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Glenn and Sarah talk about aliens and a miracle in the middle of nowhere, Kentucky. Plus, an update on Pat Gray, who is fighting for his life in the ICU. And Glenn explains why he thinks aliens are actually out there.
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That's Sarah, our producer, who's saying she's charging tips now.
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She's put in a digital kiosk where every time she has to press a button,
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And, you know, it's, I mean, she thought it would work
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to make that digital kiosk look like a giant thong.
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so she doesn't realize 45% of zero is still zero.
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Okay, so the podcast today pulls some really great stuff.
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We talked to one of the commanders of Space Force
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what's happening with China, with Russia, and aliens.
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His answer on aliens is really quite interesting.
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A couple people didn't leave after the prayer call.
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It has been going 24 hours a day now for a couple of weeks.
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Wait until you hear the people that were there.
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The American Society of Healthcare Pharmacists,
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has declared a worldwide shortage of antibiotics.
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Kind of a critical drug to combat all kinds of things.
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my child developed an infection while we were on vacation.
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that the antibiotics from the Jace case saved her life.
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And then we couldn't talk to him for, like, you know,
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I apologized to you when it was Saturday when I saw you.
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I apologized because I broke a promise with you.
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the other would exploit it for ratings purposes.
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But if they're not finding people who are crying
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and putting them on the air the very next day...
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Look, this is something I think we all understand.
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Now, you guys started this long before I was part of the team here.
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So, it's a central part of the foundation of the show.
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And Pat's in full kidney failure, and he could die.
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Because to do the right thing here is the wrong thing.
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I should go on the air today, talk about how he's at death's door, and talk about his cookie
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And say, it definitely was not the cookies, and I will tell you this, Jackie, Pat was
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such a, even if this isn't true, such a horrible investor.
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Jackie and the kids, even though they're already out of the house, are going to be out of the
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And Sarah and Stu, I said, what do you, because I was really torn, I didn't, you know, I didn't
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remember if Jackie was fully aware of our deal.
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I think we should make our spouses aware of it.
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So, Stu says, and Sarah both say, might be too soon.
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And they're like, no, you know, I mean, it might be too soon.
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Well, there was a thought of, like, maybe he actually is dying.
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And this is part of the charm of knowing Pat Gray.
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If you need to get in touch with him and get information, you can't.
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You've got to call Glenn's wife, and if his wife is not near him, you still can't get
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But I want way less information about Glenn's private life.
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Pat, on the other hand, you know, I'm, like, texting Keith.
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Like, I was like, and we didn't know at that point.
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And so, there was never a moment in which, and you should know this, Pat, as your friend,
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I never at any time suggested we should not exploit this to get you money through Pepsi
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There was never a moment in which I suggested that, nor did Sarah.
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You might be viewed as a horrible human being by his wife.
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I mean, I did mention, and to be fair, I was concerned about mocking your condition.
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Well, no, you definitely said you were going to.
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Well, you, it was more of the mocking his situation than exploiting it for, like, I'm
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fine with you joking about, hey, we need to make sure we get, you know, you need to go
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I was going to say, I believe he will be dead soon.
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That may have been, yeah, I think that might have been.
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And you never know, this could be your last chance to get a cookie while I am still alive.
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Now listen, I'm the one in the kitchen all the time.
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I had acute kidney injury that brought on the failure.
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And then you also, then you also have your blood sugar at 700.
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And they, and did they not say you should be dead?
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And did the doctor not sit down with you and Jackie when he came, he ran in tests.
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So that's when I went to the intensive care unit.
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And so, first of all, in all seriousness, what's the outlook here?
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He refuses to answer that question because it's very sensitive.
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May I be a little more friendly and ask, is your kidney function back up?
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Could this kidney function, unbeknownst to you, suddenly plummet and stop working at any moment?
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I want you to go to Keksi Cookies right now and order some cookies.
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And the hospital bills, you had hospital bills, didn't you?
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You're not going to answer about insurance because it's bad.
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I'm pretty sure I have the same insurance you do.
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Does Keksi also, is it cookies and insurance at Keksi.com?
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I refuse to answer that because it doesn't even seem like a fair question.
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I will say the day before all this happened, you know, I look out, we have glass windows
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in front of me and I can see people coming in and out.
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And at one point, Pat was walking up the stairs and I said to Glenn, that does not look
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I got off the air and walked over to you and we had a conversation.
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How much of that pain was your kidneys going, help?
