The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Missy Robertson & Carol Roth ｜ 3⧸16⧸23

00:00:00.000 Today's podcast, we take the economic situation one step forward.

00:00:05.480 We also talk to you about what Texas is doing on the border and what Florida is now doing

00:00:12.160 with 18 other states to stop ESG.

00:00:16.760 We also have Missy Robertson on, who is telling this incredible story that she actually told

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00:00:29.040 She was at a library with Kirk Cameron and O'Reilly Gaines, and the library staff freaked

00:00:40.700 out on them, and it's, you know, more woke-ism, which, by the way, I start the podcast defining

00:00:48.080 and an amazing woman talking about waking up and courage.

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00:02:40.560 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. 1.00

00:02:45.620 You know, you sick, twisted freak. 0.97

00:02:47.680 Last night I did a program on the economy and I'm hoping that I'm not right on a couple 0.99

00:02:54.980 of things.

00:02:55.580 Steve Forbes was watching the first 20 minutes and I said, so Steve, what did I get wrong?

00:03:02.420 And then he started to spook me because he was like, well, no, you got the basics right

00:03:08.120 here and they're moving to digital currency.

00:03:11.520 Run for your life.

00:03:12.420 I'm like, okay, Steve, Steve, thank you.

00:03:15.540 But there is something that I said last night that I am still not sure I understand completely.

00:03:21.080 I asked Carol Roth to look into it the way I understand it, the way it has been presented

00:03:27.300 to me shows real, a real problem with, with the Fed and the Fed is so secretive.

00:03:35.920 You know, you can't get, you can't get anything for five years.

00:03:39.240 So you can't check their books.

00:03:40.480 You can't see what they're doing for five years.

00:03:43.440 So I'm not sure what all of this means, but Carol has looked into it and I've got a couple

00:03:49.760 of other things to report to you.

00:03:52.060 We have an update on the UCC bill that is going through your state house right now.

00:03:59.180 Gosh, I can, I know I throw stuff at you and you're like, oh, the UCC bill.

00:04:05.180 Thank you, Chief Geek.

00:04:07.040 I appreciate it.

00:04:07.700 I'm going to my geek meeting here in a minute.

00:04:10.620 I know that this is stuff that I would never have talked to you about before because it's

00:04:14.720 like, okay, all right, I get it.

00:04:16.660 But this, everything is so critical right now.

00:04:19.520 The UCC bill ushers in a cryptocurrency.

00:04:24.080 It defines digital money and that's a, a cryptocurrency from the central bank, not any other cryptocurrency.

00:04:33.200 Carol Roth, who is the author of a new book called you will own nothing.

00:04:40.120 It has been pushed back for a release date of July 11th.

00:04:44.500 I think my book on kind of the same topic.

00:04:48.600 Yours, we, they make nice bookends comes out July 4th.

00:04:54.040 If you want to get Carol's book, you can go to carolroth.com forward slash Glenn and learn

00:05:02.840 all about the, the projects he has as well that will help you protect your wealth in the

00:05:07.980 face of forces working to take away your economic freedom.

00:05:12.340 Give me a couple of those.

00:05:13.960 Will you, Carol, can we start, can we start with that?

00:05:17.100 What, what, what should people be doing right now?

00:05:20.840 Because I'm starting to get the feeling this may not be over.

00:05:26.800 Yeah.

00:05:27.400 I mean, I think on a personal basis, you want to be doubling down and diversifying your portfolio

00:05:34.180 because there's forces coming at us, as you said, from everywhere.

00:05:38.920 Hang on.

00:05:39.200 Talk to me about somebody who's never paid attention to their 401k.

00:05:42.900 And that is the extent of their portfolio.

00:05:47.060 Yes.

00:05:47.660 Well, I mean, obviously this is not financial advice and anything that you do should be based

00:05:52.500 on a discussion with a financial advisor.

00:05:54.780 If you have one based on your own objectives and risk tolerance, that's the caveat because

00:05:59.200 otherwise the government's going to come after Glenn and I for giving out financial advice.

00:06:03.860 And we don't do that.

00:06:04.540 But I think that if you have all of your eggs in one basket, you're 100% exposed to stock

00:06:11.680 or maybe, you know, you've never trusted the market.

00:06:14.080 So you have all of your money sitting in the mattress.

00:06:16.540 You want to make sure that you have things in different form factors.

00:06:20.580 Certainly, if you have a home or if you have the opportunity to buy some land, that's a great

00:06:27.080 thing.

00:06:27.480 If you have the opportunity to diversify with some physical metals, not, you know, an ETF,

00:06:33.800 but physical metals, gold, silver, et cetera, that's a good thing.

00:06:37.880 Having some exposure to less risky bonds, although less risky these days means, you know, all

00:06:44.380 different kinds of things.

00:06:45.400 That's a good thing.

00:06:46.100 And making sure that you have, you know, kind of the basics, you know, prepped to be able

00:06:50.600 to get through a difficult period is a good thing.

00:06:53.020 So it's really important that you have that level of diversification because, A, we don't

00:06:58.340 know, you know, where the issue is going to come from first.

00:07:01.540 And we also don't know the time frame.

00:07:03.940 And I think that's the most important thing is that, you know, we see the trajectory that's

00:07:08.780 happening, but we don't know if this is something that's going to happen within six months or

00:07:13.820 if this takes, you know, a full 10 or 15 years to undo itself.

00:07:18.100 By 2025.

00:07:19.440 Mark my words, by 2025.

00:07:21.000 But there are all kinds of things that can happen in the meantime.

