The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Mark Brnovich & Dr. Robert Malone

00:00:00.000 hey great podcast for today oh uh thursday uh today on the show my gosh we talked about

00:00:09.420 all the important things like ukraine and inflation and of course who could forget

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00:00:47.100 let me go to uh mark bernovich he is the arizona attorney general uh he wrote an op-ed in the

00:00:57.960 wall street journal a couple days ago esg may be an antitrust violation i love this approach

00:01:06.260 welcome to the program mark thank you glenn thanks for having me on thanks for all that you do uh

00:01:11.960 okay so tell me how how you view esg and what it means to the people of arizona and the people of

00:01:19.140 the world the people of the world the people especially in this country esg and i'm sure

00:01:25.040 your listeners know is stands for the environmental social and governance movement and basically

00:01:30.200 these are far left progressive woke liberals that want to control your your life and your

00:01:37.000 livelihood and what they have been doing is they essentially have been organizing or you know the

00:01:42.740 wall street banks and money managers you know people like climate action 100 plus have more than

00:01:48.280 you know 65 million trillion two trillion with a t in assets and what they do is they put pressure

00:01:53.980 on companies uh pressures on banks to be very woke and very progressive and we've seen this manifest

00:01:59.600 itself most recently in the energy sector because they want to be green you know they want to be

00:02:05.460 socialist so banks now and financial institutions are being pressured not to invest or not to provide

00:02:12.020 any sort of funding for oil gas uh things that essentially make us energy independent and i think

00:02:18.960 especially glenn in light of the events that we've seen in the last couple of weeks that even though

00:02:24.880 these climate activists the pointy-headed liberals think they know best literally we see what's going on

00:02:30.040 in the world and it proves more than ever that the united states and our security depends on being

00:02:34.780 energy independent and not woke um and it uh it is would you agree it is going to trickle down to

00:02:43.640 the average individual i mean i won't be able to buy perhaps the car i want because my esg score

00:02:51.620 will be too low i can guarantee it will be yeah and this really this is the the woke neo-marxist um

00:03:00.060 and we see part of this going on in china with the social scores on an individual basis but this

00:03:06.160 impact that it's going to have on every single person listening because what happens with the esg

00:03:11.260 movement it's being pushed it's the far left it's the fossil fuel haters and they're literally using

00:03:17.160 your 401k your investment funds uh you know if you have any sort of retirement plan and they're using

00:03:23.920 that basically to drive their woke agenda and so everything from the price of energy obviously

00:03:29.500 you know when we're we're not drilling in anwar or we're not doing permits uh where the oil companies

00:03:36.180 or gas companies coal companies can't get financing that means higher energy costs and higher energy costs

00:03:41.100 as we all know ends up being that we paid more for our groceries we pay for more more for our milk

00:03:47.720 and we know and i know that this isn't going to stop in the energy industry we're already seeing

00:03:53.080 this with things like the firearms industries you know we're going to see it with religious liberties

00:03:57.040 and so ultimately this is the far left that neo-marxist goal of ironically for the marxists they're going

00:04:03.280 to control the financial institutions and the woke money managers and they're going to use that

00:04:07.800 as lenin said the proverbial using our own rope to hang us with okay so why do you say this is a

00:04:14.460 an antitrust violation well i think you know once again i i've i've uh i've been a tried and true

00:04:22.300 principled conservative my entire life here in arizona and i think that very often the left

00:04:26.580 comes up and is consistent in pushing their agenda and our folks us on the right um need to think

00:04:33.100 sometimes a little outside of the box and so we know this is wrong what they did what they're doing

00:04:37.280 we know that folks have you know identified this problem issue and so now the issue plan is well what

00:04:43.340 do we do about it and so i have certain tools in my toolbox of the attorney general and i said well

00:04:47.460 wait a minute you know antitrust law said that you can have agreements between competitors to

00:04:52.980 artificially restrict competition um are there third party agreements that restrain um that were

00:04:59.080 a result in collusion that harm consumers and so yeah we have begun an investigation i'm not saying

