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00:00:00.000 Hey, on today's podcast, Kamala again, hems and haws her way through an interview, 0.69

00:00:05.040 almost like she didn't get coached up for a week leading into it. But Nicole Shanahan is also

00:00:10.100 joining the program. She admits something that you might not hear many Democrats admit about

00:00:14.460 the 2020 election. It was shocking to me. Also, Zev Orenstein, he is with us. He has a huge

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00:02:01.360 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're

00:02:07.540 really glad that you're here. I want to remind you of something that I think is really important.

00:02:13.160 Rescue the Republic. Join the Resistance. It is happening in Washington, D.C. on 9-29.

00:02:22.280 It's Sunday, I believe, the 29th of September, so it's coming up not this weekend but next. It's in

00:02:29.420 Washington, D.C. I mean, the lineup is amazing. This is going to be outdoors. They just asked you to show

00:02:36.540 up outdoors right by the Washington Memorial in Washington, D.C. It's put on by a whole bunch of

00:02:45.560 people but Brett Weinstein is heading this. Robert Kennedy is going to be there. Russell Brand will

00:02:51.220 be there. Jordan Peterson will be there. Tulsi Gabbard, Charlie Kirk, Matt Taibbi. Gosh, just everybody.

00:02:59.200 Dr. Robert Malone is going to be there. They've got comedians that will be there. They've got

00:03:05.460 musicians. It's really, really a big deal. Now, what this is is a group of people that are

00:03:13.760 not necessarily cut from exactly the same cloth that you are but they believe many of the same

00:03:21.700 things in principles, not necessarily in policies but that's where we have to unite and they are

00:03:29.300 they're taking it all on. They're taking on the military industrial complex, the medical industrial

00:03:34.360 complex, censorship industrial complex, immigration industrial complex. Notice that all of this stuff

00:03:40.820 is an industrial complex which it is. All of this stuff is. It's a cabal or as Roseanne Barr would say

00:03:49.400 it's a mafia. The financial industrial complex, the developmental complex, academic industrial

00:03:58.980 complex, which is one of the ones that was mentioned and everybody seems to fail to remember

00:04:04.460 by Eisenhower. War is the last hope. I mean, sorry. War is the last resort. Sanctify, recodify informed

00:04:14.380 consent with medicine, banish the state media control, surveillance and propaganda, enact a rational

00:04:22.180 border policy, end lawfare and abuse of the judicial system, secure monetary freedom, restore family

00:04:30.200 sovereignty and return to truth-seeking and open dialogue in our schools. I'm for every single one of

00:04:37.540 those pillars. There are the eight pillars. My guess is, because I've just done this with somebody else and I

00:04:44.960 witnessed it myself under Obama, the three-letter agencies are talking about, at the last minute, they're

00:04:52.300 talking about, you've got to have this, you have to have this, you have to have more security, you have to blah,

00:04:56.440 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I would, I don't know that, but I'm guessing. And they have a give, send, go.

00:05:04.180 So, if you would like to help defray some of those costs, most likely they are security costs. And, well,

00:05:12.460 I'll just leave it at that. You can go to rescuetherepublic.org. I'm sorry, jointheresistance.org,

00:05:21.940 jointheresistance.org forward slash, what is it? What is it? Donate? Donate. Yeah. Okay.

00:05:30.200 Jointheresistance.org forward slash donate. You know, I love the fact that all of these people

00:05:36.760 are standing up and they are trying to wake their neighbors up and say, look, guys, we have to go

00:05:43.660 back to principles. And you may not like this guy, but the other side, you've got to take a look at the

00:05:51.040 other side. And, you know, they gave us a glimpse of the other side again yesterday. Kamala has given

00:05:59.240 another interview, should have been with a very friendly audience, the NABJ, that's the National

00:06:07.580 Association of Black Journalists. This is the one where one of, I think it's another one of her,

00:06:15.020 you know, Greek fraternity sisters or sorority sisters was interviewing Donald Trump. And she

00:06:23.080 started with that nasty question, not even a hello, just why is it? It should have been very

00:06:30.680 friendly for Kamala, but she didn't do well. Let's take cut five, start there. 1.00