00:07:24.800 So you want to make sure that you have both the opportunity for capital appreciation, especially

00:07:30.100 since they are decreasing the purchasing power of your dollar and you want to make sure that

00:07:34.660 you're keeping pace with inflation and not losing out, but also focusing on capital

00:07:39.340 preservations, form factors that you can control in terms of your wealth so that, you know, you're

00:07:45.720 not SOL, so to speak, you know, dependent on the situation.

00:07:50.120 That's the best thing you can do right now is really diversify.

00:07:53.460 Okay.

00:07:54.120 Can you explain Credit Suisse for me?

00:07:57.440 Because that was having problems.

00:07:59.420 They had to run to their central bank to get $54 million or billion dollars.

00:08:04.040 And then I haven't heard boo about Deutsche Bank, which is always, I mean, in good times,

00:08:13.760 it's like, we're about to go under.

00:08:16.260 Yes.

00:08:16.700 And then there's also First Republic, too, that's, you know, in the mix today.

00:08:20.700 So there's all different, all kinds of fun afoot in the global banking system.

00:08:24.980 All right.

00:08:25.060 So let's start with Credit Suisse.

00:08:26.300 And, you know, to be fair, Credit Suisse has been just a mess for a long time.

00:08:31.900 This is a bank that has been losing money.

00:08:34.540 I think their 2022 fiscal report showed that they lost something on the order equivalent

00:08:40.620 about $8 billion.

00:08:42.220 So this is not a bank that's known for being particularly well run.

00:08:46.280 They've gotten caught up in all kinds of scandals and messes.

00:08:49.300 I don't know if you remember, I think it was 2021, there was a hedge fund, Bill Wang's hedge

00:08:55.660 fund, who blew up Archegos.

00:08:57.560 And there were all different kinds of big banks that were involved.

00:09:01.860 And oh, by the way, the smart banks all got out of that really early and had almost no

00:09:06.080 exposure.

00:09:07.040 And one of the banks that was left holding the bag was Credit Suisse.

00:09:10.920 I think that their exposure that they said at the time was up to something like $5.5 billion.

00:09:15.980 So this is a bank that's had all kinds of issues.

00:09:20.160 Can I ask you a question?

00:09:22.000 Yes, go ahead.

00:09:22.600 We didn't have these problems when I was growing up.

00:09:26.500 And it is it.

00:09:28.380 I mean, we did, but not like this.

00:09:31.800 It did the when the banks were allowed to become stockbrokers at the same time they're

00:09:40.240 a bank.

00:09:41.480 Isn't that the real problem?

00:09:43.120 Shouldn't we separate these banks from stock houses or, I mean, investment houses?

00:09:49.040 Investment banks.

00:09:49.720 Yeah.

00:09:49.980 So this actually happened while I was an investment banker.

00:09:52.920 I worked for a really great investment bank that once this key provision of Glass-Steagall

00:09:57.720 that separated investment banks from the banking system was repealed in the Clinton years,

00:10:03.020 you know, it was a free for all.

00:10:04.980 And we got gobbled up first by Nations Bank, and then they merged with Bank of America.

00:10:09.540 So I went through this, you know, kind of on a real-time basis.

00:10:13.060 So I think there's sort of two different aspects to it.

00:10:16.040 One is that's certainly the issue.

00:10:18.540 We know that more consolidation creates more systemic risk.

00:10:22.160 If you have things spread out, they may happen more frequently, but they're smaller in nature.

00:10:26.440 When you consolidate things together, then that creates too big to fail in a real situation.

00:10:33.860 You know, so I think that that's kind of the issue.

00:10:36.800 And then the other one is just the financialization of everything.

00:10:40.780 If you think about what's happened over the last decades, you know, with derivative products

00:10:46.500 and more risks and the, you know, the finance on top of finance, the system has really become

00:10:52.320 very bastardized and has gotten away from kind of the core of what it was meant to do.

00:10:57.720 And if you look at the United States in terms of, you know, our GDP, what is our biggest industry?

00:11:04.520 21% of our GDP is financial services, including insurance.

00:11:09.140 So, you know, there's been a good side to that, but there's also obviously been a lot of problems.

00:11:14.540 So, Carl Icahn said, what, yesterday, day before, and there's a few people that are saying this,

00:11:22.480 that the bailout of Silicon Valley Bank is really the moment that we are no longer a free market,

00:11:33.660 you know, kind of system.

00:11:36.080 You know, I saw that.

00:11:38.680 I think I saw Ken Griffin say it.

00:11:40.380 I don't know if Carl Icahn said it.

00:11:41.860 Perhaps he said that as well.

00:11:43.520 I mean, it's really laughable.

00:11:45.360 I mean, the moment that we stopped being a capitalist system was back, you know, on Black 0.74

00:11:51.320 Monday when the Fed stepped in and decided that they were going to be able to support the

00:11:56.240 market no matter what happened.

00:11:57.580 And that accelerated, you know, with abandon during the Great Recession financial crisis.

00:12:02.420 I mean, up until that point, we never had the Fed interfere in the markets, you know,

00:12:08.640 the way that we're seeing now.

00:12:09.960 It wasn't when, as I said, when I was growing up as a now recovering investment banker, but

00:12:14.160 back at the time, like, we never paid attention to what the Fed did.

00:12:18.400 It was like a mechanism of, you know, of the markets.

00:12:20.820 But it wasn't that important.

00:12:22.400 We focused on fundamentals.

00:12:24.000 Now, you know, that's the God center of the market.

