Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Lunden Roberts & Bridget Phetasy ｜ 7⧸30⧸24
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Summary
London Roberts is the mom of the child who is the granddaughter of President Joe Biden. She has come out with real compassion for the granddaughter named Navy. Also, we talk about how weird the media is getting on the word "weird." Also, Bridget Phetasy joins us.
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Hey, for Tuesday, a great show. Stu and I bring you lots of things. The interview with London
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Roberts. You know who she is? She's the mom of the child who is the granddaughter of President
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Biden. It's a really compelling interview. I don't know how you'll feel about it. I didn't
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know how I felt about all of it. But you really come out with real compassion for the granddaughter
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named Navy. That also we talk about how weird the media is getting on the word weird. Also
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Bridget Phetasy joins us. It's a great show. You're going to have a lot of fun because it's
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frankly, it's weird and we're weird. You know what I mean? Like J.D. Vance weird. Hey, keep
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J.D. Vance weird. Sometimes saving lives means spending years in medical school and taking
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crippling student loans. I don't believe in college, universities anymore. Well, I don't
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really either. But if you want to be a doctor, you should probably get a good education on
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that one before you cut me up. Anyway, there are other ways to save lives that don't require
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you to take on all kinds of education and loans. And that is by standing up for the right
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to life at the beginning and the end and everything in between. All life is sacred.
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And I've always, you know, I don't like the guys who drive abortion trucks, you know, with
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all the abortion pictures on and stuff, because I don't think that ever changes anybody's mind.
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We have to speak to the heart. And the left always tries to make us look like we don't care
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about the moms. We don't care about the situation. I care deeply about the situation. I have daughters.
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I know what they would be going through. And I know what I would be going through if they were
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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It's weird. Isn't this a weird day? What a weird day. It is so weird. These Republicans,
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have you noticed their policies? They're so weird. I have. They're weird. They're weird. You know,
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in fact, I have a, you know, what's really weird is this montage, uh, put together that shows all of
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everybody in the media and, uh, everybody on the left suddenly calling JD Vance weird. Here it is.
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Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird.
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These guys are just weird. That's where they are. As weird and creepy, uh, as JD Vance.
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Super weird idea from JD Vance. Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's quite weird. They're just plain weird.
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Just plain weird. Just plain weird. That stuff is weird. They come across weird and then they start
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being weird. Yeah, they're weird. Being a really weird. He's such a weirdo. Donald Trump and his weirdo
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running mate. They're weird. Deeply and profoundly weird. They are weird. These Republicans just
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being weird. It's just weird. It's really weird. Republican weirdness goes even deeper. He said a
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lot of things that are weird, a weird style that he brings, weird policies. Let's start with the weird
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thing because it is a thing. Just plain weird. What was weird was talking about Diet Mountain Dew.
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Who drinks Diet Mountain Dew? Whoever seen the guy laugh, that seems very weird to me that an adult can go
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through six and a half years of being in the public eye. If he has laughed, it's at someone,
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not with someone. That, that is weird behavior. Wow. Wow. Who, uh, who's writing the memos? This is
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unbelievable coordination. I mean, I stand in awe at the, the system the left has built to where they can
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get everyone to walk in lockstep overnight. Kamala Harris is horrible. She's the worst vice president.
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She is hated by everybody. She can't keep anybody on her staff. Um, uh, she is unlikable,
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unworkable. She's not the replacement overnight. She's a genius. She's a genius. You don't know how
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great she is. Did you know that? I mean, far from being very, very, very busy helping the president
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run the country every day. She's also a marvelous cook. There's a story out in the, I think it's in
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the New York times today about what a health addict she is and her, I mean, you have to see her exercise
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routine. It is unbelievable. They're all in lockstep. And I, you know, I know that this is true. We know
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this is, is the way it works, but it is awesome in its weirdness, creepiness, and quite honestly, uh,
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Orwellian way to watch this happen in real time. Now, let me tell you what I think they're doing.
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I think that they are very wisely changing the tone of the conversation and they're going with
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Kamala's weird laugh. Isn't that great? He's just weird. And they're trying to change the tone
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from, uh, a grumpy old man. You're a danger to the, uh, democracy to, it's just weird, isn't it?
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They're just weird. They are trying to soften themselves from the possibility of being a fascist
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dictator to just somebody like you that just looks at things and goes, that's weird, isn't it? Now you
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may not do that, but they're also trying to make it, uh, a campaign for the, the younger set,
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you know, those people that are, well, weirdly younger.
