The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Megyn Kelly & Sharyl Attkisson ｜ 5⧸12⧸20

00:00:00.000 Hey, podcasters, welcome to the program. It's Tuesday, a great, great show for you.

00:00:05.000 I mean, we talk about Elon Musk and his go ahead and arrest me attitude, which I absolutely love.

00:00:11.320 We have Cheryl Atkinson on who is talking about General Flynn and what's happening in Washington and the lies of the media.

00:00:17.500 And then we have an hour with Megyn Kelly, who just did the Tara Reid interview about accusing Joe Biden of sexual, not harassment, sexual assault. 0.99

00:00:31.560 Her interview is fascinating. And we get into also coronavirus and people that are protesting the coronavirus.

00:00:41.740 All of that on today's podcast. Don't miss a second of it.

00:00:47.500 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Glad you're here.

00:01:02.760 Here's a couple of things. I got to stop and talk about Elon Musk because I love this guy. I love him.

00:01:07.600 Now, remember, Elon Musk is a global warming guy. I mean, that's why he's that's why he's planning on going to Mars, because he's so convinced about global warming.

00:01:17.280 OK, so he's not exactly a conservative, but he's he is great. I just love him.

00:01:24.220 He's an entrepreneur. He is. He's Tony Stark. Let's be honest.

00:01:28.600 He is living the life of Tony Stark and using his money in all the ways that you would hope to use your money if you were really, really rich and a genius.

00:01:38.680 Well, he is in an argument now with California.

00:01:47.300 And California has said you can't open your your factory until when what are they saying the 20th or something like that?

00:01:57.160 And he says, I'm opening it up. I'm opening it up today. That's this is today.

00:02:02.800 And if you want to arrest me, go ahead. I'll be on the line.

00:02:07.680 So now California is really, really pissed at him because he's defying their orders.

00:02:15.420 And he said, I don't get authority from you.

00:02:18.560 Some some little coronavirus commission.

00:02:21.820 Nobody elected, you know, I'm running my company.

00:02:25.580 And so he's opening up the doors today.

00:02:28.540 Apparently, it has been crowded for the last few days as they started to come back online.

00:02:33.880 And he's threatening to move to Texas or Nevada, which I mean, you can move to Nevada, but you will be welcomed here in Texas, Mr. Musk.

00:02:46.080 Yeah, I understand that Newsom kind of gave him the go ahead.

00:02:50.160 And then it was some non-elected county official that said, no, you're not going you're not restarting that.

00:02:56.460 He's like, oh, are you?

00:02:58.600 No, I'm going to restart it.

00:03:01.160 So I think good for him.

00:03:03.100 I it's it's unconstitutional.

00:03:05.680 I hope they I I hope they arrest him.

00:03:08.520 I hope they do.

00:03:09.960 They won't.

00:03:10.700 I hope they do, because he has the money to make it into.

00:03:15.860 He's not going to shut up and he's not going to take it.

00:03:19.680 You know, what else is kind of cool about Elon Musk is he's the only billionaire hobo I know of.

00:03:25.800 He says he's going to be without a house.

00:03:27.740 He's getting rid of all of his possessions.

00:03:29.660 He's supposedly incredibly cash poor.

00:03:32.200 He's just a billionaire on paper.

00:03:34.300 I mean, he doesn't have apparently a lot of cash flow.

00:03:37.420 At least that's what they say.

00:03:38.420 And that's what he has said in the past.

00:03:40.320 So it's kind of interesting to see the way he operates.

00:03:44.120 He talks down his own stock.

00:03:46.460 He talks about not having any possessions ever.

00:03:50.580 He's a really interesting guy.

00:03:52.580 Interesting cat.

00:03:53.380 I love him.

00:03:54.300 If there was anybody I could interview today, my dream interview probably would be Elon Musk.

00:03:58.680 I find him one of the most fascinating.

00:04:01.340 He's kind of a he's a Nikolai Tesla of our era.

00:04:05.740 And I think misunderstood and and maybe crazy.

00:04:09.180 I don't know.

00:04:10.400 I don't think so.

00:04:11.360 But maybe crazy.

00:04:12.900 And I love that about him.

00:04:16.000 And he embodies the American entrepreneurial spirit.

00:04:20.760 He is a Nikolai Tesla in all the ways that, you know, on all the things that implies and maybe even the crazy part.