00:12:27.120 Are we letting a handful of people play God with the economy? 0.93

00:12:30.480 And they're not doing a very good job, by the way.

00:12:33.020 So the idea that these people who have benefited from nearly 15 years of low interest rate policy

00:12:39.960 and easy money that has transferred money from Main Street to Wall Street now think that,

00:12:45.940 you know, somebody getting their payroll and not having that blown up is the end of capitalism

00:12:51.720 is really, really, you know, kind of distasteful.

00:12:55.620 Let me just, I want to touch on the Fed thing, the question that I had, but

00:13:00.320 I think it's so geeky that really, is it something to worry about?

00:13:06.180 Let me just ask you that.

00:13:07.360 Is it anything to worry about what I shared with you on the Fed?

00:13:11.260 So, I mean, I think it's just derivative of the fact that the Fed has become something to worry about.

00:13:18.100 They are a menace to society.

00:13:20.640 Their role has grown into something, you know, it's kind of like Dr. Frankenstein,

00:13:25.300 like we need to stop the monster.

00:13:27.480 And the powers that they have, you know, are just completely screwing up

00:13:33.260 and creating all these ripple effects that clearly either they can't see or they want to have happen.

00:13:39.220 And either way, the outcome is not great for the average American.

00:13:42.100 Okay, I want to switch and talk about the Uniform Commercial Code.

00:13:49.280 This is the redefining money.

00:13:53.280 And I have talked to legislators all over the country,

00:13:57.060 and they say they have never seen coordinated pushback, even on ESG like this.

00:14:03.600 Because they said there is just massive power and money behind this, trying to convince everybody,

00:14:10.440 oh, no, no, no, it's no big deal.

00:14:13.140 Are you up on it enough to be able to talk about it?

00:14:18.300 So let me tell you what I do know.

00:14:21.120 In terms of, and I'm not a lawyer, I don't even play one on Glenn Beck's program.

00:14:25.760 But what I do know is in order for us to have a central bank digital currency,

00:14:31.720 it needs approval by Congress.

00:14:34.860 So the more things that we have that start to change the definition of what money is

00:14:40.700 and put that on a path to be stuck in the back of some bill

00:14:45.420 and for nobody to know that this has happened is a really scary thing.

00:14:50.720 And while, as I said, I cannot interpret the legal language

00:14:53.540 because I don't have that expertise to say, would that count?

00:14:58.280 It kind of really sounds like that.

00:15:00.260 Yeah.

00:15:01.040 And it's blocking the way for cryptocurrency like Bitcoin.

00:15:06.440 It will not be considered money, only the central bank digital currency.

00:15:12.600 And I don't know if you saw last night's show with Steve Forbes,

00:15:15.460 but he was, I mean, very animated on cryptocurrency from the federal government.

00:15:22.020 He's, he agreed with what you and I talked about yesterday, end of freedom, full stop.

00:15:28.080 And let's also talk about, first of all, love Steve Forbes, long time good friend.

00:15:32.100 He's a really, really smart and good guy.

00:15:34.600 But here's the interesting thing is that a digital currency from the Fed

00:15:38.880 actually isn't a cryptocurrency because a cryptocurrency's key property is decentralization

00:15:45.920 and a digital dollar is full centralization, the full taking of your freedom.

00:15:51.980 So this is exactly what they're doing, Glenn.

00:15:53.700 They're trying to conflate it.

00:15:54.920 They're saying people are really into crypto.

00:15:57.420 They know it's a good thing.

00:15:58.420 They know it's a pushback.

00:15:59.700 Let's just confuse everybody and let them think, oh, this is a crypto.

00:16:04.940 We're just getting into crypto.

00:16:06.400 No, it's not crypto.

00:16:07.560 The whole reason and purpose that people are into crypto is because they do not trust government

00:16:13.180 fiat currency and they want to have that decentralization.

00:16:17.000 The digital dollar is, even though it may live on a blockchain, it may use some of the

00:16:22.080 same technology, it is entirely centralized.

00:16:25.760 And it means the government will have absolute control of everything that you do because they

00:16:30.920 control their money, your money.

00:16:32.160 And if they control your money, they control you.

00:16:35.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:41.560 Would you lose hope if I said, what if Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump can't save us?

00:16:51.040 If you lose hope after hearing those words, your hope is misplaced.

00:16:57.680 What always saves America?

00:16:59.920 What saves America is Americans.

00:17:03.500 We at the last minute when all seems lost, we finally get it and go, oh, and we pull together.

00:17:12.420 Now, they've done everything they can to make sure that we we don't stay together.

00:17:16.780 But I have a sneaking suspicion that coalition that they have built is falling apart.

00:17:24.120 Courage and hope.

00:17:25.640 A letter to mainstream straddler live not by half lies by Margaret Anna Alice.

00:17:32.820 I get it.

00:17:34.120 You don't want to be called a conspiracy theorist.

00:17:36.740 You don't want to be tarred as an anti-vaxxer, a science denier, far right wing extremist.

00:17:42.120 You have your reputation to protect your credibility, your grant funding.

00:17:46.220 So you just water it down.

00:17:48.280 You tiptoe around the truth.

00:17:50.020 You don't go there.

00:17:51.820 And the philanthropists, the tyrants, the big liars, the enablers continue to profit, continue to conspire, continue to torture, continue to slaughter.

