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00:00:00.000 today's podcast took a surprising turn um we were not expecting roe versus wade to be overturned

00:00:08.640 today we're expecting it last week in the middle of a an interview um things went wildly wrong

00:00:17.260 with the interview and uh wildly right with the supreme court we had a decision come up uh it was

00:00:26.320 uh it got a little ugly uh for a few minutes because the person felt we were colluding i guess

00:00:33.440 with the supreme court to try to make him look bad um but it is a great day of hope all of your

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00:01:51.740 i don't know a single american personally i don't know a single american that actually is not involved

00:02:01.020 deeply in washington dc that doesn't want free and fair elections that doesn't want every ballot to

00:02:07.160 be counted um and wants to make sure uh that there is no monkey business going on um and that we can

00:02:14.500 count on our elections every american i don't care who you voted for i think wants that uh but i don't

00:02:22.520 think anybody in washington really wants that um especially the democrats they are already setting up

00:02:29.460 that uh the election is going to be stolen you can't trust it and now the problems with the

00:02:33.580 voting machines they're doing the same thing they always do but they're doing something else remember

00:02:38.440 the key to understanding this administration is the administration he is a administrator that's it

00:02:46.920 all of the agencies are being pushed to the limit to take away as many as many rights from you as

00:02:56.420 possible and make the system work in a completely different way than constitutionally molly hemingway

00:03:04.120 has written a great uh article uh it came out yesterday biden is hiding his plan to rig the 2022

00:03:10.480 midterm elections molly is joining us now hello molly hello it's great to be here with you

00:03:17.260 yeah it's great to have you on so um this is they're doing this in every agency and this one

00:03:25.640 you've tried to look into and they're hiding everything that they're doing can you take us

00:03:32.760 from the beginning and then show us what they're doing sure so in march of 2021 just a few weeks after

00:03:39.740 president biden took office he issued an executive order saying that all 600 federal agencies had to

00:03:46.600 come up with a plan to expand voting now people were immediately alarmed because the constitution does not

00:03:53.440 give the executive branch authority over our election system that's reserved for the states

00:03:59.180 there's a very tiny role for congress and so the executive branch has not been given that authority

00:04:04.800 and then people are also worried because expanding voting is an inherently political act you know it's um

00:04:11.740 mobilizing voters is a political act and so the bureaucracy should not be involved with it so people

00:04:18.160 wanted to know well what are these plans going to be everyone had 200 days to turn in a plan to

00:04:24.000 susan rice by the way you know one of the most political people out there for approval and people 1.00

00:04:30.160 started asking what the plans were and they have been steadfastly refusing to return those plans ever since then

00:04:37.900 okay so i want to make sure people understand that is 600 federal federal agencies 600 had 200 days

00:04:47.660 to show how they were going to expand citizens opportunities to register to vote and obtain

00:04:54.840 information about participate in the electoral process they had until march 7th 2021 you can't find

00:05:03.340 anything about what anyone of those 600 agencies turned in and congressmen have been asking for it

00:05:11.780 you've had the ranking member of every committee in the house asking for the information you've had them

00:05:17.140 expressing their concerns congressional committees good government groups outside citizens are doing

00:05:23.020 FOIA requests and they just can't get anything and it seems to be that what they're doing is trying to

00:05:29.140 slow walk it until well after the election in one case they said they would respond to the FOIA by may

00:05:35.340 of 2024 and so it is really difficult to get information which makes it difficult to even know what's going

00:05:42.360 on and i just want to be clear these are inherently political acts like choosing who you reach out to

00:05:47.660 um and to mobilize get out the vote operations that's what political parties do and it's particularly

00:05:54.960 dangerous because we're talking about federal agencies that hand out benefits and so if people

00:06:00.940 are told hey we could really use you voting mr person who's getting this federal benefit you can see

00:06:07.680 why that would be viewed as improper and unethical compulsion um regarding voting which is something

00:06:13.580 that is very dangerous and which we have previously had strict laws against so tell me what's happening

00:06:20.340 with the centers for medicare medicaid um uh with their voter turnout um the department of labor what

