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A potential cure for coronavirus is on the way, and we have a guest on the show to talk about it. Plus, the word quadrillion makes an appearance on the podcast for the first time, and Matt Walsh talks about his new book, Church of Cowards.
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Welcome to the podcast. It's another coronavirus day. It's kind of hard not to talk about it,
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but there was some really good news towards the end of the podcast we're going to get to in a
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second. Pat Gray is on talking about how much we're looking forward here of spending and what
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is at risk with our economy. The word quadrillion makes an appearance here on the podcast for the
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first time. Matt Walsh has a new book. It's called Church of Cowards. He talks about what's going on
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with the coronavirus as well as what's going on with our churches and what's going on with
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the idea of having a spine in your faith. Is that something that's kind of a relic of the past?
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And in an incredible sequence of events on the show today, we have a guest on in our third hour
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who talks about a potential cure for coronavirus in a very confident way. And amazingly, he's pleading
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for the president to recognize what's going on and clear the way for this drug to come out.
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And as soon as he goes off the air, the president starts a press conference and actually says just
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that, that this drug is getting a clear path because of the potential to really curb the virus.
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So there's some real hope towards the end of the show. You can get all the details on it
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as well. Also, we'll be talking about coronavirus as well on Stew Does America tonight. Make sure you
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check in. If you have a second here, search for Stew Does America, subscribe on your podcast app,
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and make the world a better place. Here's a podcast.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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All right, so I got some good news. I got some really good news. According to scientists now
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out of London, some really good. How are things going in your house right now? Because we haven't
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had a meltdown. Uh-uh. No. The kids haven't said, I can't do this. Oh, yeah, really?
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It's been four days. Wait to see what you can actually do. Anyway, we're trying to flatten the
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curve. That's what everybody's trying to do. We're imposing social distancing to slow the spread of
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the virus so the number of people sick doesn't cause the health care system to collapse, as it's
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threatening to do in Italy and elsewhere right now. That means the pandemic needs to last at a low
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level until either enough people have had COVID-19 to leave most immune, assuming that our immune system
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actually will leave a marker in us to say, oh, I recognize that. I can fight that. Last night,
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I had an expert on said that she's 99% sure that this is going to happen, that we are going to have
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those markers in us. But we don't know yet. We don't know. This is going to last until we either
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get those markers in us or until there's a vaccine. So how long will that take? How draconian are things
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going to have to get? All right. We've been told that it'll be just a couple of weeks. We're just
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going to do this for a couple of weeks. And I've been telling you, no, that's not it. We're not
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going to be doing this for a couple of weeks. We're going to be doing this for a long time.
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Plan on eight weeks is what I said. Well, scientists in London have just come out with some new numbers.
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According to a report yesterday, as long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can keep
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reoccurring without stringing controls to contain them. In the report yesterday, researchers at the
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Imperial College of London proposed a way of doing this. Impose more extreme social distancing measures
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every time the admissions to intensive health care units start to spike, then relax them when they
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start to fall. Every time they rise above a threshold, let's just say, for example, a hundred per
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week, the country would have to close all schools and most universities and adopt social distancing.
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When they drop below 50, those measures can be lifted. But people with symptoms or whose family
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members have symptoms would still be confined at home. Now, social distancing, something that we had
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never heard, but we're used to now all of these new words and phrases just being thrown at us.
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What is social distancing? Researchers define it as all households reduce contact outside of the
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household, school or workplace by at least 75 percent. Now, that doesn't mean that you don't go out with
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your friends once a week instead of four times. Really? Is that what you got, Stu? Are you getting that from
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social distancing that, ah, you know, but Fridays are different?
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No, apparently not. That's not allowed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It means everyone does everything they
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can to minimize social contact. And overall, the number of contacts fall by 75 percent. Under this
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model, the researchers conclude social distancing and school closures would need to be in force
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some two thirds of the time. Roughly two months on one month off until a vaccine is available. They say
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that will take at least 18 months. Now, I don't know about you, but my kids are already starting to
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social distance themselves from me. Uh, and, uh, uh, I can't imagine being locked in the house for 18
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months. I don't think, I don't think that's something that we will accept, frankly. I mean,
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that is this type of thing that we will just, we'll just say, no, we will just read the rest of this.
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Yes, I know. I know. I've read the rest of this happy missive. Yeah. So surely there has to be some
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other options. Why not just build a whole buttload of ICUs? Well, it doesn't work. The researchers
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model that didn't solve the problem without social distancing of the whole population. They found even
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the best mitigation strategy, which means isolation or quarantine of the sick, the old, and those who
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have been exposed plus school closures would still lead to a surge of critically ill people
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eight times bigger than the U S or UK system can cope with. So even if you set factories out to
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just turn out ventilators and beds and ICU farms, you still need more nurses and doctors to take care
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of everybody. And we just don't have that in all scenarios without widespread social distancing,
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the number of COVID cases overwhelms the healthcare system. Okay. All right. How about just
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restrictions for one batch of five months? Nope, not good. Once measures are lifted, the pandemic
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breaks out all over again. This time it's in winter, the worst time for the healthcare system. Now
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I'm looking at this, isn't this a stew exactly what, uh, China is doing right now. Isn't China in the
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midst of releasing the herds back out into the wilderness? Yeah. So we're going to see whether this
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works or not because China is basically experimenting with it right now as we speak. And you know, the big
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news yesterday was supposedly again, if you believe China's numbers and the, what they're telling us
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supposedly, don't even use the word you racist. Don't even use the word China on this program,
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but the numbers are coming from China. Oh my gosh. They're coming from all right. Anyway,
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what did they find? What they found was zero cases for the first time since this started of community
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spread. So that means they did have 34 new cases, but all 34 were people traveling into China from
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other areas, um, which might be another thing they may want to consider stopping. And also why would
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you go to China at this point? Uh, this is not a good, I know it's like, oh man, the savings,
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the savings of seeing the great wall of China and maybe I'm me and the family could be buried
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inside the wall. It'd be great. Okay. So this, what I don't understand is why we're being told.
