The Glenn Beck Program - March 16, 2023


Best of the Program | Guests: Missy Robertson & Carol Roth | 3⧸16⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

157.23456

Word Count

7,308

Sentence Count

501

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

On today's show, we take the economic situation one step forward, we also talk about what Texas is doing on the border, and what Florida is doing with 18 other states to stop ESG. We also have Missy Robertson on who is telling an incredible story that she actually told on the Robertson's podcast that is on the Blaze, Unashamed. She was at a library with Kirk Cameron and OReilly Gaines and the library staff freaked out on them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today's podcast, we take the economic situation one step forward.
00:00:05.480 We also talk to you about what Texas is doing on the border and what Florida is now doing
00:00:12.160 with 18 other states to stop ESG.
00:00:16.760 We also have Missy Robertson on, who is telling this incredible story that she actually told
00:00:24.740 on the Robertson's podcast that's on the blaze, Unashamed.
00:00:29.040 She was at a library with Kirk Cameron and O'Reilly Gaines, and the library staff freaked
00:00:40.700 out on them, and it's, you know, more woke-ism, which, by the way, I start the podcast defining
00:00:48.080 and an amazing woman talking about waking up and courage.
00:00:54.280 You don't want to miss a second of today's podcast.
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00:02:40.560 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:02:45.620 You know, you sick, twisted freak.
00:02:47.680 Last night I did a program on the economy and I'm hoping that I'm not right on a couple
00:02:54.980 of things.
00:02:55.580 Steve Forbes was watching the first 20 minutes and I said, so Steve, what did I get wrong?
00:03:02.420 And then he started to spook me because he was like, well, no, you got the basics right
00:03:08.120 here and they're moving to digital currency.
00:03:11.520 Run for your life.
00:03:12.420 I'm like, okay, Steve, Steve, thank you.
00:03:15.540 But there is something that I said last night that I am still not sure I understand completely.
00:03:21.080 I asked Carol Roth to look into it the way I understand it, the way it has been presented
00:03:27.300 to me shows real, a real problem with, with the Fed and the Fed is so secretive.
00:03:35.920 You know, you can't get, you can't get anything for five years.
00:03:39.240 So you can't check their books.
00:03:40.480 You can't see what they're doing for five years.
00:03:43.440 So I'm not sure what all of this means, but Carol has looked into it and I've got a couple
00:03:49.760 of other things to report to you.
00:03:52.060 We have an update on the UCC bill that is going through your state house right now.
00:03:59.180 Gosh, I can, I know I throw stuff at you and you're like, oh, the UCC bill.
00:04:05.180 Thank you, Chief Geek.
00:04:07.040 I appreciate it.
00:04:07.700 I'm going to my geek meeting here in a minute.
00:04:10.620 I know that this is stuff that I would never have talked to you about before because it's
00:04:14.720 like, okay, all right, I get it.
00:04:16.660 But this, everything is so critical right now.
00:04:19.520 The UCC bill ushers in a cryptocurrency.
00:04:24.080 It defines digital money and that's a, a cryptocurrency from the central bank, not any other cryptocurrency.
00:04:33.200 Carol Roth, who is the author of a new book called you will own nothing.
00:04:40.120 It has been pushed back for a release date of July 11th.
00:04:44.500 I think my book on kind of the same topic.
00:04:48.600 Yours, we, they make nice bookends comes out July 4th.
00:04:54.040 If you want to get Carol's book, you can go to carolroth.com forward slash Glenn and learn
00:05:02.840 all about the, the projects he has as well that will help you protect your wealth in the
00:05:07.980 face of forces working to take away your economic freedom.
00:05:12.340 Give me a couple of those.
00:05:13.960 Will you, Carol, can we start, can we start with that?
00:05:17.100 What, what, what should people be doing right now?
00:05:20.840 Because I'm starting to get the feeling this may not be over.
00:05:26.800 Yeah.
00:05:27.400 I mean, I think on a personal basis, you want to be doubling down and diversifying your portfolio
00:05:34.180 because there's forces coming at us, as you said, from everywhere.
00:05:38.920 Hang on.
00:05:39.200 Talk to me about somebody who's never paid attention to their 401k.
00:05:42.900 And that is the extent of their portfolio.
00:05:47.060 Yes.
00:05:47.660 Well, I mean, obviously this is not financial advice and anything that you do should be based
00:05:52.500 on a discussion with a financial advisor.
00:05:54.780 If you have one based on your own objectives and risk tolerance, that's the caveat because
00:05:59.200 otherwise the government's going to come after Glenn and I for giving out financial advice.
00:06:03.860 And we don't do that.
00:06:04.540 But I think that if you have all of your eggs in one basket, you're 100% exposed to stock
00:06:11.680 or maybe, you know, you've never trusted the market.
00:06:14.080 So you have all of your money sitting in the mattress.
00:06:16.540 You want to make sure that you have things in different form factors.
00:06:20.580 Certainly, if you have a home or if you have the opportunity to buy some land, that's a great
00:06:27.080 thing.
00:06:27.480 If you have the opportunity to diversify with some physical metals, not, you know, an ETF,
00:06:33.800 but physical metals, gold, silver, et cetera, that's a good thing.
00:06:37.880 Having some exposure to less risky bonds, although less risky these days means, you know, all
00:06:44.380 different kinds of things.
00:06:45.400 That's a good thing.
00:06:46.100 And making sure that you have, you know, kind of the basics, you know, prepped to be able
00:06:50.600 to get through a difficult period is a good thing.
00:06:53.020 So it's really important that you have that level of diversification because, A, we don't
00:06:58.340 know, you know, where the issue is going to come from first.
