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In this episode, my good dear friend Joe Biden joins me to discuss his new book, "American Marxistism" and his views on the current events in America. Joe Biden is a conservative intellectual who has been a long-time friend of William F. Buckley and has been involved in the conservative movement since the early 20th century.
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welcome to the podcast today we have mark levin on the program great great i mean what he has to say
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is uh really akin to um thomas paine and the american crisis which actually got the guys
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to turn around with george washington and go into the boat and cross the delaware
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uh you don't want to miss mark levin uh also we uh we told you a little bit about
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the conspiracy theory that is all very well laid out called the great reset it was called system x
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by the guy who actually coined the phrase the the new deal uh back in the 1940s he laid it out and
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if you look at it it's all being done and it is almost verbatim what joe biden is talking about
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today all this and so much more on today's podcast
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my next guest is a good dear friend an amazing patriot i think he's the closest we have
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in the conservative world to a william f buckley today uh to say he's a talk show host is kind of
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an insult he is a scholar which is also kind of an insult he's the good kind of uh scholar who knows
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the truth uh can see the patterns and can see a path forward and shows us how to fight back uh if he
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were a founding father i think he would be john adams welcome to the program mr mark levin
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wow i should come on more often thank you very very much you're you're welcome so you have a new
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book out called american marxism and i got a lot of questions uh about it it's an excellent excellent
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book um you don't need me praising it to uh to uh sell it but you go into the the revolution that is
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happening right now and you say i mean your first chapter is it's here could you do me a favor
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i want you to talk to somebody who is not engaged in daily politics they're not they're not they don't
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listen to us they're still being led by their feelings they think they're doing good by being
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anti-racist or they think they're being good by standing up for all the things that these marxists
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are standing up for convince them that this is happening it's real and it's going to destroy all
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of us this is a great question and it's really the embodiment of the entire first chapter and the
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title american marxism first of all we who do understand what's taking place have got to stop
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being intimidated this isn't progressivism or social activism or democratic socialism this is
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marxism now it may not be marxism in every particular but it is an americanized form of
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marxism now how do we know that because they tell us that that's what their people write about their
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founders in the 60s and 50s and 40s and even in the 70s so what i would say to the and i do to my
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audience too what i would say to people is first of all you need to pay attention to what's taking
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place secondly you need to turn off cnn and msnbc and stop reading the new york times and the
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washington post thirdly you've seen it with your own two eyes you saw the riots all summer long
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you saw black lives matter which is headed by openly proud marxists you see antifa which is a
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marxist anarchist organization you see the media that you have been watching and reading endorse
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every single one of these movements there's not a distinction of any kind between what happens on
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television and what black lives matter is promoting or even antifa is promoting and they also cover up
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the violence or try to dismiss it same with the democrat party the democrat party talk to them say
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don't you believe in an independent judiciary when you go to court do you want politicians sitting
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on the bench or do you want judges sitting on the bench well the democrats want politicians sitting
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on the bench they want to destroy separation of powers they want to destroy the functioning of the
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senate by packing it with democrats they want to destroy the way the uh the the legislative process
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works so even if it's 50 50 in the senate or a four vote majority in the house they can fundamentally
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alter our constitutional system do you like the money you earn do you like the home you own do you like
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the community you're in well joe biden has signed executive orders to destroy all of it
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uh with his attack on the suburbs and also in the cities do you like your local school system do you
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like where your kids are being educated crime infested kids aren't graduating they're not going on to
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college why do you tolerate that well the democrats are preventing us from having school choice they're
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preventing us from having any form of freedom and competition in the inner cities