00:05:05.680 i'm for sure where it's going but i do think that if your 401k or your pension plan or your retirement

00:05:11.920 savings are being used to facilitate a political agenda by big banks and big money managers um that

00:05:18.120 very well could be a form of collusion that's harming consumers well i just think this is genius

00:05:24.140 quite honestly and and i can't imagine you can't find it um my book is full of footnotes on all of the

00:05:32.540 things they're doing and you can i mean the the agreements that the banks have signed have said

00:05:39.140 we're getting out of of this kind of business we're no longer going to make uh uh loans to these

00:05:47.020 kinds of businesses um our standards on social justice are this and it is happening i mean they

00:05:55.120 it is it's like the mob just a very buttoned up mob when uh you know they they just they call each

00:06:02.880 other and say boy you're really putting yourself at reputational risk which means you're going to

00:06:09.400 be put out of business if you don't get on this side glenn you hit the nail on the head as always

00:06:17.480 and you're absolutely right and in in the key to this from a legal perspective from my perspective we

00:06:22.240 know that it's out there is that well these are their third party agreements um either formal or

00:06:28.320 informal that are restraining competition and are they essentially inviting each other to collude

00:06:33.680 to advance their far left agenda and you know that incremental wise the left is very organized and

00:06:40.160 there's there's an assault on our our rights and you i know you talk about this with what's going on with

00:06:44.640 critical race theory and the 1619 project and how they're trying to get young kids to hate you know

00:06:49.800 in our country i know i've sued the universities over everything from giving tuition to people that don't

00:06:54.500 have legal status to you know what they're doing with their sweetheart real estate deals and so

00:06:58.540 we we people like you people like me need to help make sure our kids understand that what's going on

00:07:05.500 is crony capitalism and you're getting these neo-marxist socialist you know companies that are

00:07:10.200 feeding the alligator and hoping that they eat them last and we all know you know your listeners know

00:07:15.800 that every revolution will eventually eat itself because the the left these banks these money managers

00:07:21.220 playing footsies with the far left they will never be far left enough for them there's always going

00:07:25.680 to be something else we'll need to do and eventually they'll destroy this country and they're already on

00:07:29.680 that path that's why i'm fighting so when will you when will you have an answer and what does this

00:07:35.780 path if it does come back your research does come back and say yeah i think i can prove this what does

00:07:40.680 that mean well hopefully we we've actually started the process and a lot of it quite frankly is

00:07:47.360 is confidential by by statute and no provider with their salt is ever going to say what they're going

00:07:53.200 to do before they get all the facts but i i assure you that we take this seriously and we've already

00:07:59.420 started to get some materials we're reviewing it and that probably will lead to more subpoenas and

00:08:04.300 more discussions and i'm sure they're going to probably object to some stuff and then we'll probably

00:08:08.280 end up in court somewhere fighting over what we can get or not get and you know we're hoping this

00:08:13.240 is quickly but you know unfortunately the left has a phalanx of lawyers and lobbyists and you know

00:08:19.900 they try to make it uh you know miserable for us and you know they they've got the media on their

00:08:24.560 side everything else and so they kind of play for time sometimes so but we're gonna do everything we

00:08:28.100 can glenn to to move quickly on this and get the other information and you know like i said a lot of

00:08:33.660 it's uh legally and ethically we can't yeah yeah i understand that so mark i appreciate it when i saw

00:08:39.300 your uh your op-ed in the wall street journal i thought this is a great uh a great angle to attack

00:08:46.880 from uh we've got to hit them on on all fronts quite honestly and i i think this one has a really

00:08:53.100 good chance of of uh making a huge difference but i will tell you do not dismiss the pushback from the

00:09:01.840 right there are a lot of these rhino republicans and and honestly a lot of uh uh capitalists who

00:09:11.080 think i can't tell the free market what to do these are companies and they choose to do it this isn't

00:09:16.760 the free market this is not the free market by design this is to usher in a stakeholder from

00:09:24.800 shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism uh so uh be be very wary of the republicans as well

