The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Lara Logan & Susan Crockford ｜ 6⧸5⧸19

00:00:00.000 well welcome to the podcast uh today and stew decide i came i came to the table with a happy

00:00:06.320 story i came to the story at the table with a very heartwarming wonderful story about an old

00:00:13.280 man that won the lottery and even won much bigger and stew wrecked it that's what my that's my job

00:00:19.680 is here ruin the positive thoughts of others the unfortunate part is he's right about all of it

00:00:25.260 and laura logan is with us you have to hear um laura logan respected journalist well respected up

00:00:34.120 until recently now i don't know how respected she is um but she's talking about what's happening on

00:00:39.580 the border and really the best everybody who wants to be a journalist should listen to this five or

00:00:46.540 six minute segment of of laura explaining how you're supposed to do journalism miley cyrus licks a cake

00:00:54.840 and the whole walrus thing you know they're jumping off cliffs committing suicide because

00:01:00.720 they're so upset about global warming uh apparently not true wait until you hear how the netflix people

00:01:08.560 actually seemingly had a role in pushing these walruses over the cliff it's amazing all on today's

00:01:18.080 podcast you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:01:29.420 so just uh leading the life of luxury the swinging bachelor i'm on my uh on my way as a swinging

00:01:44.760 bachelor who is married uh on my way driving to the uh the lottery office to pick up my fifty thousand

00:01:52.360 dollar check now this is what this guy in north carolina was doing he he said he was he went to

00:02:00.600 play powerball and his granddaughter had given him a fortune cookie and on the bottom of the fortune cookie

00:02:07.340 were numbers so he decided you know what i'm gonna play those numbers and so he did

00:02:13.380 somehow or another when he was on his way to pick up what he thought was fifty thousand dollars

00:02:20.940 it turns out it was a little more and as he's looking at the numbers now he doesn't watch tv he

00:02:26.440 says so he doesn't pay attention to any of this um and he saw as he i guess as he was driving uh he saw

00:02:35.520 the numbers for the powerball and he realizes i think i won more now he didn't know how much he had

00:02:45.620 no idea he just played powerball he didn't know what the jackpot was nothing his his granddaughter

00:02:51.600 just giving him some numbers so he just played it so he's on the way and he calls up the office and

00:02:56.340 he's like you know what i i think i have i think i have all of the numbers i was coming in to pick up

00:03:03.180 fifty thousand i think it might be more i think i have all of the numbers and they said uh yeah you do

00:03:11.000 and he said wow how much is it worth how much is it worth uh they said well more than fifty thousand

00:03:19.120 it's uh three hundred and forty four million quote he said quote dang i got them all

00:03:29.620 i love that he said he called his uh he called his wife and said you ain't gonna believe this but

00:03:38.800 i got it all now he says he hopes that the windfalls don't change him he's going to give a million

00:03:44.660 dollars to his brother i mean how about something for granddaughter i mean she was the one that brought

00:03:48.780 you the cookie a million dollars to his brother uh to make good on a deal apparently they may

00:03:54.300 donate to charities yada yada yada uh he took the lump sum of two hundred and twenty three million

00:04:00.160 dollars he said uh i'm still gonna wear my jeans just maybe i'll wear some newer ones

00:04:05.660 i think it's fantastic i don't understand though if you were if you win fifty thousand dollars i think

00:04:10.980 that does that mean you've won you've hit five or six you know i don't know how many numbers you've

00:04:15.920 hit but you've hit a lot of the numbers right aren't you sitting there staring at that thing a hundred

00:04:20.320 times when you've hit for fifty thousand dollars to check it and you miss the fact that you won

00:04:25.340 three hundred million dollars well maybe maybe it was the powerball number that he didn't check because

00:04:30.180 he wasn't he's not a lotto player right he's not he wasn't playing it for the powerball he just you

00:04:35.280 know probably went into a convenience store put those numbers in and just saw oh wow i got the five

00:04:40.100 right and didn't i i don't know i i don't know how that happened yeah but he he wasn't playing it

00:04:46.540 you know to win the three hundred and forty four million he did he had no idea how much it was

00:04:51.840 worth that's incredible that's a good day it's a type of thing that if i'm working at the lottery

00:04:57.320 uh you know the headquarters and someone calls me and says i think i won fifty thousand dollars but

00:05:01.920 i'm looking at the numbers i think i have them all what i say is come directly to my desk and i will

00:05:07.160 give you the fifty thousand dollars in exchange for the ticket and then you need to leave immediately

00:05:10.660 just ask for me yes don't go to someone else because they might do so you don't know what's

00:05:15.180 gonna happen you can trust me around here yeah and then you take the you give them 50 grand

00:05:21.220 somehow i might give him 51 yeah we're giving you a tip yeah i just want you to know you're getting

00:05:26.360 a great deal here and he walks out you turn it in 344 mil yeah that's the way to play that i think

00:05:32.080 i'd still take the lump sum because they the officials might be coming to look for me so i'd take the lump

00:05:37.380 sum and when i say i it would be somebody else not related to me that would show up for the check

00:05:43.600 i'm just saying why do we sit here every time and talk about it as if it's 344 million when it's

00:05:48.400 really 223 million well it's not even wait wait wait it's not even that you can take the 344 over 20

00:05:54.880 years or whatever right it's just a silly you know like yeah we'll give you first of all almost

00:05:59.680 everyone takes the lump sum uh which there's some question about whether that's a good idea for some

00:06:03.900 people uh i think most people yeah i mean uh there there's there's been some because it's always been