00:06:28.700 are they doing department of education right so each of them are choosing to respond to this executive

00:06:36.180 order in different ways and we are getting these indications that they're complying with this

00:06:41.520 executive order even if they're refusing to say what exactly they're doing but you're seeing these

00:06:46.780 public facing things where they'll say that they're turning their their health centers into vote

00:06:53.000 vote places you know where they're focusing their efforts that should be focused on job training

00:06:59.680 you know during a labor crisis on get out the vote operations at department of education centers

00:07:05.920 or the federal work study program which is part of the department of education had previously said of

00:07:11.940 course you can't use federal work study um monies to engage in electioneering or election activity

00:07:18.160 and now they're saying you can use these monies to help run get out the vote operations and i just

00:07:25.800 think it's important to remember the context here too is that we just had this election in 2020

00:07:30.360 where we had mark zuckerberg finance the widespread takeover of government election offices with partisan

00:07:39.680 you know left-leaning activists and they ran get out the vote operations in the blue areas of swing states

00:07:48.180 so the context here is really troubling too because we just saw in 2020 how this type of operation can have

00:07:54.960 severely partisan um repercussions and why people should be on guard if they want to trust their

00:08:02.420 elections and if they want to have confidence in their elections molly what do we do

00:08:09.400 we have no press that will do it the congressman not getting responded to the justice department is

00:08:16.620 absolutely corrupt what do we do so i do think that raising an outcry over the refusal to find out

00:08:26.100 information is key and there are lawsuits that are ongoing two groups have sued to get the information

00:08:32.100 these agencies are clearly in violation of federal law and so hopefully we would have enough pressure

00:08:38.120 that those lawsuits can be responded to as soon as possible so that the public can know what's going

00:08:42.700 on and people should not despair i mean fighting over election administration is something that has

00:08:48.060 been going on in this country for centuries and despair is not an appropriate response because you know

00:08:54.500 you had even a few decades ago the democrat party had disenfranchised like an entire race of people in the

00:09:01.700 south and people didn't despair they just fought to make sure that the voting system was fair

00:09:07.220 and so i think the most important thing people can do is get involved at the local level find out

00:09:12.680 what's going on in how elections are administered in your state and make sure that they're being done

00:09:17.620 properly and that there are no shenanigans going on and you're not going to be able to know that unless

00:09:21.940 you're deeply involved in the process so start now we have widespread mail-in balloting and you know an

00:09:28.960 election season so that it's not just election day which is frankly when republicans go vote it's those two

00:09:34.880 months prior or even many you know years prior where they're setting up the system by which everyone else is

00:09:40.620 voting or by which the system is so insecure that it can be exploited and you really have to just find out what

00:09:49.380 the rules are in your area find out what's going on and get involved do election observation research and

00:09:55.360 everybody should do that if they care about the republic because if we don't have elections we can trust you know you

00:10:00.580 don't really have a country but don't you know it's not the end of the world it just requires people to

00:10:05.800 get involved and pay attention so um molly it's it's really interesting to me because i look at the

00:10:11.740 things that they do and i'm like who has time for this but you have time if you think that you should

00:10:18.660 be in charge of everything and everybody um that is their full-time job to uh figure out ways to control

00:10:26.140 everything the conservatives we have just been you know asleep at the switch we're like no everybody

00:10:32.080 thinks like this no they don't no they don't there's there's uh probably 15 percent of very very active

00:10:38.420 americans that are intent on taking the republic and destroying it um we just have to we just have to 0.90

00:10:46.560 wake up and start realizing it's really our fault that this is is happening because we've just been

00:10:53.260 expecting somebody else to take care of it for us so i wrote a book on the 2020 election called rigged

00:11:00.320 how the media big tech and democrats seized our election and i go through all sorts of things

00:11:06.400 including this mark zuckerberg operation that was a 450 million dollar operation it was more than anyone

00:11:13.300 had ever conceived of spending on something to take over the the government administration of elections

00:11:18.900 but that is what i worry about the federal government you know they spend 450 million dollars