00:09:32.740 they have uh been holding things up in some states as well absolutely i understand that and that's why

00:09:39.340 i made that reference to crony capitalism and and unfortunately i think that a lot of times people

00:09:44.880 see what's going on with the sweetheart real estate insider deals and what's going on public

00:09:49.680 universities and so um what we we don't unfortunately have that free market you do have

00:09:56.760 certain elites and like i said we're seeing this with the money managers and the bankers that

00:10:01.440 uh actually have a lot of influence and kind of pick and choose you know who gets to run for what

00:10:06.440 office and all this other stuff and look i look glenn i i'm a public school kid i'm a first generation

00:10:12.120 american my family fled communism you know i i am playing with house money living in the greatest

00:10:16.800 country in the world so i don't back down from the fight uh and it's slow and steady wins the race

00:10:22.140 and i'm going to keep fighting well thank you very much mark i appreciate it mark bernovich he is uh the

00:10:27.500 attorney general from arizona please keep us uh up to speed we'll follow that story for you by the way

00:10:33.160 one more story kind of on along these lines facebook's parent company meta has announced a new tool

00:10:40.520 that will automatically delete posts containing misinformation before they are published now i'd

00:10:49.360 like to know what that misinformation is is it like a week ago there are no weapons of mass destruction

00:10:59.060 no bio labs etc etc to this week yeah it kind of looks like we are involved is it that kind of

00:11:07.600 misinformation that changes all the time incoming posts according to facebook incoming posts that

00:11:14.480 contain content related uh rated by a third party fact checker uh-huh as false are declined before they

00:11:23.280 are even seen in the group the suspension ability is an upgrade from facebook's mute function which can

00:11:30.520 permanently prevent users from commenting on a page now pages can temporarily suspend users for a set

00:11:37.180 period of time communities can only thrive as places to connect when they are safe these new tools will

00:11:44.500 help administrators uh prevent the spread as myth misinformation and manage interactions in their

00:11:50.880 group the other updates include the ability to suspend page members and automatically decline member

00:11:57.220 requests from users via the admin assist page so they're working for you and i'm sure this is going to work

00:12:06.920 you know for conservatives well they might love us so much they might even work better for us than it does for those who

00:12:16.980 support all the leftist causes that's the way this always works for us anytime uh there's this type of stuff

00:12:25.400 going on it always affects us in such a positive way does i can't think of any reason to stop them

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00:13:34.180 dr robert malone who is my guest on uh the podcast the glenbeck podcast that is available tonight

00:13:41.600 for blaze tv subscribers and will be available on uh saturday uh for uh everybody who listens to the

00:13:49.840 podcast wherever you get your podcast dr robert malone welcome to the program how are you sir

00:13:55.080 hi glenn good to hear hear from you again and to be on the show yeah uh i really enjoyed our

00:14:01.860 conversation the other day and it was really wide ranging we we focused mainly on uh covid and and

00:14:09.640 things like that um but we did get into a little bit of bio weapons that are coming one thing we

00:14:15.980 didn't talk about are the the biological research facilities in ukraine can can can we spend some

00:14:25.720 time on these bio research facilities yeah of course i haven't visited them i don't i don't know exactly

00:14:33.440 what's in there that's largely hidden but now we know that it's not just a conspiracy theory like

00:14:39.360 politifact has promoted that uh q anon as just a bunch of crazies and there's no merit to this

00:14:47.000 uh we now know that in fact these things existed and uh that we were funding them and we have our

00:14:54.300 fingers all over it and they are producing something that's sufficiently threatening that the

00:15:01.180 undersecretary for political affairs victoria newland um is is raising concerns that the russians might

00:15:10.620 release that which were developed there apparently with u.s um involvement in some way okay aren't you

00:15:20.080 involved in some way with the defense department on trying to uh neutralize or and there's something i

00:15:30.240 can't remember from our interview if there was something that you were doing uh with defense

00:15:35.320 department or u.s a i i something i'm still yeah no i've never worked for usa id uh um just to be