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and so i would explain this on a level that apparently the republican leadership cannot explain
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it the book tries to do that look this is a unique book for me it's at three levels one there's heavy
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scholarship but i explain it so i might take a paragraph from one of them and then have a paragraph
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explaining it right you need to i thank you for that because if you read marks it's it's it's i mean
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mind-boggling how ridiculous uh and convoluted i think it is the other thing is he destroys the
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idea of an individual and you're talking to an individual you say you know you lead your own life
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you have your family if you do you have your career that you want there's things you like to do when it
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comes to marks he eliminates all that you have to work for the state it's what the state wants
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he believes that you have to surrender your liberty you have to surrender your property
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to the best interest of the state and what's the state joe biden and nancy pelosi and chuck
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schumer and faceless bureaucrats who don't even know who you are you're going to surrender your life
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and your family it's it's a form of involuntary servitude that's what marxism is so basically we have
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to um people have been brainwashed or as i say in the first chapter people have not been paying
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attention or they view this as a passing fad and i try to make the case in the first chapter no it's
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not and we all need to wake up to this and if we have little differences moderate democrats and
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libertarians and so forth you better put them aside right now because we have a common enemy
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i say enemy not opponent not adversary enemy and we need to be focused on defeating that enemy
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rather than fighting among ourselves you know a footnote on this glenn because you know
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you're a man of faith i'm a man of faith i think of the second temple in israel in jerusalem
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and while the romans for four four and a half years were attacking the temple trying to slaughter
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the jews they were fighting among themselves they were they were fighting among themselves
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as they were being attacked they were attacking each other while the temple fell there's no guarantee
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that this country will survive as a free country we're not looking into the abyss now we're in the
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abyss and we have to figure out how to claw our way out and so not to jump ahead this book is six
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chapters of explanation and one chapter of activism it is it for me it's a very unique book in the way
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that i wrote it i think it's by far my most important book given what's going on today but you look at the
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attack on the cops you look at sorrows with the prosecutors you look at phony bail reform you look
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at the open board all these things are intended to destroy our system destroy our culture destroy
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our tradition destroy our mores now if that's not marxism what the hell is it so let me ask you because
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you go into this in depth and i i can't thank you enough for you know the cloward and piven uh mentions
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in there you really the guy that really let me just give you a little kudos here you're the guy
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that brought them to my attention to most of the countries and um and the husband's dead and she
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hates her guts by the way oh i'm very well aware of that very well aware of that i wear it as a badge
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of honor um but you go into all of this and i think mark that there is there are two things going on
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and uh i think that what's it what is so strange that people can't figure out what they're like what
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is happening um because you have giant corporations involved in this and marxist well those two don't go
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together and i think the the elites the real elites the the very very wealthy corporations uh and uh people like
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um uh klaus schwab i i think that they are using these marxist revolutionaries um as useful idiots
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they're going to destroy it and we'll be there with the answer and it won't be what the marxists want
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i have a little different take on this okay i think and either of us could be right because who knows
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i know i think these corporations have decided that the other side's going to win and these are
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not capitalists they're corporatists yes and you see them they operate in china they operate they
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operate they operated during the third right uh and because china needs them and the third right
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needed them as long as they behave as they demand and i think a lot of these corporatists are no
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difference and that is this they believe the democrat party they believe the culture they
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believe it's all been conquered and uh rather than face the wrath uh they're going to throw in with
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them they'll pay the higher taxes they'll deal with the regulations and they will use them to help crush