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And I, you know, and I, uh, I asked the doctor on our special last night and I don't feel like I got
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a great answer. Um, why is it that China is releasing people and they're not experiencing this? Why is it
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that China, um, stop this dead in its tracks with a lot more people that already had it? Ours are all
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just projections. You know, let's do looking at this. I'll bet you the people who are doing the
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modeling on this thing are the same people who are telling us about global warming. Um, but, uh,
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yeah. Um, why is it when we have an actual country where we had thousands and thousands and thousands
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of people infected? Why didn't we have a hundred thousand deaths in China, but we're supposed to
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have them here. It doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. Especially when you think of the, the Chinese
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lifestyle, right? Is giant, massive cities where people are packed into very tight areas,
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working very closely. And nobody blinks when you say, I don't know, uh, yeah, throw that bat in that
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soup. Nobody blinks. Yeah. It's not, it's, it's not, it's not a healthy lifestyle in many ways.
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Yeah. Especially for this type of thing, how we, for this type of thing, I mean, it's, it's a real,
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there's a reason why we've had, you know, I was saying yesterday, like we can't, I really do think
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it's inappropriate to call it the Chinese virus because they're going to release another virus in
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like a year and we're going to have, and we're going to have to come up with a whole new name for it.
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Uh, so like it's just, you know, it's inefficient. Do you know what MERS is? Yeah. Middle East
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respiratory syndrome, which I'm sorry. It's what Middle East respiratory syndrome. Yes. Middle
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East respiratory system. Wow. Uh, do you know what the West Nile virus is? Yes, I do. I've,
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they come. Yeah. Spanish flu. It's a virus. Yeah. Spanish flu. I mean, uh, this is what we call
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things. I used to live two towns away from, uh, from old Lyme, Connecticut, uh, Lyme disease,
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Lyme, Connecticut. That's where it's from. I mean, this is so unbelievably rich. I'll get
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into this in a minute. Let me just finish this stupid thing. Uh, all right. So this is going
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to have a huge impact on, uh, people coming together, restaurants, cafes, bars, nightclubs,
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gyms, hotels, favors, uh, theaters, uh, movie, uh, cinemas, uh, art gallery, shopping malls,
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craft fairs, museums, musicians, other performers, sporting venues, sports teams,
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conference, uh, conference venues, uh, cruise lines, airlines, public transportation, private
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schools, public schools, daycare centers. I mean, are you kidding me? This is the entire
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thing. Now they say there'll be some adaption. Of course, gyms could start selling home equipment.
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Oh, and online training sessions. Oh, okay. All right. It's now being called the shut-in
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economy, shut-in economy. It sounds sustainable to me. Um, now they're saying that we're going
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to have a better healthcare system at the other end of this. Oh, are we, or are we going to have
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a nationalized healthcare system? They say maybe movie theaters will take out half of their seats.
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Meetings will be held in larger rooms with spaced out chairs. Gyms will require you to book workouts
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ahead of time so they don't get too crowded. But here's the good news. Governments all around the
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world, including Israel, have decided to use cell phone location data. See if this matches what you've
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been saying is coming, Stu. Uh, it'll match location data with its intelligence services that they use to
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track terrorists to trace people who've been in touch with known carriers of the virus. Singapore does
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exhaustive contact tracing and publishes detailed data on each known case, all but identifying people
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by name, uh, to get on a flight. Perhaps we're going to have to be signed up to a service that
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tracks your movement via your phone. The airline wouldn't be able to see where you've gone, but it
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would be able to get alert. If you have been close to someone that has been infected or in a disease
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hotspot, there'd be similar requirements for the entrance of large venues, government buildings,
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public transportation hubs. There'd be temperature scanners everywhere. And your workplace might
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demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs where nightclubs
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ask for proof of age in the future. They may ask for proof of immunity, an identity card or some kind
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of digital verification via your phone showing you've already recovered from or been vaccinated.
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The intrusive surveillance will be considered a small price to pay for the basic freedom to be
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with other people. Gig workers. Again, this is this, this is a report from London. Gig workers from
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drivers to plumbers to freelance yoga instructors will see their jobs becoming more precarious.
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Immigrants, refugees, the undocumented and ex-convicts will face yet another basic obstacle to gaining a
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foothold in society. Bull crap, bull crap. That won't happen. Can somebody, this is another thing
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I'm going to take on today. Can somebody please tell me why we're releasing prisoners? Why are we
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releasing prisoners? Isn't that the ultimate in isolation? Isn't that, aren't we just quarantining them?