00:06:10.480 statistically you should take the 300 or the 223 million because you could it pays off in the long

00:06:15.000 term but they see the way that people use it and it's like maybe you should be guaranteed a payment

00:06:19.220 next year maybe that's a good thing in 19 years you're still there's still a payment coming in

00:06:22.680 uh i think that's uh there's a question about that i think if i believed in if i believed that

00:06:28.300 money and these and these states and lotteries and everything else would actually stand yeah then

00:06:33.440 i probably would take it over time it would be stupid to do it but i would probably take it over

00:06:37.380 time because i'd be like i don't know i mean i want something left for my kids and we right you'll

00:06:43.080 250 million dollars i could see myself going what it's only 50 million dollars you know five times six

00:06:51.160 times right someone's gonna scam you into a real estate investment that doesn't exist right you know

00:06:56.340 yes but i mean i just they always say this 344 million it's like let's be honest about it's 223

00:07:01.820 million well if you want to take it over a very long period of time you'll get a interest essentially

00:07:06.780 right like but again you have to also factor in inflation and all those other things a payment in

00:07:11.200 20 years it's a lot different than a payment today well but let's be real i mean why do we say

00:07:15.980 it's 223 million dollars when it's actually about 112 that's true where does he live again he lives in

00:07:24.540 north carolina yeah that's not you're gonna lose a lot you're gonna lose you lose about half

00:07:28.980 you have a 40 yeah at the end of the day you're gonna lose around half of it right and then of

00:07:33.140 course every time you spend it you lose more and uh this is a depressing story it is yes we've ruined

00:07:38.700 this story we had a we had a happy grandfather who had retired you know this guy's life is over is

00:07:46.080 what i'm saying boy it'd hate to be you jack i hope you can buy a nice coffin with it 0.63

00:07:51.980 oh i'm sorry i tried to start looking he wrecked it okay let me try this let me try this here's a

00:08:01.700 guy that should not win the lottery tracy morgan comedian yes okay okay who would have thunk that

00:08:11.520 tracy morgan would go out and buy a new bugatti okay but he bought a new bugatti and it was two

00:08:19.160 million dollars and he bought it at bugatti in manhattan now here's your first shopping around

00:08:25.480 for the lower price bugatti apparently um now here's the thing if you're buying a bugatti

00:08:31.580 don't live in manhattan okay what what are you gonna do you're gonna drive it three and a half

00:08:37.580 miles an hour right and stop and go traffic with giant potholes and people you know hitting you

00:08:43.420 know in the hey back up i'm gonna ride away here i mean it's not a pleasant place to be

00:08:49.020 with any car it sucks to drive there anyway yeah bugatti i can't imagine especially with that like

00:08:55.140 that gigantic engine you're talking a thousand horsepower and that thing trying to do a manual

00:08:59.800 shift going around you know 44th street like that's not it's just ridiculous it's just ridiculous

00:09:05.180 okay so um he he he was driving his car for about 10 minutes in manhattan he just closed your eyes

00:09:16.340 because you know what's coming what did he do 10 minutes nothing a woman in a late model honda crv

00:09:23.740 tried to make a right turn from the left lane and crashed into his bugatti and scraped it and graded

00:09:33.100 against the entire side okay he gets out of the car and he's like what were you thinking

00:09:41.340 she was like i don't know he's like this is i've had this car for 10 minutes and it's a bugatti

00:09:52.520 oh i'm sorry looks pretty what does that mean it's a two million dollar car

00:09:58.860 oh my gosh so it he literally had it for about 30 minutes from the time he drove off the lot

00:10:08.640 and signed the deal 30 minutes total before she took and just destroyed his bugatti 1.00

00:10:17.700 she's got insurance though right i mean uh she's got liability insurance surely that will cover

00:10:24.640 i'm sure that will cover the 1.89 million dollar car oh god one point oh i know it's a convertible

00:10:32.700 so it's it's it's not only it's used so you got to expect some dings uh it's used so that's why it

00:10:40.160 was 1.8 million dollars this is this was cheap for the bugatti because it's a convertible which

00:10:47.020 apparently is very rare very rare right and so he's driving it for the first 10 minutes i think

00:10:54.080 i think that's worse than the worst lottery winner i mean because that just shows how stupid you are

00:11:00.520 don't buy a bugatti in manhattan especially if you're tracy morgan who should stay out of all 0.99

00:11:05.460 automobiles right like the he was the guy who he almost died in a massive car crash like his

00:11:11.140 why are you even get it you should live in the city remember that oh my god that's his whole

00:11:16.240 that's the you know he was you know because he did saturday night live and he was on 30 rock right

00:11:19.940 he had like you know a bunch of stuff and he almost got killed it was in uh 2014 ish oh wow

00:11:26.500 and he was almost killed in a giant wreck it was on the new jersey turnpike and uh get out of that

00:11:31.900 area yeah get leave get out of that area here's an idea iowa okay kansas here's an idea subways

00:11:40.340 if you're gonna live there take a subway it's a scary thing when the subway is the safe alternative

00:11:45.440 i'm telling you we lived we lived in new york for a while the last thing you want is a nice car

00:11:50.060 what you do is you just go buy a junker because i literally saw i literally saw a car take the

00:11:59.040 bumper the front bumper off of a taxi cab at about 65 miles an hour on i think it was i think it was

00:12:11.960 like 42nd street and it's just bare it was like two o'clock in the morning and i'm walking down the

00:12:18.960 street and i see this car there's nothing it's all green lights and i see this this uh this car it was

