The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Lara Logan & Rep. Chris Stewart ｜ 1⧸8⧸20

00:00:00.000 Hey America, welcome to the program today. Big day for the podcast all about Iran and even at the end, both Stu and I agree. It was a good day. Good day for America. Today, things could change if there's a dirty bomb in Chicago or something like that. But it's been the best case scenario. 1.00

00:00:19.800 But the press just cannot admit that. Laura Logan is on with us and she'll talk about what's really happening on the ground over there. We talked to one of the guys who was probably in with the president last night talking about what to do next. We go over the president's address so much. Today, you don't want to miss a second of the podcast.

00:00:49.800 All right. I have been watching Iran for at least 15 years. Full disclosure, I was for the Iraqi war and I was for it because I believed it was an attempt to pop the head of the snake, 1.00

00:01:17.800 which is Iran. Iran is the real problem in the Middle East. It causes much of our problems. It is a backward society that has destroyed the Persian culture and has destroyed the people of Iran. 1.00

00:01:35.300 And even those who were part of the revolution didn't want what they have. Millions are marching in the streets, risking their lives. You don't see it because our press doesn't go to Iran.

00:01:52.640 Our press doesn't care to show it. Our press decides to go to Iran when there are millions of Americans or millions of Iranians shouting death to America. 0.96

00:02:05.300 Soleimani. Soleimani was a brutal hydric. He was a brutal mastermind of terror all over the Middle East, responsible for at least 600 deaths of U.S. soldiers. 0.98

00:02:28.300 But beyond that, he was a torturer. He was a madman. He was as sick as any of the Nazis were.

00:02:43.280 And so we killed him. Now, we call it an assassination. I guess the media does, because it was precision.

00:02:54.000 So we didn't blow up a lot of people. Oh, my gosh. Now we're assassinating. We were being precise.

00:03:03.860 Isn't that what the world begged us to do? Wasn't that the last problem? We just lob a missile over there, not even knowing who we're going to hit.

00:03:12.080 And we could hit innocent children and babies and puppy dogs.

00:03:15.940 And so we spent a ton of money to make sure that it hits the target we were looking for.

00:03:24.320 And that's not good enough now.

00:03:28.080 But it was the right thing to do.

00:03:31.120 Now, I since have come back on my position on Iraq.

00:03:38.060 Because that's not what we were trying to do.

00:03:42.240 We were trying to nation build.

00:03:44.400 And our nation building has got us into almost all of the trouble that we have, that we're experiencing right now.

00:03:52.000 I mean, when we were humble,

00:03:56.160 when we were a nation that was paying attention to just our problems,

00:04:01.820 the world loved us.

00:04:03.700 France gave us a giant present called the Statue of Liberty.

00:04:09.200 Do you see any nation in the world giving us a present like that today?

00:04:14.740 No.

00:04:16.280 Why?

00:04:20.700 The Statue of Liberty was to show them,

00:04:23.560 to show the people of Paris,

00:04:25.340 not America, 0.60

00:04:26.480 show the people of Paris

00:04:27.700 what could be done

00:04:29.560 if you get everybody into the boat.

00:04:31.580 That's the same thing with the

00:04:33.980 with the Washington Crossing the Delaware painting.

00:04:37.060 That was a German painting,

00:04:38.640 not meant for us.

00:04:40.320 We have the copy.

00:04:43.700 The original burned to the ground in World War II

00:04:46.920 as the Allies bombed Berlin.

00:04:49.500 When we pay attention

00:04:56.120 and we are humble

00:04:57.740 and we stay out of everybody's business,

00:05:00.560 we make a big impact

00:05:02.440 because we lead by example.

00:05:06.960 Teddy Roosevelt changed all of that.

00:05:10.020 And everything that Eisenhower told us

00:05:12.700 we should look out for,

00:05:15.300 we made a choice in the 1950s after the war.

00:05:18.300 We now have to have a standing army.

00:05:21.080 We never had one before World War II.

00:05:24.140 We have to have a standing army

00:05:25.760 because now the world could be vaporized overnight.

00:05:29.520 War happens too fast.

00:05:31.180 There's no chance to be prepared for it

00:05:33.820 if you're not prepared all the time.

00:05:37.260 But when they made that decision,

00:05:39.080 he warned us.

00:05:40.040 A military guy warned us.

00:05:42.000 There's just going to be a war machine now 0.91

00:05:45.520 that wants war.

00:05:47.320 There's going to be a war machine 0.82

00:05:48.740 in our Congress,

00:05:50.520 in our White House,

00:05:52.000 in our State Department.

00:05:54.780 And what's worse

00:05:56.020 is America is now going to start

00:05:58.300 funding our universities.

00:05:59.680 And so those universities

00:06:01.440 will also be indoctrination camps.

00:06:04.800 So he warned in 1959,

00:06:08.960 look out,

00:06:10.820 pay attention,

00:06:12.540 stay awake.

00:06:13.940 Well, we didn't.

00:06:16.460 And we have been on this foreign adventure forever.

00:06:19.960 And it's time for it to stop.

00:06:24.980 Now, how do I square this

00:06:26.680 with a long record on Iran?

00:06:29.900 Iran is filled with things

00:06:33.280 that people that are called Twelvers.

00:06:35.340 They were so crazy

00:06:36.800 that even the Ayatollah Khamenei

00:06:39.880 during the revolution

00:06:41.500 said, by the way,

00:06:42.700 we got to get rid of all the Twelvers 1.00

00:06:44.080 because they're nuts. 0.59

00:06:46.840 That's how nuts they are.

00:06:48.840 They were too nuts

00:06:50.040 for the Ayatollah Khamenei.

00:06:52.820 Now, those same Twelvers 1.00

00:06:55.100 are the ones that are leading

00:06:56.500 the Supreme Council.

00:06:57.660 They include people like Soleimani.

00:07:01.800 And they are true believers,

00:07:04.200 hardline believers,

00:07:06.020 of wash the world in blood. 0.74

00:07:11.020 Now, let me talk to you

00:07:13.100 about the Iranian people.

00:07:15.360 The Iranian people are no different 1.00

00:07:17.200 than the people here in America.

00:07:19.300 There are those

00:07:20.060 that are part of the hardline.

00:07:22.160 Those that believe that.

00:07:24.040 Those that last night were going,

00:07:25.680 wait, more, more, more.

00:07:27.660 But the vast majority

00:07:31.420 are the people who are saying,

00:07:34.160 wait a minute,

00:07:34.580 why are we on these foreign adventures?

00:07:36.340 They keep getting us into trouble.

00:07:38.020 If we would just mind our own business,

00:07:41.220 why are we spending

00:07:43.100 a billion dollars a month

00:07:44.600 on the Quds Force with Soleimani?

00:07:47.700 A billion dollars a month.

00:07:49.140 Bread is 70% higher

00:07:51.620 and more expensive

00:07:52.980 than it was

00:07:53.720 just a couple of months ago.

00:07:54.920 And you're sending

00:07:56.440 all of this money

00:07:57.500 for what?

00:08:02.460 So let's not lose sight

00:08:04.140 that people are people.

00:08:07.800 Let's not lose sight

00:08:09.020 for those of us

00:08:09.700 who are old enough

00:08:10.440 to remember

00:08:10.940 when the Iron Curtain

00:08:12.140 came down,

00:08:12.900 we found out

00:08:13.560 that the Russian people

00:08:14.860 were not our enemy.

00:08:16.780 It was the government.

00:08:18.120 And the government

00:08:20.120 was the enemy

00:08:21.060 of the people.

00:08:27.760 Last night,

00:08:29.400 the best case scenario

00:08:32.340 happened.

00:08:36.460 Iran attacked 1.00

00:08:37.820 our embassy.

00:08:40.160 We cannot allow people 1.00

00:08:44.900 to attack our embassies.

00:08:47.740 Iran, especially,

00:08:49.140 they have a history of it.

00:08:50.240 1979.

00:08:51.880 They took everybody hostage

00:08:53.480 for over a year.

00:08:58.360 And then coincidentally,

00:09:00.000 they were all released

00:09:02.640 the day Reagan

00:09:03.460 raised his hand

00:09:04.620 and took command.

00:09:05.560 Last night,

00:09:11.300 Iran responded

00:09:13.780 to us killing

00:09:15.300 Soleimani,

00:09:16.760 a guy who is

00:09:17.780 clearly

00:09:18.720 a very bad guy,

00:09:20.900 a guy that I would

00:09:21.820 compare to

00:09:22.780 to Heydrich

00:09:24.060 or Himmler.

00:09:28.560 We took him out

00:09:30.000 because he killed

00:09:30.920 at least 600

00:09:32.420 of our soldiers

00:09:33.300 and he has been

00:09:34.520 torturing his way

00:09:35.960 to success

00:09:36.900 all over the Middle East.

00:09:39.300 I know.

00:09:41.040 We were there.

00:09:42.920 We met with

00:09:44.060 some of the families

00:09:45.180 that his people,

00:09:46.720 his Kudzforce,

00:09:47.680 had killed

00:09:48.520 and tortured.

00:09:50.780 We met with

00:09:51.680 one family

00:09:52.380 whose mom

00:09:55.160 was killed

00:09:56.060 in front of

00:09:57.020 the two children

00:09:57.860 and the dad

00:09:58.620 and as if

00:09:59.360 that wasn't enough,

00:10:00.560 they took the

00:10:01.140 six-year-old boy

00:10:02.180 and took out

00:10:03.380 drills

00:10:04.260 and drilled

00:10:05.420 holes in

00:10:06.640 his legs.