00:11:23.420 in a in a blink of an eye they have so much money to throw at this that it is really worrisome

00:11:29.520 you know and the constitution does not authorize it congress has not authorized it and yet they're still

00:11:34.340 doing it but you're absolutely right that uh a lot of people have just been asleep and not thinking

00:11:39.800 about election integrity for decades but in my book i actually tell the story about how

00:11:44.800 there was this court order that kept republicans from doing any election day oversight for nearly

00:11:51.700 40 years i couldn't believe it when i first learned about it but in the early 70s a judge in new jersey

00:11:58.080 put them under a consent decree where they couldn't get involved in any litigation election day litigation

00:12:03.420 and for nearly 40 years they were kept under this it took the judge dying and being replaced by an

00:12:10.100 obama appointed judge who said this is ridiculous like let the republicans out wow and it was

00:12:14.640 so sensitive that uh during the 2020 or 2016 election sean spicer was on the wrong floor of

00:12:21.760 trump tower and they almost kept them under the consent decree for another few years like because

00:12:26.980 he was you know he was he's supposed to be on floor four instead of floor five and that's how

00:12:31.100 sensitive it was and it kept republicans from really focusing on this for a very long time but

00:12:36.500 they're kind of liberated now and so they are doing much more to do election day oversight and there

00:12:41.980 there are many more resources in play now real quick any thoughts on the supreme court and what's

00:12:47.980 coming here again tomorrow today in just a few minutes well i think everyone's but there are so

00:12:54.100 many important decisions and yesterday's decision was a huge victory for the constitution and it really

00:12:59.480 does speak to the importance of having solid originalist judges or justices on the court everyone's of

00:13:06.860 course anxious for the dobbs decision the abortion related decision and a lot of people thought it

00:13:11.680 should have been out earlier because of these death threats that the justices are facing so hopefully

00:13:16.340 it will uh you know it'll come out this week or next week but it's been i think an overall pretty

00:13:21.600 good term for people who care about the constitution yeah i think it's been very good uh molly great to

00:13:27.200 have you on thank you so much thank you take care this is the best of the glenn beck program and we

00:13:35.580 really want to thank you for listening what has happened with the dobbs case uh we have roe versus wade

00:13:50.740 overruled uh as well as casey oh my gosh i don't think i ever thought i would see this day to be

00:13:58.060 honest with you um but it's a it's a good day we have talked about this we have been together for

00:14:04.720 uh 25 years and we both said never in our lifetime would this happen nope i didn't oh my gosh

00:14:13.760 i it's uh it's uh it's being white lord please hear the voice of your people we are trying to

00:14:26.020 mend our ways we are uh we are sorry it has taken us this long but please hear your people please

00:14:37.560 forgive us forgive us for what we have done my my gosh

00:14:43.980 is the ruling does it look to be the same as the original alito ruling i'm just going through it now

00:14:56.240 it does seem to be a 6-3 decision um uh which is you know there was a question of whether roberts would

00:15:05.100 uh would would come on board for this um looks like he has so does seem to be a 6-3 decision

00:15:14.460 just let that sink in america

00:15:32.140 what ruth bader ginsburg said ruth bader ginsburg said that this is um

00:15:45.180 this was um unjustly and uh decided roe versus wade she thought it was flawed

00:15:57.600 and it was the idea that uh abortion is covered in the constitution is not true it is just it is it is

00:16:12.700 not true and everything that is not in the constitution doesn't make it unconstitutional

00:16:21.160 it just means it goes to the states to decide that is the law of the land and has been forever

00:16:30.160 even justice ginsburg said that

00:16:35.300 um the uh relevant portion here at the end of the opinion we end this opinion where we began

00:16:44.980 abortion presents a profound moral question the constitution does not prohibit the citizens

00:16:49.200 of each state from regulating or prohibiting abortion roe and casey arrogated that authority

00:16:54.300 we now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected

00:16:59.080 representatives the judgment of the fifth circuit is reversed and the case is remanded for further

00:17:04.220 proceedings consistent with this opinion it is so ordered

00:17:07.420 okay um we please our producers need to be watching the uh white house uh and all others who are going to

