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00:00:00.000 You're actually charging tips now?

00:00:03.200 Sarah's now tips.

00:00:05.620 Yeah.

00:00:06.560 So I know.

00:00:07.720 That's Sarah.

00:00:08.340 I don't know if you can hear.

00:00:09.200 That's Sarah, our producer, who's saying she's charging tips now.

00:00:12.440 She's put in a digital kiosk where every time she has to press a button,

00:00:17.000 we have to walk over and press the 15.

00:00:19.000 The choices are 15, 35, and 45% tips.

00:00:21.720 Right.

00:00:22.220 And, you know, it's, I mean, she thought it would work

00:00:25.900 to make that digital kiosk look like a giant thong. 0.99

00:00:30.260 But I'm not going to.

00:00:33.060 I will say, luckily, she's not good at math, 0.95

00:00:34.900 so she doesn't realize 45% of zero is still zero.

00:00:37.820 So that's luckily.

00:00:38.980 It is?

00:00:39.700 Yeah. 1.00

00:00:40.240 Crap. 1.00

00:00:41.320 Our plan didn't work, Sarah. 0.99

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00:03:13.620 From, really, a miraculous few days,

00:03:23.300 last week, Pat Gray fell ill,

00:03:27.960 and we found that, what was it, Thursday?

00:03:30.940 Did you go in?

00:03:31.800 I went in Tuesday.

00:03:32.720 Tuesday.

00:03:34.040 He went in Tuesday night,

00:03:35.840 and Wednesday morning,

00:03:37.060 we hear at 1 o'clock in the morning,

00:03:39.460 Pat's in full kidney failure,

00:03:41.180 and it doesn't look good.

00:03:44.060 And we're like,

00:03:46.220 all right, that doesn't sound good.

00:03:50.700 And there was no good news.

00:03:52.620 And then we couldn't talk to him for, like, you know,

00:03:56.260 a day or so.

00:03:57.520 He's like, oh, my kidneys have shut down.

00:04:00.140 And so...

00:04:01.020 That's exactly what I was whining about.

00:04:03.480 Now, Pat,

00:04:04.240 I apologized to you when it was Saturday when I saw you.

00:04:09.180 I apologized because I broke a promise with you.

00:04:13.640 And we made a promise, what, 1990?

00:04:15.620 1990.

00:04:16.220 That if either of us were dead or dying,

00:04:19.100 the other would exploit it for ratings purposes.

00:04:21.440 Yes.

00:04:22.080 Or for wealth.

00:04:23.220 We've had that.

00:04:23.840 Yeah, right.

00:04:24.240 Like, the J-I died. 1.00

00:04:26.020 The ratings lead to wealth.

00:04:27.200 I want everyone in this audience to know,

00:04:30.740 if I'm hit by a bus,

00:04:32.260 I die of a heart attack,

00:04:33.800 George Soros finally gets me,

00:04:35.640 whatever it is, okay?

00:04:37.600 Mm-hmm.

00:04:38.020 Uh-huh.

00:04:38.520 If Stu is not on the air,

00:04:41.120 and Pat, if he's alive,

00:04:42.600 but I got an update on that.

00:04:44.300 If he's alive...

00:04:45.720 You have an update on him being alive

00:04:47.200 even though he's sitting right here?

00:04:48.220 Yes, I do.

00:04:49.140 I'm a doctor, man.

00:04:50.600 That's true.

00:04:51.060 Uh, and they are not exploiting my death,

00:04:55.020 and they're not gonna have tears being shed.

00:04:57.660 But if they're not finding people who are crying

00:05:00.260 and putting them on the air the very next day...

00:05:03.360 Even if it's about other things.

00:05:04.480 They are not good human beings.

00:05:06.600 Okay?

00:05:07.380 Right.

00:05:07.740 Look, this is something I think we all understand.

00:05:10.580 We all understand that.

00:05:11.140 Yeah, you've known that for a long time.

00:05:12.360 We have.

00:05:12.660 I've known this for a long time.

00:05:13.800 Now, you guys started this long before I was part of the team here.

00:05:17.360 Yes.

00:05:17.620 But I've heard about it multiple times.

00:05:19.960 Yes.

00:05:20.200 And we're dead serious.

00:05:21.600 Are you not dead serious?

00:05:22.680 Yeah.

00:05:22.820 So, it's a central part of the foundation of the show.

00:05:25.460 It is.

00:05:26.100 Exploit other members' deaths.

00:05:27.500 Deaths.

00:05:28.080 Okay.

00:05:28.380 Yes.

00:05:28.800 It's the way we deal with things.

00:05:30.180 Yes.

00:05:30.320 So, anyway.

00:05:31.300 So, I came in on Thursday morning.

00:05:35.500 Was it Thursday morning?

00:05:36.320 No.

00:05:36.680 Wednesday morning.

00:05:37.780 Mm-hmm.

00:05:38.220 And Pat's in full kidney failure, and he could die.

00:05:42.440 That's the news we have.

00:05:43.940 Mm-hmm.

00:05:44.360 Okay?

00:05:44.900 May not be coming back.

00:05:46.040 And I said, Stu, I got a problem.

00:05:52.360 Because to do the right thing here is the wrong thing.

00:05:59.560 I should go on the air today, talk about how he's at death's door, and talk about his cookie

00:06:07.340 company, Taxi Cookies.