00:04:30.880 But I hope they arrest him because he won't sit down.

00:04:35.380 He will not sit down.

00:04:36.320 It's fun, too, because the left now hates him just for the reasons we've been talking about, that he insists on opening his factory again and that he can't take their zero tolerance policy.

00:04:46.500 Yeah.

00:04:48.100 You disagree with one thing on the left and you're out.

00:04:52.060 Yeah.

00:04:52.220 Oh, absolutely.

00:04:53.760 Absolutely.

00:04:55.160 So this one's really interesting to me because he seems to be, you know, he's against the lockdowns.

00:05:02.480 Right.

00:05:02.740 And the president is still, you know, he he is obviously called for six weeks of lockdown.

00:05:08.800 And he said he's been defending it on Twitter recently that it was the right policy to do.

00:05:14.400 And yet now opposition to Trump is unacceptable to the left, which is a fascinating development.

00:05:22.560 Right.

00:05:22.960 But because wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, this isn't this this.

00:05:26.200 No, I hate this argument.

00:05:27.620 I heard this on Fox News.

00:05:29.320 I didn't mean to offend you.

00:05:31.220 Jeez.

00:05:31.660 Gosh.

00:05:32.060 Well, you did.

00:05:33.020 You did.

00:05:34.700 I'm a little like Elon Musk.

00:05:36.500 I may be crazy.

00:05:37.600 Here's the thing.

00:05:38.800 Here's the thing.

00:05:40.600 Donald Trump.

00:05:42.020 Yes, he had the six week lockdown.

00:05:44.080 But all of the rest of this stuff is happening because of the states.

00:05:48.320 Donald Trump is not responsible for all of this stuff now.

00:05:51.740 All of these lockdowns are being run by the states, not the federal government.

00:05:56.740 Right.

00:05:56.920 I'm just saying Trump agreed with the policy for six weeks.

00:05:59.620 Right.

00:05:59.900 He's now trying to get people to open up and he's saying and he's by the way, even after

00:06:04.360 the lockdown expired, is it was criticizing the Georgia governor for doing too much too

00:06:09.020 fast.

00:06:09.700 So, I mean, I don't think Trump is in a situation where he has been advocating this.

00:06:14.400 You know, the media tries to make him out to be this crazy, radical character where he's

00:06:19.320 just like, everyone go out and sneeze on each other.

00:06:22.680 Like, that's not what he's done at all.

00:06:24.740 There's no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:06:27.360 And so.

00:06:27.940 Totally reasonable.

00:06:28.580 And what and what and what Musk is doing here is he's been saying, like, you know, free

00:06:34.200 America, open it up, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:36.680 And like that is in opposition to what Donald Trump is saying, which usually immediately guarantees

00:06:44.500 you're on the right side of the left because whatever that Trump says, if you're on the

00:06:49.800 left, you have to disagree with it.

00:06:51.300 What is funny is they just are reading into his mindset and saying, well, he doesn't actually

00:06:55.600 believe it.

00:06:56.080 He doesn't actually believe he's actually, but he's actually come out and said that this

00:07:00.920 is fascistic.

00:07:02.400 What's happening is fascistic.

00:07:04.500 Musk.

00:07:04.940 So he's not, I don't think he's, yeah, I don't think he's meaning that about Donald Trump.

00:07:09.480 He would say he's meaning about lockdowns right now.

00:07:11.880 His immediate concern is Newsom, who's gone further than Trump.

00:07:15.800 But I mean, I don't think the difference, which I don't think the space between Trump and

00:07:19.380 Newsom is fascism.

00:07:21.320 They both have said like, hey, this is a, this is a big time.

00:07:24.960 We need to close down the economy.

00:07:27.220 You know, like I think it's for whatever reason, because Trump's at times rhetoric says, hey,

00:07:31.880 we're, we're, you know, we want to open this up and we want to get out there when we get

00:07:34.880 out there by Easter.

00:07:35.720 But then he himself had the lockdown several weeks past Easter, right?

00:07:39.400 Like he's looking at this, I think, and trying to judge it with the best scientific, you know,

00:07:43.800 knowledge that's coming into him.

00:07:45.060 Uh, and Musk is, uh, is, is saying it's time.

00:07:49.300 I think it is time.

00:07:50.960 This is Texas.

