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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. It's another coronavirus day. It's kind of hard not to talk about it,

00:00:05.560 but there was some really good news towards the end of the podcast we're going to get to in a

00:00:07.940 second. Pat Gray is on talking about how much we're looking forward here of spending and what

00:00:13.680 is at risk with our economy. The word quadrillion makes an appearance here on the podcast for the

00:00:19.600 first time. Matt Walsh has a new book. It's called Church of Cowards. He talks about what's going on

00:00:23.840 with the coronavirus as well as what's going on with our churches and what's going on with

00:00:28.920 the idea of having a spine in your faith. Is that something that's kind of a relic of the past?

00:00:35.040 And in an incredible sequence of events on the show today, we have a guest on in our third hour

00:00:42.220 who talks about a potential cure for coronavirus in a very confident way. And amazingly, he's pleading

00:00:49.380 for the president to recognize what's going on and clear the way for this drug to come out.

00:00:55.140 And as soon as he goes off the air, the president starts a press conference and actually says just

00:01:01.700 that, that this drug is getting a clear path because of the potential to really curb the virus.

00:01:08.620 So there's some real hope towards the end of the show. You can get all the details on it

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00:01:35.120 All right, so I got some good news. I got some really good news. According to scientists now

00:01:39.500 out of London, some really good. How are things going in your house right now? Because we haven't

00:01:44.900 had a meltdown. Uh-uh. No. The kids haven't said, I can't do this. Oh, yeah, really?

00:01:51.880 It's been four days. Wait to see what you can actually do. Anyway, we're trying to flatten the

00:02:00.480 curve. That's what everybody's trying to do. We're imposing social distancing to slow the spread of

00:02:07.280 the virus so the number of people sick doesn't cause the health care system to collapse, as it's

00:02:12.540 threatening to do in Italy and elsewhere right now. That means the pandemic needs to last at a low

00:02:19.480 level until either enough people have had COVID-19 to leave most immune, assuming that our immune system

00:02:27.080 actually will leave a marker in us to say, oh, I recognize that. I can fight that. Last night,

00:02:34.440 I had an expert on said that she's 99% sure that this is going to happen, that we are going to have

00:02:41.820 those markers in us. But we don't know yet. We don't know. This is going to last until we either

00:02:48.980 get those markers in us or until there's a vaccine. So how long will that take? How draconian are things

00:02:59.300 going to have to get? All right. We've been told that it'll be just a couple of weeks. We're just

00:03:06.420 going to do this for a couple of weeks. And I've been telling you, no, that's not it. We're not

00:03:10.960 going to be doing this for a couple of weeks. We're going to be doing this for a long time.

00:03:16.040 Plan on eight weeks is what I said. Well, scientists in London have just come out with some new numbers.

00:03:25.920 According to a report yesterday, as long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can keep

00:03:32.380 reoccurring without stringing controls to contain them. In the report yesterday, researchers at the

00:03:39.380 Imperial College of London proposed a way of doing this. Impose more extreme social distancing measures

00:03:48.360 every time the admissions to intensive health care units start to spike, then relax them when they

00:03:55.700 start to fall. Every time they rise above a threshold, let's just say, for example, a hundred per

00:04:02.300 week, the country would have to close all schools and most universities and adopt social distancing.

00:04:09.320 When they drop below 50, those measures can be lifted. But people with symptoms or whose family

00:04:14.840 members have symptoms would still be confined at home. Now, social distancing, something that we had

00:04:22.320 never heard, but we're used to now all of these new words and phrases just being thrown at us.

00:04:27.440 What is social distancing? Researchers define it as all households reduce contact outside of the

00:04:35.340 household, school or workplace by at least 75 percent. Now, that doesn't mean that you don't go out with

00:04:42.200 your friends once a week instead of four times. Really? Is that what you got, Stu? Are you getting that from

00:04:48.380 social distancing that, ah, you know, but Fridays are different?

00:04:51.620 No, apparently not. That's not allowed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It means everyone does everything they

00:04:59.040 can to minimize social contact. And overall, the number of contacts fall by 75 percent. Under this

00:05:05.480 model, the researchers conclude social distancing and school closures would need to be in force

00:05:10.780 some two thirds of the time. Roughly two months on one month off until a vaccine is available. They say

00:05:24.520 that will take at least 18 months. Now, I don't know about you, but my kids are already starting to

00:05:36.480 social distance themselves from me. Uh, and, uh, uh, I can't imagine being locked in the house for 18

00:05:48.260 months. I don't think, I don't think that's something that we will accept, frankly. I mean,

00:05:56.540 that is this type of thing that we will just, we'll just say, no, we will just read the rest of this.

00:06:03.220 Yes, I know. I know. I've read the rest of this happy missive. Yeah. So surely there has to be some

00:06:10.480 other options. Why not just build a whole buttload of ICUs? Well, it doesn't work. The researchers

00:06:18.160 model that didn't solve the problem without social distancing of the whole population. They found even

00:06:23.620 the best mitigation strategy, which means isolation or quarantine of the sick, the old, and those who 0.89

00:06:28.420 have been exposed plus school closures would still lead to a surge of critically ill people

00:06:34.740 eight times bigger than the U S or UK system can cope with. So even if you set factories out to

00:06:43.660 just turn out ventilators and beds and ICU farms, you still need more nurses and doctors to take care 1.00

00:06:50.620 of everybody. And we just don't have that in all scenarios without widespread social distancing,

00:06:56.960 the number of COVID cases overwhelms the healthcare system. Okay. All right. How about just

00:07:03.820 restrictions for one batch of five months? Nope, not good. Once measures are lifted, the pandemic

00:07:10.420 breaks out all over again. This time it's in winter, the worst time for the healthcare system. Now

00:07:16.020 I'm looking at this, isn't this a stew exactly what, uh, China is doing right now. Isn't China in the 0.83

00:07:28.980 midst of releasing the herds back out into the wilderness? Yeah. So we're going to see whether this