00:06:36.900 Is the price of groceries still too high? Yes. Do we have more work to do? Yes. And I will tell

00:06:45.660 you, I do believe that I offer a new generation of leadership for our country. That is about,

00:06:53.720 in particular, turning the page on an era that sadly has shown us attempts by some to incite fear to

00:07:03.960 create division in our country. The assassins? What is it? The assassins that you're talking

00:07:08.080 about? Are they the ones that are? What page are we turning from where? What are we turning it from,

00:07:14.820 Glenn? Maybe in our economics book? I'm not really sure. The question was about inflation. What are

00:07:20.540 your plans to reduce inflation and get the economy going? At least she didn't say, well, you know,

00:07:27.100 Tim Walls and I are from a middle-class family. I'm sick of that. They answer that. That's three

00:07:33.620 times I've heard her answer that question about inflation with, you know, we're from a middle

00:07:38.840 class. Well, that's great. You're from a middle-class family. What does that do? What does that

00:07:43.680 mean? What does that mean? Hey, someday, if you're in middle class, you could grow up and lie to the

00:07:48.520 American people and try to become president. That has nothing to do with the price of milk and the 0.79

00:07:56.220 price of meat. Sorry. Cut six. Now she's asked again about the economy. Listen. What is your

00:08:04.340 message to young black male voters who feel left out of this economy? And how can your economic

00:08:09.620 policies materially change their lives? So I appreciate the spirit of the question,

00:08:15.380 but I'll tell you, I've often been asked this question in a way that I've had to respond by first

00:08:20.520 saying that I think it's very important to not, um, operate from the assumption that black men are

00:08:30.600 in anybody's pocket. Black men are like any other voting group. You got to earn their vote.

00:08:38.580 Do you really think that? Okay. So earn it. I'm working to earn the vote, not assuming I'm going to have

00:08:43.840 it because I am black, but because the policies and the perspectives I have understands what we must

00:08:52.200 do to recognize the needs of all communities. Okay. So what are you going to do? She doesn't answer

00:08:57.880 the question. She never answers the question. I mean, doesn't that, it doesn't that tell you

00:09:05.460 something? If you're a Democrat, doesn't that tell you something? Why won't they ever answer a question?

00:09:11.800 My gosh, I just have to play this real quick. Uh, this is CBS. This is CBS in Nevada. They went to

00:09:22.220 several restaurants to talk to supporters of Harris and to Trump. Listen, listen to this cut eight.

00:09:29.280 We had so much fun, but what was really incredible is in every single restaurant of the people willing

00:09:34.880 to talk to us, we could only find one Harris supporter in every restaurant. And we left no stone

00:09:40.700 unturned. I approached every single person. I only found one person. I mean, I think that's probably

00:09:50.440 more accurate on what's going on. You don't think so, Stu? I mean, too pessimistic as a human being.

00:09:57.280 I'm an Eagles fan. I just assume everything's going to go wrong. So no, I don't think that's

00:10:02.000 happening. I know. I know. But I mean, I, you listen to her interviews and it's hard not to

00:10:06.700 get the impression that no human being would ever vote for her. She's the, the interview she did last

00:10:13.380 week with the local ABC station. Yeah. Because I mean, they asked also about the opportunity economy

00:10:18.400 there. And I will say, I think her, I think her answer here may have been even worse than the one

00:10:22.800 at the NABJ. Listen to this. At the debate the other night, you talked about creating an

00:10:29.240 opportunity economy. Yeah. What does that mean? I wonder if we can drill down on that a little

00:10:32.380 bit. When we talk about bringing down prices and making life more affordable for people,

00:10:38.280 what are one or two specific things you have in mind for that? Specific. Well, I'll start with this.

00:10:43.680 Okay. I grew up a middle-class kid. What? My mother raised my sister and me. She worked very hard.