00:07:51.820 We're, we've started to open it up and I think we've done it.

00:07:54.940 Are you wearing masks outside?

00:07:56.540 What's that?

00:07:56.880 Are you wearing masks outside?

00:07:58.000 No.

00:07:58.180 Are you wearing masks outside?

00:07:59.760 No.

00:08:00.240 I don't wear them outside.

00:08:01.360 Do you wear them into a store?

00:08:02.420 I wear them into a store.

00:08:03.720 Oh, do you?

00:08:04.180 Yeah.

00:08:04.780 Sometimes, you know, I mean, it depends on the situation.

00:08:07.520 I feel like it's interesting because, um, I've been to one store with 100% mask usage.

00:08:13.620 Really?

00:08:14.220 Whole Foods.

00:08:15.300 It's the only place I've been into that has worn out.

00:08:17.260 Of course, all the granola people.

00:08:18.480 Right.

00:08:18.660 And that's probably the absolute safest place to not wear a mask because everyone else is

00:08:22.580 wearing a mask.

00:08:23.300 Yep.

00:08:23.700 Um, if I go, there's some stores where they're, no one's wearing them and that's actually

00:08:27.500 the place you probably should wear them, uh, which is kind of counterintuitive.

00:08:30.880 Did you guys see the video of the real estate agent in Miami whose client apparently

00:08:36.760 uh, went against, uh, her better judgment, the realtor's better judgment and didn't wear

00:08:42.660 a mask or gloves to an appointment?

00:08:45.000 Hmm.

00:08:45.420 Uh, watch this.

00:08:46.760 You just a tad upset about it.

00:08:48.800 ...video because I'm a little f***ing pissed off at the simple fact that people around this 0.79

00:08:52.360 town don't wear the mask, don't wear their gloves.

00:08:55.220 I just finished showing a house right now. 0.99

00:08:57.020 The lady was pissed off because I asked her to wear a f***ing mask. 1.00

00:09:00.640 Like, seriously, woman? 1.00

00:09:02.400 And then she's coughing two seconds later.

00:09:04.740 Like, it's no f***ing big deal. 0.98

00:09:06.200 We're in this s*** because of f***ing like that. 0.98

00:09:08.920 Because people out there on their c***ing boats doing all their bulls***, partying. 0.98

00:09:13.500 No, I'm not jealous. 0.97

00:09:15.100 No, I'm not.

00:09:15.780 Because you know what? 0.95

00:09:16.380 I have a f***ing yard. 0.91

00:09:17.260 I could go out with my friends and party, but there's a c***ing time and place for everything. 1.00

00:09:21.240 And now is not the time and place.

00:09:23.120 Now is the time and place to be taking care of yourselves and the people around you.

00:09:26.280 There are people dying. 0.99

00:09:27.680 There are people in hospitals risking their lives because of m***s like you who want to wear 1.00

00:09:32.360 your mask, who don't wear your gloves, who don't wear practice social distancing. 0.97

00:09:35.720 Yes, Miami's a party town, but the truth is, you know what?

00:09:38.860 There's a time and place for partying and everything.

00:09:40.860 Now is not the time to party. 0.98

00:09:42.540 This s*** was, oh, wow. 0.95

00:09:43.840 Only in Miami. 0.99

00:09:44.860 Only in Dade.

00:09:45.780 Only in Florida. 0.97

00:09:46.880 Let me do it for a f***ing video, for a f***ing meme, for a f***ing TikTok. 0.99

00:09:50.800 Wear your f***ing mask. 0.99

00:09:52.260 Wear your gloves. 0.99

00:09:53.280 And we're going to be quarantined all the way to f***ing September. 0.99

00:09:55.760 And we may be spending f***ing New Year's in our house because of you f***ing s*** out 1.00

00:09:59.600 there who don't wear your mask. 0.99

00:10:00.920 And you know what? 0.99

00:10:01.400 I give a f***ing t***. 0.98

00:10:03.540 God? 1.00

00:10:04.020 You guys get pissed off at me, don't like me.

00:10:07.040 And you know what?

00:10:07.680 You delete me off your social media.