00:18:01.460 They'll tell you right to your face what they're doing. 1.00

00:18:06.440 But if you then turn around and quote them, you're the crazy one. 1.00

00:18:10.460 If you ask why a child, a teen, an athlete, other healthy adults suddenly had a heart attack or got turbo cancer or died, you are the truly disgusting one. 0.94

00:18:23.400 If you provide scientific evidence that a warp speed experimental injection being peddled by a trillion dollar industry in collusion with governments, federal agencies, the media and big tech might be dangerous. 0.95

00:18:41.360 You, not the corporations raking in billions, are the grifter.

00:18:46.100 If you ask what's causing the sudden deaths and injuries that began surging in 2021 in hopes of preventing future such tragedies, you're just morally reprehensible.

00:18:57.580 You point out that maybe we should think twice about pushing a product, you know, estimated to have killed 13 million human beings and counting.

00:19:05.460 Well, you're the major killing force globally and guilty of undermining public confidence. 0.81

00:19:10.660 If you call genocide, genocide, you're the enemy, the misinformation spreader, the anti-Semite.

00:19:16.800 If you dare point out never again is already happening, you get inquisitioned, even though the Holocaust survivors and their relatives agree with you. 0.94

00:19:28.820 You know you're living in a world of lies when the mob is more enraged at the whistleblowers revealing the deceptions, corruption and murder than they are at the lying liars, 0.93

00:19:39.000 the corrupt corruptors, the corrupt corruptors, the murdering murderers themselves. 0.92

00:19:44.120 Snowden said, when exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you're being ruled by criminals. 0.95

00:19:50.080 And guess what?

00:19:51.400 Once you start calling, once they start calling you those hideous names, you realize they're nothing more than magicians smoke.

00:20:00.180 You gradually start to give fewer and fewer craps about things.

00:20:04.760 You know you've hit zero when you feel the exhilarating liberation that comes from shouting the unfettered truth.

00:20:13.520 That's the words can never hurt you stage and you become untouchable and you start collecting libels like purple hearts.

00:20:20.700 And the more scars you can count, the more evidence of your efficacy, your threat to the hegemony.

00:20:26.840 That's when you can truly live and by truth, not by lies.

00:20:32.520 If enough of us stand up and do that, we can hold the perpetrators accountable and we can find justice.

00:20:39.100 Once you're living in alignment with your values, you'll feel the deepest joy fathomable.

00:20:43.860 And when COVID criminals have been found guilty, when the spells dissolve, the people will gradually awaken from their coma and recognize you for the hero you are.

00:20:55.300 Or not.

00:20:57.260 Most will be too ashamed to admit that they were conned, to realize they shielded fascist tyrants and attacked those trying to rescue them.

00:21:05.120 Few find that courageous humility within themselves to acknowledge their complicity in totalitarianism.

00:21:12.420 And so they will swathe themselves in soothing denial and lash out to anyone who tries to puncture it.

00:21:18.160 But you will keep trying anyway, because that is what truth-tellers do.

00:21:24.400 Your bravery will outlive you.

00:21:27.080 Your words will remain like candles lighting the path for future truth-droppers.

00:21:32.220 And you will be at peace in life and beyond.

00:21:38.040 I read that a couple of weeks ago, and I said to my staff, I need to talk to this woman.

00:21:43.120 She is amazing.

00:21:45.640 Her name is Margaret Anna Alice, and she's on the program with us now.

00:21:50.720 Hi, Margaret Ann.

00:21:52.860 Hi, Glenn.

00:21:53.880 Thank you so much for that enthusiastic greeting.

00:21:56.820 That was really sweet.

00:21:57.660 You know, I saw a bio of you and who you admire and look up to as heroes, and there are many of the same people that I look up to.

00:22:13.120 And Stolas Nietzsche, and this just screams Stolas Nietzsche to me.

00:22:16.520 Well, that was quite an honor when I heard you say that.

00:22:19.120 So, tell me about your philosophy.

00:22:24.240 You just started a new Substack, right?

00:22:27.260 Well, actually, it's been almost two years since I started it.

00:22:30.920 Oh my gosh, really?

00:22:31.940 Yeah.

00:22:32.640 April 2021 is when I first launched it.

00:22:36.720 And I just, I started it with a piece called A Primer for the Propagandized, Fear is the Mind Killer.

00:22:44.800 And I had, you know, from the beginning of the COVID scandemic or whatever you want to call it,

00:22:52.980 it was quite obvious that the propaganda was being used to psychologically manipulate people,

00:23:00.280 you know, create a state of fear and panic so people would obey and essentially following Biderman's chart of coercion,

00:23:10.540 like a recipe.

00:23:12.560 And so, I was initially attempting to sort of wake people up to this fact by reaching out through,

00:23:20.100 you know, online, local communities, next door, things like that.

00:23:23.980 And I eventually found that the censorship was so extreme, it was basically impossible to share any references.

00:23:33.520 You know, as soon as I'd post a comment, if I had a link in there to substantiating evidence,

00:23:38.120 it would get disappeared within minutes.

00:23:41.080 And so, I had, somebody had posted something at Nextdoor that basically said, you know,

00:23:47.740 these masks are not about health, they're about fear and obedience and obedience training, essentially.

00:23:55.180 And so, I wrote a pretty lengthy comment in response to that.

00:23:59.120 And by the time I was getting ready to post it, that post had been disappeared.

00:24:05.540 And so, I read it to my husband and he said, you know, you should submit that to Off Guardian.

00:24:10.880 And so, I thought, okay, well, I need a place to house it.

00:24:15.760 And I'd been thinking about creating a substack anyway.

00:24:19.000 So, just in an afternoon, just threw together a substack, published that piece,

00:24:25.300 submitted it to Off Guardian, and kind of forgot about it for a couple of weeks.

