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Kamala Harris has been accused of plagiarizing pages of congressional testimony and a fictionalized story about human trafficking. On today's show, journalist Aaron Salsbery talks about her plagiarism and why it's important. Plus, former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joins the show to talk about election interference from her country.
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On today's podcast, Aram Saberiam is right out of the gate to talk about Kamala's track record with plagiarism
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and what his investigating had brought to life and why it's important.
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Also, lucky to have former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joining the program today,
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talking about what appears to be election interference from her country instead of, let's say, Russia, Russia, Russia.
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Plus, my new book, Propaganda Wars, is on sale now at glennsnewbook.com or wherever books are sold.
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Justin Haskins returned for more of the stories that we couldn't get to yesterday.
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We are looking today into digital fakes, deep fakes, and why is it important in the next two weeks.
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Plus, on the full show, part two of our series for undecided voters.
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Kamala Harris plagiarized pages of congressional testimony from a Republican colleague,
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plus a fictionalized story about human trafficking.
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Remember, this is what ended Joe Biden's presidential campaign.
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So, first, tell us what the new charges are on plagiarism.
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The main ones are that she plagiarized pages of congressional testimony from a Republican
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He was a state attorney of Winnebago County, Illinois, at the same time that she was district
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He testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee in February of 2007.
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And two months later, Harris testifies to the House Judiciary Committee about the same
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bill and just lists almost all of what he said, word for word, typos and all.
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And then the second, I mean, there's other allegations, but the other one that I think
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is serious is that in one of her reports as attorney general, she plagiarized a fictionalized
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So, the story names and details have been changed to ensure confidentiality.
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The source of the story said this is only for informational purposes, you know, implying
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basically don't quote it as if it's a real thing.
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But Harris plagiarized it anyway, and the only detail she changed was the location in
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The human trafficking victim was supposedly from Washington, D.C.
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Harris changes that to San Francisco so that her office is, in effect, taking credit for
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The congressional record is disturbing in this case.
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She was asked to come up and defend something and talk about why a bill should be passed.
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And she or her staff, they didn't have any original ideas.
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They are just taking it from somebody else, which a state attorney general should have
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So, she takes somebody's opinion and just uses it, mistakes and all.
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But this one shows she's willing to take a fake story and make it into something that would
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Yeah, I think it is somewhat morally suspect at the very least.
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Then, of course, we don't know whether Harris herself is the one who wrote this or whether
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Though, of course, I think that that raises this further question about what kind of staffers
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are in Kamala Harris's orbit and what kinds of people does she attract to work for her?
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Yeah, I mean, I've hired people that, you know, provide information for me on the show every
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If we get it wrong, I take responsibility for it because they work for me.
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But she hasn't even answered a question on any of these.
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And I've seen that her campaign, I think it was her campaign, came out and said, blamed
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I don't know if her campaign has, but there was the guy who she plagiarized for the congressional
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His speculation, which I think is plausible, is that there's this group called the National
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District Attorneys Association that wrote, you know, kind of an opening statement for
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And then it probably separately wrote a statement for Harris and staffers from that organization
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must have copied and pasted a lot of the language.
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Of course, the only way it would end up in the testimony is if Harris just kind of took
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the pre-drafted statement that this outside group gave her and made very, very few edits
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to it, which, again, you know, it's not a great defense because you think that if you're
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going to testify, you put more of an original spin on it.
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Don't just take something that was sort of pre-drafted for you by a professional association,
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So the campaign has called the claims of plagiarism a partisan attack.
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That's kind of like Tim Walz saying, I'm a knucklehead, I think.
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But they were talking about the book, Smart on Crime, A Career Prosecutor's Plan to Make
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Us Safer, where she had kind of a lot of plagiarism in that.
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Why should this, what should this say to the average American voter?
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Look, I don't think anyone seriously believes that plagiarism is the most important issue
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But if you look at how past plagiarism scandals were treated, they were often seen as kind
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of metaphors or stand-ins for candidates' weaknesses.