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I wouldn't, uh, I would not dismiss what they're doing right now.
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I think this is a, this coupled with, uh, uh, black women or white women for Kamala, black men
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for Kamala, uh, you know, one-legged Asians for Kamala. I just, I, I don't get it until you start
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to think perhaps, perhaps they are softening things by almost mocking themselves. That's the way they're
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not. But I think they are trying to appear as though it's all tongue in cheek.
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I think it's a good strategy if that's what they're doing. Uh, but it is, it's, uh, awesome
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It does seem like something like the white dudes for Kamala is a little bit tongue in cheek.
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They do seem to be playing that up a little bit, but I, I think it'd be the party of fun.
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Yeah. They're going to be party fun. Remember she said, and we're going to have a lot of fun with
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this. Aren't we Barack? We're going to have a lot of fun with this. It's, it's interesting that you
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bring this up because I had the same sort of thought yesterday as I was watching all this,
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you know, the weird coverage. And, um, I, I think we're probably in the minority. And I think that
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most people just look at this on the, on the right and just like, okay, they're just trying this crazy
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stuff. The only reason I would say it's notable is that they've tried the same tactic on Donald
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Trump for so long that he, it's like global warming, increasing levels of doom, right?
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Every time you talk about Donald Trump, it's, he's a fascist. He's a, he's a dictator. He's
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Hitler. He's going to stop democracy. And they just keep escalating. Oh, it's Handmaid's Tale.
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And they've tried that so many times, this one note strategy against him that I think trying
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anything different is probably wise for them. What they do now and they doesn't work and Trump knows
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how to respond to it. This is a little bit different. And so far, like it's been basically
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JD Vance on his heels saying, I'm not weird. I swear. I like children. Uh, I like, I like my kids
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and it's like, Oh, well that's crazy. It's weird. I mean, that's nonsense, especially with the stuff
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that they promote. Obviously it's crazy, but at least maybe is a little bit of a changeup from what
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they've done every other day for the past five years. Yeah. Because what you are, what you're
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doing is you're forcing the right into a school marm position. Oh, is that weird that we like
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children that we, that we think families are good? Well, you know, what's weird is the Paris
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Olympics with testicles popping out everywhere, right? And it is weird sound, even though you're
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accurate, you sound like the school marm. The, the, the happy warrior wins.
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I think that's their strategy, right? I think it could pay off. And it's a little bit of,
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again, I don't know that it works. Remember, this is a, this is a party that's losing, right? So
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trying something different is what you do in these moments. And so I'm just trying, I don't want to
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oversell it. Like this is some brilliant strategy. I'm just saying that changing here is probably wise,
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not to mention, it's one of those things you've talked about a million times, Glenn,
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of making your weakness, your strength. They are weird. What they want is weird. It's a very good
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descriptor of what they're trying to do to this country. It is very weird. It is very strange,
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but there's, they're saying it in a way to disarm the attack against them. Everyone knows the fact
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that we just had a presidential campaign launch on RuPaul's drag race is weird. That's weird.
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Having, pulling, taking the candidate who won the nomination and replacing him three months before
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an election is weird. All that stuff is weird, but they're almost using this in a way to, is that
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how you see it? Do you think they're trying to disarm the attack that's obviously more applicable to
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them? Yes. This isn't normal. This is weird. You know, this is weird. This has not happened before.
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It's none of this is, is, is normal. And so they immediately turn and go, you know, he's weird.
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He's really weird. Have you heard what they're saying? They're weird. And they're, they are
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bringing the temperature down. They are seeming like the fun people that they are. Cause she didn't
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really talk about anything. She didn't know what she'd say. I mean, I did, you know, the Venn diagrams.
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We're just having fun with this. That's all we're doing. We're just like you. That's what's happening.