00:10:09.140 You'll probably be doing me a favor. 1.00

00:10:10.520 So I don't need f***ing s*** like you. 1.00

00:10:12.140 Wear your f***ing mask. 1.00

00:10:13.520 Wear your gloves. 1.00

00:10:14.700 So we can get the f*** out of our house, you dumb f***ing. 1.00

00:10:17.680 wow here's what i would suggest yeah you shouldn't drive while thank you while recording she's got 1.00

00:10:26.820 one hand you could see it in her glasses she's got one hand on the steering wheel and the other 1.00

00:10:31.360 one on her phone why did you know it's effing people like you that are killing people on the 0.99

00:10:36.680 roadways i really thought at the end she was going to crash into something at the end of that video 0.99

00:10:40.600 i thought that's what i was waiting for it would have been great yeah you know it would have been

00:10:44.820 great i guess well it would have been appropriate uh you know i i i find this uh i i find this also

00:10:51.600 in uh in intriguing as she is uh she is yelling about this i'm guessing she didn't sell the house 0.73

00:10:58.360 i'm guessing she left the house i'd say that's a good guess didn't yeah yeah and i wonder if the

00:11:04.440 woman would have said okay let's sign a contract i wonder if that rant would have happened no way 1.00

00:11:10.520 probably not no way right and the other thing is the glove situation when you go into a store

00:11:16.180 wearing gloves and then you touch something you're already can you're contaminated right there you need

00:11:23.420 to change the gloves after you touch anything so if you have enough glove changes with you uh to to

00:11:30.600 change them out after every single touch like you're touching a uh cereal box that has been handled by 40

00:11:36.980 other people right well and the glove thing is isn't even science right i mean like it's no you

00:11:42.140 know it's much better to actually have touched something bad and then wash your hands then you

00:11:46.480 have it on your gloves then you take it off a lot of people would touch whatever is on the outside of

00:11:50.980 their gloves if they don't take it off properly and then what use that as an excuse to not wash their

00:11:54.940 hands well you should wash your hands after that anyway you know the mask thing i think you know the

00:11:58.640 science on that is you know look there's a good they say about 70 to 80 percent uh drop on how how many

00:12:05.300 droplets could get through if someone sneezes uh in your face basically which is look it's it's

00:12:10.260 how often are people sneezing very infrequently but i mean it only takes once as you right very

00:12:14.760 recently found out i did for my grandson who sneezed directly in my face and uh yes i did get sick

00:12:21.240 it's better than having it's better than having your daughter is better than having your daughter

00:12:26.320 vomit in your mouth which i've had yes that's nasty that sounds worse it was not definitely worse

00:12:32.060 no mask is helping you from that i will say yeah no daddy i have a tummy ache well what does it feel 0.87

00:12:38.600 like yeah it was not good it was not good i mean you know as far as i know glenn you haven't been out

00:12:44.520 at all so uh you you probably don't have to worry about masks because you haven't gone out to dinner

00:12:49.100 or anything you haven't taken advantage of any of our texas freedoms yet i'm really liking staying at

00:12:54.660 home i'm really loving it uh there is a chance if there wasn't a camera in my house that i had to

00:13:01.120 show up every day i might look like howard hughes at this point i may have just a long beard and

00:13:06.840 really long creepy fingernails and be like i'm just peeing in bottles now and leaving them outside of

00:13:12.320 the door it's a very attractive image yes i know it is uh but i'm actually very i'm i'm enjoying it

00:13:21.480 and i can't take the mask thing because i mean i'll wear the mask if you know if we have to wear the

00:13:26.440 mask i'll wear the mask um but it's ridiculous because nobody knows what they're doing did you

00:13:32.800 see i i saw somebody yesterday where was it on tv they were wearing the mask and they were talking

00:13:40.200 but they they had the mask just over their mouth not over their nose and i'm like that's not doing

00:13:46.120 you any good wing yeah it's not and you know what i love is when they when they take their glove

00:13:51.160 hand and they pull down the mask so they can talk to you well you've just contaminated your gloves

00:13:56.980 and your mask right yeah so why do you have them on no my it's just no no my favorite are the people

00:14:02.660 like at home depot that are wearing gloves and their gloves are like black from wearing them all day

00:14:07.440 yeah you're just keeping it around longer i don't the glove thing makes no sense you can't wash your

00:14:13.640 hand you can't wash the outside of the gloves off so the stuff that you pick up stays there forever

00:14:18.800 uh if you have just your hands and you touch something that's bad wash your hands frequently

00:14:24.600 washing your hands and it gets removed and you're okay every so often right it doesn't happen with