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So Joe Biden, right, it became a kind of symbol of, like, hubris that derailed his, I think
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With Melania Trump, when she plagiarized a couple paragraphs from Michelle Obama's Democratic
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convention speech, A, the media was all over it, and B, you had articles run saying, well,
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Trump, you know, the Trump campaign is denying that this was plagiarism, and that denial is
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So they were perfectly comfortable treating the plagiarism, not even of Donald Trump, but
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of his wife as, like, a metaphor for what was wrong with him.
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And so I think it's only fair, right, if we're going to, you know, be consistent with the
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standards to ask, well, what might the plagiarism say or symbolize about Kamala Harris?
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And I think in this case, it does track pretty closely with the deeper criticism that's been
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made against her campaign, namely that she doesn't really have many original ideas.
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She just copies, prompts, or flip-flops on a dime.
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And look, I mean, that's really the deeper issue, and I think the plagiarism maybe symbolizes that.
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Yeah, I think, you know, you look at the NBC interview that she did last night, where
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they're pretty much begging her, can you define yourself?
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And she can't, and she's using regurgitated lines over and over, the same lines, over and
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Um, that, with the plagiarism, says she may not know who she is, uh, because she can't
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She's not comfortable with it for some reason or another.
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I don't think anybody's going to vote about the plagiarism thing.
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Uh, but I think it does, uh, say an awful lot about her, or maybe just confirms what
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we feel, what everybody instinctively feels about her.
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Aaron, thank you so much for, uh, everything that you do and the free beacon.
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Uh, all right, so last night she, uh, did an interview.
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Did you, did you see that she took the day off yesterday?
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You're, you're what, 13 days away from the election of your life?
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Do you ever remember ever seeing a candidate in the last two weeks of the election take a
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I don't remember that, but, uh, it would certainly, it was certainly check, you know,
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Uh, but other than, I mean, that's, and there's reasons for that.
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Again, we've just seen one of those happen over the past few weeks.
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Maybe they needed a day to kind of regroup as things are not going well, but it's a weird
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strategy to just take a day off to, even if you're just fundraising, you think you'd be
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He is the coauthor of the new book that we released yesterday called Propaganda Wars,
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how the global elite control what you see, what you think, and what you feel.
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Uh, first, let me start with something that is very disturbing that is going around.
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And, um, we mustn't repeat this because we don't know.
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Sensitive intelligence regarding a possible Israeli military action on Iran was leaked
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over the weekend from someone in the U.S. government.
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Now there's a lot of irresponsible reporting yesterday floating around social media.
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It claimed that the identity of the leaker was known, but we don't know yet who the culprit
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Formal accusations and charges have not been made.
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So why was social media so quick to point a finger?
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Well, it's because this point, at this point, it is not a question that there is a serious
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problem within the Biden-Harris administration's national security apparatus.
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It reminds me of another Democratic, uh, administration, Barack Obama.
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He was extremely comfortable with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Now fast forward a few years, and now the Democrats are in the same boat with Iran.
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And this is what happens when ideologues gain access and power within the Pentagon and the
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There are people that currently have jobs that clearly shouldn't have those jobs, much less
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Why is he still technically at the State Department, Biden and Harris's Iran envoy, who is under an
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FBI investigation for mishandling classified information?
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The woman who was accused of the current intelligence, and I want to make sure, accused of the current
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intelligence leak, was once part of a program called the Iran Experts Initiative.
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And it was used by Iran's Ministry of Foreign Affairs to carry out their agenda.
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And she is known to be in contact with and take advisory counsel directly from Iranian officials.
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Now she still has her clearance and her job at the Pentagon.
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Again, I fear when any side jumps to a conclusion when you don't know, and it is something as
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We don't know who is ultimately responsible for this latest leak, but we have actually have
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Radical political ideologues have given jobs to other radical ideologues at the very institutions
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that exist purely to keep our nation safe from our enemies who are radical ideologues.