00:15:45.120 clear on that okay and of course the reason that you're mentioning usa id is that in the past it's

00:15:51.240 been a front for let's say gently intelligence community activities that's right worldwide that's

00:15:56.380 right that's right um so uh no i i support and have supported in the past and work closely with

00:16:03.860 defense threat reduction agency but always as a subcontractor okay so uh and i continue to do so

00:16:13.320 through one of my through one of my subcontracts but it's for clinical testing of repurposed drugs

00:16:21.080 or treatment of covid19 disease all right let me play a clip of uh senator mark rubio

00:16:28.640 uh and undersecretary of state victoria newland listen to this yeah well um i only have a minute

00:16:35.360 left let me ask you um does ukraine have chemical or biological weapons uh ukraine has uh

00:16:45.500 biological research facilities which in fact we are now quite a second there's a two that's a

00:16:55.800 different question and a different answer do they have bio weapons and the answer very carefully

00:17:03.060 thought out was they have biological research facilities tell me what happens generally speaking

00:17:11.580 in a biological research facility so uh what appears to be going on well it a biological research

00:17:22.380 facility is the generic term that can apply to virtually any high level university at any medical

00:17:28.580 school in the united states it's it's a it's like motherhood and apple pie okay that's a phrase

00:17:34.380 that means nothing okay so we know these are biological weapons uh the uh the third level right level three

00:17:43.200 biological uh uh research facilities yeah biologic safety level three i think that's what you're

00:17:50.240 talking about and what happens in in those i don't i don't know whether there's any bsl3 or bsl4

00:17:57.460 facilities i would assume there's at least bsl3 and i infer it's likely there's bsl4 facilities bsl3

00:18:06.420 is a bsl2 is basically stuff that you can do on your bench in a normal open environment that's

00:18:15.420 you know undergraduates might work there bsl3 uh level containment facilities have typically

00:18:23.860 pass through uh anti-rooms they have reverse pressure so that the uh any nasties that happen to be in

00:18:32.920 there aren't likely to be pushed out into the environment they have high containment um

00:18:38.760 hepa-filtered hoods that you work within and you have trained personnel that uh are

00:18:47.080 sufficiently educated so that they are less likely to cause contamination any material that comes out

00:18:56.700 of there has to be subjected to high heat and um steam which we call autoclaving uh so so it's a

00:19:06.320 series of physical mechanical and process barriers together with education that allow at a bsl3 level

00:19:17.020 procedures to be done that would involve agents and potential risk to the general population you can

00:19:24.980 have bsl3 that's just working in cell culture um it could be uh recombinant molecules and viruses

00:19:32.480 uh and it can you can include in bsl3 containment working with various animal species including

00:19:41.080 non-human primates as well so uh are the nasty is the nasty war stuff kept in one of those in a three

00:19:48.960 level three that three is um generally it would be four for the for the uh nasty agents that are

00:19:59.700 potentially lethal or um being weaponized for some reason would be a bsl4 uh three is high containment

00:20:09.240 research and development but typically at smaller scale and was wuhan that was a level two wasn't it

00:20:15.760 i'm sure they had level two there but it's at least level three for a lot of that any of these

00:20:21.960 laboratory complexes will have a combination of level two level three and in some cases level four

00:20:28.580 okay so can you tell me because i i think some of these scientists i mean look i have no problem

00:20:35.160 with scientists at all science is fantastic it gave us the life that we all live today

00:20:41.720 but sometimes we should just say no and i know we had this discussion on the podcast of

00:20:48.980 you know well yeah but the other guy's gonna do it uh and china is doing these nasty things

00:20:54.380 but i always thought we were on the good side and i have a feeling that we're doing biological stuff

00:21:00.860 and genetic stuff uh that isn't quite so good and it also disturbs me that we seem to be messing

00:21:10.780 around in biological labs all over the world and maybe for the wrong reasons do i have that right

00:21:19.220 so the reason that i'm worried about this and and as you know i sent you a copy we put out a