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their opponents which is what they're doing which is what the democrat party's trying to do with the
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voting rules with the republicans and they'll use them to crush their opponents and uh because for
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the democrat party glenn it's about the democrat party like a marxist party what what is what what is
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china it's the communist party what is cuba it's the communist party what is north korea it's the
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communist part the country's irrelevant the people don't matter right the powers in the party well
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what is the democrat party trying to do you're going to have uh joe biden who's going to go on
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about jim crow and attack these republican legislatures because that's all that stands
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between them and absolute control of this country they did it in california they've done their
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experiments in different states now they want to nationalize the process so it doesn't matter if you
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vote it doesn't matter well if the state legislature is a republican they are going to nationalize it
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they're going to have one party rule because the power the authority the allegiances to the party
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let me ask you corporations i think see this let me ask you about crt you've got a whole chapter
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on crt but you go into um uh lat crit which most people don't even know about um and it is this it's
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it's going to be the same argument that they're using now on um on crt which is oh that's just an
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obscure legal thing it's not really even anything can you talk about lat crit and also crt and because
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you you call it out as evil it's so obscure they're obsessed with it and they're teaching it everywhere
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yeah um lat crit look they talk about intersectionality and this is the way they pull in all these these
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marxist movements that have been spawned from marxism they're american marxist movements americanized
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movements and i explain in the book a guy by the name of herbert marcus who was a marxist in berlin
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uh after world war one the communists and the fascists were fighting hitler took over he couldn't
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understand why the proletariat didn't rise up and you'll notice something the proletariat never rises up
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it's always a cabal or a third or whatever it is in the population taking charge there is no rising
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up of any proletariat bottom there's no proletariat in this country rising up it's the middle class do
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you think the middle class wants to overthrow the government no so anyway this guy was trying to
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he comes he escapes germany comes to the united states he winds up working for three different
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ivy league colleges where he's tenured and he's spreading this marxism crap and he can't he can't figure out
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and so he comes up with critical theory the franklin school all these marxists and he's the lead
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critical theory which is which is spawned in our law schools harvard stanford and so forth which is
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all law is corrupt now why is it corrupt because it needs to be viewed through the eyes of those who've
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made it and not the victims of it and so there's another professor by the name of derrick bell said this
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is a great idea i'm going to apply that to race that is you have to view everything through race
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and because we have this white dominant society everything wrong in this society everything right
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of course is as a result of the minorities but everything wrong as a result of the majority
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and so it's this white dominant culture if we don't destroy this then there'll never be equity
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and they reject a colorblind society they reject martin luther king they despise the whole civil
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rights movement that's crazy as marx despised socialism because he said these halfway measures
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are stopping the revolution so it comes from him it comes from this guy derrick bell and what it is
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what does marx say destroy history don't the world begins today destroy history the monuments come down
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the books are burning we're going to brainwash our kids in school on race it's really being
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they're really being brainwashed on marxism and you have some very smart people showing up at these
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school board meetings and they're pointing it out and we need to have the guts not to be intimidated
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to call what it is we're with mark levin he is uh our partner here at blaze tv uh he's the host of
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levin tv author of i think this is this will be your seventh consecutive number one book i believe
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it's uh called american marxism he believes and i believe that's a hard one to choose uh i believe
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at least one of his most important books if not the most important book that he has written
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it comes out today so let's let's go to lat crit quickly and then i want to talk about chapter seven
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sorry i've got the worst cell phone in america i'm sure it was made in china anyway so um guarantee