00:07:01.540 And we also don't know the time frame.
00:07:03.940 And I think that's the most important thing is that, you know, we see the trajectory that's
00:07:08.780 happening, but we don't know if this is something that's going to happen within six months or
00:07:13.820 if this takes, you know, a full 10 or 15 years to undo itself.
00:07:18.100 By 2025.
00:07:19.440 Mark my words, by 2025.
00:07:21.000 But there are all kinds of things that can happen in the meantime.
00:07:24.800 So you want to make sure that you have both the opportunity for capital appreciation, especially
00:07:30.100 since they are decreasing the purchasing power of your dollar and you want to make sure that
00:07:34.660 you're keeping pace with inflation and not losing out, but also focusing on capital
00:07:39.340 preservations, form factors that you can control in terms of your wealth so that, you know, you're
00:07:45.720 not SOL, so to speak, you know, dependent on the situation.
00:07:50.120 That's the best thing you can do right now is really diversify.
00:07:53.460 Okay.
00:07:54.120 Can you explain Credit Suisse for me?
00:07:57.440 Because that was having problems.
00:07:59.420 They had to run to their central bank to get $54 million or billion dollars.
00:08:04.040 And then I haven't heard boo about Deutsche Bank, which is always, I mean, in good times,
00:08:13.760 it's like, we're about to go under.
00:08:16.260 Yes.
00:08:16.700 And then there's also First Republic, too, that's, you know, in the mix today.
00:08:20.700 So there's all different, all kinds of fun afoot in the global banking system.
00:08:24.980 All right.
00:08:25.060 So let's start with Credit Suisse.
00:08:26.300 And, you know, to be fair, Credit Suisse has been just a mess for a long time.
00:08:31.900 This is a bank that has been losing money.
00:08:34.540 I think their 2022 fiscal report showed that they lost something on the order equivalent
00:08:40.620 about $8 billion.
00:08:42.220 So this is not a bank that's known for being particularly well run.
00:08:46.280 They've gotten caught up in all kinds of scandals and messes.
00:08:49.300 I don't know if you remember, I think it was 2021, there was a hedge fund, Bill Wang's hedge
00:08:55.660 fund, who blew up Archegos.
00:08:57.560 And there were all different kinds of big banks that were involved.
00:09:01.860 And oh, by the way, the smart banks all got out of that really early and had almost no
00:09:06.080 exposure.
00:09:07.040 And one of the banks that was left holding the bag was Credit Suisse.
00:09:10.920 I think that their exposure that they said at the time was up to something like $5.5 billion.
00:09:15.980 So this is a bank that's had all kinds of issues.
00:09:20.160 Can I ask you a question?
00:09:22.000 Yes, go ahead.
00:09:22.600 We didn't have these problems when I was growing up.
00:09:26.500 And it is it.
00:09:28.380 I mean, we did, but not like this.
00:09:31.800 It did the when the banks were allowed to become stockbrokers at the same time they're
00:09:40.240 a bank.
00:09:41.480 Isn't that the real problem?
00:09:43.120 Shouldn't we separate these banks from stock houses or, I mean, investment houses?
00:09:49.040 Investment banks.
00:09:49.720 Yeah.
00:09:49.980 So this actually happened while I was an investment banker.
00:09:52.920 I worked for a really great investment bank that once this key provision of Glass-Steagall
00:09:57.720 that separated investment banks from the banking system was repealed in the Clinton years,
00:10:03.020 you know, it was a free for all.
00:10:04.980 And we got gobbled up first by Nations Bank, and then they merged with Bank of America.
00:10:09.540 So I went through this, you know, kind of on a real-time basis.
00:10:13.060 So I think there's sort of two different aspects to it.
00:10:16.040 One is that's certainly the issue.
00:10:18.540 We know that more consolidation creates more systemic risk.
00:10:22.160 If you have things spread out, they may happen more frequently, but they're smaller in nature.
00:10:26.440 When you consolidate things together, then that creates too big to fail in a real situation.
00:10:33.860 You know, so I think that that's kind of the issue.
00:10:36.800 And then the other one is just the financialization of everything.
00:10:40.780 If you think about what's happened over the last decades, you know, with derivative products
00:10:46.500 and more risks and the, you know, the finance on top of finance, the system has really become
00:10:52.320 very bastardized and has gotten away from kind of the core of what it was meant to do.
00:10:57.720 And if you look at the United States in terms of, you know, our GDP, what is our biggest industry?
00:11:04.520 21% of our GDP is financial services, including insurance.
00:11:09.140 So, you know, there's been a good side to that, but there's also obviously been a lot of problems.
00:11:14.540 So, Carl Icahn said, what, yesterday, day before, and there's a few people that are saying this,
00:11:22.480 that the bailout of Silicon Valley Bank is really the moment that we are no longer a free market,
00:11:33.660 you know, kind of system.
00:11:36.080 You know, I saw that.
00:11:38.680 I think I saw Ken Griffin say it.
00:11:40.380 I don't know if Carl Icahn said it.
00:11:41.860 Perhaps he said that as well.
00:11:43.520 I mean, it's really laughable.
00:11:45.360 I mean, the moment that we stopped being a capitalist system was back, you know, on Black
00:11:51.320 Monday when the Fed stepped in and decided that they were going to be able to support the
00:11:56.240 market no matter what happened.
00:11:57.580 And that accelerated, you know, with abandon during the Great Recession financial crisis.
00:12:02.420 I mean, up until that point, we never had the Fed interfere in the markets, you know,
00:12:08.640 the way that we're seeing now.