00:12:25.440 actually the reverse it was a car and a taxi cab came up behind it and this car was just you know

00:12:31.620 an out-of-town person like i don't know 42nd street i'm trying to find 41st where is that do i take a left

00:12:38.180 and so it's just puttering down the street and this cab comes and it just clips it it's it's got

00:12:43.400 to be going 60 70 miles an hour and it just clips the front of this car and the bumpers catch on each

00:12:49.500 other and it pulls the bumper off the other car and so now the bumper is just kind of like spinning

00:12:56.140 in the middle of the road the guy in the cab didn't even tap on his brakes that's that's manhattan

00:13:02.800 okay you buy a crappy car and you park it and when you come back and it's like burned to the

00:13:08.780 ground and everything is gone you're like huh and you move on right exactly just move on you go to

00:13:14.560 walk down the street in new york you'll see those little rubber like things that you put in your

00:13:19.120 trunk and they hang over your bumper because you your bumper gets hit randomly so often right that

00:13:25.060 people just protect when they park they put a little piece of rubber just hang over there so

00:13:29.180 hopefully the car i guess bounces off you just need like a you need nerf you just need a nerf car

00:13:34.500 yeah you know just just take a piece of crap and then take a bunch of nerf footballs and just tape

00:13:41.400 them all around your car and you have a chance that when you get out of new york you still have

00:13:46.480 a really crappy car with tape marks where you and that's good that's a good way to get out of new york

00:13:54.320 with your car the best of the glenn beck program

00:14:00.040 hi it's glenn if you're a subscriber to the podcast can you do us a favor and rate us on itunes

00:14:11.860 if you're not a subscriber become one today and listen on your own time you can subscribe on itunes

00:14:17.640 thanks hello pat hello glenn so you are you are unleashed about uh well i i was kind of interested

00:14:25.680 in the fact that uh lou dobbs is calling out republicans uh for being traitors because they're

00:14:33.040 not supporting uh donald trump's tariffs and i thought when since when are republicans traitors

00:14:42.920 for being free trade people what time did that monologue happen uh you know i they're cowards 0.55

00:14:53.480 and traitors and they are uh committing suicide and bringing down the country with them well i mean 0.88

00:15:00.940 i will say that lou dobbs has always been a tariff guy uh from back in the day i mean he was never

00:15:06.020 been a conservative i know but he's always been a big tariff guy going back to his years at cnn

00:15:11.580 he knows for a fact that republicans have not been tariff no of course how do you not at least

00:15:16.200 include that in the analysis right i mean he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't bake that into

00:15:20.760 anything it's been the exact opposite position of every one of these people that's been elected

00:15:24.340 for the past 50 years and you know of course obviously the pro-union left has been the ones

00:15:29.020 asking for tariffs all this time uh so they're talking they say that the the tariffs as as requested

00:15:36.420 by trump if if implemented and again we hope this is a which ones the mexican the mexican

00:15:41.000 ones just the mexican ones if implemented and we hope it's a negotiation we know how this stuff

00:15:45.700 works uh because you know trump threatens these things and hopefully they don't come to pass

00:15:49.540 but if they do it would be the largest tax increase in 35 years wow really that's a big number yeah it

00:15:56.040 is now of course that's on top of other tariffs in addition it's on top of a big tax cut right so it's

00:16:02.800 it doesn't mean that we when he started to when we would be here would be the biggest tax increase but

00:16:07.240 from where we are right now to the end of these mexican tariffs would be the biggest tax increase

00:16:11.540 in 35 years and i just don't i don't know why you know again like this is i know something he believes

00:16:16.540 and it's something that you know conservatives have disagreed with the entire time i've been alive

00:16:21.620 but but but until now until now that that they have all fallen apart they i mean the arguments have

00:16:28.260 completely fallen apart we won that one we won that one even the democrats were against tariffs you know i

00:16:35.940 mean it was it was not something it was old think and and you know i'm i'm i'm happy to see

00:16:43.760 first of all aren't tariffs something that the president needs the senate for no i mean tariffs

00:16:51.440 so he's going to do it the way he's going to do this is interesting and and one another reason why

00:16:55.920 it's going to be a problem he's basically going to have to do another emergency declaration

00:17:01.360 to get the tariffs through now we know we had an issue with the last one and a lot of our listeners

00:17:05.720 did as well and that like we really think the border is a big deal we really want the wall but

00:17:09.840 like is this the right way to do it if you remember a bunch of republicans voted against him on that

00:17:14.420 just not enough to get to override the video veto here you have a serious uh issue where apparently in

00:17:21.500 the meeting there were no people no senators on trump's side in the meeting when it comes to when

00:17:28.260 it came to the tariffs and this is something that should go through congress but he's trying to

00:17:32.340 circumvent that process again well well he might i mean sort of yeah i mean because again like trade

00:17:37.640 authority in the constitution is congress yeah it's supposed to be through congress congress gave a lot of

00:17:42.120 this authority to the president however the president has to justify it so to justify it his his approach

00:17:49.320 here is going to likely be and we don't know for sure he hasn't released this certainty but this is

00:17:53.840 what the white house white house sources are saying is that he would have to go through another

00:17:57.640 emergency declaration which would either be amending the one that already exists or creating a brand new

00:18:03.080 emergency uh declaration so again the congress would have a chance to override it there is no evidence

00:18:10.160 that republicans would stand up to him to the numbers to to get to 67 votes and this also includes the

00:18:17.560 house would have to also get to two-thirds there's no evidence on any issue no they wouldn't stand up