00:24:29.240 And then Kit Knightley got back to me and said that they would love to publish it.

00:24:33.900 And then that sort of kicked off my publishing career in a way.

00:24:39.940 And then my readership snowballed from there.

00:24:43.220 What is the reaction to you?

00:24:46.700 Because you are so clear.

00:24:49.240 You're obviously extraordinarily bright and well-read.

00:24:53.060 You obviously know philosophy and history really, really well.

00:24:59.880 It'd be hard to argue with you.

00:25:03.480 What is the reaction?

00:25:06.340 Well, from my readership, you know, very enthusiastic, extremely appreciative.

00:25:13.140 One of the things you probably notice that I do a lot is essentially,

00:25:17.860 I provide substantiating evidence for practically every word.

00:25:22.520 Yeah, I know.

00:25:24.120 I have hyperlinks.

00:25:26.460 So, I show my homework.

00:25:28.980 And that way, if anybody questions it or wants to explore more on their own,

00:25:33.980 I've created basically all these rabbit holes that people can go down.

00:25:38.780 And my readers are, you know, they love that.

00:25:42.620 Some people find it irritating, which I understand.

00:25:45.400 You know, I have to tell you, you know, the letter to the mainstream straddler that I just read.

00:25:51.780 It has a lot of things I had to cut out for time.

00:25:54.640 But it has a lot of things like Wampeter that I had never heard before.

00:25:58.020 And I followed the hyperlink.

00:26:00.460 And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

00:26:01.460 And so, I was only annoyed because your one article took up about an hour of my time

00:26:06.820 before I realized, wait a minute, I've got a life.

00:26:11.180 But it is, it's a great, great education.

00:26:15.180 What is your, what's your goal?

00:26:17.080 Well, when I started my sub-stack, my mission I articulated as I want to awaken the sleeping

00:26:26.400 before tyranny, well, actually, I should say unmasked totalitarianism and awaken the sleeping

00:26:31.840 before tyranny triumphs.

00:26:33.080 And that's still, you know, part of my goal, part of my mission.

00:26:38.640 But what I've found is in my many attempts to awaken the sleeping, it is quite an arduous

00:26:49.020 task if they're not willing to wake up.

00:26:52.460 And so, you know, I launched my letter series with a piece called Letter to a Covidian.

00:26:58.480 And, you know, I'm basically trying to confront the people with their hypocrisy, their discrimination,

00:27:06.740 the fact that they allowed themselves to be manipulated into becoming hateful, fearful 0.90

00:27:13.060 people.

00:27:14.620 And, you know, it is difficult when people are sort of in a state of fear, they're panicked,

00:27:22.440 and they're just clinging to these easy solutions and safety.

00:27:26.180 And Laura Dodsworth wrote a great book called A State of Fear that documents the psychological

00:27:32.920 manipulation techniques that were used specifically in the UK.

00:27:37.380 But anyway, so part of my mission has evolved in that I am reaching so many fellow dissidents

00:27:46.380 around the world.

00:27:47.980 And so, really, it's been about nurturing this really rich community of brave, brilliant,

00:27:57.520 funny, intelligent people.

00:28:00.140 And so, it's been very gratifying in that sense as well.

00:28:04.080 May I ask you, because the global reach, when I have spoken to people from different countries,

00:28:11.520 and I look at who's listening to my broadcasts, and I'll find them everywhere that you would

00:28:18.100 just not expect.

00:28:20.020 And it kind of gives me hope, because I believe it's, this is not an American problem.

00:28:26.980 I mean, I think we're a great source of it.

00:28:29.080 But this is not an American problem.

00:28:31.180 This is why there are demonstrations all over the world, because people know it's the elite

00:28:40.600 against the common man.

00:28:43.600 Yes.

00:28:44.420 Yes, absolutely.

00:28:46.720 And I love that you pointed that out earlier.

00:28:50.060 You mentioned if your hope is in Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis, your hope is in the wrong place.

00:28:56.640 Right.

00:28:56.920 And one of my recurring themes is that it is we the people against they. 0.98

00:29:06.220 And so, that's one of the reasons I wrote, I have a Profiles in Courage series, and I did

00:29:12.660 a piece on the Canadian trucker protests, who, of course, they were vilified in the media,

00:29:18.740 big surprise.

00:29:20.360 But I spent, you know, a great deal of time just listening to the stories of the people

00:29:25.940 over there, just kind of playing live streams in the background.

00:29:29.220 And there was just this upflowing of joy and emotional connection with one another.

00:29:36.740 And I called it the winter of love.

00:29:39.280 And you see when ordinary people get together in a spirit of peaceful love and clients, that is where

00:29:47.760 our power lies.

00:29:48.880 I was going to say to you a minute ago, when you were talking about, you know, you're trying

00:29:54.000 to get people out of the darkness and how they just are unwilling to go, fear and hatred

00:30:00.580 are so strong.

00:30:03.100 And they cannot be disabled with more fear or hatred.

00:30:08.260 It has to be love.

00:30:09.520 And that's hard to convince people who keep feeling like a stick in the head or a stick

00:30:16.760 in the eye.

00:30:18.620 And you kind of have some righteous indignation.

00:30:22.220 You're like, I'm not the bad guy here.

00:30:24.640 It's really hard to get them to act in love.

00:30:28.520 Yeah.

00:30:29.100 Yeah.

00:30:30.120 And I will say, in arguing with COVIDians, it has been a test of my patience. 1.00

00:30:35.440 Yeah, I bet it has.

00:30:37.260 Maintain my composure and be compassionate toward them.