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it that grid very quickly is the is an ideology that that takes from critical race theories as
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you surmised and it's being pushed in our colleges now it's called the chicano movement and basically
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what it says is bottom line the illegal aliens are the white people in america because you see
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the white protestant europeans conquered this territory and so we are the illegal aliens and i'm
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not protestant but that's beside the point the majority are the illegal aliens the indigenous peoples
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are the people of the two americas north and south america so if they're pouring across the border
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they're doing nothing more than taking back what belongs to them now by the way most of these marxists
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don't look at the middle east that way they don't say hey you know what the jews were there 4 000 years
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ago no no no they don't view it that way so and and if you're speaking spanish uh that that is most
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likely but because you're not indigenous you you have relatives and uh and genealogy that will go
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back to spain spain conquered you know mexico what are you talking about it's all so uh result
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oriented it's also so preposterous but this is why the borders open because biden is a foil he's an
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empty suit and these radical agendas you go down each one that's why they're being pushed now you
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wanted to get to the last chapter i don't want to step on your toes so let's go to the last chapter
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you're proposing a way forward and it includes um boycotts and i have we have two minutes i happen to
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agree with martin luther king he said if it wasn't for the boycotts we wouldn't have had any teeth and
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it wouldn't wouldn't have worked but that goes against so many people uh you know conservatives
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generally are like hey listen they have a right to say that i'm not going to boycott give me your plan
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your way forward here in a two minute period gee i seem to remember we had a revolution where they
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boycotted a lot british goods and so forth and so on my attitude is this the bds movement and i
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explain it in detail 10 000 words in that chapter we would apply the bds movement an anti-semitic
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movement aimed to destroy israel boycott divest and so forth and sanction against our enemies not
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because we're anti-semitic but these are pretty good tactics um same with alinsky we should target
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groups and expose them same with cloward and piven we should overwhelm a perfect example shareholder
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meetings the conservatives even go to shareholder meetings leftists do and they raise their voices
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about so-called climate change well you know what we ought to start showing up in moss we ought to be
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going to board meetings and there are organizations out there and i provide links and contacts throughout
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the last chapter this is what they do we need to join them we need to create a network of what i call
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community committees and county after county where we share information and so forth there's a lot of
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that in the last chapter if people want to check it out mark levin uh this isn't uh thomas paine's
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common sense this is the american crisis uh which got the guys back into the boats and had them
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go back north and cross the delaware uh mark thank you so much it is available everywhere you get books
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it is out today it is called american marxism by mark levin
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so we have to be eternally vigilant and new technologies that can change the world and uh
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overthrow our freedoms let me give you a story from yesterday the biden administration casting
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conservative opponents of the covid 19 vaccine campaign as dangerous and extreme this is new
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terminology from them if you don't believe in the vaccine which i do i just choose not to get it
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because i've already had covid i still have the antibodies i'm gonna let my body do the work but
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i have no problem if somebody wants to take the vaccine i would not give it to my kids
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but i certainly would recommend it for for my parents or anybody else in fact we've urged our
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parents to get it and they have but if you don't take it you are dangerous and extreme
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now this is a political posture and the reason why they're doing it is to convince people that
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we should take it you hey you dangerous extremist you should get the vaccine uh i don't think no i don't
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think you're calling me a dangerous extremist and you're going door to door now fauci said yesterday
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that you know there's this this misunderstanding a bunch of federal workers knocking on your door
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telling you got to do something you don't want to do he said that's not what it is it's not the case
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it's trusted messengers who are part of the community doing that not government officials
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i don't care who it is i don't care who it is why not just give the vaccine to my doctor