00:06:09.380 Yes.

00:06:09.760 And say, it definitely was not the cookies, and I will tell you this, Jackie, Pat was

00:06:18.660 such a, even if this isn't true, such a horrible investor.

00:06:22.720 He's got nothing.

00:06:25.100 Jackie and the kids, even though they're already out of the house, are going to be out of the

00:06:29.700 house.

00:06:30.140 Mm-hmm.

00:06:30.260 Okay?

00:06:31.220 Please go to-

00:06:33.180 What is it?

00:06:33.920 Kexi? 0.97

00:06:34.180 Kexi.com.

00:06:35.080 Kexi.com.

00:06:36.960 Help him through this impossible-

00:06:38.480 Help him through.

00:06:39.160 Situation.

00:06:39.640 And the family.

00:06:40.640 And so, we had a serious discussion, Pat.

00:06:43.760 And Sarah and Stu, I said, what do you, because I was really torn, I didn't, you know, I didn't

00:06:51.240 remember if Jackie was fully aware of our deal.

00:06:55.200 Yeah.

00:06:55.580 I think we should make our spouses aware of it. 0.74

00:06:58.020 Definitely.

00:06:58.580 Definitely.

00:06:59.180 Yes.

00:06:59.400 So, Stu says, and Sarah both say, might be too soon.

00:07:06.840 Okay.

00:07:07.340 And I said, oh, you think?

00:07:10.400 And they're like, no, you know, I mean, it might be too soon.

00:07:14.860 Well, there was a thought of, like, maybe he actually is dying.

00:07:18.240 But that's the deal.

00:07:19.900 And this is part of the charm of knowing Pat Gray.

00:07:23.820 If you need to get in touch with him and get information, you can't.

00:07:28.200 That's not something that can occur.

00:07:30.180 It's the same with Glenn.

00:07:31.300 Yeah.

00:07:31.540 Oh, yeah.

00:07:32.100 It's the same.

00:07:33.680 Glenn.

00:07:33.900 You've got to call Glenn's wife, and if his wife is not near him, you still can't get

00:07:38.780 him.

00:07:39.200 But I want way less information about Glenn's private life.

00:07:42.920 Like, I would love to know much less.

00:07:44.620 Okay.

00:07:45.100 And I know too much.

00:07:46.300 Right.

00:07:46.600 Right.

00:07:46.840 All right.

00:07:47.260 Pat, on the other hand.

00:07:48.320 That infection has all been cleared up.

00:07:49.640 I know.

00:07:50.460 Congratulations.

00:07:51.140 Thank you.

00:07:52.400 Pat, on the other hand, you know, I'm, like, texting Keith.

00:07:55.940 You know, I'm just like, hey, is Pat alive?

00:07:57.780 Like, I was like, and we didn't know at that point.

00:08:00.460 And so, there was never a moment in which, and you should know this, Pat, as your friend,

00:08:06.240 I never at any time suggested we should not exploit this to get you money through Pepsi

00:08:11.880 Cookies.

00:08:12.480 There was never a moment in which I suggested that, nor did Sarah.

00:08:16.140 But he planted the seed of doubt.

00:08:19.700 Oh.

00:08:20.140 All right.

00:08:20.780 He was like, I don't know, Glenn. 0.98

00:08:23.000 You might be viewed as a horrible human being by his wife. 0.73

00:08:27.420 I mean, I did mention, and to be fair, I was concerned about mocking your condition.

00:08:34.940 Yeah.

00:08:35.400 Okay.

00:08:35.680 I wasn't going to mock it.

00:08:36.100 Because I thought you were going to die.

00:08:37.760 Well, no, you definitely said you were going to.

00:08:40.660 No, I said I was going to exploit it.

00:08:42.480 No, exploitation I'm totally fine with.

00:08:45.580 My concern was-

00:08:47.420 Was mocking?

00:08:48.260 Actually mocking your potential actual death.

00:08:51.860 How was I going to mock it?

00:08:53.340 Well, you, it was more of the mocking his situation than exploiting it for, like, I'm

00:09:00.120 fine with you joking about, hey, we need to make sure we get, you know, you need to go

00:09:04.540 to Kexi.com. 0.63

00:09:05.300 I was going to say, I believe he will be dead soon.

00:09:11.000 Next couple of, maybe during this show.

00:09:13.780 That may have been, yeah, I think that might have been.

00:09:14.980 Maybe during the show.

00:09:16.100 And you never know, this could be your last chance to get a cookie while I am still alive.

00:09:20.500 Right.

00:09:20.740 So go to Kexi.com.

00:09:23.020 They're Jackie's recipes.

00:09:24.660 Kexi.com will log out those cookies. 0.98

00:09:26.980 Do not listen to that liar.

00:09:29.400 Now listen, I'm the one in the kitchen all the time. 0.99

00:09:32.320 Really?

00:09:32.820 I've never seen you.

00:09:34.400 I always have an apron on.

00:09:36.220 So here's what happened.

00:09:38.780 You go to the hospital.

00:09:40.420 You have a kidney stone.

00:09:42.640 Yeah.

00:09:43.160 Your kidneys are in total shutdown failure.

00:09:46.120 Yeah.

00:09:46.460 Right?