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When you have, when you live in pain like this all the time, you know, pain is.
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And pain is your thing that, you know, you go, I should have that checked.
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It's like, it's like the car alarm that goes off every single morning out in front of your
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So forgive my ignorance here, but so legitimately you can't have any of these things ever again?
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Well, I mean, I'm told by a dietician that that shouldn't be the way I look at things.
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And that's like Joe Biden saying, Joe Biden says, we shouldn't look at inflation as the
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I mean, could I have a half a cup of ice cream every month or something?
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So Kexi, the reason why Pat is in so much trouble is they had to buy the entire island
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So this is just like total, is the solution to this like medication?
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I mean, what part of diabetes don't you understand?
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We were concerned and so were a lot of people that just hadn't thought of dialing, you know,
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There's only one way to soothe the pain of a close, beloved friend in kidney failure.
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Now, I should say thank you, first of all, for your courage.
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You had a nice position as a lieutenant colonel at Space Force, and you came out and started
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talking about the dangers of CRT and what was being done by the Pentagon, and they didn't
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I did have a good position, so to speak, and I was in command of our nation's space-based
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missile warning enterprise, which implies senior military leaders at some point did, in fact,
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trust me to be a good leader and to make proper strategic assessments and whatnot.
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But the fact is, I didn't just write an expose or a book that I then made public without first
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bringing up some of my concerns with senior military leaders themselves.
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The entire chain of command of the Space Force had been aware of what should properly be
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characterized as overt left-wing political talking points, anti-American sentiment in
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And I was bringing that to their attention, which included Marxist-rooted critical race
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theory in the form of what we call diversity and inclusion trainings.
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But they agreed with me that it was a big problem, but the fact is, who are you going
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Are we in the proper climate that we've created for ourselves to hold some of these activists
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And apparently, the answer was no, we weren't in a position to try and hold them accountable.
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And so that led to a formal written inspector general's complaint, which was dismissed right
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I was in a unique position in uniform to see what was happening within the ranks of the
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military and how divisive that ideology can be.
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I've often said what Marxism does to someone in China, it will do to an American.
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And CRT, as we're increasingly aware, destroys everything it touches.
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But we've got, as you've mentioned, bigger concerns on the horizon and happening in the
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Well, before we leave this subject, today I found out that the recruiting for the military
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They said, that's because the youth, you know, they just, they don't see the military as relevant.
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Really, how come all of a sudden, after Afghanistan, and after the CRT nonsense, your recruiting
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You know, one of the things, it's easy to tell at a glance at any given moment how our
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But what it's not easy to assess real time at a glance is how our retention efforts are
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doing, and that's often left out of the headlines.
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But, you know, I talk to service members all the time.
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They reach out, both thanking me for my book and also seeking for help, quite frankly, on
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how to navigate the current politicized workplace in the uniformed services.
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But they are telling me, and this is anecdotal, I get it, but it's real world on the ground
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intel, that they and a bunch of people that are currently in uniform, their active duty service
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But when they are up, they're going to be getting out of the service.
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And so not only do we face recruitment issues, we're going to have a really difficult time
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this year and in the next year retaining folks who have served for a very long time.
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And it's not, you know, pick the issues that senior defense officials want to point a finger
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It's the very policies that are being pushed down the pipe right now and hoisted upon our
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service members that's hurting morale and disincentivizing them for continued service.
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We're talking to former Space Force Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer.
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You can find him at MatthewLohmeyer.com or follow him on Twitter at Matthew Lohmeyer.
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I want to switch now to the balloons that we've had.
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I mean, you, as you know, you were in in charge of our space missile defense.
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Do you think we're shooting aliens out of the sky in balloons?
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The timing of all of this is really interesting as well.
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One of the things that's become quite clear over the last 10 days is that senior military
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leaders, Jim Mattis included, apparently, and White House officials have known about
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Chinese spy balloons for years, violating the sovereignty of countries around the globe
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and potentially including our own and apparently not informing the sitting commander in chief
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Why we've decided to start shooting them out of the sky over North America now is in fact
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The timing is curious and perhaps the timing matters.
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This sounds like conspiracy theory, but in fact, it's not.
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In fact, we've been trained for the past couple of years to ask important questions.
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Perhaps it's really convenient to have those shoot downs in the headlines right now instead
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of any number of other things that have been in the headlines.
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I mean, there's been a classified document scandal at Joe Biden's residence.
