The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Megyn Kelly

00:00:00.260 Today's program, Glenn, I think was about learning.

00:00:02.560 I think it was. All about education.

00:00:04.980 And we learned a lot.

00:00:06.560 We did learn a lot.

00:00:07.420 We learned a lot. We learned Glenn could lose his temper.

00:00:10.180 Yes.

00:00:11.040 That one I learned a long time ago.

00:00:14.620 We also learned

00:00:15.880 about a wonderful story

00:00:17.880 of a woman named Liss and her childhood.

00:00:20.780 Now, we're not...

00:00:22.060 I mean, are we sure that Liss

00:00:23.560 is a woman? I don't want to miss gender.

00:00:26.600 I have no idea what she is.

00:00:28.480 But you're going to learn

00:00:30.500 a lot about parenting.

00:00:32.680 Good parenting.

00:00:33.880 From Liss's

00:00:35.040 mom or dad, whichever she chooses

00:00:37.920 to identify as.

00:00:39.640 And we take you through...

00:00:43.400 And this is

00:00:44.100 heartbreaking.

00:00:45.300 Not as bad as psoriasis.

00:00:48.460 The heartbreak of

00:00:49.840 psoriasis is horrible.

00:00:51.620 But this is a heartbreaking story

00:00:54.120 about what it's like to be poor.

00:00:56.740 The city of

00:00:57.900 Highland Park

00:00:58.700 was going to have a

00:01:00.020 really

00:01:02.120 a horrifying event

00:01:05.340 happening at

00:01:06.720 the country club

00:01:07.840 of Highland Park

00:01:08.920 where

00:01:09.320 rich people were going to pretend

00:01:11.520 they were poor

00:01:12.280 for two and a half hours.

00:01:14.200 And

00:01:14.580 we take you through that exercise.

00:01:17.860 And it's pretty tough.

00:01:19.360 You don't want to miss

00:01:20.120 today's podcast.

00:01:20.840 You're listening to

00:01:29.420 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:35.780 Hello, Stu.

00:01:36.560 How was your weekend?

00:01:37.660 Great, Glenn.

00:01:38.100 How about you?

00:01:39.500 Fantastic.

00:01:41.340 Fantastic.

00:01:42.180 Of course, I found out this weekend

00:01:43.940 that the Constitution

00:01:45.420 is a little outdated

00:01:46.620 and is actually

00:01:47.900 putting our democracy

00:01:49.540 at risk.

00:01:50.680 And I didn't know that.

00:01:52.260 I didn't know that.

00:01:52.940 It's a strange

00:01:53.840 thing to say.

00:01:56.000 What do you mean?

00:01:56.740 Because to me,

00:01:58.220 the Constitution

00:01:59.100 protects

00:02:00.760 all aspects

00:02:02.340 of democracy

00:02:03.120 that exist

00:02:03.720 in our republic.

00:02:04.720 Well, it has.

00:02:05.360 Because we're not a democracy.

00:02:06.460 It has

00:02:07.260 until we had Facebook.

00:02:08.840 Oh.

00:02:09.300 You know,

00:02:09.580 now we have social media.

00:02:10.740 Now it puts it at risk.

00:02:12.680 How does that work exactly?

00:02:14.040 Well, they didn't see it.

00:02:15.100 They didn't see that.

00:02:15.980 They didn't see social media coming.

00:02:18.080 That's true.

00:02:18.840 And I'm guessing

00:02:19.960 that's one of the many things

00:02:21.740 that makes it outdated.

00:02:22.880 Here, let's listen

00:02:23.740 to the

00:02:24.220 Harvard government professor

00:02:26.440 discussing his new book,

00:02:29.080 Tyranny of the Minority.

00:02:31.340 Listen to this.

00:02:31.920 Well, we are

00:02:33.000 the only presidential democracy

00:02:34.800 in the world

00:02:35.620 where the president

00:02:36.820 can lose the election,

00:02:39.160 lose the popular vote,

00:02:41.060 and become president.

00:02:42.800 We are one of the few

00:02:44.000 democracies in the world

00:02:45.320 where a major legislative body,

00:02:48.900 the Senate,

00:02:50.260 the party that loses

00:02:51.780 the popular vote

00:02:52.620 can control

00:02:53.820 and routinely does control

00:02:55.620 the Senate.

00:02:56.860 We are the only

00:02:58.200 established democracy

00:02:59.200 in the world

00:02:59.860 where justices

00:03:01.620 have lifetime tenure.

00:03:03.060 There's no turn limits.

00:03:04.720 There's no

00:03:05.300 retirement age.

00:03:06.620 So,

00:03:07.280 this set of institutions

00:03:08.840 and others

00:03:09.440 allows

00:03:10.120 political minorities

00:03:11.900 to systematically

00:03:13.720 thwart

00:03:14.340 and sometimes

00:03:15.680 even govern

00:03:16.480 over majorities.

00:03:17.620 Since its founding,

00:03:19.080 we've improved

00:03:20.220 the Constitution.

00:03:21.140 We've done the hard work

00:03:22.240 of making our Constitution

00:03:23.100 more democratic.

00:03:24.840 You know,

00:03:25.080 women got the right

00:03:25.780 to vote at the beginning

00:03:26.460 of the 20th century

00:03:27.220 by amending the Constitution.

00:03:28.680 We began to elect

00:03:29.800 senators rather than

00:03:30.760 appoint senators

00:03:31.560 at the beginning

00:03:32.040 of the 20th century

00:03:32.880 and our democracy

00:03:33.980 has strengthened itself

00:03:35.520 over time

00:03:36.240 through amendments,

00:03:37.440 through improving it.

00:03:38.540 What's tragic

00:03:39.420 in our view

00:03:40.000 is that in the last 50 years

00:03:41.200 we've sort of stopped

00:03:41.880 doing that work,

00:03:42.740 whereas other democracies

00:03:43.820 have continued

00:03:44.400 to make their constitutions

00:03:45.520 more democratic.

00:03:46.500 Since around 1970,

00:03:47.600 we've abandoned

00:03:48.240 that project.

00:03:49.860 Hmm.

00:03:50.820 Hmm.

00:03:52.020 Tyranny of the minority.

00:03:54.680 Wow.

00:03:55.120 It's a good thing

00:03:56.460 we have these

00:03:57.040 Harvard professors

00:03:57.920 that know everything

00:03:58.940 and can teach

00:04:00.160 the new government students,

00:04:03.020 the new law students,

00:04:05.140 how to view

00:04:06.160 this outdated Constitution.

00:04:09.020 Tyranny of the minority.

00:04:11.640 So tyranny of the majority

00:04:13.040 is easy.

00:04:15.100 That happens all the time

00:04:16.620 where a majority,

00:04:19.280 we just get 51%

00:04:21.040 to go,

00:04:22.300 yeah,

00:04:23.320 let's get them.

00:04:25.520 And you get them.

00:04:27.660 And it's wonderful.

00:04:29.500 Then you have...

00:04:30.740 Oh, sure, it is.

00:04:31.820 Is wonderful the right word

00:04:32.940 you're looking for there?

00:04:33.720 Yeah, well,

00:04:34.400 of course it is

00:04:35.120 because it's the majority.

00:04:36.820 It's the majority.

00:04:37.500 When is the majority

00:04:38.460 ever wrong?

00:04:39.620 They get what they want

00:04:41.140 and they just implement

00:04:42.940 whatever that is

00:04:43.940 on the minority

00:04:44.980 and that's better now

00:04:46.820 on the left's eyes?

00:04:47.760 That's interesting.

00:04:49.320 I guess I...

00:04:50.200 They were complaining

00:04:51.020 about the opposite

00:04:51.640 for a very long time.

00:04:53.420 Well, maybe.

00:04:55.120 But now it's different.

00:04:56.980 You know,

00:04:57.160 we have, I guess,

00:04:57.940 social media,

00:04:58.880 you know,

00:04:59.280 and we have fake meat now.

00:05:02.280 So the founders

00:05:03.200 couldn't have seen

00:05:03.840 the fake meat thing going on.

00:05:06.340 Maybe not,

00:05:06.880 but still,

00:05:07.220 I don't know why

00:05:07.780 that would have anything

00:05:08.440 to do with this.

00:05:08.800 So that's the tyranny

00:05:09.840 of the majority

00:05:10.780 when you get 51%

00:05:12.380 that tells everyone else

00:05:14.500 exactly how to live.

00:05:16.960 Now,

00:05:17.740 tyranny of the minority

00:05:19.260 would be things like,

00:05:21.620 I have to change

00:05:23.900 my whole life.

00:05:27.660 I have to change

00:05:28.440 all my values.