00:17:22.380 come out in a statement this means uh jane's revenge uh is going to be at least what they say

00:17:34.140 is they are going to be lighting cities on fire tonight um i'm i'm prayerful that that doesn't happen

00:17:42.620 but i wouldn't doubt it the media is going to stir things up like there is no tomorrow but we can

00:17:53.820 we can uh beg the lord for peace and protection on all sides you know i think it's um

00:18:06.700 i think it is so important to know that we have to be on god's side because he's not picking

00:18:17.020 uh sides uh sides he doesn't he loves all of his children equally and uh we just try to do what he wants

00:18:29.660 us to do so pray for all of those who are terrified about what this means all those who are um i think misguided

00:18:42.300 uh and pray for peace uh to wash over us i doubt well i'm not gonna i have no idea what the lord

00:18:52.860 wants whatever the lord wants we'll uh we'll we'll deal with it um all right would you make sure that we

00:19:00.300 have talked to uh levitt's office and if if we can we'll do it on the bottom of the hour um my apologies

00:19:07.020 to him i don't mean to be rude but sorry i really i hope i hope we can prioritize his local race over

00:19:14.220 over the dobs decision glenn i don't understand why you didn't do that that's really rude of you

00:19:18.620 well to cut him off in the middle of that i mean what what could you possibly be talking about

00:19:22.780 only uh you know hundreds you know tens of millions of children uh potentially are on the road to living

00:19:28.620 instead of not being alive and but i i want to make sure he gets his words in here because i know that

00:19:33.420 that was a high priority to him so we'll get back to him as soon as possible i'm glad he prioritized

00:19:37.660 that it's a really important moment for him to make that personal argument and i'm glad he made it

00:19:44.140 i don't care um can we get um wait let me uh i'm sorry but we don't have another

00:19:52.860 we don't have a break uh long enough do we can we get analysis on uh bottom of this hour because if we

00:19:59.100 get analysis on this hour if they have time to read it get analysis on and then move david to the

00:20:04.620 next hour if we can't get analysis because they haven't had time to read it yet then uh let's uh

00:20:10.940 i'm sorry i'm just shocked that this came out we were just having this conversation before we went

00:20:16.060 on the air and uh stew said what are you going to do if the dobs case comes out and i said it's not

00:20:21.580 going to come out and he said but if it comes out and i said it's not going to come out but if it does

00:20:25.980 we have to take that um and uh so i'm just shocked because i did not expect that to happen yeah uh

00:20:33.340 glenn all right one one excerpt here um from the ruling we do not pretend to know how our political

00:20:38.700 system or society will respond to today's decision overruling roe and casey and even if we could foresee

00:20:45.340 what will happen we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision gosh if that is

00:20:51.100 not the central problem with the supreme court so often so glad they pointed that out we can only

00:20:56.540 do our job which is to interpret the law apply long-standing principles of stare decisis and decide

00:21:02.220 this case accordingly we therefore hold that the constitution does not confer a right to abortion period

00:21:10.540 roe and casey must be overruled and the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the

00:21:14.940 people and their elected representatives it is the best of times it is the worst of times um

00:21:24.940 we're gonna see miracles in our lifetime and i think we just saw one the court writes the precedents

00:21:31.260 should be respected but sometimes the court errs and occasionally the court issues an important

00:21:36.220 decision that is egregiously wrong when that happens stare decisis is not a straight jacket this is

00:21:42.860 something of course we've been arguing for decades and seemingly as obvious as you point out i mean

00:21:48.620 even ruth bader ginsburg supported this at one point in her career many liberal uh you know court 0.80

00:21:55.340 watchers feel the same way this is not a this is not a conservative there's there's a lot of passion for

00:22:01.260 conservatives on the pro-life side of this and there's very little uh appetite for that on the left

00:22:07.100 however there is appetite for this being terrible law and an egregiously made egregiously poor decision

00:22:14.300 made when roe versus wade was initially uh you know decided and so the left has been on in on this on

00:22:21.900 board with this not to say we shouldn't have abortion which again this is not what this does and