00:10:07.920 He still

00:10:08.760 can't walk.

00:10:10.520 That's who

00:10:11.180 Soleimani was.

00:10:12.620 I have no problem

00:10:14.100 taking him out.

00:10:16.480 It was the right

00:10:17.700 thing to do.

00:10:19.860 But the press

00:10:21.180 and the left

00:10:22.160 just wring

00:10:24.120 their hands

00:10:25.080 all night.

00:10:25.640 Oh my gosh,

00:10:26.540 what's going to happen?

00:10:27.480 This is World War III.

00:10:28.940 There's going to be

00:10:29.500 a draft.

00:10:30.300 And I told you

00:10:33.860 Monday,

00:10:34.400 relax.

00:10:35.380 There's not going

00:10:36.020 to be a draft.

00:10:38.160 This could turn

00:10:39.280 into World War III,

00:10:40.400 but I don't think

00:10:41.080 so.

00:10:42.580 This is our best

00:10:43.760 option at this

00:10:44.780 point.

00:10:45.340 What happened

00:10:46.060 last night

00:10:46.780 was the best

00:10:47.920 case scenario.

00:10:50.640 They lobbed

00:10:51.620 missiles over.

00:10:53.140 They were not

00:10:53.740 cruise missiles.

00:10:55.680 Cruise missiles

00:10:56.880 are accurate.

00:10:58.660 Cruise missiles

00:10:59.420 get the job

00:11:00.500 done.

00:11:01.580 Cruise missiles,

00:11:02.660 as they used

00:11:04.200 in Saudi Arabia

00:11:05.680 to take out

00:11:06.400 their oil fields,

00:11:07.900 those cruise

00:11:08.620 missiles went

00:11:09.540 a lot farther

00:11:10.560 in Saudi Arabia.

00:11:12.180 They went from

00:11:12.880 Iran to Saudi

00:11:14.000 Arabia to the 0.77

00:11:14.820 oil fields,

00:11:15.500 and if you look

00:11:15.960 at the pictures,

00:11:16.980 they hit dead

00:11:18.180 center all of

00:11:19.220 their targets.

00:11:20.780 What they

00:11:21.080 launched last

00:11:23.000 night was a

00:11:24.100 missile.

00:11:25.240 What they

00:11:25.600 launched last

00:11:26.420 night was

00:11:28.100 not a threat.

00:11:29.760 I don't even

00:11:30.660 think they

00:11:31.180 were fully

00:11:31.640 loaded.

00:11:34.880 Several

00:11:35.480 duds, and

00:11:37.220 none of them

00:11:38.000 hit their

00:11:38.420 target.

00:11:41.020 Now, why

00:11:41.840 is that?

00:11:42.640 Are they just

00:11:43.200 incompetent?

00:11:44.740 Are we so

00:11:45.840 arrogant to

00:11:46.500 think that

00:11:46.900 they're so far

00:11:47.780 behind us that

00:11:49.260 they can't even

00:11:50.120 hit across their

00:11:51.760 own border

00:11:52.460 accurately?

00:11:54.100 Of course

00:11:55.040 they can.

00:11:56.420 Of course

00:11:57.340 they can.

00:11:58.720 This was

00:11:59.400 them trying

00:12:00.200 to save

00:12:00.880 face last

00:12:01.880 night with

00:12:02.760 their hardliners.

00:12:04.060 Now, I'll

00:12:04.320 tell you more

00:12:05.340 as we go.

00:12:06.060 This isn't

00:12:06.500 going to

00:12:06.760 work, but

00:12:09.120 that's what

00:12:09.640 they did, and

00:12:10.980 they immediately

00:12:12.040 went to the

00:12:12.820 U.N.

00:12:13.060 and said,

00:12:13.440 we're not

00:12:13.740 wanting war.

00:12:14.940 We just

00:12:15.200 wanted to

00:12:15.560 retaliate for

00:12:16.260 that strike 0.96

00:12:16.840 on Soleimani.

00:12:18.800 We're not

00:12:19.380 looking for

00:12:19.760 war.

00:12:20.420 They immediately

00:12:21.380 said a press

00:12:22.080 release, this

00:12:22.700 is it.

00:12:23.700 This is all

00:12:24.100 we're going

00:12:24.380 to do.

00:12:26.640 That's

00:12:27.120 signaling, we

00:12:28.840 just need to

00:12:29.420 save face, leave

00:12:30.460 us alone.

00:12:31.020 We're not

00:12:31.340 going to kill

00:12:31.760 any of your

00:12:32.180 people.

00:12:33.000 Now, luckily,

00:12:33.420 we have a

00:12:33.960 president who

00:12:35.140 no matter

00:12:35.500 what anyone

00:12:36.420 says, left

00:12:38.680 or right, is

00:12:40.040 not a

00:12:40.420 warmonger.

00:12:41.200 He's been

00:12:41.800 against these

00:12:42.540 wars his

00:12:43.660 whole life.

00:12:45.240 It's one

00:12:46.080 thing that he

00:12:46.960 really believes.

00:12:48.640 And his

00:12:49.360 doctrine, even

00:12:50.680 though it's

00:12:51.060 unspoken, is

00:12:52.000 if you

00:12:52.600 don't kill

00:12:53.040 any of

00:12:53.340 our guys, I'm

00:12:54.440 not going

00:12:54.920 to respond.

00:12:56.680 They took

00:12:57.120 down our

00:12:57.540 drone.

00:12:58.740 Many

00:12:59.120 presidents would

00:12:59.980 have responded.

00:13:00.920 He didn't.

00:13:02.620 Why would I

00:13:03.140 respond?

00:13:04.120 They didn't

00:13:04.520 kill any of

00:13:05.020 our people.

00:13:05.960 Taking a

00:13:06.680 drone out of

00:13:07.540 the sky, okay,

00:13:08.380 it's expensive,

00:13:09.220 but I'm not

00:13:09.560 going to kill

00:13:09.940 people for

00:13:10.980 that.

00:13:13.840 Donald Trump

00:13:14.620 doesn't want

00:13:15.320 war.

00:13:15.720 Donald Trump

00:13:16.160 wants to be

00:13:16.840 out of war.

00:13:18.960 Donald Trump

00:13:19.600 is an

00:13:19.960 American first.

00:13:22.000 like that or

00:13:23.460 hate that,

00:13:24.120 that's who

00:13:24.480 he is.

00:13:25.280 And it's

00:13:25.900 exactly the

00:13:26.760 right kind

00:13:27.280 of guy to

00:13:27.740 have in

00:13:28.240 today and

00:13:29.520 yesterday and

00:13:31.020 last week.

00:13:32.740 I don't know

00:13:33.540 if you watched

00:13:34.080 Fox News last

00:13:35.040 night, but it

00:13:35.700 was a horror

00:13:36.880 show.

00:13:38.740 If Donald

00:13:39.700 Trump listens

00:13:40.600 to the people

00:13:41.340 on Fox News,

00:13:43.140 if he listened

00:13:44.180 to them last

00:13:44.900 night, this

00:13:46.140 thing would, we 0.77

00:13:46.760 would be in

00:13:47.440 World War

00:13:47.880 Three today.

00:13:49.380 But he

00:13:50.060 didn't.

00:13:52.000 They were

00:13:53.040 calling for

00:13:53.780 crazy, take

00:13:55.460 out their

00:13:55.880 oil fields,

00:13:57.440 crazy stuff.

00:13:59.080 The minute we

00:14:00.160 heard that

00:14:01.160 there were no

00:14:01.920 casualties, go

00:14:04.340 to bed.

00:14:05.520 Go to bed.

00:14:13.460 Here's what

00:14:14.460 Trump has to

00:14:15.280 do.

00:14:15.560 Trump cannot

00:14:18.400 respond kinetically.

00:14:20.720 He cannot

00:14:21.220 respond with

00:14:22.140 military.

00:14:23.460 Cannot.

00:14:25.240 Donald Trump

00:14:26.360 cannot listen

00:14:27.480 to the voices

00:14:28.300 of the

00:14:29.720 hardliners on

00:14:31.340 Fox News.

00:14:32.840 He cannot.

00:14:36.620 Trump must

00:14:38.060 stick to his

00:14:38.860 red line of

00:14:40.080 American lives.

00:14:41.380 keep your

00:14:42.760 powder dry

00:14:43.740 and your

00:14:44.280 cyber weapons

00:14:45.940 dry as

00:14:46.760 well.

00:14:47.960 Continue to

00:14:48.780 weaken the

00:14:49.480 regime at

00:14:50.240 home in

00:14:50.880 Iraq.

00:14:51.700 Continue to

00:14:52.420 vocally support

00:14:53.700 the Iranian

00:14:54.340 people, the

00:14:56.340 ones who are

00:14:56.900 actually rising

00:14:57.920 up, and

00:15:00.060 then prepare

00:15:00.840 for a

00:15:01.360 non-military

00:15:02.140 strike on

00:15:02.920 U.S.

00:15:03.360 assets.

00:15:03.820 And I'll

00:15:04.040 explain that.

00:15:05.760 And the

00:15:07.120 hardliners in

00:15:08.620 both Iran

00:15:09.380 and the

00:15:10.220 hardliners,

00:15:11.420 including the

00:15:12.240 press and

00:15:12.900 the Democratic

00:15:13.480 Party, here

00:15:15.200 in America.