00:07:34.540 works or not because China is basically experimenting with it right now as we speak. And you know, the big

00:07:40.500 news yesterday was supposedly again, if you believe China's numbers and the, what they're telling us

00:07:46.760 supposedly, don't even use the word you racist. Don't even use the word China on this program,

00:07:51.680 but the numbers are coming from China. Oh my gosh. They're coming from all right. Anyway, 1.00

00:07:58.360 what did they find? What they found was zero cases for the first time since this started of community

00:08:03.760 spread. So that means they did have 34 new cases, but all 34 were people traveling into China from

00:08:11.980 other areas, um, which might be another thing they may want to consider stopping. And also why would

00:08:16.700 you go to China at this point? Uh, this is not a good, I know it's like, oh man, the savings,

00:08:22.380 the savings of seeing the great wall of China and maybe I'm me and the family could be buried

00:08:27.900 inside the wall. It'd be great. Okay. So this, what I don't understand is why we're being told.

00:08:37.160 And I, you know, and I, uh, I asked the doctor on our special last night and I don't feel like I got

00:08:45.340 a great answer. Um, why is it that China is releasing people and they're not experiencing this? Why is it

00:08:55.420 that China, um, stop this dead in its tracks with a lot more people that already had it? Ours are all

00:09:03.420 just projections. You know, let's do looking at this. I'll bet you the people who are doing the

00:09:07.740 modeling on this thing are the same people who are telling us about global warming. Um, but, uh,

00:09:14.720 yeah. Um, why is it when we have an actual country where we had thousands and thousands and thousands

00:09:21.300 of people infected? Why didn't we have a hundred thousand deaths in China, but we're supposed to 0.97

00:09:27.220 have them here. It doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. Especially when you think of the, the Chinese 1.00

00:09:32.940 lifestyle, right? Is giant, massive cities where people are packed into very tight areas,

00:09:41.520 working very closely. And nobody blinks when you say, I don't know, uh, yeah, throw that bat in that

00:09:47.540 soup. Nobody blinks. Yeah. It's not, it's, it's not, it's not a healthy lifestyle in many ways.

00:09:55.920 Yeah. Especially for this type of thing, how we, for this type of thing, I mean, it's, it's a real,

00:10:00.520 there's a reason why we've had, you know, I was saying yesterday, like we can't, I really do think

00:10:04.820 it's inappropriate to call it the Chinese virus because they're going to release another virus in

00:10:09.160 like a year and we're going to have, and we're going to have to come up with a whole new name for it.

00:10:12.040 Uh, so like it's just, you know, it's inefficient. Do you know what MERS is? Yeah. Middle East 1.00

00:10:19.860 respiratory syndrome, which I'm sorry. It's what Middle East respiratory syndrome. Yes. Middle 0.95

00:10:25.720 East respiratory system. Wow. Uh, do you know what the West Nile virus is? Yes, I do. I've,

00:10:32.520 they come. Yeah. Spanish flu. It's a virus. Yeah. Spanish flu. I mean, uh, this is what we call

00:10:38.780 things. I used to live two towns away from, uh, from old Lyme, Connecticut, uh, Lyme disease,

00:10:43.800 Lyme, Connecticut. That's where it's from. I mean, this is so unbelievably rich. I'll get

00:10:50.420 into this in a minute. Let me just finish this stupid thing. Uh, all right. So this is going 1.00

00:10:55.200 to have a huge impact on, uh, people coming together, restaurants, cafes, bars, nightclubs,

00:11:01.900 gyms, hotels, favors, uh, theaters, uh, movie, uh, cinemas, uh, art gallery, shopping malls,

00:11:07.900 craft fairs, museums, musicians, other performers, sporting venues, sports teams,

00:11:12.360 conference, uh, conference venues, uh, cruise lines, airlines, public transportation, private

00:11:18.020 schools, public schools, daycare centers. I mean, are you kidding me? This is the entire

00:11:24.140 thing. Now they say there'll be some adaption. Of course, gyms could start selling home equipment.

00:11:29.680 Oh, and online training sessions. Oh, okay. All right. It's now being called the shut-in

00:11:36.000 economy, shut-in economy. It sounds sustainable to me. Um, now they're saying that we're going

00:11:45.060 to have a better healthcare system at the other end of this. Oh, are we, or are we going to have

00:11:50.160 a nationalized healthcare system? They say maybe movie theaters will take out half of their seats.

00:11:57.800 Meetings will be held in larger rooms with spaced out chairs. Gyms will require you to book workouts

00:12:04.160 ahead of time so they don't get too crowded. But here's the good news. Governments all around the

00:12:10.940 world, including Israel, have decided to use cell phone location data. See if this matches what you've

00:12:17.720 been saying is coming, Stu. Uh, it'll match location data with its intelligence services that they use to

00:12:25.040 track terrorists to trace people who've been in touch with known carriers of the virus. Singapore does 0.66

00:12:31.000 exhaustive contact tracing and publishes detailed data on each known case, all but identifying people

00:12:38.180 by name, uh, to get on a flight. Perhaps we're going to have to be signed up to a service that

00:12:44.000 tracks your movement via your phone. The airline wouldn't be able to see where you've gone, but it

00:12:49.900 would be able to get alert. If you have been close to someone that has been infected or in a disease

00:12:55.720 hotspot, there'd be similar requirements for the entrance of large venues, government buildings,

00:13:01.140 public transportation hubs. There'd be temperature scanners everywhere. And your workplace might

00:13:06.480 demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs where nightclubs

00:13:12.320 ask for proof of age in the future. They may ask for proof of immunity, an identity card or some kind

00:13:18.100 of digital verification via your phone showing you've already recovered from or been vaccinated.

00:13:23.440 The intrusive surveillance will be considered a small price to pay for the basic freedom to be

00:13:31.500 with other people. Gig workers. Again, this is this, this is a report from London. Gig workers from

00:13:39.300 drivers to plumbers to freelance yoga instructors will see their jobs becoming more precarious.

