for office...

00:38:39.740 How are they doing that?

00:38:41.380 Well, they, you know, they haul in water.

00:38:44.520 I think they have some generators out there.

00:38:47.560 They have some RVs that may have their own kind of, you know, temporary power systems.

00:38:52.380 But if your plan is to run for office and the primaries are not until March of next year,

00:38:59.840 that's quite a while to basically camp, you know, in some pretty harsh conditions.

00:39:05.160 So it may resolve itself, and people may, you know, people, as you pointed out, are coming

00:39:09.540 from cities and urban areas, and they may not be accustomed to the harsh conditions.

00:39:14.160 So it may resolve on its own.

00:39:15.960 There may be the authority of the government, you know, kind of pushing them out through

00:39:22.560 a variety of alleged broken laws.

00:39:26.500 And if that doesn't happen, then it'll be fascinating to see if they actually can win

00:39:31.920 office out there.

00:39:33.460 What are you working on next for this story?

00:39:36.400 I've been following up on the investigations that have been done by the, you know, as I said,

00:39:41.600 the attorney general, I'll be following up the district attorney out there, is also mounting

00:39:46.560 an investigation.

00:39:47.700 I'm trying to learn some more about Malcolm Tanner.

00:39:50.920 I'm trying to learn some more about the people who have moved out there and what their

00:39:54.960 backgrounds are.

00:39:56.860 And of course, we'll be following the elections, which, as I said, are always fascinating in

00:40:01.200 Levin County.

00:40:01.860 Almost every election there is challenged based on residency.

00:40:05.820 So it's a never-ending source of news, despite the small population.

00:40:10.440 You know what it reminds me of is the Old West.

00:40:14.820 I mean, this kind of stuff happened in the Old West, where the big, you know, the big

00:40:19.360 money would want to change a town, and they would bring people in, and they would change

00:40:24.420 it and control it.

00:40:25.280 I mean, it really harkens back to the 1800s in some ways, doesn't it?

00:40:30.080 Yeah.

00:40:30.580 I mean, there is an element of, you know, kind of being isolated way out there in the middle

00:40:34.500 of nowhere in West Texas.

00:40:36.440 I mean, even the names of the people, you know, the old-time sheriff, who is the patriarch

00:40:41.460 of the kind of powerful family there.

00:40:43.700 His name was Punk, and the current county judge's name is Skeet.

00:40:50.160 And yeah, it's a very kind of, it's a place of rugged individuals.

00:40:55.880 And I won't say lawlessness, but definitely, you know, it's out there.

00:41:01.080 Yeah, it's out there.

00:41:02.140 Eric, thank you so much.

00:41:03.180 I appreciate it, and keep us up to speed on this.

00:41:05.720 We'll be following your stories.

00:41:06.860 Houston Chronicle investigative reporter, Erica Dexheimer, following what's happening in

00:41:13.340 Loving County, Texas.

00:41:14.900 It is so weird, Stu.

00:41:16.540 All the things that are happening in Texas, where they are doing everything they can to

00:41:21.780 take Texas and flip it blue.

00:41:23.940 And I'm not convinced that that's what this is.

00:41:26.280 No.

00:41:26.560 You know, I don't know what this is, but it is, it's weird.

00:41:32.100 It's really, really weird.

00:41:33.840 Yeah, it reminds me of Wild Wild Country, the documentary on Netflix.

00:41:38.440 It was a series that came out a few years ago where it was a story of, I can't remember

00:41:42.340 the name of the group off the top of my head, but they went into Washington or Oregon and

00:41:46.100 tried to take over a town, like the 70s or 80s, maybe.

00:41:50.440 By the way, an incredible documentary, if you've never seen it.

00:41:55.340 Incredible documentary.

00:41:56.160 It's just an insane story.

00:41:56.960 It seems like groups do this every once in a while.

00:41:59.320 Someone, you know, with a big ego or, you know, someone would accuse some of these groups

00:42:04.040 as cultish-type behavior, like just move into areas and just take them over and try to take

00:42:09.460 over the town council and everything else so they can, you know, run their little thing

00:42:14.800 the way they want to run it.

00:42:16.860 I'm always fascinated by those stories.

00:42:18.540 Yeah, I'm not sure what this one is, but people are comparing this with Elon Musk.

00:42:22.620 What's the problem?

00:42:23.160 Elon Musk did this.

00:42:24.080 No, Elon Musk was creating thousands of jobs.

00:42:27.860 Elon Musk wasn't like, I'm going to build you a house and send you $5,000 and you don't

00:42:31.400 do anything for it.

00:42:33.020 That's not what Elon Musk, and sending you into a trailer with no services whatsoever.

00:42:38.380 I mean, his town is going to be a model town, already is a model town in Texas.

00:42:45.380 He's creating something and creating jobs.

00:42:47.840 There's a purpose for people to move there.

00:42:50.520 Here, there is no seeming purpose.

00:42:52.420 If you've never been to West Texas, imagine the moon if it was a lot closer to the sun.

00:43:02.120 I mean, a lot closer to the sun.

00:43:05.320 That is West Texas.

00:43:07.320 There, you know, you're in for quite a surprise if you've never been to West Texas and you're

00:43:11.960 like, I'm moving to West Texas.

00:43:14.020 Oh, good luck with that.

00:43:15.840 Good luck with that.

00:43:17.640 It takes, um, it takes real pioneers to do that.

00:43:21.360 Na, na, na, na, na.

00:43:24.420 Oh, and I got to have to have a full moon.

00:43:25.700 Come, have to have aği. 0.99

00:43:29.460 I like the beautiful moon.

00:43:30.920 I like the beautiful moon.

00:43:31.780 I like the-

00:43:33.040 It makes the guten Μers and the night is the most beautiful moon.

00:43:34.900 I like the beautiful moon and all course and will say.

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