00:12:09.960 It wasn't when, as I said, when I was growing up as a now recovering investment banker, but
00:12:14.160 back at the time, like, we never paid attention to what the Fed did.
00:12:18.400 It was like a mechanism of, you know, of the markets.
00:12:20.820 But it wasn't that important.
00:12:22.400 We focused on fundamentals.
00:12:24.000 Now, you know, that's the God center of the market.
00:12:27.120 Are we letting a handful of people play God with the economy?
00:12:30.480 And they're not doing a very good job, by the way.
00:12:33.020 So the idea that these people who have benefited from nearly 15 years of low interest rate policy
00:12:39.960 and easy money that has transferred money from Main Street to Wall Street now think that,
00:12:45.940 you know, somebody getting their payroll and not having that blown up is the end of capitalism
00:12:51.720 is really, really, you know, kind of distasteful.
00:12:55.620 Let me just, I want to touch on the Fed thing, the question that I had, but
00:13:00.320 I think it's so geeky that really, is it something to worry about?
00:13:06.180 Let me just ask you that.
00:13:07.360 Is it anything to worry about what I shared with you on the Fed?
00:13:11.260 So, I mean, I think it's just derivative of the fact that the Fed has become something to worry about.
00:13:18.100 They are a menace to society.
00:13:20.640 Their role has grown into something, you know, it's kind of like Dr. Frankenstein,
00:13:25.300 like we need to stop the monster.
00:13:27.480 And the powers that they have, you know, are just completely screwing up
00:13:33.260 and creating all these ripple effects that clearly either they can't see or they want to have happen.
00:13:39.220 And either way, the outcome is not great for the average American.
00:13:42.100 Okay, I want to switch and talk about the Uniform Commercial Code.
00:13:49.280 This is the redefining money.
00:13:53.280 And I have talked to legislators all over the country,
00:13:57.060 and they say they have never seen coordinated pushback, even on ESG like this.
00:14:03.600 Because they said there is just massive power and money behind this, trying to convince everybody,
00:14:10.440 oh, no, no, no, it's no big deal.
00:14:13.140 Are you up on it enough to be able to talk about it?
00:14:18.300 So let me tell you what I do know.
00:14:21.120 In terms of, and I'm not a lawyer, I don't even play one on Glenn Beck's program.
00:14:25.760 But what I do know is in order for us to have a central bank digital currency,
00:14:31.720 it needs approval by Congress.
00:14:34.860 So the more things that we have that start to change the definition of what money is
00:14:40.700 and put that on a path to be stuck in the back of some bill
00:14:45.420 and for nobody to know that this has happened is a really scary thing.
00:14:50.720 And while, as I said, I cannot interpret the legal language
00:14:53.540 because I don't have that expertise to say, would that count?
00:14:58.280 It kind of really sounds like that.
00:15:00.260 Yeah.
00:15:01.040 And it's blocking the way for cryptocurrency like Bitcoin.
00:15:06.440 It will not be considered money, only the central bank digital currency.
00:15:12.600 And I don't know if you saw last night's show with Steve Forbes,
00:15:15.460 but he was, I mean, very animated on cryptocurrency from the federal government.
00:15:22.020 He's, he agreed with what you and I talked about yesterday, end of freedom, full stop.
00:15:28.080 And let's also talk about, first of all, love Steve Forbes, long time good friend.
00:15:32.100 He's a really, really smart and good guy.
00:15:34.600 But here's the interesting thing is that a digital currency from the Fed
00:15:38.880 actually isn't a cryptocurrency because a cryptocurrency's key property is decentralization
00:15:45.920 and a digital dollar is full centralization, the full taking of your freedom.
00:15:51.980 So this is exactly what they're doing, Glenn.
00:15:53.700 They're trying to conflate it.
00:15:54.920 They're saying people are really into crypto.
00:15:57.420 They know it's a good thing.
00:15:58.420 They know it's a pushback.
00:15:59.700 Let's just confuse everybody and let them think, oh, this is a crypto.
00:16:04.940 We're just getting into crypto.
00:16:06.400 No, it's not crypto.
00:16:07.560 The whole reason and purpose that people are into crypto is because they do not trust government
00:16:13.180 fiat currency and they want to have that decentralization.
00:16:17.000 The digital dollar is, even though it may live on a blockchain, it may use some of the
00:16:22.080 same technology, it is entirely centralized.
00:16:25.760 And it means the government will have absolute control of everything that you do because they
00:16:30.920 control their money, your money.
00:16:32.160 And if they control your money, they control you.
00:16:35.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:16:41.560 Would you lose hope if I said, what if Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump can't save us?
00:16:51.040 If you lose hope after hearing those words, your hope is misplaced.
00:16:57.680 What always saves America?
00:16:59.920 What saves America is Americans.
00:17:03.500 We at the last minute when all seems lost, we finally get it and go, oh, and we pull together.
00:17:12.420 Now, they've done everything they can to make sure that we we don't stay together.
00:17:16.780 But I have a sneaking suspicion that coalition that they have built is falling apart.
00:17:24.120 Courage and hope.
00:17:25.640 A letter to mainstream straddler live not by half lies by Margaret Anna Alice.
00:17:32.820 I get it.
00:17:34.120 You don't want to be called a conspiracy theorist.
00:17:36.740 You don't want to be tarred as an anti-vaxxer, a science denier, far right wing extremist.
00:17:42.120 You have your reputation to protect your credibility, your grant funding.
00:17:46.220 So you just water it down.
00:17:48.280 You tiptoe around the truth.
00:17:50.020 You don't go there.
