Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Mark Meadows & Bill O'Reilly ｜ 12⧸9⧸21
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On today's show, Mark Meadows is joining us to talk about why he is suing Nancy Pelosi. We ll tell you why. Also, Bill O'Reilly stops by to talk a little bit about Putin and Biden. And we have evidence that no one can explain.
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On today's program, Mark Meadows is joining us.
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Also, Bill O'Reilly stops by to talk a little bit about Putin and Biden.
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Something is going on in a kind of a dark section of our Mercury Museum,
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where there's an electric chair, I mean, an actual New York's old Sparky
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and a guillotine from France and some really dark stuff.
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Something was moving in there and was caught on our cameras, our security cameras.
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I try to do that occasionally, but, you know, it doesn't always work out.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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former White House chief of staff, senior partner now at Conservative Partner Institute,
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and a guy who's filing a lawsuit against Nancy Pelosi, which let's just pause for a second
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Thanks so much, and thanks for always bringing the truth to the American people.
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And I know that you served Donald Trump very, very well.
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He used to always say, this guy never stops working, and I know that to be true.
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Tell me what's going on, because first you said you weren't going to testify January 6th, right?
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Well, yeah, there was a whole lot that was actually written about what was happening
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And I can tell you that from day one, what we said was we were always going to honor
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I'm not going to be the first chief of staff to waive it.
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I don't think that compelling his chief of staff to come to Congress to testify is something
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that historically has ever been done and certainly is not a good precedent to start.
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That being said, we've been in negotiations for several weeks and months, being very clear
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that the president's executive privilege would always be protected.
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We were working on that accommodation, providing some of the documents.
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Then it became very apparent that they were going to continue to ask about conversations
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that I had with either the president or other senior staff as it related to some of those
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And then over the last 72 hours or so prior to filing the lawsuit, a subpoena arrived where
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they were actually looking for all of the communication from my personal cell phone device, subpoenaing,
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And when that happened, it became very obvious that they were not going to put any limits on
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And the overreach, the constitutional overreach, in my opinion, was just not where I could voluntarily
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And we also know, I mean, we know they've already made up their minds on what happened.
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They did this with Donald Trump in the impeachment, and it was grotesque what they did.
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But the critics, no, CNN would say that, well, what do you have to hide, Mark?
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Can you explain why presidential privilege is so important, not just for this president,
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Well, for every president, and certainly for every chief of staff, it's not only that.
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You know, I've publicly have stated that, to my knowledge, no one in the West Wing had
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any advanced knowledge that there would be a breach of security at the Capitol on January
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But at the same time, what, you know, to have them have me come in and say, well, what
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You know, at this point, what it does is just empowers them.
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All the people on the January 6th commission have all voted for impeachment.
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You know, so I don't know that they're, you know, neutral arbiters of the truth.
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As you know, I've got a new book out, The Chief's Chief.
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And they said, well, you know, you talk about things in The Chief's Chiefs.
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And the, you know, the subject matters in there are not the intimate conversations that
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a chief of staff would have with the president of the United States.
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And I'm caught between a rock and a hard place, truthfully, Glenn.
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I mean, when you really look at it, this is what courts are for.
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If this is something that the courts would, you know, believe is constitutional and should
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weigh in, should a president, a current president, be able to waive the executive privilege of
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a previous president, it would set, in my mind, a very dangerous precedent where just different
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parties would then essentially use both Congress and this waiver to actually just look at political
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And it's just not where, what our founding fathers, I think, envisioned.
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You know, Mark, I've talked to Mark, to Mike Lee about this.
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And I and I've always disagreed with this until I talked to Mike.
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I said, why didn't we go after, you know, Nixon?
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He said, once you open that can of worms on your opponent after they left office, he said,
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He said, because then it will be used for sheer political purposes to destroy the other party
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And he said, you just he said, I think it's just way too dangerous to do that.
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And, you know, there's sometimes when, you know, when you're in power that you would love to have
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the ability to use the, you know, the law and the rules to your point.
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I mean, you know, I'm not one to basically put a motive behind a particular individual.
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But I am here to say that I do know, and, you know, obviously for filing the lawsuit
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against Speaker Pelosi in the January 6th committee is, you know, it needs to have legitimate
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And the broad scope of everything that appears that they're looking at, you know, it's troubling.
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Now, some of those questions are not going to get answered in this lawsuit.
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You know, should Congress have the ability to subpoena just about everybody's record?
