The Glenn Beck Program - April 18, 2024


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41 minutes

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7,349

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564

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Robert F. Kennedy announces he s running for president as an independent. Glenn Beck and Pat Buchanan react to the news and discuss the possibility of a possible run. They also discuss Alex Jones' interview with the late Robert Kennedy and how he should have handled it.

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00:01:53.040 Robert F. Kennedy announced today he is running for president as an independent.
00:01:57.400 He's changed his mind.
00:01:59.460 He's one of us now.
00:02:00.900 RFK called for my execution.
00:02:03.160 Well, I called you a traitor.
00:02:04.100 The next time you see Glenn Beck lying to the American public.
00:02:07.940 I respect him as a man.
00:02:10.560 I am not looking to sabotage him.
00:02:13.040 I don't want him to be president.
00:02:14.780 But that's not my decision.
00:02:16.960 That's your decision.
00:02:20.560 Robert, welcome to the program.
00:02:22.400 Thanks for having me.
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00:02:37.420 It's a good trailer.
00:02:38.660 It's a good trailer right there.
00:02:40.600 You know, I feel as though I let people down in a way because it's such a weird paradox.
00:02:56.680 Because I did not come gunning for him.
00:03:02.300 And that's what I wanted to do.
00:03:04.300 I think we should use that terminology with a candidate.
00:03:05.240 Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
00:03:06.000 I didn't mean it that way.
00:03:07.580 Ian Gladbeck is gunning for a candidate.
00:03:10.180 Well, Joe Biden would be okay with that.
00:03:12.300 I mean, there's no security on him.
00:03:13.780 But I wanted so badly to just take him apart.
00:03:26.460 But I don't feel that's my job.
00:03:30.800 My job is to just ask questions that people want to know and have a decent conversation with somebody.
00:03:41.120 Yeah, I think that's – I mean, you're not going to go in there and – that's not what you do.
00:03:46.960 I can't invite – I've always said this.
00:03:49.340 I cannot invite somebody into my own house and then set them on fire.
00:03:54.820 It's not really good.
00:03:57.280 But I did say to him, there were some things that you have said in the past that Glenn will address.
00:04:05.320 Yes, and he – so he knew that I was going to be addressing a few things.
00:04:09.560 But I just – I don't know.
00:04:12.460 Yeah, you didn't ambush him.
00:04:13.580 No.
00:04:14.020 You shouldn't do that with anybody.
00:04:16.180 I felt the same exact way about the Alex Jones interview.
00:04:19.940 But you did.
00:04:20.320 I wanted to go in there, you know, guns blazing, metaphorically speaking.
00:04:24.440 But he was so nice.
00:04:29.460 Yeah, I couldn't.
00:04:30.720 I couldn't.
00:04:31.480 I asked him the questions I wanted to ask him, I think, for the most part.
00:04:34.860 But I, you know, I thought it was going to be confrontational.
00:04:38.640 And it –
00:04:40.080 It wasn't.
00:04:40.540 Was it that way with RFK?
00:04:43.100 It wasn't confrontational?
00:04:44.280 Yeah, because I asked him some things.
00:04:46.160 First of all, I mean, I have great, tremendous respect for his dad.
00:04:49.620 I think Bobby Kennedy was the good Kennedy.
00:04:51.560 You don't think so, Pat?
00:04:55.000 No, I mean, he probably –
00:04:58.320 Relatively speaking, yes.
00:05:01.060 Right.
00:05:01.640 I think it was Ted.
00:05:02.620 I think Ted was the good one.
00:05:03.600 Yeah.
00:05:03.860 And now JFK would – wouldn't even make it into the Republican Party, let alone the Democrats.
00:05:11.340 Yeah.
00:05:12.700 So, you know, we started talking on things like that.
00:05:17.360 And he was – he never gave solid answers.
00:05:21.780 He would give, you know, very nice scenarios, nice things that he wanted to do.
00:05:28.920 But I never felt like I really got an answer, you know?
00:05:33.800 But I –
00:05:35.080 Were you able to at least, I think, you know, because obviously a lot of the people listening
00:05:38.440 to this are going to be conservatives that are listening to your podcast, were you able
00:05:42.180 to at least illuminate some of his more liberal views?
00:05:46.040 Because I feel like what's been on about the RFK thing –
00:05:48.440 He kept changing – he kept saying, I still believe in – for instance, we talked about
00:05:54.380 ESG.
00:05:56.060 And do you believe in ESG?
00:05:58.540 Do you believe that banks should be able to say what people can invest in and debanking
00:06:04.600 people?
00:06:05.500 And he said, what is that?
00:06:07.520 And I said, ESG.
00:06:10.480 He looked at me like – and I actually – I can't imagine how, but I actually believe him
00:06:18.100 that he didn't know what ESG was.
00:06:21.660 I mean, that's –
00:06:22.420 And he said, I know.
00:06:23.860 Incomprehensible in 2024.
00:06:24.340 You can't be president if you don't know what that is.
00:06:26.700 But I said, ESG.
00:06:31.400 And he just kept looking at me.
00:06:33.140 I said, environmental, social, and governance.
00:06:37.380 And he said, oh, environmental – I'm still right where I was on environmental.
00:06:42.840 And I said, no, do you believe?