00:13:44.840 Immigrants, refugees, the undocumented and ex-convicts will face yet another basic obstacle to gaining a

00:13:50.880 foothold in society. Bull crap, bull crap. That won't happen. Can somebody, this is another thing 1.00

00:13:57.360 I'm going to take on today. Can somebody please tell me why we're releasing prisoners? Why are we

00:14:04.820 releasing prisoners? Isn't that the ultimate in isolation? Isn't that, aren't we just quarantining them?

00:14:13.580 Why are we releasing people onto the streets? Who came up with that idea? I know it's rhetorical. I know

00:14:23.160 who came up with that. Moreover, unless there are strict rules on how someone's risk for disease is

00:14:30.880 assessed, governments or companies could choose any criteria. You're high risk if you earn less than

00:14:37.300 fifty thousand dollars a year. If you're in a family, more than six people or you live in certain

00:14:42.340 parts of the country, for example. Oh, another way to separate us, divide us and keep us in our own 0.92

00:14:49.060 little corrals. This is great. That creates scope for algorithmic bias and hidden discrimination

00:14:56.820 has what happened last year with a U.S. U.S. health insurer. They used an algorithm that turned out to

00:15:04.380 inadvertently favor white people. Oh, my gosh. All right. I'm going to take a break. I want you to go

00:15:13.300 get some duct tape and I want you to wrap it around your head as tight as you possibly can, because I 0.56

00:15:20.640 don't know about you, but my head's about to explode. Now, you're not going to it's not going to stop it

00:15:26.460 from exploding. But when and if you can ever go outside to go to a doctor and say, could you put my

00:15:33.880 head back together? You'll have all of the bone pieces, everything you need to assemble it right

00:15:39.720 there on the inside of that duct tape might take you a while. But I suggest you wrap your head because

00:15:45.280 it's going to be a bumpy ride. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:00.760 Hi, it's Glenn. If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us a favor and rate us on iTunes?

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00:16:11.940 Thanks. Hey, welcome to it. We got a lot of things to do today. I don't know where to start

00:16:19.420 with Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed. I thought we'd have a rolling conversation. And Pat, you can

00:16:25.000 spin the wheel here wherever you want it to stop. We can talk about whose idea was it to just release

00:16:32.540 people from prison? Isn't that kind of quarantine? Isn't that social distancing? Everybody stay in your

00:16:40.560 cell. Since when? Who came up with this? Why are we doing this? Okay, we have that as topic number

00:16:49.520 one. Topic number two is China. How dare you call this a Chinese virus? How dare you call this the

00:16:59.200 Wuhan virus? Really? The Spanish flu didn't even come from Spain?

00:17:06.020 Oh, God. That's just where it was hit hardest. Yeah. Or we could just talk about, come on,

00:17:15.220 come on. We could talk about the GOP. Yeah. That is, they're willing to spend anything. And

00:17:26.060 where are we getting these ideas? Can you tell me what the metrics are here? If you really want

00:17:32.940 to help people, you're just going to send everyone a check for $1,000? What are you talking

00:17:39.360 about? First of all, it's not everybody. It's only people who have an income of, I think it's

00:17:44.660 $100,000 or $150,000 as a couple and $75,000 and below as an individual. Okay. Well, that covers

00:17:56.220 a lot of people. But what are they supposed to do with that? Where are they going with

00:18:02.360 that? And really, we're just, how about just no taxes for anyone? Right. That's the real

00:18:09.000 taxes. That's the less government thing to do. We're doing the bigger government thing.

00:18:13.160 And that's what we keep doing over and over and over. How about this one, Pat? How about

00:18:18.200 how about this one? How about you can't foreclose on anybody's home? Can't do it. Can't do it

00:18:23.940 for the next six months or until the same. I mean, that's not good. No, but it's not just

00:18:30.200 printing money. I do believe that is part of this. I think they're going to do that for

00:18:34.580 two months, right? Isn't it a two month process to start? Yeah. Yeah. But you've got, you've

00:18:39.520 got McConnell, Mitch McConnell, who's a supposed Republican. And this is why we didn't like the

00:18:43.840 guy so much in the first place. We're going to go on and vote as soon as the Senate can get

00:18:48.340 permission to vote on the bill. Came over from the House, sent it down to the president, reassure

00:18:52.320 the people. He added a number of my members think there are considerable shortcomings in the bill.

00:18:56.780 My counsel to them is to gag and vote for it anyway. Oh, that's it's very conservative of you.

00:19:03.780 Thanks. Thanks, Mitch. And then it's the I'm beginning to hate this phrase more than the more

00:19:10.780 than poison. Let's not let perfection be the enemy of good. Shut up. Shut up. I can't take

00:19:22.060 that. I can't take it. Do you know the CDC guidance of how far I have to be away from Pat? What is

00:19:27.380 yelling like that? It's definitely going to be a mile and a half. No, that's yeah, that's why I'm

00:19:33.080 that's why I'm in another studio. There is no distance. You know, try Cleveland. We have eight

00:19:39.120 conservatives left in the Senate. Eight. Marsha Blackburn voted against it. James Inhofe. Ron

00:19:46.720 Johnson. James Lankford. Mike Lee, of course. Thank you, Mike. Rand Paul, Ben Sasse and Tim

00:19:54.580 Scott. Those are the only conservatives, I guess, left in office. Well, because they were they

00:19:58.240 were hammering Rand Paul yesterday because he decided to propose an amendment and the amendment

00:20:04.480 would say, hey, if we're going to give a trillion dollars away, let's come up with a way to pay for

00:20:10.500 that. And maybe we for his idea was, let's get rid of the war in Afghanistan. Let's and he suggested

00:20:18.140 a couple of other things that would pay for it. And they're like, how dare you? Chuck Schumer's like,

00:20:23.660 this is a crisis. And we're this is wasting time. Really? Is the four hours you had to wait to go

00:20:31.000 through the voting process? Really going to be the difference here? You know, I it's not like

00:20:35.240 you're going to guys are going to send out these checks today. Like we all understand this is going

00:20:39.360 to be a little bit of time, but you know, they can't even have a conversation about paying for

00:20:43.440 it. And I know this is a tough one. Like, you know, to your point about the taxes, like I love that.