00:15:18.420 The best of

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00:15:26.840 Hey, it's Glenn,

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00:15:38.520 Laura Logan

00:15:39.100 who is, I

00:15:41.700 think, in

00:15:43.920 my mind, an

00:15:44.560 icon of

00:15:46.660 reporting and

00:15:48.320 what a news

00:15:48.980 journalist should

00:15:50.100 be.

00:15:51.000 She was with

00:15:51.920 60 Minutes and

00:15:53.160 CBS for years

00:15:54.420 and years.

00:15:54.920 She's won all

00:15:55.460 kinds of awards,

00:15:56.420 including the

00:15:56.860 Edward R.

00:15:57.320 Murrow Award,

00:15:58.420 for her

00:15:59.220 reporting and

00:16:00.380 her journalistic

00:16:01.100 integrity.

00:16:02.560 You might also

00:16:03.660 remember that

00:16:04.460 she was in

00:16:05.460 the crowd as

00:16:06.920 Egypt overthrew

00:16:09.360 Mubarak, and

00:16:11.280 it was brutal

00:16:13.500 for her.

00:16:14.540 I wanted to

00:16:15.080 talk to her a

00:16:15.920 little bit about

00:16:16.680 how the media

00:16:17.760 is handling all

00:16:19.120 of this and

00:16:20.720 her thoughts

00:16:21.720 right off the

00:16:22.240 top of her

00:16:22.660 head about

00:16:23.600 last night.

00:16:24.480 Laura, welcome

00:16:25.000 to the program.

00:16:26.740 Hey, Glenn,

00:16:27.460 thank you so

00:16:28.080 much for having

00:16:28.860 me on, and

00:16:29.520 thank you for

00:16:30.860 your very, very

00:16:31.820 kind introduction.

00:16:33.800 Well, I mean

00:16:36.000 every word of

00:16:36.500 it, Laura.

00:16:38.100 Can you tell

00:16:38.840 me what your

00:16:39.360 thoughts are on

00:16:40.120 how this has

00:16:40.740 played off from

00:16:41.900 the embassy

00:16:42.700 riot, which

00:16:44.120 was reminiscent

00:16:44.760 of 1979 or

00:16:46.240 probably closer

00:16:46.980 to Benghazi, to

00:16:48.720 killing Kassam,

00:16:50.600 to the response

00:16:51.440 last night?

00:16:53.940 Well, what's

00:16:54.700 very interesting

00:16:55.340 for me, you

00:16:56.000 know, having

00:16:56.320 spent many

00:16:57.260 years on the

00:16:58.280 ground in the

00:16:59.820 Palestinian

00:17:00.260 territories, in

00:17:01.140 Israel, in 0.59

00:17:01.880 Afghanistan, in

00:17:02.660 Syria, in

00:17:03.320 Jordan, five

00:17:04.020 years living

00:17:04.380 in Iraq, you

00:17:06.120 know, I've

00:17:06.360 traveled all

00:17:07.000 over Iraq, I've

00:17:09.600 been smuggled

00:17:10.160 into, you

00:17:10.880 know, insurgent

00:17:12.000 parts of Damascus

00:17:13.060 and all that

00:17:14.000 kind of stuff, and

00:17:14.780 so, you know,

00:17:16.180 what I'm always

00:17:18.040 struck by when I

00:17:20.280 see these events

00:17:22.360 unfolding is how

00:17:23.400 important the

00:17:24.500 context is for

00:17:26.320 the conversation,

00:17:27.280 because Persians,

00:17:28.640 if you spend any

00:17:29.340 time with Persians,

00:17:30.280 what you learn

00:17:31.020 about the

00:17:32.780 Persians and

00:17:33.420 Iran, you 0.99

00:17:34.300 know, Iranians

00:17:35.020 identify themselves

00:17:35.920 as Persians,

00:17:37.060 because it goes

00:17:37.720 back to the, you

00:17:38.500 know, the time of

00:17:40.320 the Persians, right,

00:17:41.220 when the Persians 0.98

00:17:41.800 ruled, and they

00:17:43.060 still see themselves

00:17:44.060 through that

00:17:44.500 prism, and what I

00:17:45.720 always try to do

00:17:46.460 is to look at the

00:17:47.280 world through their

00:17:48.480 eyes, so, you

00:17:49.720 know, same for the

00:17:50.580 Iraqis, same for 1.00

00:17:51.960 all the people in

00:17:52.820 the region who are

00:17:53.420 affected by this,

00:17:54.940 and the conversation

00:17:57.140 that's playing out in

00:17:57.920 the U.S.

00:17:58.680 seems, very often

00:17:59.900 feels like it's

00:18:00.600 devoid of that

00:18:01.560 kind of context,

00:18:02.620 right, because we

00:18:03.880 tend to look at

00:18:04.840 things only through

00:18:05.440 the prism of now,

00:18:07.080 and I've been, I've

00:18:09.180 been quite struck

00:18:10.360 for a long time by

00:18:12.940 the United States'

00:18:14.260 lack of action

00:18:15.320 towards Iran, you 0.98

00:18:16.480 know, when you're

00:18:16.900 on the Iraqi

00:18:18.400 battlefield year

00:18:19.460 after year after

00:18:20.240 year, and you see

00:18:21.560 Iran's role on the

00:18:23.680 battlefield escalating,

00:18:25.420 and the U.S.

00:18:26.060 not doing anything

00:18:27.100 over to counter it,

00:18:28.480 where all the U.S.

00:18:30.140 efforts to counter

00:18:31.320 Iran on the Iraqi 0.99

00:18:32.340 battlefield were

00:18:33.520 clandestine, right,

00:18:34.780 they were more

00:18:35.220 covert, and so

00:18:37.100 there's an inherent

00:18:37.940 dishonesty in all of

00:18:39.720 the reporting, because

00:18:40.840 we're still talking

00:18:41.540 about the Iraq wars,

00:18:42.760 if it was a war, you

00:18:44.040 know, between the U.S.

00:18:44.960 and Iraqi forces, but

00:18:46.700 who in this

00:18:47.620 conversation about

00:18:48.460 Qasem Soleimani is

00:18:49.380 asking why, why were

00:18:51.680 Iranian militias

00:18:52.680 killing American 1.00

00:18:53.440 soldiers on the

00:18:54.580 Iraqi battlefield?

00:18:55.960 Why were they there?

00:18:57.340 What was their

00:18:58.260 purpose?

00:18:59.080 What was their

00:18:59.500 justification?

00:19:00.760 What was their

00:19:01.320 motivation?

00:19:02.360 No one is asking

00:19:03.240 that.

00:19:03.860 No one's even

00:19:04.320 questioning that.

00:19:05.480 And no one is

00:19:05.980 talking about the

00:19:06.780 fact that the

00:19:08.040 Iraqis were 1.00

00:19:09.580 protesting, there

00:19:10.300 were mass protests

00:19:11.380 just a few weeks

00:19:12.220 ago, against the

00:19:13.820 Iranians that were

00:19:14.840 there.

00:19:15.340 The Iraqi people

00:19:16.200 do not want them

00:19:17.380 there.

00:19:20.040 All we hear about

00:19:21.100 is how they don't

00:19:21.660 want us there, but

00:19:23.380 we are protecting a

00:19:25.480 lot of the Iraqis 1.00

00:19:26.500 as well.

00:19:28.000 That's very true.

00:19:29.320 And of course, you

00:19:30.220 know, Iraq is a mix

00:19:31.340 of Sunni and of

00:19:32.880 Shia people, right? 0.98

00:19:34.000 And the Shia, you 1.00

00:19:35.280 know, like the

00:19:36.000 Iranians are Shia 0.99

00:19:36.920 right across the

00:19:37.580 border.

00:19:37.920 So there's their

00:19:38.780 loyalty and their

00:19:40.300 faith, you know, in

00:19:41.640 Shiite Islam, and

00:19:42.660 then there's their

00:19:43.320 national identity as

00:19:45.120 Iraqis.

00:19:45.700 And then, of course,

00:19:46.320 there are also

00:19:46.760 millions of Iraqis

00:19:47.820 who are mixed

00:19:48.640 Sunni and Shia,

00:19:49.700 right?

00:19:49.900 You might have a,

00:19:50.460 you know, a one

00:19:51.360 Sunni parent and one

00:19:52.420 Shiite parent.

00:19:53.300 And we act like

00:19:55.000 all of these people

00:19:55.700 are a monolithic

00:19:56.660 entity that all

00:19:57.580 agree with each

00:19:58.320 other.

00:19:58.600 And what we leave

00:19:59.700 out of this

00:20:00.260 conversation are,

00:20:01.260 for example, all

00:20:02.260 the Iraqis who

00:20:03.020 used to say to

00:20:03.640 me, this person

00:20:04.980 is not Iraqi.

00:20:06.060 And I used to

00:20:06.680 say, well, what do

00:20:07.140 you mean?

00:20:07.640 They're not Iraqi. 0.98

00:20:08.420 They're born in

00:20:08.960 Iraq.

00:20:09.600 They're Iraqi

00:20:10.180 citizens.

00:20:10.660 And they say,

00:20:11.380 yes, but they

00:20:12.260 have Iranian blood 0.98

00:20:13.620 running in their

00:20:14.300 veins, which was

00:20:14.980 the Iraqi way of

00:20:15.920 saying their real

00:20:17.340 loyalty is to Shiite 0.83

00:20:20.120 Iran across the

00:20:21.160 border.

00:20:21.720 And their real

00:20:22.760 loyalty is not to

00:20:24.020 us.

00:20:24.460 It's not to Iraq.

00:20:26.840 And that was very,

00:20:28.420 very interesting for

00:20:29.340 me because you look

00:20:30.200 at someone like

00:20:30.780 Qasem Soleimani, he

00:20:32.120 was Iraqi.