00:06:44.880 And he said, well, no, I don't believe that.
00:06:48.660 So it was never – I just didn't feel like you could really pin him down.
00:06:53.940 He kept coming back, however, to, you know, COVID changed everything for me.
00:07:01.460 Now, whether that did or not, I've always looked for turning points.
00:07:05.720 I've looked for that pivot point in people's lives.
00:07:08.140 He claims that's his pivot point.
00:07:10.920 Maybe it is.
00:07:12.280 You know, some – if you want to be president of the United States, I'd like to see a little
00:07:15.680 setting time of the cake.
00:07:17.720 You know, you take the cake out of the oven.
00:07:19.040 Maybe let it set a little bit before you eat it.
00:07:20.960 And it's like, okay, like, this is a guy who argued for decades, by the way.
00:07:28.200 And we have, you know, the one clip is in the trailer of him basically calling you a
00:07:31.200 traitor for not having the same view as on global warming.
00:07:35.360 But that went on for decades after that clip where he was saying people like the Koch brothers
00:07:39.940 should be put – they should go to the Hague.
00:07:42.740 These are his quotes.
00:07:43.740 Now, I am not completely stunned that after COVID and he went through a lot of – of all
00:07:52.520 of a sudden his views were out of line with what everyone liked and all of a sudden he
00:07:56.520 was feeling those pressures.
00:07:57.660 I'm not surprised that would change his perspective.
00:08:00.360 However, I'm a little skeptical of a person who believed that for that long of a time and
00:08:05.160 only changed his mind because it hurt him.
00:08:07.220 That's not the type of principle I want in a leader of the country.
00:08:10.800 Is he defending American values or is he defending, wow, this thing happened to me and now I realize
00:08:16.460 it's real?
00:08:17.060 He said – and you'll hear it and you can believe it or not by listening to him.
00:08:21.920 You know, he said that it was not that it happened to him.
00:08:26.720 It was that he did not expect the American people nor the government to actually do things
00:08:35.540 like that.
00:08:36.600 You mean the things that he was advocating for for multiple decades?
00:08:39.060 So, basically, he claimed it was hyperbolic.
00:08:44.440 And it probably was.
00:08:45.640 Yeah.
00:08:45.740 Like, I don't – I don't know.
00:08:46.920 I mean, we all – I mean, you know, when you just said, I want to go gunning for him.
00:08:51.040 Yeah.
00:08:51.340 You know, and I don't mean it that way.
00:08:53.060 We would have never said that 20 years ago, 15 years ago.
00:08:55.820 We all would have known.
00:08:57.040 Yeah.
00:08:57.340 We still do.
00:08:58.720 But, like, that's not –
00:09:00.200 I know.
00:09:00.640 That was not what he was doing.
00:09:02.600 I'm sorry.
00:09:03.120 That was not a joke based on a terrible incident in the Kennedy family history.
00:09:07.720 You're going to have to decide for yourself.
00:09:09.540 He was advocating for a policy and did it for a long time in a lot of detail over multiple decades.
00:09:17.220 That's like you being like, you know, I just don't like capitalism anymore because that thing that happened last week makes me president.
00:09:24.660 Like, what?
00:09:25.740 What?
00:09:26.460 No.
00:09:27.240 How about the – you know what?
00:09:28.280 You set for the – you marinate in that opinion and wait for it to challenge you again and let's see how hard you hold that line.
00:09:35.300 Well, I'd be – like, this is outside of who he is as a person and the things that I don't like about him.
00:09:43.220 But it's like anybody, I think, that is a rational request.
00:09:46.900 Like, if a massive change in all of your opinions happened within the last presidential cycle, I don't know, maybe wait one more presidential cycle before you're the president.
00:09:58.660 I don't know.
00:09:59.120 That's a crazy line for me.
00:10:00.380 Well, he's going to.
00:10:01.520 At least one and probably many more than that.
00:10:04.320 He's not going to win, but still, it's a frustrating thing.
00:10:07.520 No, but, you know, he could –
00:10:09.160 He could affect, hopefully, Joe Biden.
00:10:12.360 Yeah.
00:10:13.300 Atversely.
00:10:14.720 He was talking, you know, to Republicans.
00:10:18.280 I know.
00:10:19.120 I mean, he is saying –
00:10:21.180 He claims he was offered the VP job under Trump.
00:10:25.540 Yeah.
00:10:26.000 I don't know if I believe that.
00:10:27.000 Yeah.
00:10:27.500 He claims that that happened.
00:10:28.480 I actually walked away liking him, thinking he's a very – he's – when it comes to foreign policy, he's much smarter than I thought.
00:10:39.320 We agreed on a lot of things.
00:10:42.880 Because if you trust, I thought there were things that, you know, kind of overlapped that – and I ended up liking him, but I don't trust him.
00:10:54.780 And that just comes, I think, from time, like you were saying.
00:10:57.360 You know, I have no idea if that's real or not.
00:11:00.640 I have no idea.
00:11:02.480 And in today's world, I'm not willing to roll the dice.
00:11:06.960 We're already rolling the dice with every candidate.
00:11:11.040 Why roll the dice with this one?
00:11:13.240 We know what Biden is going to do.
00:11:15.860 He's proven it to us.
00:11:17.020 We know what Donald Trump is going to do.