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Give it time and give it a new administration, and you'll find out who leaked that sensitive
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Now there's another story that Justin saw over the weekend that goes right to propaganda wars.
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It fits perfectly with what we're trying to address in the book.
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Last week, there was a video that was circulating all over social media on platforms like X and
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others that showed a man claiming that Tim Walls, when he was a student, so when this man was
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a student in high school, Tim Walls was a teacher, the same high school, that Tim Walls sexually
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This is what this man was claiming in the video.
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And the man gave some biographical information about himself in the video that checked out
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with, there really is a person who went to that high school with that name and some other
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So a lot of people believed it and started sharing it and other things.
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So then, some reporters tracked down, tried to track down more information about this, and
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they discovered that the man in the video is not actually the man who he claims to be, and
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that the real person, whose name is Matthew Metro, says none of this is true, this is obviously
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not me in the video, this whole thing is made up.
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It's essentially like a staged deepfake without AI, right?
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So the national security director of national intelligence, they started looking into this,
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and what they claim is that Russia is the one that put this out.
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They're claiming that they've got evidence that the intelligence community agrees Russia
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is the one that created this video and put it on the internet with the obvious attempt
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I want you to notice the difference between the Trump-Russia-Russia-Russia of 2016, where
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the DNI did not act to say there are no pee tapes of Donald Trump in Moscow.
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For months it went on, when the FBI knew all the time that this was from a former FBI asset
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Then look at last election with Hunter Biden's laptop.
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Well, how do we believe anybody today that it's Russia?
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Russia, so why would the DNI, the director of national intelligence, rush to squash this?
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Do you, A, believe that if that was said by somebody about Donald Trump, that it would
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Yeah, and the framing of all of this from both the intelligence community, certain elements
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of the intelligence community, and from the Harris-Walls campaign is very clear.
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This is all about spreading misinformation and disinformation to help Donald Trump win
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They flat out said, this is from Morgan Finkelstein, who's a spokesperson for Harris-Walls, Vladimir
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Putin wants Donald Trump to win because he knows Trump will roll over and give him anything
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That is the craziest, that is the craziest thing.
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He was harder on Russia than Barack Obama was, and certainly harder than Biden-Harris.
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The guy was tough as nails on Russia and China.
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He knows who Putin is, and so he treats him like that.
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And people will say, yeah, well, he treats him awfully kindly.
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Is it a problem to have a rattlesnake as a pet?
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So you would think that it's not okay to have a rattlesnake.
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I think it's perfectly fine to have a rattlesnake as a pet, as long as you always remember it's
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You start treating it like a puppy dog, and it will bite and kill you.
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If you treat it as a rattlesnake, you too will get along fine.
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He knows that's a rattlesnake, but they can get along because he never forgets that's
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And then so then I think what's really important about this story is this is part of a growing
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trend that we're seeing from the government now.
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State Department came out and said, we're putting a $10 million bounty on a Russian, because
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we want to find out the identities of a Russian media company called Rybar.
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We don't know who's behind this media company, Rybar.
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And the framing of this is that Rybar is posting all of these fake news stories all over the
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They don't know who's behind it, but it's clearly a Russian operation.
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Listen to the framing of the story from The Telegraph, who is reporting about this.
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It says, Rybar, better known for its pro-Kremlin coverage of Russia's invasion of Ukraine,
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is using the channels to sow discord and stoke racial tensions in an attempt to sway the
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U.S. election, according to officials in Washington.
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The State Department is offering this $10 million bounty.
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Rybar has over 1 million subscribers on Telegram, the instant messaging and social media platform.
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It was said the Russian bloggers were behind two social media channels, hold the line and
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stand with Texas, that have been used to, quote, promote Russian governmental political
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The hashtags are synonymous, it says, with Republican supporters.