00:09:46.800 I had acute kidney injury that brought on the failure.

00:09:49.460 And then you also, then you also have your blood sugar at 700.

00:09:55.340 Which I had no idea.

00:09:56.640 Yeah.

00:09:56.920 About.

00:09:57.420 You've been diabetic now for.

00:09:59.940 Who knows?

00:10:00.980 I don't know.

00:10:01.920 Okay.

00:10:02.100 But they say probably a couple of months.

00:10:03.760 They said at least three months.

00:10:05.120 Right. 0.99

00:10:05.400 And they, and did they not say you should be dead? 0.99

00:10:08.620 Yeah.

00:10:09.060 And did the doctor not sit down with you and Jackie when he came, he ran in tests.

00:10:13.280 In the emergency room, he came in and said.

00:10:15.380 Sat down. 1.00

00:10:15.900 You are a very, very sick man. 1.00

00:10:19.460 I'm like, well, I know I got a kidney stone. 1.00

00:10:22.060 It really hurts.

00:10:23.460 Right.

00:10:23.680 He's like, no, it's way beyond that.

00:10:25.620 I'm like, oh, oh, okay.

00:10:27.500 So that's when I went to the intensive care unit.

00:10:30.960 And so, first of all, in all seriousness, what's the outlook here?

00:10:34.120 Is everything looking okay?

00:10:35.260 Everything's fine.

00:10:36.200 Everything's great.

00:10:36.680 He refuses to answer that question because it's very sensitive.

00:10:40.840 Thank you.

00:10:41.600 Pat.

00:10:42.080 There's HIPAA laws, Stu.

00:10:43.940 It's illegal to ask me that.

00:10:45.740 May I be a little more friendly and ask, is your kidney function back up?

00:10:51.420 It is.

00:10:52.140 Could this kidney function, unbeknownst to you, suddenly plummet and stop working at any moment?

00:11:00.840 At any time.

00:11:01.800 I want you to go to Keksi Cookies right now and order some cookies.

00:11:06.820 These are the best cookies.

00:11:08.160 Keksi.com.

00:11:09.800 Keksi.com.

00:11:10.960 K-E-X. 1.00

00:11:12.940 K-E-K-S-I.

00:11:14.880 K-E-K-S-I.com.

00:11:15.480 Whatever. 1.00

00:11:16.120 It's a stupid name. 1.00

00:11:17.680 I was against this before the kidney failure. 1.00

00:11:21.340 But Keksi.com.

00:11:23.940 Get those cookies. 0.50

00:11:24.540 Eat the cookies because I can't anymore.

00:11:26.700 Wait, you can't?

00:11:27.440 No.

00:11:28.080 Oh, no.

00:11:28.640 Oh, my gosh, no.

00:11:29.920 You can't eat cookies anymore?

00:11:31.260 No.

00:11:31.560 He can't have cookies.

00:11:32.760 He's a diabetic now.

00:11:33.880 Ice cream.

00:11:35.120 None of that stuff.

00:11:35.900 Ice cream.

00:11:36.780 You can't.

00:11:37.120 Pat.

00:11:38.000 Listen to me.

00:11:38.760 Listen to me.

00:11:39.100 Can't have ice cream.

00:11:39.380 Shush.

00:11:39.880 Shush.

00:11:40.540 Listen to me, audience.

00:11:41.980 Okay?

00:11:43.120 Pat will die without ice cream. 0.99

00:11:46.260 It'll happen.

00:11:47.580 It will.

00:11:47.960 He will die without ice cream.

00:11:51.300 Enjoy it for him with a great cookie.

00:11:54.560 Keksi.com.

00:11:56.300 Keksi.com.

00:11:57.600 Please, before time runs out.

00:12:00.120 And the hospital bills, you had hospital bills, didn't you?

00:12:04.320 Huge.

00:12:04.760 They're huge hospital bills.

00:12:05.760 Huge hospital bills.

00:12:10.280 You're not going to answer about insurance because it's bad.

00:12:13.500 I'm just saying.

00:12:14.160 Whatever it is.

00:12:14.960 Whatever it is, it's bad.

00:12:16.840 Keksi is really.

00:12:18.320 I'm pretty sure I have the same insurance you do.

00:12:20.380 No, no.

00:12:20.580 You don't want to say that.

00:12:21.640 You don't want to say that.

00:12:21.960 Yeah.

00:12:22.200 The only hope is Keksi.com.

00:12:25.600 Keksi.

00:12:26.120 That's a good point.

00:12:26.500 Do they provide insurance?

00:12:28.100 Does Keksi also, is it cookies and insurance at Keksi.com?

00:12:32.140 I refuse to answer that because it doesn't even seem like a fair question.

00:12:37.860 No, that's true.

00:12:38.640 Doesn't even seem.

00:12:40.100 So, Pat, as we wheel you back out.

00:12:43.080 Right.

00:12:43.260 We're glad you're alive.

00:12:46.320 Thank you.

00:12:47.060 That was scary, man.

00:12:47.820 I'm serious.

00:12:48.580 It literally was scary.

00:12:49.980 It was terrifying.

00:12:50.880 Stop doing that.

00:12:51.740 Yeah.

00:12:52.000 Stop it.

00:12:52.400 I'd like to.

00:12:53.060 I'd like to very much stop doing that.