00:17:51.820 And the philanthropists, the tyrants, the big liars, the enablers continue to profit, continue to conspire, continue to torture, continue to slaughter.
00:18:01.460 They'll tell you right to your face what they're doing.
00:18:06.440 But if you then turn around and quote them, you're the crazy one.
00:18:10.460 If you ask why a child, a teen, an athlete, other healthy adults suddenly had a heart attack or got turbo cancer or died, you are the truly disgusting one.
00:18:23.400 If you provide scientific evidence that a warp speed experimental injection being peddled by a trillion dollar industry in collusion with governments, federal agencies, the media and big tech might be dangerous.
00:18:41.360 You, not the corporations raking in billions, are the grifter.
00:18:46.100 If you ask what's causing the sudden deaths and injuries that began surging in 2021 in hopes of preventing future such tragedies, you're just morally reprehensible.
00:18:57.580 You point out that maybe we should think twice about pushing a product, you know, estimated to have killed 13 million human beings and counting.
00:19:05.460 Well, you're the major killing force globally and guilty of undermining public confidence.
00:19:10.660 If you call genocide, genocide, you're the enemy, the misinformation spreader, the anti-Semite.
00:19:16.800 If you dare point out never again is already happening, you get inquisitioned, even though the Holocaust survivors and their relatives agree with you.
00:19:28.820 You know you're living in a world of lies when the mob is more enraged at the whistleblowers revealing the deceptions, corruption and murder than they are at the lying liars,
00:19:39.000 the corrupt corruptors, the corrupt corruptors, the murdering murderers themselves.
00:19:44.120 Snowden said, when exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you're being ruled by criminals.
00:19:50.080 And guess what?
00:19:51.400 Once you start calling, once they start calling you those hideous names, you realize they're nothing more than magicians smoke.
00:20:00.180 You gradually start to give fewer and fewer craps about things.
00:20:04.760 You know you've hit zero when you feel the exhilarating liberation that comes from shouting the unfettered truth.
00:20:13.520 That's the words can never hurt you stage and you become untouchable and you start collecting libels like purple hearts.
00:20:20.700 And the more scars you can count, the more evidence of your efficacy, your threat to the hegemony.
00:20:26.840 That's when you can truly live and by truth, not by lies.
00:20:32.520 If enough of us stand up and do that, we can hold the perpetrators accountable and we can find justice.
00:20:39.100 Once you're living in alignment with your values, you'll feel the deepest joy fathomable.
00:20:43.860 And when COVID criminals have been found guilty, when the spells dissolve, the people will gradually awaken from their coma and recognize you for the hero you are.
00:20:55.300 Or not.
00:20:57.260 Most will be too ashamed to admit that they were conned, to realize they shielded fascist tyrants and attacked those trying to rescue them.
00:21:05.120 Few find that courageous humility within themselves to acknowledge their complicity in totalitarianism.
00:21:12.420 And so they will swathe themselves in soothing denial and lash out to anyone who tries to puncture it.
00:21:18.160 But you will keep trying anyway, because that is what truth-tellers do.
00:21:24.400 Your bravery will outlive you.
00:21:27.080 Your words will remain like candles lighting the path for future truth-droppers.
00:21:32.220 And you will be at peace in life and beyond.
00:21:38.040 I read that a couple of weeks ago, and I said to my staff, I need to talk to this woman.
00:21:43.120 She is amazing.
00:21:45.640 Her name is Margaret Anna Alice, and she's on the program with us now.
00:21:50.720 Hi, Margaret Ann.
00:21:52.860 Hi, Glenn.
00:21:53.880 Thank you so much for that enthusiastic greeting.
00:21:56.820 That was really sweet.
00:21:57.660 You know, I saw a bio of you and who you admire and look up to as heroes, and there are many of the same people that I look up to.
00:22:13.120 And Stolas Nietzsche, and this just screams Stolas Nietzsche to me.
00:22:16.520 Well, that was quite an honor when I heard you say that.
00:22:19.120 So, tell me about your philosophy.
00:22:24.240 You just started a new Substack, right?
00:22:27.260 Well, actually, it's been almost two years since I started it.
00:22:30.920 Oh my gosh, really?
00:22:31.940 Yeah.
00:22:32.640 April 2021 is when I first launched it.
00:22:36.720 And I just, I started it with a piece called A Primer for the Propagandized, Fear is the Mind Killer.
00:22:44.800 And I had, you know, from the beginning of the COVID scandemic or whatever you want to call it,
00:22:52.980 it was quite obvious that the propaganda was being used to psychologically manipulate people,
00:23:00.280 you know, create a state of fear and panic so people would obey and essentially following Biderman's chart of coercion,
00:23:10.540 like a recipe.
00:23:12.560 And so, I was initially attempting to sort of wake people up to this fact by reaching out through,
00:23:20.100 you know, online, local communities, next door, things like that.
00:23:23.980 And I eventually found that the censorship was so extreme, it was basically impossible to share any references.
00:23:33.520 You know, as soon as I'd post a comment, if I had a link in there to substantiating evidence,
00:23:38.120 it would get disappeared within minutes.
00:23:41.080 And so, I had, somebody had posted something at Nextdoor that basically said, you know,
00:23:47.740 these masks are not about health, they're about fear and obedience and obedience training, essentially.
00:23:55.180 And so, I wrote a pretty lengthy comment in response to that.
00:23:59.120 And by the time I was getting ready to post it, that post had been disappeared.
00:24:05.540 And so, I read it to my husband and he said, you know, you should submit that to Off Guardian.
00:24:10.880 And so, I thought, okay, well, I need a place to house it.