00:20:48.960 And I think that's a great way. And I love that I would suspend all federal taxes. Yeah. And it's

00:20:53.120 great. Glenn's made a great point in this. Like it's it's an almost an automatic sunset.

00:20:57.080 They can't keep all this power because they're going to want to reverse the tax thing so badly

00:21:02.100 that when it's time to reverse it, maybe they will. Right. But the issue there is, and I think

00:21:07.000 they absolutely will. In fact, they will end it. They will end that if you tie it to no taxes until

00:21:15.180 this national emergency is over, I can guarantee you at the very first opportunity that they have

00:21:23.920 to declare this national emergency over and they'll declare it next Tuesday. They will do it. Really?

00:21:28.420 Yeah. It'll be like a national emergency. You know, I think we might have been overreacting a little bit.

00:21:34.200 There's a giant pile of bodies outside the hospital. You think it's over now?

00:21:37.640 No, no, no. We have less bodies today than we did yesterday. It's over. It's over.

00:21:42.280 The only time your convictions and principles are tested are when there's a crisis, right?

00:21:48.140 There's no, you don't have to. I mean, you, your principles don't have any sort of a trial.

00:21:55.220 It's easy. If there's nothing going on, of course, they're going to be tested in a crisis

00:21:59.720 and that's when it's important to stick to them. Yeah, it's they won't. They won't.

00:22:04.720 It strikes me, too, like with the taxes thing, the one argument I think that has some value

00:22:08.440 against just doing taxes is there are a bunch of people who are going to lose their job

00:22:13.100 and then not have taxes to pay. So they're already paying zero and it's not necessarily

00:22:18.680 going to help those people. But we do have things like unemployment that maybe maybe there

00:22:22.580 maybe the the it's a little bit easier to get. Maybe it's a little bit more generous than it was

00:22:27.640 in the past. But there are things like that that are able to be done where, you know, you can

00:22:33.520 you can bridge that gap for people who really need it. Just throwing a thousand dollars at

00:22:37.560 everybody in America. I mean, you know, it's I understand Andrew Yang made that sound so appealing,

00:22:41.600 appealing. But it's you know, it's it's a very questionable thing. It's the type of thing

00:22:45.780 that may not go away. And obviously, as Mitch McConnell points out, nobody's putting thought

00:22:50.720 into this. They won't even take time to vote on an amendment. They think that's the worst

00:22:54.400 thing in the world. And by the way, Mike Lee was, I think, one of three along with Rand Paul

00:22:58.560 that actually voted for the Rand Paul amendment. And, you know, they don't want to even take time

00:23:05.280 to figure out how to pay for it. They don't they don't want you even if you have a problem

00:23:09.400 with the bill. They just want you to vote for it anyway. Like, that's how we always

00:23:12.820 get a vote. Right. Always time. So I have some additional happy news. Okay. Okay. Do

00:23:23.420 we have any happy music or anything, Sarah? Do we have anything that's like, oh, that'll

00:23:28.100 make me feel better when I say this. Do you have anything? Oh, you know what? Let's get

00:23:33.360 that really moody. Yeah. Okay. I like this. Ladies, I am not a meat puppet. Okay. No. All

00:23:43.580 right. So as we're sitting around here with our cocktails in our hand and just talking about

00:23:50.340 the little people, let me tell you about you remember a Pat, Pat, come here for a second.

00:23:57.520 Come on over here for a second. Do you remember when the people were talking in 2008 about this

00:24:03.340 thing called derivatives? Right. Derivatives. And the little people thought, oh, this is

00:24:12.640 a bad thing. These derivatives. And the banks were, of course, they were too big to fail because

00:24:19.780 they had some money in derivatives and that caused the whole breakdown. Do you remember

00:24:23.840 those times? Right, right, right, right, right. Uh, the banks are now, guess, guess how much

00:24:33.520 the banks are sitting on in derivatives now? Guess. I want you to guess. Um, no, don't

00:24:38.320 get rid of the music. And please, I need that cocktail music. I'm guessing more than back

00:24:43.880 in 2008. Guess a number. Okay. Guess a number. Guess a number. I know it's huge. Do you want

00:24:53.040 me to play my old game? And, uh, no, I don't. No. Well, yeah, go ahead. All right. Play your

00:24:58.440 old game. A $50 trillion. $50 trillion. $50 trillion. $50 trillion. That's now for anybody

00:25:04.220 who doesn't know Pat's old game, Pat's old game is he guesses some crazy number and then

00:25:11.640 he's like, and I'm disappointed if it's a dollar below that. And I spoil the surprise.

00:25:15.160 That's right. Yes. Correct. Correct. Okay. Okay. Well, you're, you, if we were playing the

00:25:21.700 game, uh, closest without going over, you would lose. Wow. Unless we were playing it

00:25:29.380 for individual banks. For instance, JP Morgan Chase, they now have derivatives sitting on

00:25:35.660 $48 trillion. One bank. Citigroup has $47 trillion. And Goldman Sachs, $42 trillion.

00:25:45.160 $42 trillion. Would you like another drink and try to play again? Guess the number of

00:25:52.340 derivatives. Guess it. Guess. Go ahead. So the total number. Total number. 48 quadrillion.

00:26:01.440 And I'll be disappointed if it's a dollar less. There you go. Nice work. 48 quadrillion.