00:20:33.660 He was born in

00:20:34.400 Iraq.

00:20:35.700 Mohandas, the Iraqi 0.98

00:20:37.100 commander who died

00:20:37.940 with him, he's another

00:20:39.200 one that they said to

00:20:40.100 me has Iranian blood

00:20:41.060 in his veins.

00:20:42.500 You know, and Al-Amari,

00:20:44.620 the head of the

00:20:45.100 Barakor, who's now

00:20:45.820 replaced Mohandas, who's

00:20:48.440 now the most powerful

00:20:49.460 Iranian ally in Iraq.

00:20:52.260 He also, he fled

00:20:53.880 Iraq decades ago, and

00:20:55.580 he lived in Iran, and

00:20:57.500 really was trained by

00:20:58.700 Iran.

00:20:59.600 And when Saddam fell, 0.85

00:21:01.820 the Iranians sent him 0.99

00:21:02.700 back into Iraq, and he 0.62

00:21:04.300 was tasked by Qasem

00:21:06.080 Soleimani to hunt down 1.00

00:21:07.620 every Iraqi pilot and

00:21:09.720 significant, you know,

00:21:11.440 commander from the

00:21:12.320 Iran-Iraq war and

00:21:13.560 kill them. 0.54

00:21:14.460 And in fact, I sat

00:21:15.400 down in an interview

00:21:16.200 with him a few years

00:21:17.520 ago for 60 Minutes,

00:21:18.460 and I read to him

00:21:19.520 an American diplomatic

00:21:21.820 cable that was signed

00:21:23.500 off, altered and

00:21:24.480 signed off on by the

00:21:25.860 U.S.

00:21:26.220 Embassy and by the U.S.

00:21:27.340 Ambassador and sent to

00:21:28.420 Washington.

00:21:29.480 And, you know, I've

00:21:30.380 never forgotten what it

00:21:31.440 said, which was this,

00:21:34.760 you know, that the U.S.

00:21:37.400 Embassy and the military

00:21:39.440 believe that Al-Amari was

00:21:42.500 responsible for personally

00:21:44.420 murdering two and a half

00:21:46.560 thousand Iraqi Sunnis, and

00:21:49.260 that his preferred method

00:21:50.780 of killing was to

00:21:52.400 personally drill holes in

00:21:54.540 their heads while they

00:21:55.500 were still alive.

00:21:56.660 Okay, this is the man,

00:21:58.780 this is the man that was

00:22:00.500 trained by Iran, that is

00:22:02.260 one of their most important

00:22:03.840 lieutenants and allies

00:22:05.480 inside Iraq.

00:22:06.980 Okay, these are the people

00:22:08.160 that we're talking about.

00:22:09.240 So what about all the

00:22:10.720 funerals of all the people

00:22:12.800 who died at the hands of

00:22:14.360 Qasem Soleimani and his

00:22:15.800 proxy forces and his

00:22:16.900 commanders and under his

00:22:18.380 orders and with the

00:22:19.360 blessing and authority and

00:22:20.920 funding and training, right?

00:22:22.600 What about all those

00:22:23.820 people?

00:22:24.740 And what about the

00:22:25.920 Iraqis who were

00:22:26.640 celebrating his death?

00:22:28.140 What about Syrians who 0.68

00:22:29.240 were celebrating, Yemenis

00:22:30.760 who were celebrating?

00:22:31.860 An Iraqi I spoke to in

00:22:33.120 Baghdad, you know, a

00:22:34.260 couple times over the last

00:22:35.240 few days said to me that

00:22:36.740 every Iraqi in San 0.83

00:22:38.240 Diego who, you know, is

00:22:40.360 now able to vote in the

00:22:41.980 U.S. is voting for Trump

00:22:43.420 in the next election

00:22:44.560 because they're so happy

00:22:46.960 that he killed Qasem

00:22:48.340 Soleimani.

00:22:49.040 And that's just a voice.

00:22:51.420 It's one part of the

00:22:52.500 story that you're not

00:22:53.880 hearing a whole lot

00:22:55.720 about, sometimes not at

00:22:57.040 all.

00:22:57.440 Laurie, you're also not

00:22:58.860 hearing the voice of the

00:23:01.020 Iranians, the millions that 1.00

00:23:03.220 are risking their life to

00:23:04.540 stand up, and the millions

00:23:06.460 of people that are, I

00:23:08.660 think, in many ways, just

00:23:09.860 like Americans. 0.67

00:23:10.940 Their inflation has gone

00:23:13.200 through the roof, and

00:23:14.520 they're looking at a

00:23:15.680 billion dollars a month

00:23:16.820 going to the Quds 0.66

00:23:17.620 Force and the IRGC, and

00:23:20.280 they're saying, I don't

00:23:21.360 want any part of this

00:23:22.280 anymore.

00:23:23.260 This is just causing us

00:23:24.660 more trouble, and they

00:23:26.220 want out.

00:23:27.360 They want relief from

00:23:28.640 this.

00:23:29.320 And no media source that

00:23:31.040 I know of is covering

00:23:32.460 that.

00:23:33.000 That's, well, I would

00:23:35.380 agree with you on that,

00:23:37.220 that no media source is

00:23:38.520 covering that part of the

00:23:39.820 story, too.

00:23:40.400 Those people are

00:23:41.560 completely left out of

00:23:42.920 this conversation.

00:23:44.300 And not only that, but

00:23:46.920 some of those people,

00:23:47.920 their voices are left out

00:23:49.440 because they're dead,

00:23:51.140 right?

00:23:51.540 I mean, the Green

00:23:52.340 Movement, who remembers

00:23:53.340 the Green Movement?

00:23:54.640 There's been, you know,

00:23:55.860 really two significant

00:23:57.280 protest movements that have

00:23:59.320 risen up in Iran to the 0.96

00:24:01.060 level where they haven't

00:24:02.820 been able to hide their

00:24:04.100 existence, right?

00:24:05.140 Because we, you know, I'm

00:24:06.420 always very, very cautious

00:24:08.120 about speaking about what,

00:24:10.540 you know, Iranian people

00:24:11.600 and what they want and how

00:24:12.700 they feel and what the

00:24:13.640 situation is, because we

00:24:15.100 know so little, right?

00:24:16.680 It's very hard to function

00:24:18.400 and operate in Iran.

00:24:20.440 You do not get access to

00:24:22.120 that country as a journalist

00:24:23.400 or as an outsider unless the

00:24:26.040 regime, you know,

00:24:27.340 authorized, specifically

00:24:28.500 authorizes you to do so.

00:24:30.140 And when they do that,

00:24:31.700 they have a specific

00:24:32.780 purpose.

00:24:33.760 There's a reason they let

00:24:34.940 you come in.

00:24:35.780 And they control what you

00:24:36.920 see.

00:24:37.340 They control who you speak 0.89

00:24:38.460 to.

00:24:39.000 They control what people

00:24:40.140 say because people self-censor.

00:24:42.500 They're so afraid, they

00:24:43.580 self-censor.

00:24:44.300 So really accurate

00:24:45.600 assessments over, you know,

00:24:47.100 how the majority of people

00:24:50.140 feel.

00:24:50.720 I can tell you what

00:24:51.400 individuals feel because I

00:24:52.600 can, you know, I can from

00:24:53.740 time to time speak to

00:24:54.680 individuals and often in

00:24:56.900 situations where I can at

00:24:58.580 least have a high degree of

00:24:59.780 confidence that I'm not

00:25:00.780 being, you know, lied to,

00:25:02.380 right?

00:25:03.160 But what we're not hearing,

00:25:06.300 but what the Iranians could

00:25:07.420 not hide, they could not

00:25:08.780 hide the Green Movement.

00:25:10.000 They could not hide some of

00:25:11.260 these mass protests.

00:25:13.020 And what we do know is that

00:25:15.240 those protest movements were

00:25:16.720 brutally, brutally

00:25:18.560 suppressed.

00:25:19.800 I mean, you know, hundreds of

00:25:21.280 people were disappeared,

00:25:23.260 tortured, imprisoned,

00:25:24.920 murdered, right?

00:25:26.120 And who was responsible for

00:25:28.240 making that happen?

00:25:29.460 I mean, the IRGC, the

00:25:30.740 Quds Force, Qasem Soleimani,

00:25:32.500 these people, yes, he was

00:25:33.980 loved by many people in

00:25:35.660 Iran, but he was also

00:25:36.900 feared and he was also

00:25:38.380 hated.

00:25:39.360 And those voices are, you

00:25:41.720 know, they're completely and

00:25:43.460 utterly written out of the

00:25:45.720 current narrative.

00:25:47.380 Lara Logan, I'd like to

00:25:49.120 continue with you.

00:25:49.780 I'm going to take a quick

00:25:50.440 one-minute break and then I'd

00:25:51.600 like to come back and talk a

00:25:53.340 little bit about the media

00:25:55.180 coverage here on how

00:25:59.740 distorted it is and MSNBC last

00:26:02.680 night running the state

00:26:04.440 television from Iran and then

00:26:06.860 taking their word for how many

00:26:08.560 Americans had been killed, 0.98

00:26:10.120 which we now know is zero,

00:26:12.360 and what the motivation is.

00:26:14.560 What does the average

00:26:16.860 American take from this

00:26:20.060 media today?

00:26:22.140 Back in just a second with

00:26:23.980 Lara Logan.