00:11:19.400 He's proven it to us.
00:11:21.020 I'd rather not try this one out on the –
00:11:23.560 No kidding.
00:11:24.480 You know, on the Daytona 500.
00:11:26.760 Plus, you know –
00:11:27.340 Let's have him run a few laps elsewhere.
00:11:30.120 On the things on which we disagree, we disagree vehemently, like climate change, like abortion.
00:11:37.220 I mean, those are – sorry.
00:11:39.360 Those are kind of two big ones, right?
00:11:40.960 Those are really big ones for me.
00:11:41.800 Climate change is the control, basically, of the entire economy.
00:11:44.300 Yeah.
00:11:44.780 So that's a big one to disagree with somebody.
00:11:47.480 Abortion, these are children that will either live or die.
00:11:50.540 Right.
00:11:50.800 So it's kind of a big issue for me.
00:11:51.700 Well, I don't know if you've heard, but in Arizona, the Republicans just can't get their act together.
00:11:58.020 I have heard that.
00:11:59.820 I heard this this morning on a podcast, and they were like, oh, well, the Republicans couldn't get their act together to overturn this law.
00:12:05.440 It's like, well, maybe the act they want to get together is not killing children.
00:12:09.040 Maybe that's the act they're trying to accomplish.
00:12:11.500 I don't know.
00:12:11.860 Well, that came from 1864, though, and anything that comes from 1864 is bad, inherently.
00:12:15.520 Really, like laws like –
00:12:16.840 That's bad.
00:12:17.200 That are not –
00:12:18.040 You know, if you go back, there were laws against murder in 1864.
00:12:22.420 That's a bad law, then.
00:12:23.380 So all the laws now from 1864 we're just going to get rid of and see if we can repass?
00:12:27.640 Is that what we're doing now?
00:12:28.440 It's asinine.
00:12:29.360 It's asinine.
00:12:30.020 This is the law that was on the books.
00:12:31.560 And, like, you guys could have passed a law that killed all –
00:12:34.280 Yeah, kill all the children you want law. 1.00
00:12:36.340 That could have happened the entire time Roe v. Wade was in.
00:12:39.360 You didn't do it.
00:12:40.460 So you have the law that's on the books.
00:12:42.860 That's the way that this works.
00:12:45.280 It's just incredibly frustrating.
00:12:47.000 And, like, they just will get to this point where –
00:12:49.540 I mean, we saw this with Bill Maher.
00:12:50.740 Did you see this Bill Maher clip this week where he was talking about abortion?
00:12:55.480 Do we have it?
00:12:55.920 We have this?
00:12:56.440 Okay.
00:12:56.800 Play the Bill Maher clip.
00:12:58.020 The idea that you're fighting an election around this issue seems to be, you know, just strange back in the 19th century.
00:13:07.260 Life and death.
00:13:07.460 That's weird.
00:13:07.900 That's weird.
00:13:08.540 Well, not if you believe it's murder.
00:13:15.780 Thank you.
00:13:16.020 You know, that's why I don't understand the 15-week thing.
00:13:18.840 Or the – Trump's plan is let's leave it to the states.
00:13:22.420 You mean so killing babies is okay in some states?
00:13:25.400 I can respect the absolute position.
00:13:28.820 I really can.
00:13:29.440 I scold the left on when they say, oh, you know what?
00:13:33.420 They just hate women, people who aren't pro-life, pro-choice. 1.00
00:13:38.200 They just – they don't hate women. 0.89
00:13:39.900 They just made that up.
00:13:41.420 They think it's murder.
00:13:42.540 And it kind of is.
00:13:45.020 I'm just okay with that.
00:13:47.080 I am.
00:13:48.260 I mean, there's 8 billion people in the world.
00:13:51.000 I'm sorry.
00:13:51.560 We won't miss you.
00:13:53.080 That's my position on that.
00:13:54.900 Wow.
00:13:55.400 Even chilling to his audience.
00:13:56.760 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:58.160 Is that not your position if you're pro-choice?
00:14:00.480 Isn't that mainly because you don't like children?
00:14:02.320 I mean –
00:14:02.820 No, no.
00:14:03.940 I mean –
00:14:05.160 No, he's just being honest.
00:14:06.120 But if you are – you said you're pro-choice.
00:14:07.520 That's your position, too.
00:14:09.240 And he, by the way, nods to that, Piers Morgan.
00:14:11.020 He nods to that.
00:14:11.780 Yes, that is my position.
00:14:12.980 That's just admitting.
00:14:13.740 It's saying the quiet part out loud, right?
00:14:15.060 Right.
00:14:15.360 I'm okay with murder.
00:14:16.460 Yeah.
00:14:16.880 I'm okay with killing babies.
00:14:18.240 I think it's fascinating because comedians, like, their job is obviously to exaggerate and
00:14:21.960 be funny.
00:14:22.660 And that wasn't really even trying to be funny.
00:14:24.440 No.
00:14:25.180 Not at all.
00:14:25.780 But, like, comedians do this often where they cut – the other part of their job is cutting through
00:14:29.540 all the crap, right?
00:14:30.760 Like, pro-choice.
00:14:32.400 What does that actually mean?
00:14:34.280 And he's not the only comedian who's been doing this.