00:30:40.820 And I do a rolling interview series called Dissident Dialogues.

00:30:46.500 And I call them rolling because as I work through the questions, I publish them one at a time

00:30:52.680 for my paid subscribers.

00:30:53.940 And then when it's completed, I make it available to the public.

00:30:57.320 But right now, I'm engaged in one with Meredith Miller, who is a holistic coach.

00:31:02.860 And I have found her insights into the psyche of what is occurring absolutely fascinating.

00:31:10.440 And I've been studying this, been writing about it for three years.

00:31:13.960 And of course, I've been studying these topics for many more years before this.

00:31:18.300 But she articulates it in such a way that really helped me understand it from the perspective

00:31:23.560 of these victims of this psychological manipulation.

00:31:27.220 So, for example, you know, she sees them as victims of narcissistic, emotional, psychological

00:31:35.860 abuse.

00:31:36.860 And she calls it a psycho-neuro-spiritual state of captivity.

00:31:42.540 And so, if you think of them as being like abused partners in a, you know, an unhealthy

00:31:49.360 relationship, and they have Stockholm Syndrome, they are defending their captors.

00:31:55.260 And so, anyone who tries to get them rescued from that situation before they are ready, they're

00:32:03.040 going to resist.

00:32:04.640 And so, Meredith basically said they have to be the ones who make, they have to have this

00:32:11.140 moment, this epiphany, this moment of disruptive truth that helps them break through and recognize

00:32:19.340 that they're being abused, and that those of us who are outside trying to wrest them from that abuse.

00:32:26.120 Once they wake up, and, you know, she said, my sub stack is extremely valuable for people when they are

00:32:33.480 awakening, because they're thirsty for that truth and that evidence to support their newfound

00:32:39.420 realizations.

00:32:40.760 Margaret, I would love to continue our conversation.

00:32:43.400 I'm going to become a paid subscriber of your sub stack.

00:32:47.160 I think you're amazing, and I hope you don't mind.

00:32:50.700 I would love to share some of your ideas.

00:32:54.320 Oh, please do.

00:32:55.180 Because you're a remarkable writer.

00:32:57.820 Thank you so much.

00:32:59.580 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:33:03.760 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:33:05.460 So, I was writing a story today about Duck Dynasty star Missy Robertson, and she was out with Kirk Cameron.

00:33:16.420 They were doing a book event at a library in Tennessee, Hendersonville, which doesn't sound like a huge

00:33:24.120 metropolis, but they were doing it at the public library, and they had real problems.

00:33:31.020 I mean, the thing almost didn't happen, and as I'm reading this story, I thought, I got to call Missy and just ask her

00:33:38.320 about it.

00:33:39.040 Missy Robertson is here with us.

00:33:41.440 Missy is the author of several books.

00:33:45.300 The latest is Because You're My Family, and she was out with Kirk Cameron.

00:33:49.800 His book is As You Grow.

00:33:52.200 Hi, Missy.

00:33:52.660 How are you?

00:33:53.860 Hi.

00:33:54.400 Hi, Glenn.

00:33:54.900 Thank you for having me.

00:33:55.680 We're great.

00:33:56.200 Yeah, so good to talk to you.

00:33:58.280 Yes, good to talk to you.

00:33:59.300 So, you know, if you're watching your podcast or your show on Blaze TV or on YouTube, you

00:34:08.800 bring this up and talk about it.

00:34:11.820 Can you retell the story?

00:34:15.300 Yes.

00:34:15.680 Actually, when I came home from that trip, I told my husband, Jace, who's one of the talent

00:34:22.560 on Unashamed, with Phil and Jace Robertson on Blaze TV, I said, can I be on your podcast

00:34:27.540 tomorrow?

00:34:27.900 And I never asked for that.

00:34:30.240 They want me to be on there, and I'm either too busy or uninterested to be on there with

00:34:35.160 my family, just being totally transparent.

00:34:38.520 But so when I said, I need to talk about something on the podcast, it kind of shocked him, and

00:34:43.060 he just said yes immediately, which was really funny.

00:34:45.540 I said, you don't even know what I want to talk about.

00:34:47.000 But what had happened was literally the day before, and I was in Tennessee with my children.

00:34:53.340 Most of my children and both of my grandbabies live in the Nashville area, and I was spending

00:34:58.200 some time with them.

00:35:00.220 And Brave Books reached out to me and said, hey, you know, Kirk's going to be on his library

00:35:06.340 tour in Hendersonville, which is not too far from where my children are.

00:35:09.800 Would you like to join him and read your book?

00:35:12.320 Absolutely.

00:35:13.420 What a wonderful idea.

00:35:15.740 Kind of wish I thought of that, to do a library tour.

00:35:18.520 And sure, what a great place to do it as well.

00:35:22.940 So that morning, I was not privy to a lot of the pushback that had been going on.

00:35:30.200 So I kind of walked in a little deer in the headlights, I think, to use a southern term.

00:35:36.640 But that morning was actually really cold, and it had been warm and beautiful all week.

00:35:44.080 That morning was like 41 degrees, raining and freezing.

00:35:49.060 And when I got there almost two hours before it opened, there was already a line formed

00:35:54.940 with children, umbrellas, babies.

00:35:57.160 So I thought, okay, I can't really believe that they're coming out for this little library

00:36:02.800 reading.

00:36:03.260 But, you know, kudos to them.

00:36:05.960 Even my children backed out at the last minute because our babies are little.

00:36:10.600 And like, Mom, we're not going to come.

00:36:12.880 I'm like, it's totally fine.