00:24:15.760 And I'd been thinking about creating a substack anyway.
00:24:19.000 So, just in an afternoon, just threw together a substack, published that piece,
00:24:25.300 submitted it to Off Guardian, and kind of forgot about it for a couple of weeks.
00:24:29.240 And then Kit Knightley got back to me and said that they would love to publish it.
00:24:33.900 And then that sort of kicked off my publishing career in a way.
00:24:39.940 And then my readership snowballed from there.
00:24:43.220 What is the reaction to you?
00:24:46.700 Because you are so clear.
00:24:49.240 You're obviously extraordinarily bright and well-read.
00:24:53.060 You obviously know philosophy and history really, really well.
00:24:59.880 It'd be hard to argue with you.
00:25:03.480 What is the reaction?
00:25:06.340 Well, from my readership, you know, very enthusiastic, extremely appreciative.
00:25:13.140 One of the things you probably notice that I do a lot is essentially,
00:25:17.860 I provide substantiating evidence for practically every word.
00:25:22.520 Yeah, I know.
00:25:24.120 I have hyperlinks.
00:25:26.460 So, I show my homework.
00:25:28.980 And that way, if anybody questions it or wants to explore more on their own,
00:25:33.980 I've created basically all these rabbit holes that people can go down.
00:25:38.780 And my readers are, you know, they love that.
00:25:42.620 Some people find it irritating, which I understand.
00:25:45.400 You know, I have to tell you, you know, the letter to the mainstream straddler that I just read.
00:25:51.780 It has a lot of things I had to cut out for time.
00:25:54.640 But it has a lot of things like Wampeter that I had never heard before.
00:25:58.020 And I followed the hyperlink.
00:26:00.460 And I'm like, oh, my gosh.
00:26:01.460 And so, I was only annoyed because your one article took up about an hour of my time
00:26:06.820 before I realized, wait a minute, I've got a life.
00:26:11.180 But it is, it's a great, great education.
00:26:15.180 What is your, what's your goal?
00:26:17.080 Well, when I started my sub-stack, my mission I articulated as I want to awaken the sleeping
00:26:26.400 before tyranny, well, actually, I should say unmasked totalitarianism and awaken the sleeping
00:26:31.840 before tyranny triumphs.
00:26:33.080 And that's still, you know, part of my goal, part of my mission.
00:26:38.640 But what I've found is in my many attempts to awaken the sleeping, it is quite an arduous
00:26:49.020 task if they're not willing to wake up.
00:26:52.460 And so, you know, I launched my letter series with a piece called Letter to a Covidian.
00:26:58.480 And, you know, I'm basically trying to confront the people with their hypocrisy, their discrimination,
00:27:06.740 the fact that they allowed themselves to be manipulated into becoming hateful, fearful
00:27:13.060 people.
00:27:14.620 And, you know, it is difficult when people are sort of in a state of fear, they're panicked,
00:27:22.440 and they're just clinging to these easy solutions and safety.
00:27:26.180 And Laura Dodsworth wrote a great book called A State of Fear that documents the psychological
00:27:32.920 manipulation techniques that were used specifically in the UK.
00:27:37.380 But anyway, so part of my mission has evolved in that I am reaching so many fellow dissidents
00:27:46.380 around the world.
00:27:47.980 And so, really, it's been about nurturing this really rich community of brave, brilliant,
00:27:57.520 funny, intelligent people.
00:28:00.140 And so, it's been very gratifying in that sense as well.
00:28:04.080 May I ask you, because the global reach, when I have spoken to people from different countries,
00:28:11.520 and I look at who's listening to my broadcasts, and I'll find them everywhere that you would
00:28:18.100 just not expect.
00:28:20.020 And it kind of gives me hope, because I believe it's, this is not an American problem.
00:28:26.980 I mean, I think we're a great source of it.
00:28:29.080 But this is not an American problem.
00:28:31.180 This is why there are demonstrations all over the world, because people know it's the elite
00:28:40.600 against the common man.
00:28:43.600 Yes.
00:28:44.420 Yes, absolutely.
00:28:46.720 And I love that you pointed that out earlier.
00:28:50.060 You mentioned if your hope is in Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis, your hope is in the wrong place.
00:28:56.640 Right.
00:28:56.920 And one of my recurring themes is that it is we the people against they.
00:29:06.220 And so, that's one of the reasons I wrote, I have a Profiles in Courage series, and I did
00:29:12.660 a piece on the Canadian trucker protests, who, of course, they were vilified in the media,
00:29:18.740 big surprise.
00:29:20.360 But I spent, you know, a great deal of time just listening to the stories of the people
00:29:25.940 over there, just kind of playing live streams in the background.
00:29:29.220 And there was just this upflowing of joy and emotional connection with one another.
00:29:36.740 And I called it the winter of love.
00:29:39.280 And you see when ordinary people get together in a spirit of peaceful love and clients, that is where
00:29:47.760 our power lies.
00:29:48.880 I was going to say to you a minute ago, when you were talking about, you know, you're trying
00:29:54.000 to get people out of the darkness and how they just are unwilling to go, fear and hatred
00:30:00.580 are so strong.
00:30:03.100 And they cannot be disabled with more fear or hatred.
00:30:08.260 It has to be love.
00:30:09.520 And that's hard to convince people who keep feeling like a stick in the head or a stick
00:30:16.760 in the eye.
00:30:18.620 And you kind of have some righteous indignation.
00:30:22.220 You're like, I'm not the bad guy here.
00:30:24.640 It's really hard to get them to act in love.
00:30:28.520 Yeah.
00:30:29.100 Yeah.