00:21:25.440 sub stack yesterday about this uh is is that this it appears that we're there's a pattern of outsourcing

00:21:34.180 our higher risk uh research and development to client states or outside facilities we certainly appear to

00:21:43.540 have outsourced the eco health alliance work in my opinion that was involved in engineering the precursor

00:21:52.500 to this virus that we've been dealing with for the last two years SARS-CoV-2 i'm convinced that that's a

00:21:59.180 laboratory research product it's not a natural transfer interspecies transfer from an animal host

00:22:07.540 so now we have i i had no idea apparently it goes back under obama you remember obama said

00:22:15.140 set the policy that we weren't supposed to be doing gain-of-function research

00:22:19.400 but all from what i'm reading in the press i have no direct experience uh or knowledge no first-hand

00:22:26.200 knowledge but it appears that this uh policy of supporting these biologic research laboratories

00:22:35.540 in ukraine was initiated under barack obama the same person that said we're not going to be doing

00:22:41.380 gain-of-function research in the apparently in the united states i mean i think at some point we're

00:22:46.920 going to have to get to the bottom of what the authorization chain has been and it's probably

00:22:52.660 classified fairly highly but uh i i'm increasingly suspecting that that the um public face that we were

00:23:03.660 not going to be performing gain-of-function research was just that and it was a public statement that was

00:23:11.740 inconsistent with uh policies and behaviors i think there's a reasonable chance that dr fauci

00:23:18.280 and the ditcher support for um eco health alliance was not um uh that that that that was not the

00:23:28.200 consequence of uh rogue actors within the government authorizing that but that it probably reflected

00:23:35.080 some policy position um that involved the intelligence community i i have to tell you uh

00:23:41.860 i don't know who to believe and i've always known when it comes to defense and things like that

00:23:47.100 there are things that we do that you know don't have to become public as long as there's oversight i'm

00:23:53.300 not convinced there's a sufficient oversight on any of this stuff i don't think i think our senators

00:23:59.600 and congressmen do that do have oversight i think they're being lied to at times as well um do you

00:24:05.700 have any confidence that we're being told the truth and where do you draw that line in a uh in a in a

00:24:15.660 free culture that has a right to know you know at least the representatives do and and and and what needs

00:24:25.060 to be held in secret i'm not quite sure how to answer that do i have confidence that we're being told

00:24:33.380 um truthful information about uh biologic uh weapon research or let's call it dual function research

00:24:42.660 yeah um because uh that's that's the politically acceptable term for we're doing stuff that could be

00:24:50.180 used for weaponization but offensively we're doing it for uh protection or for the purpose of

00:24:56.920 identifying ways that the bad guys could make bad things and so we're making those bad things uh so

00:25:04.260 that we know how the bad guys could make the bad things it's a very convoluted logic uh for those of

00:25:10.020 you that old enough and you may or may i think you might be glenn and you might remember mad magazine

00:25:15.940 which is why i put that clip in my sub stack of of the series spy versus spy i i do believe that we're

00:25:24.020 in this uh spooky world where um it's hard to discern truth truth is absolutely not provided to the general

00:25:34.920 public and only limited versions of truth are provided to congressional oversight i did find it

00:25:43.840 fascinating though the clip that you were just playing goes on and uh glenn grenwald has done a

00:25:50.340 great job dissecting that and dissecting all of the uh quote fact checker propaganda that was put out

00:25:57.620 around and he makes the point that rubio quickly if you were to play that clip longer um interrupts the

00:26:05.000 undersecretary abruptly and tries to get her to change the topic when as he's beginning to realize that

00:26:11.220 she's spilling the beans so let me so so this this implies that uh mr rubio had uh awareness

00:26:19.020 of of the situation and um and did not anticipate that the undersecretary would be honest in her sworn

00:26:28.560 testimony let's say so when the president says we're we're worried that maybe russia might release some

00:26:36.480 of these biological weapons what what would they release and what would be in these uh labs that

00:26:45.700 would be an effective weapon that wouldn't just wouldn't just destroy russia as well