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and my doctor can help me make the decision and my doctor can give me the vaccine when i'm in the office
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i get my flu shot that way why can't why can't i do that wouldn't make sense now there's something
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buried in this story and here's what it is biden allied groups including the democratic
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national committee are also planning to engage fact checkers more aggressively and work with sms
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carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that are sent over social media and text messages
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huh now the story goes back into how the biden administration want to take politics completely
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out of this but wait hold it just a second wait the democratic national committee and biden allied
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groups are planning to engage fact checkers more aggressively and work with sms carriers to dispel
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misinformation about vaccines that are sent over social media and text messages now i've got a few
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questions that apparently the politico doesn't want to answer uh or don't don't even think that they're
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they're important in responding to the political story leslie palma she just a average american just said i
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think you buried the lead in your story dnc reading text messages is pretty damn scary well the author at
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politico said as the story points out it's allied private groups that are working with sms carriers
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not the white house right right right she didn't say that she said it's the dnc reading text messages
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which is what you wrote in your story even then there's no ability for groups to read individual
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texts aside from the ones they received themselves uh-huh could you clarify a couple of uh things for me
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how does the dnc define misinformation i'd like to know what misinformation is i'd like a clear
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definition so i can avoid those things um and and how would the sms carriers know when so-called
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misinformation is being spread over text are they now reading all of our texts they have an algorithm
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that is doing that so what are you telling the algorithm to look for and how do you dispel that
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misinformation i'd like answers politico uh natasha karecki could you could you could you fill us in on
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that maybe a update on your story and just help us out because things are starting to seem a little 1984
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klaus schwab has called now he's the from the world economic forum he's the guy the leader of the great
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reset he says it is time to immunize the internet because there are viruses being spread on the internet
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and we have to know who's spreading these viruses uh-huh i think we might have a different definition
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of virus klaus now what they're saying is they want everyone to have to have biometric data
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whenever they get online so there's a fingerprint on who it is uh-huh and it's going to be um you know
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it's going to be for your safety really that's what it is we'll be able to know exactly who everybody
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is exactly what they tweet what they read what they do it'll be fantastic and it will never be abused
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by the way in a completely unrelated story i told you yesterday about the new bill that came out last
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week to put the government in charge of your credit score the idea is to dramatically overhaul the u.s
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credit reporting industry oh my gosh the comprehensive credit act and the protecting your credit score
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act of 2021 is a bill now under consideration it's coming from the consumer financial protection bureau
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that is the elizabeth warren group that she set up under barack obama and they're going to take
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the the uh responsibility away from these quote profit-seeking companies it's why these profit-seeking
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credit bureaus are constantly expanding their products into uses such as employment insurance
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tenant screening that ultimately harms americans and contributes to the massive inequality in our nation
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so what they're saying is they need to take it over because there's no fairness built into these
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profit-seeking companies do you realize what control the united states government will have
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over your life if they are the one issuing your social credit and believe me it will become
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social credit it's it's not based on your financial ability it's not based on merit it's not based on what
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you make how you spend it it's not based on really anything traditional it's a dramatic overhaul
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by the way the banks are are deep deeply in bed now with uh with esg
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that is a new credit score that all of us will have when i say that it's going to get harder and harder
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for you to get alone it is going to be harder and harder for you to get alone you remember this is
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nothing new if you are found to be a dangerous extremist in any socialist nation by the way you notice
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that the the democratic socialist party um they're not over in sweden right now saying hey can you give