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And it is, if that's what they're doing, I think it's brilliant and, and dangerous for the Republic
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because she is weird. She is not normal. She is not a traditional candidate. There is no way
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that Kamala Harris could ever become president unless you took her as the most unpopular candidate
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in the race. And you put her as the vice president. And then you had some guy who was
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so wildly incompetent and, uh, and so dangerous for the country that you put her in and you put
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her in at the last minute before anybody can really talk to her again and refresh everybody's mind,
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who she is, give her very little rope. She's got a very little time to offend everybody and to, uh,
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do anything but a soft shoe dance. That's the only way you get her in as president. No,
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no one, no Democrat would elect her. If it started back last year and she had debates,
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it would never work. And now you're going to be able to have the most, she is more progressive
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than Barack Obama. I don't think she's more progressive than big Mike, but she's much more
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progressive than Barack Obama. She believes it to the core of her being. And she is, she was raised
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by Berkeley professors. You know, what's weird. That's weird. The only way you can get her in
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is in a very short time period, have her come in when it's an emergency and everybody has to agree
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with her. Make sure that you got the press in lockstep and, and just, we're just having fun with
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this. We're not taking, you don't take that seriously. Like, Oh, I got to do that.
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Dangerous, very dangerous for our side. And I'm not saying she's going to win. I'm saying,
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don't take this lightly. It's a real threat to not only the candidacy, but also the country.
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What happened with the GOP convention? Why did everybody feel so good after that? Because it was
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happy and joyful. And that's something we haven't felt in a long time. We're used to people saying the
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worst things about one another. When they come out with something like weird, that's just weird.
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That's not offensive at all. And you can kind of laugh about that. It is kind of weird, isn't it?
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program and we really want to thank you for listening. I want to play a couple of things here. Just a couple
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of pieces of audio that I don't know I'm a little uncomfortable with. Here's white women for Kamala
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cut one about women's privilege. White women. I mean here we are. I have to admit when I was writing
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stuff down I was like Karen's for Kamala. I don't know. You know why is it so difficult as Glennon was
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saying to acknowledge and address ourselves as white women. But here we are and I am so proud for all of
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us to be together as women as white women. We are the ones that have the privilege of course and we
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too have had to fight and continue to fight for our equality, our selfhood, our freedom. But we have
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whatever privileges our male white male counterparts have had the mercy and good sense to bestow on us
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and then whatever else of it we have managed to take for ourselves. Often being led by as many have said
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earlier tonight the leadership of our sisters of color who have fought and fought and continue to
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fight for their righteous place on God's green earth. Yeah yeah so white women have the privilege
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they're now apparently the the ruling class I think I think that's what she was saying uh and she they
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wanted to make it very clear when they when they started this zoom call one of the influencers uh
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really wanted to make sure that nobody makes any mistakes on this phone call cut for I'm going to
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share some do's and don'ts for getting involved in politics online don't make it about yourself
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as white women we need to use our privilege to make positive changes if you find yourself talking
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over or speaking for BIPOC individuals or god forbid correcting them just take a beat and instead we
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can put our listening ears on so do learn from and amplify the voices of those who have been historically
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marginalized and use the privilege you have in order to push for systemic change as white people we
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have a lot to learn and unlearn so do check your blind spots okay all right well let's let's bring
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on Bridget Phetasy um and please please check your blind spot Bridget if you will please please
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acknowledge that I'm the most powerful person on this call right now yeah you are you have all the
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white women privilege and you're you really are going to be the one that turns this whole thing
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around you white women Glenn do you understand that it is up to me and my people to save the world
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literally save the world it is up to us if we don't get it together the world will end
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yeah they said that you I know you're you know that they said that yesterday that it is up to the
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white women oh my gosh do women I mean are there a lot of women that think this way that are like
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fine with you know what I just have to I have so much to learn and so little uh to say and so much
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to unlearn uh but I'm the most powerful person here what are you talking about oh my gosh it's such a
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weird humble brag in a strange way it's like at the same time you're saying you are you know I was
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saying this yesterday to you actually and talking to my friends about this you have to have the world
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view you have to start with the premise that it's it is actually white supremacy you have to believe
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you are better than everyone else and that it is up to you to lift up all of these people
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these poor people who can't help themselves and speak to everybody like their toddlers
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we need to put our listening ears on and talk oh my gosh like it's it's insanity but I do think it's a
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way for people I mean what is more important than saving the world while also somehow humbling
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yourself and recognizing your privilege it's it is it's still all ego it's so gross it's so gross