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Why are we releasing people onto the streets? Who came up with that idea? I know it's rhetorical. I know
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who came up with that. Moreover, unless there are strict rules on how someone's risk for disease is
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assessed, governments or companies could choose any criteria. You're high risk if you earn less than
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fifty thousand dollars a year. If you're in a family, more than six people or you live in certain
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parts of the country, for example. Oh, another way to separate us, divide us and keep us in our own
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little corrals. This is great. That creates scope for algorithmic bias and hidden discrimination
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has what happened last year with a U.S. U.S. health insurer. They used an algorithm that turned out to
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inadvertently favor white people. Oh, my gosh. All right. I'm going to take a break. I want you to go
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get some duct tape and I want you to wrap it around your head as tight as you possibly can, because I
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don't know about you, but my head's about to explode. Now, you're not going to it's not going to stop it
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from exploding. But when and if you can ever go outside to go to a doctor and say, could you put my
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head back together? You'll have all of the bone pieces, everything you need to assemble it right
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there on the inside of that duct tape might take you a while. But I suggest you wrap your head because
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it's going to be a bumpy ride. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hi, it's Glenn. If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us a favor and rate us on iTunes?
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Thanks. Hey, welcome to it. We got a lot of things to do today. I don't know where to start
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with Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed. I thought we'd have a rolling conversation. And Pat, you can
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spin the wheel here wherever you want it to stop. We can talk about whose idea was it to just release
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people from prison? Isn't that kind of quarantine? Isn't that social distancing? Everybody stay in your
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cell. Since when? Who came up with this? Why are we doing this? Okay, we have that as topic number
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one. Topic number two is China. How dare you call this a Chinese virus? How dare you call this the
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Wuhan virus? Really? The Spanish flu didn't even come from Spain?
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Oh, God. That's just where it was hit hardest. Yeah. Or we could just talk about, come on,
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come on. We could talk about the GOP. Yeah. That is, they're willing to spend anything. And
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where are we getting these ideas? Can you tell me what the metrics are here? If you really want
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to help people, you're just going to send everyone a check for $1,000? What are you talking
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about? First of all, it's not everybody. It's only people who have an income of, I think it's
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$100,000 or $150,000 as a couple and $75,000 and below as an individual. Okay. Well, that covers
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a lot of people. But what are they supposed to do with that? Where are they going with
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that? And really, we're just, how about just no taxes for anyone? Right. That's the real
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taxes. That's the less government thing to do. We're doing the bigger government thing.
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And that's what we keep doing over and over and over. How about this one, Pat? How about
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how about this one? How about you can't foreclose on anybody's home? Can't do it. Can't do it
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for the next six months or until the same. I mean, that's not good. No, but it's not just
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printing money. I do believe that is part of this. I think they're going to do that for
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two months, right? Isn't it a two month process to start? Yeah. Yeah. But you've got, you've
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got McConnell, Mitch McConnell, who's a supposed Republican. And this is why we didn't like the
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guy so much in the first place. We're going to go on and vote as soon as the Senate can get
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permission to vote on the bill. Came over from the House, sent it down to the president, reassure
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the people. He added a number of my members think there are considerable shortcomings in the bill.
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My counsel to them is to gag and vote for it anyway. Oh, that's it's very conservative of you.
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Thanks. Thanks, Mitch. And then it's the I'm beginning to hate this phrase more than the more
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than poison. Let's not let perfection be the enemy of good. Shut up. Shut up. I can't take
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that. I can't take it. Do you know the CDC guidance of how far I have to be away from Pat? What is
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yelling like that? It's definitely going to be a mile and a half. No, that's yeah, that's why I'm
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that's why I'm in another studio. There is no distance. You know, try Cleveland. We have eight
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conservatives left in the Senate. Eight. Marsha Blackburn voted against it. James Inhofe. Ron
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Johnson. James Lankford. Mike Lee, of course. Thank you, Mike. Rand Paul, Ben Sasse and Tim
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Scott. Those are the only conservatives, I guess, left in office. Well, because they were they
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were hammering Rand Paul yesterday because he decided to propose an amendment and the amendment
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would say, hey, if we're going to give a trillion dollars away, let's come up with a way to pay for
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that. And maybe we for his idea was, let's get rid of the war in Afghanistan. Let's and he suggested
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a couple of other things that would pay for it. And they're like, how dare you? Chuck Schumer's like,
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this is a crisis. And we're this is wasting time. Really? Is the four hours you had to wait to go
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through the voting process? Really going to be the difference here? You know, I it's not like
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you're going to guys are going to send out these checks today. Like we all understand this is going
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to be a little bit of time, but you know, they can't even have a conversation about paying for
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it. And I know this is a tough one. Like, you know, to your point about the taxes, like I love that.
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And I think that's a great way. And I love that I would suspend all federal taxes. Yeah. And it's
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great. Glenn's made a great point in this. Like it's it's an almost an automatic sunset.
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They can't keep all this power because they're going to want to reverse the tax thing so badly
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that when it's time to reverse it, maybe they will. Right. But the issue there is, and I think
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they absolutely will. In fact, they will end it. They will end that if you tie it to no taxes until
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this national emergency is over, I can guarantee you at the very first opportunity that they have
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to declare this national emergency over and they'll declare it next Tuesday. They will do it. Really?
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Yeah. It'll be like a national emergency. You know, I think we might have been overreacting a little bit.
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There's a giant pile of bodies outside the hospital. You think it's over now?
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No, no, no. We have less bodies today than we did yesterday. It's over. It's over.
