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Glenn Beck talks about Elon Musk and his "Arrest Me" attitude, Megyn Kelly's interview about Joe Biden, and the people that are protesting the coronavirus, and much more. Glenn Beck is an American conservative commentator and host of the Glenn Beck Program on the conservative radio show "The Glenn Beck Show."
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Hey, podcasters, welcome to the program. It's Tuesday, a great, great show for you.
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I mean, we talk about Elon Musk and his go ahead and arrest me attitude, which I absolutely love.
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We have Cheryl Atkinson on who is talking about General Flynn and what's happening in Washington and the lies of the media.
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And then we have an hour with Megyn Kelly, who just did the Tara Reid interview about accusing Joe Biden of sexual, not harassment, sexual assault.
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Her interview is fascinating. And we get into also coronavirus and people that are protesting the coronavirus.
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All of that on today's podcast. Don't miss a second of it.
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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Glad you're here.
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Here's a couple of things. I got to stop and talk about Elon Musk because I love this guy. I love him.
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Now, remember, Elon Musk is a global warming guy. I mean, that's why he's that's why he's planning on going to Mars, because he's so convinced about global warming.
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OK, so he's not exactly a conservative, but he's he is great. I just love him.
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He's an entrepreneur. He is. He's Tony Stark. Let's be honest.
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He is living the life of Tony Stark and using his money in all the ways that you would hope to use your money if you were really, really rich and a genius.
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Well, he is in an argument now with California.
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And California has said you can't open your your factory until when what are they saying the 20th or something like that?
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And he says, I'm opening it up. I'm opening it up today. That's this is today.
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And if you want to arrest me, go ahead. I'll be on the line.
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So now California is really, really pissed at him because he's defying their orders.
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Nobody elected, you know, I'm running my company.
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Apparently, it has been crowded for the last few days as they started to come back online.
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And he's threatening to move to Texas or Nevada, which I mean, you can move to Nevada, but you will be welcomed here in Texas, Mr. Musk.
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Yeah, I understand that Newsom kind of gave him the go ahead.
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And then it was some non-elected county official that said, no, you're not going you're not restarting that.
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I hope they do, because he has the money to make it into.
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He's not going to shut up and he's not going to take it.
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You know, what else is kind of cool about Elon Musk is he's the only billionaire hobo I know of.
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I mean, he doesn't have apparently a lot of cash flow.
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So it's kind of interesting to see the way he operates.
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He talks about not having any possessions ever.
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If there was anybody I could interview today, my dream interview probably would be Elon Musk.
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He's kind of a he's a Nikolai Tesla of our era.
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And he embodies the American entrepreneurial spirit.
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He is a Nikolai Tesla in all the ways that, you know, on all the things that implies and maybe even the crazy part.
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But I hope they arrest him because he won't sit down.
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It's fun, too, because the left now hates him just for the reasons we've been talking about, that he insists on opening his factory again and that he can't take their zero tolerance policy.
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You disagree with one thing on the left and you're out.
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So this one's really interesting to me because he seems to be, you know, he's against the lockdowns.
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And the president is still, you know, he he is obviously called for six weeks of lockdown.
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And he said he's been defending it on Twitter recently that it was the right policy to do.
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And yet now opposition to Trump is unacceptable to the left, which is a fascinating development.
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But because wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, this isn't this this.
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But all of the rest of this stuff is happening because of the states.
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Donald Trump is not responsible for all of this stuff now.
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All of these lockdowns are being run by the states, not the federal government.
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I'm just saying Trump agreed with the policy for six weeks.
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He's now trying to get people to open up and he's saying and he's by the way, even after
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the lockdown expired, is it was criticizing the Georgia governor for doing too much too
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So, I mean, I don't think Trump is in a situation where he has been advocating this.
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You know, the media tries to make him out to be this crazy, radical character where he's
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just like, everyone go out and sneeze on each other.
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And what and what and what Musk is doing here is he's been saying, like, you know, free
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And like that is in opposition to what Donald Trump is saying, which usually immediately guarantees
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you're on the right side of the left because whatever that Trump says, if you're on the
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What is funny is they just are reading into his mindset and saying, well, he doesn't actually
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He doesn't actually believe he's actually, but he's actually come out and said that this
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So he's not, I don't think he's, yeah, I don't think he's meaning that about Donald Trump.