00:10:49.260 That's a policy? She was able to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when I was 1.00

00:10:55.340 a teenager. Oh, that's great. I grew up in a community of hardworking people. You know,

00:11:00.400 construction workers and nurses and teachers. Okay. All right. Nurses is the proposal? I try to

00:11:04.700 explain to some people who may not have had the same experience, you know, if, but a lot of people

00:11:10.020 will relate to this. Okay. You know, I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of

00:11:14.320 their lawn. The lawn. You know? The lawn. The lawn is your own. I don't know. Your proposals are lawns

00:11:20.400 for all? And I was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. Dignity. Okay. Lawn

00:11:26.820 dignity? And that we as Americans have a beautiful character. Character. You know, we have

00:11:33.840 What the hell is she even talking about? Nothing is happening here. But not everyone necessarily

00:11:38.540 has access to the resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambitions. Fertilizer? Are we still

00:11:44.400 on lawns? I'm confused. So when I talk about building an opportunity economy, it is very much with the

00:11:51.060 mind of investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work ethic of the American

00:11:57.780 people. So the ambitions of the policy. It's creating opportunity for people, for example, to start a small

00:12:01.800 business. Okay. Oh, wait. Are we coming to a policy? You know, worked long hours and our neighbor helped

00:12:07.400 raise us. Don't say aspirations again, please. I still call her our second mother. She was a small

00:12:12.100 business owner. Okay, there we go. I love our small business owners. I mean, where is it? Oh, that's

00:12:16.140 great. You got that policy? What the hell was that? It's aspirations for lawns. That's the policy.

00:12:21.740 And she's going to implement that. I mean, can we just take, hang on just a sec. Let's take this

00:12:24.880 seriously. What the hell did she mean about the, you know, I grew up in a neighborhood where everybody was

00:12:29.660 proud of their lawns. You know what I mean? I really, unfortunately don't know what, I mean,

00:12:35.040 I know people who are proud of their lawns. I just don't know how it applies to any of this. Like

00:12:39.580 there are people who used to really care about their lawns and go out there and fertilize it and

00:12:43.500 curate it and do all that stuff. They still do. Yeah. But I don't, I don't remember as a kid

00:12:47.480 thinking, oh gosh, well, I mean, that's the economy. The goal is, is the lawn. And her, and her, 0.78

00:12:54.140 and her idea of, you know, that's why we're going to invest in people's dreams.

00:12:59.900 No. With what money are you going to invest with? More tax dollars or more printed phony money,

00:13:08.120 which will only drive inflation up. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's crazy how they just,

00:13:15.300 nobody seems to demand an answer. They're just okay with, you know, it's just joyful.

00:13:21.080 Yeah. Well, it's definitely joyful aspirations there, Glenn. But I mean, she's talking about

00:13:25.360 taking money from taking dreams from some and trying to redistribute them to others. Right.

00:13:31.920 Like that's not right. Um, we also have it from this small businessman and let me give it to

00:13:37.340 somebody who wants to start a small business. Well, wait a minute. Hold on.

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00:15:22.640 Nicole Shanahan is joining us. How are you, Nicole?

00:15:25.460 I'm doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me back on. How are you?

00:15:29.680 You I'm very good. I'm very good. You know, um, a few months ago when, uh, RFK was running,

00:15:37.300 uh, and you joined, I thought, well, there goes the conservative vote. Um, anybody, uh, you know,

00:15:46.360 anybody was watching it because you are Oakland, California, you, uh, are much more liberal,

00:15:53.460 um, uh, or progressive. And now I'm reevaluating everything again, because there are people that

00:16:03.340 are on the left, uh, not left that are, well, lean left, um, that are, have different points of view,

00:16:11.660 but still love the country. And we don't see those people very often in, in the, uh, in the news,

00:16:18.800 you know, and those people we can get along with all day long. If you love the bill of rights,

00:16:25.100 I'm with you. I'm with you. Yep. Yep. There's a huge population out there and they don't know where

00:16:32.180 to go right now. A lot of them were attracted to our campaign and our campaign was really a place

00:16:39.560 to go. If you were kind of socially, um, progressive or liberal, but intellectually educated

00:16:47.640 and saw what was happening with the democratic party and just none of it reconciled. I mean,

00:16:54.600 if you look at the democratic party over the last eight years, you can't reconcile their relationship

00:17:00.160 with the economy. It doesn't make any sense. So if you're a business person went to an, a top

00:17:08.420 educational, um, institution came out, got a job, spent, uh, you know, 20 years of your career in