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The only time your convictions and principles are tested are when there's a crisis, right?
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There's no, you don't have to. I mean, you, your principles don't have any sort of a trial.
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It's easy. If there's nothing going on, of course, they're going to be tested in a crisis
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and that's when it's important to stick to them. Yeah, it's they won't. They won't.
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It strikes me, too, like with the taxes thing, the one argument I think that has some value
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against just doing taxes is there are a bunch of people who are going to lose their job
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and then not have taxes to pay. So they're already paying zero and it's not necessarily
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going to help those people. But we do have things like unemployment that maybe maybe there
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maybe the the it's a little bit easier to get. Maybe it's a little bit more generous than it was
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in the past. But there are things like that that are able to be done where, you know, you can
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you can bridge that gap for people who really need it. Just throwing a thousand dollars at
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everybody in America. I mean, you know, it's I understand Andrew Yang made that sound so appealing,
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appealing. But it's you know, it's it's a very questionable thing. It's the type of thing
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that may not go away. And obviously, as Mitch McConnell points out, nobody's putting thought
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into this. They won't even take time to vote on an amendment. They think that's the worst
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thing in the world. And by the way, Mike Lee was, I think, one of three along with Rand Paul
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that actually voted for the Rand Paul amendment. And, you know, they don't want to even take time
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to figure out how to pay for it. They don't they don't want you even if you have a problem
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with the bill. They just want you to vote for it anyway. Like, that's how we always
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get a vote. Right. Always time. So I have some additional happy news. Okay. Okay. Do
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we have any happy music or anything, Sarah? Do we have anything that's like, oh, that'll
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make me feel better when I say this. Do you have anything? Oh, you know what? Let's get
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that really moody. Yeah. Okay. I like this. Ladies, I am not a meat puppet. Okay. No. All
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right. So as we're sitting around here with our cocktails in our hand and just talking about
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the little people, let me tell you about you remember a Pat, Pat, come here for a second.
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Come on over here for a second. Do you remember when the people were talking in 2008 about this
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thing called derivatives? Right. Derivatives. And the little people thought, oh, this is
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a bad thing. These derivatives. And the banks were, of course, they were too big to fail because
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they had some money in derivatives and that caused the whole breakdown. Do you remember
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those times? Right, right, right, right, right. Uh, the banks are now, guess, guess how much
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the banks are sitting on in derivatives now? Guess. I want you to guess. Um, no, don't
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get rid of the music. And please, I need that cocktail music. I'm guessing more than back
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in 2008. Guess a number. Okay. Guess a number. Guess a number. I know it's huge. Do you want
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me to play my old game? And, uh, no, I don't. No. Well, yeah, go ahead. All right. Play your
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old game. A $50 trillion. $50 trillion. $50 trillion. $50 trillion. That's now for anybody
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who doesn't know Pat's old game, Pat's old game is he guesses some crazy number and then
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he's like, and I'm disappointed if it's a dollar below that. And I spoil the surprise.
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That's right. Yes. Correct. Correct. Okay. Okay. Well, you're, you, if we were playing the
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game, uh, closest without going over, you would lose. Wow. Unless we were playing it
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for individual banks. For instance, JP Morgan Chase, they now have derivatives sitting on
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$48 trillion. One bank. Citigroup has $47 trillion. And Goldman Sachs, $42 trillion.
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$42 trillion. Would you like another drink and try to play again? Guess the number of
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derivatives. Guess it. Guess. Go ahead. So the total number. Total number. 48 quadrillion.
00:26:01.440
And I'll be disappointed if it's a dollar less. There you go. Nice work. 48 quadrillion.
00:26:06.800
I think you got over it that time. Yep, you did. It's only 1.5 quadrillion dollars. That
00:26:14.740
is astounding. That's the first time I've ever heard it in a real story. The quadrillion
00:26:25.120
number. I said to my kids last week, this is going to be an amazing week. By Saturday,
00:26:31.460
you will see and hear things that you've never seen before. That is the same thing I said
00:26:37.240
last night when I found that number, Pat. I've never heard the word quadrillion used in a real
00:26:45.460
sentence. Wow. 1.5 quadrillion dollars of derivatives. Remember, derivatives, the bad thing.
00:26:56.500
Yeah. The thing that the banks were too big to fail. Wow. 1.4 quadrillion. No, 1.5 quadrillion.
00:27:10.820
That's I mean, that's unthinkable. You can't even. I mean, the only time I've actually ever heard it
00:27:16.580
and I've never seen it in a story. You know where I saw the I think it was in the movie.