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There are more revelations about Hunter Biden's corruption with his dad while he was the vice
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president and in dealings with Middle Eastern countries and in China than at any other time
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And we've got information that's coming to light about Jim Biden's dealings with Assad.
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We've got a well-stitched reporting that came from Seymour Hirsch.
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I mean, the guy's done phenomenal reporting for decades.
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And some of the details that he shares in an interview that I just watched yesterday are
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And in fact, you know, you take a look back earlier last year and Joe Biden, because he
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can't help himself, is making statements about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline ceasing to exist
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And then the Nord Stream 2 pipeline ceases to exist, at least temporarily.
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And then, of course, there was the imminent release of the Jeffrey Epstein visitor logs and
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And so all of that is swirling about in headlines.
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Now, I think that the first balloon that we shot down was, in fact, a spy balloon from
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What did they get that they couldn't get on a satellite?
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So every country who has a spacefaring capability is engaged in spying on our adversaries.
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But you do that outside of the sovereign airspace of nations and in space.
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And we do that from low Earth orbit with optical capabilities.
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But the closer you are to the Earth, the fact of the matter is, the better images you're
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But what's most concerning is not just more images.
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The fact is, depending on what capabilities were aboard that first balloon that we shot
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down, I think it was on the 4th of February, there's any number of other signals, transmissions,
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code that could have been either interfered with, tampered with, or received or retrieved
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But it's totally bogus that we were told, as the American people, that the concern was
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And that's why we weren't shooting it out of the sky and we're letting it traverse the
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I mean, any American citizen who's been up in a commercial airliner can take a look around
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and tell you that most places over the continental United States don't have people living there.
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And the moment that thing left overhead any major U.S. city, it should have been brought
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I mean, we could have just brought it to its knees and brought it down and kept it intact
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and tried to be transparent with the American people about what it is that we think we saw.
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We shoot it down over water, send it to FBI headquarters of all things, and then complain
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that we can't quite recover all of the capabilities that were aboard the balloon.
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I mean, here's something that's important as a principle for your listener to keep in
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In relative peacetime, it's difficult enough, as we've seen, to stitch together an accurate
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view of the things that are taking place in global politics.
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But when you're talking relative wartime, increased and heightened conflict, it's going
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to be nearly impossible because deception is an important part of grand strategy.
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I unfortunately think we're getting deception from our own government to our own people.
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And, you know, one of those things is that China is the new model, which I believe they
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believe, but that, you know, that they're not hostile to us.
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There is plenty of evidence that they are fighting a war that we refuse to involve ourselves or even
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In fact, you almost, okay, if I was Xi Jinping, I would try to avoid a shooting match with the
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In fact, I didn't see the show that you had mentioned that you've done last night, but
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I presume you're talking about the work called Unrestricted Warfare.
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Nothing in that book, the overarching premise of the strategy to defeat the West and the
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United States in particular is that nothing is off the table as far as how you pursue
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It doesn't have to be direct, kinetic, conventional warfare and tactics.
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And so, again, the American people have to ask themselves the question, must military
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And so, to your point, Xi Jinping, more than frankly, many American people are willing to
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acknowledge at this point, is well aware of the fact that we're in a kind of cold civil
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And so that combination in combination with the fact that we are indeed in a new cold war
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with China and the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping is a terrible combination.
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And if I was him, I'd sit and watch our own disintegration from within our own borders.
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I'd watch bad policy decisions being made by people like Joe Biden and the Biden administration.
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And I'd cheer that on and I'd influence it in every possible way that did not involve
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direct kinetic operations so that I could emerge the great, the benevolent superpower who
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didn't need to shed a drop of blood to rise to preeminence in the world stage.
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Not only does that allow him to keep some semblance of a reputation intact, it allows him to make claims about the superiority of their worldview and ideology, the communist, the Marxist, the Maoist worldview.
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And it was superior to the capitalist worldview.
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And look, they crumbled under the weight of their own foolishness while we emerged the global hegemon, not just a regional hegemon, but the global hegemon.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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There is a college in Kentucky that has a weekly chapel service.
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I know that's weird enough, but it goes further than that.
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On February 8th, there was a morning service and there was an altar call.
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Just come on down if you want to get prayed on.
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And there was just a couple dozen students there that they were gathering.
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It's been going on now since February 8th, 24 hours a day, and people are coming from all over the country.
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She is with the, she's actually the student body president at Ashbury University.
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I think this is, I mean, this almost brings tears to my eyes.