00:05:30.700 I have to change,

00:05:32.360 you know,

00:05:34.160 maybe worried

00:05:35.860 about my daughter

00:05:36.940 going into sports

00:05:38.720 or going into a locker room

00:05:41.000 or going into a bathroom.

00:05:42.580 I have to worry

00:05:43.560 about my wife

00:05:44.300 going into a bathroom

00:05:45.260 because a very,

00:05:46.480 very, very,

00:05:47.160 very, very small minority

00:05:49.640 says that they are something

00:05:53.600 they are scientifically not.

00:05:56.360 And so I have to worry

00:05:59.600 about the minority

00:06:01.660 because the minority,

00:06:03.760 a very small minority,

00:06:05.960 is now subjecting

00:06:08.960 the majority

00:06:10.180 to their beliefs.

00:06:12.380 And you must comply.

00:06:16.140 Just like when you have 51%,

00:06:18.480 and you must comply.

00:06:22.280 That's what makes our,

00:06:24.380 if I may use the words

00:06:25.640 of the Harvard doctor,

00:06:28.080 I'm a doctor too.

00:06:31.320 It makes his point,

00:06:35.080 his claim about the republic,

00:06:39.640 invalid.

00:06:40.580 Because, yes,

00:06:41.620 that is exactly

00:06:42.820 what a democracy gives you.

00:06:45.620 We are a representative republic.

00:06:49.680 So it's a balance

00:06:51.460 to slow government down

00:06:53.980 from doing anything.

00:06:56.620 It's to slow it down.

00:06:59.000 Why?

00:06:59.680 Why is a slow government good?

00:07:02.100 A slow government is good

00:07:03.580 because it can't react quickly

00:07:06.820 to anything.

00:07:08.520 So, in other words,

00:07:09.800 you have to stop and think,

00:07:12.020 should we do the Patriot Act?

00:07:15.660 And hopefully,

00:07:17.500 there's enough checks and balances

00:07:19.660 that the answer comes back,

00:07:22.020 no.

00:07:23.020 It's a violation of everyone's rights.

00:07:26.540 In our constitutional republic,

00:07:28.840 we have something called

00:07:30.540 the Bill of Rights

00:07:31.660 that is supposed to stop

00:07:33.880 the bullying of the majority

00:07:37.720 and the minority.

00:07:40.520 Now,

00:07:41.600 they'll say,

00:07:42.380 oh no,

00:07:43.180 the left has

00:07:44.340 all of the power,

00:07:46.380 so you better,

00:07:47.340 you better be nice,

00:07:48.440 you better shut up,

00:07:49.360 or they'll come and get you.

00:07:50.740 The reason why

00:07:53.000 Americans have never been afraid

00:07:55.340 of bullies

00:07:56.200 is because

00:07:57.320 we have rights.

00:08:00.460 And those rights

00:08:01.960 cannot be changed

00:08:04.280 or taken away

00:08:05.360 by anybody

00:08:06.740 in government,

00:08:08.340 minority

00:08:09.200 or majority.

00:08:11.080 We have rights.

00:08:13.320 those rights

00:08:14.900 are supposed to

00:08:15.700 chain the government.

00:08:17.360 Think of the government

00:08:18.180 as a rabid dog.

00:08:21.740 Because that's what it is

00:08:23.260 right now.

00:08:24.120 A rabid dog

00:08:25.520 at the end of its chain.

00:08:28.560 And it will,

00:08:31.220 it will eat anyone

00:08:33.320 that gets in its way.

00:08:39.880 Why?

00:08:41.360 Not because of

00:08:42.180 democracy.

00:08:46.680 Not even because

00:08:47.680 of the Constitution.

00:08:48.540 It is the amendments

00:08:50.800 to the Constitution

00:08:52.420 that state clearly.

00:08:56.980 They were written

00:08:57.740 a year after

00:08:59.420 the Constitution.

00:09:01.120 Because our

00:09:02.100 oh so dusty

00:09:03.120 out of touch

00:09:04.300 founders

00:09:05.060 knew

00:09:06.140 that over time

00:09:08.160 people in politics

00:09:09.820 and people who wanted power

00:09:11.540 would violate

00:09:13.060 people's rights.

00:09:15.300 And so they wanted

00:09:15.940 to make sure

00:09:17.040 that the most

00:09:19.120 important rights,

00:09:20.900 five of the most

00:09:22.520 important rights

00:09:23.380 are in the

00:09:23.840 First Amendment.

00:09:26.200 Government

00:09:26.920 cannot

00:09:27.860 violate

00:09:28.980 these rights.

00:09:30.440 Let's spell it out

00:09:31.580 as clearly

00:09:32.360 as possible

00:09:33.240 for those

00:09:34.240 who wish

00:09:34.920 to confuse,

00:09:36.580 delude,

00:09:37.540 or out and out

00:09:38.540 lie

00:09:39.180 to the American

00:09:40.060 people.

00:09:41.260 Let's write it out

00:09:42.520 clearly.

00:09:43.860 Government in

00:09:44.580 this country,

00:09:45.620 unlike every other

00:09:46.580 country,

00:09:47.460 cannot do

00:09:48.660 these things.

00:09:53.060 So no,

00:09:54.540 Mr. Harvard

00:09:55.160 Professor.

00:09:56.280 I tend to

00:09:57.860 disagree with you

00:09:59.020 with every fiber

00:10:00.760 of my being.

00:10:02.020 It's not

00:10:04.500 outdated.

00:10:05.940 We haven't

00:10:06.860 used it

00:10:07.660 since your

00:10:08.680 heroes

00:10:09.940 of Woodrow

00:10:11.520 Wilson

00:10:12.060 and House

00:10:13.600 and FDR

00:10:14.520 took and

00:10:15.700 peed all over

00:10:16.720 that.

00:10:18.520 The discrediting

00:10:20.140 of this

00:10:20.840 constitution

00:10:21.480 began with

00:10:22.320 the progressives

00:10:23.200 who,

00:10:24.260 by the way,

00:10:25.760 were communists

00:10:27.060 who just

00:10:28.220 didn't believe

00:10:29.220 in a bloody

00:10:29.820 revolution.

00:10:30.520 They wanted

00:10:31.820 the same

00:10:32.460 thing,

00:10:33.540 just no

00:10:34.660 bloody

00:10:35.200 revolution.

00:10:37.000 That's what

00:10:38.180 progressivism

00:10:39.500 actually is.

00:10:41.240 And for

00:10:41.580 anybody who's

00:10:42.480 like,

00:10:42.720 that's not

00:10:43.180 true,

00:10:43.680 well then

00:10:44.080 tell me

00:10:44.620 what we're

00:10:45.200 going toward.

00:10:47.040 Because I

00:10:47.760 don't think

00:10:48.160 we're going

00:10:48.580 towards a

00:10:49.160 freer world.

00:10:50.360 I don't

00:10:50.700 think we're

00:10:51.080 headed towards

00:10:51.640 a better

00:10:52.220 world.

00:10:54.660 It seems

00:10:55.640 to me,

00:10:56.100 if you

00:10:56.440 stand in

00:10:57.240 the way,

00:10:58.480 the minority

00:10:59.360 or the

00:11:00.040 majority

00:11:00.640 will cut

00:11:01.880 you down.

00:11:06.380 Let us

00:11:07.360 raise a

00:11:07.840 standard

00:11:08.260 that the

00:11:09.640 wise and

00:11:10.360 the honest

00:11:11.040 can repair.

00:11:13.040 George

00:11:13.460 Washington,

00:11:14.880 end of the

00:11:15.460 Constitutional

00:11:16.340 Convention.

00:11:17.920 Let us

00:11:18.420 rise a

00:11:19.260 standard

00:11:19.960 where people

00:11:23.180 can come

00:11:23.900 and find

00:11:25.140 shelter under.

00:11:26.420 and they

00:11:28.040 did.

00:11:30.020 And currently

00:11:30.760 your government

00:11:31.620 is not

00:11:32.440 abiding by

00:11:33.200 that

00:11:33.480 Constitution.

00:11:34.960 And your

00:11:35.560 professors,

00:11:37.600 that all

00:11:38.360 of us,

00:11:39.600 not me,

00:11:40.280 thank God,

00:11:40.780 I learned

00:11:41.160 my lesson,

00:11:42.380 all of us

00:11:43.340 are paying

00:11:44.800 for our

00:11:45.400 children to

00:11:46.520 go into

00:11:47.000 these

00:11:47.280 indoctrination

00:11:48.320 camps.

00:11:49.660 This is

00:11:50.500 the best

00:11:51.100 of the

00:11:51.460 Glenn Beck

00:11:51.780 program.

00:11:52.780 Hello,

00:11:53.160 Megan,

00:11:53.500 how are you?