00:27:21.300
Uh, passenger, the passenger. Did you see passenger with, um, Jennifer Lawrence and Chris? What's his
00:27:30.520
face? Oh, may have. Yeah. Remember that? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Chris Pratt. Okay. So they're,
00:27:36.560
they're traveling and this is a future movie, obviously, and they're traveling to some other
00:27:40.100
distant because the earth is dying or whatever. And she, she's talking about how much money the
00:27:46.260
company is making on, uh, relocating humans to this other planet. And it was, I think it was
00:27:53.980
something like four quadrillion dollars. And that was the only time I'd ever, and it was like a
00:27:58.500
number. Okay. Well, we're not going to get to that probably even in that year. Here we are in 2020
00:28:04.200
and we've gotten to that number in bad debt. Yeah. That's not good. That's not good. Yeah. That's
00:28:11.740
not good. As Stu would say, that's suboptimal. By about $1.5 quadrillion. Yeah. I'll give you
00:28:20.620
the rest of this. The reason why I came across these numbers, I'll give you the rest of it
00:28:24.800
next hour. You don't want to miss it. Uh, you know, might want to prepare because, uh, $1.5 quadrillion
00:28:33.580
in derivatives. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Mr. Matt Walsh podcast host
00:28:47.060
of the Matt Walsh show. Uh, he's as clever as I am with the Glenn, with the Glenn Beck podcast. We
00:28:54.660
didn't work hard on the name of it. We work on the content. He's also the author of a brand new book
00:28:59.640
called the church of cowards. Hello, Matt. How are you? Hey, Glenn. Doing well. How about
00:29:05.200
you? I'm fantastic. I'm fantastic. Uh, anything, anything on your mind that you want to hit
00:29:14.680
first before we get into the church of cowards, uh, you know, on the Corona virus, like you
00:29:19.020
want to make sure that we're not calling it, uh, you know, the Chinese virus or the Wuhan
00:29:22.900
virus or anything else. I mean, cause I, I'm sure you agree with that. Yeah, that's the, that's
00:29:28.760
of course the most important issue. I mean, when you're, when you're, uh, in the media
00:29:32.080
and you're at a press conference with the president of the United States during a pandemic
00:29:34.920
and, uh, and we're looking at a possible possibility of a global depression, you know, and you have
00:29:39.880
a chance to ask him a question, obviously you should ask him about why he's doing a big
00:29:43.180
media head to China. I mean, that's, that's obviously the most right. Discussing right now.
00:29:47.200
Right. I mean, we haven't had a depression in, I don't know, at least a couple of years.
00:29:51.740
Well, I think it's been since the 1930s that we've been in a depression and that, I mean,
00:29:57.100
how posh is your life? If that's the thing that you're worried about, how out of touch
00:30:02.880
are you? And then meanwhile, I mean, in all seriousness, there are people, many people
00:30:08.100
in this country who are worried now about how are they going to, you know, feed their families
00:30:12.040
next week? Cause they're not making any money. So I, I don't, I don't think that those people
00:30:15.720
really care what we call this damn thing. I think they're more worried about, you know,
00:30:19.500
what, what's the end game? Where's this? Okay. We're, we'll, we'll have to stay in our homes.
00:30:24.100
Is this going to be over next week? Uh, is it going to be over in two months?
00:30:26.760
It kind of makes a big difference. I think most people want to know what, what's, what's
00:30:30.820
the out here? What does it look like? What are we, what are we, what's the point? What
00:30:34.620
is this supposed to, how are we going to know that it's okay to go outside again? And I
00:30:37.660
don't think that's articulated or explained. And I think that that's just more anxious.
00:30:42.640
People, people keep saying in Washington, well, we're going to do this until this emergency
00:30:46.560
is over. Can you tell me what the metric is that we're going to use to decide when this
00:30:51.560
emergency is over. Can you give me any, I've been asking for weeks for my, for my own company,
00:30:58.040
I've been asking, I need to see what the tripwires are. How is the government measuring things?
00:31:05.080
So when they know you're going to go from phase one to phase two, no one has tripwires.
00:31:09.960
Now somebody's making the decision, but based on what there was, there's, there's where we
00:31:16.660
are printing trillions of dollars and just giving them away. Does anybody have anything
00:31:24.160
that they're basing this on? Is it anything other than no? Well, he wants to give less.
00:31:29.260
So I want to give more. What is all of this based on? There's no reality. There's no fact.
00:31:34.860
There's nothing. Yeah. It makes it, I mean, the hard thing is that even the scientists and the
00:31:41.920
doctors don't know everything, don't know everything about this virus because obviously
00:31:45.460
it's new. And the rest of us, I know for me, I don't know a damn thing about viruses or pandemics.
00:31:50.780
It's not something I've really thought about up until now. I'm not an expert. So, you know,
00:31:54.880
we're looking for, we need to know who we can trust on this and who we can listen to. And of course,
00:31:58.980
we know we can't live, we can't listen to the media in the disinformation age that we live in. So
00:32:03.840
where do you go? Who do you, who, who's in that? So who has their, Matt, who has their
00:32:09.880
credibility? Cause you, you've written a book, uh, the church of cowards and in the very first
00:32:16.640
chapter, Christians not worth killing. Uh, I mean, that's, that is quite a statement and I think
00:32:24.100
it's right. I think it's true that they don't have any credibility either. Many of them.
00:32:29.740
Yeah. That's the, that's the thing you hear when I hear this from Christians all the time,
00:32:34.400
how they're worried about, um, you know, the possibility of some real violent persecution
00:32:39.580
happening in this country, the way that it's happened, uh, as we know, it is happening now
00:32:43.820
in so many other parts of the world. But the point is that it's, it's, there's no reason for it to
00:32:49.060
happen here. Anybody who wants to persecute the church here, there's no reason to go to that level
00:32:53.020
because Christians are just abandoning their faith, uh, on their own, just very, very happy
00:32:58.780
to do it without much encouragement. And so, um, that's why I say not worth killing. We're sort of,
00:33:04.340
we're not worth this in this country where we're not worth persecuting. I don't think we've,
00:33:11.060
Well, I, I think we're kind of like where Germany was, uh, Germany, you know, the church was strong
00:33:17.940
in Germany, but they sold out to the Nazis and replaced the, the pictures of Christ on the
00:33:23.380
mantles, uh, within, I think it was a year of his, uh, of his becoming chancellor. Most of them had
00:33:31.340
already just said, Oh, I give, okay, you're right. And they were, they were holding meetings as a
00:33:37.700
greater German church to get, to talk about it and seriously discuss the getting rid of the old
00:33:44.900
Testament in the Bible because of all of the Jewishness of it. I mean, there weren't, well,
00:33:50.920
there wasn't a great prosecutor or persecution of the, of the German churches in world war II.
00:33:57.480
There were, there was a, a persecution of some Christians, but the churches by and large kind
00:34:05.040
of went right along with it. Yeah. I think that's, I think it's a good analogy because I, I, I, that's
00:34:10.340
what you see in our culture as well with, uh, with so many churches that are, you know, it's,
00:34:15.900
it's not about going along with, with a, with a, you know, the dictator figure like Hitler, but it's
00:34:19.860
more about going along with the culture and the culture of death and not wanting to, uh, resist or
00:34:25.900
fight back because number one, I think we've lost our, we've lost that sort of warrior spirit that used
00:34:31.840
to be, has always been historically a part of Christianity from the very beginning. And also we've been told
00:34:36.320
that things like tolerance are these great virtues. And so we can go with the flow and be apathetic
00:34:43.400
and then dress in and be cowardly and dress that up as tolerance. But of course we know that
00:34:49.100
tolerance is not a virtue at all. Tolerance can be fine depending on what you're, but it all depends
00:34:53.200
on what you're tolerating. And even if you're tolerating something good, it's a, it doesn't
00:34:57.280
take a lot. The thing about tolerance is that you can do it from your couch with Cheeto dust all over
00:35:01.100
your, all over your chest. It's really easy to tolerate things. It just requires you to literally
00:35:06.160
do nothing and allow whatever it is that's happening to continue happening. So it's not
00:35:09.720
virtuous. And we know that, that with, as, as Christians, there are so many things that
00:35:13.640
we should not be tolerating to the best of our ability. We should be resisting and fighting back
00:35:17.880
against them. That's what, if you look, they pick up the gospel sometimes and read them. I think people
00:35:21.700
need to actually do that, especially if you're a Christian and you're going to find that Jesus,
00:35:24.940
Jesus Christ, when he was walking around on earth was, was, was confrontational. He was not,
00:35:29.880
he was not a hippie peacenik figure going along to get along. He was confronting constantly and aggressively.
00:35:35.920
Well, I have to, may, may I interrupt you, Mr. Matt Walsh? It's a Joe P reporter from MSNBC. And
00:35:44.060
in your book, you, you describe the hangout Jesus, the idea that Jesus hung out with sinners and
00:35:51.720
prostitutes. And that's exactly what he did. You know, you're saying he was, he was not a tolerant man,
00:35:56.480
but he was hanging out with them all the time. He was having dinner with them, probably partying with
00:36:01.960
them, uh, you know, just hanging with the common folk and you're this Jesus you're describing.
00:36:12.400
Yeah, well, I mean, it's easy not to recognize Jesus. If you haven't read the, if you haven't
00:36:15.700
read the accounts of him in the, in the Bible, that's the thing. He was, he was not hanging out.
00:36:23.700
I mean, he hung on the cross for sinners and that's, that's, so that's, that's very true. But
00:36:27.660
that's the point. It was the exact opposite of hanging out the way that we think of it. It
00:36:31.280
wasn't just, it wasn't just hanging around and, and, uh, and, uh, palling around. This
00:36:35.880
was about leadership and, and, uh, ministering to sinners. And I think those are the words
00:36:43.500
So are you seeing a Christian response right now to COVID-19? Are you seeing the churches
00:36:50.080
Well, I don't know because, uh, you know, the, a lot of the churches, of course, across
00:36:54.780
America, I know my church is shut down as so many churches have, I guess most of them
00:36:58.220
have. And I, I, I'm not going to call that a manifestation of a church of cowards and say
00:37:06.060
they're being cowards for doing it because, um, you know, I'm not in a position of having
00:37:09.920
to make those choices, thankfully. And I know that so many churches, you know, they, they
00:37:14.420
have a lot of older people. And so you have a responsibility to them and you don't want to put
00:37:19.020
them in a position where they're going to be harmed. So I understand that, but, but church
00:37:23.040
is really, church is not really four walls church. What happens inside of those far walls
00:37:29.900
four walls is the least important thing. Uh, you know, when it comes to being a Christian,
00:37:36.740
it's what you do outside of those four walls. So the, the building may be closed, but the
00:37:44.520
Right. That's exactly right. And I think that one of the really important things that the
00:37:47.600
church needs to do now and Christians need to do now is a response. I think people are
00:37:52.340
having, we already know there's a crisis of faith in this culture as it is. And then you
00:37:56.020
throw something like this into it and people are asking, I get questions like this and I'm
00:37:59.600
not, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm nobody, but I questions like, well, how could God allow this
00:38:03.880
to happen? Why, why would God allow something like this? Uh, where is God in all this? You know,
00:38:08.240
the classic questions that humans have been asking through the ages. And, uh, and it's,
00:38:12.200
it's, it's a question that Christians need to start taking seriously and trying really hard
00:38:15.420
to answer. Um, because that's another thing that I think there, there are people in our
00:38:18.720
culture who are losing their faith and it's not always because they want to go run off
00:38:22.620
and sin and because they're weak. It's, it's really because they're, you know, they haven't
00:38:26.380
been raised in the faith. Maybe they have legitimate questions. They're scared or confused.
00:38:30.620
They just, they need someone to come and take their questions seriously and, uh, address them.
00:38:35.060
Um, and then oftentimes I think we're, we're afraid to do that.
00:38:39.020
You say, um, you know, when is, when are American Christians willing to lay down their
00:38:43.880
smartphones, let alone their lives, uh, for the faith? How do you, uh, I think that the
00:38:51.680
churches are not providing, as you just said, any real answers and really any real
00:38:56.380
direction. Um, it seems like you're telling a bunch of old stories that we've heard a
00:39:02.300
million times, even though we haven't, um, you've heard a million times. I know the Jesus
00:39:06.980
story, uh, and they're not relating it at all to real life at all. And so people, they
00:39:14.660
get more out of their smartphone and they think that church and, and the Bible and everything
00:39:20.580
else has nothing to do with them and their life because the church has failed on that front.
00:39:28.220
Absolutely. And I think, I mean, you, you want to know the, the, the, the thing that's
00:39:32.020
responsible, I think for, for leading, you know, millions, especially of young people
00:39:35.680
away from the faith, it's YouTube. And, and what, what I mean by that is, is, is there
00:39:40.620
are young people, especially to go to college, they find that their faith is attacked. They're
00:39:44.120
being told all these things, presented all of these arguments, presented a lot of information,
00:39:48.080
much of it's false about the Bible and the history of Christianity. And so now they have
00:39:51.760
questions and they, they need to, they need to turn somewhere and, and, and, and ask someone
00:39:56.020
and they try to turn to their pastor and all they get is just silliness and platitude.
00:39:59.760
So they go to YouTube and they just start perusing and trying to find an answer somewhere
00:40:04.160
in there. And, and then they, they get the wrong answers and they get, you know, they
00:40:08.960
stumble on all these other videos and that's how they end up losing their faith because
00:40:12.140
again, it's just, there's not any real moral and, and also intellectual leadership happening
00:40:18.480
in the church in so many cases. And I think you're right that so many people go to church
00:40:23.440
and they find that what it seems like to them, they're getting old stories and they're
00:40:27.300
getting, uh, you know, a little pep talk that has no connection to their actual everyday
00:40:32.020
life and the moral struggles that they face. And if that's the case, then we're just going
00:40:36.840
to continue to lose, uh, Christians in this culture.
00:40:44.160
Well, I think the, you know, first of all, what we need, as we've been talking about from
00:40:48.040
the church and church leaders is, is a willingness to lead on a, you know, to show moral leadership
00:40:54.580
and to engage with the culture and to speak to people on the level where they are and about
00:40:59.520
the things that they're actually struggling, struggling with. But then also, I think we
00:41:03.420
as Christians need to do, uh, need to analyze ourselves and we need to think, you know, there's
00:41:10.460
a lot of extraordinary claims that we make, a lot of things that we, we claim to believe
00:41:13.940
that are quite, quite startling, honestly. And we have to think, do I, do I actually believe
00:41:18.080
those things? And if I do, well, that reality, um, that belief should infiltrate every aspect
00:41:25.200
of my life. I mean, there should be no part of my life that is immune from this belief.
00:41:30.560
And so then it's just, it's a bit, it's a difficult thing to do. I've tried to do it
00:41:33.420
and I've realized I'm failing in so many ways, but there are so many parts of my life that
00:41:37.280
I've tried to kind of put in the box and say, well, faith has nothing to do with that.
00:41:40.300
That's separate. And it's just, that's not, that's not the case. So I think that's
00:41:47.440
The subtitle of the book is a wake up call to complacent Christians. I think that's what
00:41:51.920
coronavirus is as well. I think, uh, we can use this, uh, opportunity to get closer to
00:41:57.980
our family. And I joke a lot about, you know, my family and, and, you know, being trapped.
00:42:03.620
Help me, Matt, please dear God, help me. I'm trapped in this house with my children and
00:42:07.040
their teenagers. Um, I joke a lot about it, but I will tell you that if we can use this time
00:42:13.400
to, um, uh, to explore our faith and expand our family, uh, relationship, it is, it will
00:42:23.200
be a time well spent. A great place to start just on examining is Matt Walsh's new book,
00:42:29.880
Church of Cowards, a wake up call to complacent Christians, a church of cowards. Matt, thank
00:42:35.260
you as always. Good talking to you. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:42:44.500
So we have Gregory Rogano. He is a Stanford advisor spark. He is the project lead of the
00:42:51.400
clinical tile, uh, trials for COVID-19 prevention. Last night, he made a pretty remarkable, uh,
00:43:00.120
announcement and we are keeping our fingers crossed that it is true. Greg, welcome to the program.
00:43:06.660
Thank you for having me on Glenn. Sure. So, so tell me what, what you've discovered,
00:43:12.960
what you have, what it means and how fast can it get out? So really this is the key item here is that
00:43:21.700
we don't have time. This disease is growing at an exponential rate, um, of 10 X. So we need to
00:43:30.140
proceed immediately. We do not have time and we need to shut this disease down right now. It's a
00:43:35.220
matter of national security. So specifically, I just want to lead with this, that the president
00:43:41.640
of the United States of America, our commander in chief has the authority to authorize the use
00:43:47.220
of hydroxychloroquine against coronavirus immediately. He's cut more red tape at the FDA
00:43:52.820
than any other president in history. And for example, in 2017, the FDA approved a muscular dystrophy
00:43:59.980
drug based on an uncontrolled trial of less than 15 patients. That's one five. And the drug was
00:44:08.460
approved by the FDA. So what I'm here to report is based on a well-controlled peer reviewed
00:44:16.340
clinical study out of the South of France by the most eminent infectious disease specialist
00:44:23.440
in the world, Didier Raoult, MD, PhD. He enrolled 40 patients, which showed a 100% cure rate after
00:44:34.640
taking two generic drugs, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, 100% cure rate against coronavirus
00:44:43.040
within six days. The study was released yesterday morning on my Twitter account,
00:44:50.040
Regano ESQ, and also on covidtrial.io and was recently accepted into the International Journal
00:44:58.060
of Antimicrobial Agents by Elsevier. We are in contact with hospitals across the country
00:45:04.360
and around the world. And they're implementing this protocol immediately.
00:45:10.460
So what is it that that that you have? I mean, what I mean, we do we have to have more trials that
00:45:20.120
you say the president needs to open this up? What is the next step? Do you have the finished product
00:45:25.580
and can it be mass produced? The finished product are generic drugs that have been around for over
00:45:33.960
50 years? So hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug that was developed in response to American
00:45:42.800
soldiers coming back from World War Two in the Far East that had contracted malaria.
00:45:46.740
It has a high quality safety profile and has never come off the market since 19, about 1955.
00:45:56.580
It is used on a regular basis to treat autoimmune diseases as well as rheumatoid arthritis.
00:46:07.220
So this is in literally every pharmacy in America and this can be implemented today. It's very inexpensive.
00:46:14.480
It's a generic drug. The data is unrefutable and the president can proceed immediately. Again,
00:46:21.160
the FDA has approved drugs based on clinical trials with less patients. And in only one clinical trial,
00:46:31.240
this can happen right now. Well, this doesn't seem like it's a hard thing. I mean,
00:46:37.660
you know, you're not making these are both generic drugs, aren't they? I mean,
00:46:40.980
azithromycin has been around forever. Correct. I mean, who has not heard of a Z-Pak?
00:46:47.020
Right. So it's not like you're standing or this doctor is standing to make a lot of money
00:46:52.200
on this, correct? It has nothing to do with that. It really has to do with where we're in a global
00:46:58.880
crisis right now. The world is shutting down. The airline industry is having significant difficulties.
00:47:06.320
You know, people are getting fired from their jobs. There's massive layoffs. The infection rate
00:47:14.220
is growing at an exponential rate. ICU rooms are getting overfilled. And the most importantly,
00:47:23.540
the doctors and nurses on the front lines, that's who is at the biggest risk. And we need to take care
00:47:30.440
of them right now. And this can happen immediately. This protocol needs to be disseminated through the
00:47:37.620
scientific community. Any human being that is listening right now, please disseminate this
00:47:43.180
protocol, which can be found at covidtrial.io or my Twitter account, ReganoESQ, disseminated to any
00:47:52.360
scientist, medical doctor or nurse that, you know. Have you talked to the White House?
00:48:01.940
We are in we have a direct line to them and we're waiting for them to reach out.
00:48:08.320
It's remarkable that you haven't heard from them, because I think this is kind of the shot that was
00:48:13.360
heard around the world last night. It's it's nothing new. These drugs have been tried separately.
00:48:18.660
There's no indication that these drugs used together have any kind of ill effect.
00:48:26.260
So the the trial showed that there was a 100 percent cure rate in six days.
00:48:32.620
Both of these drugs have a very high quality safety profile.
00:48:36.720
Again, please, please submit this protocol to all scientists, medical doctors and nurses
00:48:41.360
throughout the world and, you know, let them make the peer reviewed decision.
00:48:45.200
And, you know, with respect to the White House reaching out.
00:48:49.600
So we know that President Trump received our white paper within 24 hours after it being published.
00:48:56.560
Dr. Fauci is doing an excellent job and we know that they're going to make the right decision.
00:49:00.800
This is a matter of national security. And again, this can be implemented right now.
00:49:05.680
And the scientific evidence here is really unrefutable.
00:49:10.960
Okay, great. Thank you. It's Regano ESQ. That's R-I-G-A-N-O. Regano ESQ.
00:49:20.600
Or you can find the the information at the web address. I'm just looking for it.
00:49:27.500
It's covid trial dot IO covid trial dot IO. Thank you so much.
00:49:32.940
I just have one last point. You have 30 seconds.
00:49:37.200
Yeah, sure do. So so in addition to this, what's most important is that we stop the
00:49:42.660
transmission of the virus. So it's great that we found a cure that works, but we must stop
00:49:47.100
transmission. So there's strong scientific evidence that hydroxychloroquine will function
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as a preventative to stop the transmission. And we're starting that trial immediately.
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And we are asking the government for their support, both financially and scientifically.
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And if we start this trial today, which we have already done, we will have results within one to
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two months guaranteed. We're in active discussions with Elon Musk on Twitter. Please follow along the
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conversation. And again, any doctor or nurse that wants to participate, participate, please go to
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