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This is such a miraculous thing that's going on.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know if you've ever heard of Wilmore, Kentucky, but we have one street and we call it downtown.
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And so when the whole world is watching us, you have to wonder what is God doing here?
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Because there's nothing about here that people want to see.
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And then how, how did other people, I mean, that's a small town.
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How, how did it go on for even just the first 24 hours?
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It's like you said, February 8th, we had our, our regular chapel and then a couple of students didn't leave.
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And then a couple of students heard that a couple of students didn't leave.
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And then President Brown came over and I came over to see what was happening.
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And, and, and I, I, I can just say that Holy Spirit was, was so present there.
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And then our surrounding communities heard about it.
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And obviously social media played a huge role in, in spreading the word.
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And we've had friends now from Brazil and Indonesia.
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And I mean, everybody, everybody wants in on it.
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Um, this is, this is, um, this is something that I, I really respect.
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Um, the fact that you didn't push this out on social media, you, you are, you're not hyping this.
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You're kind of a reluctant group to make a big deal out of this because you say it's a, it's really a sacred thing that just is happening organically.
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And especially because I think it's something that Asbury and a lot of universities and honestly, just my generation struggles with is, is pride.
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And what we've seen here is just such a radical humility that students are standing up and, and confessing things that have been done to them or that they've done.
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And, and they're opening their hearts up to not only the presence of God, but to each other.
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And so there are some mixed feelings about it becoming global and it's obviously amazing and it's great.
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But, but there is that, that core of honesty that, that we're still holding on to.
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So, well, I bet you that there were a lot of people at the Sermon on the Mount that thought, I don't, this shouldn't go global.
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In fact, I know it shouldn't go to the Gentiles.
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Um, and, uh, I just, I just think this is remarkable.
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So there's no speakers or anything going on, right?
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Yeah, it's, um, there's, there's been a couple of people just kind of facilitating it, you know, keeping everyone safe and also guiding the conversation, making sure that we're setting up healthy, healthy boundaries for what we're talking about, um, with big groups of people.
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But no, beyond that, I mean, like it's unfathomable.
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Imagine students just bringing mattresses into an old wooden auditorium and spending the night there.
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This, I mean, think of the opposite of Occupy Wall Street.
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Remember how horrible that the conditions became and everything else.
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Um, do you, when you say the thing that we want to save space for the things we're talking about, what does that mean exactly?
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Yeah, I mean, I, I think that there's just an intimacy, um, when a body of believers is together because, you know, your self-consciousness kind of falls off and your pride kind of falls off and, and that should be protected.
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Um, and just, just, just, I mean, we've had women here who, who have gotten help leaving an abusive relationship, for example.
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And that's something that, you know, isn't to be displayed or promoted.
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Um, that's just genuine, life is hard and God is good kind of a, kind of a situation.
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So do you think that, I mean, I know you're still in it, so it's hard to process, but do you think this is, this is, uh, a thing where the spirit is pouring out for a renewal of faith, calling out for a renewal of faith?
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Is it a thing because there's so much darkness in the world?
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What, what do you, or is it just a personal thing and everyone approaches it differently?
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And I think, uh, you know, I remember, um, my freshman year was when COVID hit and our community was totally divided.
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Um, and I remember we would just say like, oh, how could this get any worse?
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And now there are thousands of people here and we're just all, um, together and we're, it's just the opposite.
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And so now we're saying like, oh, how could this get any better?
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And I think all those things you said are true.
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I think, um, that we're hungry and desperate for community and I, and for God.
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Um, and I think that that is different for everyone.
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I mean, there's people coming for physical healing, for, um, freedom from anxiety and depression.
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And, uh, and please thank the people in your town for creating the atmosphere where the spirit could dwell.
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Um, I've not heard of your university before, but I am going to look into your university now.
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I, I just, it takes, um, it takes a very different place for this to happen in today's world.
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And then on the other hand, it just takes someone who, who asks God for it.
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And I will pass that along, especially to, to president Brown.
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And, um, I just appreciate the chance to talk about it.
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That is, uh, from the university called Asbury university.
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She's the student body president, Alison Perfader about something remarkable that is happening in Kentucky today.
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To me, this story gives me more hope than any anti ESG story or anything else that I am passionate about.
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This story is truly to me, the biggest story of the week and may end up being one of the biggest stories of this time period.
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Pray for them and, uh, just join them in prayer.
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Gather, even if you're not anywhere around there, uh, join them in prayer.