00:26:26.260 Lara Logan is with us and I

00:26:30.740 don't want to dwell on this at

00:26:32.400 all, but I couldn't help but

00:26:34.100 see the ABC reporter in the

00:26:37.680 crowd in Iran, you know,

00:26:40.160 wearing her headscarf and

00:26:41.400 everything else and thinking

00:26:43.700 she's in real danger because

00:26:47.220 those crowds can change as you

00:26:49.020 found in in Egypt.

00:26:51.080 How much danger was she in

00:26:53.420 yesterday and what kind of deal

00:26:55.820 had to be made for her to have

00:26:59.320 that kind of coverage?

00:27:01.120 And is it responsible?

00:27:03.860 Well, you know, I think it's I

00:27:06.240 think it's unfair to ask if it's

00:27:08.220 responsible just in the sense

00:27:10.060 that, you know, our job as

00:27:11.760 reporters is to try to tell,

00:27:14.660 you know, every side of the

00:27:15.920 story.

00:27:16.400 And if I was still an evening

00:27:18.620 news reporter, you know, CBS

00:27:20.120 news, foreign news reporter, I

00:27:21.900 would have been I would have

00:27:23.520 loved to have been on the

00:27:24.600 ground in Iran and be in

00:27:25.780 Martha Raddatz's shoes and be 0.89

00:27:27.460 reporting from the ground.

00:27:28.440 And and I do have enormous

00:27:30.260 respect for Martha.

00:27:31.400 And I know her personally and

00:27:32.720 you know, I like her a lot.

00:27:34.080 But having said that, I mean,

00:27:36.460 I would say to you that you're

00:27:38.780 right in any crowd, in any

00:27:40.540 emotional situation like that,

00:27:42.040 there's always a risk.

00:27:43.340 Right.

00:27:43.660 No question about it.

00:27:45.040 But let's not forget that Iran 0.77

00:27:46.800 is not the average.

00:27:48.720 It's not the average country.

00:27:50.260 It's not like the U.S. 0.96

00:27:51.880 I mean, everything is very

00:27:54.700 carefully stage managed.

00:27:56.360 Now, you always have the risk

00:27:57.700 that, you know, you could be

00:27:58.580 caught up in the stampede.

00:27:59.800 Right.

00:28:00.240 Things can boil over like that.

00:28:02.380 But and there's always a risk

00:28:04.620 that if they that they allow

00:28:06.460 you to be targeted, but

00:28:08.140 things do not happen on the

00:28:09.880 ground in countries like that

00:28:11.120 most of the time without being

00:28:13.280 orchestrated.

00:28:14.380 So when the Iranian government

00:28:15.520 says, OK, yes, you're approved

00:28:17.040 and you can come in, you know,

00:28:18.400 you've got a minder with you

00:28:19.500 all the time.

00:28:20.760 This person is monitoring

00:28:21.880 every single thing you get.

00:28:23.160 You say there.

00:28:24.180 We call them minders.

00:28:25.100 But let's be honest.

00:28:25.880 They're a mohavarat 1.00

00:28:26.720 intelligence agents.

00:28:27.760 Right.

00:28:28.320 They're spies and they're

00:28:29.580 reporting on everything you say

00:28:30.880 and everything you do.

00:28:31.900 And every person you speak to,

00:28:33.500 every Iranian you interview 0.69

00:28:34.740 knows that that person

00:28:36.080 is standing right there.

00:28:37.340 Right.

00:28:38.060 So those and, you know,

00:28:39.760 sure, it was like that in Iraq

00:28:41.220 under Saddam Hussein.

00:28:42.140 I mean, it was like that in Syria 0.94

00:28:43.620 under Assad.

00:28:44.740 You know, I've done that many

00:28:45.780 times.

00:28:46.160 So I'm not criticizing

00:28:47.380 Martha for that.

00:28:48.520 What I would say is that

00:28:49.760 there's there's very little

00:28:51.360 context.

00:28:52.080 They're not giving any context

00:28:54.040 in the reporting.

00:28:55.500 And that's the problem

00:28:56.340 that I have with this.

00:28:57.640 I applaud her for being on

00:28:59.440 the ground and I applaud her

00:29:00.700 for being there.

00:29:01.620 And I would love to be

00:29:02.460 in her shoes.

00:29:04.020 But at the same time,

00:29:05.640 where is the you know,

00:29:06.860 where is the that little bit

00:29:08.220 of distance?

00:29:09.040 You know, what we have to do

00:29:09.940 is report is we have to be

00:29:11.440 right in that moment

00:29:12.700 and be emotional

00:29:13.960 and live it

00:29:15.000 and bring it to life

00:29:16.220 for the viewer.

00:29:16.760 Right.

00:29:16.960 And bring you right there.

00:29:18.080 But then we also have

00:29:19.040 another job.

00:29:19.880 Our other responsibility

00:29:20.840 is to take a little step

00:29:22.560 away from it and say,

00:29:23.640 OK, what's the broader

00:29:24.640 context?

00:29:25.200 And I used to argue

00:29:26.460 with U.S. soldiers

00:29:27.280 all the time.

00:29:27.980 Right.

00:29:28.120 Because I contrary

00:29:29.120 to what people say,

00:29:30.060 I didn't live with

00:29:30.880 U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

00:29:31.800 I lived with Iraqi people.

00:29:33.540 And when I would go

00:29:34.060 to the bases with them,

00:29:35.320 you know, and they would say,

00:29:36.700 well, you report is

00:29:37.340 never till I'll so.

00:29:38.120 You never do this.

00:29:38.820 You never do that.

00:29:39.540 You're so biased.

00:29:40.760 And I would say, look,

00:29:41.840 I mean, it's great

00:29:42.680 that you've employed

00:29:43.460 this, you know, 50 people

00:29:44.860 and you've built this well

00:29:45.780 and there's water

00:29:46.720 in the village.

00:29:47.300 But like, you know,

00:29:48.680 what has this done

00:29:49.980 to move the needle

00:29:50.620 for unemployment

00:29:51.220 in the country as a whole?

00:29:52.400 How many Iraqis today,

00:29:54.280 how many more have access

00:29:55.240 to clean drinking

00:29:55.780 than what it didn't before?

00:29:56.740 Oh, yes, they all

00:29:57.440 they did before.

00:29:58.520 In fact, you know,

00:29:59.440 the infrastructure

00:29:59.980 has been destroyed

00:30:00.640 and now fewer people

00:30:01.620 have it today.

00:30:02.660 You know, I used to explain

00:30:04.020 to them that there's

00:30:05.120 a context in which

00:30:06.180 you're operating

00:30:07.020 and I have dual

00:30:08.740 responsibilities to you,

00:30:10.460 to the Iraqis,

00:30:11.380 to the taxpayers back home,

00:30:12.980 to the government

00:30:13.480 that sent you here,

00:30:14.940 to the military

00:30:16.220 that's trying to manage

00:30:17.160 these operations.

00:30:18.260 All of these

00:30:18.840 responsibilities compete

00:30:20.300 and they're all equal.

00:30:21.640 And I have to be,

00:30:22.840 you know,

00:30:23.000 try to be fair

00:30:23.720 to, you know,

00:30:25.340 to everybody

00:30:26.000 so I don't just get

00:30:27.620 to tell your story

00:30:28.720 and not bother

00:30:29.660 about the context.

00:30:31.060 And that's what I feel

00:30:31.860 is happening

00:30:32.760 in some of the reporting

00:30:34.440 that I've seen

00:30:35.020 from the ground there.

00:30:35.960 It's all about

00:30:36.500 one perspective

00:30:37.660 and there's no real

00:30:39.100 distance to it.

00:30:40.200 There's no, like,

00:30:41.220 you know,

00:30:41.460 nobody's putting it

00:30:42.180 in context and saying,

00:30:43.160 hey, wait a minute,

00:30:43.900 you know,

00:30:44.600 wait a minute.

00:30:45.500 It's like,

00:30:46.160 they were chanting

00:30:47.460 death to America

00:30:48.180 before Qasem Soleimani

00:30:49.560 was there.

00:30:49.760 Right.

00:30:50.500 And I understand.

00:30:51.340 I understand Martha

00:30:53.160 not having to add

00:30:54.660 context while she's

00:30:55.720 on the ground.

00:30:56.500 But when I say

00:30:57.560 was it responsible,

00:30:58.980 I mean,

00:30:59.700 AB...

00:31:00.120 You should still put

00:31:00.220 some of that in there.

00:31:01.780 As much as she can

00:31:02.860 get away with, 0.91

00:31:03.580 yes.

00:31:04.440 But back home,

00:31:05.680 ABC should be saying,

00:31:07.640 look,

00:31:08.460 she's,

00:31:09.140 you know,

00:31:09.580 we made a deal.

00:31:13.200 She has minders.

00:31:14.140 She has people with her.

00:31:15.060 So she's bringing

00:31:16.200 a certain context

00:31:17.960 to the,

00:31:19.020 you know,

00:31:20.080 to the picture here.

00:31:21.000 But they're just

00:31:21.760 using it as straight

00:31:23.080 reporting.

00:31:23.720 Same thing with NBC

00:31:24.580 last night,

00:31:25.640 running state television

00:31:27.700 where they were

00:31:29.040 reporting 30 soldiers.

00:31:30.720 Yeah,

00:31:31.120 it's just stunning.

00:31:32.160 It's,

00:31:32.440 I mean,

00:31:32.900 that to me is just like,

00:31:33.760 well,

00:31:34.100 how about this,

00:31:35.080 Glenn?