00:11:54.780 Hi,

00:11:55.200 I'm well,

00:11:55.540 how are you

00:11:55.740 doing?

00:11:55.940 Very good.

00:11:57.380 So your

00:11:58.220 interview and

00:12:00.260 the interview

00:12:00.680 that the

00:12:01.120 president did

00:12:01.780 on MSNBC

00:12:02.800 are getting

00:12:04.440 a lot of

00:12:05.160 play over

00:12:06.080 the weekend

00:12:06.640 because in

00:12:09.300 some places

00:12:10.820 he seemed to

00:12:11.600 be hedging

00:12:12.100 his bet,

00:12:12.680 and on

00:12:13.120 MSNBC he

00:12:15.680 talked about

00:12:16.440 a 15-week

00:12:17.720 limit on

00:12:19.560 abortions.

00:12:21.320 Yeah,

00:12:21.740 well,

00:12:22.840 this is one

00:12:24.140 of the reasons

00:12:24.560 why President

00:12:25.180 Trump needs

00:12:26.280 to put

00:12:26.560 himself out

00:12:27.060 there more

00:12:27.520 because just

00:12:28.960 like President

00:12:29.500 Baseman,

00:12:30.380 it's not okay

00:12:31.160 for either one

00:12:31.920 of these leading

00:12:32.400 candidates on

00:12:33.000 the Dem or

00:12:33.580 the GOP

00:12:34.120 side to

00:12:35.220 stay underground.

00:12:36.240 So to his

00:12:37.060 credit,

00:12:37.700 Trump is putting

00:12:38.200 himself out

00:12:38.740 there much,

00:12:39.460 much more

00:12:39.820 than Joe

00:12:40.200 Biden,

00:12:40.520 but we

00:12:41.160 absolutely need

00:12:42.440 to be probing

00:12:43.160 their positions

00:12:43.920 Republicans as

00:12:44.940 the American

00:12:45.380 public tries to

00:12:46.540 make a decision.

00:12:47.460 And Trump

00:12:47.940 on the social

00:12:48.660 issues,

00:12:49.420 with all due

00:12:50.220 credit for the

00:12:50.920 Supreme Court

00:12:51.340 justices we got,

00:12:52.800 has always been

00:12:53.680 a little wishy-washy.

00:12:55.080 He's lived

00:12:55.660 pretty much

00:12:56.840 75 years,

00:12:58.260 he's 77 now,

00:12:59.120 I guess 73,

00:12:59.880 whatever it is,

00:13:00.360 before he became

00:13:00.780 president,

00:13:01.080 as a Democrat.

00:13:02.700 You know,

00:13:03.120 one of my debate

00:13:04.280 questions for him

00:13:05.020 back in 2016

00:13:05.980 was,

00:13:06.980 when did you

00:13:07.460 become a Republican?

00:13:08.580 Because if you

00:13:09.400 look back at his

00:13:10.020 life,

00:13:10.280 he's been much,

00:13:11.340 much more of a

00:13:12.200 Democrat and

00:13:13.040 more liberal

00:13:13.860 on social issues,

00:13:14.940 like virtually

00:13:15.980 everyone in

00:13:16.840 New York City

00:13:17.360 is.

00:13:18.280 And I think

00:13:18.840 there's still a

00:13:19.380 fair amount of

00:13:19.940 that in him.

00:13:21.400 So is this,

00:13:22.560 for instance,

00:13:23.660 let me play a

00:13:24.500 clip with you

00:13:26.140 where he was

00:13:27.800 talking about

00:13:28.680 can a man

00:13:30.140 become pregnant?

00:13:31.700 Play it.

00:13:32.980 Can a man

00:13:33.440 become a woman?

00:13:36.180 Um,

00:13:37.420 in my opinion,

00:13:40.360 you have a man,

00:13:40.960 you have a woman.

00:13:41.760 I,

00:13:42.120 I think,

00:13:43.300 I think part of

00:13:44.380 it is birth.

00:13:45.360 Can the man

00:13:46.100 give birth?

00:13:46.820 No,

00:13:47.680 no.

00:13:48.120 Although they'll

00:13:48.540 come up with

00:13:49.040 some answer to

00:13:49.640 that also.

00:13:50.360 Someday I heard

00:13:51.120 just the other

00:13:51.660 day,

00:13:52.140 they have a way

00:13:53.140 that now the

00:13:53.860 man can give

00:13:54.580 birth.

00:13:55.000 No,

00:13:55.280 I would say,

00:13:56.080 uh,

00:13:56.680 uh,

00:13:57.480 I'll continue

00:13:58.340 my stance on

00:13:59.200 that.

00:14:00.160 So what,

00:14:01.400 what was your

00:14:01.900 takeaway?

00:14:02.340 Because he never

00:14:03.020 really answered it,

00:14:04.160 but he did shake

00:14:04.900 his head no

00:14:05.700 towards the beginning.

00:14:07.220 What's your

00:14:07.800 takeaway from that?

00:14:09.360 Well,

00:14:09.620 I thought it was

00:14:10.120 weak sauce.

00:14:10.960 I really wish

00:14:12.080 he,

00:14:12.420 he did better

00:14:13.320 on that.

00:14:13.800 I like Ron

00:14:14.300 DeSantis's answer.

00:14:15.300 I'm going to be

00:14:15.720 honest,

00:14:16.700 which is no,

00:14:18.240 no,

00:14:18.680 right?

00:14:19.360 No,

00:14:20.160 no,

00:14:21.240 obviously no.

00:14:22.540 And it's not

00:14:23.340 determined based

00:14:24.780 on who can

00:14:25.580 give birth.

00:14:27.800 It's determined

00:14:28.620 by God.

00:14:29.360 And it's pretty

00:14:30.060 obvious just as

00:14:30.760 soon as you come

00:14:31.200 out of the womb.

00:14:32.000 That's the way

00:14:32.640 it's always been.

00:14:33.260 That's the way

00:14:33.580 it continues to be

00:14:34.300 notwithstanding

00:14:34.860 this weird agenda

00:14:35.780 by some activists

00:14:36.900 in this crazy

00:14:38.660 trans agenda

00:14:40.040 pushing cult.

00:14:41.860 So Trump

00:14:42.900 clearly knows

00:14:44.160 that.

00:14:44.680 I don't know

00:14:44.960 if he's got,

00:14:45.860 if he's trying

00:14:46.340 to like appease

00:14:47.200 some group

00:14:48.280 of trans voters

00:14:49.740 that he thinks

00:14:50.740 is going to make

00:14:51.280 the difference

00:14:51.800 with him.

00:14:52.240 Even when I had

00:14:53.300 Don Jr.

00:14:54.220 on my show,

00:14:55.160 he was kind

00:14:56.560 of dancing

00:14:57.040 around this issue.

00:14:58.060 I think that

00:14:59.000 they think

00:15:00.360 they're somehow

00:15:01.480 going to do

00:15:02.080 better with

00:15:03.080 Democrats

00:15:03.920 if they don't

00:15:04.800 hit this

00:15:05.400 straight on,

00:15:07.040 even though,

00:15:08.100 I mean,

00:15:08.660 98% of the

00:15:09.900 Republican Party

00:15:10.540 is united

00:15:11.060 on this issue.

00:15:11.860 This is not,

00:15:12.780 it is not a winner

00:15:13.740 for any Republican

00:15:15.000 to hedge on this.

00:15:16.900 Just ask Asa Hutchinson.

00:15:18.780 So I'm not sure

00:15:20.020 what he's thinking.

00:15:20.840 I feel like this

00:15:21.580 and the abortion thing,

00:15:23.140 he must be thinking

00:15:23.960 more general election

00:15:25.000 where there are Democrats

00:15:26.200 who don't feel

00:15:27.000 as Republicans do.

00:15:28.640 But I really think

00:15:30.240 there's such a small

00:15:30.960 voting group

00:15:31.480 on this particular issue.

00:15:32.540 He needs a better answer

00:15:33.380 and I hope

00:15:33.800 he gets it soon.

00:15:34.500 So,

00:15:35.020 do you think

00:15:35.640 this will shake

00:15:37.280 the tree at all?

00:15:38.700 I mean,

00:15:38.940 I think he looks

00:15:40.260 at the poll numbers

00:15:41.160 and thinks there's,

00:15:43.280 I mean,

00:15:43.580 I'm going to win.

00:15:45.140 So why not start

00:15:46.620 a moderate campaign

00:15:48.460 now?

00:15:49.540 Because I'm going

00:15:50.360 to win

00:15:50.780 the primary.

00:15:53.000 So let's just

00:15:53.540 get past that

00:15:54.180 and just start

00:15:54.720 being,

00:15:55.180 you know,

00:15:55.640 more moderate

00:15:56.260 to appeal

00:15:57.020 to a wider audience

00:15:58.320 than just the Republicans.