00:12:55.220 Yeah.

00:12:55.440 I will say the day before all this happened, you know, I look out, we have glass windows

00:12:59.780 in front of me and I can see people coming in and out.

00:13:01.700 And at one point, Pat was walking up the stairs and I said to Glenn, that does not look

00:13:05.380 like a healthy individual.

00:13:06.700 I know.

00:13:06.940 You looked like you were like.

00:13:08.640 You looked bad.

00:13:09.300 And that was the day before.

00:13:10.380 Oh, I barely got up the stairs.

00:13:12.420 I got off the air and walked over to you and we had a conversation.

00:13:16.720 I'm like, are you okay?

00:13:18.460 Yeah.

00:13:19.060 And.

00:13:19.940 No.

00:13:20.360 No.

00:13:20.780 You were in so much pain at the time.

00:13:23.160 Oh, my gosh.

00:13:23.800 How much of that pain was your kidneys going, help?

00:13:28.720 Probably all of it.

00:13:30.640 Oh, my God.

00:13:31.200 Probably all of it.

00:13:33.200 It's so dangerous.

00:13:34.140 When you have, when you live in pain like this all the time, you know, pain is.

00:13:38.620 You kind of get used to it.

00:13:39.620 Yeah.

00:13:39.840 And pain is your thing that, you know, you go, I should have that checked.

00:13:44.140 And.

00:13:44.860 It's your alert system.

00:13:45.640 It's your alert system.

00:13:46.580 And when your alert system is gone.

00:13:48.400 Well, all the.

00:13:49.180 It's like, it's like the car alarm that goes off every single morning out in front of your

00:13:52.480 house.

00:13:52.900 You just don't even check anymore.

00:13:54.360 And that's why Pat could die within the hour.

00:13:58.760 And you should.

00:14:00.000 Are you out of pain, Pat?

00:14:01.100 No.

00:14:01.520 He's not.

00:14:02.220 No way.

00:14:02.620 So he has no alert system.

00:14:04.700 He could.

00:14:05.560 He could.

00:14:06.000 He probably is dying.

00:14:07.980 Well, he is.

00:14:08.900 He's dying slowly right now.

00:14:11.040 We don't know.

00:14:11.380 Slowly or quickly.

00:14:12.320 It could be either.

00:14:13.640 Could be either.

00:14:14.520 Kexy.

00:14:16.120 Kexy.

00:14:16.900 Kexy.com.

00:14:17.560 Okay.

00:14:17.700 This is too much even for me now.

00:14:19.060 Get your cookies.

00:14:19.860 Too much even for me.

00:14:20.900 It's not for Pat.

00:14:21.680 Not for Jackie.

00:14:22.820 No. 1.00

00:14:23.060 Selfish bastard. 1.00

00:14:24.260 You want to leave her penniless? 1.00

00:14:26.480 No, I do not.

00:14:27.440 Gosh.

00:14:27.920 No.

00:14:28.140 I'm just trying to help.

00:14:29.360 You're right.

00:14:29.680 So forgive my ignorance here, but so legitimately you can't have any of these things ever again?

00:14:35.340 No.

00:14:35.600 Well, I mean, I'm told by a dietician that that shouldn't be the way I look at things.

00:14:42.180 And that's like Joe Biden saying, Joe Biden says, we shouldn't look at inflation as the

00:14:52.140 price of eggs going up.

00:14:53.440 Right.

00:14:54.080 Look at it a different way.

00:14:56.020 They're eggs.

00:14:56.780 You got them.

00:14:57.760 Right.

00:14:58.000 Money grows on trees.

00:14:59.760 There you go.

00:15:00.660 I mean, could I have a half a cup of ice cream every month or something?

00:15:05.960 Probably.

00:15:06.640 Right.

00:15:06.960 Right. 1.00

00:15:07.200 You will die. 0.99

00:15:08.800 But could I eat one of my cookies? 0.98

00:15:10.920 Probably not.

00:15:11.600 Why?

00:15:12.300 Is there sugar?

00:15:12.780 Maybe a bite or two.

00:15:13.440 Are there sugar in Kexi cookies?

00:15:16.600 Maybe a tad.

00:15:17.700 A tad.

00:15:17.940 Yeah.

00:15:18.240 Okay.

00:15:18.680 Maybe a tad.

00:15:19.440 So Kexi, the reason why Pat is in so much trouble is they had to buy the entire island 0.67

00:15:26.100 of Hawaii for the sugar game.

00:15:29.420 Wow.

00:15:30.480 Yeah.

00:15:31.020 Aggressive investment.

00:15:32.220 Yeah.

00:15:32.480 Yeah.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:33.160 Yeah.

00:15:33.380 So this is just like total, is the solution to this like medication?

00:15:38.360 Is it life change?

00:15:39.460 Is it all of it together?

00:15:40.980 Insulin.

00:15:41.620 It's insulin.

00:15:42.520 I mean, what part of diabetes don't you understand?

00:15:44.820 I don't have it.

00:15:45.300 I probably will soon, so I'm trying to learn.

00:15:50.800 All right.

00:15:51.560 All right.

00:15:51.900 Pat, welcome back.

00:15:52.960 Thank you.

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00:16:20.180 Thank you.

00:16:20.480 Matthew Lohmeyer is on with us.

00:16:33.620 Hello, Matthew.