00:31:35.440 Okay,

00:31:35.680 how about,

00:31:36.640 how do you know

00:31:37.240 that the pictures

00:31:38.040 they put on state TV

00:31:39.500 show what they say

00:31:41.360 they show?

00:31:42.040 Right.

00:31:42.160 How do you know that?

00:31:43.140 Like,

00:31:43.620 you know,

00:31:43.820 I was having conversations

00:31:44.800 with various people,

00:31:46.580 a couple of intelligence

00:31:47.340 people.

00:31:47.940 They were looking

00:31:49.240 and they were triangulating

00:31:50.560 the trajectory of the,

00:31:52.360 you know,

00:31:53.260 of the missiles in the air

00:31:54.500 with the moon

00:31:55.520 and looking at

00:31:56.880 where the moon was

00:31:58.000 in the path,

00:31:59.100 you know,

00:31:59.460 from Iran to Iraq

00:32:00.840 because,

00:32:01.880 yes,

00:32:02.060 there were missiles

00:32:02.700 that hit that base,

00:32:03.960 right?

00:32:04.300 But where were they fired

00:32:05.400 from?

00:32:05.760 Were they fired from Iran?

00:32:07.260 Were they fired from,

00:32:08.440 you know,

00:32:08.740 an Iranian proxy inside Iraq?

00:32:10.700 I mean,

00:32:11.060 were they fired that night?

00:32:12.060 Were those pictures

00:32:12.920 of the missiles being fired?

00:32:14.980 I mean,

00:32:15.120 maybe those pictures

00:32:15.740 were something else.

00:32:17.480 You know,

00:32:17.980 there's a lot of questions

00:32:19.640 about that

00:32:20.100 because Iranian,

00:32:21.540 the Iranian regime

00:32:22.800 frequently puts out

00:32:24.320 whatever it wants to.

00:32:26.100 I mean,

00:32:26.320 they're masters of propaganda.

00:32:28.340 And what is very obvious here

00:32:30.060 is,

00:32:30.860 you know,

00:32:31.040 when they put that out

00:32:32.140 and they did that quickly

00:32:33.060 and they had people

00:32:33.700 cheering there,

00:32:34.700 you know,

00:32:34.980 at the launch site,

00:32:36.080 that was for the people,

00:32:37.320 right?

00:32:37.480 That was to satisfy

00:32:38.300 because what has happened here?

00:32:40.240 This is the part that,

00:32:41.340 for me,

00:32:41.980 the most significant thing

00:32:43.040 that I think

00:32:43.680 is missing here

00:32:44.760 from the news coverage

00:32:45.760 where reporters

00:32:46.660 have really failed

00:32:48.180 in their duty

00:32:49.260 is that

00:32:50.140 the strength

00:32:51.320 of the reaction

00:32:52.300 to Qasem Soleimani's death

00:32:54.220 is absolute verification

00:32:56.400 of the significance

00:32:57.980 of the strike.

00:32:59.680 Because they,

00:33:00.300 you know,

00:33:00.740 the media here

00:33:01.600 seems to want us

00:33:02.460 to have it both ways

00:33:03.440 where they want to say

00:33:04.300 this achieved nothing.

00:33:05.680 This will not impact

00:33:06.880 Iran's capabilities 0.98

00:33:07.780 in any way.

00:33:08.760 You know,

00:33:10.000 it's not significant

00:33:10.940 at all.

00:33:11.540 And then on the other hand,

00:33:12.360 they want to say

00:33:12.900 this is so significant

00:33:14.400 that you have,

00:33:15.440 you've now put us

00:33:16.180 into World War III.

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00:33:56.000 A man who I wouldn't

00:33:57.000 be surprised

00:33:57.960 if he wasn't

00:33:58.580 in a council last night

00:34:00.340 trying to figure out

00:34:01.260 what was going on

00:34:02.220 and what the response

00:34:04.000 should be,

00:34:04.840 Congressman Chris Stewart,

00:34:07.140 a member of the

00:34:07.780 Intelligence Committee

00:34:09.140 in Congress.

00:34:10.140 Welcome,

00:34:10.880 Chris.

00:34:11.360 How are you?

00:34:12.900 I'm good, Glenn.

00:34:13.880 Boy,

00:34:14.080 our year started out

00:34:14.960 with a bang,

00:34:15.540 didn't it?

00:34:15.960 No pun intended.

00:34:16.920 I know.

00:34:17.420 It's crazy.

00:34:19.180 And I think

00:34:19.980 that this is,

00:34:21.680 if it continues

00:34:22.680 to play out this way,

00:34:23.720 and there's a caveat

00:34:24.340 on this or two,

00:34:25.300 but this was last night

00:34:27.200 the best case scenario

00:34:28.500 for a response

00:34:29.720 from Iran,

00:34:30.320 was it not?

00:34:31.460 Yeah,

00:34:31.880 it really was.

00:34:32.980 And when you look

00:34:33.600 at some of the statements

00:34:34.940 from their leadership

00:34:35.720 saying they thought

00:34:36.640 it was proportional,

00:34:37.500 they don't want

00:34:38.160 to accelerate

00:34:40.000 nor to,

00:34:41.080 you know,

00:34:41.360 make things worse,

00:34:42.680 it's pretty clear

00:34:43.280 the leadership

00:34:43.760 is signaling

00:34:44.400 that they themselves

00:34:45.660 are not going

00:34:46.520 to do anything further,

00:34:47.840 although I think

00:34:48.480 their proxies will.

00:34:49.560 They've been doing

00:34:50.060 that for 40 years,

00:34:50.980 but it really was

00:34:52.140 kind of the best case

00:34:53.140 that we could have

00:34:54.000 hoped for at this point.

00:34:55.700 So we had people

00:34:57.560 on television last night

00:34:58.780 that I thought

00:34:59.360 were crazy,

00:35:00.420 saying that we should

00:35:00.940 go after and bomb 0.95

00:35:02.120 their oil fields,

00:35:03.160 and I thought,

00:35:03.800 geez,

00:35:04.040 who is advising

00:35:04.740 the president?

00:35:06.300 His doctrine seems

00:35:07.800 to be his red line,

00:35:09.280 American lives.

00:35:10.640 And if no American 0.89

00:35:11.840 lives were lost,

00:35:13.120 then we're fine.

00:35:16.780 Go ahead.

00:35:17.700 I'm sorry, Glenn,

00:35:18.220 that's exactly right.

00:35:19.500 And you've hit upon

00:35:20.440 the key on that,

00:35:21.220 and it really has been

00:35:22.120 the president's red line,

00:35:23.180 and he's been very clear.

00:35:24.360 All through the summer

00:35:25.140 when they were

00:35:25.600 tanking our tankers,

00:35:27.000 when they're shooting

00:35:27.580 down our drones

00:35:28.640 in international airspace

00:35:30.300 that are operating

00:35:31.060 lawfully,

00:35:31.900 when he's attacking

00:35:32.660 the Saudi oil fields,

00:35:34.240 he always said,

00:35:35.240 and by the way,

00:35:35.820 I know they've been

00:35:36.620 signaling very,

00:35:37.560 very clearly

00:35:38.080 to the Iranian leadership,

00:35:39.800 if you kill Americans, 0.64

00:35:41.320 everything is different.

00:35:43.340 And through the late fall,

00:35:44.880 we began to see them

00:35:45.820 take actions

00:35:46.460 that would kill Americans 0.97

00:35:47.300 as they consistently

00:35:48.300 bombed facilities

00:35:49.320 where about half the people

00:35:50.620 there were Americans.

00:35:51.540 And the president

00:35:52.120 signaled again to them,

00:35:53.480 you're going to kill

00:35:54.500 some Americans

00:35:55.140 if you continue doing this.

00:35:56.480 And if you do,

00:35:57.300 everything is different.

00:35:58.260 And they did kill

00:35:59.100 some American citizen,

00:36:00.600 and things did change.

00:36:02.080 But hopefully,

00:36:04.260 and I'm actually

00:36:04.860 quite optimistic,

00:36:06.300 that this will now

00:36:07.440 settle down

00:36:08.260 and reframe their thinking,

00:36:10.580 and maybe we can even

00:36:11.600 get something positive

00:36:12.500 coming from this.

00:36:13.920 How do you mean?

00:36:14.380 What do you think

00:36:14.780 we could possibly get?

00:36:16.780 Well, you know,

00:36:17.760 our grand strategy

00:36:18.760 is not just to continue

00:36:20.140 with a 40-year

00:36:21.060 low-grade war with Iran.

00:36:22.640 Going back to the embassy

00:36:23.680 in 79,

00:36:24.580 and every incident,

00:36:25.620 and dozens of them,

00:36:26.600 and the hundreds of Americans

00:36:27.560 who've been killed

00:36:28.200 in the intervening time,

00:36:29.500 I mean, we can say,

00:36:30.480 well, that's just the way it is,

00:36:31.500 and we'll just accept it.

00:36:32.840 Or we could encourage it

00:36:33.860 like Barack Obama did

00:36:34.940 and said,

00:36:35.280 here's a boatload of money,

00:36:36.380 and here's prestige

00:36:37.800 and credibility

00:36:38.700 on the international stage,

00:36:40.020 and we now think

00:36:40.600 that you're just another nation

00:36:41.820 on par morally

00:36:43.320 and the way you treat

00:36:44.140 people like us.

00:36:45.400 Or we could say,

00:36:46.320 look,

00:36:46.960 you've got to change

00:36:47.740 your behavior,

00:36:48.340 but if you do,

00:36:48.920 we will welcome you back

00:36:50.020 into the international community.