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And the whole idea here is these are all pro-Republican, pro-Donald Trump stories that
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So now you have the State Department saying, well, we got to hunt these people down because
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they're causing all this misinformation and disinformation.
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Why are they, we're only a couple of weeks from the election.
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All of a sudden, the national, the State Department and the intelligence community, all of these
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people are now saying, uh-oh, Russia is swaying everybody.
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They're putting out all this crazy misinformation and people are getting confused.
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And this is all because Russia wants Trump to win.
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And I am very concerned that they are setting the table.
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As crazy as it sounds, because they did this already once before, it seems like they're setting
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the table for if Donald Trump wins, they have a really convenient excuse for why it happened.
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It involves a nefarious player overseas who's a dictator that they get to investigate and demand
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more investigations and was Donald Trump in collusion with them and all of this crazy stuff that we
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I think they're setting the table for it again to delegitimize Donald Trump.
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And they have to do something to delegitimize him.
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If he wins, they've got to come up with something.
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And they are doing, I can guarantee you, I have no evidence myself, but I can guarantee
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Do you not think they're sowing discord here as well?
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How come we haven't heard anything about China at all?
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And in our book, Propaganda Wars, we point out all of this.
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We talk about the main players who were behind the creation of Rybar and all these people.
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We don't mention Rybar, but we talk about Pregosin, who was the former head of the Wagner Group.
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After trying to do a coup in Moscow, and then Putin said, you know what?
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And then I'm going to send you on a trip on this special little plane.
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I mean, that's the guy who's behind all of this.
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And they said at the time that when that all went down and Pregosin was killed and everything,
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Putin came out and said, I'm shutting down all these misinformation, disinformation factories
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They just reimagined them with people who are not loyal to Pregosin.
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And what's really, I think, disturbing about it is a lot of this stuff is kind of crude.
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This isn't like really advanced forms of misinformation, disinformation.
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Why would Russia crudely put these things out where anyone, they have a video of a guy
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claiming to be another person who's still alive, and it's obviously not him.
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Justin is the co-author with me on my new book, Propaganda Wars, How the Global Elite
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Now, next hour, I'm going into something that's not Russia.
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England is now proven to be a culprit in a real foreign election interference story.
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It was leaked now, their plans as an advisory group with close ties to the prime minister of the current Socialist or Labor Party,
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And I have the former prime minister, Liz Truss on with me in about 45 minutes.
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You don't want to miss this conversation because they are interfering and they are engaged directly with the Harris campaign.
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But nobody is paying attention to this in the press.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast.
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Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts.
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The former prime minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth, or Liz Truss.
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All right, so, you know, we, I don't know if you remember this, but we met earlier this year and we just had exchanged a few words, but in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought I, this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was.
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And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country, but England as well.
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Um, they're going in a different direction than what they're telling people.
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And it was only, I'd been a government minister for 10 years and it was only when I got into number 10 Downing Street that I understood the full scale of what we were up against.
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It's the left have successfully captured the institutions in Britain and it is going to be a very, very big struggle to be able to change things here.
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And, you know, we now have an even worse situation.
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We have a socialist government that want to try and cancel free speech.
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Millionaires are leaving Britain at a faster rate than any other country in the world at the moment.
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So we are in a very, a very, very difficult situation.
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And the, the Labour Party are going for free speech.
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You'll be aware that they've attacked X, they've attacked Elon Musk repeatedly because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth of what is happening.
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So there is a story that was just, uh, released yesterday, internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising Kamala Harris campaign.
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Uh, the internal plans show the group in writing, uh, plans to, quote, kill Musk's Twitter while strengthening its ties with Biden-Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.
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So, it's showing that something that is in your country, started in your country, partly funded by us, and now brought into our administration, is actively working with our administration, and I would assume in some ways your administration, not yours, but, you know, the, um, the administration of Great Britain, uh, to silence speech.