00:16:34.880 How are you?

00:16:36.220 Glenn, I'm well.

00:16:37.100 Thank you.

00:16:37.660 It's good to talk to you.

00:16:39.080 Now, I should say thank you, first of all, for your courage.

00:16:42.840 You had a nice position as a lieutenant colonel at Space Force, and you came out and started

00:16:52.360 talking about the dangers of CRT and what was being done by the Pentagon, and they didn't

00:16:58.140 like that very much.

00:17:00.980 Yeah.

00:17:01.160 Well, thanks for first bringing up this.

00:17:04.780 I did have a good position, so to speak, and I was in command of our nation's space-based

00:17:10.480 missile warning enterprise, which implies senior military leaders at some point did, in fact,

00:17:17.020 trust me to be a good leader and to make proper strategic assessments and whatnot.

00:17:23.580 But the fact is, I didn't just write an expose or a book that I then made public without first

00:17:29.600 bringing up some of my concerns with senior military leaders themselves.

00:17:33.980 The entire chain of command of the Space Force had been aware of what should properly be

00:17:42.220 characterized as overt left-wing political talking points, anti-American sentiment in

00:17:48.640 the military workplace.

00:17:50.000 And I was bringing that to their attention, which included Marxist-rooted critical race

00:17:55.100 theory in the form of what we call diversity and inclusion trainings.

00:17:58.140 But they agreed with me that it was a big problem, but the fact is, who are you going

00:18:03.700 to hold accountable for it?

00:18:05.560 Are we in the proper climate that we've created for ourselves to hold some of these activists

00:18:10.440 accountable?

00:18:11.700 And apparently, the answer was no, we weren't in a position to try and hold them accountable.

00:18:16.060 We were afraid.

00:18:17.640 And so that led to a formal written inspector general's complaint, which was dismissed right

00:18:24.100 during the election season, in fact.

00:18:26.300 And so I wrote a book about it.

00:18:28.660 I was in a unique position in uniform to see what was happening within the ranks of the

00:18:34.400 military and how divisive that ideology can be.

00:18:38.600 I've often said what Marxism does to someone in China, it will do to an American.

00:18:45.020 And CRT, as we're increasingly aware, destroys everything it touches.

00:18:50.360 So it was important to talk up about that.

00:18:52.060 But we've got, as you've mentioned, bigger concerns on the horizon and happening in the

00:18:56.620 country at the moment.

00:18:57.620 Well, before we leave this subject, today I found out that the recruiting for the military

00:19:04.280 is down 25% off goal.

00:19:08.340 And I saw what the military said.

00:19:10.800 They said, that's because the youth, you know, they just, they don't see the military as relevant.

00:19:17.420 Really, how come all of a sudden, after Afghanistan, and after the CRT nonsense, your recruiting 0.85

00:19:25.780 went down through the tubes?

00:19:28.040 That didn't play a role?

00:19:30.640 Well, yeah.

00:19:31.440 You know, one of the things, it's easy to tell at a glance at any given moment how our

00:19:37.420 recruiting efforts are doing.

00:19:38.920 But what it's not easy to assess real time at a glance is how our retention efforts are

00:19:45.600 doing, and that's often left out of the headlines.

00:19:47.660 But, you know, I talk to service members all the time.

00:19:51.000 They reach out, both thanking me for my book and also seeking for help, quite frankly, on

00:19:54.700 how to navigate the current politicized workplace in the uniformed services.

00:20:00.200 But they are telling me, and this is anecdotal, I get it, but it's real world on the ground

00:20:05.360 intel, that they and a bunch of people that are currently in uniform, their active duty service

00:20:11.700 commitments aren't up yet.

00:20:13.460 But when they are up, they're going to be getting out of the service.

00:20:16.960 And so not only do we face recruitment issues, we're going to have a really difficult time

00:20:21.280 this year and in the next year retaining folks who have served for a very long time.

00:20:26.800 It's a really tough position to be in.

00:20:28.220 It's not just COVID's fault.

00:20:30.040 And it's not, you know, pick the issues that senior defense officials want to point a finger

00:20:35.040 at and shame and blame.

00:20:37.460 It's the very policies that are being pushed down the pipe right now and hoisted upon our

00:20:43.640 service members that's hurting morale and disincentivizing them for continued service.

00:20:49.680 We're talking to former Space Force Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer.

00:20:54.460 You can find him at MatthewLohmeyer.com or follow him on Twitter at Matthew Lohmeyer.

00:21:00.260 I want to switch now to the balloons that we've had.

00:21:06.080 I mean, you, as you know, you were in in charge of our space missile defense.

00:21:12.760 Do you think we're shooting aliens out of the sky in balloons?

00:21:18.800 You know, I'm open to a lot of ideas.

00:21:23.480 The timing of all of this is really interesting as well.

00:21:28.340 One of the things that's become quite clear over the last 10 days is that senior military

00:21:35.080 leaders, Jim Mattis included, apparently, and White House officials have known about

00:21:40.440 Chinese spy balloons for years, violating the sovereignty of countries around the globe

00:21:45.160 and potentially including our own and apparently not informing the sitting commander in chief

00:21:50.160 at the time.

00:21:51.080 Why we've decided to start shooting them out of the sky over North America now is in fact

00:21:57.620 curious.