00:18:22.680 that they would stand up to trump so either so i mean like they they most of this is them just

00:18:26.520 talking a big game they want to say they're trying to hopefully influence trump before these things go

00:18:31.280 into effect maybe they can move him maybe they can delay them these are the games that they play

00:18:35.640 in reality is the republican congress going to over overturn a veto from donald trump on anything i think

00:18:41.740 the answer is no i don't especially they all talk a big game but they they're not going to do that

00:18:45.560 and like you know a lot of the stuff they shouldn't be overturning trump's done a lot of really good things

00:18:49.400 this one in particular though has been against the philosophy of the party for at least 50 years

00:18:54.280 so the the problem is is that you you uh donald trump is under such attack right now uh and has been the

00:19:03.780 whole time that anything that even sounds like you're against him you're immediately tossed to the side

00:19:11.660 yeah that's true you know i came out for justin amash just just to say i think he's a good guy and i

00:19:18.180 think he believes in the constitution which is all true by the way i'm against impeachment and what he

00:19:24.120 said about impeachment and i'm against him running in 2020 that doesn't seem to matter not to breitbart

00:19:30.740 or anybody else they're just saying oh glenn beck wants impeachment no no are you on the trump train

00:19:35.680 or not well all we're saying maybe i'm not on anybody's train i'm not on anybody's train justin

00:19:40.980 amash is a solid conservative he's a solid conservative he has his problems he has some

00:19:46.640 things that i disagree with you know when it comes to israel etc etc i disagree with those things but

00:19:51.580 i'm fine with that you we should disagree with things i mean we we can't you'll never be in

00:19:57.340 lockstep with everybody but that doesn't mean but he's got a hundred percent rating from freedom

00:20:02.000 works yeah i know i know i know i know yeah so to to throw we can't throw people away like this

00:20:10.140 we can't throw people away we're eating our own and we're seeing this happen now do you see how they

00:20:15.560 are just coming after joe biden yeah oh my god yeah today there's a bunch of new stories about it

00:20:21.420 plagiarism and he's lying about the civil rights marching is all of that there was the editorial that

00:20:28.180 came out about how you know we need a jfk we need a younger guy with vision this is yeah we don't

00:20:35.180 need another hillary clinton i mean they are coming after him they also dug up a when he was 29 years

00:20:41.420 old and running and that he used all these attacks of i guess how old he was yeah i've like you know

00:20:47.860 they're like my opponent was fighting polio i'm fighting you know like it's totally ridiculous and

00:20:55.080 he wound up winning the race by i think 3 000 votes it was a very close race uh but yeah they

00:20:59.960 i mean look you expect a field of 24 they realize he's ahead the latest polls have him his lead

00:21:05.140 shrinking a little bit so it'll be interesting to see if any of this 32 18 is the last one i've seen

00:21:10.360 still a nice big still he's still 14 points it's his to lose right yes if he was a great candidate

00:21:16.760 then he's not which he's not he's a terrible candidate he loses you know i mean he's lost every time

00:21:21.880 he's tried to run for president and really been buried you know yeah two times yeah if he if he

00:21:27.260 has a chance i mean this is his chance to win he walks in here as a with a massive lead he's got a

00:21:32.800 field of 27 24 people 17 of which are at zero or one percent so i mean there is not a lot like the

00:21:39.420 field feels really big but there's not a lot of competitors there even when they when he came out

00:21:43.720 for their pet project uh the climate change stuff yesterday they bashed him on that because that

00:21:50.160 that was plagiarized he didn't give credit to the person who wrote that bill did aoc have to put

00:21:56.360 up with that when she released they don't believe him on that they want a a hardcore socialist yeah

00:22:04.060 they do you know they want did you see what aoc said yesterday about about uh your right to a profit

00:22:11.620 yeah yeah that it's not a right before your privilege of profit comes the right to everyone

00:22:19.260 having a decent house she's frightening she's terrifying but the people you know behind her

00:22:25.360 the same people behind bernie sanders and they're the same people behind you know i'm pretty much all

00:22:30.800 of them except for joe biden and biden i read or read a very sad article the other day about how

00:22:40.020 the relationship between biden and obama and that like obama apparently you know encouraged him

00:22:47.660 pretty strongly not to run in 2016 because they you know it was hillary's thing and she's the one 0.65

00:22:54.900 that's going to do this and blah blah blah so their team really came at him and of course he was going

00:22:59.020 through his the death of his son so he found a way to not run essentially and of course like

00:23:04.680 you know and regretted it yeah who knows what would have happened obviously yeah um now there's been

00:23:10.600 these conversations you know you have people a lot of the obama people have moved on to other campaigns

00:23:15.400 they're working for other candidates obama is not coming out and and endorsing anyone he's just

00:23:23.040 kind of hanging back and he's helped he has helped and this is a big thing he did give the 2012 email

00:23:28.720 list to joe biden which is huge i mean as far as fundraising and everything else so it's not like

00:23:33.360 there's been no cooperation but like there's just no but he's not he's not yeah he's not supporting him

00:23:37.780 yeah it's sad other than the email list because obama can't obama is looked at as well i don't think

00:23:44.460 he wants to either i don't think so either but he's he's looked at on the left is almost a glenn

00:23:49.460 back now he is not fashionable with them at all no he is not the guy who they look at him as like

00:23:56.200 you were kind of a traitor like i use yourself as someone who's unfashionable look biden's still 0.71

00:24:02.000 winning the primary so i mean no i know that it's not that unfashionable but did you see no no i'm