00:30:30.120 And I will say, in arguing with COVIDians, it has been a test of my patience.
00:30:35.440 Yeah, I bet it has.
00:30:37.260 Maintain my composure and be compassionate toward them.
00:30:40.820 And I do a rolling interview series called Dissident Dialogues.
00:30:46.500 And I call them rolling because as I work through the questions, I publish them one at a time
00:30:52.680 for my paid subscribers.
00:30:53.940 And then when it's completed, I make it available to the public.
00:30:57.320 But right now, I'm engaged in one with Meredith Miller, who is a holistic coach.
00:31:02.860 And I have found her insights into the psyche of what is occurring absolutely fascinating.
00:31:10.440 And I've been studying this, been writing about it for three years.
00:31:13.960 And of course, I've been studying these topics for many more years before this.
00:31:18.300 But she articulates it in such a way that really helped me understand it from the perspective
00:31:23.560 of these victims of this psychological manipulation.
00:31:27.220 So, for example, you know, she sees them as victims of narcissistic, emotional, psychological
00:31:35.860 abuse.
00:31:36.860 And she calls it a psycho-neuro-spiritual state of captivity.
00:31:42.540 And so, if you think of them as being like abused partners in a, you know, an unhealthy
00:31:49.360 relationship, and they have Stockholm Syndrome, they are defending their captors.
00:31:55.260 And so, anyone who tries to get them rescued from that situation before they are ready, they're
00:32:03.040 going to resist.
00:32:04.640 And so, Meredith basically said they have to be the ones who make, they have to have this
00:32:11.140 moment, this epiphany, this moment of disruptive truth that helps them break through and recognize
00:32:19.340 that they're being abused, and that those of us who are outside trying to wrest them from that abuse.
00:32:26.120 Once they wake up, and, you know, she said, my sub stack is extremely valuable for people when they are
00:32:33.480 awakening, because they're thirsty for that truth and that evidence to support their newfound
00:32:39.420 realizations.
00:32:40.760 Margaret, I would love to continue our conversation.
00:32:43.400 I'm going to become a paid subscriber of your sub stack.
00:32:47.160 I think you're amazing, and I hope you don't mind.
00:32:50.700 I would love to share some of your ideas.
00:32:54.320 Oh, please do.
00:32:55.180 Because you're a remarkable writer.
00:32:57.820 Thank you so much.
00:32:59.580 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:33:03.760 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:33:05.460 So, I was writing a story today about Duck Dynasty star Missy Robertson, and she was out with Kirk Cameron.
00:33:16.420 They were doing a book event at a library in Tennessee, Hendersonville, which doesn't sound like a huge
00:33:24.120 metropolis, but they were doing it at the public library, and they had real problems.
00:33:31.020 I mean, the thing almost didn't happen, and as I'm reading this story, I thought, I got to call Missy and just ask her
00:33:38.320 about it.
00:33:39.040 Missy Robertson is here with us.
00:33:41.440 Missy is the author of several books.
00:33:45.300 The latest is Because You're My Family, and she was out with Kirk Cameron.
00:33:49.800 His book is As You Grow.
00:33:52.200 Hi, Missy.
00:33:52.660 How are you?
00:33:53.860 Hi.
00:33:54.400 Hi, Glenn.
00:33:54.900 Thank you for having me.
00:33:55.680 We're great.
00:33:56.200 Yeah, so good to talk to you.
00:33:58.280 Yes, good to talk to you.
00:33:59.300 So, you know, if you're watching your podcast or your show on Blaze TV or on YouTube, you
00:34:08.800 bring this up and talk about it.
00:34:11.820 Can you retell the story?
00:34:15.300 Yes.
00:34:15.680 Actually, when I came home from that trip, I told my husband, Jace, who's one of the talent
00:34:22.560 on Unashamed, with Phil and Jace Robertson on Blaze TV, I said, can I be on your podcast
00:34:27.540 tomorrow?
00:34:27.900 And I never asked for that.
00:34:30.240 They want me to be on there, and I'm either too busy or uninterested to be on there with
00:34:35.160 my family, just being totally transparent.
00:34:38.520 But so when I said, I need to talk about something on the podcast, it kind of shocked him, and
00:34:43.060 he just said yes immediately, which was really funny.
00:34:45.540 I said, you don't even know what I want to talk about.
00:34:47.000 But what had happened was literally the day before, and I was in Tennessee with my children.
00:34:53.340 Most of my children and both of my grandbabies live in the Nashville area, and I was spending
00:34:58.200 some time with them.
00:35:00.220 And Brave Books reached out to me and said, hey, you know, Kirk's going to be on his library
00:35:06.340 tour in Hendersonville, which is not too far from where my children are.
00:35:09.800 Would you like to join him and read your book?
00:35:12.320 Absolutely.
00:35:13.420 What a wonderful idea.
00:35:15.740 Kind of wish I thought of that, to do a library tour.
00:35:18.520 And sure, what a great place to do it as well.
00:35:22.940 So that morning, I was not privy to a lot of the pushback that had been going on.
00:35:30.200 So I kind of walked in a little deer in the headlights, I think, to use a southern term.
00:35:36.640 But that morning was actually really cold, and it had been warm and beautiful all week.
00:35:44.080 That morning was like 41 degrees, raining and freezing.
00:35:49.060 And when I got there almost two hours before it opened, there was already a line formed
00:35:54.940 with children, umbrellas, babies.
00:35:57.160 So I thought, okay, I can't really believe that they're coming out for this little library
00:36:02.800 reading.
00:36:03.260 But, you know, kudos to them.