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Well, that becomes a dangerous path to go down as well.
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But certainly this question of executive privilege and the broad scope of what they're doing would
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have a chilling effect on future chiefs of staff and senior advisors to the President of
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the United States in any future administration.
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Can you imagine, you know, all of a sudden a Republican president in 2024, and then there's
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a subpoena for Joe Biden's chief of staff and, you know, all his personal records and official
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We felt like that this particular lawsuit was necessary to at least bring the question and
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Yeah, whether whether it changes my outcome or not, I don't know.
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I mean, I think this is perfectly reasonable for people to to understand that, because when
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you say that about Joe Biden, yeah, you know, if there's something criminal that was going
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on, I would want to talk to the chief of staff.
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But I would also want it to be very, very narrow.
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You can't just kick my house, my door down and say, yeah, we're looking for stuff.
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You have to say, I know that we believe this is here.
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And this specifically is what we're looking for.
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And if the courts decided that I, you know, yeah, well, and they should.
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And it's it's it's important that you you put that that criminal component there.
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That would be an issue for the FBI or other law enforcement entities.
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That's not under the purview of Congress to do law enforcement.
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And so when you look at that, there are already provisions for sharing of information if, you
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know, if fraud or criminal activity took place.
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And so I appreciate you making the distinction, because that's that that is a significant one.
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I can tell you this, that hopefully the courts will weigh in and that they will look at this.
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You know, when there's a dispute between the executive and legislative branch, hopefully they will weigh in in a real way.
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Do you I'm just I was trying to think about this from your perspective this morning.
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And I trust Congress and the FBI and everybody with I mean, I have there's no trust left in me on these things.
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And I know testifying in front of Congress, they have anything they want to do, they can do.
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But more importantly, they destroy people's reputations.
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Howard Hughes is one of the only ones that I know that came out unscathed in some something like this.
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Do you worry that because they can't get Donald Trump because there's nothing there that they they are just looking for someone to hang this on, even if they can't really prove it?
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Well, obviously, again, I don't want to ascribe motives to particular members of Congress, but the political nature is not lost on me.
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I you know, obviously, when you look at that there, I think that you can tell from some of the public comments that members of the January six committee have already made continue to make.
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You know, this is more of a political narrative than it is a legislative one.
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And, you know, there's a lot of people claiming the fifth and, you know, or at least I'm reading about that.
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You know, for me, I felt like it was important from a constitutional standpoint that we we fight back on on this executive privilege and the scope of this investigation.
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You know, listen, I trust in the Lord and and that's where I put my trust.
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And I can tell you at this point, I'm fervently praying and, you know, it's Congress will do what they typically always do.
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And and overreach is is one of those attributes.
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So when the courts decide, if they decide you have to testify, you will testify, you have to testify.
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And, yeah, I mean, you know, obviously they're they're the neutral arbiter in all of this, you know, certainly in sharing that.
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I think that many of the Democrat members members of Congress will be very disappointed with the facts and what actually happened, you know, with regards to, you know, President Trump and his team.
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I, you know, and at the same time, you know, I think that they're going to move ahead with contempt and hold me in contempt before that.
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And thank you for you and all your listeners and and really appreciate it.
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Mark Meadows, former White House chief of staff who has just filed a lawsuit against Pelosi and the January 6th committee members.
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Let the Supreme Court decide whether or not executive privilege should be violated for this.
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I know you've got a busy weekend this weekend and wanted to get you on it.
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Just first of all, can you comment on what Mark just said?
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I think Mr. Meadows missed the main point that President Barack Obama signed an executive order
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that says executive privilege extends to presidents after they leave the White House.
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That order is still in play, has not been overridden by Congress, which is the only way executive orders can get off the books.
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So there's no way this committee in Congress will win the lawsuit because this is on the record.
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I mean, if you say executive privilege and you're Donald Trump, which obviously he is, and that extends to Mr. Meadows and everybody else in the White House time.
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So this is all a charade and nonsensical exercise in the exact opposite of what I'll be doing on Saturday and Sunday.
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It's very important that people understand that this is, I'm going to get on the record, Beck.
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I'm going to get on the record things you do not know.
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I'm not going to get on the political merry-go-round, re-litigate the election.
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I was going to lead with the vax and COVID because that affects every American.
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But now I've shifted into Putin because of what Putin's doing.
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That'll be the first topic that President Trump and I discuss.