00:21:58.240 The timing is curious and perhaps the timing matters.

00:22:01.840 It almost always does.

00:22:03.040 And perhaps it's really convenient.

00:22:05.080 This sounds like conspiracy theory, but in fact, it's not.

00:22:07.840 In fact, we've been trained for the past couple of years to ask important questions.

00:22:11.980 Perhaps it's really convenient to have those shoot downs in the headlines right now instead

00:22:16.900 of any number of other things that have been in the headlines.

00:22:19.300 I mean, there's been a classified document scandal at Joe Biden's residence.

00:22:23.680 There are more revelations about Hunter Biden's corruption with his dad while he was the vice

00:22:29.120 president and in dealings with Middle Eastern countries and in China than at any other time

00:22:34.080 that we've known of before now.

00:22:36.180 And we've got information that's coming to light about Jim Biden's dealings with Assad.

00:22:40.080 We've got a well-stitched reporting that came from Seymour Hirsch.

00:22:45.500 Do you believe that?

00:22:47.200 Well, I think it's entirely plausible.

00:22:49.580 And that's important.

00:22:51.520 I mean, the guy's done phenomenal reporting for decades.

00:22:54.740 And some of the details that he shares in an interview that I just watched yesterday are

00:22:58.340 entirely plausible.

00:22:59.700 Right.

00:22:59.740 And in fact, you know, you take a look back earlier last year and Joe Biden, because he

00:23:05.540 can't help himself, is making statements about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline ceasing to exist

00:23:10.720 if Russia, in fact, invades Ukraine.

00:23:14.480 They do.

00:23:14.900 And then the Nord Stream 2 pipeline ceases to exist, at least temporarily.

00:23:18.320 And then, of course, there was the imminent release of the Jeffrey Epstein visitor logs and

00:23:24.080 lists.

00:23:24.440 And so all of that is swirling about in headlines.

00:23:27.600 And then the shoot downs come.

00:23:28.820 Now, I think that the first balloon that we shot down was, in fact, a spy balloon from

00:23:35.320 China.

00:23:36.120 They essentially admitted as much.

00:23:38.600 What did they get that they couldn't get on a satellite?

00:23:41.760 Well, altitude matters.

00:23:43.760 So every country who has a spacefaring capability is engaged in spying on our adversaries.

00:23:52.320 But you do that outside of the sovereign airspace of nations and in space.

00:23:57.200 And we do that from low Earth orbit with optical capabilities.

00:24:01.480 And we do it from higher up as well.

00:24:03.280 But the closer you are to the Earth, the fact of the matter is, the better images you're

00:24:07.520 able to take.

00:24:08.300 But what's most concerning is not just more images.

00:24:11.160 I'm guessing there's enough.

00:24:12.980 I shouldn't say I'm guessing.

00:24:14.440 There are enough images the world over.

00:24:16.180 It's like, what good does one more image do?

00:24:20.460 The fact is, depending on what capabilities were aboard that first balloon that we shot

00:24:26.020 down, I think it was on the 4th of February, there's any number of other signals, transmissions,

00:24:34.340 code that could have been either interfered with, tampered with, or received or retrieved

00:24:39.580 by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:24:41.140 And so is this a first-time event?

00:24:44.820 Likely not, apparently.

00:24:46.900 But it's totally bogus that we were told, as the American people, that the concern was

00:24:53.140 for the American people on the ground.

00:24:55.240 And that's why we weren't shooting it out of the sky and we're letting it traverse the

00:24:59.480 entirety of the country.

00:25:00.480 I mean, any American citizen who's been up in a commercial airliner can take a look around

00:25:05.900 and tell you that most places over the continental United States don't have people living there.

00:25:11.300 I mean, it's just desolate.

00:25:12.700 And the moment that thing left overhead any major U.S. city, it should have been brought

00:25:18.360 down.

00:25:18.760 And it didn't need to be obliterated.

00:25:20.220 I mean, we could have just brought it to its knees and brought it down and kept it intact

00:25:23.660 and tried to be transparent with the American people about what it is that we think we saw.

00:25:29.440 And yet we didn't do any of that.

00:25:31.240 We shoot it down over water, send it to FBI headquarters of all things, and then complain

00:25:36.340 that we can't quite recover all of the capabilities that were aboard the balloon.

00:25:42.240 I mean, here's something that's important as a principle for your listener to keep in

00:25:46.440 mind.

00:25:47.340 In relative peacetime, it's difficult enough, as we've seen, to stitch together an accurate

00:25:54.580 view of the things that are taking place in global politics.

00:25:58.340 But when you're talking relative wartime, increased and heightened conflict, it's going

00:26:03.060 to be nearly impossible because deception is an important part of grand strategy.

00:26:08.760 I unfortunately think we're getting deception from our own government to our own people.

00:26:15.040 And, you know, one of those things is that China is the new model, which I believe they

00:26:20.360 believe, but that, you know, that they're not hostile to us.

00:26:27.680 There is plenty of evidence that they are fighting a war that we refuse to involve ourselves or even

00:26:37.080 recognize.

00:26:38.460 And we're going to pay a high price for this.

00:26:41.780 Do you think that's right or wrong?

00:26:44.120 I think it is right.

00:26:45.020 In fact, you almost, okay, if I was Xi Jinping, I would try to avoid a shooting match with the

00:26:53.400 United States at all costs.