00:26:53.120 that's a good question so the the statements coming out of uh jen saki um you know by reference to

00:27:04.240 biden um regarding the risk of russia releasing bioweapons produced in ukrainian labs that we have

00:27:14.380 helped uh fund and train that's you know unpacking that that's what that statement reveals is there's

00:27:22.140 an awareness apparently it implies there's an awareness that within these labs that we've been

00:27:28.060 involved with uh enabling in various ways there are pathogenic agents that could be potentially released

00:27:37.820 now that would imply that they're highly infectious there's kind of two core strategies with biologic

00:27:44.540 weapons those that are infectious and can spread readily so you can have a small focus of release

00:27:50.800 and you know if uh sars cov2 was a bioweapon that would be a great example of that and then there's

00:27:57.320 the bioweapons like anthrax spores or ricin toxin or uh the binary weapon that that i think you and i

00:28:05.920 discussed the other day that i haven't disclosed what yeah it's worth um i have something i i have

00:28:13.140 something on that bioweapon that binary bioweapon that that um russia the soviet union was

00:28:19.780 apparently developed working on them too yeah so so those are things that these uh toxin preparations

00:28:29.240 of various types uh those are things that have to be manufactured at scale and then they're deployed

00:28:35.880 and they don't replicate in humans and spread so there's kind of those two categories that's what i

00:28:41.220 wanted to say okay and that the statement applies that there's uh awareness of the infectious type

00:28:49.580 that exists within these laboratories that's how i would pull that apart back with uh dr robert malone

00:28:55.460 he's one of the guys that worked on the ebola vaccine when ebola came here and got that actually

00:29:02.560 approved and on the right track

00:29:04.680 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:29:10.640 the senate intel committee is uh having a hearing right now on capitol hill and

00:29:24.540 and uh senator cotton just said you know what was up with the canceling of those planes

00:29:30.160 uh to poland yeah that seems really weird something happened there i don't know what it is uh but i

00:29:38.040 you know i don't know where to get the truth on any of this i don't believe our government i want to

00:29:46.100 but i don't i don't believe the russians you know this is that this is the time when things when the

00:29:52.840 chips are down you need someone to tell you here we have to the best of our ability looked at all sides

00:30:02.480 and we think this is what's coming on these people say this these people say that you decide but that's

00:30:10.900 journalism and that's long dead um this this thing with the weapons lab well let me go to uh let me go to

00:30:19.840 a guy who actually knows let me give you his resume quickly robert malone uh u.s based physician

00:30:27.140 scientist who operates a consultant practice specializing in advanced development of medical

00:30:31.560 countermeasures for infectious diseases vaccines and drugs he has served as an assistant and associate

00:30:37.180 professor of pathology and surgery uc davis university of maryland and the armed forces

00:30:41.360 university of health sciences core competencies include clinical development regulatory affairs

00:30:47.240 project management management uh contract development his medical degree is from northwestern feinberg

00:30:52.260 school of medicine completed his hms gcsr whatever that is um and scientifically trained at uc davis

00:31:00.900 he then was at the sulk institute of molecular biology and virology in the laboratories he is

00:31:07.320 internationally recognized as uh kind of the guy who uh was behind the mra vaccine he's the original

00:31:15.460 inventor um also the dna vaccination and multiple non-viral dna and rna and mrna delivery technologies

00:31:24.900 yada yada yada yada um 12 000 citation of his peer-reviewed publications and 100 peer-reviewed

00:31:32.800 publications um so i mean the guy is uh the guy's a big player and uh we have a podcast that i did last

00:31:42.700 week with him on covid and it's a fascinating conversation but the one thing we didn't get

00:31:48.780 into because last week it was a q anon conspiracy theory and honestly i never touched it because i thought

00:31:57.560 i don't know and i you know i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with the government on this well now we find

00:32:04.920 out we know about those biological laboratories and most likely we are involved in some way or another

00:32:15.420 um so we just asked dr malone what could be there anthrax ricin and that kind of stuff hasn't been used