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00:14:39.860 When things go down in this world, a lot of time they go down very, very quickly.
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00:15:53.440 Now back to the podcast.
00:15:56.440 Maura Nomdar is with us.
00:15:59.000 She was in the Trump administration.
00:16:02.440 And Maura, I've been following you.
00:16:06.920 We've been looking at what should we be doing with Iran.
00:16:11.600 I feel like we've passed so many exits, and our government is only making things worse by cozying up to them.
00:16:21.440 What should be happening?
00:16:22.880 What should we be looking for, and what should we be hoping for?
00:16:26.840 Hi, Glenn.
00:16:28.380 It's a pleasure to be with you.
00:16:29.540 Thank you.
00:16:29.800 You're totally correct.
00:16:30.960 You're absolutely correct.
00:16:31.880 So what's happened now, all of the trouble that's happening in the region is a direct result of the head of the snake, as you very correctly said, which is Iran, right? 1.00
00:16:41.260 So this is happening because the Iranian regime is not only deeply unpopular with their own population.
00:16:47.080 They need to externalize conflict in order to stay in power.
00:16:50.680 People that are familiar with the policy of President Trump know that his policy was exactly, exactly the worst nightmare for the regime because he was using maximum pressure to cripple the regime by robbing them of the funds they use to spread terror at home and abroad, right?
00:17:06.020 So this regime, when you understand the history of it, that it came into power in a whirlwind in 1979, it's based on terror, and it's based on ruling through fear.
00:17:15.120 And they had to externalize conflict in order to keep hold.
00:17:18.380 So we would be remiss not to be students of history and actually understand that for this regime to maintain power, they have to externalize conflict, and they have to create manufactured crisis for people to rally around the flag.
00:17:30.580 It is a false enemy.
00:17:32.760 The highest population of Jewish people outside of Israel in the Middle East are in Iran.
00:17:36.260 There is no natural animosity between the Iranian people and the Israeli people or Jews in general.
00:17:42.740 This is a manufactured crisis by the Islamic regime and power in Iran, and it's one of many that they need to try to distract and keep hold of power. 0.97
00:17:51.660 You know, it's one of the only countries that I look at a lot like we should have looked at Russia when it was the Soviet Union, that the people were not the government at all.
00:18:03.800 And in fact, I think the United States is starting to be like that way now, that our government is doing things overseas and, you know, fighting wars and forcing people to live under our, you know, our, quote, values all over the world.
00:18:19.320 And we're getting a bad name around the world.
00:18:21.860 And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:18:23.360 But that's not us.
00:18:24.280 That's the government.
00:18:25.900 Same there.
00:18:27.060 And exactly the same as it was in the Soviet Union.
00:18:30.200 And that's different than most places.
00:18:32.460 That's different than, for instance, in Gaza, where most of the people are, you know, they really do believe that, you know, the Israelis need to be killed.
00:18:44.100 And America is the great Satan, et cetera, et cetera.
00:18:48.380 So in Iran, the population is vastly pro-American, right?
00:18:52.640 So you have a very pro-American population.
00:18:55.100 And if you recall, prior to 1979, things like the hijab or the mandatory hair scarf were not around.
00:19:01.680 So you have a population or, you know, an age group that's my age or younger that remembers, hey, their mom didn't have to do this.
00:19:08.760 You know, their ancestors didn't have to do this.
00:19:11.420 This is manufactured restrictions from this regime.
00:19:14.660 So you have a very pro-Western, pro-American population.
00:19:18.240 When the regime, you know, paints the American flag or the Israeli flag on the ground, the population will walk around it.
00:19:23.720 This is a population that under President Trump, you know, was chanting his name.
00:19:27.560 And people wrote Trump 2020 on IRGC basis.
00:19:30.580 This is a very brave population that is very pro-American, that believes in the values of America, believes in the dream of America, and, you know, wants to emulate that.
00:19:40.660 It's their regime that's counter to it.
00:19:42.480 So if we don't understand that and we don't capitalize that as Americans, we're remiss and we're going to keep making the same mistakes.
00:19:49.360 Why are we funding an anti-American regime through non-enforcement of sanctions, through, you know, these horrible hostage deals that you're just promoting the more taking of hostages?
00:19:58.980 And then wondering why the policy is a failure.
00:20:01.700 You know, had a working policy under President Trump and Joe Biden completely reversed that policy back to a failed Obama era JCPOA appeasement stature.
00:20:10.880 And then we're wondering why it's not working.
00:20:13.140 Well, let's have some strategic smart policy.
00:20:15.360 You support the will of the people and you put maximum pressure on the regime.
00:20:18.520 Support the people that love you and you put pressure on the people that hate you.
00:20:21.540 Okay, so what should, because as I look at Israel and, you know, their response, which they say is coming, but probably, you know, after Passover, I look at this and I think to myself, as an American, oh, no, please, I don't want another thing on fire.
00:20:39.320 But it's already on fire.
00:20:41.620 But if I were as an Israeli, I would be saying, hit them right now. 1.00
00:20:46.500 Hit them.
00:20:48.500 What should they do if you're from the Israeli perspective?
00:20:53.760 What should they do?
00:20:55.820 Yeah, so from the Israeli perspective, they're between a rock and a hard place, right?
00:20:59.180 It's impossible to fight on every single front.