00:22:26.620 it's important to remember that overturning roe versus wade does very little to stop abortion in

00:22:33.420 this country it's it's a very important first step it won't but it will anyone who wants to get an

00:22:38.860 abortion in this country will still be able to get them you there's this is why the work that you know

00:22:43.980 we've talked about some of these organizations we've worked with so important it's about still

00:22:47.900 changing hearts and minds this will not do it on its own but it is an important step

00:22:53.260 so do you remember when i was at fox and i was talking about why it was so important

00:23:00.060 um to be good be steady uh don't fight back the way they want you to fight back because

00:23:09.820 martin luther king was right when you put good versus evil side by side the american people will

00:23:17.100 know it and they will recognize it and they will see it um a lot of americans have been uh duped and a

00:23:24.620 a lot of americans you know it's very very difficult you learn this from the history of

00:23:30.700 germany and other places once you decide and you've gone so far mentally down the road it takes a huge

00:23:38.860 amount of courage to say holy cow i i was wrong about this and switch sides but um i think you're going to

00:23:48.460 see states california new york they are going to become abortion mills they are going to do abortion

00:23:56.060 vacations they are going to push the limits as far as they're going to say if it's up to the state you

00:24:03.900 will see you will see laws in some states that say after a baby is born you can kill it they've done it

00:24:13.260 already in chicago they've done it illegally in chicago they they talked about it in virginia

00:24:19.580 they're going to do it in new york they're going to do it in california believe me and this will be

00:24:25.980 the place where i think a lot of americans will have to decide can i live in a state like that

00:24:32.940 can i can i be part of that this is so far this will become so far over the edge um that most americans

00:24:45.340 will be appalled by what is happening even those who believe that the you know they they want to have

00:24:52.780 reasonable uh limits to abortion uh they will not find it reasonable what these death states will do

00:25:02.940 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program

00:25:07.100 josh hammer uh he is the opinion editor of newsweek he is the host of the josh hammer show

00:25:24.340 uh he is really quite brilliant uh one of the leading minds in the conservative movement i think

00:25:32.120 josh hammer joins us now to uh tell us what did you what did you find in this decision

00:25:39.500 glenn great to be back with you on such a momentous and really it's emotionally powerful day honestly

00:25:47.640 um so you know look as you said this dropped recently funny enough i was in the middle of

00:25:54.220 giving a guest lecture for for an organization i'm on the advisory board of when it drops so i i barely

00:25:59.820 had any time to kind of skim through here let alone get to the concurring and dissenting opinions but it

00:26:04.680 looks like this looks very similar to the draft opinion that was leaked by the politico story a

00:26:11.980 month and a half ago in early may and i think those of us who were praying that the five justices from

00:26:18.140 this leaked draft majority opinion would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this

00:26:24.160 unprecedented assault now know that our prayers were answered glenn that's really my takeaway right

00:26:29.460 now this looks a lot like the leaked opinion justice thomas and justice kavanaugh have have

00:26:34.480 some brief concurring opinions but um unbelievable and and really just holding aside the constitutional

00:26:41.100 law stuff for a second here just speaking as pro-lifers on a day like today i think we really just

00:26:47.420 need to pause and i tweeted this out earlier we need to just be grateful for the our half century

00:26:53.220 of pro-life activist forebears who you know this glenn this issue could have gone away after after 1973

00:26:59.300 that was a long time ago 1973 i mean this issue could have just gone away we owe a tremendous debt

00:27:06.880 of gratitude to the pro-life moral activists political activists and of course yes the legal activists

00:27:12.380 who fought day in and day out to make sure that this grave injustice stayed front and center of

00:27:18.700 our national political conscience and in many days today is the culmination of a half century of

00:27:24.900 fighting for truth and justice but in many ways it's also a new beginning for the pro-life side as well

00:27:30.580 interestingly how do you mean a new beginning for the fight i think it's going to turn i think we're

00:27:38.080 going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that um allow it is that is that what you're

00:27:46.180 meaning by this well look for i mean for a half century now roe versus wade and its progeny