00:26:55.080 In fact, I didn't see the show that you had mentioned that you've done last night, but

00:27:00.280 you reference a 1999 manual.

00:27:03.040 I presume you're talking about the work called Unrestricted Warfare.

00:27:06.060 Yes, exactly right.

00:27:07.260 Nothing in that book, the overarching premise of the strategy to defeat the West and the

00:27:15.140 United States in particular is that nothing is off the table as far as how you pursue

00:27:20.080 the destruction of the United States.

00:27:21.980 It doesn't have to be direct, kinetic, conventional warfare and tactics.

00:27:28.800 And so, again, the American people have to ask themselves the question, must military

00:27:33.880 force be used to destroy a country?

00:27:36.060 And the answer is, of course not.

00:27:39.060 And the Chinese are aware of that.

00:27:40.780 And so, to your point, Xi Jinping, more than frankly, many American people are willing to

00:27:46.120 acknowledge at this point, is well aware of the fact that we're in a kind of cold civil

00:27:50.000 war here at home ourselves.

00:27:52.020 And so that combination in combination with the fact that we are indeed in a new cold war

00:27:58.620 with China and the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping is a terrible combination.

00:28:04.160 And if I was him, I'd sit and watch our own disintegration from within our own borders.

00:28:10.980 I'd watch bad policy decisions being made by people like Joe Biden and the Biden administration.

00:28:16.140 And I'd cheer that on and I'd influence it in every possible way that did not involve

00:28:21.140 direct kinetic operations so that I could emerge the great, the benevolent superpower who

00:28:27.480 didn't need to shed a drop of blood to rise to preeminence in the world stage.

00:28:33.120 Not only does that allow him to keep some semblance of a reputation intact, it allows him to make claims about the superiority of their worldview and ideology, the communist, the Marxist, the Maoist worldview.

00:28:47.140 And it was superior to the capitalist worldview.

00:28:50.020 And look, they crumbled under the weight of their own foolishness while we emerged the global hegemon, not just a regional hegemon, but the global hegemon.

00:28:58.500 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:29:06.260 I'm going to give you some shocking news.

00:29:07.980 There is a college in Kentucky that has a weekly chapel service.

00:29:15.240 I know, right?

00:29:16.980 I know that's weird enough, but it goes further than that.

00:29:21.360 On February 8th, there was a morning service and there was an altar call.

00:29:27.340 Just come on down if you want to get prayed on.

00:29:29.380 And there was just a couple dozen students there that they were gathering.

00:29:33.420 It's been going on now since February 8th, 24 hours a day, and people are coming from all over the country.

00:29:43.760 It's miraculous.

00:29:46.800 Allison Perfader is with us now.

00:29:48.640 She is with the, she's actually the student body president at Ashbury University.

00:29:54.340 Hello, Allison. 0.75

00:29:55.660 How are you?

00:29:57.060 Good morning.

00:29:57.820 How are you?

00:29:58.220 I'm good.

00:29:58.740 Thank you for having me on.

00:29:59.820 I think this is, I mean, this almost brings tears to my eyes.

00:30:05.260 This is such a miraculous thing that's going on.

00:30:09.020 Tell us about it.

00:30:10.940 Yeah.

00:30:11.480 I mean, it's like you said, it's miraculous.

00:30:13.320 I mean, I don't, I don't know if you've ever heard of Wilmore, Kentucky, but we have one street and we call it downtown.

00:30:18.640 And so when the whole world is watching us, you have to wonder what is God doing here?

00:30:22.820 Because there's nothing about here that people want to see.

00:30:25.300 You know what I mean?

00:30:25.880 Yeah.

00:30:26.160 So, so this started on February 8th.

00:30:30.100 It wasn't planned, right?

00:30:31.900 It just.

00:30:32.520 Correct.

00:30:33.080 Just started.

00:30:34.280 And then how, how did other people, I mean, that's a small town.

00:30:38.920 How, how did it go on for even just the first 24 hours?

00:30:43.720 What was happening?

00:30:44.780 Yeah.

00:30:46.660 It's like you said, February 8th, we had our, our regular chapel and then a couple of students didn't leave.

00:30:54.940 And then a couple of students heard that a couple of students didn't leave.

00:30:57.580 And then President Brown came over and I came over to see what was happening.

00:31:01.520 And, and, and I, I, I can just say that Holy Spirit was, was so present there.

00:31:07.460 You can almost see it.

00:31:08.360 And we were just going, wow, what is going on?

00:31:10.700 And then our surrounding communities heard about it.

00:31:13.180 And obviously social media played a huge role in, in spreading the word.

00:31:17.420 And we've had friends now from Brazil and Indonesia.

00:31:21.960 And I mean, everybody, everybody wants in on it.

00:31:25.640 I had to tell you, I want to take my family.

00:31:28.120 Um, this is, this is, um, this is something that I, I really respect.

00:31:35.640 Um, the fact that you didn't push this out on social media, you, you are, you're not hyping this.

00:31:43.340 You're kind of a reluctant group to make a big deal out of this because you say it's a, it's really a sacred thing that just is happening organically.

00:31:52.840 And you don't want it to be a circus, right?

00:31:57.900 Yeah.

00:31:58.460 And especially because I think it's something that Asbury and a lot of universities and honestly, just my generation struggles with is, is pride.

00:32:05.440 And what we've seen here is just such a radical humility that students are standing up and, and confessing things that have been done to them or that they've done.

00:32:13.520 And, and they're opening their hearts up to not only the presence of God, but to each other.

00:32:18.480 And that is a very intimate thing.

00:32:20.540 And so there are some mixed feelings about it becoming global and it's obviously amazing and it's great.

00:32:25.940 But, but there is that, that core of honesty that, that we're still holding on to.

00:32:31.240 So, well, I bet you that there were a lot of people at the Sermon on the Mount that thought, I don't, this shouldn't go global.

00:32:40.900 In fact, I know it shouldn't go to the Gentiles. 1.00

00:32:43.980 Um, and, uh, I just, I just think this is remarkable.

00:32:49.300 So there's no speakers or anything going on, right?

00:32:52.840 It's just people gathering to pray.

00:32:54.400 Yeah, it's, um, there's, there's been a couple of people just kind of facilitating it, you know, keeping everyone safe and also guiding the conversation, making sure that we're setting up healthy, healthy boundaries for what we're talking about, um, with big groups of people.

00:33:08.480 But no, beyond that, I mean, like it's unfathomable.

00:33:12.540 Imagine students just bringing mattresses into an old wooden auditorium and spending the night there.

00:33:18.960 It's crazy.

00:33:19.700 And it's, it's truly, it's supernatural.

00:33:23.260 This, I mean, think of the opposite of Occupy Wall Street.

00:33:29.920 Remember how horrible that the conditions became and everything else.

00:33:34.680 And look what's happening here.

00:33:36.820 Um, do you, when you say the thing that we want to save space for the things we're talking about, what does that mean exactly?

00:33:43.880 Yeah, I mean, I, I think that there's just an intimacy, um, when a body of believers is together because, you know, your self-consciousness kind of falls off and your pride kind of falls off and, and that should be protected.

00:33:57.340 Um, and just, just, just, I mean, we've had women here who, who have gotten help leaving an abusive relationship, for example.

00:34:06.100 And that's something that, you know, isn't to be displayed or promoted.

00:34:11.000 Yeah.

00:34:11.200 Um, that's just genuine, life is hard and God is good kind of a, kind of a situation.

00:34:17.360 And, um, yeah, yeah.

00:34:20.620 So do you think that, I mean, I know you're still in it, so it's hard to process, but do you think this is, this is, uh, a thing where the spirit is pouring out for a renewal of faith, calling out for a renewal of faith?

00:34:39.580 Is it a thing because there's so much darkness in the world?

00:34:44.200 What, what do you, or is it just a personal thing and everyone approaches it differently?

00:34:49.080 I think it's all of those things.

00:34:52.180 And I think, uh, you know, I remember, um, my freshman year was when COVID hit and our community was totally divided.

00:35:00.460 Um, and I remember we would just say like, oh, how could this get any worse?

00:35:05.340 And now there are thousands of people here and we're just all, um, together and we're, it's just the opposite.

00:35:13.140 And so now we're saying like, oh, how could this get any better?

00:35:15.400 And I think all those things you said are true.

00:35:17.660 I think, um, that we're hungry and desperate for community and I, and for God.

00:35:22.900 Um, and I think that that is different for everyone.

00:35:26.780 I mean, there's people coming for physical healing, for, um, freedom from anxiety and depression.

00:35:32.340 And, um, the Holy Spirit is for everyone.

00:35:36.440 Um, and he's very busy.

00:35:37.840 I'll, I'll say that.

00:35:39.000 He's very busy.

00:35:41.200 Yeah.

00:35:41.960 Yeah.

00:35:42.520 Especially now, especially now.

00:35:44.320 Yeah.

00:35:44.460 Um, well, thank you so much.

00:35:46.960 And, uh, and please thank the people in your town for creating the atmosphere where the spirit could dwell.

00:35:55.940 Um, and especially your university.

00:35:58.760 Um, I've not heard of your university before, but I am going to look into your university now.

00:36:04.840 I, I just, it takes, um, it takes a very different place for this to happen in today's world.

00:36:14.560 Yeah.

00:36:15.060 On the one hand it does.

00:36:16.240 And then on the other hand, it just takes someone who, who asks God for it.

00:36:20.140 You know what I mean?

00:36:20.740 Yeah.

00:36:21.100 I think, thank you for saying that.

00:36:22.540 And I will pass that along, especially to, to president Brown.

00:36:25.260 And, um, I just appreciate the chance to talk about it.

00:36:27.820 Thanks, Alison.

00:36:29.300 Appreciate it.

00:36:29.900 That is, uh, from the university called Asbury university.

00:36:35.380 She's the student body president, Alison Perfader about something remarkable that is happening in Kentucky today.

00:36:45.360 To me, this story gives me more hope than any anti ESG story or anything else that I am passionate about.

00:36:57.120 This story is truly to me, the biggest story of the week and may end up being one of the biggest stories of this time period.

00:37:07.100 This is a really good thing.

00:37:10.700 Pray for them and, uh, just join them in prayer.

00:37:15.360 Gather, even if you're not anywhere around there, uh, join them in prayer.

00:37:20.740 You can find out more at asbury.edu.

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