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We're, we're, our governments are in cahoots doing really bad things to the public, are they not?
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And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the prime minister.
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So this man is incredibly senior within the Labour Party's administration, and there have been numerous public attacks on X by the prime minister.
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Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk, but the mentality isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain.
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The mentality is to try and quash any dissent and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us.
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For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration into this country.
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So we have a very worrying government, and I've been following the US elections and comments by Hillary Clinton, comments by members of the Democrat campaign, and it seems to be the same thing going on.
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Not only, not only are they putting in place these disastrous policies, they're also trying to stop anybody talking about them.
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I've been talking about this for a while and I've been trying to get people to understand this is not about left versus right, Democrat versus Republicans.
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This is about elites and against the people, and the people know they're being lied to.
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How can there be a problem throughout the entire West of illegal immigration at the scale we've never seen ever before in the history of the modern world?
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And our press in every single country is treating it exactly the same as are the administrations.
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It doesn't work out mathematically to be a coincidence.
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They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain not telling the truth about what's happening and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences.
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And you started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system.
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The English people, the British people, are very much concerned about illegal immigration.
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And it is the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to know.
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So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you?
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Well, what happened to me was the Bank of England were, and they've admitted this since, were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022.
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But the British media adopted the narrative that it was my fault.
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So they took the narrative from the Labour Party, from the Bank of England, and they simply repeat it.
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And they repeat it to this day, even though the Bank of England has put out an official report saying two thirds of it was their fault.
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And what I think has changed about the media is it's no longer a neutral arbiter.
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It is pushing a particular narrative and a particular agenda.
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If you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested in what the truth of the situation is.
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Even the reporting of President Trump's visit to McDonald's.
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I mean, it's just some ludicrous, ludicrous media commentary on that.
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It's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain.
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I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.
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And I don't think he could do it if he wasn't the richest man in the world.
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If he goes down, there is no gatekeeper in power currently today that will keep the gate of freedom of speech alive.
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And in the United States, you have the First Amendment.
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We're in a worse position for the protection of freedom of speech.
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And we have seen people very recently jailed for things that they put on social media.
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They might not be wise things that they put on social media.
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But there are other people being let out of jail who've committed very serious crimes.
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I saw a story from England that was a pedophile, got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media.
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But the person who was a pedophile didn't have the same kind of sentence at all.
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And what has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable.
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And it was Tony Blair's government that took away the accountability from our judiciary.
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And they outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians have now been outsourced to the bureaucracy.
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So, are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus that, quite honestly, has the intellectual power of the world at the universities, has the money of the corporations, the power of the state, the power of the media, this is going to be really hard to kill.
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Are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?
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The number one thing is the people are on our side.
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And you saw that in Britain at the last election where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated that whoever they vote for into office, they get the same policies.
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It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election in the United States.
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Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech.
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Especially in collusion with Starmer in England, Great Britain.
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Can I ask you, the Labour Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States as long as there's no money changing hands.
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But I'd like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas.
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But you have 100 people from the Labour Party, the Socialist Party now, coming over to the United States and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising, but actually on the street working for her campaign.
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No, and given the ruination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think that is what they want in the United States.
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Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda, because we're not doing fracking.
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These are the kind of policies these people are advocating.
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So I don't think any American would want to listen to them.
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I think there's a question, though, these people who are coming over, who's paying for their airfares?
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If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would the people of Great Britain react?
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Well, it would be a problem because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen to donate to the campaign.
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And if the Americans have flown over, who's paying for their flights?
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That would count towards election expenses and it would be classed as a foreign donation, which is illegal.
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Liz, I can't thank you enough for joining the program.
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I think you are really, really a clear thinker.
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I would love to have you on for a longer broadcast and go through that because I'm fascinated by what you saw and how your eyes were opened the minute you walked into the Prime Minister's home of, you know, 10 Downing Street.
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She is the former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.