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is is this about this popular is is this gonna work Bridget I mean I don't know it's weird it's like I
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went offline for a couple days just to take a break from mainlining x and I came back on and it was like
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2016 with flavors of 2020 all over again and this didn't it didn't work in 2016 you know all of this
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like they I feel like oh we're just gonna run a very unlikable politician that people have openly said
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they don't like we're gonna astroturf the entire media with oh look at how cool this person is with
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celebrities and white dudes for harris and white women for kamala weird weird zoom calls we're gonna
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make it seem like this is all very popular except it's not and then they're gonna be out marching in
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their in their knitted pink hats you know the day after the election I mean I don't think this feels
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like it feels like um I I don't I don't know it feels manufactured to me all of it
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okay so let me ask you this you heard that everybody's now calling Trump and JD Vance weird and I think
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it's weird that everybody started saying it at the same time um and I think Bridget that this is
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this is a the new strategy where he was a danger to the republic people are so sick and tired of
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hearing all of this and they just want somebody just to be normal with them and so I think it's a way
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to have you know Donald Trump or whoever say the woman is a socialist and then they go you know
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they're just weird they're just weird I mean I'm more like you we're just laughing it off
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that seems to me to be a dangerous strategy for the right I'm I'm I'm obsessed with this weird
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thing this morning I was going down all these rabbit holes for numerous reasons one it's clearly like
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the memo went out and this is you know blatant astroturfing then there's the strange weaponization
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of the word weird by a party that has generally that has been cool coded it's been Lady Gaga was
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weird and her little monsters and this was something that was always very left-wing dominated we're gonna
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make weird cool so they were the ones who said no you can't use weird but then there was all this
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language of ableism that came out and you couldn't say crazy and you couldn't say insane and you couldn't
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and I was looking at all the lists this morning and weird is either it's been retroactively removed
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which I wouldn't be surprised but it might have been the one word that they were like hey what can
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we call him that we're not going to get yelled at for and weird isn't on any of these lists strangely
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and as I was talking to my editor at the spectator about we were texting and he was saying you know
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to win the general you have to seem normal and it's whoever is normal and now they've made weird
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this you know step to creepy like one step away from creepy but I don't know if you should be doing
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that if you have guys like Sam Britton and Rachel Levine on your side I mean this you you can't that
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seems like a bad idea for the left to make weird one step away from creepy because they have way more
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weird people that represent them than I would say the mainstream right wing if I may however um you know
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it's always the happy warrior that American what America wants to be with and so if they are if they
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are seen as almost mocking themselves you know Karen's for for Kamala um and they're not taking
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themselves so seriously even though on the call they took themselves like godlike seriously um and uh
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and they're calling them weird and then you say uh really that's weird how about the dude that's
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stealing women's suitcases that you had watching over our nukes and then they their response is see
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I mean you're just bigoted in hatred full of hatred I mean you're weird um but you're also bigoted and
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we're just having I keep coming back to what she said at the very end of that phone call with uh
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Barack and Michelle or Big Mike uh she said and we're gonna have a lot of fun with this aren't we
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and it was so fake but I think that's what they're going for I think they're just gonna just laugh their
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way through this it's just gonna be fun we're just gonna have fun yeah I think they realized a couple
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of things uh which is it's smart of them to course correct they seem to have leaned back into okay
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America isn't horrible like we've been saying and preaching and academia and we're gonna re-embrace
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the American flag they seem to have been saying like they realized you know the BRNC for whatever
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you know idiocracy it might have seemed like it was fun it was like people having fun and I was
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saying this on Twitter they're like oh look what they're projecting I'm like they're projecting fun
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this thing that Americans like to have and generally have and I think they're realizing they're not
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seen as the fun party they're seen as the the scolds now and the pearl clutchers and and the
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authoritarians who are checking everyone's language and and so I don't know it's they're not going to
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be able that's not you can't be you can't say this is the this is a weird paradox you can't say this is
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the end of democracy and oh look how weird J.D. Vance is that doesn't it doesn't carry this they're
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trying to like walk this tightrope and I don't think they're going to be able to do it you can't
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be calling everybody bigoted and racist and that this is a fascist takeover of America and then be
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like look at how weird he is yucka yucka yucka it's it's not it's like weird it's that's weird
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yes it it is it is awfully strange um however it might work for a limited time uh you know that
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that was the thing that I think the GOP had going for it this year was it was full of joy and it was
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fun and uh you know it was like a respite from the end of the world and it was still serious
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had its serious moments when it needed to be but it was fun and I think that's what gave the wind in