00:36:05.960 Even my children backed out at the last minute because our babies are little.
00:36:10.600 And like, Mom, we're not going to come.
00:36:12.880 I'm like, it's totally fine.
00:36:14.120 I totally understand.
00:36:16.100 So as the morning went on, the lines got longer, and Braves wanted to do some little promos
00:36:22.980 about our books inside this beautiful, I'm going to state this, this beautiful, multi-level,
00:36:29.620 beautiful, gorgeous library with tons of windows inside was like, just really massive for a
00:36:35.460 small little town.
00:36:36.220 I was not expecting that.
00:36:37.640 Right.
00:36:38.260 And so the depth of the library behind us was just such a great, beautiful place to do some
00:36:43.820 promos.
00:36:44.240 And was just kind of snuck up on when I realized that people started making noise in the closed
00:36:53.120 library.
00:36:54.100 People were outside.
00:36:55.540 And where's this noise coming from?
00:36:57.580 And I realized over the next few minutes that it was being done on purpose to distract from
00:37:06.460 what we were trying to do is make these videos, just promoting, just promoting these books.
00:37:10.480 And these books, what's so silly is these books are about unconditional love of family,
00:37:16.720 forgiveness, the fruits of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness,
00:37:22.720 self-control.
00:37:25.140 These are kind of ironic when you think about some of the things that we're trying to push.
00:37:30.880 They said that we're trying to push on children and their families.
00:37:34.460 So wait a minute.
00:37:34.940 So let me ask you, why didn't you just ask the librarian to do what all librarians do and
00:37:40.100 say, shh, who were these people that were?
00:37:44.020 They were the library staff.
00:37:45.780 But again, like I said before, I wasn't really sure what was going on.
00:37:51.040 And I, you know, being in reality TV, we're not on sets anywhere.
00:37:57.160 We're in real everyday circumstances.
00:37:59.140 And so I thought, you know, maybe people, we're in their environment.
00:38:03.900 They forgot to lower their voices.
00:38:06.100 We're trying to do something, you know, so can we ask them nicely to, you know, be quiet?
00:38:10.020 Well, that happened like three times.
00:38:11.300 We even kind of laughed about it.
00:38:12.300 Like, shh, I think Kirk said, it's a library, shh, you know, like, ha ha.
00:38:15.820 And it just wasn't happening.
00:38:19.900 And we realized there was a moment where I thought something is wrong when one of the
00:38:27.440 brave team asked the director who was coming kind of out into the open.
00:38:31.960 And he said, hey, can you ask your staff to hold it down?
00:38:35.280 And he fired back.
00:38:36.840 You're not even supposed to be here.
00:38:38.560 And Kirk shot back.
00:38:40.720 Yes, we are supposed to be here.
00:38:42.520 And these were very loud voices.
00:38:44.140 And it kind of took me off guard.
00:38:46.420 Like something.
00:38:47.880 Are we not supposed to be in the library?
00:38:49.260 Like, I start thinking about, are we doing something we're not supposed to do?
00:38:53.380 I'm such a rule follower.
00:38:54.700 And I don't want to upset anyone, you know.
00:38:56.680 So, and brave, just look, the brave team just looked at me and was like, we're fine.
00:39:00.500 And yes, we're supposed to be here.
00:39:01.600 So, did they, the lady behind the, this is what you said on Unashamed, the lady at the
00:39:07.760 front desk of the library said, we're just trying to look for things to deal with our
00:39:11.820 stress.
00:39:13.140 Yes, that's, that was, I think, the actual moment where it confirmed in my mind.
00:39:20.160 And really, look, I'm like, am I, I'm just sitting there thinking that everyone, we're
00:39:25.740 welcome.
00:39:26.420 There's hundreds of people outside.
00:39:28.380 So, this was really hard for me to wrap my brain around, that someone was trying to thwart
00:39:34.140 this process.
00:39:35.240 And so, when she said that, after Riley, you know, Riley Gaines was also there reading for
00:39:40.840 Bethany Hamilton's book.
00:39:42.800 Bethany was in Hawaii and couldn't come.
00:39:45.620 So, Riley grew up in that area.
00:39:47.820 She said, I grew up five minutes from this library.
00:39:50.420 So, this was her hometown.
00:39:51.980 So, I started to think about what would happen if, you know, our little West Monroe Library,
00:39:56.780 West Monroe, Louisiana Library, if some of the people were acting like that against someone
00:40:03.000 that I had invited, or was invited to my hometown library, I would be embarrassed.
00:40:09.220 And I think, you know, she took it upon herself to kind of march over there and say, look, we're
00:40:13.980 asking for 60 seconds of quiet.
00:40:16.880 Can you not turn off the music that you're blaring?
00:40:20.860 There's no one in here but us.
00:40:22.420 And we're asking for 60 seconds.
00:40:24.740 And she said that she didn't think she had the authority to make that decision to turn
00:40:29.040 off the radio.
00:40:30.060 Oh, my gosh.
00:40:32.200 So, I mean, nothing is probably going to happen to these people.
00:40:36.940 I don't know if you fired a, you know, or filed a complaint.
00:40:40.080 But this actually started with the brave book people because they wanted to turn Kirk down.
00:40:53.440 Right?
00:40:54.440 So, I don't know all of the facts about that.
00:40:58.940 But I was learning as I was standing there.
00:41:01.260 We had a job to do.
00:41:02.660 We had hundreds of people waiting for us.
00:41:05.100 And we were really excited about it.
00:41:06.560 These books are really good.
00:41:07.920 They are so sweet, the ones that we were reading, especially that day, to all of these
00:41:13.460 children and families.