00:21:01.560 And of course, you know, when you're attacked, any country has the right to have a response.
00:21:06.000 My point is, be strategic, because you cannot get into a war with Iran and expect a good result. 0.74
00:21:11.840 And you don't even want to do that, not just because the U.S., you know, is under a certain type of leadership that is probably not going to, you know, help you out to the degree that you'd want to be helped out.
00:21:22.700 But even beyond that, accepting the reality of the situation is, why would you want to make an enemy of the Iranian people who are already on your side and re-solidify the regime, right?
00:21:32.400 The regime, when it came into power in 79, was very unstable.
00:21:35.100 It was the Iran-Iraq war and Saddam's invasion that allowed them to have people rally around the flag and solidify themselves through a power grab. 0.89
00:21:43.140 Why would you repeat that mistake?
00:21:44.720 If you want the end result of a peaceful, stable, democratic potential ally in an Iran that you can get along with, well, great.
00:21:53.540 Let's take steps to make that happen.
00:21:56.340 You know, dropping bobs in an all-out war on a population in Iran is not the way to do it. 0.71
00:22:01.100 But wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:22:03.060 I don't think that's what they would even consider.
00:22:05.240 I hope not.
00:22:06.400 But I do think they would target strategic places that would hurt the administration and hurt their ability to build bombs.
00:22:15.700 Right.
00:22:16.120 I think a strategic response is, you know, totally within their calculus to decide on what they want to do and not do.
00:22:22.460 From my perspective, I think the less casualty or loss you have to innocent civilian lives, the better position you are.
00:22:29.380 Because the more that happens, as they've seen, the more of a PR nightmare it is for them and more of a nightmare it is on an international scale.
00:22:36.180 So they've got to be strategic.
00:22:37.780 They've got to be very, very careful about how they respond.
00:22:40.300 But, of course, everybody's entitled to respond whenever they're attacked.
00:22:43.360 So what are your thoughts about the long arm of Iran? 0.85
00:22:48.640 I mean, we're seeing people now on the streets, you know, death to America, death to Israel. 0.98
00:22:54.920 We're seeing things that we've not seen in our own streets.
00:22:59.040 And we're seeing a lot of it.
00:23:01.420 And I got to believe that when they're ready, they'll pull the trigger when they feel it's the right time.
00:23:08.880 They'll pull the trigger and we'll have really not good things happening here.
00:23:13.920 Again, another another Joe Biden policy failure, right, with his border crisis.
00:23:18.080 So this is the absurdity of Joe Biden's administration and, you know, the the failure of reversal of Trump's policies that we're working.
00:23:27.440 So this is a direct result of allowing an open border crisis and allowing anybody to come in without any vetting.
00:23:33.840 I mean, I'm the child of immigrants, right?
00:23:35.540 There's nobody, I think, that thinks that there shouldn't be any immigrants allowed in the United States.
00:23:39.720 But you have to know who's coming in, what their intentions are.
00:23:42.380 You have to have proper vetting.
00:23:43.840 And you can't allow this type of infiltration of our country of nefarious actors because the regime does have a long arm and they are sending people in.
00:23:52.860 And, you know, it's been publicized in the press when I worked in the prior administration.
00:23:56.540 They were trying to target administration officials back under President Trump, let alone what they're trying to do now.
00:24:01.700 So, you know, there's former officials I work with that have, you know, pretty heavy full time security.
00:24:06.880 There's journalists that work for, you know, VOA and other stations that had pretty serious attempts on their life.
00:24:14.160 So it's not a joke.
00:24:15.180 And, you know, allowing this sort of open loophole to come in through, you know, any border, any entry, no questions asked, is going to be exploited by nefarious actors like the regime.
00:24:26.840 And it's a crisis waiting to happen.
00:24:28.680 So do the does anybody in the State Department ever take the leadership's view of, you know, end of days and 12th, the mom and all of this crap?
00:24:44.520 You know, they'll look at somebody who is, you know, saying a prayer, you know, someplace in America in a Christian church.
00:24:51.020 They'll be like, that's a religious zealot.
00:24:52.760 They're going to tear the country apart.
00:24:54.540 And then they'll dismiss these people who say in speeches, oh, Allah, you know, give me the strength to hasten the return of the promised one, which is really terrifying.
00:25:07.980 Does anybody take this?
00:25:10.040 There's a big of cognitive dissonance here.
00:25:12.760 And it's, you know, when you have discussions with people that, you know, might be working in departments and have a different point of view, there is a tendency to sort of say, oh, well, that's not what they mean.
00:25:23.260 Or that's hyperbole.
00:25:25.060 Or, you know, they don't really mean death to America when they say it.
00:25:28.240 Yeah, they do.
00:25:28.580 It's the sort of waving off that is just an unserious position to take.
00:25:33.380 And there's, I mean, it's not a secret that there's a lot of Iranian regime, pro-regime lobbyists in this country who purposely push this narrative and purposely provide false information to try to sort of wave off the crazy statements that are made and the really, you know, damaging statements that are made.
00:25:49.700 And sort of say, oh, that's just hyperbole.
00:25:51.860 That's just, you know, lost in translation.
00:25:53.540 But it's really not.
00:25:54.720 You know, I mean, the actions speak louder than words.