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the sails of uh the Republicans and Donald Trump and I think that's what they're going for I could be
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episode anywhere podcasts are found welcome to the program London Roberts the author of out of the
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shadows a new book uh about her relationship uh with the president's son and uh having the
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granddaughter that the president's family doesn't seem to uh want to recognize I just want to give
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you her bio here because I've never heard anything like this from the media London Roberts is a
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mother an author and a financial officer and a financial officer from Batesville Arkansas her all-star
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basketball career uh culminated at Arkansas State University where she was a McDonald's all-American
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nominee shooting guard she also studied criminal justice and psychology she went on to Washington DC
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for the most prestigious CSI training in the country that's where she met and began a relationship
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with Hunter Biden she served as Biden's executive assistant at Rosemont Seneca and other business
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entities now serves as the financial controller for a family-owned business uh Rob Roberts custom gunworks
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she is the mother of Navy President Biden's seventh grandchild she is in the process of launching a new
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fashion line serves as an advocate for women in unplanned pregnancies welcome London Roberts how are you
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hi I'm good Glenn how are you very good um why is it the press has made you into just a stripper
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you know I'm not I'm not so sure I've sat back and um you know allowed whatever narrative to be thrown my
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way and you know it seemed that you know everyone had um a different narrative than than what the the truth
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was and um so were you ever a stripper well you know in in my book out of this in the book out of the shadows I um I talk
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about living in DC and um I talk about you know uh there's a chapter called on the pole and you know what that
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consists of I would love people to buy it and read that part for themselves um because the media has put so much of a
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narrative around that part and that part plays such a little role in the actual truth and the story of
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everything that actually happened and you know I didn't know how did you
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you did not meet him at the club I did not meet him at a strip club um I met Hunter through a mutual
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friend that had invited me to go to like I say an after party but it really wasn't a party it was just
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um some people hanging out having drinks and and just talking and um it wasn't like your college
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after party but it was actually held at Rosemont Seneca which was Hunter's firm and at the house
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of Sweden and I actually met him that night and got to know him how did you become his executive
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assistant so I got to know him after after that night um I stayed up I talk about you know that
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encounter and finding out who he was and seeing this demon that he was battling and having this
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empathy for him and you know a relationship developed and I began to care for him and I
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began to fall in love with him and you know it developed for over a year there would be times
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where you know I talk about throughout the book even Hallie his his sister-in-law confided in me and
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said you know Hunter trusts you and that's something that you know is is hard to come by like he doesn't
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trust a whole lot of people and you know we we developed this friendship you know and then
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it led on into you know a relationship and and then you know I start working for him and I talk
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about how you know I start doing like little ins and outs like executive assistant type work where
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I'm doing um like running errands for him and things to that nature and then um then I'm like
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meeting Katie Dodge his other assistant at the office to go over and you know help like she's showing
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me how you know to pay the bills to do all this other stuff moving his stuff you know he had he
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had just gone through a divorce moving furniture to storage units into the house and stuff like
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that so you know I was I was it developed over time I didn't immediately become his assistant but you
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know over time when our relationship developed and um this friendship developed and and we begin
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to get closer is what I thought then you know he he wanted me to be his assistant and so I hopped on
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board and thought that was you know such a great idea and I ended up in the situation I'm in today
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so did you know the side of Hunter Biden that we now know because of the laptop
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um I would say yes and no because you know Hunter of course as as he's been candid about and as we see
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from the laptop was in a really dark place and he was battling addiction and I um the first few
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chapters of the book you know I explain meeting him and caring for him and loving him and and you
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know I think anybody that has loved or cared for someone that's suffering from addiction
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can resonate with that with that part of the book because it's hard you feel like you know you're
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enabling and you're not you know doing your part like you should have to you know help him get that
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that that change you know there was even one chapter that you know I talk about I thought Hunter's
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life was going to end that night he had consumed so many drugs and he was a he was at the worst day
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I'd ever seen him and you know he found his way to me because he knew that I'd take care of him
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and I did I sat there with the phone in my hand that entire night wondering you know listening to
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his breathing and crying and praying and wondering you know my should I call 9-1-1 but if I do and I
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call the ambulance and get them here yes I save his life but I knew I knew Hunter well enough to know
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that he hated being the black sheep of his family and that's what he felt like he felt like he was
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constantly a disappointment and his scandal-plagued son you know and so I knew that if I did that then