00:24:06.060 saying i'm saying barack obama that barack obama is out of fashion with the left he's no longer

00:24:12.300 he's not a socialist although i think i think he is he's just he had the opportunity he wasn't a

00:24:18.280 revolutionary yeah he's got a big i mean his you think about what is a picking a vice president it

00:24:23.620 is a one person presidential election you wrote barack obama got to select essentially his successor

00:24:29.840 right if something happens to him who's the one person in the in the united states i want to be

00:24:34.220 president he picked joe biden now he's not endorsing joe biden like it is amazing right and do you guys

00:24:40.460 see when they asked him about that when they asked biden why isn't uh barack obama endorsing

00:24:45.240 you i i didn't want him to yeah i asked him not to and then he said and besides he didn't and then

00:24:52.400 he stops himself offer but yeah he didn't want to endorse me but i told him no i don't want your

00:24:58.820 endorsement i look i want to give the rest of these kids a fighting chance and that would just

00:25:03.920 make it too unfair that's that's ridiculous it's it's asinine and it is ridiculous from obama obama 0.52

00:25:10.480 should be endorsing him yeah he's he made that he told us he stood in front of the american people

00:25:16.440 and said hey if i if i get sick if i get injured if i if i can keep his doctor no no not that oh you

00:25:25.700 cannot keep your doctor but you can keep joe biden if i have to leave office for whatever reason

00:25:30.400 the one person who should lead this country is joe biden but i don't think anybody listened to that

00:25:35.080 because if that was it if i get sick he followed it with i can keep my doctor if i get sick you can

00:25:43.180 keep joe biden we wouldn't have obamacare today if that was the promise

00:25:48.420 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:25:54.120 hey it's glenn and if you like what you hear on the program you should check out pat gray unleashed

00:26:08.960 his podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast journalist and a profile

00:26:15.100 in courage laura logan joins us now laura nice to nice to meet you and nice to have you on the

00:26:21.960 program well thank you for having me i appreciate it um let's let's get right into what you're doing

00:26:29.200 recently and then i'd like to kind of open it up to uh more broad on uh on the media and what to

00:26:36.360 expect and what we can what we can do to change things but you've been down on our border uh and

00:26:43.080 strangely you have a different report than what the mainstream media is giving everyone

00:26:48.240 well you know to be honest i don't watch uh what the mainstream media is giving everybody

00:26:54.120 especially when i'm working right because my job is well i'm focused on doing my job yeah i'm not

00:27:00.240 i'm not too worried about what other people are doing and a wise old correspondent told me many years ago

00:27:06.260 that he you know every day he goes out and he does his best and he doesn't worry about his

00:27:10.680 competition and some days he's the best and some days uh he's not so um but it's not surprising to

00:27:18.120 me that it's different because i know where i go um people all the time along the border in all

00:27:24.060 different capacities keep saying nobody is telling our story nobody is is is talking about this nobody's

00:27:31.260 telling the truth of you know it's not that people are lying about the border it's not that there's

00:27:36.160 it's just that there's more than one story the only story is not simply a story of you know of um

00:27:42.640 of poor people who want to move to the united states to improve their lives that is one part of the

00:27:48.040 story and it's a very important part of the story and i can honestly tell you i've had moments where

00:27:52.900 you know i've been flying into my um my basically my pretty uh crappy bed in my pretty crappy hotel

00:28:00.160 at night and i've uh just about wanted to cry thinking about the people who don't um don't even

00:28:06.320 know you know the people i've seen with their children and all the rest of it i mean i've got a

00:28:10.720 big heart and that breaks my heart but it's only one part of the story so you know my job as a reporter

00:28:17.500 has always been to understand the full context and cover as much of the story as i can and that's all

00:28:23.660 i'm trying to do so there are there are the the sins of omission and i think that's what people

00:28:29.800 are committing by saying that this is the only part of the story and you're right i've been down

00:28:34.700 at the border myself and you know we raised we raised money to bring you know food and comfort down to

00:28:40.760 some of the children that were there in in uh during the obama administration i tried to get the

00:28:46.820 media to pay attention to the cages you're not allowed to talk about that i know i know i know but it

00:28:52.000 it doesn't happen and and it it shows this real bias and i i don't want to dwell on this one words

00:28:58.100 for you i've got one words for you i have actually spoken to people down there right across law

00:29:03.220 enforcement and border patrol who actually talk about when in a in a certain point in the obama

00:29:09.080 administration when they no longer wanted to deal with the deporter in chief title and the problem

00:29:15.540 of all the children that they had in detention basically in prison don't that some people like to

00:29:20.800 so-called cages um what did they do to actually border patrol agents then had orders where they

00:29:27.680 would have to intercept people who they found coming over the border in certain parts and they

00:29:32.760 would have to escort them back down to the border and send them back don't apprehend them don't create

00:29:39.240 a statistic don't create a problem for us let's just push you over the border then and pretend that this

00:29:46.360 is not happening that i can't say how widespread that was i can't say that it was everywhere but

00:29:53.320 i can tell you that it did happen and more than once so what is it that you're that people are saying

00:29:59.620 nobody's telling this story what are the important stories that we're not hearing well first and foremost

00:30:05.920 um what what people just leave out of the narrative is that this is almost like a theater it's not

00:30:12.920 it's a performance not for the people who are living it because they are they are like their pawns um it's a

00:30:21.220 theater for the cartels yes they make an enormous amount of money out of all the people that cross because