00:36:51.480 We'll relieve

00:36:52.180 some of the sanctions.

00:36:53.000 We'll try to help

00:36:53.640 the Iranian people.

00:36:54.620 But you can't keep doing

00:36:55.980 what you've been doing

00:36:56.720 for 40 years.

00:36:57.400 And maybe,

00:36:58.040 I know it sounds crazy,

00:37:00.180 but just maybe

00:37:00.980 this is an opportunity

00:37:02.480 for Iranian leadership

00:37:03.460 to say,

00:37:04.480 you know,

00:37:05.000 this is enough.

00:37:05.860 We really could modify

00:37:06.940 some of the things

00:37:07.720 we've been doing.

00:37:09.040 Doubt they're going to do that.

00:37:10.960 No, probably not.

00:37:12.780 You know, hopefully.

00:37:14.260 If they would have a proxy,

00:37:17.220 so they have one,

00:37:18.860 you know,

00:37:19.420 one degree of separation

00:37:21.040 or more,

00:37:22.240 and they had a proxy,

00:37:24.260 go after an embassy

00:37:25.660 or go after a CIA station chief

00:37:28.300 as they've done before

00:37:29.700 or kidnap an official

00:37:32.600 someplace in the world.

00:37:35.360 How do we respond to that?

00:37:36.940 Does that take us

00:37:37.780 right back to

00:37:38.780 where we were?

00:37:42.000 Yeah, you know,

00:37:43.240 I hate to say it depends,

00:37:44.940 but it really does depend,

00:37:46.440 and it depends on just

00:37:47.240 an incredible number

00:37:48.280 of variables.

00:37:49.120 Obviously,

00:37:50.580 this I can say

00:37:51.600 with some certainty,

00:37:52.480 their proxies

00:37:53.220 are not a mystery to us.

00:37:55.100 When they operate

00:37:56.100 through their proxies,

00:37:57.000 we don't go,

00:37:57.740 boy, I wonder who did that

00:37:59.180 or on what authority

00:38:00.520 that took place.

00:38:01.360 We can draw these,

00:38:02.740 connect these dots,

00:38:03.560 and it's not a whole lot

00:38:05.260 of dots you have to connect.

00:38:06.440 So they can operate

00:38:07.260 through proxies,

00:38:08.000 but they can't do it

00:38:09.000 with impunity

00:38:09.580 and they can't do it

00:38:10.380 with anonymity.

00:38:11.260 We know that it's them,

00:38:12.400 and they know that

00:38:13.000 we know it's them.

00:38:14.240 And I guess, Glenn,

00:38:15.320 coming back to my point

00:38:16.140 about it does depend,

00:38:17.880 I mean,

00:38:18.260 there are so many

00:38:19.220 gray areas in that

00:38:20.760 of who did they capture,

00:38:22.280 or who did they kill,

00:38:23.180 under what circumstances,

00:38:24.260 and where.

00:38:25.800 And I think the best response

00:38:27.220 is to just say

00:38:28.260 it would be proportional

00:38:29.400 and it would be,

00:38:31.080 our response would be proportional

00:38:32.520 and it would be

00:38:33.560 to, you know,

00:38:35.120 reinvigorate this idea

00:38:36.640 that we,

00:38:37.520 that there's a defense

00:38:38.640 against this,

00:38:39.240 that we're going to not

00:38:40.100 incentivize them

00:38:40.980 for this behavior.

00:38:42.160 So I think the president

00:38:43.520 has a few groups of people,

00:38:46.460 five groups of people

00:38:47.460 that he just can't listen to.

00:38:49.620 And the Ayatollah

00:38:54.060 would be well advised

00:38:56.060 not to listen to them

00:38:57.120 as well.

00:38:58.040 Hezbollah and the hardliners.

00:39:00.020 This is not going to satisfy

00:39:01.100 the hardliners.

00:39:02.020 It's not going to satisfy

00:39:03.100 Hezbollah because those 0.94

00:39:04.600 are the diehards 0.99

00:39:05.580 that want death to America, 0.95

00:39:07.600 truly want death to America.

00:39:10.000 In the United States,

00:39:11.980 I would have to put

00:39:13.280 our GOP hardliners,

00:39:15.160 a lot of them were on TV

00:39:16.200 last night saying

00:39:16.840 we should bomb the oil fields

00:39:18.200 and everything else.

00:39:18.860 And I was thinking,

00:39:19.260 that's crazy.

00:39:20.660 That's just crazy.

00:39:22.640 So don't listen

00:39:23.520 to those hardliners. 0.76

00:39:24.480 But also,

00:39:25.740 the Democratic politicians

00:39:27.840 who are so eager

00:39:30.120 for failure here,

00:39:31.580 it is insane.

00:39:33.920 They were immediately saying

00:39:35.840 that this is the death spiral,

00:39:37.540 this is going to be

00:39:38.180 World War III.

00:39:39.120 the press was literally,

00:39:44.680 MSNBC,

00:39:45.920 literally taking

00:39:46.920 Iranian state television

00:39:48.680 and running it on the air

00:39:50.940 and letting it go unchecked.

00:39:54.840 I don't know

00:39:56.040 whose hardliners 0.53

00:39:57.000 and whose freaks

00:39:58.640 are worse.

00:40:00.440 Those in Iran 1.00

00:40:01.700 are those here.

00:40:04.280 Yeah, you said much,

00:40:05.520 and if I could respond

00:40:06.280 to just a couple things on that.

00:40:07.520 Number one is that I'm,

00:40:09.560 once again,

00:40:10.660 and this is not going

00:40:11.580 to shock anyone,

00:40:12.200 but I'm just so disappointed

00:40:14.080 with Nancy Pelosi,

00:40:15.040 and this is why,

00:40:15.700 and this is meaningful.

00:40:17.320 This isn't just politics

00:40:18.420 as normal.

00:40:19.180 Nancy Pelosi

00:40:19.880 had the opportunity

00:40:20.840 last night

00:40:22.040 to come and see

00:40:23.560 the intelligence,

00:40:24.860 which is irrefutable.

00:40:26.760 And yet she still 0.79

00:40:28.000 went out

00:40:28.580 and made this

00:40:29.140 highly partisan statement

00:40:30.440 about,

00:40:30.860 well,

00:40:31.000 this is implying

00:40:31.980 that this is

00:40:32.480 American aggression. 0.56

00:40:33.920 After seeing

00:40:34.580 this intelligence,

00:40:35.280 there's no way

00:40:35.920 anyone in the world

00:40:37.340 could honestly

00:40:38.320 come out

00:40:38.760 and say

00:40:39.060 this is anything

00:40:39.740 than what it was,

00:40:40.480 and that was

00:40:40.940 the president

00:40:41.600 protecting American lives.

00:40:43.780 That is very clear.

00:40:45.640 And the second thing

00:40:46.420 I would respond to,

00:40:47.580 Glenn,

00:40:47.800 is agreeing with you

00:40:48.540 and the fact

00:40:48.960 of the hardliners.

00:40:49.820 The good news is,

00:40:51.040 is you know

00:40:51.400 who agrees with you

00:40:52.280 is President Trump.

00:40:53.740 Right.

00:40:53.900 The last thing

00:40:54.500 in the world

00:40:55.040 he wants

00:40:55.840 is to get into

00:40:56.980 any meaningful war

00:40:58.220 or engagement

00:40:58.780 in the Middle East.

00:40:59.600 Again,

00:40:59.840 for heaven's sakes,

00:41:00.460 that's what he's

00:41:01.080 campaigned on,

00:41:02.100 and that's what

00:41:02.620 he's done since.

00:41:04.240 And he knows that.

00:41:05.400 And the second person,

00:41:06.780 or even more

00:41:07.560 than him actually,

00:41:08.500 who doesn't want

00:41:09.440 a war with Iran

00:41:11.260 is the Iranian leadership.

00:41:12.420 They know it would be suicide.

00:41:13.860 Yeah.

00:41:14.100 And I can't tell you

00:41:14.960 how many people

00:41:15.580 have asked me

00:41:16.120 over the last

00:41:16.500 three or four days,

00:41:17.140 I mean,

00:41:17.320 really worried,

00:41:18.360 hey,

00:41:18.540 do I need to go

00:41:19.100 get my kids

00:41:19.640 from college?

00:41:20.360 Are we going to war?

00:41:21.260 Was this?

00:41:21.760 And it's like,

00:41:22.180 no, no, no,

00:41:22.720 we are not going

00:41:23.640 to be in a major

00:41:24.980 international conflict

00:41:26.420 with Iran.

00:41:27.300 We don't want it

00:41:28.220 and they don't want it.

00:41:29.360 And it doesn't

00:41:29.840 have to be that way.

00:41:30.700 We can respond

00:41:32.460 appropriately

00:41:33.200 when they kill

00:41:33.840 American citizens

00:41:34.660 as we have to.

00:41:36.140 But that doesn't mean,

00:41:37.400 and I'm confident,

00:41:38.840 that we won't be

00:41:39.500 in a large-scale war

00:41:40.520 with them.

00:41:40.980 I just don't believe

00:41:41.700 that's in the cards

00:41:42.780 at all.

00:41:44.980 Chris,

00:41:46.000 have you ever seen,

00:41:50.480 I mean,

00:41:50.940 I just feel as though

00:41:53.000 between the media

00:41:54.160 and,

00:41:55.600 quite honestly,

00:41:56.220 the Democrats,

00:41:56.700 I understand

00:41:57.480 the Republican

00:41:58.440 hardliners

00:41:59.280 that just,

00:42:00.260 you know,

00:42:00.540 they just want

00:42:01.540 to regime change

00:42:03.340 and everything else.