00:17:17.920 front of spreadsheets and you're seeing what's going on under democratic leadership, even in the state of

00:17:23.060 California, it does not reconcile. Um, and so a lot of these folks and lawyers too have nowhere to go

00:17:31.900 right now. And, um, it's been really interesting for me just in my personal experience. I'm an

00:17:38.180 attorney. I came out of Oakland, but I worked hard and, you know, I did, I did rely on the government's,

00:17:45.620 uh, safety net to catch me. I was on government assistance at times as a child, but it was,

00:17:51.560 it was never a place to stay. The goal was always to work your way out of that. And those were the,

00:17:57.500 the foundations of the ethics I grew up on. That's right. Those are the ethics. Those are the ethics

00:18:03.380 that I grew up on too. You know, I learned about welfare from my father. There was a, he owned a

00:18:08.540 bakery and a woman came in, uh, and I was little and she used, uh, a welfare stamp, uh, to pay. And I

00:18:19.340 had never seen one before. And, uh, I said, dad, that's not real money. And he gave me the look of

00:18:25.420 death. Um, this little old lady was buying stuff and he pulled me back after she left. He said,

00:18:31.280 don't ever say that ever, ever again. That woman is struggling. That's what we do. That's what a

00:18:38.220 government safety net is for, for people who need it like her. Don't ever embarrass her again. And I'm

00:18:44.480 like, I didn't, sorry, dad. Then later about, I don't know, six, eight months later, my dad happened

00:18:50.340 to come up front and it was a guy who had food stamps and he paid. And my father was pretty nasty

00:18:56.940 to the guy. I mean, he was very cold. And I, I asked him, I'm like, what? That guy gave you the

00:19:03.760 same kind of money. And he said, that man, I know that man can work. He decides to live off the rest

00:19:12.380 of us. That's where it goes wrong. And I think all of us kind of grew up with that. I mean, most of us.

00:19:20.540 Yeah. It will, except for young people today. And I think that's where the left is cannibalizing 0.66

00:19:27.220 the best of itself. Um, and I say cannibalizing because it's actually working against its own

00:19:34.220 interests for compassion and social growth. Um, and, and, you know, trying to figure out how to

00:19:41.580 help people get through difficult times. I think that how it's cannibalizing itself really exists

00:19:49.720 in the identity politics. I know you talk a lot about that, but I experienced it as a philanthropist

00:19:56.940 trying to go back to Oakland and, and trying to really work on the issues that matter and identifying

00:20:03.180 them with just a strict logical process. I, I looked at the issues around homelessness, around

00:20:11.600 drug abuse, um, around the education gap. And I realized so much of it has to do with nutrition

00:20:18.020 and health. And so I went about trying to fix that. And, and I will tell you of all of the NGOs I was

00:20:26.440 approached by and worked with, none were interested in, in real food. Um, a lot of them were interested

00:20:34.940 in activism and funneling millions of dollars into these regrant programs, um, that don't actually

00:20:42.960 help people and make them reliant on these nonprofit dollars. Um, and so the mechanics of social

00:20:51.260 mobility, um, and you can look at it strictly through, um, you know, the lens of economics,

00:20:59.100 you can look at it through social dynamics. Um, and you come out realizing that you have to invest

00:21:06.780 in, in schools and education, clean water is a huge one, but also food, um, kids underperform when

00:21:14.400 they don't eat well. And the fact that they're not addressing this on the left, that there's no NGOs

00:21:19.340 that are sincerely working on this makes, made me realize that, um, that entire framework, the

00:21:26.840 culture of that, that thinking about poor versus wealthy or black versus white was all wrong.

00:21:35.620 It's just the wrong way of looking at it. And, and then realizing how many people are profiting off of

00:21:41.580 that, um, uh, model of the world, that framework of the world, it's, it's very predatory. It's predatory

00:21:48.660 people. Yeah, it's grotesque. It's predatory. It's, it's, it actually feeds into the cycle of racism.

00:21:56.320 Um, and it doesn't work and things have gotten actually worse as these NGOs, um, have just kind

00:22:03.060 of gotten away with this bad behavior. So Nicole, what, what moved you to say, I think I've got to go

00:22:13.340 stand with Donald Trump. I mean, that had to shock you when you thought that what moved you there?