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He would say he's meaning about lockdowns right now.
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His immediate concern is Newsom, who's gone further than Trump.
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But I mean, I don't think the difference, which I don't think the space between Trump and
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They both have said like, hey, this is a, this is a big time.
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You know, like I think it's for whatever reason, because Trump's at times rhetoric says, hey,
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we're, we're, you know, we want to open this up and we want to get out there when we get
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But then he himself had the lockdown several weeks past Easter, right?
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Like he's looking at this, I think, and trying to judge it with the best scientific, you know,
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We're, we've started to open it up and I think we've done it.
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Sometimes, you know, I mean, it depends on the situation.
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I feel like it's interesting because, um, I've been to one store with 100% mask usage.
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It's the only place I've been into that has worn out.
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And that's probably the absolute safest place to not wear a mask because everyone else is
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Um, if I go, there's some stores where they're, no one's wearing them and that's actually
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the place you probably should wear them, uh, which is kind of counterintuitive.
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Did you guys see the video of the real estate agent in Miami whose client apparently
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uh, went against, uh, her better judgment, the realtor's better judgment and didn't wear
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...video because I'm a little f***ing pissed off at the simple fact that people around this
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town don't wear the mask, don't wear their gloves.
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The lady was pissed off because I asked her to wear a f***ing mask.
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We're in this s*** because of f***ing like that.
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Because people out there on their c***ing boats doing all their bulls***, partying.
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I could go out with my friends and party, but there's a c***ing time and place for everything.
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Now is the time and place to be taking care of yourselves and the people around you.
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There are people in hospitals risking their lives because of m***s like you who want to wear
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your mask, who don't wear your gloves, who don't wear practice social distancing.
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Yes, Miami's a party town, but the truth is, you know what?
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There's a time and place for partying and everything.
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Let me do it for a f***ing video, for a f***ing meme, for a f***ing TikTok.
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And we're going to be quarantined all the way to f***ing September.
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And we may be spending f***ing New Year's in our house because of you f***ing s*** out
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So we can get the f*** out of our house, you dumb f***ing.
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wow here's what i would suggest yeah you shouldn't drive while thank you while recording she's got
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one hand you could see it in her glasses she's got one hand on the steering wheel and the other
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one on her phone why did you know it's effing people like you that are killing people on the
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roadways i really thought at the end she was going to crash into something at the end of that video
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i thought that's what i was waiting for it would have been great yeah you know it would have been
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great i guess well it would have been appropriate uh you know i i i find this uh i i find this also
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in uh in intriguing as she is uh she is yelling about this i'm guessing she didn't sell the house
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i'm guessing she left the house i'd say that's a good guess didn't yeah yeah and i wonder if the
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woman would have said okay let's sign a contract i wonder if that rant would have happened no way
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probably not no way right and the other thing is the glove situation when you go into a store
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wearing gloves and then you touch something you're already can you're contaminated right there you need
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to change the gloves after you touch anything so if you have enough glove changes with you uh to to
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change them out after every single touch like you're touching a uh cereal box that has been handled by 40
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other people right well and the glove thing is isn't even science right i mean like it's no you
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know it's much better to actually have touched something bad and then wash your hands then you
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have it on your gloves then you take it off a lot of people would touch whatever is on the outside of
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their gloves if they don't take it off properly and then what use that as an excuse to not wash their
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hands well you should wash your hands after that anyway you know the mask thing i think you know the
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science on that is you know look there's a good they say about 70 to 80 percent uh drop on how how many
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droplets could get through if someone sneezes uh in your face basically which is look it's it's
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how often are people sneezing very infrequently but i mean it only takes once as you right very
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recently found out i did for my grandson who sneezed directly in my face and uh yes i did get sick
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it's better than having it's better than having your daughter is better than having your daughter
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vomit in your mouth which i've had yes that's nasty that sounds worse it was not definitely worse
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no mask is helping you from that i will say yeah no daddy i have a tummy ache well what does it feel
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like yeah it was not good it was not good i mean you know as far as i know glenn you haven't been out
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at all so uh you you probably don't have to worry about masks because you haven't gone out to dinner
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or anything you haven't taken advantage of any of our texas freedoms yet i'm really liking staying at
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home i'm really loving it uh there is a chance if there wasn't a camera in my house that i had to
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show up every day i might look like howard hughes at this point i may have just a long beard and
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really long creepy fingernails and be like i'm just peeing in bottles now and leaving them outside of
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the door it's a very attractive image yes i know it is uh but i'm actually very i'm i'm enjoying it
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and i can't take the mask thing because i mean i'll wear the mask if you know if we have to wear the
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mask i'll wear the mask um but it's ridiculous because nobody knows what they're doing did you
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see i i saw somebody yesterday where was it on tv they were wearing the mask and they were talking
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but they they had the mask just over their mouth not over their nose and i'm like that's not doing
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you any good wing yeah it's not and you know what i love is when they when they take their glove
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hand and they pull down the mask so they can talk to you well you've just contaminated your gloves
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and your mask right yeah so why do you have them on no my it's just no no my favorite are the people
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like at home depot that are wearing gloves and their gloves are like black from wearing them all day
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yeah you're just keeping it around longer i don't the glove thing makes no sense you can't wash your
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hand you can't wash the outside of the gloves off so the stuff that you pick up stays there forever
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uh if you have just your hands and you touch something that's bad wash your hands frequently
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washing your hands and it gets removed and you're okay every so often right it doesn't happen with
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gloves that's true the best thing at least makes sense i think that you know if you you can obviously
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yeah the best thing makes sense but the gloves make no sense no sense pat gray from pat gray unleashed
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turn off the radio or or look for some other voice because that person most likely is lying to you
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the thing i like about shara okinson is she takes on both sides she won an emmy award for outstanding
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investigative journalism for the business of congress which included an undercover investigation into
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fundraising by republican freshmen uh she had two other emmy nominations for benghazi dying for security
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and green energy going red it was around that time period where she fell out of favor uh with uh the
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people at cbs news and elsewhere she has kept her good name and her integrity and she joins us now
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cheryl atkinson from um uh full measure dot news cheryl how are you i'm great glenn how are you
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good i read your story this morning and i wanted to get you on because i i i wondered if you could take us
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through what is happening with this so-called obamagate and kind of explain it in layman's terms
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and tie it to your your story that you just wrote which is incredible about all of the news
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inaccuracies over the last few years i think that a lot of the conspiracy theories we heard about
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four years ago that i didn't put much stock in because they sounded so far-fetched in some cases
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have to a large degree proven through documentary evidence and testimony to be absolutely true
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no one's more surprised than i am because again it just seemed like who would do that and what i'm
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talking about is okay go ahead yeah i was just gonna say help me out on which conspiracy theories
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because that's what everybody says about both sides now it's conspiracy so this one is the notion that
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when president trump became a viable candidate for office and threatened both the democrat and
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republican establishment the money system and what's perhaps even worse threatened to bring in
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lieutenant general michael flynn who let's say knew where the bodies were buried and the intelligence
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community knew he was going to upend abuses and corruption that he knew about there became a
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desperate attempt to make sure that that didn't happen and that included attempts to try to find
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anybody surrounding the trump campaign who maybe had been to russia so that it would be easier
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to justify getting a wiretap against those people through which they could capture president trump's
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communications and try to controversialize him and make sure that he didn't serve as an effective
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and complete president i think that's what we've seen that's why they targeted flynn you remember
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um president obama met with president elect trump in the white house and before any of these
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conversations that flynn had with the russian ambassador that were controversial before any of
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this happened president obama reportedly told trump don't hire flynn why do you think that is but i think
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it's pretty clear now based on again the documentary evidence that there was an effort when trump hired flynn
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anyway to go after him and as the handwritten notes of one department of justice official said
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do we want to get him to lie is that the goal so that we can get him fired or get him prosecuted and
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that's exactly what it appears they did so cheryl take me through the the argument or the back and
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forth of the president knew about this the president didn't know about this um and and why that's important
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these these meetings uh that the president was involved in which meetings are you talking about sorry
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the meetings the meetings at the white house uh where you know uh i think it was clapper said
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no i didn't inform the president the president didn't know anything about this and we now find out that
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they did have a meeting um and they were talking about the fbi investigation was coming to an end and he said
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no keep it open keep it going ah president obama i'm sorry i was thinking president yes
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oh yeah sorry president trump uh obama i i have not dug into that yet so i just don't i don't have any
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particular insight but the question that's been raised by the new information that's coming out
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three to four years later by the way after we should have had it this is public information in my view
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it goes to the heart of potential criminal wrongdoing and national security but this was kept hidden even by
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people working for president trump for the past couple of years until now but what we're getting
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at the heart of now is how high up this went there's been a a steady stream of documentation from the
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inspector general and documents and congressional inquiries as to the participation and wrongdoing
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including in the foreign intelligence surveillance court improper wiretaps by fbi officials
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the doctoring of a document by an fbi lawyer well we we know all that now but how high did it go did
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all of this happen sort of under the radar without the top authorities knowing or did president obama
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play a role in helping to direct this did his top national security advisor and officials
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what role did they play i think we're finally getting at the heart of some of some of those questions and
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i would tell you that in general it it it defies credulity to think that all of this was being
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done at that level the way it was being done without the knowledge of top officials
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so what were they when you said flynn wanted to go obama would respond no the guy's a racist i didn't
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like the way he was uh he spoke about uh islam etc etc what what are the bodies that flynn would have known
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that that obama didn't want uncovered well i'll tell you a couple of things i know about and this is before
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2016 through my sources and intelligence community i knew that they were wiretapping political figures and
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journalists not just me other people um a lot of people improperly and i would say illegally
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being monitored perhaps blackmailed or at least leverage used over people you know that knew they were being
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monitored or had been monitored um these are really big things that i think have been going on for
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years edward snowden revealed some of this some of it we little little bit we found out about with
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revelations about the obama administration getting subpoenas against associated press and that sort of
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thing but i think a far greater danger there were more under the table efforts not even legal subpoenas
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that were being secretly you know given against the press i think there were a lot more shenanigans
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being conducted inside our intelligence agency for the past 15 years and top people brennan and clapper
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head of the the director of national intelligence and head of the cia on multiple occasions that i've
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documented on a timeline at cherylackison.com provided false information to congress um they were part of
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spying on uh the senate intelligence committee but then providing misleading information when asked about
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it than having to ultimately admit it and apologize i mean if you think about it it almost starts to
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when you look at the timeline look like they were spying on practically everybody who weren't they
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spying on this is not allowed under our constitution and in our country and i think clen knew a lot about
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a lot of this and going into 2016 i was told this was one thing that many people inside the intelligence
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community the bad actors not the good actors but something that they feared so this is the worst case scenario
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i think for all americans i don't care if you're left or right i don't care if you love obama or love trump
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it doesn't matter this is awful uh and leads us into a completely dystopian uh world uh it do you believe
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there's enough there and are there any journalists out there that are part of the mainstream that this
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will affect enough to where they will say we got to put partisan politics aside this has to be
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uncovered i just think a lot of the deep diggers who would view things that way and just go where the
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facts lead that's not being done at a lot of the mainstream news organizations anymore they're just
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taking handout propaganda or comments from anonymous sources on one side of the other and publishing
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that that's not a lot of real work or digging going into this this takes real work i've seen people
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like glenn greenwald of the intercept and a couple of other places including some less leaning publications
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that have actually dug deep because their interest lies in in intersects in some cases with the interests of
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the right where these privacy invasions have happened no matter who's committing them or these
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constitutional violations i have seen some deep digging but it's not being done at what i guess you
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would call the traditional mainstream outlets the best of the glenn beck program
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world-renowned journalist she is probably one of the best interviewers uh i have seen
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uh i'm trying to think of somebody that was better uh i can't think of anybody that is better at doing
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interviews she always gets to the bottom of it and i think that's because she was a lawyer she was a
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litigator for nine years before she went into uh journalism welcome to the program megan kelly how
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are you hey glenn good to see you oh good to see you i didn't know you were going to be on on skype as
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well great glad to have you i'll make it for you wow thank you thank you um so megan i watched your
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uh interview i've watched it twice now i honestly very rarely do i say there's no question left
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uh on the table uh because i wanted to try to get her and i think she chose you uh instead obviously
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uh but uh i thought i had some real questions for her you handled all of them how did you find her
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uh personally well personally she was delightful um you know she was perfectly kind warm she's been
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through the ringer you could see that too this is not a woman of great means and um you know when i
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got to her she had i think the night before hired well not hired she's not paying him but gotten a
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lawyer and a pr person for the first time in this whole thing so she for the first time felt a little
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bit more steady you know she's had no protection and she's out there you know she's on a very thin reed
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and she's getting it from all sides and she's got no team glenn you know what i mean there's
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there's no natural constituency backing her so she was a little i don't know if the word's fragile
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but maybe just a little unsteady so how shocked do you think she was because i i say this to people
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all the time they say i want to come out take a stand or i just want to agree with whatever and
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i'll say to people all the time are you really aware people don't know megan until unless they've
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lived your life or my life or tara's life now how horrible uh the media and social media can be i
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mean there it is a business of destroying people now oh yeah it's how shocked how shocked was she
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by that and what kind of damage has been done to her well i mean i think she was expecting to have
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her credibility questioned you know you you you better be if you're going to come out and accuse
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somebody running for president of something as serious as this she's not she's no dummy she
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understood she was going to take hits in terms of whatever you know is she credible does the story
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make sense but you know her bankruptcy got posted online they're going back to 1993 and looking for
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did she bounce a check it's like you know what i put myself through law school and you want to go
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back and look at my bounce checks you're gonna find a lot of them you know it doesn't mean i'm not a
00:28:15.520
credible person a lot of us were poor when we were in our 20s and so i think that part of it has been
00:28:20.640
rough that somebody posted a picture and her address of her daughter uh who's you know in her 20s and
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that's messed up she's getting death threats over this just you know the media is totally irresponsible
00:28:32.300
and people are so nasty and social media is so awful so i think she's she's a little rattled but
00:28:38.340
you know all things considered she was holding it together okay so has the me too movement changed
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anything i mean if you accuse the right person it's good if you accuse the wrong person it's not
00:28:51.360
i mean has has it changed anything for women i mean because if i were a woman and i had a story to tell
00:28:57.400
i would be terrified after seeing what's happening to her well i will say this i think political
00:29:02.540
accusers you know accusers in a political race get it the worst right it's like not that like the harvey
00:29:09.000
weinstein accusers had it so right for god's sake rose mcgowan right secret agents following her and
00:29:14.120
trying to dupe her but if you come forward whether it's trump biden uh roy moore you know as an accuser
00:29:21.100
in an election year you're going to get it worse because as we've seen with tara reid even
00:29:25.760
constituencies that might naturally support you are now suddenly very suspicious of you um so i think
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that's rough but to your question about the me too movement it's done some good i think there's no
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question it's done some good in calling attention to the fact that you know there is harassment in
00:29:40.860
the workplace most women for most of time have just gone along with it because we kind of were told this
00:29:47.040
is how you make it in a man's world and so just sort of putting that asterisk in people's minds like
00:29:52.300
this is a thing and you know you should probably at least listen when a woman comes forward and actually
00:29:57.920
putting the idea in women's heads that they can come forward if they have something all good
00:30:01.880
but um the pendulum you know which was over here when it came to women's allegations like when i was
00:30:09.800
in college back in the early 90s if you came out with a rape allegation you were probably going to
00:30:15.760
be dismissed a lot more easily than you would be today so that so the pendulum needed to swing but
00:30:21.300
like so many of these things we've over corrected to a point where now the accused they haven't been
00:30:27.180
getting due process you can make a single allegation that's unsupported and ruin a guy's career over 30
00:30:32.220
years that's not okay either you know we got to get to a place where we settle where the women are
00:30:37.580
taken seriously or the men accusing um they're heard but due process is afforded to the person being
00:30:43.840
accused so if if tar reed is the person who can do that by exposing the hypocrisy of some of the
00:30:51.020
democrats who have you know with the believe all women nonsense which was never sincere then she's done
00:30:56.540
good for the country and you know we'll see whether her allegation has impact beyond that
00:31:00.700
okay so i want to come back to the listening versus believing and the impact on politics and stuff in
00:31:07.680
a second but i i want to go you know you just said if you made a rape allegation in the 80s or 90s
00:31:12.800
uh you would have been in trouble and what they probably would have done is shut a slut shamed you
00:31:16.880
uh and i noticed a little bit of this with her answers first where uh you know stop wearing short
00:31:24.680
skirts and she said i wasn't wearing short skirts i was just wearing stuff off the rack um uh but then
00:31:30.800
i thought one of the most uncomfortable things that she said because i think she knew um and
00:31:37.620
she felt the old slut shaming kind of thing about her underwear and how uh without getting graphic how
00:31:47.660
biden gained access um and you could see she was uncomfortable with that because of her mother and
00:31:54.120
she didn't want to tell her mother that and that makes sense to me and it makes sense to me that
00:31:58.700
she wouldn't want to say anything and it makes sense to me that she understood the slut shaming thing
00:32:05.420
that oh she's asking for it look at her skirts i'll put my lawyer hat on now and argue both ways right
00:32:12.300
you can you can say she was uncomfortable having that discussion because she didn't really want to
00:32:15.880
reveal to the world that she was wearing what i think she was saying were crotchless underwear
00:32:20.740
to to work at the u.s senate because she was supposed to see her boyfriend later and that was
00:32:28.120
her story um or you could say she seemed uncomfortable because she wasn't telling the truth
00:32:33.220
um because she had to explain how he could gain access under her skirt so quickly and you know
00:32:38.820
there's there's a belief by some on capitol hill that all the women back then in 92 93 were wearing
00:32:43.900
pantyhose that it was an either an unwritten rule or an actual rule you had to wear pantyhose on your
00:32:48.860
legs and therefore biden couldn't have done this so you know that's up to the viewer i really believe
00:32:54.440
well over the course of a 40 minute interview like that they'll walk away with a good sense
00:32:58.960
as to whether they're they're seeing a truth teller or not did you see a truth teller or not
00:33:05.460
well i'm not going to opine on my own personal belief because i want to continue reporting on this
00:33:10.560
case and i you know i shouldn't choose a side i mean i definitely have my own belief but it's irrelevant
00:33:15.560
so uh the uh is it the karen person that is not a real name can you tell me uh tell me about and
00:33:28.320
not i don't know i don't want to know who she is but tell me about her and why she is important and
00:33:33.240
why she's not comfortable coming out okay so karen is by far tara reed's best witness um she tara has
00:33:42.740
you know a corroborating witness that is far more compelling than anything we saw from christine
00:33:48.480
blasey ford i mean far more compelling um far more i mean there's no there's no contest and anybody who
00:33:54.800
tells you differently is lying to you um karen is the person who was friends with tara on capitol hill
00:34:01.540
and was in ted kennedy's office this is a young intern at the time they befriended one another and tara
00:34:07.420
told karen contemporaneously with the alleged assault that it had happened and according to
00:34:13.560
karen tara's never deviated in a single detail over 30 years about what allegedly happened that day
00:34:21.540
now i've spoken with karen at length she's a professional she's smart she's on it you know
00:34:27.500
you talk to her and you're like okay i this is a very credible person who's been successful in her life
00:34:32.600
um but at best what that establishes for tara is that tara told karen this happened it doesn't prove
00:34:41.820
that it actually happened and so you know you you would have to believe there's something a little
00:34:46.940
wacky about tara right that she would back then be making a story like this but glenn that happens
00:34:53.500
sometimes sometimes that does happen i'm not saying it happened here but people do need to allow for the
00:34:58.620
possibility that tara did make that up and has been telling witnesses for 30 years because it's a story
00:35:04.300
that somehow meant something to her and she decided to spread it