00:27:54.360 specifically the planned parenthood versus casey case in 1992 they took away from the states obviously

00:28:01.140 the arrogated authority away from the states the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view

00:28:07.780 of the morality of abortion it happened it happened to be a profoundly immoral view so these the fight

00:28:14.260 now shifts to the states and the pro-life activists in all the 50 states especially obviously in red states

00:28:21.620 purple states i mean admittedly some blue states like new york and california probably won't be able

00:28:25.600 to touch them there but we we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state capitals

00:28:31.960 for every red purplish and probably even light blue state to make sure that we fight for successful

00:28:38.900 cogent and morally consistent pro-life legislation the the state of oklahoma actually just north of

00:28:46.920 texas where i know you are glenn they they've been leading on this actually governor kevin stitt

00:28:51.600 signed into law a fantastic pro-life bill there in oklahoma a few weeks ago maybe a month ago or so at

00:28:57.000 this point that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception and there are

00:29:01.900 some you know obviously life of the mother exceptions and so forth but we really need to

00:29:06.400 start thinking about trying to craft legislation now at the state level but to your point yes i do

00:29:12.100 fear of course that blue states will only double down in their radicalism and unfortunately that's

00:29:17.380 probably only going to lead to an ever greater divide in our country than we currently have today but

00:29:22.460 obviously we're going to save the end of the day here we're going to save millions and millions of

00:29:26.720 unborn children we we are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer who can win

00:29:32.680 nobel prizes i mean this this is a just a tremendous win for the human species i don't really know how

00:29:38.360 to say it than that i tell you i i saw the stat that um i think it was last year the year before

00:29:45.380 20 of all pregnancies ended in abortion 20 that is uh that's a shocking number um and um and we do have

00:29:58.300 our our work cut out for us um because i i think that these states are going to double down but i i think

00:30:05.660 you know god doesn't waste anything you know there is no waste with god um even the even the

00:30:15.360 the the worst things that could possibly happen turn out to be uh something good you know i mean

00:30:22.620 you're like holy cow how did that just happen um and and i think that um evil is going to fully come

00:30:31.160 unmasked i mean i'm i'm telling you josh i don't know how you feel about this i think this could be

00:30:35.640 the day of of uh uh of america's crystal knock i i i can see these pro-life centers being burned to the

00:30:44.660 ground today um they're calling for a night of rage around the country i mean i think evil is going

00:30:50.840 to show itself and that'll scare the american people hopefully you know i've been thinking about

00:30:59.740 this a lot this week actually because i i've been bracing for kind of a new george floyd summer of

00:31:05.420 love kind of thing happening this summer coming to a city or a suburb near you unfortunately myself

00:31:10.140 look i i live in florida glenn i know you live in texas i it it is a moment like this where i do

00:31:17.600 think that where you live matters and who your mayor is who your governor is matters because law

00:31:25.320 and order and you know rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue i mean it is it is to a

00:31:31.240 limited extent i mean in june 2020 tom codden wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time

00:31:36.900 i happen to agree with it where he said quote unquote send in the troops and there is some

00:31:41.140 federal legislation from the reconstruction era that would justify that but um most kind of quelling

00:31:47.400 and quashing of anarchy does happen constitutionally speaking at the state and local level so

00:31:51.960 at a moment like this where i fear that you are probably not wrong i i i take some solace that

00:31:58.880 governor de santis is my governor i think texans you know should take some solace that they are

00:32:02.960 represented by by a republican governor and state legislature there as well so i i i fear that you

00:32:11.400 are right i i i pray obviously that no one is harmed i i mean i fear though that that is something

00:32:20.120 done that something bad is happening and uh at the end of the day of course that does not mean the

00:32:24.740 justices cannot do what they are supposed to do so thank god they did that

00:32:28.940 so josh have you looked into what the the white house has been saying the white house yesterday

00:32:35.400 in fact i think do we have a clip of of uh of this what the white house said yesterday about

00:32:41.280 the guns and then they were turned to the uh the scotus ruling for roe versus wade we have that please

00:32:49.980 will the president accept this decision as legitimate even if he disagrees with it

00:32:54.320 i think it's going to come from the supreme court so it's going to be a decision that uh we're

00:32:59.280 certainly are going to respond to uh so i'll leave it at me it's like it's just like any other

00:33:04.060 supreme court decision just like the one uh that they did today on on guns so the white house won't

00:33:11.360 say that they're going to accept it which i don't think they will um they're talking now about uh

00:33:17.240 taking um doctors and moving them into places like oklahoma or texas where abortions will be 1.00

00:33:23.580 outlawed and putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions uh i mean where does this go

00:33:33.640 when you have a government that is in defiance of of one branch of the government

00:33:40.640 so there's a lot to unpack here so we should start from first principles um the idea of judicial

00:33:51.020 supremacy and this is this is a peculiar thing to say on a day like today where such a pro-life

00:33:56.420 victory has happened admittedly but if we're going to be intellectually consistent here the idea of of

00:34:00.780 judicial supremacy the idea that the justices have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the

00:34:07.500 constitution for themselves and no other constitutional actor in article one or article two let alone the

00:34:13.380 state has the ability to independently interpret it that is erroneous in fact actually it was really

00:34:18.200 abraham lincoln actually who in the dred scott case famously opposed judicial supremacy and

00:34:23.680 and flouted the dred scott ruling at least as it pertained to everyone other than dred scott himself

00:34:28.940 so i i have actually argued in formal legal scholarship and law review article actually that

00:34:35.080 that the lincolnian view of how each branch of government should interpret the constitution

00:34:39.780 for itself in its own ambit is correct having said that having said that there is a thing called

00:34:47.240 prudence and there's a thing called comedy and in a in a moment like today when it really does look

00:34:55.200 like i and i agree with you that we are now bracing for riots through the streets when the political

00:35:00.260 rhetoric is at defcon one when people are trying to assassinate supreme court justices i think it would be

00:35:07.400 at a bare minimum a profoundly imprudent act for the for the uh for the vine administration to try to

00:35:15.340 undermine this ruling now what they might do is they they might try to kind of issue some kind of limp

00:35:20.940 executive orders or issue some regulations that might try to kind of undermine it at the edges here

00:35:26.840 but at the end of the day the idea that this returns to the states there's not really a whole lot they

00:35:33.000 can do about that i mean basically at this point if red states throughout the country uh kentucky

00:35:38.640 west virginia kansas whatever if they want to go ahead and ban abortion what can the biden

00:35:43.120 administration literally do about that i mean short of sending in the national guard to protect

00:35:48.900 planned parenthood if the state legislature of kentucky goes ahead and bans it there's really not a

00:35:53.360 whole lot they can do and it's very difficult to envision a world in which the biden administration

00:35:57.960 literally sends in troops to red states to protect planned parenthood if that state legislature goes

00:36:04.240 ahead and bans it so practically speaking this is like a lot of tough talk and rhetoric this obviously

00:36:09.360 is a campaign year in 2022 so there's really not a whole lot that practically speaking they can do to

00:36:14.180 actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation i'm glad to uh glad to hear

00:36:21.700 that i know that they have been uh working uh on things i mean he has said you know there's executive

00:36:28.200 orders that i can employ there are things that i can do uh he's talked about a national public health

00:36:35.140 emergency um which i think is just is crazy um but i would hope that the president would come out

00:36:43.500 today and say we strongly disagree with this um and you're right the the court is not the end all

00:36:50.100 um but the court did not uh end abortion it just said the people should decide i think that's the best

00:36:59.300 kind of uh court ruling on any of it the people should decide what this is um and send it back to the

00:37:06.520 states josh i i thank you very much appreciate your time uh was there there was another ruling that came

00:37:13.660 out today was it important oh no i mean in comparison to this total total nothing burger

00:37:21.260 it's like a 5-4 decision on something medicare reimbursement related so it's a real nothing

00:37:26.340 honestly great thank you very much appreciate it josh josh hammer opinion editor for newsweek

00:37:32.400 and the host of the josh hammer show

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 24, 2022

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