00:22:22.700 Well, I, you know, I, there were so many things that have led to it, but I will say that when I

00:22:31.180 left the democratic party, there were threats kind of lobbed my direction, but they were, they, they kind

00:22:37.680 of seem like silly threats like, Oh, you'll never make it. Um, well, you know, they're going to do

00:22:43.840 everything to ruin your reputation. Um, the machine's going to be pointed at you. And I don't

00:22:51.180 think you realize what we have in this machine. And I was like, ah, I can overcome that. That's all

00:22:57.240 silliness. And, and, and then, you know, and then the media. So first they unleashed the media on you.

00:23:05.080 And I was like, ah, you know, so many of these things can be disproven lost a lot of respect for

00:23:10.780 the media, but I had already lost quite a bit of respect for them, um, prior. And you can kind of

00:23:17.920 get over all that name calling. And once people get a chance to know you, they realize, um, that the,

00:23:24.160 the media really had so much of you wrong, but, but then, you know, then came the, um, attack on

00:23:31.620 our campaign directly. And it all came from the left. None of it came from the right. And even

00:23:38.200 though, um, Republicans have actually out, um, earned or outraised the Democrats, the Republicans

00:23:45.400 don't spend their money attacking their opponents the way the Democrats do. And this is some really

00:23:52.340 underhanded stuff that really makes you question election integrity, um, in ways that I had actually

00:23:58.780 never questioned election integrity. I didn't believe, um, that, you know, there was election

00:24:04.980 interference in 2020. Um, I didn't believe the narrative coming from the right that the election

00:24:11.080 was stolen. Um, and so, you know, I do now, I do do now. I do now. I do now. What brought you there?

00:24:23.080 You know, lived experience. They say the two things that really get people to change their

00:24:30.160 minds are grief and God. And, um, I, I have to say there was some really heartbreaking moments,

00:24:38.180 uh, during this campaign. We gave it everything and we followed the black letter law, um, very

00:24:45.920 precisely. And, and we did every, I mean, the amount of heart and soul and tears and running around.

00:24:52.780 I mean, people were just constantly sweaty on our campaign because everyone wore six different hats

00:24:59.020 and, um, you know, they would be crossing the country four times, uh, every few days. I mean,

00:25:05.460 it was, it was so much work and we did, we succeeded in what many people thought was impossible,

00:25:11.560 which was even just getting on all the ballots, all 50 ballots. And we did. And the day that we did

00:25:17.680 that same, um, just within a few hours, we found out that, uh, New York and they had been suing us.

00:25:24.900 We, we had won seven cases, seven of these ballot cases where the democratic party came in

00:25:30.660 or their line packs and sued us, uh, attempted to sue us to get us, uh, removed from the ballots,

00:25:36.640 which I can't believe is even legal that a political opponent can sue you to take you off the ballot,

00:25:43.040 but, but it's apparently common practice for the Democrats. And, and Republicans don't do this.

00:25:49.780 Remember Republicans just don't do that because they respect third parties. They respect democracy.

00:25:55.420 They respect the things that make democracy, democracy. So anyway, so we won all seven. We're

00:26:01.440 seven and oh, we were feeling good. We just did this big press event and, and then New York came along

00:26:07.180 and new, the case in New York really opened my eyes because this was a judge that was not acting

00:26:16.000 on behalf of the American public. This was a judge acting on behalf of the democratic party. And, um,

00:26:22.560 there was, there was just no room for a legal argument. Uh, the decision seemed to already had

00:26:29.120 have been made by the time we arrived, they treated Bobby like a petty criminal. Um, I later

00:26:36.940 testified, my experience testifying felt just got awful. Like I had done something wrong by trying to

00:26:43.120 run as a third party in this country. And, and I think through this process and then realizing the

00:26:49.820 extent of how much they're willing to denigrate the democratic process, um, in this country to win

00:26:57.980 and how, how, how entitled they feel doing so. Um, and you know, Bobby and I are, our, our personalities

00:27:05.580 are, are very much aligned with that California liberal mentality. And, and so to, to be treated by

00:27:13.980 friends, colleagues, people that know you like this, um, made me realize that that something was very,

00:27:21.440 very wrong. Um, and so I will say Trump. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast.