00:26:06.800 I think you got over it that time. Yep, you did. It's only 1.5 quadrillion dollars. That

00:26:14.740 is astounding. That's the first time I've ever heard it in a real story. The quadrillion

00:26:25.120 number. I said to my kids last week, this is going to be an amazing week. By Saturday,

00:26:31.460 you will see and hear things that you've never seen before. That is the same thing I said

00:26:37.240 last night when I found that number, Pat. I've never heard the word quadrillion used in a real

00:26:45.460 sentence. Wow. 1.5 quadrillion dollars of derivatives. Remember, derivatives, the bad thing.

00:26:56.500 Yeah. The thing that the banks were too big to fail. Wow. 1.4 quadrillion. No, 1.5 quadrillion.

00:27:10.820 That's I mean, that's unthinkable. You can't even. I mean, the only time I've actually ever heard it

00:27:16.580 and I've never seen it in a story. You know where I saw the I think it was in the movie.

00:27:21.300 Uh, passenger, the passenger. Did you see passenger with, um, Jennifer Lawrence and Chris? What's his

00:27:30.520 face? Oh, may have. Yeah. Remember that? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Chris Pratt. Okay. So they're,

00:27:36.560 they're traveling and this is a future movie, obviously, and they're traveling to some other

00:27:40.100 distant because the earth is dying or whatever. And she, she's talking about how much money the

00:27:46.260 company is making on, uh, relocating humans to this other planet. And it was, I think it was

00:27:53.980 something like four quadrillion dollars. And that was the only time I'd ever, and it was like a

00:27:58.500 number. Okay. Well, we're not going to get to that probably even in that year. Here we are in 2020

00:28:04.200 and we've gotten to that number in bad debt. Yeah. That's not good. That's not good. Yeah. That's

00:28:11.740 not good. As Stu would say, that's suboptimal. By about $1.5 quadrillion. Yeah. I'll give you

00:28:20.620 the rest of this. The reason why I came across these numbers, I'll give you the rest of it

00:28:24.800 next hour. You don't want to miss it. Uh, you know, might want to prepare because, uh, $1.5 quadrillion

00:28:33.580 in derivatives. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Mr. Matt Walsh podcast host

00:28:47.060 of the Matt Walsh show. Uh, he's as clever as I am with the Glenn, with the Glenn Beck podcast. We

00:28:54.660 didn't work hard on the name of it. We work on the content. He's also the author of a brand new book

00:28:59.640 called the church of cowards. Hello, Matt. How are you? Hey, Glenn. Doing well. How about 0.74

00:29:05.200 you? I'm fantastic. I'm fantastic. Uh, anything, anything on your mind that you want to hit

00:29:14.680 first before we get into the church of cowards, uh, you know, on the Corona virus, like you

00:29:19.020 want to make sure that we're not calling it, uh, you know, the Chinese virus or the Wuhan 0.72

00:29:22.900 virus or anything else. I mean, cause I, I'm sure you agree with that. Yeah, that's the, that's

00:29:28.760 of course the most important issue. I mean, when you're, when you're, uh, in the media

00:29:32.080 and you're at a press conference with the president of the United States during a pandemic

00:29:34.920 and, uh, and we're looking at a possible possibility of a global depression, you know, and you have

00:29:39.880 a chance to ask him a question, obviously you should ask him about why he's doing a big

00:29:43.180 media head to China. I mean, that's, that's obviously the most right. Discussing right now.

00:29:47.200 Right. I mean, we haven't had a depression in, I don't know, at least a couple of years.

00:29:51.740 Well, I think it's been since the 1930s that we've been in a depression and that, I mean,

00:29:57.100 how posh is your life? If that's the thing that you're worried about, how out of touch

00:30:02.880 are you? And then meanwhile, I mean, in all seriousness, there are people, many people

00:30:08.100 in this country who are worried now about how are they going to, you know, feed their families

00:30:12.040 next week? Cause they're not making any money. So I, I don't, I don't think that those people

00:30:15.720 really care what we call this damn thing. I think they're more worried about, you know, 0.98

00:30:19.500 what, what's the end game? Where's this? Okay. We're, we'll, we'll have to stay in our homes.

00:30:24.100 Is this going to be over next week? Uh, is it going to be over in two months?

00:30:26.760 It kind of makes a big difference. I think most people want to know what, what's, what's

00:30:30.820 the out here? What does it look like? What are we, what are we, what's the point? What

00:30:34.620 is this supposed to, how are we going to know that it's okay to go outside again? And I

00:30:37.660 don't think that's articulated or explained. And I think that that's just more anxious.

00:30:42.640 People, people keep saying in Washington, well, we're going to do this until this emergency

00:30:46.560 is over. Can you tell me what the metric is that we're going to use to decide when this

00:30:51.560 emergency is over. Can you give me any, I've been asking for weeks for my, for my own company,

00:30:58.040 I've been asking, I need to see what the tripwires are. How is the government measuring things?

00:31:05.080 So when they know you're going to go from phase one to phase two, no one has tripwires.

00:31:09.960 Now somebody's making the decision, but based on what there was, there's, there's where we

00:31:16.660 are printing trillions of dollars and just giving them away. Does anybody have anything

00:31:24.160 that they're basing this on? Is it anything other than no? Well, he wants to give less.

00:31:29.260 So I want to give more. What is all of this based on? There's no reality. There's no fact.

00:31:34.860 There's nothing. Yeah. It makes it, I mean, the hard thing is that even the scientists and the

00:31:41.920 doctors don't know everything, don't know everything about this virus because obviously

00:31:45.460 it's new. And the rest of us, I know for me, I don't know a damn thing about viruses or pandemics.

00:31:50.780 It's not something I've really thought about up until now. I'm not an expert. So, you know,

00:31:54.880 we're looking for, we need to know who we can trust on this and who we can listen to. And of course,

00:31:58.980 we know we can't live, we can't listen to the media in the disinformation age that we live in. So

00:32:03.840 where do you go? Who do you, who, who's in that? So who has their, Matt, who has their

00:32:09.880 credibility? Cause you, you've written a book, uh, the church of cowards and in the very first

00:32:16.640 chapter, Christians not worth killing. Uh, I mean, that's, that is quite a statement and I think 0.98

00:32:24.100 it's right. I think it's true that they don't have any credibility either. Many of them.