00:25:56.420 And when the actions follow those words, you have to take them seriously.
00:25:59.640 You can't just say, oh, it's a fluke a hundred times over.
00:26:02.520 No, they mean what they say.
00:26:04.060 It's really terrifying when you look at the history of Hamas and the grand mufti, you know, from the 1920s and 30s that was a huge Hitler supporter.
00:26:17.960 And and what those seeds that were planted and then in the new Islamic Republic, the leadership there, they mean it when they say, you know, we'll kill the Jews and, you know, Israel will burn in the the flames of the Islamic fury. 0.77
00:26:36.020 They mean that they mean that.
00:26:38.420 Do they are?
00:26:39.940 I think they I think that the regime knows exactly what they're doing to rattle everyone around them.
00:26:46.940 And I think if given an opportunity to externalize a conflict, they'll do it.
00:26:51.060 Right.
00:26:51.340 So these are these are not irrational actors.
00:26:53.640 These are rational actors who have a strategic point of view and believe what they believe.
00:26:58.720 They use the foundations of, you know, whatever faith or political realities are necessary to achieve a political end.
00:27:05.860 Right.
00:27:06.140 So these people are not, you know, saying things that they don't mean.
00:27:12.380 They mean them and they want to be strategic to maintain control of power and maintain control of a population that is not supported by them.
00:27:20.760 Right.
00:27:20.980 They're deeply, deeply unpopular with their own population, let alone externally.
00:27:25.520 But they they have to create a boogeyman.
00:27:27.420 And they have to create this externalized conflict to sort of distract from the plethora of problems they have at home.
00:27:32.900 So, you know, you've got to take them to a certain degree at face value, but also understand that there are political and strategic and real goals at the end of, you know, the pretty crazy statements.
00:27:42.340 You know, there's there doesn't seem to be any love of the Palestinian movement from the neighbors of Israel.
00:27:53.360 They they close their borders.
00:27:54.840 They don't want them.
00:27:56.280 And it seems to be the same thing with the administration of Iran.
00:28:02.160 But the Middle Eastern countries, I think, like the conflict with the with the Palestinians.
00:28:10.140 I don't know what it serves, but they they seem to like it and they don't like Iran, but they seem to pussyfoot around all of the advances that Trump made in pulling that coalition together.
00:28:23.480 Egypt and and and Saudi Arabia and really building a coalition with Israel to stand against Iran.
00:28:33.220 Have we just blown that?
00:28:35.920 Yeah, pretty much.
00:28:36.980 I mean, I can give you a nicer answer, but I mean, in a lot of ways, there's been a lot of damage done to a lot of the coalition building.
00:28:44.020 I mean, the Abraham Accords were wildly successful. 0.87
00:28:46.700 That was a great President Trump initiative.
00:28:48.320 And frankly, I mean, talk about the Nobel Peace Prizes in some years have been handed out willy nilly.
00:28:53.720 President Trump should have gotten a Nobel Peace Prize for that.
00:28:55.840 Right. So that was groundbreaking for Middle East peace is to have the Abraham Accords. 0.52
00:28:59.540 And frankly, we're sitting in a position now where a lot of that work has been unwound and has been backtracked.
00:29:05.440 And again, the United States needs to be a stable, reliable ally and a stable, reliable foe, an adversary for those that that challenge us.
00:29:13.380 You can't have this flip flop of foreign policy from administration to administration and expect to have the credibility that we once did in the world.
00:29:21.900 Right. So there has to be, you know, some sort of adults in the room, which, you know, the Biden administration claimed to be, but clearly are not.
00:29:30.220 And, you know, understanding that, hey, maybe we have policy differences with with our predecessor.
00:29:34.680 But these policies worked and these politics are these policies were strategic and effective.
00:29:38.600 And perhaps we shouldn't unwind them just for the sake of, you know, pacifying a base in the U.S.
00:29:44.180 and saying we undid everything he did, you know, have some some clear eyes and say that, hey, the Abraham Accords were a good thing.
00:29:49.960 Stability in the Middle East and no new wars was a good thing. 0.94
00:29:52.460 So let's keep that going.
00:29:54.540 Thank you so much for all that you do and making the Middle East a little easier to understand.
00:30:00.540 You're welcome. Happy to.
00:30:01.740 God bless.
00:30:02.320 Happy to.
00:30:02.820 You bet.
00:30:03.220 Thank you. God bless.
00:30:03.760 Maura Nomdar, she is or dare.
00:30:07.520 She is the former assistant secretary of state for consular affairs under Donald Trump and a senior fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council.
00:30:18.600 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:30:21.960 We have Bill Cloud back on.
00:30:23.600 He is the founder of Jacob's Tent Fellowship, also Shorsham Ministries.
00:30:28.700 And and he's probably he's taught biblical prophecy for a long time.
00:30:35.200 And what I like about him, he's not like, we're all going to die.
00:30:38.340 It's coming tomorrow.
00:30:39.740 He takes a very tempered look at everything and just can give you the facts that we know.
00:30:47.340 But we don't know if those are the facts that, you know, God was telling us to look for.
00:30:53.540 Is that a good explanation, Bill?
00:30:56.460 Well, I do try to be tempered.
00:31:00.380 I mean, I try to keep all of my theology in this solar system.
00:31:04.940 So, you know, so I try to be that way.