00:27:29.120 Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts.

00:27:35.520 Excited to, uh, to talk to Zev Orenstein. He is the city of David foundation director of, uh,

00:27:43.200 international affairs. Uh, and, uh, he's with us to talk a little bit about some of the things that

00:27:49.520 are being discovered now in archeology. Zev, so good to have you on.

00:27:53.860 Good to be here.

00:27:55.300 Yeah. Um, you grew up in the United States and when did you move over to Israel?

00:27:59.580 Grew up in the okay state of New Jersey and, uh, not sure it's a great state, but it's okay.

00:28:05.360 Uh, moved over about, uh, 20 years ago after university and, uh, been, been living in Jerusalem

00:28:10.700 pretty much ever since.

00:28:11.720 So how exciting is it to be the guy who is, is, I mean, not just overseeing, but, but,

00:28:19.980 but actually playing a big role, any role in uncovering all of the ancient, uh, roads and

00:28:28.240 cities and baths and everything else that prove the Bible is true.

00:28:33.400 Yeah. It's an amazing thing because up until about a hundred years ago, much of the world,

00:28:38.000 what we'd call the Western world believed in, in God, believed in the Bible. Uh, in, in the

00:28:43.280 span of about a century, uh, that's changed 180 degrees that today people look at the Bible,

00:28:47.820 uh, the media, universities, culture, uh, it's mocked, it's scorned, and there's unprecedented

00:28:53.300 denial of the Bible, of the biblical heritage, of, of Jerusalem's biblical heritage. And yet

00:28:58.720 we're living in a time where there's also unprecedented discovery, uh, as if it says in, in the book

00:29:04.060 of Deuteronomy, choose life. There's, you have two options, but you can make a choice and you

00:29:09.460 could choose to deny, or you could choose to see what is literally being unearthed every day,

00:29:13.500 which is showing that Jerusalem's biblical heritage, the heritage that is significant to

00:29:17.660 Jews and Christians alike, uh, at the foundations of, of Western civilization is not simply a matter

00:29:23.140 of faith, but a matter of fact where you could see it, you could touch it, you could walk on it

00:29:27.360 every single day in the city of David. So it's amazing. I, I've never been to the, um,

00:29:34.620 the old city of David where, where a lot of the, uh, archaeological digs have been happening,

00:29:40.160 uh, cause it's in the Palestinian section, isn't it? Well, I, I would actually say it's very much in

00:29:45.060 the, uh, Israel section. Uh, Jerusalem, uh, has been significant to, uh, to Israel and the Jewish

00:29:50.500 people going on well over 3,000 years, uh, having been, uh, set as the capital of, of, uh, the kingdom of,

00:29:56.320 of Israel during the time of King David. And ever since then, Jerusalem has been the center of,

00:30:00.040 of Jewish life and aspiration. It's actually never been, uh, Jerusalem is actually not mentioned

00:30:04.100 a single time in the Quran. Uh, it's mentioned countless times in the Bible. So I would say that

00:30:08.780 the significance, uh, to the Jewish people obviously is, uh, incontrovertible, but also for

00:30:14.860 Christians, when you're talking about, uh, the people that matter most to, to Christianity. I mean,

00:30:19.840 they were walking through the city of David, uh, in Jerusalem, the places where the kings of the Bible

00:30:24.220 ruled and the prophets of the Bible preached, uh, that's where it is, uh, in the eastern part,

00:30:27.760 uh, of Jerusalem. Uh, it's perhaps the most significant half mile on the planet. The city

00:30:32.960 of David is a place that matters more to more people than any other place in the world for

00:30:36.420 billions, not just millions. I tell you, you've unearthed the pool of, what, what is the name

00:30:43.120 of the pool of the cleansing? Pool of Siloam. Pool of Siloam. Yeah, Siloam. Um, explain what that is.