00:32:29.740 Yeah. That's the, that's the thing you hear when I hear this from Christians all the time, 1.00

00:32:34.400 how they're worried about, um, you know, the possibility of some real violent persecution

00:32:39.580 happening in this country, the way that it's happened, uh, as we know, it is happening now

00:32:43.820 in so many other parts of the world. But the point is that it's, it's, there's no reason for it to

00:32:49.060 happen here. Anybody who wants to persecute the church here, there's no reason to go to that level

00:32:53.020 because Christians are just abandoning their faith, uh, on their own, just very, very happy 0.93

00:32:58.780 to do it without much encouragement. And so, um, that's why I say not worth killing. We're sort of, 0.97

00:33:04.340 we're not worth this in this country where we're not worth persecuting. I don't think we've,

00:33:08.280 we've earned that in a, in a sense.

00:33:11.060 Well, I, I think we're kind of like where Germany was, uh, Germany, you know, the church was strong

00:33:17.940 in Germany, but they sold out to the Nazis and replaced the, the pictures of Christ on the

00:33:23.380 mantles, uh, within, I think it was a year of his, uh, of his becoming chancellor. Most of them had

00:33:31.340 already just said, Oh, I give, okay, you're right. And they were, they were holding meetings as a

00:33:37.700 greater German church to get, to talk about it and seriously discuss the getting rid of the old 1.00

00:33:44.900 Testament in the Bible because of all of the Jewishness of it. I mean, there weren't, well, 1.00

00:33:50.920 there wasn't a great prosecutor or persecution of the, of the German churches in world war II.

00:33:57.480 There were, there was a, a persecution of some Christians, but the churches by and large kind

00:34:05.040 of went right along with it. Yeah. I think that's, I think it's a good analogy because I, I, I, that's

00:34:10.340 what you see in our culture as well with, uh, with so many churches that are, you know, it's,

00:34:15.900 it's not about going along with, with a, with a, you know, the dictator figure like Hitler, but it's

00:34:19.860 more about going along with the culture and the culture of death and not wanting to, uh, resist or

00:34:25.900 fight back because number one, I think we've lost our, we've lost that sort of warrior spirit that used

00:34:31.840 to be, has always been historically a part of Christianity from the very beginning. And also we've been told

00:34:36.320 that things like tolerance are these great virtues. And so we can go with the flow and be apathetic

00:34:43.400 and then dress in and be cowardly and dress that up as tolerance. But of course we know that

00:34:49.100 tolerance is not a virtue at all. Tolerance can be fine depending on what you're, but it all depends

00:34:53.200 on what you're tolerating. And even if you're tolerating something good, it's a, it doesn't

00:34:57.280 take a lot. The thing about tolerance is that you can do it from your couch with Cheeto dust all over

00:35:01.100 your, all over your chest. It's really easy to tolerate things. It just requires you to literally

00:35:06.160 do nothing and allow whatever it is that's happening to continue happening. So it's not

00:35:09.720 virtuous. And we know that, that with, as, as Christians, there are so many things that

00:35:13.640 we should not be tolerating to the best of our ability. We should be resisting and fighting back

00:35:17.880 against them. That's what, if you look, they pick up the gospel sometimes and read them. I think people

00:35:21.700 need to actually do that, especially if you're a Christian and you're going to find that Jesus,

00:35:24.940 Jesus Christ, when he was walking around on earth was, was, was confrontational. He was not,

00:35:29.880 he was not a hippie peacenik figure going along to get along. He was confronting constantly and aggressively.

00:35:35.920 Well, I have to, may, may I interrupt you, Mr. Matt Walsh? It's a Joe P reporter from MSNBC. And

00:35:44.060 in your book, you, you describe the hangout Jesus, the idea that Jesus hung out with sinners and 0.81

00:35:51.720 prostitutes. And that's exactly what he did. You know, you're saying he was, he was not a tolerant man,

00:35:56.480 but he was hanging out with them all the time. He was having dinner with them, probably partying with

00:36:01.960 them, uh, you know, just hanging with the common folk and you're this Jesus you're describing.

00:36:09.340 I don't recognize, sir.

00:36:12.400 Yeah, well, I mean, it's easy not to recognize Jesus. If you haven't read the, if you haven't

00:36:15.700 read the accounts of him in the, in the Bible, that's the thing. He was, he was not hanging out.

00:36:23.700 I mean, he hung on the cross for sinners and that's, that's, so that's, that's very true. But 0.96

00:36:27.660 that's the point. It was the exact opposite of hanging out the way that we think of it. It

00:36:31.280 wasn't just, it wasn't just hanging around and, and, uh, and, uh, palling around. This

00:36:35.880 was about leadership and, and, uh, ministering to sinners. And I think those are the words

00:36:41.480 we should be using.

00:36:43.500 So are you seeing a Christian response right now to COVID-19? Are you seeing the churches

00:36:48.940 doing what they're supposed to?

00:36:50.080 Well, I don't know because, uh, you know, the, a lot of the churches, of course, across

00:36:54.780 America, I know my church is shut down as so many churches have, I guess most of them

00:36:58.220 have. And I, I, I'm not going to call that a manifestation of a church of cowards and say 0.59

00:37:06.060 they're being cowards for doing it because, um, you know, I'm not in a position of having

00:37:09.920 to make those choices, thankfully. And I know that so many churches, you know, they, they

00:37:14.420 have a lot of older people. And so you have a responsibility to them and you don't want to put 0.95

00:37:19.020 them in a position where they're going to be harmed. So I understand that, but, but church

00:37:23.040 is really, church is not really four walls church. What happens inside of those far walls

00:37:29.900 four walls is the least important thing. Uh, you know, when it comes to being a Christian,

00:37:36.740 it's what you do outside of those four walls. So the, the building may be closed, but the

00:37:42.100 church isn't closed.