00:32:24.340 since world war one um and that doesn't sound like the kind of stuff that you know we would use or they

00:32:31.900 would use what are you afraid of that might be there that is uh more of a um a covid 19 kind of

00:32:40.540 thing except with real teeth so the obviously a lot of us are worried about hemorrhagic fever viruses

00:32:49.760 marburg and ebola are two examples those are so hot they're so lethal that letting those things loose

00:32:57.200 tunnel population is a bit suicidal because you can't you can't know how you're going to control it

00:33:03.980 and there's a you know at this point i think all bets are off about what could be sitting in those

00:33:12.540 environments i know the things that people have been working on and what has been the focus of the

00:33:17.720 us dod many of those relate to what we would call incapacitating agents things that make you so sick

00:33:25.420 that you can't fight but what might be least unleashed on a population the the there's a wealth of

00:33:33.860 potential opportunities and of course now we're in a new era where we have to i can tell you that

00:33:41.820 there's a lot of discussion about weaponizing pathogens so that they're specific for different

00:33:48.240 ethnic groups based on their genetic background and that's being done by china with crispr right

00:33:53.960 with or without crispr that that is uh speculated to be a focus of chinese research but in this

00:34:04.040 environment you know if if the way that this works is if we believe the chinese are doing it then we're

00:34:11.520 going to want to do it to see how viable it is like i said this is spy versus spy i don't think there's

00:34:17.360 any black or white hats here i think there's a whole lot of gray and just because we're saying

00:34:23.480 those bad guys over there are doing it doesn't mean that we're not doing it in many cases it means

00:34:29.660 that we are likely to be uh let's say mitigating our risk by assessing the threat can we can we do a

00:34:38.960 couple of things like stop doing them in unstable countries or bad countries is it possible that we

00:34:45.760 could do that well if you go to a quote good country uh tell me which one that is uh i don't know if

00:34:54.100 you if yeah right i mean but yeah so this or at least how about this at least a country that we know

00:35:00.460 the refrigeration is going to be kept on for a while and probably not have an overthrow of their system

00:35:06.580 um yeah so what what is a country that is stable like that uh well is it the kingdom of saudi arabia

00:35:15.120 where where are we where is there a situation now where we can have complete confidence in political

00:35:22.620 stability and not have to navigate the uh statutory requirements not to do this kind of stuff

00:35:31.140 the treaty requirements so you i think what is often going on with the intelligence community

00:35:37.380 is that they are um moving into these unstable political environments because it offers offers

00:35:46.460 opportunity and that certainly seems to fit the the ukrainian situation so then could we do

00:35:53.400 but could we take this step whoever's there give one of them a phosphorus grenade just as they're

00:36:02.280 getting everyone out the door last one out pull the pin yeah i i the the yeah so this this it does

00:36:11.220 appear to be a clown show to have these facilities in which you know ostensibly nobody's doing bioweapons

00:36:19.780 research but now that they're under russian hands we're afraid that they might have been doing

00:36:24.380 bioweapons research why would we even be saying that we're either saying it for pr reasons for more

00:36:30.220 propaganda along the lines of making putin a boogeyman or we know that there's something there

00:36:36.540 and uh that's something we would know that because we've had our fingers in the pie messing around

00:36:42.020 with it i i i i just don't know what to say uh we're we're in an environment where people feel

00:36:52.540 that it's okay to do high risk um research and development justified on the basis that well the

00:37:01.440 other guy's doing it so we have to do it too this is going to be the death of all of us i mean this is

00:37:06.120 so out of control so sloppy you know every every government every time there is a somebody you know

00:37:14.060 takes over a city or a country they always burn the documents and they burn the top secret stuff

00:37:20.660 we didn't do that in afghanistan and we left them stuff this administration has known for weeks they

00:37:27.980 say they have that putin was going in if we knew about these labs shouldn't we had have some sort of

00:37:35.940 responsibility to go in and destroy those things we we were alerted that there was going to be war

00:37:43.040 in ukraine in the second week in january of this year um i'm talking about me personally