00:15:59.820 Do you think

00:16:00.140 that's going to work?

00:16:03.380 I don't.

00:16:04.220 I mean,

00:16:04.400 I'm much more

00:16:05.040 in the Ann Coulter

00:16:05.960 field of thinking

00:16:07.100 when it comes

00:16:07.900 to who the party

00:16:09.420 should nominate.

00:16:10.240 I think they should

00:16:11.100 nominate somebody

00:16:11.720 who's going to

00:16:12.100 drive turnout.

00:16:12.920 And generally

00:16:13.680 with Republicans,

00:16:14.320 that means someone

00:16:15.000 who is conservative,

00:16:16.060 who is genuinely

00:16:16.780 conservative.

00:16:17.760 Look at what happened

00:16:18.460 with John McCain.

00:16:20.000 Okay?

00:16:20.700 Like,

00:16:21.240 they've tried

00:16:22.120 to go more moderate.

00:16:23.260 It doesn't work.

00:16:25.400 Now,

00:16:25.940 Trump does drive

00:16:27.040 turnout

00:16:27.420 because he's Trump

00:16:29.300 and there's something

00:16:30.100 about him that,

00:16:30.880 you know,

00:16:31.020 his core constituency

00:16:31.900 finds very appealing

00:16:32.820 and, you know,

00:16:33.960 that 30%

00:16:34.660 isn't going to

00:16:35.340 abandon him

00:16:36.020 even if he comes out

00:16:37.180 and says he wants

00:16:37.700 abortions in the ninth month.

00:16:39.380 I mean,

00:16:39.800 that's really the question,

00:16:42.080 not whether he can

00:16:42.660 shoot somebody

00:16:43.120 on Fifth Avenue.

00:16:44.180 But could Trump say

00:16:44.920 that he's pro-abortion

00:16:46.040 ninth month

00:16:46.740 and still hold on

00:16:47.880 to that core 30%?

00:16:49.620 Glenn,

00:16:49.840 I think the answer is yes.

00:16:51.880 And he's almost

00:16:52.780 toying with that

00:16:53.880 experiment right now.

00:16:55.320 He's not pro-abortion

00:16:56.180 ninth month.

00:16:57.040 He's really more

00:16:57.660 banking on the fact

00:16:58.640 that he appointed

00:16:59.480 the three justices

00:17:00.300 who made the difference

00:17:00.980 on Roe v. Wade

00:17:01.760 and he's not

00:17:03.220 going to lose

00:17:03.740 any Republican voters

00:17:04.880 to Joe Biden

00:17:06.400 on the issue

00:17:07.480 of abortion,

00:17:08.420 right?

00:17:08.660 He's playing the long game.

00:17:10.000 But he does need

00:17:10.740 to generate enthusiasm

00:17:11.620 and it's already

00:17:13.220 tamped down,

00:17:13.980 not in that 30%

00:17:14.900 of Republicans,

00:17:15.480 but the other half

00:17:16.520 who are tepid

00:17:18.420 on Trump.

00:17:20.100 So let me ask you

00:17:20.800 about Joe Biden

00:17:22.160 here for a second

00:17:22.880 because I've

00:17:25.640 started to see,

00:17:27.320 for instance,

00:17:27.960 there was an article

00:17:29.560 in the Washington Post

00:17:30.900 from a big player

00:17:33.460 on the left

00:17:34.760 and in the editorial

00:17:37.100 he said,

00:17:38.040 you know,

00:17:38.360 I love Joe Biden

00:17:39.720 and he's done

00:17:40.320 great things

00:17:41.100 and nothing against

00:17:42.160 anything he's ever done,

00:17:43.820 but I think it's time

00:17:45.460 for him to go.

00:17:47.360 And I think

00:17:48.140 that you see

00:17:49.660 the supporters

00:17:51.140 and the key members

00:17:54.980 possibly starting

00:17:56.500 to move in

00:17:57.140 and saying,

00:17:57.640 you know,

00:17:57.840 Joe,

00:17:58.040 I think maybe

00:17:58.640 you should go.

00:17:59.680 Do you think

00:18:00.160 he is the candidate

00:18:02.640 by the time

00:18:04.380 we get to

00:18:04.920 the election?

00:18:08.320 I don't know,

00:18:09.480 Glenn.

00:18:10.020 I'm seeing

00:18:10.740 what you're seeing.

00:18:12.140 It seems like

00:18:12.920 there's a movement

00:18:13.620 underfoot

00:18:14.420 to gently oust him

00:18:16.180 and her.

00:18:17.100 That was what was

00:18:17.580 interesting

00:18:17.900 in WAPO,

00:18:20.420 which was

00:18:20.780 they both need to go.

00:18:22.380 We don't want

00:18:22.720 to be stuck with her.

00:18:24.500 But, you know,

00:18:25.620 live by the sword,

00:18:26.440 die by the sword.

00:18:27.100 They selected her

00:18:28.080 for identity politics

00:18:28.980 reasons and good luck

00:18:30.220 subbing her out

00:18:31.340 and subbing in

00:18:32.920 some other dem

00:18:33.900 like Gavin Newsom,

00:18:35.220 you know,

00:18:35.360 who doesn't check

00:18:35.880 the right boxes

00:18:36.540 and even who does

00:18:37.520 check the right boxes.

00:18:38.940 Sonny Hofton,

00:18:40.240 woke identity politics

00:18:41.320 warrior over on The View

00:18:42.480 was saying,

00:18:43.120 if he subs out

00:18:44.260 Kamala Harris,

00:18:45.140 he's going to lose

00:18:45.660 the black vote.

00:18:46.400 We're not interchangeable,

00:18:47.580 even if he puts back

00:18:48.460 in a black woman.

00:18:50.340 But in any event,

00:18:51.080 you can feel

00:18:52.200 the ground shifting.

00:18:53.640 CNN doing a long

00:18:54.660 fact check

00:18:55.400 on Biden's lives

00:18:56.720 last Thursday.

00:18:58.080 I've never seen them

00:18:59.100 unleash their Daniel Dale

00:19:00.860 guy on Biden.

00:19:02.140 That was always

00:19:02.700 a Trump thing.

00:19:04.300 Now more and more

00:19:05.460 sort of getting interested

00:19:06.880 in just how old

00:19:08.260 President Biden is

00:19:09.340 and polling heavily on it

00:19:10.600 and the results

00:19:11.100 are disastrous.

00:19:12.400 The Ignatius piece,

00:19:14.140 there's been

00:19:14.540 just example

00:19:15.740 after example

00:19:16.380 of how they seem

00:19:17.120 to be realizing,

00:19:18.280 you know what?

00:19:20.060 He can't do it.

00:19:21.640 We're going to lose

00:19:22.560 if we stick with him.

00:19:24.340 But I also think

00:19:26.040 you have to ask

00:19:27.040 yourself realistically,

00:19:28.820 how do you get rid of him?

00:19:30.460 You know,

00:19:30.660 I think there's some fantasy

00:19:31.540 that Barack Obama

00:19:32.360 could do it.

00:19:33.380 He could come get,

00:19:34.040 you know,

00:19:34.180 like give him a tap

00:19:35.060 on the shoulder

00:19:35.600 like you'd get

00:19:36.320 at the dance.

00:19:38.280 Time to sit down.

00:19:39.700 Your dancing's over.

00:19:41.560 I'm not sure.

00:19:42.920 Well,

00:19:43.120 it's exactly.

00:19:44.080 What man voluntarily

00:19:45.180 walks away from power

00:19:46.300 like that?

00:19:47.620 Well,

00:19:48.420 voluntarily,

00:19:49.640 George Washington.

00:19:51.380 But remember

00:19:52.320 that Nixon did that

00:19:54.260 and Nixon only did it

00:19:56.660 when he realized

00:19:57.980 the party

00:19:58.620 was no longer with him.

00:20:00.140 When all of the people

00:20:01.740 he counted on

00:20:02.780 to help support him

00:20:05.140 were turning on him.

00:20:06.860 And that's when

00:20:07.780 he decided to resign.

00:20:09.200 There's a good way

00:20:10.320 to do this

00:20:11.020 and there is

00:20:12.000 the tough way.

00:20:13.040 And we're offering you

00:20:14.320 the chance to make

00:20:15.220 this your idea.

00:20:17.120 And I think

00:20:19.380 part of the pressure

00:20:20.520 might be

00:20:21.520 the Hunter Biden

00:20:23.460 scandal.

00:20:24.340 When you saw

00:20:25.520 the charges

00:20:28.320 last week,

00:20:29.760 are these real

00:20:30.680 or are these bogus too?