00:42:04.400 We've got to stop

00:42:05.180 doing all of that stuff.

00:42:06.880 And I understand

00:42:08.020 who Iran is,

00:42:09.140 but this is not

00:42:09.880 the way to go.

00:42:11.720 I understand that,

00:42:13.400 but I honestly

00:42:14.320 do not understand.

00:42:15.560 I am very concerned

00:42:16.820 that the Democrats

00:42:18.100 and the media

00:42:22.100 are almost cheering

00:42:24.380 for Iran

00:42:26.560 over us,

00:42:28.500 which is,

00:42:29.560 it's suicide.

00:42:31.620 Is the divide

00:42:32.400 really that stark

00:42:35.100 now that even

00:42:36.260 in times

00:42:37.080 when American lives

00:42:38.160 are at stake,

00:42:39.600 they'll just,

00:42:40.400 they just hate

00:42:41.460 Donald Trump so much

00:42:42.520 they'll do

00:42:42.940 whatever it takes?

00:42:45.520 Well,

00:42:46.240 I mean,

00:42:46.560 the early indications

00:42:47.320 are that's exactly

00:42:48.220 the case.

00:42:48.760 And I'll go back

00:42:49.240 to my example

00:42:49.800 of Ms. Pelosi.

00:42:50.660 The responsible

00:42:51.420 thing for her to do 1.00

00:42:53.080 after seeing the intelligence

00:42:54.440 and having her questions

00:42:55.520 answered would have

00:42:56.220 come out and say

00:42:56.980 the president

00:42:57.700 did the appropriate thing.

00:42:58.980 He had no choice.

00:43:00.100 She could not bring

00:43:00.960 herself to do that.

00:43:02.380 And if she couldn't do it,

00:43:03.440 which stunningly,

00:43:04.560 we consider her

00:43:05.180 one of the more

00:43:05.720 responsible members

00:43:06.740 of the Democratic Party

00:43:07.960 now,

00:43:08.560 which is unbelievable

00:43:09.440 than me,

00:43:09.960 but compared to many

00:43:10.760 of the others,

00:43:11.340 she actually is.

00:43:12.680 If she can't do that,

00:43:13.620 then many of the others

00:43:14.380 will not either.

00:43:14.980 And the media

00:43:15.520 will not as well.

00:43:17.260 And I think it comes

00:43:18.200 back to what you said,

00:43:19.140 Glenn.

00:43:19.420 They're just so viscerally

00:43:21.060 opposed to this president.

00:43:22.160 And anyone who supports him,

00:43:24.660 his voters,

00:43:25.740 anyone who has

00:43:26.820 a kind word towards him

00:43:28.140 is just their mortal enemy,

00:43:29.460 it's as if they feel

00:43:30.320 that they would actually

00:43:32.500 have sympathetic feelings

00:43:34.900 towards General Soleimani,

00:43:37.120 who's responsible

00:43:37.760 for the deaths

00:43:39.460 of hundreds of Americans

00:43:40.540 and hundreds of thousands

00:43:42.000 of lives from Syria

00:43:43.600 through the Shia crescent.

00:43:46.060 And I hope this will pass.

00:43:49.260 I hope that they will,

00:43:50.180 you know,

00:43:50.800 that they'll come

00:43:51.320 to their senses

00:43:51.880 a little bit on this.

00:43:53.680 But the early indications

00:43:55.880 are is that,

00:43:56.800 as you said,

00:43:57.640 they just oppose

00:43:58.680 and hate this president

00:43:59.580 so badly,

00:44:00.100 they just can't think

00:44:00.860 clearly through these things.

00:44:02.240 One last question.

00:44:03.040 As a guy who's on

00:44:03.760 the Intelligence Committee,

00:44:05.600 a guy who's been

00:44:06.280 in the Air Force

00:44:07.640 and, you know,

00:44:09.060 high-ranking officer,

00:44:10.800 this letter

00:44:12.980 that was leaked

00:44:13.860 that said

00:44:15.700 we were pulling out,

00:44:16.560 that was unsigned,

00:44:17.480 that is one

00:44:19.980 of the most damaging things

00:44:21.640 to our policies

00:44:23.600 that could have

00:44:24.300 ever happened.

00:44:26.020 I mean,

00:44:26.500 you couldn't be

00:44:28.840 working for the other side

00:44:33.120 and have a better thing happen

00:44:35.640 than at that point say,

00:44:38.300 oh, we're going to pull out,

00:44:39.420 which forces the president

00:44:40.820 to say,

00:44:41.760 no, we're not,

00:44:42.740 which enables Iran 0.94

00:44:46.500 to say,

00:44:46.960 look, we're winning,

00:44:48.420 forces us to stay.

00:44:51.140 Is there going to be

00:44:52.120 any consequence

00:44:52.920 for this person?

00:44:53.860 Do you believe

00:44:54.460 that that was just

00:44:55.280 released accidentally?

00:44:59.040 I'm going to answer

00:44:59.960 that as honestly

00:45:00.540 as I can,

00:45:01.200 and that's just say,

00:45:01.760 Glenn, I don't know,

00:45:02.620 but we have to find out.

00:45:03.960 I mean,

00:45:04.240 it was a very troubling

00:45:07.240 communication

00:45:08.180 in the midst

00:45:09.200 of a time

00:45:10.740 when the communication

00:45:11.680 should have been

00:45:12.180 very concise

00:45:12.900 and very, very clear.

00:45:14.460 And it clearly

00:45:15.300 wasn't the president's policy.

00:45:17.000 It clearly wasn't

00:45:17.880 the administration's view

00:45:19.100 that, okay,

00:45:19.600 well, we're going to

00:45:20.140 cut tail and run.

00:45:21.200 And by the way,

00:45:21.680 that's exactly

00:45:22.300 what the Iranian regime

00:45:24.360 wants us to do

00:45:25.240 so that they can

00:45:25.880 rain blood and horror

00:45:26.880 through that area.

00:45:28.660 We need to,

00:45:29.900 as I've said

00:45:31.040 for several years now,

00:45:32.180 I think we need

00:45:33.640 to relook every place

00:45:34.700 we have American soldiers

00:45:35.720 over there

00:45:36.160 and ask the question,

00:45:37.140 is it essential?

00:45:37.900 Is it necessary?

00:45:38.700 What are we getting

00:45:39.240 for this?

00:45:40.300 But you can't do it

00:45:41.360 at this moment

00:45:42.860 and you can't give it

00:45:43.700 to the Shia militia

00:45:45.060 and to the Iranian regime

00:45:46.480 at this time.

00:45:48.000 So, yeah,

00:45:48.680 but at some point

00:45:49.480 we should look at

00:45:50.060 what are the purpose

00:45:51.380 of the U.S. troops

00:45:52.060 in Iraq

00:45:52.440 and how long

00:45:52.900 should they be there?

00:45:53.700 But for that communication

00:45:54.740 to have been leaked

00:45:55.620 deceptively like it was

00:45:57.000 and to send that

00:45:57.940 kind of message,

00:45:58.840 man,

00:45:59.260 we'd love to find out

00:45:59.940 who did that

00:46:00.460 and what they did.

00:46:01.060 Well,

00:46:01.200 wouldn't that be

00:46:01.600 pretty easy to find out?

00:46:02.840 I mean,

00:46:03.000 who wrote that?

00:46:03.660 Was that a low-level private

00:46:05.380 who just didn't know

00:46:06.140 what they were doing?

00:46:06.820 Or, I mean,

00:46:07.920 that had to have

00:46:08.680 some weight behind it.

00:46:09.860 Somebody who wrote that

00:46:11.680 we should be able to find

00:46:13.100 and they should be fired

00:46:14.160 at best.

00:46:15.480 Or, I mean,

00:46:15.740 sorry,

00:46:16.020 at least.

00:46:16.700 Well,

00:46:18.880 and I'm going to withhold

00:46:19.800 judgment on this

00:46:20.560 until I know more

00:46:21.340 because I don't want to

00:46:22.220 say something

00:46:23.500 without the facts.

00:46:24.580 But we need to find out.

00:46:25.760 And that's just

00:46:27.080 the bottom line.

00:46:27.680 We need to find out

00:46:28.400 who did it,

00:46:29.160 under what circumstances,

00:46:30.160 what they were thinking.

00:46:30.980 It just wasn't

00:46:31.760 what the president's policy,

00:46:33.600 it did not reflect

00:46:34.360 our policy.

00:46:35.260 And it could be, Glenn,

00:46:36.020 that it was just

00:46:36.600 misconstrued in the sense

00:46:37.680 that they were going

00:46:38.160 to reposition troops

00:46:39.320 and it might have been

00:46:40.340 poorly stated.

00:46:41.380 But if they're saying

00:46:42.000 we're going to reposition troops

00:46:43.180 to better defend ourselves,

00:46:44.740 that's very different

00:46:45.760 and we're going to

00:46:46.320 reposition troops

00:46:47.280 to prepare for a withdrawal.

00:46:49.340 Well, let me know

00:46:49.760 if you pursue it

00:46:50.520 because I'd like to know

00:46:51.280 the answer to that

00:46:52.180 because I think this was

00:46:53.140 really disturbing.

00:46:56.000 I've not seen that

00:46:56.700 happen before.

00:46:57.800 Chris Stewart,

00:46:58.320 thank you so much.

00:46:59.340 Appreciate it.

00:46:59.920 Congressman Chris Stewart

00:47:00.720 from the great state of Utah.

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