00:30:47.760 So for, for Christians, I mean, even before, it's an amazing thing. We have a teaching in our

00:30:52.020 faith that says God has many messengers. In 2004, there's a road at the southern end of

00:30:56.140 the city of David, which is the historic site of biblical Jerusalem. And at the southern end of

00:30:59.880 this road, uh, there is a sewage pipe, which bursts. And now the municipality of Jerusalem has

00:31:05.400 to send in construction crews to repair the sewage pipe. But Jerusalem is not just another

00:31:09.360 municipality. And the city of David is not just another part of Jerusalem. And here, when a sewage 0.61

00:31:13.820 pipe bursts, you don't only send in construction crews, you also send in archaeologists. So they're

00:31:18.700 supervising and the construction crews, the bulldozers, dump trucks are doing their work.

00:31:22.020 And the archaeologists begin to hear scraping and scratching. It does not sound right.

00:31:25.820 They clear everyone out. And it turns out in repairing the sewage pipe, they find a series

00:31:29.780 of stone steps dating back some 2000 years. And the archaeologists say, well, there's only

00:31:34.020 one other set of steps in all of Jerusalem that look just like these. And those are the

00:31:38.000 steps leading up to the Temple Mount, the southern steps, rich with significance for Jews

00:31:42.700 and Christians alike. And they realize they had found the steps leading down to the pool

00:31:46.680 of Siloam. Now, what is the pool of Siloam? For Christians, in the Christian scriptures,

00:31:51.060 book of John, the story of Jesus healing the blind man, Pool of Siloam, City of David.

00:31:56.220 Now, the Bible tells us there's three times during the year, Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles,

00:32:00.500 when all of Israel has to go on pilgrimage up to the Temple. Now, before you can go up to

00:32:04.500 the Temple, you have to wash, cleanse, bathe, go to a ritual bath. The historian Josephus said

00:32:08.640 that 2000 years ago, say on Passover, you would have had nearly 3 million people going on pilgrimage

00:32:15.000 up to the Temple. The Pool of Siloam is the size of two Olympic-sized swimming pools that's being

00:32:20.280 excavated now by the Israel Antiquities Authority. And that led to a question, which is, if this is

00:32:25.260 the Pool of Siloam, the largest ritual bath in Jerusalem 2000 years ago, and we know where the

00:32:31.500 Temple stood atop the Temple Mount 2000 years ago, well, how did the millions of pilgrims get from

00:32:36.160 the pool all the way up to the Temple? And they widened the excavation, and they found what has

00:32:40.860 been called the most significant archaeological discovery of the last 100 years, none other than

00:32:46.080 the pilgrimage road, the road that your ancestors and mine would have walked on 2,000 years ago

00:32:51.620 when they went on pilgrimage up to the Temple atop the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

00:32:57.140 And it's in a tunnel now, isn't it? You can walk the whole thing?

00:33:00.840 So it's underground today, because unlike, let's say, in the United States, where you have eminent domain,

00:33:06.160 and you just move people out if you need to. In this part of Jerusalem, we don't apply eminent

00:33:10.620 domain, and therefore the challenge is, how do you respect the modern-day neighborhood that exists

00:33:15.820 atop the city of David while unearthing the heritage with significance not to millions,

00:33:20.180 but to billions, which is just beneath the surface? And so the reason why it's underground today,

00:33:24.780 2,000 years ago, it was under the sky. The reason why it's underground today is because we have to

00:33:28.680 support the modern-day neighborhood of the city of David, and we're unearthing the ancient flagstones,

00:33:33.640 massive flagstones that, again, go back to the time of Jesus. I'm asked, you know, many times by

00:33:39.040 all sorts of faith leaders and political leaders, what are the chances that Jesus walked on the

00:33:43.940 pilgrimage road running through the city of David? And I said, look, as I said, yeah, I'll give you a

00:33:49.360 conservative estimate. Conservatively speaking, the likelihood that he walked on that road, the

00:33:54.160 pilgrimage road in the city of David, is 100%. So they said, well, how do you know? I said, well,

00:33:59.160 it was really very simple. If you believe there was a historic Jesus, he was in Jerusalem, he was

00:34:03.440 Jewish, he went with all the Jews down to cleanse at the Pool of Siloam, then walked up through the 0.99

00:34:07.620 city of David along the pilgrimage road to the temple atop the Temple Mount. The Pool of Siloam

00:34:11.500 that we're excavating as we speak in the city of David right now is 100% the same Pool of Siloam

00:34:15.860 from 2,000 years ago. It's the same pilgrimage road, same city of David, same Temple Mount, not simply

00:34:20.600 a matter of faith, but a matter of fact. I have to tell you, I've seen pictures of it. I cannot wait

00:34:29.040 to go back to Jerusalem to see the pool. Can you actually, I know you can't get into it, but it's

00:34:34.940 way down because you had to excavate a lot. You can get into it. So it's way down. Can you go?