00:30:27.040 they take most of the smuggling fees they don't run the smuggling operations they're way too smart for that

00:30:32.320 they have professional human smuggling operations human trafficking organizations that are global who do the

00:30:38.700 smuggling for them but they pay most uh an enormous amount of what they earn they pay that to the

00:30:45.560 cartels the cartels decide the mexican cartels decide who crosses where they cross when they cross

00:30:51.800 and so if you imagine you're a pilot and you can see the whole border from the air um that's really how

00:30:57.280 the cartels operate you know it's divided up into the three main cartels now the sinaloa cartel the

00:31:02.680 delft cartel and what used to be called the zetas that's now cartel del nostre del nostre but um those

00:31:09.260 are the three main cartels that control the traffic and the reason you have people coming in all these

00:31:14.340 difficult places one of the reasons a big reason is that the cartels know if they split the resources

00:31:22.060 of border patrol if um if you've got a group of five people a group of ten people and they all run in

00:31:28.080 different directions how many agents does it now take to stop them you know so that's exactly what

00:31:34.420 they're doing they're splitting the resources pilots have described to me for example in parts of the

00:31:38.480 border seeing uh groups of anywhere between 50 and 200 crossing at exactly the state at the same time

00:31:45.180 at the crossing points sort of you know 100 yards um from each other right so imagine in five different

00:31:52.060 places separated by 100 yards you have hundreds of people so what does that do in one tiny little

00:32:00.160 tiny little town on the border in uh texas on the rio grande valley they have they have border patrol

00:32:07.220 facilities that are built to house a maximum of 116 people last weekend they had over 1100 over 1100

00:32:16.260 in one weekend and they have people every single day and that's just one weekend this has been going on

00:32:21.340 for months and months and months so in these places where people get um you know uh people get told

00:32:28.380 all the time texans for example texans are a bunch of racist rednecks right and texas don't care about 0.92

00:32:33.920 people look they don't recognize the children of illegal immigrants born in the country look at all

00:32:37.720 the evil things people in texas do they put illegal immigrants under bridges in terrible weather to

00:32:42.880 suffer well literally you've got border patrol agents looking at at me with desperation saying

00:32:48.420 we don't know where else to put people you've got um churches in el paso who the ngos have run out of 0.98

00:32:56.720 capacity right the ngos that come from new york and other parts of the country that like to do

00:33:01.840 interviews in the paper sometimes about everything they're doing down on the border except they've run

00:33:06.980 out of capacity and um it's the local people in many of these places who are um trying to bear you know to

00:33:14.720 help in some ways and the other you know there's another really important thing that that um gets

00:33:20.560 left out of the narrative which um is that the large majority of border patrol agents are hispanic

00:33:27.960 americans or mexican americans or whatever you want to call them they're not you know it's not just um

00:33:33.780 these evil white men who are trying to um stop people coming into this this country it's not that at

00:33:40.860 all in fact it's much more complex and in some of these towns the vast majority of the people who

00:33:46.320 live there are hispanic american and um and and you know texas itself has a history that's very much

00:33:53.840 wrapped up in mexico and the first president of texas was mexican and when you look at the history

00:34:00.700 here these these um two people they you know i'm not painting a picture of nirvana there's always issues

00:34:06.000 between people but it's very different to what people say it is from a distance it's the reality

00:34:11.440 is is not much like that at all and i have i have um i have yet to meet anyone who wants these uh

00:34:20.140 people to suffer or who is deliberately cruel to people and you know my experience is limited to

00:34:25.000 my experience you know but um but i will tell you this when you say these people are pawns they are

00:34:32.680 they're being i feel horrible for them because if in in in some cases not all cases but in many cases

00:34:40.120 i think if i were on the other side of the border and i saw that america really didn't care about its

00:34:46.320 borders and they were going to give away free citizenship and i could get my family there and

00:34:52.380 my family doesn't we're living in a town that maybe has violence but doesn't have any real chance for

00:34:58.260 my kids you're damn right i'd be over here i would absolutely do it because i would think that

00:35:04.120 america didn't really care and they were offering citizenship so take that chance for my children to 0.94

00:35:11.280 be able to have a better life that that they those people are being preyed on by all these different

00:35:18.140 groups that have all different agendas including the drug cartels that are holding back some family

00:35:25.720 members and saying look we're gonna sell you this and we'll bring them over you do us a favor we'll do

00:35:31.100 you a favor and then we'll send your your relative over and i mean we're importing people and enslaving 1.00

00:35:37.340 people to to some of these drug cartels oh no we're doing the bidding of the drug cartels yes whether

00:35:44.100 wittingly or unwittingly that's happening um and i can tell you i can add to what you're saying glenn

00:35:50.180 how about if you were watching or listening to commercials on the radio which tell you go to

00:35:55.660 america you're going to get a house you're going to get land you're going to get a job you're going

00:35:59.520 to get this or that and then add to that the fact that you know i mean one of um one of my most trusted

00:36:06.760 most at the person that i respect most in the world my producer max mcclellan he went and did a story in

00:36:12.920 a series of reports in honduras he was actually with a family when they said goodbye to their 15 year old

00:36:19.300 daughter and sent her to a better life in america and you can imagine right i mean he's a dad he's

00:36:24.840 got a daughter i have two daughters and a son i mean what could be more heartbreaking than that

00:36:29.320 i mean it's it's really painful for me to even imagine being in that situation but they don't even

00:36:36.040 know if their daughter is actually going to a real job in america there's so much sex trafficking and