00:14:28.600 gloves that's true the best thing at least makes sense i think that you know if you you can obviously

00:14:34.740 yeah the best thing makes sense but the gloves make no sense no sense pat gray from pat gray unleashed

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00:15:46.320 slash back you know if you ever if you ever listen to somebody and you agree with everything they say

00:15:52.620 turn off the radio or or look for some other voice because that person most likely is lying to you

00:16:00.980 the thing i like about shara okinson is she takes on both sides she won an emmy award for outstanding 0.89

00:16:08.120 investigative journalism for the business of congress which included an undercover investigation into

00:16:13.280 fundraising by republican freshmen uh she had two other emmy nominations for benghazi dying for security

00:16:20.760 and green energy going red it was around that time period where she fell out of favor uh with uh the 0.62

00:16:28.900 people at cbs news and elsewhere she has kept her good name and her integrity and she joins us now

00:16:35.860 cheryl atkinson from um uh full measure dot news cheryl how are you i'm great glenn how are you

00:16:43.920 good i read your story this morning and i wanted to get you on because i i i wondered if you could take us

00:16:50.680 through what is happening with this so-called obamagate and kind of explain it in layman's terms

00:16:57.860 and tie it to your your story that you just wrote which is incredible about all of the news

00:17:04.900 inaccuracies over the last few years i think that a lot of the conspiracy theories we heard about

00:17:13.960 four years ago that i didn't put much stock in because they sounded so far-fetched in some cases

00:17:19.440 have to a large degree proven through documentary evidence and testimony to be absolutely true

00:17:25.260 no one's more surprised than i am because again it just seemed like who would do that and what i'm

00:17:31.500 talking about is okay go ahead yeah i was just gonna say help me out on which conspiracy theories

00:17:38.320 because that's what everybody says about both sides now it's conspiracy so this one is the notion that

00:17:45.800 when president trump became a viable candidate for office and threatened both the democrat and

00:17:51.260 republican establishment the money system and what's perhaps even worse threatened to bring in

00:17:57.260 lieutenant general michael flynn who let's say knew where the bodies were buried and the intelligence

00:18:02.060 community knew he was going to upend abuses and corruption that he knew about there became a

00:18:08.080 desperate attempt to make sure that that didn't happen and that included attempts to try to find

00:18:14.000 anybody surrounding the trump campaign who maybe had been to russia so that it would be easier

00:18:19.700 to justify getting a wiretap against those people through which they could capture president trump's

00:18:26.380 communications and try to controversialize him and make sure that he didn't serve as an effective

00:18:32.740 and complete president i think that's what we've seen that's why they targeted flynn you remember

00:18:38.120 um president obama met with president elect trump in the white house and before any of these

00:18:45.420 conversations that flynn had with the russian ambassador that were controversial before any of

00:18:50.960 this happened president obama reportedly told trump don't hire flynn why do you think that is but i think

00:18:57.600 it's pretty clear now based on again the documentary evidence that there was an effort when trump hired flynn

00:19:03.140 anyway to go after him and as the handwritten notes of one department of justice official said

00:19:08.940 do we want to get him to lie is that the goal so that we can get him fired or get him prosecuted and

00:19:15.920 that's exactly what it appears they did so cheryl take me through the the argument or the back and 0.99

00:19:25.940 forth of the president knew about this the president didn't know about this um and and why that's important

00:19:34.620 these these meetings uh that the president was involved in which meetings are you talking about sorry

00:19:41.580 the meetings the meetings at the white house uh where you know uh i think it was clapper said

00:19:48.500 no i didn't inform the president the president didn't know anything about this and we now find out that

00:19:53.940 they did have a meeting um and they were talking about the fbi investigation was coming to an end and he said

00:20:02.380 no keep it open keep it going ah president obama i'm sorry i was thinking president yes

00:20:07.360 oh yeah sorry president trump uh obama i i have not dug into that yet so i just don't i don't have any

00:20:14.180 particular insight but the question that's been raised by the new information that's coming out

00:20:20.200 three to four years later by the way after we should have had it this is public information in my view

00:20:24.980 it goes to the heart of potential criminal wrongdoing and national security but this was kept hidden even by

00:20:31.060 people working for president trump for the past couple of years until now but what we're getting

00:20:35.660 at the heart of now is how high up this went there's been a a steady stream of documentation from the

00:20:42.420 inspector general and documents and congressional inquiries as to the participation and wrongdoing

00:20:49.100 including in the foreign intelligence surveillance court improper wiretaps by fbi officials

00:20:54.560 the doctoring of a document by an fbi lawyer well we we know all that now but how high did it go did

00:21:02.060 all of this happen sort of under the radar without the top authorities knowing or did president obama

00:21:08.580 play a role in helping to direct this did his top national security advisor and officials

00:21:13.980 what role did they play i think we're finally getting at the heart of some of some of those questions and

00:21:19.840 i would tell you that in general it it it defies credulity to think that all of this was being

00:21:25.760 done at that level the way it was being done without the knowledge of top officials

00:21:30.660 so what were they when you said flynn wanted to go obama would respond no the guy's a racist i didn't

00:21:40.080 like the way he was uh he spoke about uh islam etc etc what what are the bodies that flynn would have known

00:21:48.140 that that obama didn't want uncovered well i'll tell you a couple of things i know about and this is before

00:21:56.100 2016 through my sources and intelligence community i knew that they were wiretapping political figures and

00:22:03.760 journalists not just me other people um a lot of people improperly and i would say illegally

00:22:09.680 being monitored perhaps blackmailed or at least leverage used over people you know that knew they were being

00:22:16.860 monitored or had been monitored um these are really big things that i think have been going on for

00:22:22.840 years edward snowden revealed some of this some of it we little little bit we found out about with

00:22:27.840 revelations about the obama administration getting subpoenas against associated press and that sort of

00:22:32.520 thing but i think a far greater danger there were more under the table efforts not even legal subpoenas

00:22:39.120 that were being secretly you know given against the press i think there were a lot more shenanigans

00:22:45.360 being conducted inside our intelligence agency for the past 15 years and top people brennan and clapper

00:22:51.260 head of the the director of national intelligence and head of the cia on multiple occasions that i've

00:22:57.480 documented on a timeline at cherylackison.com provided false information to congress um they were part of

00:23:06.060 spying on uh the senate intelligence committee but then providing misleading information when asked about

00:23:11.420 it than having to ultimately admit it and apologize i mean if you think about it it almost starts to

00:23:16.540 when you look at the timeline look like they were spying on practically everybody who weren't they

00:23:21.000 spying on this is not allowed under our constitution and in our country and i think clen knew a lot about

00:23:26.740 a lot of this and going into 2016 i was told this was one thing that many people inside the intelligence

00:23:34.880 community the bad actors not the good actors but something that they feared so this is the worst case scenario

00:23:43.100 i think for all americans i don't care if you're left or right i don't care if you love obama or love trump

00:23:47.800 it doesn't matter this is awful uh and leads us into a completely dystopian uh world uh it do you believe

00:23:59.020 there's enough there and are there any journalists out there that are part of the mainstream that this

00:24:06.000 will affect enough to where they will say we got to put partisan politics aside this has to be

00:24:13.900 uncovered i just think a lot of the deep diggers who would view things that way and just go where the

00:24:20.100 facts lead that's not being done at a lot of the mainstream news organizations anymore they're just

00:24:25.380 taking handout propaganda or comments from anonymous sources on one side of the other and publishing

00:24:30.740 that that's not a lot of real work or digging going into this this takes real work i've seen people

00:24:36.400 like glenn greenwald of the intercept and a couple of other places including some less leaning publications

00:24:43.740 that have actually dug deep because their interest lies in in intersects in some cases with the interests of

00:24:50.600 the right where these privacy invasions have happened no matter who's committing them or these

00:24:55.800 constitutional violations i have seen some deep digging but it's not being done at what i guess you

00:25:02.220 would call the traditional mainstream outlets the best of the glenn beck program

00:25:09.400 world-renowned journalist she is probably one of the best interviewers uh i have seen 0.97

00:25:24.280 uh i'm trying to think of somebody that was better uh i can't think of anybody that is better at doing

00:25:31.200 interviews she always gets to the bottom of it and i think that's because she was a lawyer she was a 0.85

00:25:36.440 litigator for nine years before she went into uh journalism welcome to the program megan kelly how

00:25:42.060 are you hey glenn good to see you oh good to see you i didn't know you were going to be on on skype as