00:37:44.520 Right. That's exactly right. And I think that one of the really important things that the

00:37:47.600 church needs to do now and Christians need to do now is a response. I think people are 1.00

00:37:52.340 having, we already know there's a crisis of faith in this culture as it is. And then you

00:37:56.020 throw something like this into it and people are asking, I get questions like this and I'm

00:37:59.600 not, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm nobody, but I questions like, well, how could God allow this

00:38:03.880 to happen? Why, why would God allow something like this? Uh, where is God in all this? You know,

00:38:08.240 the classic questions that humans have been asking through the ages. And, uh, and it's,

00:38:12.200 it's, it's a question that Christians need to start taking seriously and trying really hard

00:38:15.420 to answer. Um, because that's another thing that I think there, there are people in our

00:38:18.720 culture who are losing their faith and it's not always because they want to go run off

00:38:22.620 and sin and because they're weak. It's, it's really because they're, you know, they haven't

00:38:26.380 been raised in the faith. Maybe they have legitimate questions. They're scared or confused.

00:38:30.620 They just, they need someone to come and take their questions seriously and, uh, address them.

00:38:35.060 Um, and then oftentimes I think we're, we're afraid to do that.

00:38:39.020 You say, um, you know, when is, when are American Christians willing to lay down their

00:38:43.880 smartphones, let alone their lives, uh, for the faith? How do you, uh, I think that the

00:38:51.680 churches are not providing, as you just said, any real answers and really any real

00:38:56.380 direction. Um, it seems like you're telling a bunch of old stories that we've heard a

00:39:02.300 million times, even though we haven't, um, you've heard a million times. I know the Jesus

00:39:06.980 story, uh, and they're not relating it at all to real life at all. And so people, they

00:39:14.660 get more out of their smartphone and they think that church and, and the Bible and everything

00:39:20.580 else has nothing to do with them and their life because the church has failed on that front.

00:39:28.220 Absolutely. And I think, I mean, you, you want to know the, the, the, the thing that's

00:39:32.020 responsible, I think for, for leading, you know, millions, especially of young people

00:39:35.680 away from the faith, it's YouTube. And, and what, what I mean by that is, is, is there

00:39:40.620 are young people, especially to go to college, they find that their faith is attacked. They're

00:39:44.120 being told all these things, presented all of these arguments, presented a lot of information,

00:39:48.080 much of it's false about the Bible and the history of Christianity. And so now they have

00:39:51.760 questions and they, they need to, they need to turn somewhere and, and, and, and ask someone

00:39:56.020 and they try to turn to their pastor and all they get is just silliness and platitude.

00:39:59.760 So they go to YouTube and they just start perusing and trying to find an answer somewhere

00:40:04.160 in there. And, and then they, they get the wrong answers and they get, you know, they

00:40:08.960 stumble on all these other videos and that's how they end up losing their faith because

00:40:12.140 again, it's just, there's not any real moral and, and also intellectual leadership happening

00:40:18.480 in the church in so many cases. And I think you're right that so many people go to church

00:40:23.440 and they find that what it seems like to them, they're getting old stories and they're

00:40:27.300 getting, uh, you know, a little pep talk that has no connection to their actual everyday

00:40:32.020 life and the moral struggles that they face. And if that's the case, then we're just going

00:40:36.840 to continue to lose, uh, Christians in this culture.

00:40:39.580 So what is the, what's, what's your prognosis?

00:40:44.160 Well, I think the, you know, first of all, what we need, as we've been talking about from

00:40:48.040 the church and church leaders is, is a willingness to lead on a, you know, to show moral leadership

00:40:54.580 and to engage with the culture and to speak to people on the level where they are and about

00:40:59.520 the things that they're actually struggling, struggling with. But then also, I think we

00:41:03.420 as Christians need to do, uh, need to analyze ourselves and we need to think, you know, there's

00:41:10.460 a lot of extraordinary claims that we make, a lot of things that we, we claim to believe

00:41:13.940 that are quite, quite startling, honestly. And we have to think, do I, do I actually believe

00:41:18.080 those things? And if I do, well, that reality, um, that belief should infiltrate every aspect

00:41:25.200 of my life. I mean, there should be no part of my life that is immune from this belief.

00:41:30.560 And so then it's just, it's a bit, it's a difficult thing to do. I've tried to do it

00:41:33.420 and I've realized I'm failing in so many ways, but there are so many parts of my life that

00:41:37.280 I've tried to kind of put in the box and say, well, faith has nothing to do with that.

00:41:40.300 That's separate. And it's just, that's not, that's not the case. So I think that's

00:41:43.920 a, that's a test we have to run for ourselves.

00:41:47.440 The subtitle of the book is a wake up call to complacent Christians. I think that's what 1.00

00:41:51.920 coronavirus is as well. I think, uh, we can use this, uh, opportunity to get closer to

00:41:57.980 our family. And I joke a lot about, you know, my family and, and, you know, being trapped.

00:42:03.620 Help me, Matt, please dear God, help me. I'm trapped in this house with my children and

00:42:07.040 their teenagers. Um, I joke a lot about it, but I will tell you that if we can use this time

00:42:13.400 to, um, uh, to explore our faith and expand our family, uh, relationship, it is, it will

00:42:23.200 be a time well spent. A great place to start just on examining is Matt Walsh's new book,

00:42:29.880 Church of Cowards, a wake up call to complacent Christians, a church of cowards. Matt, thank 1.00

00:42:35.260 you as always. Good talking to you. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:42:44.500 So we have Gregory Rogano. He is a Stanford advisor spark. He is the project lead of the

00:42:51.400 clinical tile, uh, trials for COVID-19 prevention. Last night, he made a pretty remarkable, uh,

00:43:00.120 announcement and we are keeping our fingers crossed that it is true. Greg, welcome to the program.