00:36:43.100 you imagine sending your 15 year old daughter into nobody does that unless they are absolutely 0.96

00:36:49.880 desperate or they um have no other options right nobody nobody i mean the family the you know the

00:36:55.800 mother was sobbing the father was crying the daughter was crying you can imagine that's a very

00:37:00.320 painful thing so but her chance she has a significant chance of being raped along the way when people come 1.00

00:37:06.600 from latin america they get to the first stash house inside of mexico people get raped at the

00:37:11.040 stash houses and then there's another stash house you know there's other stash houses all along the

00:37:15.740 way but right on the um mexican side close to the border and then more stash houses when you cross the

00:37:21.680 border and i've um you know i've been looking at doing stories on this we have reports of different

00:37:26.760 people who get raped at every one of those locations along the way and then you know but we still

00:37:32.900 we're still trying to find someone who has been through that to talk about it because these things are

00:37:37.300 very difficult to cover and also because um because you know it's very easy to tear these um stories apart

00:37:44.120 this is here i have one for you this is the only time in my career as a journalist a professional

00:37:50.420 where i have uh looked at um at the statistics of rape and sexual abuse right trying to figure out

00:37:58.660 okay how many how prevalent is this what exactly are the facts how what is the chance when you get on

00:38:06.460 that journey that this is going to happen to you how bad is it truly right and in this case um

00:38:12.680 this is one case where the media by and large says oh you can't prove that this is happening

00:38:19.140 oh you know yes there was this msf medicine the ngo they did a big study on it and they found that

00:38:26.000 you know at least 30 percent of uh of the women um making this journey get raped or sexually assaulted

00:38:32.340 but what do you have um many journalists turning around and saying then well they took a sample

00:38:37.980 of people um on their way to the u.s in mexico they didn't you know take everybody and they didn't

00:38:44.220 take everybody from every different country and so you get 15 reasons why the msf statistic is not

00:38:50.040 representative well you know isn't the standard the way we normally in the media treat rape and

00:38:55.320 sexual assault figures we always say it's the most underreported crime don't we doesn't that sound

00:39:00.340 familiar and it's just a small i'm only making it's a small irony that i that i noticed when i was

00:39:06.140 researching this story i thought wow all my professional life you know wherever i've been

00:39:11.440 people have said that uh there's you know if that's the official figure you can bet it's higher

00:39:17.000 more than that yes now here you have people actually defending human traffickers defending cartels

00:39:23.380 defending coyotes who rape people and saying well you know it's we we can't trust that so because it's not

00:39:30.080 fully representative you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:39:38.820 like listening to this podcast if you're not a subscriber become one now on itunes

00:39:53.720 and while you're there do us a favor and rate the show i don't know if you've seen netflix

00:39:58.120 uh their series uh our planet it's documentary uh and it's david attenborough blah blah blah and

00:40:04.220 everybody thinks oh it's beautiful and it's got all kinds of great information in it oh my gosh

00:40:07.920 these walruses are committing suicide uh there is a there is a researcher a zoologist with 35 years

00:40:15.900 of experience uh especially on arctic animals uh and um she said no no this is just netflix and

00:40:23.440 they're tragedy porn the climate hoax uh i don't know if you can put your kids in front of our

00:40:29.260 planet and just say oh yeah watch this it's great because it's full of nonsense uh and they're they're

00:40:36.340 saying these walruses are you know falling to their death because they're starving to death and there's

00:40:42.080 no ice and it's very sad it's awful to watch but she said that's not what's happening uh and susan is

00:40:48.700 with us now hello susan how are you i'm just fine thanks good morning uh so so tell me about the

00:40:54.600 walruses that are i mean just plunging to their death because there's no ice well in fact um the

00:41:01.960 whole the hollows of walrus these are mostly mothers with their calves um on these arctic beaches um

00:41:10.160 they're really natural events that are not caused by lack of sea ice they've always happened

00:41:16.540 and the the um herds come on on onto the shore um in large numbers because the walruses are more

00:41:27.720 abundant now than they were even uh um 50 years ago okay so they have they're like a boom and bust

00:41:36.780 society aren't they when yes they they go ahead no i was just going to say that that they they have

00:41:44.500 a tendency to the population builds higher and higher um and then but then it out they outstrip

00:41:51.780 their food supply and then animals starve and the population goes down until the um food supply can

00:41:59.640 rebuild and mostly they're eating clams and things like that that live on the uh bottom of the ocean

00:42:05.160 so what is this this haul out is what does that mean the haul out well walruses are purred animals they

00:42:14.880 really like to um stick together and in fact they really prefer to be tightly packed and so they um

00:42:23.960 group together the haul out just means grouping together and so when uh when there's sea ice available

00:42:30.800 they will haul out on the on the ice in fairly large groups and at other times they will haul out

00:42:38.480 on beaches and but they don't um they have been hauling out on beaches since the 1800s there's been

00:42:48.620 records going back um that of those haul outs both on the um coast of russia um near the bering sea and

00:42:57.720 also on the coast of alaska so this is a behavior that's quite natural for them and it really isn't

00:43:05.360 sea ice dependent it's something that happens in the late summer and fall um on a fairly regular basis

00:43:12.540 and so they've been doing this since we've started noticing them and and recording them and they go up

00:43:18.880 onto the beach or onto the rocks and they're all uh tightly packed in and and is it just kind of like

00:43:27.980 a whole bunch of you know puppies on a bed and you know somebody moves and another person moves and one

00:43:33.140 of the puppies would fall off the bed i mean they're not committing suicide and they're they're just they're