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Yeah, I'm researching like crazy, you know, to find things that are on the record that I can present to President Trump.
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I would really like to know the process of making Israel, making, I'm sorry, Jerusalem, the embassy site in Israel.
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What kind of pushback did he get that we don't know of?
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You should write that down on a card and give it to me if you can.
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I know you're going to be watching the show because I'm not going to do that in the front line first half of the show.
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There's just too many direct things that I have to deal with that are in the news now and affecting people's lives, like the economy and inflation.
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It is the history tour, but there's a finite amount of time.
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Does it sound like a history tour to you still?
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You know, we're going to have a lot of bouncers at this, too, Beck.
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Because I can do that in the Q&A portion, which is the second part of the program.
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If I decide to, and if an usher will come all the way up there to collect my question, then maybe.
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Hey, real quick, before we take a quick break, how much time do we have?
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Do you see that the Pope said, you know, sleeping before marriage, you know, having sex before marriage, not a big deal.
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Geez, why didn't he say that 50 years ago for me?
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I don't mind being on the bad side of this Pope, but maybe that's just me.
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I've got Bill O'Reilly on, and I want to talk to him about what President Biden did with Vladimir Putin.
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And I think it's the Washington Post that said he laid a red line down.
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I hope it's not like a red line that Barack Obama laid down.
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Well, they say they talk for two hours, and I find that very hard to believe, because if it was that long, Biden would have needed a nap in between.
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Two hours is not, you know, something that he does.
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So, you know, it's hard to be precise on this, because we just don't know.
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If it were Trump talking to Putin, you would add the transcript about 15 minutes after they hung up.
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You know, there's no leaks from the Biden people, which is a tribute to Ron Klain, the chief of staff.
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So I assume they all have little chips implanted in them.
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And if they leak anything, he goes, ooh, ooh, right away.
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Well, I don't think, I mean, the one thing that Biden has that Donald Trump didn't is no enemies around him.
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You know, these people that get into politics for a living, you know, the swamp, they can be bought.
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And certainly the bigger news agencies would want to know if anything extraordinary took place.
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So let me give you a big, an outline, and I'll tie it in because I'm hoping President Trump will illuminate this further on Saturday.
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In addition to being annoying, he is one of the most annoying people on the planet.
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You know, who made his reputation in the KGB slapping 6'4", people like me around.
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And so he's super annoying because he doesn't have to do any of this.
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The second thing is that he sees a corrupt oligarch.
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Putin's one of the wealthiest men in the world.
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And his wealth is centered in Zurich, Switzerland, in a number of numbered accounts, where his girlfriend lives.
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The girlfriend doesn't want to live in Moscow or St. Petersburg.
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So he doesn't have to mass troops on the border of Ukraine because NATO is not going to invade Russia.
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They may give him a little aid here and there, but what is this?
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I want to know if Putin speaks English, for example.
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I mean, after all these years of torturing Western people, maybe picked up a few curse words.
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He watches the interpreter as if he understands none of it.
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And I'll bet you he speaks really, or at least he understands English 100%.
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So I can certainly read the Wall Street Journal.
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Castro spoke English, but he would never speak it.
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So anyway, all Putin wants is to present himself to Russian people as a mini Mussolini, and he struts around.
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However, there's one thing that could bring Putin to his knees, and that is if Joe Biden signs an executive order that says no American banks do business with Russia, and if a foreign bank does, we're not going to do business with that foreign bank.
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Now, I assume that was the red line you mentioned, that the banks.
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Russia needs the currency because they can't survive without international money going in there.
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Well, I don't know what the red line was, but I would take Biden at his word when he says, you know, I can cripple an economy because he's done it here.
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So I think he's probably got a lot of practice.
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But he can't shut down the Nordstrom or whatever it is pipeline.
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And there's a Germans sitting there going, they made a deal with the devil.
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So they make the deal with the devil that they're going to take natural gas from Russia, Germany now, and the pipeline goes from Russia right into Germany under the Baltic Sea.
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But if Biden says no, no more foreign currency going into Russia, then the Germans are going to freeze their tushes off.
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What is what is what are the odds that he does cross that border and goes in and takes Ukraine?
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I don't think that he wants at this juncture to provoke that kind of reaction because the Russian economy is fairly weak.
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And, you know, you're just basically putting your country into a depression.
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China's not going to do anything until after the Olympics.
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I mean, they could saber rattle all they want, but they're putting on an exposition in February and March that will rival Hitler's Olympics in the mid-1930s.
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I don't know whether he agrees with me or not, but China is close to us as far as power is concerned.
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If you push them away and embarrass them and poke them and do all kinds of things, it's much more likely that they will invade Taiwan, that they will help North Korea, that they will even help Putin.
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So they made some stupid diplomatic gesture that means nothing, and I didn't think that was a wrong move by Biden.
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So you disagreed with Donald Trump's approach with the sanctions and how tough he was on China?
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And he never went in and said, you know, in a bellicose way.
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And if he didn't like the deal, then he'd say, well, we're not going to let you do this, or you're going to have to pay more to get your goods into.
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They did that, but that wasn't, you know, provoking anybody to invade or bomb or anything like that.
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Last thing, Bob Dole is lying in state in the U.S.
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Joe Biden is going to give a speech, yada, yada.
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I remember in 1992 that Bob Dole seemed to be the oldest man on Earth.
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Yeah, because we have a system now where it is very difficult to move on up to the east side, as the Jeffersons once sang.
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You have in Washington maybe a half dozen people in the House and Senate that call all the shots, 100% of the shots.
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He used to be able to kind of gather power like Dole did in Kansas and kind of, you know, go right through the system.
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That's why he got the nomination for president.
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And I don't know if Americans understand how the Battle of Anzio, you know, if you read my book on World War II, Killing Patton,
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you know, Dole, he was right in the middle of this thing, and he got, you know, wounded for his whole life.
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So I'm glad he's getting the honor that he is getting.
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So the thing I thought of was that Bob Dole came from the generation that was the hero generation of World War II.
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And they, you know, they didn't come back and write a bunch of books and beat their chest or anything.
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And they were generally a humble group of people.
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The people we have in now are the 60s generation who think that the moon and stars have been hung by them in the age of Aquarius.
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They're just they're just holding on where Bob.
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You know, I said on Bill O'Reilly dot com on the Newsman News the other night that what Americans of all ages don't understand is the vast gulf between the baby boom generation.
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I know the boomers are trying to expel you, but you're in there.
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The vast, the vast difference, because we were raised under parents and grandparents who endured incredible hardship with the Great Depression and World War Two and sacrifice for the good of the country was the mantra.
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And if you didn't do that, you were ostracized.
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And so with that mentality, that selfish, selfish mentality that has permeated into the baby boom generation, by the way, I mean, we're not impervious to this, that you have a totally different societal outlook.
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And that's why the permissiveness and the violent crime and you let homeless people overrun property and you let them shoot up narcotics, you let them do whatever they want.
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OK, that's just stunning to the baby boomers and the few greatest generation people who are left.
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First, let me give you some optimistic news about Omicron.
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At this point, no deaths have been recorded as of last night in connection with the COVID-19 variant Omicron.
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Early studies are now showing that the symptoms are much milder than the other COVID strains.
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And early studies are showing that it is far more transmissible than the dominant Delta strain.
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This could be the dominant strain, and it will kill out all of the other strains.
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It could just become a bad flu, which we'll have to deal with for the rest of our lives.
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I think this was back in January when we were first talking about it.
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I said, this could be, you know, another flu like the 1918 Spanish flu, which is what we have.
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That's just a different strain from the 1918 flu.
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It became very mild, and we deal with it every year.
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And that's what will eventually, hopefully, happen to COVID-19.
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And that's what it looks like that Omicron is all about.
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But you would not know that listening to the experts.
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And part of your job as a leader is to not freak out.
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It's hard, though, when you're the government and you're saying, believe me, I am the voice of science.
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There are indications, as you point out, that maybe it's a little bit less virulent.
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But I don't even think they have that locked down yet, frankly.
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And it's like, instead of just saying, like, look, this is something to keep an eye on.
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You know, South Africa is a little bit ahead of us.
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Obviously, if you've watched us the last 18 months, you know we don't know.
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And let's just tell you that we don't know, and you should go out there and take the information
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you can get and assess your own risk and live your life.
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From the San Francisco Chronicle, they reported yesterday, so far, only one person in the
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U.S. has been hospitalized with Omicron, and there have been no deaths linked to this
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The New York Times reports that while hospitalization and deaths are rising in the United States,
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it is, quote, almost all due to the Delta variant.
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Yeah, it's 99.9% of cases are the Delta variant right now.
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And now, Omicron is not, that's not the case in South Africa.
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So the South, South Africa looks to be the new cases, the dominant variant is Omicron.
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So it does seem to be being passed around pretty quickly, but we'll see.
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But that's optimistic news, and let's just continue to watch it.
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Instead of panicking everybody about everything.
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Now, I have some video, and I rolled my eyes when I first heard about it, and then I watched
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This is video captured by our security guard that looks at a bank of cameras every night.
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He's here by himself, and a few of the cameras are in the secure vault area where we keep
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And when I got here one morning last week, this particular guard was as white as the driven
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He was shaking, and he said, I have to, he said to the chief of security, I have to show
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you something because I think, I think there are ghosts in the museum and in the vault.
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And Craig kind of rolled his eyes and went, uh-huh, okay.
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And we watched it on the playback from the security cameras.
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But we can't figure out what this is, and I want to play it.
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If you happen to be watching on the blaze, I want to play this for you.
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Um, we have probably, I don't even know, 20 cameras all over, and, uh, none of the cameras
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And, uh, if you're, uh, you're seeing there is one, something that looks like a cloud of
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smoke comes in from one corner and then disappears.
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And then another one goes to the opposite corner, uh, slowly across the screen.
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It sort of looks like an animal at times, but then it sort of dissolves.
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Um, now go to the, uh, can you go to the other ones?
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There's another one here that comes from the opposite direction.
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And what's kind of spooky is where these things are either coming from or going to is right
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We have in one area of the, um, museum in the exhibit hall.
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This is the electric chair from the New York prison.
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Uh, but, uh, I mean, I guess it could be, I mean, that that is moving.
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That is like a round ball of something moving very quickly.
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I mean, I guess in theory, some of them look like potentially you could say they're just
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like pieces of dust or debris moving close to the camera, right?
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Like a lot closer to the camera than the floor is.
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How come no other cameras are showing those things?
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Why is no other camera anywhere close to the camera?
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Only the camera that it's close to would show it.
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But you would have, if that was dust, you would see that occasionally on other cameras
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because it's not like the exhibit hall is just dust.
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And only this one by the electric chair and the guillotine and some of the stuff from Auschwitz
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Now, some people said that they could see a face in that.
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And if that's true, do you have the picture of the face?
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I mean, is this a Raiders of the Lost Ark thing?
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I believe that there is a thin line between the two worlds.
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I'm trapped here because I was connected to the electric chair.
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I don't think it's the dust explanation because we would have seen it on the other cameras.
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Well, the other cameras, there are other images going by that look different than the one I was just talking about.
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It's almost like it looks like it's galloping in some weird way.
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And in that exhibit hall, we've never seen that, and it only happened.
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This guy watches these monitors every night, and he was like, it was that night.
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Well, the only explanation is our evil spirits from the Nazi boxes.
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No, but it does look a little like what I saw in Ghostbusters, the one that was eating the hot dogs.
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It's not, but that's because it's night vision.
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I'm just saying that it's a difficult thing to pick up in the dark.
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I'm not a huge, I'm usually the type of person that says, you know what?
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If anybody, I may be wrong on a ghost here and there, but I'm going to be right most of the time when I say it's not a ghost.
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I just don't, you know, there are things in that part of the room that I purchased because I collect the dark things of history so we don't forget.
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You know, there's nothing quite like saying, you know, revolutions usually end, you know, with your head being chopped off.
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And talking about Tesla and Edison and what a bastard Edison was and the height of his arrogance and his just disgusting lack of humanity is the New York electric chair and having it and go.
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That's kind of a that's kind of a cool thing to have, but I have never put them in the house.
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I've never put any of this stuff in my house because I don't I just don't want that juju in my house.
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And we have a team that prays over everything and we pray in that area.
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I don't necessarily believe in ghosts, but I do believe in spirits.
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I will say I'm just, you know, speculating on mundane things.
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And then he played it back and he's like, that's not.
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It's kind of like, you know, in planes, trains and automobiles.
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If you're watching, if you're watching, call us.
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I'd love to hear what I just love to hear your thoughts on them.
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The government has verified that they have pieces of alien technology.
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So is it really a stretch to say it might be a ghost in this world?
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We just got a piece of the Hindenburg, which you have to see, Stu.
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It's a big piece of the structure of the Hindenburg.
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So one of the guys who was doing the forensics on it at the time brought a huge
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But maybe that was Hitler looking for the Hindenburg.