00:20:33.680 The gun charges?

00:20:34.580 Yes.

00:20:36.080 I mean,

00:20:36.520 look,

00:20:36.780 they're real

00:20:37.460 in that he did it

00:20:38.420 and any one of us

00:20:39.280 would have been

00:20:39.760 charged for it.

00:20:41.120 So,

00:20:41.400 okay.

00:20:42.080 But of course,

00:20:42.620 they were brought

00:20:43.220 very reluctantly

00:20:44.240 by a guy

00:20:44.920 who's on his side.

00:20:46.780 David Weiss,

00:20:47.840 the U.S.

00:20:48.260 Attorney for Delaware,

00:20:49.060 is on Hunter Biden's side.

00:20:51.200 He's the man

00:20:51.900 who's been investigating

00:20:52.780 him for six years,

00:20:54.300 who let the most

00:20:55.820 damning charges expire

00:20:57.140 under the statute

00:20:57.880 of limitations,

00:20:58.980 even though Hunter's

00:21:00.060 lawyers offered

00:21:01.320 what's called

00:21:01.800 a tolling agreement.

00:21:02.960 They offered

00:21:03.580 to extend

00:21:04.600 the statute

00:21:05.560 of limitations

00:21:06.160 and David Weiss

00:21:07.100 said,

00:21:07.920 nah,

00:21:08.620 that's okay.

00:21:09.700 This is his prosecutor,

00:21:11.320 so we're supposed

00:21:11.940 to believe now

00:21:12.660 he's going

00:21:12.940 to be tough

00:21:13.360 on Hunter.

00:21:14.540 B.S.,

00:21:14.960 it was a fig leaf

00:21:16.020 charge

00:21:16.860 on only the gun

00:21:18.120 statute,

00:21:19.300 which,

00:21:19.560 by the way,

00:21:20.500 a lot of people

00:21:20.980 think won't even

00:21:21.660 hold up.

00:21:22.440 This gun statute's

00:21:23.340 been deemed

00:21:23.680 unconstitutional

00:21:24.500 under the Second

00:21:25.460 Amendment,

00:21:26.400 and so it's possible

00:21:27.680 they could go away

00:21:28.320 on constitutional grounds

00:21:29.260 that would probably

00:21:29.760 be acceptable

00:21:30.320 to most Republicans.

00:21:32.040 So it's kind of

00:21:32.900 a low-stakes matter.

00:21:34.100 But let's say

00:21:34.820 he gets convicted,

00:21:37.240 which he probably

00:21:38.100 will.

00:21:39.300 Some are saying

00:21:40.180 this is a smart

00:21:40.780 move by the

00:21:41.320 Republicans

00:21:41.700 because at least

00:21:43.500 now Hunter and

00:21:44.980 Joe have real

00:21:45.660 skin in the game.

00:21:46.940 He could potentially

00:21:47.800 face jail time,

00:21:48.860 and maybe it gives

00:21:49.980 Dems like Obama

00:21:51.060 and the party

00:21:52.080 leaders on the

00:21:52.740 Dem side the power

00:21:54.240 to go to Joe

00:21:54.900 and say,

00:21:55.540 do it for Hunter.

00:21:57.360 You'll pardon him

00:21:58.460 while announcing

00:21:59.640 you're just a

00:22:00.140 one-termer.

00:22:00.960 You can give

00:22:01.700 your son the pardon,

00:22:02.520 keep him out of jail,

00:22:03.840 save the Democrat

00:22:04.640 party,

00:22:05.420 you'll be on

00:22:06.060 Mount Rushmore,

00:22:07.240 and you can

00:22:08.120 save the whole

00:22:08.700 family.

00:22:09.600 Yes.

00:22:10.280 But you know

00:22:10.900 what?

00:22:11.340 If that's the

00:22:11.900 price it takes

00:22:12.440 to get him

00:22:12.780 out of there,

00:22:13.320 let's do it.

00:22:17.460 So be as

00:22:19.460 tough on this

00:22:21.700 as you can be.

00:22:23.340 When you see

00:22:24.740 the left

00:22:27.320 saying there's

00:22:28.520 no evidence,

00:22:29.640 there's no

00:22:30.220 evidence,

00:22:30.700 they've got no

00:22:31.620 evidence,

00:22:32.200 there's plenty

00:22:33.040 of evidence.

00:22:33.920 I don't know

00:22:34.360 if that all

00:22:34.960 adds up to

00:22:35.800 proof,

00:22:37.240 but there's

00:22:38.060 tons of

00:22:38.860 evidence.

00:22:39.960 If you were

00:22:40.380 standing in

00:22:41.380 a court of

00:22:41.860 law,

00:22:42.100 because it's

00:22:42.560 what you

00:22:42.940 used to do,

00:22:44.020 and your

00:22:44.920 client was

00:22:46.460 Joe Biden

00:22:47.660 and Hunter

00:22:48.520 Biden,

00:22:49.380 and you saw

00:22:50.400 the evidence

00:22:51.160 that the

00:22:51.620 prosecution has

00:22:52.820 shown already,

00:22:53.760 and they say

00:22:54.280 there's more,

00:22:55.440 how would you

00:22:56.400 assess your

00:22:58.040 chance of

00:22:58.620 winning?

00:22:58.860 It would

00:23:01.040 depend on the

00:23:01.960 evidentiary

00:23:02.620 standard.

00:23:03.680 If it's

00:23:03.920 preponderance

00:23:04.480 of the

00:23:04.700 evidence,

00:23:05.100 where you

00:23:05.300 just have

00:23:05.600 to prove

00:23:06.120 51% more

00:23:07.160 likely than

00:23:08.240 49% not,

00:23:09.820 he's guilty.

00:23:10.920 If it's

00:23:11.340 beyond a

00:23:11.740 reasonable

00:23:11.980 doubt,

00:23:12.640 I would

00:23:12.940 acquit him.

00:23:13.840 So far,

00:23:14.820 so far,

00:23:15.480 but that's

00:23:16.300 only because

00:23:16.660 we haven't

00:23:16.980 gotten all

00:23:17.260 the bank

00:23:17.540 records,

00:23:18.080 which they're

00:23:18.460 about to

00:23:18.780 get.

00:23:21.360 It's more

00:23:22.000 than 51%

00:23:22.820 likely he did

00:23:23.440 this.

00:23:23.840 I mean,

00:23:23.940 I would

00:23:24.160 put it

00:23:24.440 more up

00:23:25.320 in the

00:23:25.560 60s,

00:23:26.040 but if

00:23:27.440 you're talking

00:23:27.800 about conviction

00:23:28.580 of a crime,

00:23:29.960 it's not

00:23:30.440 there yet.

00:23:31.360 And what

00:23:32.320 do the

00:23:32.600 bank records,

00:23:33.320 what are you

00:23:33.640 looking for

00:23:34.300 in the

00:23:34.540 bank records?

00:23:35.180 What do

00:23:35.320 they have

00:23:35.580 to show?

00:23:36.880 Well,

00:23:37.340 I mean,

00:23:37.660 I would

00:23:38.100 want to

00:23:38.340 see the

00:23:38.600 actual

00:23:38.860 deposits

00:23:39.320 of the

00:23:39.680 money,

00:23:39.980 but you

00:23:40.640 know,

00:23:40.840 into Joe

00:23:41.940 Biden's

00:23:42.300 accounts in

00:23:42.900 order to

00:23:43.260 actually

00:23:44.500 convict of

00:23:45.160 a crime.

00:23:46.380 But we

00:23:46.820 had Peter

00:23:47.220 Schweitzer on

00:23:47.720 the show

00:23:48.000 on Friday,

00:23:48.600 and he's,

00:23:49.020 of course,

00:23:49.760 the hunter

00:23:50.100 expert.

00:23:50.860 He was making

00:23:51.740 some very

00:23:52.340 interesting points

00:23:53.360 about how

00:23:54.040 in order

00:23:54.980 to show

00:23:55.420 bribery,

00:23:56.040 in order

00:23:56.260 to show

00:23:56.620 corruption,

00:23:57.740 you really

00:23:58.120 don't even

00:23:58.420 need to

00:23:58.720 show any

00:23:59.120 deposits

00:23:59.540 into Joe

00:24:00.000 Biden's

00:24:00.380 accounts.

00:24:01.220 Showing the

00:24:01.760 deposits into

00:24:02.400 Hunter Biden's

00:24:03.120 accounts is

00:24:03.540 enough,

00:24:03.900 not to mention

00:24:04.320 the other

00:24:04.640 eight family

00:24:05.180 members who

00:24:05.700 are on

00:24:06.100 the take.

00:24:07.240 You know,

00:24:07.440 I mean,

00:24:07.760 the benefit

00:24:08.560 to the

00:24:08.900 family member

00:24:09.500 is sufficient.

00:24:11.200 And this

00:24:11.700 kind of brings

00:24:12.300 me back to

00:24:12.760 where I'm

00:24:13.380 coming into

00:24:14.160 this whole

00:24:14.600 corruption

00:24:15.000 scandal.

00:24:15.940 I almost

00:24:16.420 feel like

00:24:16.920 Republicans are

00:24:18.960 overstating their

00:24:20.280 own burden.

00:24:21.820 You know,

00:24:22.220 it doesn't

00:24:23.060 need,

00:24:23.620 I realize

00:24:24.220 why they're

00:24:24.520 doing the

00:24:24.880 impeachment.

00:24:25.600 I'm actually

00:24:25.920 in favor of

00:24:26.460 it,

00:24:26.700 but it

00:24:27.960 doesn't need

00:24:28.500 to go that

00:24:28.980 route and

00:24:29.340 they don't

00:24:29.700 need to

00:24:30.100 allege

00:24:30.380 crimes.

00:24:31.260 The

00:24:31.380 corruption

00:24:31.840 is there

00:24:32.560 plain as

00:24:33.140 the nose

00:24:33.480 on your

00:24:33.780 face.

00:24:34.340 Yes.

00:24:34.800 I want

00:24:35.380 one,

00:24:36.120 one honest

00:24:37.740 journalist,

00:24:38.760 just one,

00:24:39.620 with access

00:24:40.280 to President

00:24:41.220 Biden to

00:24:42.160 get him in

00:24:42.900 an interview

00:24:43.460 and say,

00:24:44.380 how dare

00:24:45.500 you allow

00:24:46.520 your son

00:24:47.160 to sit on

00:24:48.080 the board

00:24:48.400 of Burisma,

00:24:49.120 a Ukrainian

00:24:49.680 company,

00:24:50.200 being

00:24:50.480 investigated

00:24:51.080 for

00:24:51.380 corruption

00:24:51.780 when you

00:24:52.980 were the

00:24:53.520 point man

00:24:54.040 on the

00:24:54.460 Obama

00:24:54.800 administration's

00:24:56.000 corruption

00:24:56.520 cleanup in

00:24:57.900 Ukraine?

00:24:58.920 How dare

00:24:59.600 you?

00:25:00.280 Is that

00:25:00.760 not disqualifying

00:25:02.100 to your

00:25:02.680 ongoing role

00:25:03.340 as a public

00:25:03.740 official?

00:25:04.760 Go ahead.

00:25:05.760 I think it

00:25:06.560 is.

00:25:06.840 We're not

00:25:07.120 going to see

00:25:07.580 that,

00:25:07.940 but I think

00:25:08.560 it is,

00:25:08.900 and I would

00:25:09.160 love to

00:25:09.640 see that.

00:25:10.280 I go a

00:25:11.200 step further.

00:25:11.960 As a

00:25:12.460 father,

00:25:13.820 you knew

00:25:14.580 who Kolomoisky

00:25:15.440 was.

00:25:16.100 He's a

00:25:16.640 brutal

00:25:17.580 killer.

00:25:18.220 He beheads

00:25:18.800 his opponents.

00:25:21.140 And you

00:25:22.140 took your

00:25:22.740 son who

00:25:23.300 you knew

00:25:24.220 had a

00:25:24.720 drug problem

00:25:25.320 and drinking

00:25:25.800 problem and

00:25:26.540 could easily

00:25:27.980 be roped

00:25:28.720 into anything

00:25:29.440 and you

00:25:30.060 allowed him

00:25:30.820 to sit

00:25:31.380 on that

00:25:33.420 board with

00:25:34.180 that man?

00:25:35.060 Are you

00:25:35.440 out of your

00:25:36.080 mind?

00:25:37.820 Right.

00:25:38.340 When he

00:25:39.100 was drug

00:25:39.940 adult.

00:25:40.720 We were

00:25:41.040 just looking

00:25:41.440 back at the

00:25:41.900 timeline on

00:25:43.440 Hunter's

00:25:44.540 addiction.

00:25:46.080 I actually

00:25:46.540 have this

00:25:46.880 right in

00:25:47.120 front of

00:25:47.320 me because

00:25:47.520 I was

00:25:47.660 looking at

00:25:48.100 it in

00:25:48.680 preparation

00:25:49.160 for my

00:25:49.540 show today.

00:25:50.580 So he

00:25:51.000 joined the

00:25:51.520 board of

00:25:51.880 Breweries

00:25:52.160 in April

00:25:52.980 2014.

00:25:55.260 That same

00:25:55.820 year, he

00:25:56.420 was just

00:25:56.900 discharged

00:25:57.500 from the

00:25:58.280 Navy

00:25:58.460 Reserve after

00:25:59.220 testing

00:25:59.540 positive for

00:26:00.600 cocaine.

00:26:01.280 That same

00:26:01.920 year when

00:26:02.680 he joined

00:26:03.120 the board,

00:26:04.040 which Joe

00:26:04.800 knows all

00:26:05.680 of this.

00:26:06.520 This is

00:26:06.860 while his

00:26:07.260 father was

00:26:07.660 overseeing

00:26:08.080 U.S.

00:26:08.380 policy in

00:26:09.080 Ukraine.

00:26:10.640 By May

00:26:11.800 of 15,

00:26:13.080 he had a

00:26:13.560 relapse on

00:26:14.080 his alcohol

00:26:14.520 addiction.

00:26:15.440 By 2016,

00:26:16.820 he had a

00:26:17.620 relapse of

00:26:18.120 his crack

00:26:18.860 cocaine addiction.

00:26:20.720 And this

00:26:20.980 is all

00:26:21.460 while he's

00:26:22.480 doing business

00:26:23.020 with the

00:26:23.800 Chinese energy

00:26:24.460 company,

00:26:24.900 CEFC,

00:26:25.580 while he's

00:26:25.920 on the

00:26:26.160 board of

00:26:26.480 Burisma,

00:26:27.400 which his

00:26:27.940 father knows

00:26:28.800 because he's

00:26:29.480 regularly calling

00:26:30.480 into the

00:26:30.920 Hunter business

00:26:31.480 meetings in

00:26:32.540 order to

00:26:32.840 lend a

00:26:33.140 Biden name.

00:26:33.880 He knows

00:26:34.400 his crack

00:26:35.520 addled son

00:26:36.660 is sitting on

00:26:37.840 these boards

00:26:38.400 cashing checks

00:26:39.620 and he's

00:26:40.660 facilitating it.

00:26:41.840 At a

00:26:43.080 minimum,

00:26:43.800 this

00:26:43.940 counteracts

00:26:44.580 the narrative

00:26:45.020 of what a

00:26:45.760 great dad

00:26:46.360 he is.

00:26:47.060 What a

00:26:47.240 great dad.

00:26:47.620 I agree.

00:26:48.660 I agree.

00:26:49.820 Megan,

00:26:50.260 thank you very

00:26:50.720 much.

00:26:51.000 We look forward

00:26:51.400 to your

00:26:51.780 program.

00:26:52.360 You can

00:26:52.560 catch Megan

00:26:53.140 Kelly wherever

00:26:53.800 you get your

00:26:54.360 podcast.

00:26:54.900 She also

00:26:55.220 follows this

00:26:55.880 show on

00:26:57.440 Sirius XM.

00:26:58.800 Thank you so

00:26:59.280 much.

00:27:00.220 You're listening

00:27:01.060 to the best of

00:27:01.940 the Glenn Beck

00:27:02.460 program.

00:27:03.680 Stu has been

00:27:04.480 hounding me all

00:27:05.240 day because he

00:27:06.180 says I have

00:27:07.420 something really

00:27:08.140 important to share

00:27:08.940 and it's

00:27:09.540 uplifting.

00:27:10.620 Yeah,

00:27:10.780 very uplifting.

00:27:11.460 Okay.

00:27:12.420 Would you like

00:27:12.940 to hear it?

00:27:13.280 Yeah,

00:27:13.520 I'd love to hear it.

00:27:13.860 You've been

00:27:14.180 avoiding it all

00:27:14.800 day.

00:27:15.060 I was concerned.

00:27:15.200 Well,

00:27:15.380 no,

00:27:15.520 go ahead.

00:27:16.020 Go ahead.

00:27:17.180 Well,

00:27:17.620 this is a great

00:27:18.560 story.

00:27:18.980 A woman named

00:27:19.780 Liss.

00:27:20.280 Liss.

00:27:20.720 Liss.

00:27:21.100 All right.

00:27:21.580 Made her

00:27:21.940 first ever

00:27:22.480 TikTok.

00:27:23.540 Okay.

00:27:23.940 Should we

00:27:24.320 have some

00:27:24.860 like music,

00:27:25.540 some happy

00:27:25.880 music behind

00:27:26.460 this?

00:27:26.840 I think that

00:27:27.360 would be,

00:27:27.860 I mean,

00:27:28.100 it would

00:27:28.400 certainly capture

00:27:29.280 the wonderful

00:27:30.200 story I'm about

00:27:32.380 to tell.

00:27:32.900 All right.

00:27:33.280 The story about

00:27:33.860 Liss.

00:27:34.240 Here we go.

00:27:34.960 Give it a shot.

00:27:40.020 No,

00:27:40.420 this is not.

00:27:41.000 No,

00:27:41.220 that's not good

00:27:42.200 music at all

00:27:42.700 for the story.

00:27:43.380 This is Liss.

00:27:44.160 All right.

00:27:44.460 Anyway,

00:27:44.820 go ahead.

00:27:45.100 And her first

00:27:45.340 ever.

00:27:47.420 No.

00:27:47.900 That's kind

00:27:48.000 of nice.

00:27:50.060 Okay,

00:27:50.380 sure.

00:27:50.620 Liss.

00:27:50.860 Okay.

00:27:51.040 So a woman

00:27:51.380 named Liss

00:27:51.960 made her

00:27:52.540 first ever

00:27:53.040 post on

00:27:53.600 TikTok.

00:27:54.220 TikTok.

00:27:54.840 In a powerful

00:27:55.600 way.

00:27:56.020 It is happy.

00:27:56.820 Which is a real

00:27:57.100 sentence in a

00:27:57.780 news story.

00:27:58.320 Yeah.

00:27:58.920 In a very

00:27:59.580 powerful way.

00:28:00.220 She made her

00:28:00.900 first ever post

00:28:01.640 on TikTok

00:28:02.080 in a powerful

00:28:02.980 way.

00:28:03.480 Wow.

00:28:04.380 Huh.

00:28:04.920 Sharing her

00:28:05.920 identity and

00:28:07.380 story.

00:28:08.560 And highlighting,

00:28:09.240 Glenn,

00:28:09.400 that there's

00:28:10.540 no wrong

00:28:11.360 time to

00:28:12.200 show up

00:28:12.820 in the

00:28:13.080 world as

00:28:13.700 your fullest,

00:28:15.040 most authentic

00:28:16.000 self.

00:28:17.040 Wow,

00:28:17.340 I have a

00:28:17.960 feeling this

00:28:19.380 is not

00:28:20.360 going to be

00:28:21.020 as happy as

00:28:22.200 I was expecting,

00:28:23.260 but maybe even

00:28:24.160 happier.

00:28:24.880 Maybe even

00:28:25.240 happier.

00:28:25.400 That's the way

00:28:26.360 to look at this.

00:28:26.780 Okay,

00:28:27.060 yeah.

00:28:27.420 So in her

00:28:28.040 TikTok post,

00:28:29.240 she said

00:28:30.520 her mom told

00:28:32.100 her at 11

00:28:33.500 years old,

00:28:34.460 we should

00:28:35.280 probably have

00:28:36.040 the talk.

00:28:36.800 Have the talk.

00:28:37.460 And we all

00:28:37.800 know what that

00:28:38.180 means.

00:28:38.540 The talk.

00:28:39.120 The talk.

00:28:40.080 Yeah.

00:28:40.240 We don't

00:28:40.420 talk about

00:28:40.800 the birds

00:28:41.320 and the bees.

00:28:42.320 Well,

00:28:42.560 yeah.

00:28:43.100 I mean,

00:28:43.820 maybe in your

00:28:44.980 weird world,

00:28:45.560 that's what

00:28:45.800 happened,

00:28:46.180 but in

00:28:47.100 Liss's world,

00:28:47.560 it was a little

00:28:47.860 different.

00:28:48.500 It was.

00:28:50.320 Liss was

00:28:50.960 apparently curious.

00:28:51.840 She said,

00:28:52.380 I was so

00:28:53.100 curious.

00:28:53.740 She was

00:28:53.920 bi-curious,

00:28:54.620 maybe even.

00:28:55.340 Yeah,

00:28:55.840 we didn't get to

00:28:56.440 that part of

00:28:56.760 the story.

00:28:57.080 All right.

00:28:57.520 So I was so

00:28:58.160 curious,

00:28:58.660 I was like,

00:28:59.540 I just want to

00:29:00.380 know,

00:29:00.720 when am I going

00:29:01.300 to get my

00:29:01.820 period?

00:29:03.340 Her mom,

00:29:03.940 she said that

00:29:04.820 to her mom.

00:29:05.300 Right.

00:29:05.500 When am I going

00:29:06.000 to get my

00:29:06.360 boobs?

00:29:06.820 Okay,

00:29:07.200 yeah.

00:29:07.520 When do I get

00:29:08.180 these tampons?

00:29:09.300 Right.

00:29:09.560 She wondered.

00:29:10.220 She wondered.

00:29:11.080 Yeah.

00:29:11.560 And her mom said,

00:29:12.640 well,

00:29:12.840 we have to have

00:29:13.380 a talk.

00:29:13.940 We have to

00:29:14.260 have a talk.

00:29:14.860 You have to

00:29:15.180 understand,

00:29:15.920 this is when

00:29:16.880 her mom

00:29:18.840 told Liss

00:29:20.100 that she was

00:29:21.420 biologically male.

00:29:27.100 Wait,

00:29:27.520 I don't under,

00:29:28.240 I don't,

00:29:28.900 I don't understand.

00:29:30.480 What do you

00:29:33.960 mean?

00:29:34.300 And then I

00:29:34.560 think that's

00:29:34.900 that same

00:29:35.440 horn and

00:29:35.980 happened.

00:29:37.200 So wait,

00:29:37.860 so does she

00:29:39.620 have male

00:29:40.220 parts?

00:29:40.920 Well,

00:29:41.640 that's a great

00:29:42.180 question.

00:29:43.020 It is.

00:29:43.740 Let me just

00:29:44.040 go on with

00:29:44.360 the story

00:29:44.780 and not

00:29:45.060 answer it.

00:29:46.020 Liss's mom

00:29:46.620 revealed that

00:29:47.420 she wouldn't

00:29:47.800 be going

00:29:48.160 through puberty,

00:29:49.660 not in the

00:29:50.520 way she

00:29:50.840 expected.

00:29:51.740 Right.

00:29:52.120 Liss

00:29:52.260 explained,

00:29:52.820 she sat

00:29:53.220 me down

00:29:53.540 at the

00:29:53.720 dining room

00:29:54.040 table,

00:29:54.480 all formal,

00:29:55.700 with a folder

00:29:56.280 of medical

00:29:56.820 information and

00:29:57.740 says,

00:29:58.620 you are

00:29:59.020 biologically male.

00:30:00.480 you're not

00:30:01.340 going to get

00:30:01.980 a period.

00:30:06.000 Again,

00:30:06.700 I'm having

00:30:07.220 a little

00:30:07.840 problem,

00:30:10.040 but you're

00:30:10.400 not going to

00:30:10.880 get a period.

00:30:12.000 You're not

00:30:12.700 going to

00:30:13.020 have kids.

00:30:14.540 You

00:30:14.800 are

00:30:16.260 intersex.

00:30:20.220 Again,

00:30:20.900 not what I

00:30:21.380 was expecting.

00:30:22.520 I'm not.

00:30:24.200 Now,

00:30:24.660 poor Liss

00:30:25.100 had a

00:30:25.360 visceral.

00:30:27.620 This is

00:30:28.100 actually the

00:30:28.600 perfect music.

00:30:29.060 It really

00:30:29.460 does go

00:30:30.020 every time.

00:30:31.360 Liss had a

00:30:32.080 visceral reaction

00:30:32.920 stating that

00:30:33.680 the wallpaper

00:30:34.360 on the wall

00:30:35.200 started to

00:30:35.860 melt off.

00:30:36.520 Yeah,

00:30:36.700 sure.

00:30:37.520 It would

00:30:38.320 surprise me.

00:30:39.680 I wouldn't

00:30:40.040 be expecting,

00:30:41.160 I mean,

00:30:41.440 I wouldn't

00:30:41.940 be,

00:30:42.220 but if

00:30:42.460 mom was

00:30:42.880 doing this

00:30:44.120 and she

00:30:44.420 brought up

00:30:44.740 medical,

00:30:45.120 I'm a

00:30:45.800 boy.

00:30:46.660 That's not

00:30:47.320 what mom

00:30:47.740 did.

00:30:48.080 It was

00:30:48.920 even more

00:30:49.600 shocking than

00:30:50.460 that.