00:31:07.840 And, you know, and you said yesterday that sometimes, you know, what we think is going we're looking for is not necessarily going to happen the way we think it's going to happen.
00:31:18.860 Can you give me an example of that?
00:31:20.300 Well, yeah.
00:31:22.080 In Matthew, chapter 17, Messiah goes up to the top of a mountain, Peter, James and John.
00:31:27.500 He's transfigured.
00:31:28.780 His face is shining like the light.
00:31:31.660 The disciples see this and they're coming back down the mountain and they're puzzled because they ask him, hey, we thought that the well, the prophecy teachers of the day told us that Elijah would come first.
00:31:41.720 But you're already here.
00:31:43.420 You're obviously the Messiah.
00:31:44.660 So how come Elijah didn't come first?
00:31:46.700 And he said, well, Elijah did.
00:31:48.140 You just missed it because you were looking for that Elijah.
00:31:51.440 But you missed the whole message that John the Baptist was giving and the spirit and the power of Elijah.
00:31:55.560 So that's a very quick example of we can be looking for this.
00:31:59.980 It's got to look like that.
00:32:01.240 It's got to be in this size and everything else.
00:32:03.760 And the whole time God's doing exactly what he would said, just not in the way that we were looking for.
00:32:08.740 So, as I said yesterday, it's very important that as we read these prophecies, you know, we interpret them.
00:32:15.920 We think they're going to happen this way based on what we see going on in the world today.
00:32:21.360 But sometimes and maybe even a lot of times it doesn't happen the way we think.
00:32:26.620 It just happens exactly the way God said.
00:32:28.980 And it's usually after it's happened that we can look and say, oh, OK, yeah, I see it now.
00:32:34.600 So that's an example.
00:32:35.980 And that is very important, I believe, in going forward.
00:32:39.780 And, you know, when we see all these things happening in the world.
00:32:42.840 So I often have thought if you were alive during Hitler's reign, especially if you were, you know, had a front row seat to it, you had to have thought Jesus is coming soon. 0.91
00:32:55.320 But there were a lot of things that had not been accomplished.
00:32:59.180 For instance, the reestablishment of Israel and then the gathering of Israel.
00:33:04.240 And so, you know, if you knew your scriptures, you would go, well, no, I don't think so.
00:33:10.220 But it could happen quickly.
00:33:12.900 But now a lot of really big things have happened.
00:33:18.040 What big prophecies have been fulfilled and what is still out there that we should be watching for?
00:33:25.120 Well, you mentioned the reestablishment of the nation of Israel in 48, the capturing of the old city and the reunification of Jerusalem in 67, which at that point gave Jews access to the Temple Mount, although temporarily.
00:33:40.860 So the regathering of Israel is a big one. 0.62
00:33:44.800 And I might say that that one is still ongoing.
00:33:47.020 Yes.
00:33:47.300 And it has not yet come to its ultimate fruition.
00:33:51.660 And what does that mean?
00:33:52.420 What does it mean, the gathering of or regathering of Israel?
00:33:55.700 What does that mean exactly?
00:33:56.720 Well, very long story short, because of transgression, because of rebellion, because of all these different sins, Israel was exiled.
00:34:06.680 And to this day, a lot of Israel is still scattered through the nations.
00:34:10.600 And so there are these multiple prophecies of how in the last days God will gather all of Israel into the land to the point, and this is the way Jeremiah puts it, that they will no longer talk about the exodus out of Egypt, but they'll talk about the exodus from all these different nations.
00:34:27.540 And because we aren't talking in those terms just yet, that tells me it has not yet come to its ultimate fulfillment.
00:34:34.140 Because we're going to talk about in just a couple of days how God brought his people out of Egypt.
00:34:38.700 So it's an ongoing thing.
00:34:40.600 But that's a really big one.
00:34:42.940 But, you know, there are other things that are happening right now.
00:34:46.300 I think the Gazan War is something that is very significant because there are prophecies about Gaza, about the land of the Philistines.
00:34:56.440 I think this war has the potential.
00:34:59.200 I'm not going to make the prediction, but it has the potential to lead into other things.
00:35:03.240 The attack the other night by Iran was said to be at least, you know, affiliated with, you know, what's going on in Gaza and these kinds of things.
00:35:13.740 So there are things going on right now that do set the stage potentially for some things to happen.
00:35:21.260 And that makes our day a little different right now.
00:35:27.420 What you're saying that Gaza could turn into, what are you referring to?
00:35:33.620 Well, again, there are different prophecies about Gaza, how it's going to be, you know, destroyed, basically.
00:35:44.720 But here is the thing that jumps out at me.
00:35:47.720 It's the fact that Hamas has played such a big role. 0.98
00:35:51.060 So the Bible names Hamas by name.
00:35:55.020 There are prophecies against Edom and Esau, and it says, because of the Hamas that you've committed against your brother Jacob, which is translated violence, I'm going to deal with you. 0.91
00:36:04.920 And Obadiah, it says, because you committed Hamas against your brother Jacob, I'm going to deal with you. 0.72
00:36:11.820 In Genesis, before the days of Noah leading up to the flood, it says that Hamas filled the earth.
00:36:17.100 So I do not believe that that is just some cosmic coincidence.