00:37:51.100 do we do we uh i think we got into that a little bit in the uh podcast do we uh do we have a

00:38:00.760 responsibility to go in because i think that's that was the that that's the cover story of why

00:38:06.420 we went in we wanted to make sure everything was safe don't we have a responsibility if we know that

00:38:10.960 and we're there to go in and destroy this stuff uh that term responsibility seems to be um irrelevant

00:38:21.060 here we're an environment in which ethics and norms and what normal people would think is right

00:38:28.400 and wrong are irrelevant they're completely irrelevant it's an environment of if things can be done

00:38:36.640 they will be done because if we do do it the other guy will that seems to be the logic and so the norms

00:38:45.020 that you or i might agree on the norms that are that are embodied in the biowarfare treaty

00:38:51.920 we seem to be in an environment in which both the chinese government and the western governments

00:39:01.160 don't feel constrained by those treaties anymore okay um two last questions i've got about 90 seconds

00:39:09.320 here two last questions uh one are we going to find out that we well that's a double sword there i mean

00:39:17.000 if we we don't have any journalists to to do it are we going to find out what are the odds that we are

00:39:22.560 deeply involved in something in ukraine that the american people you know should know about

00:39:30.860 if you use the metric that they act they try to hide and um uh do this kind of propaganda campaign

00:39:41.480 that we've seen where they're labeling people as extremists or conspiracy theorists as their first

00:39:47.520 limited hangout if that seems to be an indicator of guilt frankly when you see that behavior and so

00:39:56.540 if if you're asking me to look into the crystal ball and speculate i would say the probability is

00:40:02.860 fairly high okay that there has been illicit activity ongoing in ukraine in those weapon labs

00:40:09.480 and the u.s government has in some way been party to it so uh i have uh i've i've thought biological

00:40:17.840 weapons and nuclear weapons i thought the world had learned their lesson that that those were insane you

00:40:23.400 just don't win and biological weapons especially with something very contagious that that's just

00:40:29.140 insane uh but we live in an insane world what do you you if you now have technology where those

00:40:37.020 weapons can be targeted based on genetic uh links which exist in different populations

00:40:44.060 then um that constraint is is removed do you believe we have those

00:40:51.520 all i know all i know is that people that i know that are in this world have been talking about

00:40:59.120 that scenario now for a number of years and in the case of this virus that we're dealing with

00:41:07.040 sars cov2 there's good evidence that um there are certain uh gene clusters that are uh different

00:41:16.680 between say uh western caucasian groups and um uh certain asian asian ethnic groups that are

00:41:26.020 influencing uh the pattern of disease associated with sars cov2 so we whether or not it was intended

00:41:34.000 we have kind of a real world example that seems to make the case that um these differences could

00:41:43.340 be exploited and if they can be exploited they will be exploited let me ask you the impossible

00:41:48.820 twenty thousand dollar question and that is how do you think this ends do we do you see somebody

00:41:55.060 using this any of these i think the uh the truth is the honest truth is the probability is is

00:42:04.860 reasonably high and that's why that's one reason why we are in this box where we have to come up with

00:42:14.960 better technologies to mitigate this threat these types of threats there's no question about it

00:42:20.960 well i honestly mrna is that solutions is uh has taken a setback a lot of a lot of these folks thought

00:42:28.580 that it was that solution uh well i i just i have to tell you um my feeling is it's not the technology

00:42:35.280 that is posing a problem it is the people that are in charge that are posing the problem um thank you

00:42:41.440 so much for uh talking to us dr robert malone uh inventor of the mrna vaccine technology um you can

00:42:49.220 find him at rw malone md.com he's been suspended from uh twitter but you can hear his

00:42:58.100 entire podcast with me uh different than what we just did uh tonight on blaze tv portions of it will

00:43:05.900 be up on youtube but it has been highly edited because of cancellations uh but you can watch all

00:43:12.020 of it on edited on blaze tv and you can get it on your podcast this saturday wherever you get your podcasts

00:43:19.860 you can get it on your podcast you can keep it going in淹

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