00:30:51.240 You're

00:30:51.720 intersex.

00:30:52.660 Honestly,

00:30:53.880 I don't

00:30:54.260 know.

00:30:54.760 I don't

00:30:55.320 know what

00:30:56.960 is happening

00:30:57.700 in the

00:30:58.020 story.

00:30:58.500 I will

00:30:58.680 be honest

00:30:59.100 with you,

00:30:59.380 Glenn,

00:30:59.500 because my

00:31:00.160 first thought

00:31:00.580 was intersex,

00:31:01.620 that's like

00:31:02.200 what they

00:31:03.240 used to

00:31:03.500 call her

00:31:03.860 hermaphrodite,

00:31:04.360 which is now

00:31:04.660 a bad word

00:31:05.320 apparently.

00:31:06.360 The horn

00:31:10.100 gets me

00:31:10.520 every time.

00:31:11.920 So,

00:31:12.360 I don't

00:31:12.880 know.

00:31:13.760 That's what I

00:31:14.340 thought it

00:31:14.620 was,

00:31:14.920 because if

00:31:15.440 you read

00:31:15.820 this literally,

00:31:17.160 you would

00:31:17.500 say,

00:31:17.760 okay,

00:31:18.940 they did

00:31:19.440 not explain

00:31:23.640 to her,

00:31:24.260 I don't

00:31:25.640 know what

00:31:26.040 things look

00:31:27.700 like,

00:31:28.120 but at some

00:31:28.660 point it's

00:31:29.060 different down

00:31:29.780 there.

00:31:30.620 And her

00:31:31.340 mom,

00:31:31.860 I guess,

00:31:32.800 let her

00:31:33.080 believe she

00:31:33.980 was going

00:31:34.880 to have

00:31:35.240 all these

00:31:35.580 normal

00:31:36.180 female

00:31:38.220 puberty

00:31:38.880 moments.

00:31:39.300 Mom

00:31:39.780 shouldn't

00:31:40.100 have

00:31:40.240 eased into

00:31:42.200 this one.

00:31:42.900 But then I

00:31:44.720 don't really

00:31:45.140 understand,

00:31:45.600 because if

00:31:46.460 she's

00:31:46.680 biologically

00:31:47.320 male,

00:31:47.920 okay,

00:31:59.360 so she's

00:32:00.040 biologically

00:32:00.740 male,

00:32:01.400 and she

00:32:01.780 goes,

00:32:02.840 and apparently

00:32:03.580 goes through

00:32:04.420 this process.

00:32:04.940 So I'm

00:32:05.220 trying to

00:32:05.440 figure out,

00:32:05.960 like,

00:32:06.080 okay,

00:32:06.320 is she

00:32:06.760 like a

00:32:07.440 intersex,

00:32:08.920 meaning the

00:32:09.340 old school

00:32:10.040 hermaphrodite,

00:32:11.160 both parts.

00:32:11.920 And I don't know

00:32:12.020 that intersex

00:32:12.760 means that now.

00:32:13.720 Right,

00:32:14.020 well,

00:32:14.360 so I did

00:32:15.300 look it up.

00:32:15.900 Okay.

00:32:16.300 And so I

00:32:18.740 don't know,

00:32:19.340 because my

00:32:19.840 reading it,

00:32:20.660 really,

00:32:21.040 when I read

00:32:21.400 the details of

00:32:21.940 it,

00:32:22.020 I think what's

00:32:22.680 happening here,

00:32:23.200 she just

00:32:23.580 thought she

00:32:24.000 was a girl,

00:32:24.580 and her mom

00:32:25.600 sat her down

00:32:25.920 and was like,

00:32:26.180 hey,

00:32:26.640 you're a dude.

00:32:27.920 And she's

00:32:28.240 like,

00:32:28.400 wait,

00:32:28.580 I'm not

00:32:28.800 going to

00:32:28.920 get a period.

00:32:29.400 No,

00:32:29.720 because you're

00:32:29.980 a dude.

00:32:30.480 And then the

00:32:31.500 wallpaper started

00:32:32.340 melting or

00:32:32.900 something.

00:32:33.180 I don't

00:32:33.320 know.

00:32:34.580 This is not

00:32:36.060 the story you

00:32:36.800 really promised.

00:32:39.920 You know,

00:32:40.460 where the world

00:32:40.960 makes sense.

00:32:42.240 Oh,

00:32:42.460 I didn't say

00:32:43.040 that.

00:32:43.640 I definitely

00:32:44.260 didn't say

00:32:44.720 that.

00:32:45.000 I read too

00:32:45.820 far into

00:32:46.360 it.

00:32:46.800 She's turned

00:32:47.480 this into a

00:32:48.020 wonderful TikTok

00:32:48.800 career,

00:32:49.400 which of course

00:32:49.780 is how all

00:32:50.220 of these stories

00:32:50.740 end.

00:32:51.420 But intersex

00:32:52.240 is a naturally

00:32:53.940 occurring variation

00:32:55.100 in humans,

00:32:55.600 and it challenges

00:32:56.260 traditional binary

00:32:57.520 notions of male

00:32:59.100 and female bodies.

00:32:59.980 But listen to

00:33:00.360 this end part.

00:33:01.800 Medical,

00:33:02.880 ethical,

00:33:03.360 and social

00:33:04.100 discussions

00:33:04.980 continue on

00:33:07.180 how to best

00:33:07.860 approach intersex

00:33:09.040 variations with

00:33:10.340 a growing

00:33:11.120 emphasis on

00:33:12.840 human rights

00:33:13.700 and informed

00:33:15.060 consent.

00:33:17.360 What the

00:33:18.100 hell is that

00:33:18.720 mean?

00:33:19.220 Yeah,

00:33:19.300 I don't

00:33:19.900 know.

00:33:20.380 Are we

00:33:21.580 getting to

00:33:21.960 this point

00:33:22.320 where like

00:33:23.000 just like

00:33:24.920 all these

00:33:25.740 other letters

00:33:27.040 in the

00:33:27.360 LGBTQIA2

00:33:29.600 plus or

00:33:30.340 whatever they

00:33:30.860 are,

00:33:31.800 they're just

00:33:32.180 sort of like

00:33:32.880 states of

00:33:33.940 mental doubting

00:33:35.380 or maybe on

00:33:36.960 the other

00:33:37.140 hand,

00:33:37.440 certainty that

00:33:38.680 you're something

00:33:39.100 that you're

00:33:39.420 not,

00:33:39.800 right?

00:33:40.760 Like there's

00:33:41.440 just,

00:33:41.780 we just now

00:33:42.360 have people

00:33:42.860 who say

00:33:43.520 they're

00:33:43.920 non-binary,

00:33:45.100 whatever that

00:33:45.460 means,

00:33:46.440 because they

00:33:47.080 say they're

00:33:47.660 non-binary.

00:33:48.340 That's sort of

00:33:48.860 the definition

00:33:49.400 of non-binary.

00:33:50.620 Hang on,

00:33:50.980 hang on,

00:33:51.260 hang on.

00:33:51.940 Put the music

00:33:52.480 back.

00:33:53.140 That's true.

00:33:53.860 It works so much

00:33:54.600 better.

00:33:55.520 Makes me even

00:33:56.260 kind of happy.

00:33:58.860 Yeah.

00:33:59.400 Yeah.

00:33:59.680 So she

00:34:02.460 wound up

00:34:02.820 having to

00:34:03.180 take all

00:34:03.460 sorts of

00:34:03.860 hormones

00:34:04.460 to,

00:34:06.040 as she

00:34:07.540 says,

00:34:08.040 to kind

00:34:08.560 of simulate

00:34:09.200 a normal

00:34:11.800 puberty,

00:34:12.540 whatever that

00:34:13.040 means.

00:34:13.560 Right.

00:34:14.000 She went

00:34:14.420 on estrogen

00:34:15.200 at age

00:34:16.400 11,

00:34:17.720 but she

00:34:18.320 didn't develop

00:34:19.040 breasts until

00:34:19.880 age 22.

00:34:22.620 And she

00:34:23.340 noted there

00:34:24.880 isn't any

00:34:25.740 scientific

00:34:26.500 explanation as

00:34:27.520 to why things

00:34:28.780 happened the

00:34:29.280 way that they

00:34:29.660 did.

00:34:30.240 Okay.

00:34:31.000 I think she's

00:34:31.780 probably wrong

00:34:32.580 about that

00:34:33.160 last one.

00:34:34.600 Hey,

00:34:35.120 yeah,

00:34:36.040 yeah.

00:34:37.520 I'd like to

00:34:38.400 see if...

00:34:39.400 Na-na-na-na!

The Glenn Beck Program - September 18, 2023

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Megyn Kelly ｜ 9⧸18⧸23

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