00:36:21.080 That's God way before any of this, you know, we were even thought of.
00:36:25.920 God's already telling us things in the beginning to be on the lookout in the end.
00:36:29.660 So the fact that Hamas has been the instigator, the primary instigator, as it relates to what's going on in the Gaza war right now, to me, is something that's very, very important. 1.00
00:36:40.820 And that means that it has the potential to expand into other things, other prophecies.
00:36:45.520 They talk about the destruction of Damascus and it leading all the way up to, you know, what a lot of people are looking for, the War of Gog and Magog.
00:36:54.740 So all that is on the table as a possibility.
00:36:57.420 Is it going to happen right now?
00:36:59.260 Again, I don't know.
00:37:01.000 There are things that are happening that could lead to these more dramatic events.
00:37:08.740 So anyway, that's what I mean by the Gazan thing.
00:37:12.600 The destruction in Syria, Damascus, could happen overnight.
00:37:17.840 The return of the Jews to Israel, you would think that would be almost impossible.
00:37:25.020 But, you know, one of the things I've been thinking lately, you know, disconnected from, you know, end time stuff is if I were a Jew today and I saw the whole world starting to heat up like this, there would come a time when I'd be like, you know, I'm going to just I'm going to Israel because I at least going to stand with my own people because it's the only place where I may not be persecuted, you know, without a shot of standing up.
00:37:49.260 Well, and I think that this is going to sound maybe a little bizarre, but God's way is to put pressure on people to move them into the place that he wants them to be.
00:38:03.800 I mean, that's just a plain, simple fact.
00:38:05.520 So I don't I don't discount that at all.
00:38:08.760 I think that as you know, these things begin to unfold, it's going to become increasingly unpopular in the world to be Jewish, to be associated with Israel, to stand with Israel.
00:38:19.660 But at the same time, you know, God uses that pressure to kind of put people in the position that he wants them to be to kind of force his will.
00:38:27.860 And it's always going to be for the best interests of his people, but it doesn't feel very good at the time when you're being subjected to all that pressure.
00:38:36.980 Do Iran and Russia and their alliance play a role in prophecy?
00:38:42.460 Well, a lot of people think so.
00:38:44.040 I'm one of those.
00:38:45.500 And based primarily in what you're reading, Ezekiel 38 and 9, this is the war I mentioned briefly a moment ago, the war of Gog and Magog, right?
00:38:53.280 So and so if you think if you read the prophecy, we don't have time to do that today.
00:38:59.180 But if you think that Russia is the land of Magog, then I'd say yes. 1.00
00:39:02.860 In fact, that prophecy talks about how this chief prince, this this ruler over the land of Magog is going to come from the far north.
00:39:12.520 Well, if you start in Israel and go north, if you go to the far north, you're in Russia.
00:39:16.820 So it seems like that Russia would be involved.
00:39:20.460 And of course, the old Soviet Union was never a friend to Israel.
00:39:24.560 It was always aligned with Israel's enemies. 0.84
00:39:27.400 If I were Netanyahu, I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I can spit.
00:39:30.900 So, you know, Russia is, you know, not a good guy in this regard.
00:39:34.760 And then when you read that prophecy, Ezekiel 38 and 9, you'll see that among the Confederates, the first one is mentioned is Persia, which is, of course, the ancient name for Iran.
00:39:45.620 And just as kind of a sidebar here, interesting to me, anyway, the name Iran or the modern name Iran is derived from the word Arian.
00:39:55.840 Maybe that should tell you something.
00:39:58.000 Yeah, I've always thought so.
00:40:00.840 Before we get into the Ark of the Covenant, which I just find fascinating, you said that we need to watch out for Esau.
00:40:10.620 Who's Esau in the Bible and in modern times?
00:40:15.840 Well, Esau, of course, was the older brother of Jacob.
00:40:20.060 He's all red and hairy, and he's impulsive, and he's a hunter, and all these kinds of things.
00:40:25.380 And he has no regard for the birthright.
00:40:27.700 He has no regard for the covenant that God made with Abraham.
00:40:30.420 Jacob is the more temperate one.
00:40:32.160 He values these things that are eternal.
00:40:34.220 So when Jacob obtained the blessing of his father Isaac, Esau vowed to kill him.
00:40:40.520 So as you read ahead in the prophecy, you will see that even though the man Esau died, God still addresses Esau, also known as Edom.
00:40:50.420 You know, centuries later, because of your hatred towards your brother, because of the hamas you commit towards your brother, 0.61
00:40:56.960 I'm going to deal with you in the end.
00:41:00.500 And so to me, today, Esau is epitomized in those people like Hamas, like Hezbollah. 0.90
00:41:09.840 They have this ancient hatred, and that's the way it's termed in Ezekiel chapter 35.
00:41:15.080 And I would even include, Glenn, in that mix, all of these people that are getting on the Golden Gate Bridge
00:41:22.520 and stopping traffic and doing all these protests and standing outside New York University last night
00:41:28.220 and, you know, chanting death to America in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:41:32.520 I would include that in the people that are identified as Esau from a biblical point of view,
00:41:37.920 not so much because they're descended from the man.
00:41:40.120 No, but because of their ancient mindset.
00:41:42.380 Their hatred, their unreasonable hatred.
00:41:44.780 Na, na, na, na, na.