00:25:47.900 well great glad to have you i'll make it for you wow thank you thank you um so megan i watched your

00:25:56.360 uh interview i've watched it twice now i honestly very rarely do i say there's no question left

00:26:05.040 uh on the table uh because i wanted to try to get her and i think she chose you uh instead obviously

00:26:12.900 uh but uh i thought i had some real questions for her you handled all of them how did you find her

00:26:20.900 uh personally well personally she was delightful um you know she was perfectly kind warm she's been

00:26:30.860 through the ringer you could see that too this is not a woman of great means and um you know when i

00:26:37.060 got to her she had i think the night before hired well not hired she's not paying him but gotten a

00:26:43.220 lawyer and a pr person for the first time in this whole thing so she for the first time felt a little

00:26:48.900 bit more steady you know she's had no protection and she's out there you know she's on a very thin reed

00:26:54.180 and she's getting it from all sides and she's got no team glenn you know what i mean there's

00:26:58.040 there's no natural constituency backing her so she was a little i don't know if the word's fragile

00:27:04.060 but maybe just a little unsteady so how shocked do you think she was because i i say this to people

00:27:11.120 all the time they say i want to come out take a stand or i just want to agree with whatever and

00:27:16.180 i'll say to people all the time are you really aware people don't know megan until unless they've

00:27:22.480 lived your life or my life or tara's life now how horrible uh the media and social media can be i

00:27:33.300 mean there it is a business of destroying people now oh yeah it's how shocked how shocked was she

00:27:41.500 by that and what kind of damage has been done to her well i mean i think she was expecting to have

00:27:46.900 her credibility questioned you know you you you better be if you're going to come out and accuse

00:27:50.940 somebody running for president of something as serious as this she's not she's no dummy she

00:27:55.680 understood she was going to take hits in terms of whatever you know is she credible does the story

00:28:00.420 make sense but you know her bankruptcy got posted online they're going back to 1993 and looking for

00:28:06.800 did she bounce a check it's like you know what i put myself through law school and you want to go

00:28:11.740 back and look at my bounce checks you're gonna find a lot of them you know it doesn't mean i'm not a

00:28:15.520 credible person a lot of us were poor when we were in our 20s and so i think that part of it has been

00:28:20.640 rough that somebody posted a picture and her address of her daughter uh who's you know in her 20s and

00:28:27.420 that's messed up she's getting death threats over this just you know the media is totally irresponsible 1.00

00:28:32.300 and people are so nasty and social media is so awful so i think she's she's a little rattled but

00:28:38.340 you know all things considered she was holding it together okay so has the me too movement changed

00:28:43.640 anything i mean if you accuse the right person it's good if you accuse the wrong person it's not

00:28:51.360 i mean has has it changed anything for women i mean because if i were a woman and i had a story to tell

00:28:57.400 i would be terrified after seeing what's happening to her well i will say this i think political

00:29:02.540 accusers you know accusers in a political race get it the worst right it's like not that like the harvey

00:29:09.000 weinstein accusers had it so right for god's sake rose mcgowan right secret agents following her and 1.00

00:29:14.120 trying to dupe her but if you come forward whether it's trump biden uh roy moore you know as an accuser

00:29:21.100 in an election year you're going to get it worse because as we've seen with tara reid even

00:29:25.760 constituencies that might naturally support you are now suddenly very suspicious of you um so i think

00:29:31.880 that's rough but to your question about the me too movement it's done some good i think there's no

00:29:36.340 question it's done some good in calling attention to the fact that you know there is harassment in

00:29:40.860 the workplace most women for most of time have just gone along with it because we kind of were told this

00:29:47.040 is how you make it in a man's world and so just sort of putting that asterisk in people's minds like

00:29:52.300 this is a thing and you know you should probably at least listen when a woman comes forward and actually 0.97

00:29:57.920 putting the idea in women's heads that they can come forward if they have something all good 0.97

00:30:01.880 but um the pendulum you know which was over here when it came to women's allegations like when i was

00:30:09.800 in college back in the early 90s if you came out with a rape allegation you were probably going to

00:30:15.760 be dismissed a lot more easily than you would be today so that so the pendulum needed to swing but

00:30:21.300 like so many of these things we've over corrected to a point where now the accused they haven't been

00:30:27.180 getting due process you can make a single allegation that's unsupported and ruin a guy's career over 30

00:30:32.220 years that's not okay either you know we got to get to a place where we settle where the women are 1.00

00:30:37.580 taken seriously or the men accusing um they're heard but due process is afforded to the person being

00:30:43.840 accused so if if tar reed is the person who can do that by exposing the hypocrisy of some of the

00:30:51.020 democrats who have you know with the believe all women nonsense which was never sincere then she's done

00:30:56.540 good for the country and you know we'll see whether her allegation has impact beyond that

00:31:00.700 okay so i want to come back to the listening versus believing and the impact on politics and stuff in

00:31:07.680 a second but i i want to go you know you just said if you made a rape allegation in the 80s or 90s 0.98

00:31:12.800 uh you would have been in trouble and what they probably would have done is shut a slut shamed you 1.00

00:31:16.880 uh and i noticed a little bit of this with her answers first where uh you know stop wearing short 0.91

00:31:24.680 skirts and she said i wasn't wearing short skirts i was just wearing stuff off the rack um uh but then

00:31:30.800 i thought one of the most uncomfortable things that she said because i think she knew um and

00:31:37.620 she felt the old slut shaming kind of thing about her underwear and how uh without getting graphic how 0.79

00:31:47.660 biden gained access um and you could see she was uncomfortable with that because of her mother and

00:31:54.120 she didn't want to tell her mother that and that makes sense to me and it makes sense to me that

00:31:58.700 she wouldn't want to say anything and it makes sense to me that she understood the slut shaming thing 0.95

00:32:05.420 that oh she's asking for it look at her skirts i'll put my lawyer hat on now and argue both ways right 1.00

00:32:12.300 you can you can say she was uncomfortable having that discussion because she didn't really want to

00:32:15.880 reveal to the world that she was wearing what i think she was saying were crotchless underwear 1.00

00:32:20.740 to to work at the u.s senate because she was supposed to see her boyfriend later and that was

00:32:28.120 her story um or you could say she seemed uncomfortable because she wasn't telling the truth

00:32:33.220 um because she had to explain how he could gain access under her skirt so quickly and you know

00:32:38.820 there's there's a belief by some on capitol hill that all the women back then in 92 93 were wearing

00:32:43.900 pantyhose that it was an either an unwritten rule or an actual rule you had to wear pantyhose on your

00:32:48.860 legs and therefore biden couldn't have done this so you know that's up to the viewer i really believe

00:32:54.440 well over the course of a 40 minute interview like that they'll walk away with a good sense

00:32:58.960 as to whether they're they're seeing a truth teller or not did you see a truth teller or not

00:33:05.460 well i'm not going to opine on my own personal belief because i want to continue reporting on this

00:33:10.560 case and i you know i shouldn't choose a side i mean i definitely have my own belief but it's irrelevant

00:33:15.560 so uh the uh is it the karen person that is not a real name can you tell me uh tell me about and

00:33:28.320 not i don't know i don't want to know who she is but tell me about her and why she is important and

00:33:33.240 why she's not comfortable coming out okay so karen is by far tara reed's best witness um she tara has

00:33:42.740 you know a corroborating witness that is far more compelling than anything we saw from christine

00:33:48.480 blasey ford i mean far more compelling um far more i mean there's no there's no contest and anybody who

00:33:54.800 tells you differently is lying to you um karen is the person who was friends with tara on capitol hill

00:34:01.540 and was in ted kennedy's office this is a young intern at the time they befriended one another and tara

00:34:07.420 told karen contemporaneously with the alleged assault that it had happened and according to

00:34:13.560 karen tara's never deviated in a single detail over 30 years about what allegedly happened that day

00:34:21.540 now i've spoken with karen at length she's a professional she's smart she's on it you know

00:34:27.500 you talk to her and you're like okay i this is a very credible person who's been successful in her life

00:34:32.600 um but at best what that establishes for tara is that tara told karen this happened it doesn't prove

00:34:41.820 that it actually happened and so you know you you would have to believe there's something a little

00:34:46.940 wacky about tara right that she would back then be making a story like this but glenn that happens 0.97

00:34:53.500 sometimes sometimes that does happen i'm not saying it happened here but people do need to allow for the

00:34:58.620 possibility that tara did make that up and has been telling witnesses for 30 years because it's a story 0.83

00:35:04.300 that somehow meant something to her and she decided to spread it

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