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he would hate me forever and never speak to me again so I sit there and I monitored his breathing
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the entire night I got him water I tried to you know make him drink it and um you know there there
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are some dark times and there are some dark chapters that that bring out that place that he was in
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during that time but you know there's also some chapters that that show the good that was in him
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too the good that I saw the good that I fell in love with you know I may have been young and dumb
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naive but um there was a good side to him that I seen and that I fell in love with do you still love
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him no I'll always care about Hunter because you know he he blessed me with the greatest blessing I
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could have ever asked for and that was my daughter but you know uh I talk about the last time I I felt
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like I was in love with him is is around pregnancy time you know I was that's when our relationship
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ended and he said that he was going to be there for me and um I scheduled a um a sonogram to hear
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the baby's heartbeat for the first time and I scheduled it in Annapolis because that's where his
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house was at the time that he was staying in so I wanted to make it easier for him and he actually
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didn't show up and I listened to our baby's heartbeat alone and every sonogram after that I went to alone
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and you know that you'll fall out of love when you go through um something like that and you know
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you drove yourself to the hospital to give birth alone an hour and a half if I'm not mistaken
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in labor I drove I drove to the hospital after um the water my water broke um I drove to all my
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appointments I went in to you know I went in the back I did all the sonogram I did the I did the whole
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pregnancy thing alone and um it I blamed him for a long time because I felt like he put me in such
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a dark place where I contemplated taking my own life but you know it I talk about how you know I
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have to be I'm accountable for my own feelings and getting myself in that dark place even though he
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didn't show up and he didn't do his part it's still you know mental health is still on me and that
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was you know a hole that I had to dig myself out of and you know I talk about the faith of a mustard
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seed and the maternal instinct and mother's love that I have for my daughter is what got me out of
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that dark place and you know allowed me to stand here today and and tell my story
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so why won't they recognize Navy you know that's something I just I don't know I've I've never been
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able to answer that question because I can't I can't imagine how embracing a child would
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hurt anyone's image I think it would be a feather in their cap to you know acknowledge a child and
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and and love one I don't understand you you talk in the book about this time when you guys you and
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Navy you're the nail salon and she sees grandpa up on TV and she says that's my grandpa and you say
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keep your voice down but yes it is and you have a conversation with her that he's very busy right
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now but when he's done he's going to come and see her do you believe that um she's actually the one
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that says you know um when I have oh she says that yes when I have the conversation with her you know
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she wants to know she's getting to that age or she had gotten to that age where she's like you know
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so and so has a mom and dad and I only have a mom and so another person has a mom and dad and I only
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have a mom like do I not have a dad and so I tell her you know I I talk about I want her to be
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resilient I want her to be open-minded I want her to have grace I want her to have forgiveness in her
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heart even to people who might not deserve it or ask for it and you know I talk about being open with
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her and just telling her yes you know you you do have a dad and um well what's his name you know
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and she wants to see him and I show her a picture and I talk about how I just tell her I don't know
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what to tell her you know because she's she's too young to comprehend just everything and so I tell
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her you know that her dad's a really busy man he lives far away because she wants to know why doesn't
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my dad come visit me and so I make excuses and I tell her that you know he he's a busy man he lives
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far away and then you know I tell her what her grandfather does and she says oh so that's why
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they don't come to visit me because he's out helping other people because I tell her the role that he
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plays with you know being the leader of the free world yeah and she says oh so that's why he don't
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come to see me because he's out visiting or he's out helping other people but when he's done helping
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them then he'll come see me right and I'm like I can only hope so sis you know I don't have an answer
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for that and and I don't and I've said from the beginning you know I'll be open with maybe as open
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as I possibly can um and someday if if she hates that side of the family it will be because of their
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actions and what they did and didn't do it won't be because of me I won't instill that hatred in her
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heart I don't want her to carry that hatred in her heart but someday she's gonna feel that hatred
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and you know that's that's a burden that I hope that will be her for her to find and discover you're
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doing the right thing I think don't don't ever don't ever do anything but say um the truth and
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the good things that you remember let her find everything else herself she'll find the truth
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eventually it's uh it's it's good to talk to you and uh our our sympathy is is with navy um I think
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most americans democrats and republicans think this is insanity the way this whole thing has been
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handled uh and uh I worry about her future as I think many americans do
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London thank you uh I worry um out of the shadows is the name of the book out of the shadows by
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London Roberts the uh author and the mother of navy the seventh grandchild of the president of the