00:43:06.660 Thank you for having me on Glenn. Sure. So, so tell me what, what you've discovered,

00:43:12.960 what you have, what it means and how fast can it get out? So really this is the key item here is that

00:43:21.700 we don't have time. This disease is growing at an exponential rate, um, of 10 X. So we need to

00:43:30.140 proceed immediately. We do not have time and we need to shut this disease down right now. It's a

00:43:35.220 matter of national security. So specifically, I just want to lead with this, that the president

00:43:41.640 of the United States of America, our commander in chief has the authority to authorize the use

00:43:47.220 of hydroxychloroquine against coronavirus immediately. He's cut more red tape at the FDA

00:43:52.820 than any other president in history. And for example, in 2017, the FDA approved a muscular dystrophy

00:43:59.980 drug based on an uncontrolled trial of less than 15 patients. That's one five. And the drug was

00:44:08.460 approved by the FDA. So what I'm here to report is based on a well-controlled peer reviewed

00:44:16.340 clinical study out of the South of France by the most eminent infectious disease specialist

00:44:23.440 in the world, Didier Raoult, MD, PhD. He enrolled 40 patients, which showed a 100% cure rate after

00:44:34.640 taking two generic drugs, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, 100% cure rate against coronavirus

00:44:43.040 within six days. The study was released yesterday morning on my Twitter account,

00:44:50.040 Regano ESQ, and also on covidtrial.io and was recently accepted into the International Journal

00:44:58.060 of Antimicrobial Agents by Elsevier. We are in contact with hospitals across the country

00:45:04.360 and around the world. And they're implementing this protocol immediately.

00:45:10.460 So what is it that that that you have? I mean, what I mean, we do we have to have more trials that

00:45:20.120 you say the president needs to open this up? What is the next step? Do you have the finished product

00:45:25.580 and can it be mass produced? The finished product are generic drugs that have been around for over

00:45:33.960 50 years? So hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug that was developed in response to American

00:45:42.800 soldiers coming back from World War Two in the Far East that had contracted malaria.

00:45:46.740 It has a high quality safety profile and has never come off the market since 19, about 1955.

00:45:56.580 It is used on a regular basis to treat autoimmune diseases as well as rheumatoid arthritis.

00:46:07.220 So this is in literally every pharmacy in America and this can be implemented today. It's very inexpensive.

00:46:14.480 It's a generic drug. The data is unrefutable and the president can proceed immediately. Again,

00:46:21.160 the FDA has approved drugs based on clinical trials with less patients. And in only one clinical trial,

00:46:31.240 this can happen right now. Well, this doesn't seem like it's a hard thing. I mean,

00:46:37.660 you know, you're not making these are both generic drugs, aren't they? I mean,

00:46:40.980 azithromycin has been around forever. Correct. I mean, who has not heard of a Z-Pak? 1.00

00:46:47.020 Right. So it's not like you're standing or this doctor is standing to make a lot of money

00:46:52.200 on this, correct? It has nothing to do with that. It really has to do with where we're in a global

00:46:58.880 crisis right now. The world is shutting down. The airline industry is having significant difficulties.

00:47:06.320 You know, people are getting fired from their jobs. There's massive layoffs. The infection rate

00:47:14.220 is growing at an exponential rate. ICU rooms are getting overfilled. And the most importantly,

00:47:23.540 the doctors and nurses on the front lines, that's who is at the biggest risk. And we need to take care

00:47:30.440 of them right now. And this can happen immediately. This protocol needs to be disseminated through the

00:47:37.620 scientific community. Any human being that is listening right now, please disseminate this

00:47:43.180 protocol, which can be found at covidtrial.io or my Twitter account, ReganoESQ, disseminated to any

00:47:52.360 scientist, medical doctor or nurse that, you know. Have you talked to the White House?

00:48:01.940 We are in we have a direct line to them and we're waiting for them to reach out.

00:48:08.320 It's remarkable that you haven't heard from them, because I think this is kind of the shot that was

00:48:13.360 heard around the world last night. It's it's nothing new. These drugs have been tried separately.

00:48:18.660 There's no indication that these drugs used together have any kind of ill effect.

00:48:26.260 So the the trial showed that there was a 100 percent cure rate in six days.

00:48:32.620 Both of these drugs have a very high quality safety profile.

00:48:36.720 Again, please, please submit this protocol to all scientists, medical doctors and nurses

00:48:41.360 throughout the world and, you know, let them make the peer reviewed decision.

00:48:45.200 And, you know, with respect to the White House reaching out.

00:48:49.600 So we know that President Trump received our white paper within 24 hours after it being published.

00:48:56.560 Dr. Fauci is doing an excellent job and we know that they're going to make the right decision.

00:49:00.800 This is a matter of national security. And again, this can be implemented right now.

00:49:05.680 And the scientific evidence here is really unrefutable.

00:49:10.960 Okay, great. Thank you. It's Regano ESQ. That's R-I-G-A-N-O. Regano ESQ.

00:49:20.600 Or you can find the the information at the web address. I'm just looking for it.

00:49:27.500 It's covid trial dot IO covid trial dot IO. Thank you so much.

00:49:32.940 I just have one last point. You have 30 seconds.

00:49:37.200 Yeah, sure do. So so in addition to this, what's most important is that we stop the

00:49:42.660 transmission of the virus. So it's great that we found a cure that works, but we must stop

00:49:47.100 transmission. So there's strong scientific evidence that hydroxychloroquine will function

00:49:52.700 as a preventative to stop the transmission. And we're starting that trial immediately.

00:49:57.120 And we are asking the government for their support, both financially and scientifically.

00:50:03.820 And if we start this trial today, which we have already done, we will have results within one to

00:50:09.740 two months guaranteed. We're in active discussions with Elon Musk on Twitter. Please follow along the

00:50:16.680 conversation. And again, any doctor or nurse that wants to participate, participate, please go to

00:50:23.300 covid trial dot IO. Thank you. Hey, it's Glenn. And I want to tell you about something that you

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