00:36:14.120 I totally understand.

00:36:16.100 So as the morning went on, the lines got longer, and Braves wanted to do some little promos

00:36:22.980 about our books inside this beautiful, I'm going to state this, this beautiful, multi-level,

00:36:29.620 beautiful, gorgeous library with tons of windows inside was like, just really massive for a

00:36:35.460 small little town.

00:36:36.220 I was not expecting that.

00:36:37.640 Right.

00:36:38.260 And so the depth of the library behind us was just such a great, beautiful place to do some

00:36:43.820 promos.

00:36:44.240 And was just kind of snuck up on when I realized that people started making noise in the closed

00:36:53.120 library.

00:36:54.100 People were outside.

00:36:55.540 And where's this noise coming from?

00:36:57.580 And I realized over the next few minutes that it was being done on purpose to distract from

00:37:06.460 what we were trying to do is make these videos, just promoting, just promoting these books.

00:37:10.480 And these books, what's so silly is these books are about unconditional love of family,

00:37:16.720 forgiveness, the fruits of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, 0.52

00:37:22.720 self-control.

00:37:25.140 These are kind of ironic when you think about some of the things that we're trying to push.

00:37:30.880 They said that we're trying to push on children and their families.

00:37:34.460 So wait a minute.

00:37:34.940 So let me ask you, why didn't you just ask the librarian to do what all librarians do and

00:37:40.100 say, shh, who were these people that were?

00:37:44.020 They were the library staff.

00:37:45.780 But again, like I said before, I wasn't really sure what was going on.

00:37:51.040 And I, you know, being in reality TV, we're not on sets anywhere.

00:37:57.160 We're in real everyday circumstances.

00:37:59.140 And so I thought, you know, maybe people, we're in their environment.

00:38:03.900 They forgot to lower their voices.

00:38:06.100 We're trying to do something, you know, so can we ask them nicely to, you know, be quiet?

00:38:10.020 Well, that happened like three times.

00:38:11.300 We even kind of laughed about it.

00:38:12.300 Like, shh, I think Kirk said, it's a library, shh, you know, like, ha ha.

00:38:15.820 And it just wasn't happening.

00:38:19.900 And we realized there was a moment where I thought something is wrong when one of the

00:38:27.440 brave team asked the director who was coming kind of out into the open.

00:38:31.960 And he said, hey, can you ask your staff to hold it down?

00:38:35.280 And he fired back.

00:38:36.840 You're not even supposed to be here.

00:38:38.560 And Kirk shot back.

00:38:40.720 Yes, we are supposed to be here.

00:38:42.520 And these were very loud voices.

00:38:44.140 And it kind of took me off guard.

00:38:46.420 Like something.

00:38:47.880 Are we not supposed to be in the library?

00:38:49.260 Like, I start thinking about, are we doing something we're not supposed to do?

00:38:53.380 I'm such a rule follower.

00:38:54.700 And I don't want to upset anyone, you know.

00:38:56.680 So, and brave, just look, the brave team just looked at me and was like, we're fine.

00:39:00.500 And yes, we're supposed to be here.

00:39:01.600 So, did they, the lady behind the, this is what you said on Unashamed, the lady at the 0.88

00:39:07.760 front desk of the library said, we're just trying to look for things to deal with our

00:39:11.820 stress.

00:39:13.140 Yes, that's, that was, I think, the actual moment where it confirmed in my mind.

00:39:20.160 And really, look, I'm like, am I, I'm just sitting there thinking that everyone, we're

00:39:25.740 welcome.

00:39:26.420 There's hundreds of people outside.

00:39:28.380 So, this was really hard for me to wrap my brain around, that someone was trying to thwart

00:39:34.140 this process.

00:39:35.240 And so, when she said that, after Riley, you know, Riley Gaines was also there reading for

00:39:40.840 Bethany Hamilton's book.

00:39:42.800 Bethany was in Hawaii and couldn't come.

00:39:45.620 So, Riley grew up in that area.

00:39:47.820 She said, I grew up five minutes from this library.

00:39:50.420 So, this was her hometown.

00:39:51.980 So, I started to think about what would happen if, you know, our little West Monroe Library,

00:39:56.780 West Monroe, Louisiana Library, if some of the people were acting like that against someone

00:40:03.000 that I had invited, or was invited to my hometown library, I would be embarrassed.

00:40:09.220 And I think, you know, she took it upon herself to kind of march over there and say, look, we're

00:40:13.980 asking for 60 seconds of quiet.

00:40:16.880 Can you not turn off the music that you're blaring?

00:40:20.860 There's no one in here but us.

00:40:22.420 And we're asking for 60 seconds.

00:40:24.740 And she said that she didn't think she had the authority to make that decision to turn

00:40:29.040 off the radio.

00:40:30.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:40:32.200 So, I mean, nothing is probably going to happen to these people.

00:40:36.940 I don't know if you fired a, you know, or filed a complaint.

00:40:40.080 But this actually started with the brave book people because they wanted to turn Kirk down.

00:40:53.440 Right?

00:40:54.440 So, I don't know all of the facts about that.

00:40:58.940 But I was learning as I was standing there.

00:41:01.260 We had a job to do.

00:41:02.660 We had hundreds of people waiting for us.

00:41:05.100 And we were really excited about it.

00:41:06.560 These books are really good.

00:41:07.920 They are so sweet, the ones that we were reading, especially that day, to all of these

00:41:13.460 children and families.