00:43:38.220 just so packed tightly that is that what's happening exactly exactly and and the other thing is that they

00:43:45.020 they're also quite easily spooked at that point in time because these are mostly mothers with their 1.00

00:43:51.060 calves they're very protective and if if one of the animals at the back of the pack sort of on the beach

00:43:58.980 side gets frightened and starts heading for the water because that's their natural instinct when

00:44:04.680 they're frightened then they sort of push the herd ahead of them and in fact hundreds of animals can be

00:44:11.800 trampled even along a flat beach but if they've managed to get themselves up onto a high cliff then

00:44:19.760 there's no alternative to but to fall over the edge and it's not only certain that that's what happened

00:44:28.440 um in the netflix video but we know from um reports that were um issued in the newspaper that

00:44:37.280 there was and polar bears had actually spooked walruses off the same cliff that was filmed in

00:44:45.120 that video two days before it was filmed so wait a minute so wait because in that film it shows all

00:44:50.840 these walruses down at the bottom of the pile of rocks and you think oh my gosh they're just they're

00:44:56.360 just all dying and wish there was just an ice slope there to just gently push them back in the water

00:45:02.020 but you're saying not only is it normal and natural for them to go up on the rocks and then

00:45:08.380 have no place to go but over the cliff but you're saying that that big pile was also partly caused by

00:45:15.420 polar bears and them up at the top of the cliff going oh crap oh crap oh crap and backing up over

00:45:20.460 the cliff yes absolutely oh my gosh yeah and because we know that there was this incident that was

00:45:28.320 initiated by polar bears um that happened just two days before we know that most of those

00:45:36.500 animals that were filmed um the carcass because our carcasses laying along the beach um almost

00:45:43.360 certainly happened that in the from the polar bear spooked incident and what we think happened was that

00:45:52.280 there were members from um world wildlife foundation or um the wwf who were on site at the time and part of

00:46:02.880 the whole netflix team called that the film crew in to come and film the walruses oh my gosh and so it was

00:46:13.800 really a whole contrived setup and in looking at what was happening we know that there were still polar

00:46:21.980 bears in the area i've seen the film in fact the closing shot shows a polar bear coming out of the

00:46:29.060 water onto the beach to feed on the walruses the dead walruses and but when you're looking at how the

00:46:38.480 the whole footage was shot um there's a a cameraman positioned just about at the place where the walruses

00:46:47.340 could have come safely down from the cliff but that was that way was blocked and if there were still

00:46:54.660 polar bears in the area they could have been coming up from on the back side of the cliff or at least

00:46:59.940 the walruses could have smelled them even that would have set them off what we also know is that some of

00:47:06.400 the shots in the film had to have been taken with a drone now even a drone flying overhead could also

00:47:14.040 have spooked them so we've got a situation where the filmmakers themselves this is unbelievable

00:47:21.360 could have been complicit in um in generating at least the walruses that filmed that fell that they

00:47:30.260 filmed and then they attributed all of that to a lack of sea ice blamed on climate change

00:47:37.200 so how much of how much of these series because my son watches them my daughter watches them i've

00:47:43.960 watched them and there's times when i rolled my eyes and gone okay but i like i didn't know all this

00:47:49.400 about the walruses how much of these things can we even sit down and let our kids watch

00:47:55.720 and trust that it's true well i think really what the only thing that you can do is let your kids watch

00:48:05.900 it i mean it's beautiful photography that's beautiful there's no there's no doubt that it

00:48:11.500 actually is um you know parts of it are true i mean the haul outs are true but you you have to

00:48:19.640 take the commentary with a grain of salt but you also have to be prepared ahead of time to talk to

00:48:26.640 your kids about the fact that everything that is said there might not be true and hey maybe we should

00:48:33.640 follow up and look into this and they've said that this this is why this happened let's go and look

00:48:40.540 up to see you know what the background information is on that and i think that if parents are prepared

00:48:48.000 to follow up with their kids um and to look into that that um but it makes it a learning experience

00:48:56.520 susan i i gotta tell you i you know they don't have access to a zoologist like you like i do uh and

00:49:04.340 you go online i'm sure wwf and uh uh you know and all of these global warming um institutions have

00:49:16.620 have rushed to put things out that say it is true i mean how do you know what's true how do you know

00:49:23.680 what a trusted source is on actual science anymore no well that is true for sure and but what you can

00:49:31.500 do i mean it's one of the reasons that i've been blogging about polar bears since 2012 and that's to

00:49:37.740 actually make sure that the information is up there for people to find on the internet now people might

00:49:45.800 say well how do i trust you however what i do is make sure that i list the sources where i get my

00:49:53.020 information from so that people can follow it up but at the very least when there's information like

00:49:58.920 that available you can say oh okay well there's two sides to this story this person's saying this

00:50:04.140 this person's saying that then maybe i have to leave that any interpretation um up in the air

00:50:12.040 and just say that it can't none of it can be trusted and and that's really uh

00:50:18.240 an awful place for science to be in okay uh susan thank you so much for being on with us

00:50:26.060 um we really appreciate your time her name is susan crockford uh she is a zoologist and author of the

00:50:32.560 book the polar bear catastrophe that never happened uh you can read her article netflix is lying about

00:50:38.760 those falling walruses at the financial post uh and her website is polarbearscience.com that's polarbearscience.com

00:50:49.000 the blaze radio network

00:50:50.940 on demand

The Glenn Beck Program - June 05, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Lara Logan & Susan Crockford ｜ 6⧸5⧸19

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript