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00:03:02.380you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program the uh federalist editor-in-chief and
00:03:12.280the author of alito molly hemingway molly how are you it's great to be here with you i'm doing great
00:03:17.760yeah great great great to have you um boy what what perfect timing uh to have you on and to have
00:03:25.220your new book out uh with what happened yesterday you want to give us a quick look at what alito
00:03:30.460said in his decision and the meaning behind the court decision yesterday yeah the supreme court
00:03:37.540has had to deal with all sorts of cases that are very frustrating for them dealing with conflicting
00:03:43.120lower court opinions about how to enact the voting rights act now we know that the constitution
00:03:49.820forbids racism and so you're not allowed to draw racially based you know districts in your in your
00:03:56.800maps. But we also had a bunch of federal courts saying you had to be racist in your drawing of
00:04:02.780districts. And so there was a mess that needed to be settled. Alito wrote this masterful major
00:04:09.520opinion saying that the Constitution forbids racism. The Voting Rights Act was not written
00:04:18.120and could not be written to oppose what the Constitution says. And so Section 2, which some
00:04:23.760people had interpreted as requiring racist maps. That's clearly not the meaning that the legislators
00:04:31.200who did the Voting Rights Act intended, and the racism is ended. Now, the reason why this is
00:04:36.860interesting is because Democrats have exploited these federal rulings to create these very racial
00:04:44.700maps that have given them an undue advantage in certain states. And so ruling these congressional
00:04:52.120districts as unconstitutional and contrary to the Voting Rights Act itself means that they're all
00:04:57.940going to be going away. And you saw states just yesterday saying, okay, we're going to get back
00:05:02.500into session so we can draw non-racist maps. Help me out on gerrymandering. I mean, I know this
00:05:09.780comes from one of our founders, and they were doing this right at the very beginning. I just
00:05:15.640think it is the worst it's the worst idea of the republic and of the from the founding era it's not
00:05:23.840part of our documents but um it was what eldridge uh gary that actually yeah that did this um what
00:05:33.900was the thinking back then and why can't we stop this i mean i think it you know i think it was
00:05:39.320jefferson and adams went back and forth and said we should have based it like on the bible where
00:05:44.520it's stakes where you have a hundred people and when it gets over a hundred then you divide that
00:05:49.800equally in half and you just keep making it into blocks um and it's the way to keep everybody
00:05:56.300you know keep your politicians in that block they're not some some you know somebody that's
00:06:02.520from you know on a thin snake-like line across the state they're in your neighborhood they're
00:06:08.160in your area. Why is this still happening? Why can't we get rid of this? Well, yesterday's
00:06:15.660ruling deals only with racial gerrymandering. That means you can still gerrymander. And I agree
00:06:22.200with you, Glenn. I think it's very bad for the republic. It's bad because it also debunked.
00:06:27.220John Tillman is this guy who lives in Chicago, and he had this point about how when you create
00:06:31.360these gerrymandered districts that are overwhelmingly one particular interest group,
00:06:36.500It means that the other people who are in that group, who are in that congressional district or a city or county district, they're not getting good representation.
00:06:46.780I think it's very radical, but my idea is that we should just absolutely greatly expand the House of Representatives.
00:06:54.540The real problem is we don't really have any representation at all.
00:06:58.460Very hard to have a member of the House who is even close to representing his constituency because it's gotten so big.
00:07:06.500So I'd like to see almost like a Thunderdome House of Representatives, where every 10,000 people gets their own representative.
00:07:14.180It would be messy, but I think you would have more representative government.
00:07:17.560The House is completely broken, so is the Senate.
00:07:21.200Part of that is that they're so detached from the people they're supposed to represent.
00:07:26.780Well, but gerrymandering actually is a reason for that.
00:07:30.480I just did a monologue in our number one on why this is actually good, because this this ruling for for blacks or anybody who is taken for granted when you create a district where you know how it's going to vote, the politician doesn't have to work for your vote anymore.0.55
00:07:47.380you know so nobody listens to you you wonder why who's representing me why how can they go 80 percent
00:07:54.300the population is 80 percent for you know uh id voter id and yet neither party wants to pass this
00:08:02.180who are they representing well they're not representing you because republicans know they
00:08:06.880can always count on your vote democrats know they can always count on the black vote all they have
00:08:11.260to do is say a few things you know orrin hatch said to me one time and i was so disgusted by it
00:08:16.500I just, I, it was said everything I needed to know. It was about 2009 tea party had just started and I'm sitting at a table with a bunch of politicians and Orrin Hatch is sitting there. And he said, ah, you don't have to worry about these, these people, meaning the tea party. You don't have to worry about these people. All I have to do is get up and I'm going to propose a flag burning amendment and they'll all be back on my side.
00:08:43.300I was like, oh, my gosh, I need a bucket to vomit in. It was disgusting. But that's the difference between being managed and being represented.0.97
00:08:53.400Well, I think you're exactly right. And you saw it yesterday. Democrats said if we're not allowed to be racist, it's going to hurt our power.
00:09:01.260And I understand that being racist in the drawing of maps has helped Democrats, but I don't think it's an unalloyed bad for Democrats or good for Republicans that these racist maps won't be allowed to stand.
00:09:13.560Because of what you just said, if you aren't allowed to divide people into these super safe districts based on race, you'll have people who have to represent their whole constituency.
00:09:24.460And I think you will see seats and more competitive seats is actually a good thing. Right now, it's like very few switch one way or the other.
00:09:34.580And also, that's how you get radical representatives. I mean, look at the people that are representing people in the country or their district. You know, I understand it from San Francisco. I don't understand it from 70 percent of our representatives. They're radicals because they can play that because it's been gerrymandered so much. You don't have to play to the normal person. You play to the fringes.
00:10:02.500it makes it very hard to work across party lines uh it just it causes a lot of problems
00:10:09.120i mean some of those radicals are my favorite people
00:10:11.200um so let's talk about uh the book alito that you just finished you spent a lot of time with him
00:10:19.740um let me start with a broad question i and i'm just a casual i'm not like you i'm a cat more of
00:10:27.700a casual observer of you know the supreme court and watching what they're doing um but my impression
00:10:33.900is molly that this is the fairest supreme court we've had in my lifetime not that they agree with
00:10:42.840me on everything they don't but it seems as though they're trying to get it right and they
00:10:49.960make mistakes they get you know they'll go one way or another but this does not seem like a radical
00:10:55.480supreme court unless you know you're looking for the progressive supreme court that will just
00:11:01.220you know you know interpret the law any way they want and forget about the constitution
00:11:06.640yeah i think that's why is that a fair go ahead i agree and the left has been freaking out about
00:11:13.660this court because for decades they controlled the supreme court it wasn't like other you know
00:11:18.580it wasn't like the presidency which went back and forth they just had complete control and they had
00:11:22.880embraced this idea of rule of men. You had people like Justice Brennan saying that he thinks that
00:11:29.100what he feels about the current moment is what's important, not what the Constitution meant at its
00:11:34.440founding. You have this major movement take place where people say, this is just madness. They're
00:11:39.640just legislating from the bench. And for the first time in our country's history, we have a majority
00:11:45.540of justices who say that they want to adhere to the original meaning of the Constitution at the
00:11:51.380time it was framed and they're doing really good good work logical reasonable work to have a
00:11:58.640coherent make a case for the democrat that's listening that actually they are fair they've
00:12:08.360they've done some things that are good for you well you can even look at the you know a lot of
00:12:14.360my book deals with the overturning of roe v wade and a lot of people on the left were very upset
00:12:19.820about that because they love abortion or they love the idea that abortion was hidden. You know,
00:12:26.360Roe v. Wade said abortion was hidden in the Constitution by the founders. It's in between
00:12:31.260a couple of words. Nobody actually believes that, but they did like that it gave the broad right to
00:12:37.680abortion. And when Justice Alito wrote the opinion that overturned that, the media and other left-wing
00:12:45.440groups definitely freaked out about it, but it was actually a very modest opinion that returns
00:12:51.900power to the, it didn't say abortion is now forbidden or unborn children have a right to
00:12:59.260life that's in the 14th amendment. It said that people get to decide what their abortion policy
00:13:04.620is. And you might not like that you have to do that work of debating and hashing things out at
00:13:10.520your state or federal legislature, but it's a very modest opinion. And even here, this idea that you
00:13:17.700cannot be racist, that's in the Constitution. The 15th Amendment was passed precisely so that
00:13:25.140states would not be racist when it came to election law. And you might say, but I like this
00:13:29.840form of racism because it helps the Democrats. I think we all know deep down that racism is bad
00:13:35.820and that it's forbidden by the Constitution
00:14:15.700They're suggesting that black voters will be disenfranchised now.
00:14:20.360Quoting from The Atlantic, the Roberts Court is creating a world in which the federal government does not interfere with the right of white Americans to dominate those they see as their lessors.
00:14:33.740OK, so on Wednesday, the court dealt with a key provision in the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and they sided with Louisiana Republicans and Donald Trump blocking an electoral map that created a second majority black congressional district.
00:14:55.7206-3 decision so this is not just a you know party line 6-3 decision the justices upheld
00:15:03.040a lower court ruling that found the map unconstitutional why because they were basing
00:15:10.780the gerrymandering on race now i'm gonna everybody can talk about this in any way that they want to
00:15:17.420and they're gonna of course you know chuck schumer is like man i'm jim crow jim crow jim crow
00:15:23.440it's not Jim Crow you know why why do people why do people listen to these people I mean this
00:15:31.500sincerely think think so let me get this right so the people who were for slavery they fought
00:15:40.460for slavery from the beginning of the republic they were the ones who split apart and said I
00:15:47.540don't want to be a part of the republic if they have to tell if they're going to tell us we can't
00:15:51.200have slaves. Then when they lost the war, they went in, they were for Jim Crow laws. They were0.81
00:15:59.560the ones taking away, they started the Klan. That was actually, and I have the documents to prove it0.97
00:16:05.240in our vault, they started the Klan. It was Antifa, really. That's what it was. It was an0.83
00:16:14.680old timey Antifa, make you afraid, shut you up. Okay. Stop you from doing anything. And0.98
00:16:22.260the primary target was, uh, was the black individual, but right alongside was anyone0.96
00:16:30.740who said blacks can vote. Blacks are just like you and me. Anyone, if you were white and you said0.92
00:16:38.500that, you were strung up as well. Okay. That's just a fact. So they're the ones who started the0.67
00:16:45.760Klan. Then they were the ones, Woodrow Wilson, that brought all of race back into the government,0.91
00:16:53.060segregated our government again. They were the ones with eugenics and saying that there are0.85
00:16:58.920subspecies. They were the ones against the Civil Rights Act. They were the ones who marched against0.64
00:17:06.560Martin Luther King. They were the ones who celebrated Martin Luther King's death. They
00:17:11.640were the ones that put in the great society, which has destroyed the black family. And yet,1.00
00:17:18.000somehow or another, you're listening to them telling you what's best for your family, your race.
00:17:26.580First of all, government and people, we need to start looking at people as people, not groups,
00:17:33.860not race not by your income level or anything else stop look at people as individuals I mean
00:17:43.500I believe it was Martin Luther King's dream by the way this is the same party that says
00:17:47.860Martin Luther King wasn't all that they celebrated and celebrated and celebrated
00:17:53.160until they started to expose who they really are and now they're saying yeah Martin Luther King
00:17:57.760he doesn't get it. So you're listening to them about Jim Crow laws. And I can't, I kind of
00:18:05.220understand it because I mean, they're the ones behind the Jim Crow laws. So they probably know0.74
00:18:10.460it better than anybody else. Let me, let me tell you why, what the Supreme court did is good for
00:18:18.960everyone. And in particular, the black community. And I would say this, if it was a, if the whole
00:18:26.540situation were reversed and it was all about whites. When you look at our government, do you0.99
00:18:37.540feel that you are fairly represented even by the people you just voted for? And I'll use this on me
00:18:46.640with Republicans. I don't think they're representing me. I don't think they're representing you. When
00:18:51.52080% of the population says they're for voter ID and both parties are not listening, they're
00:18:59.840fighting against that, who are they representing, right? So you have to ask this question,
00:19:06.880are you represented or are you being managed? Because those are not the same thing.
00:19:15.140representation means a politician wakes up in the morning knowing they can lose you
00:19:22.180it means your vote actually has teeth it means if they don't deliver if they drift if they lie
00:19:31.360if they forget about you you pull the lever the other way and it's the end of their career
00:19:35.760that's representation management is different management is when your vote is already accounted
00:19:46.280for it's filed away predicted before you even step in yeah john i'm not gonna lose john's vote
00:19:51.520john's with me no matter what i do okay you're no longer a citizen that they have to convince
00:19:57.320if they don't have to convince you they don't care about representing you you're an asset that just
00:20:02.740needs to be maintained and maintenance is cheap. The acquisition of that vote is hard. Maintenance
00:20:09.760is easy. You do a speech here, a headline there, maybe a program that is announced, even if it
00:20:15.660doesn't work. Yeah, well, I did that program. Okay. You don't have to solve problems when the
00:20:22.480outcome is already locked in. They don't even have to listen to you. You just have to keep the
00:20:27.920temperature from boiling over. That's all you have to do. And when you start to have problems,
00:20:33.080because they're locked into you to get away from your problems, all you have to do is go,
00:20:38.900you know what? It's these guys over here that are trying to convince you that I'm a bad guy.
00:20:43.640Don't listen to them. Jim Crow, Jim Crow, Jim Crow. Anytime any group of Americans or any
00:20:50.580citizens that are represented becomes predictable, then they stop being the focus of performance,
00:20:59.360actual action, and start being the focus of just messaging. That's it. If you are 90% locked in,
00:21:06.060you're managed. If you are 50-50, you're represented. A politician only has to ask
00:21:15.120a simple, just a few simple questions at election time. And this is all they ask. I can guarantee
00:21:20.360you this is it. Where's the risk? Where can I lose? Who can I gain? Where do I have to prove
00:21:31.400something? That's where all of the attention, the money, and the focus goes. If you are loyal,
00:21:39.120he or she doesn't even think about you. Why should he? He's got other people that he's got
00:21:43.480to gain or not lose you're locked in and not because of who you vote for but because of what
00:21:51.000that does to your power what is the whole point of the republic it was it was it was not to be
00:22:05.220locked in on anything it was to be listened to to be represented listen to me how many times have
00:22:12.920you said that in your life. I wish these people would just, how many times have you had a
00:22:16.680conversation? Guys, you and I know we could go to Washington. We could fix this damn thing.
00:22:21.320It's not that hard, right? Just listen to us. The founders did not design a system for permanent0.99
00:22:29.200coalitions, but that's what the parties have created. The founders designed one of constant
00:22:35.960tension. This is why George Washington said, stay away from the two-party system. You got to get
00:22:40.340away from it. It'll be the death of the Republic. For instability in just the right way, so no one
00:22:48.760could ever sit comfortably knowing, I got it. You're supposed to be unpredictable. You're
00:22:55.640supposed to be difficult, demanding. You were supposed to make them earn it every single time.
00:23:03.040but we traded we traded that for identity and habit which means nothing whole groups of Americans
00:23:13.500left right doesn't matter why they're safe let me ask you this Native Americans who do you vote for
00:23:21.260usually guarantee you vote for the Democrats you vote for the liberals want to look at your0.99
00:23:27.020situation do you think maybe something would change if you were like you know what I don't
00:23:31.900think I'm going to vote for you? What have you done for us? And you actually were taken seriously
00:23:36.640that you might vote another way. We become safe districts, safe voters, safe assumptions,
00:23:44.400and safe politicians. That's when the shift happens. And the shift is from serving to managing.
00:23:54.360And when you're managed long enough, two things happen. One, you stop expecting results.
00:24:00.100and when that happens you start measuring words instead of outcomes what did they say how many
00:24:07.380of us are sick and tired i've heard the speech i don't care what they say anymore i want to see it
00:24:12.640in action we're going to hold these people responsible have they the second thing that
00:24:18.840happens is you start defending the people who should be answering to you let me say that again
00:24:24.360you start defending people who should be answering to you
00:24:30.920isn't that what's happening because this is this is how the world is turned upside down and inside
00:24:37.300out because you the voter have begun serving the politician and the party the representation
00:24:46.680is gone all of us are asking they don't represent me who are they representing
00:24:52.780the party and you are defending it and that all happened because they can count on your vote
00:25:01.100so what should the goal be not about switching parties every cycle to prove a point
00:25:08.500it's just restoring uncertainty stability you know the everything works best when there is
00:25:17.560predictable unpredictability. You don't want chaos. You want predictable unpredictability.
00:25:26.580So you have to make it clear, no matter who you are, no matter where you live,
00:25:31.200no matter your skin color, you can't count on my vote. That support has conditions.0.71
00:25:39.760And one of the conditions is what are your actions? What are you actually doing for me?
00:25:45.480you know if you took a car you bought a car and you just loved say whatever you just you
00:25:52.760you loved Chevy and Chevy no longer cared about you they were only about selling the next car to0.71
00:25:59.980somebody else who isn't a Chevy driver you went in for service and they treated you like garbage
00:26:04.980and when they fixed it they never really fixed anything and you were like you know what guys
00:26:09.860can you just fix this i love your cars can you just fix this yep we're gonna fix it and then0.97
00:26:15.720they never fix it how long would you drive a chevy why is it they have been giving you a crap
00:26:22.380box on wheels for a hundred years slapping you and your family and everything you hold dear0.99
00:26:29.900ever notice if you look at the actual moral backbone of the black community they're conservative0.88
00:26:38.700They're probably more conservative in many ways, especially on God and family,
00:26:43.740than the average white conservative is.
00:40:43.720Like, I did a podcast with The Economist yesterday in Britain, and she's like, don't you think that the problem with Tommy and what he's doing is that he's stereotyping people.
00:40:53.180And there could be innocent, you know, Muslims who are falling into this category.
00:40:57.840And I'm like, you know what's inconvenient?0.98
00:40:59.720Being sodomized by an old man when you're 11 years old.0.71
00:41:03.000like there are thousands and thousands of child rapes where i'm not even sure i can say it on the0.95
00:41:08.580show what they do like nailing a girl's tongue into a piece of wood while she's being raped no0.63
00:41:13.300raping her under the pakistani flag branding girls with an m for muhammad and the elites0.98
00:41:19.960takeaway at the economist is but what if we offend people children being raped is much more offensive0.95
00:41:26.540than someone being inconvenienced and if you're being inconvenienced by the way as a moderate0.91
00:41:30.620muslim you should be mad at the gaudies for creating this pattern you're falling into yes
00:41:35.480it's not my problem yes you're listening to the best of the glenn beck podcast hear more of this0.94
00:41:40.720interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts okay if you
00:41:46.880ever feel like you're alone imagine this you're in new york city you are a conservative and you
00:41:56.020are on the New York City City Council. There are 51 members. You're one of five Republicans.
00:42:06.400You're very alone. Vicki Palladino is with us. She is the New York City Councilwoman who is in
00:42:15.200big trouble. They're going after her and all kinds of things. For speaking what I believe
00:42:20.460is the truth and we want to get an update on what mom donnie looks like now and in the future
00:42:28.400from the new york uh perspective uh welcome vicky how are you oh good morning glenn thank you so
00:42:36.680very much for having me on it's an honor i mean you go back a long time i go back a long time with
00:42:43.800you so it's really very thank you for having me on uh you know it's it's weird when when i vicky
00:42:50.940when i said years ago you know that communist and socialist and anarchist would uh you know come in
00:42:57.040with the islamist work together to overthrow stability and the western way of life and western0.77
00:43:02.800world i never thought it would happen with the mayor of new york city and i know you're in trouble0.64
00:43:10.140for for saying this but i see him as the the definition really of the red green alliance
00:43:18.680100 you were right then and you're right again today uh what people don't realize is like you
00:43:27.340said and it goes back decades this has been decades in the making and uh they lay in all
00:43:33.240their groundwork you know bridget gabriel when i first heard her speak how to be back in 2017
00:43:40.120and i was just astonished not just by her story but her predictions and what we should expect
00:43:49.620here in america you know the takeover from within so to expect uh the new mayor of new york city
00:43:58.700a 34 year old who just became an american citizen only some 10 years uh between seven and 10 years
00:44:07.300ago uh secured a seat in our new york state assembly as a dsa now we cannot categorize this
00:44:16.440young guy as a democrat though he ran and won on the democratic line what we've watched and
00:44:24.760witnessed throughout the country and here in new york is the democrat sensible what we'd like to
00:44:31.380refer to as sensible though we're losing hope in that as well take a knee to uh the democrat
00:44:37.940socialist party and that's what we've done and uh anybody who knows new york politics knows
00:44:45.320that we've had our fair share of bad mayors but this is not about a mayor no this is about an
00:44:53.500inexperienced uh young man who won a state assembly seat who did nothing with that and
00:45:00.020And then the next thing you know, he's running for mayor of New York on the Democratic line.
00:45:46.460So take us back a summer or two when we had the big eruptions of these university campuses being taken over.0.93
00:45:57.780by the pro-Palestinian movement his father along with Piker Hassan and the rest of them
00:46:06.280Hassan Piker and he was part of this this young man and uh the writing was on the wall two years
00:46:13.800ago but again I think Glenn trying to be reasonable people that we are and trying to think like this
00:46:21.780could never happen well it did and man did it ever so we are okay so i want to let me let me
00:46:31.840break this up into two things um and i want to talk to you about both of them one holy cow just
00:46:39.800business the guy has no business sense the budget is out of control he's promising free stuff he's
00:46:46.920driving out the tax base this is really bad i want to talk to you quickly about you know where's that
00:46:52.940tax money going to come from when all the millionaires are gone uh and what this means
00:46:57.380and then i also want to go back to the islamic side but first let's just deal with his yeah what
00:47:04.440is coming for new york business well first of all we're watching uh gigantic companies leave
00:47:14.060our downtown wall street midtown area uh these are people who employ over 20 000 people some
00:47:22.300companies we just watched apollo global leave the city of new york right now they're moving
00:47:28.600to texas and to florida that company alone just to put it on a scale here is worth 900 billion
00:47:38.020that's almost a trillion dollars they're picking up and they're moving now what we have that's
00:47:45.620just one of them word came down yesterday something about charles schwab moving uh word
00:47:51.600also came down about chase moving their main headquarters out of the city of new york so what
00:47:59.120we have and what we're looking at here you're in a serious business and what what is our leadership
00:48:05.300chase man yeah there is no leadership so we have we are looking down the barrel of a gun
00:48:13.640uh he claims we're broke well yeah we're broke uh but we also you also are looking for a 15
00:48:21.520billion dollar bailout you know we budget by bailout here in new york city and he's going
00:48:27.700hat in hand much like a child because that's how i treat him you know as a child uh
00:48:33.760And he's going to his mom and dad, which is Governor Hochul, and asking her to please give us money and to extend the deadline of New York State's budget to May 12th.