00:41:15.200 And I'm so proud of this book and for Kirk's book because they're biblical values without, 0.99

00:41:22.180 you know, basically shoving verses down children's throats is what I think some of the quotes

00:41:27.880 have been said about us.

00:41:29.000 But they're not that way at all.

00:41:30.560 They're beautifully written and illustrated.

00:41:33.100 And it's a partnership that the authors have with brave books.

00:41:36.840 And so, and like my book is about unconditional love and forgiveness of family.

00:41:42.620 And I loved when I talk about it to speak about how the Father in heaven and Jesus who created

00:41:48.460 us love us unconditionally.

00:41:50.360 That there is nothing in the world that we will ever do to make him stop loving us.

00:41:56.200 We will disappoint him.

00:41:57.260 We have things that we have to make up for.

00:42:00.860 There are consequences to our behavior, but he will never stop loving us.

00:42:05.280 And it mirrors with our own children and parenting.

00:42:09.100 It's beautiful.

00:42:09.840 Isn't it amazing, Missy, how the world is so upside down that that is considered evil indoctrination?

00:42:20.100 Yes, it's really sad.

00:42:24.200 And I don't get angry a lot because I feel like the older I get and the more my relationship

00:42:30.580 with my creator grows, the more I love him and appreciate his sacrifice for me.

00:42:36.620 And the more I understand why he loves me so much, especially now that I have grandbabies.

00:42:42.060 I have two generations of children behind me that I love unconditionally and would do anything

00:42:46.600 for.

00:42:46.980 And I want everyone to experience that relationship like I have with him.

00:42:54.080 And so now, you know, there have been consequences to that library and to their staff's behavior.

00:43:01.760 I got a text from Kirk last night, actually, telling me that the library director was fired.

00:43:09.140 Wow.

00:43:09.820 And so I don't have a lot of confirmation of that.

00:43:13.320 But my initial response was, whoa.

00:43:17.660 Yeah, that I would not expect that.

00:43:20.420 It's good or sweet.

00:43:21.080 I told Jace, my husband last night, I said, when I told him, he said, good.

00:43:26.020 And I thought, I mean, it is good, but we don't wish ill on anyone.

00:43:31.180 I know.

00:43:31.720 I know.

00:43:32.140 I feel like they do on us, but we really don't wish ill on anyone.

00:43:35.920 But we have to stand up for what they are trying to do with our children and our grandchildren.

00:43:44.420 And now I've got two brand new grandbabies that my children are having to make decisions 1.00

00:43:50.140 on where to put them in school, if they're even going to go to a school.

00:43:55.820 It's a very difficult situation for them, and I do not envy them.

00:44:00.720 We're going to support them 100% in whatever decision they make, but they're really taking

00:44:06.440 it seriously.

00:44:07.520 And I'm afraid that if we don't, we're going to lose a lot of our children.

00:44:11.880 Oh, we already have, unfortunately, because we didn't speak up.

00:44:16.220 And, you know, you said, you know, the stronger I am with the Lord, you've just experienced

00:44:23.460 his love.

00:44:24.560 And I'll tell you, the stronger I become in the Lord, I find myself in those situations

00:44:29.860 with greater compassion for the person.

00:44:33.260 It's really weird.

00:44:34.500 It's, you don't get angry.

00:44:36.440 You just, you're like, what kind of suffering did you go through or are you going through?

00:44:42.400 What are you carrying around?

00:44:44.160 Yeah, it's so sad.

00:44:46.920 I mean, well, I'll be honest, I was angry.

00:44:49.840 Oh, no, yeah, I know.

00:44:51.100 I was angry at first.

00:44:52.440 You know, that's what led me to want to talk about this.

00:44:56.900 You know, I got home that day.

00:44:58.960 We have a place there close to my kids, and my son Cole was there, and he's my peacemaking,

00:45:06.180 laid-back child.

00:45:07.620 Let's don't ruffle any feathers.

00:45:09.280 And he was like, Mom, you need to talk about this.

00:45:12.520 Yeah, there's a, you know, people think that if you're loving and you're following in the

00:45:16.300 footsteps of Christ that you're just never going to, you know, say anything.

00:45:19.980 That's not fighting.

00:45:20.980 No, no, no.

00:45:21.800 No.

00:45:22.400 It's standing firm in the truth with compassion to other people, but that doesn't mean you

00:45:27.660 don't say anything.

00:45:29.040 You cannot live your life quiet, especially in this world.

00:45:32.820 If you are not an enemy of evil, then you're really nothing.

00:45:38.740 You're, you know, you're nothing.

00:45:40.660 You know, and Riley, Riley was amazing what she did. 0.72

00:45:44.320 And I was taken so off guard for a second.

00:45:47.320 She was like, this is not happening, and walked over there and was not unkind at all, but very

00:45:52.140 direct.

00:45:52.880 And we have all of that on video.

00:45:55.120 You know, Brave was steadily rolling.

00:45:56.740 I started videoing with my own phone, because I thought, is this really, this is happening.

00:46:01.720 This is what I've been seeing on the news happening from coast to coast, but not here in the middle,

00:46:08.200 the flyover state.

00:46:09.260 This is not happening in our little hometowns, but it is.

00:46:11.940 Yeah, people don't have any idea.

00:46:14.860 It is in all of our communities.

00:46:17.420 Missy, thank you so much.

00:46:18.940 And say hi to everybody for me.

00:46:20.740 And we, we so appreciate Unashamed, uh, and, and all of your work.

00:46:25.760 So thank you.

00:46:26.740 Thank you.

00:46:27.380 Thank you so much.

00:46:28.460 Bye-bye.

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