00:41:15.200 And I'm so proud of this book and for Kirk's book because they're biblical values without,
00:41:22.180 you know, basically shoving verses down children's throats is what I think some of the quotes
00:41:27.880 have been said about us.
00:41:29.000 But they're not that way at all.
00:41:30.560 They're beautifully written and illustrated.
00:41:33.100 And it's a partnership that the authors have with brave books.
00:41:36.840 And so, and like my book is about unconditional love and forgiveness of family.
00:41:42.620 And I loved when I talk about it to speak about how the Father in heaven and Jesus who created
00:41:48.460 us love us unconditionally.
00:41:50.360 That there is nothing in the world that we will ever do to make him stop loving us.
00:41:56.200 We will disappoint him.
00:41:57.260 We have things that we have to make up for.
00:42:00.860 There are consequences to our behavior, but he will never stop loving us.
00:42:05.280 And it mirrors with our own children and parenting.
00:42:09.100 It's beautiful.
00:42:09.840 Isn't it amazing, Missy, how the world is so upside down that that is considered evil indoctrination?
00:42:20.100 Yes, it's really sad.
00:42:24.200 And I don't get angry a lot because I feel like the older I get and the more my relationship
00:42:30.580 with my creator grows, the more I love him and appreciate his sacrifice for me.
00:42:36.620 And the more I understand why he loves me so much, especially now that I have grandbabies.
00:42:42.060 I have two generations of children behind me that I love unconditionally and would do anything
00:42:46.600 for.
00:42:46.980 And I want everyone to experience that relationship like I have with him.
00:42:54.080 And so now, you know, there have been consequences to that library and to their staff's behavior.
00:43:01.760 I got a text from Kirk last night, actually, telling me that the library director was fired.
00:43:09.140 Wow.
00:43:09.820 And so I don't have a lot of confirmation of that.
00:43:13.320 But my initial response was, whoa.
00:43:17.660 Yeah, that I would not expect that.
00:43:20.420 It's good or sweet.
00:43:21.080 I told Jace, my husband last night, I said, when I told him, he said, good.
00:43:26.020 And I thought, I mean, it is good, but we don't wish ill on anyone.
00:43:31.180 I know.
00:43:31.720 I know.
00:43:32.140 I feel like they do on us, but we really don't wish ill on anyone.
00:43:35.920 But we have to stand up for what they are trying to do with our children and our grandchildren.
00:43:44.420 And now I've got two brand new grandbabies that my children are having to make decisions
00:43:50.140 on where to put them in school, if they're even going to go to a school.
00:43:55.820 It's a very difficult situation for them, and I do not envy them.
00:44:00.720 We're going to support them 100% in whatever decision they make, but they're really taking
00:44:06.440 it seriously.
00:44:07.520 And I'm afraid that if we don't, we're going to lose a lot of our children.
00:44:11.880 Oh, we already have, unfortunately, because we didn't speak up.
00:44:16.220 And, you know, you said, you know, the stronger I am with the Lord, you've just experienced
00:44:23.460 his love.
00:44:24.560 And I'll tell you, the stronger I become in the Lord, I find myself in those situations
00:44:29.860 with greater compassion for the person.
00:44:33.260 It's really weird.
00:44:34.500 It's, you don't get angry.
00:44:36.440 You just, you're like, what kind of suffering did you go through or are you going through?
00:44:42.400 What are you carrying around?
00:44:44.160 Yeah, it's so sad.
00:44:46.920 I mean, well, I'll be honest, I was angry.
00:44:49.840 Oh, no, yeah, I know.
00:44:51.100 I was angry at first.
00:44:52.440 You know, that's what led me to want to talk about this.
00:44:56.900 You know, I got home that day.
00:44:58.960 We have a place there close to my kids, and my son Cole was there, and he's my peacemaking,
00:45:06.180 laid-back child.
00:45:07.620 Let's don't ruffle any feathers.
00:45:09.280 And he was like, Mom, you need to talk about this.
00:45:12.520 Yeah, there's a, you know, people think that if you're loving and you're following in the
00:45:16.300 footsteps of Christ that you're just never going to, you know, say anything.
00:45:19.980 That's not fighting.
00:45:20.980 No, no, no.
00:45:21.800 No.
00:45:22.400 It's standing firm in the truth with compassion to other people, but that doesn't mean you
00:45:27.660 don't say anything.
00:45:29.040 You cannot live your life quiet, especially in this world.
00:45:32.820 If you are not an enemy of evil, then you're really nothing.
00:45:38.740 You're, you know, you're nothing.
00:45:40.660 You know, and Riley, Riley was amazing what she did.
00:45:44.320 And I was taken so off guard for a second.
00:45:47.320 She was like, this is not happening, and walked over there and was not unkind at all, but very
00:45:52.140 direct.
00:45:52.880 And we have all of that on video.
00:45:55.120 You know, Brave was steadily rolling.
00:45:56.740 I started videoing with my own phone, because I thought, is this really, this is happening.
00:46:01.720 This is what I've been seeing on the news happening from coast to coast, but not here in the middle,
00:46:08.200 the flyover state.
00:46:09.260 This is not happening in our little hometowns, but it is.
00:46:11.940 Yeah, people don't have any idea.
00:46:14.860 It is in all of our communities.
00:46:17.420 Missy, thank you so much.
00:46:18.940 And say hi to everybody for me.
00:46:20.740 And we, we so appreciate Unashamed, uh, and, and all of your work.
00:46:25.760 So thank you.
00:46:26.740 Thank you.
00:46:27.380 Thank you so much.
00:46:28.460 Bye-bye.