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us some of your good ideas they're in venezuela right now talking to madura can you give us some of
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your ideas i thought this is all about sweden not about that kind of socialism
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i guess you were lying to us what a surprise what's happening right now is the great reset
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but it is not a conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy fact it is my contention that the marxist movement
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they are being these are useful idiots they are being used by very powerful corporations and our
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government and they believe that the only way that we're going to be able to survive as a nation
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is to get the government and big business in together so they can make the decisions on what we should
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consume what we should build how we should move what we should wear what our co2 footprint is right
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now if i were a tree i'd be like these people are so stupid is what i breathe in as a tree i just want
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you to know i want to show you that it is a long standing goal of the left a long standing goal
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of the left to do this i want you to listen to the goals of 1941 uh something that was written by
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stewart chase uh and the obama administration used a lot of the words of stewart chase remember
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his uh second campaign was the road we are traveling do you remember that his second campaign used that
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slogan a lot the road we are traveling and what did biden use biden used built back better well that's the
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world economic forum but if you look at the goals of the world economic forum and then you look at the
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goals of stewart chase on in a book called the road we are traveling they sound familiar now in this book
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um they talk about um a managerial revolution that things just need to be managed we don't need all
00:30:05.020
these messy elections and everything else we just need a managerial uh revolution and they thought
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originally that that was going to be fascism or communism but then fascism and communism got a bad
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name in the 1930s so they had to change it and they didn't know what to call it and so they called it
00:30:26.000
free enterprise into x now what is the goal of the great reset the goal of the great reset is to change
00:30:36.960
capitalism to change the free enterprise into something called stakeholder uh capitalism it don't don't make no
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mistake it's not capitalism it's statism and the state doesn't own the companies but the state takes
00:30:55.220
over the role of managing a lot of companies i want to go through and tell me if this isn't been done
00:31:04.980
verbatim and this does not read like it did five years ago free enterprise into system x a strong
00:31:14.720
centralized government look at what they're doing right now with the voting rights look what they're
00:31:21.460
doing what are they doing they are going against the constitution and trying to federalize all of the
00:31:29.300
elections there's no better example today of a strong centralized government than what's going on
00:31:36.220
today every single day and they're trying to use this texas democratic walkout today with
00:31:43.140
in combination with a biden speech to try to bring that issue home yeah and they're they're going to do
00:31:49.140
their their best uh by the way you want to talk about a strong centralized uh government on page nine
00:31:58.580
of biden's conservation plan uh there are 15 governors now who are standing up and saying wait a minute this is
00:32:06.080
a land grab it's the 30 by 30 plan and the 50 by 50 the federal government wants to own
00:32:15.440
30 percent of all land in america by 2030 what are they at now do we know no i don't it's because
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they own a lot of the west they own a lot of the west yeah but but that's mostly it the west um
00:32:33.380
or they want 30 percent of all of the uh land and then 50 percent of all the land why well listen to
00:32:41.820
this they also want control of banking credit and security exchanges by the government you effectively
00:32:50.280
have that through the fed it's a public private partnership credit they are now taking over
00:32:57.620
this is 1941 stewart chase the guy who who coined the term the new deal
00:33:05.380
the underwriting of employment by the government aren't we seeing that right now kind of it's
00:33:12.220
you're not working oh totally i mean they've now released this program where they're sending you
00:33:17.800
monthly checks for your child credit the underwriting of social security by the government
00:33:22.480
old age pensions unemployment insurance and the like listen to this one the underwriting of food
00:33:29.100
housing and medical care by the government the united states is already expend experimenting with
00:33:35.180
providing these essentials other nations are far along the road food housing medical care all in part
00:33:42.720
yeah you know not a hundred percent but partially already done you're hearing people talk about
00:33:47.980
expanding all the yes all the time to food and and housing you can't have a basic living wage without a
00:33:55.420
house that goes with it look at what's happening in oakland where they're saying no more single housing
00:34:01.320
units um this is moving quickly uh and i want to continue down this because it is astounding
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how far the left has come in about 173 days they are closing this deal on us and americans need to stand up
00:34:23.400
this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for listening
00:34:30.660
we are uh thrilled to have sean larkin in uh he is the former host of live pd which was canceled
00:34:47.520
immediately uh for i think you'd be better to tell us sean but i think because you were making cops look
00:34:54.300
good crazy concept yeah you know uh people want transparency if it involves seeing the police
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doing something wrong but they don't want that transparency when it shows what society is doing
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wrong and what police have to do day to day to deal with it i mean i remember when cops first came out
00:35:10.800
and i was watching cops it was not about the cops it was about how stupid and fat americans are
00:35:16.800
you know what i mean it was just like what i don't i just remember thinking that what an imbecile this
00:35:23.800
person is right right well you know that's a day in the life of a police officer unfortunately you do
00:35:28.080
cross a lot of those type of those type of people on a daily on a daily basis but you know the difference
00:35:33.940
between cops and live pd was cops kind of showed like a 30 minute segment that was edited down for three
00:35:40.900
pieces basically and live pd showed america hey this is the job of law enforcement in the country
00:35:47.300
and you know that's why it showed some of the rural areas um it showed the urban areas so you in one
00:35:53.440
episode you would see what cops were dealing with in in montana well literally on one episode we had
00:35:58.360
a bear up in a tree at a hospital there but then we were bouncing to somewhere else in the country where
00:36:03.140
guys are in a pursuit with some gang members um and so it just got to show the public hey this is what
00:36:08.160
this job really is it's not the little cut down pieces that's you know clickbait on social media
00:36:13.880
or the big things that lead off the news i have so many questions um mainly regarding how frightening
00:36:20.000
was that to do to do a live television show where it could be horrible and nothing happens uh or
00:36:30.600
something really bad could happen and you're there you're live you had a basic delay but that's it
00:36:37.180
yeah it had a small delay you know similar to like uh you know live sports does in case some guy
00:36:41.340
streaks across the field or something like that you know so it did have that built in um and that's
00:36:46.140
exactly it though you would have a friday night where we thought man it's going to be off the
00:36:50.300
chain tonight it's going to be crazy and it was three hours of just nothing going on um you know we
00:36:54.560
had eight different departments and so you got to bounce around of nothing going on in eight
00:36:58.080
different cities and then you'd have a saturday night where it's raining in half the country and it
00:37:02.220
was crazy um but again that's what law enforcement is you you don't know it uh you don't know what's
00:37:07.500
going to happen and i i think this is one of the things i grew up in the pacific northwest and
00:37:12.400
you know in a little teeny town of about 30 000 i think maybe less than that when i was there and so
00:37:19.040
you knew the cops and everything else and you got out of the car you were stopped you got out of the
00:37:22.760
car you kind of met him halfway you're like officer what am i doing well i did that i'm 18 years old and
00:37:28.660
i did that when i moved to baltimore maryland oh my little different little different a little
00:37:35.360
different i got out of my car and they drew guns on me and said what get into your car and i'm like
00:37:42.280
oh okay okay uh and the the cop said to me what are you doing and what i didn't realize is how many
00:37:49.100
cops had been shot right around that time two officers were just shot in baltimore this morning
00:37:55.380
correct yeah you have no idea what you're walking into none um you know i was a cop in tulsa for
00:38:02.380
24 and a half years and i just retired about seven or eight weeks ago um you know and i supervised the
00:38:08.920
gang unit there since 2008 and during that time and we took literally thousands of guns uh you know
00:38:14.620
off the streets from guys that shouldn't have them and we were very very fortunate um you know
00:38:19.080
throughout my career i've been in two police shootings a couple other guys in my squad have been
00:38:22.560
shootings as well but you don't know you don't know if that car stopped that door you're going
00:38:27.040
through uh you know you know that domestic call you're going through you don't know what's going
00:38:31.420
to happen there are some cops that believe that uh guns in the hands of average people are is not a
00:38:38.160
good you're not a help if you are carrying a weapon uh i don't happen to agree with that but i'm not a
00:38:44.100
cop uh cops generally look at law-abiding citizens with with guns as a help you know i don't know if i'd use the
00:38:51.520
word quote-unquote a help um i think there's just there's speaking from my own experience in tulsa
00:38:55.860
there's very few isolated incidents where a citizen who was armed has had to intervene or do something
00:39:01.560
um but you know the the stories we see across the country where somebody whether they're in a business
00:39:06.640
where a rush a robbery's happened or some guy's out with his family and you know somebody tries to
00:39:11.520
rob them defending themselves i'm all for it you know um i i am all for it i wish at times citizens
00:39:17.340
definitely did get more involved you know now what you see and just speaking from a law enforcement
00:39:22.020
perspective you know everybody just wants to record everything on their cell phone rather than
00:39:25.440
taking action or help that's it or help real quick because i want to get to the book um you uh in
00:39:31.680
chicago they're now going to send in federal uh officers and they're going to clean it up they're
00:39:36.960
saying what the problem is is that those suburbs are just you know those gun stores are the suburbs
00:39:40.980
they're just selling guns they don't care who who has them is that is that is that is that the
00:39:46.680
problem up in chicago listen i can speak for for myself um we i i later supervised what's called
00:39:53.700
the crime gun unit and there are various units like this across the country right now where you are
00:39:57.780
focused strictly on firearms that are used in violent crimes um it's my personal opinion again it's not
00:40:05.720
the ghost guns that are doing it that there's conversations about going after guys making ghost
00:40:09.420
guns those just happen to be law-abiding citizens that love guns and they make their own you know
00:40:14.200
they manufacture their own firearms regardless of what federal government politicians uh administration
00:40:21.400
and some police departments think bad guys are going to get guns period you know it's crazy concept
00:40:27.420
really crazy concept just like drugs you know i mean they want it they're gonna get it so uh you know
00:40:32.780
bringing in i mean listen the help will be great uh you know we worked with our federal partners in
00:40:37.280
the tulsa area at times when it was needed um but you know you got to have proactive policing i don't
00:40:42.760
like the idea that uh federal government gets involved in local policing i mean when they're needed
00:40:48.340
they're needed um but uh i don't like that i don't like the idea of federalizing our police forces i think
00:40:54.120
that's an extraordinarily bad idea what i really um what really bothers me is how cops are viewed now as
00:41:03.040
bad and uh and not good the the the i think majority of people think that most cops are bad uh when it's
00:41:12.360
exactly the the opposite 100 and you can't get i mean the um you uh you can't get a fair hearing
00:41:23.240
even if you go to court that's fine but you are deemed bad wrong racist whatever a killer if you even do
00:41:32.800
your job and you did nothing wrong yeah i mean we they're they're story after story and one of the
00:41:37.800
biggest ones was you know we saw up there uh just outside of minneapolis a few months ago um you know
00:41:43.040
the black female that went to stab another black female yeah and the officer did i don't know if i
00:41:48.520
used the word heroic but he did what he was supposed to do to save somebody from getting injured yeah
00:41:52.760
and you know we had protests we had you know pro athletes you're next putting that person's picture
00:41:57.380
out there and it's like man this guy did his job what he was supposed to do to save somebody else
00:42:01.960
from being possibly killed if not injured and yet still coming after the cops and and that's why
00:42:06.920
glenn you know it's spoken about quite a bit that's why a lot of people are leaving this profession right
00:42:11.400
now you know it's like man i don't want to be this guy that gets my name drug through the media i don't
00:42:15.860
want to get sued for doing my job uh you know the right way but people are still coming after me
00:42:21.300
you in in your book breaking uh breaking blue real life stories of cops falsely accused you were one of
00:42:27.120
them i was yeah um back in 2010 uh there was a federal investigation of police corruption within
00:42:34.460
tulsa police department and there were actually a handful of these going on across the country at
00:42:38.540
the time with eric holder in office and uh bad guys felons people that were facing charges people
00:42:46.580
that were already in prison were being told by federal agents uh u.s attorney's office that was in
00:42:52.280
uh arkansas the times who worked the case that hey if you've got information on cops um we can get
00:42:58.360
your case dismissed or you can get out of prison and we had guys that literally were in prison on life
00:43:02.840
without parole um convictions in jury trials that made allegations against cops that were released
00:43:09.960
just by making an allegation that that was unproven and my name got drug through the mud during that
00:43:15.420
thing um it was put out in the media i was labeled as an unindicted co-conspirator
00:43:19.100
um i was never charged but another officer was charged for some of the things i was of alleged
00:43:24.840
to have been involved with or witnessed and it was blown out of the water when it came time for
00:43:30.200
trial for this officer he was acquitted not only acquitted of those charges but it was literally like
00:43:36.040
these are flat out lies i mean it was shown to be these are lies and nobody was ever held accountable
00:43:40.480
for it you know these bad guys got out of trouble and got to walk the streets and commit more crimes
00:43:45.440
in tulsa and did that officer i mean how has that affected you and that officer to have your name
00:43:50.400
you know like unfortunately the officer he actually he he faced 62 federal counts um went to trial on 58
00:43:58.500
fought every single one of them ultimately was convicted on perjury from a uh a trial he did
00:44:03.880
earlier in his career and a civil rights violation from that same thing um he actually ended up going to
00:44:09.440
federal prison uh up in south dakota he has since out outside of law enforcement now so wait wait wait
00:44:15.740
so he was innocent of what he was what they they charged at the beginning they got him on on something
00:44:23.240
that happened earlier in his career so there was a case that he had testified earlier in his career
00:44:29.220
about a uh he had seen a suspect on the front porch of a house while he was doing surveillance to get a
00:44:34.760
search warrant for the house and during the trial uh of that individual the defense showed that this
00:44:42.060
guy was actually down in actually here in dallas he was actually here down in dallas and not up in
00:44:46.620
tulsa and the officer was adamant the guy that i saw on the porch was you know john doe whatever the
00:44:53.640
name was and he was asked like four or five times are you sure it was john doe you sure it couldn't have
00:44:58.360
been somebody else and you know i don't want to say shame on him he instead of just stating
00:45:03.560
i saw who i believed to be john doe on the front porch would have made things different uh but he
00:45:09.220
stated he you know who i saw was john doe and so the each one of those times that he said that the
00:45:15.280
federal government charged him for account of oh my gosh uh no joke he wasn't out of town he just
00:45:20.180
mistaken identity well the the no yeah exactly yeah exactly the bad guy now the bad guy was out of
00:45:27.100
town was out of town and whoever he saw he believed to be the bad guy and here's what's
00:45:30.580
he actually ran the search warrant on the house the target the bad guy was there when he ran it and
00:45:35.760
they did find drugs and everything it's just that in his affidavit for the search warrant he mistook
00:45:41.040
somebody else as the suspect so he went to federal prison over unbelievable unbelievable yeah um what can
00:45:48.620
the average person do to support the police you know right now i'll be honest just a simple hey we
00:45:55.620
appreciate you you know if you see a cop out i don't care if they're grabbing a coffee they're sitting
00:45:59.460
down somewhere grabbing a bite to eat um the cop might you know be his tough guy persona right there
00:46:04.820
and kind of just you know act like it's not a big deal but it is i will tell you that it it strikes me
00:46:12.840
as fascinating and there's something beyond that um the fact that in 2001 every cop every cop
00:46:23.240
was a hero a hero and 20 years later every cop is a villain yeah and that's something that i saw the
00:46:31.920
difference in my time just testifying in court you know i came on the police department 1997 and
00:46:37.020
at least the first half of my career you testified in court the defense attorney was doing his job and
00:46:43.120
he was going after you know potential procedural violations and things like that the latter half of
00:46:47.860
my career you take the stand they just accuse you of being a dirty cop or you're racist and things
00:46:52.460
like that that's that's you know it's just has totally changed the whole view of police
00:46:57.140
uh the name of the book is breaking blue real life stories of cops falsely accused it is a
00:47:05.440
fascinating read and uh thank you for everything you've done and uh any of the cops that are still
00:47:12.940
doing it even retired thank them for us there's millions of americans that are behind them and i know
00:47:17.900
that thank you very much glenn i appreciate it breaking blue real life stories of cops falsely
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accused available everywhere now by sean larkin