00:34:40.320 You could walk down. You can get into it? Well, I mean, it's under excavation, but when you come to

00:34:44.780 Jerusalem, Glenn, we're going to get you into it. I'll tell you a story with former Energy

00:34:51.280 Secretary Rick Perry. He came a couple of years ago for a visit, and he says, Zev, are you telling

00:34:57.980 me this is the spot where Jesus healed the blind man? I said, well, that's what it says in your

00:35:01.180 scriptures. And he walks down the steps. Then there were fewer steps, but he walks down and he starts

00:35:06.340 to make like he's washing himself. And he comes out with a giant smile on his face. And I said, Mr.

00:35:12.000 Secretary, it's a good thing that you're Christian and not Jewish. He said, why is that? I said, well, 0.94

00:35:16.680 we take our clothes off first before we go in.

00:35:22.840 What is the most significant thing that you have found? You know, I'm watching it, and I don't even

00:35:30.180 know if any of this is true, but I've seen these videos on YouTube where they think they found the...

00:35:39.000 Oh, jeez, the mountain that Moses was on, got the Ten Commandments, Mount Sinai.

00:35:45.760 Sure.

00:35:46.340 And they say, I think it's in Saudi Arabia, and it's all burnt at the top. It's an amazing thing. 0.98

00:35:54.220 And then they found all of these things that just mark in the Bible exactly the pilgrimage.

00:36:02.000 Is that stuff true? Is that really it? Do you know?

00:36:05.520 So I'll tell you a story that will indirectly answer this question. I gave a tour to a journalist

00:36:11.360 recently in the City of David. And at the end of the tour, the journalist says to me, she says,

00:36:16.820 Zev, do you actually believe all these Bible stories that you're talking about in the last

00:36:21.960 hour and a half, two hours that we're together? You really actually personally believe all this

00:36:25.100 stuff? And I said to her, it doesn't actually matter what I believe, because for billions of

00:36:31.440 people around the world, they believe it. There is no place in the world which matters

00:36:37.140 more to more people than Jerusalem. That for billions of people around the world, they wake

00:36:41.980 up in the morning and they look to Jerusalem as a source of meaning, hope, faith, identity,

00:36:46.300 purpose, inspiration. If you want to understand the world today, the history of the world, how

00:36:51.680 we got to where we are, how civilization developed, and what's happening today, literally today in

00:36:56.840 the world and the future of civilization, you need to understand Jerusalem. And so whether the Mount

00:37:03.600 Sinai that you're speaking about is in Saudi Arabia, whether it's in the Sinai Peninsula,

00:37:07.160 it's somewhere out there, but there was a real Mount Sinai where the revelation happened and billions

00:37:11.940 of people, they believe it. And so whether or not there's someone who says, well, I don't really

00:37:15.860 believe it. Well, that's nice. You're entitled to your beliefs, but you have to reckon with the fact

00:37:21.040 that for billions of people, they do believe it. And when you take the City of David, this is,

00:37:26.540 there are many places, both in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian scriptures, where you have to

00:37:31.120 take certain things on faith, where we don't necessarily have archaeological evidence affirming

00:37:35.040 those events. But the amazing thing about the City of David is that we are unearthing every single

00:37:41.240 day antiquities, fancy word for old stuff, that show not simply a matter of faith, but as a matter

00:37:45.900 of fact, Jerusalem's biblical heritage, the heritage that for Jews and Christians has shaped our

00:37:52.080 civilizations, that it's real. You could see it and you could touch it. And I'll tell you something

00:37:55.720 interesting. One of the last things that the Trump administration did before leaving office

00:38:00.580 is they recognized the City of David as a heritage site, but not as a Jewish heritage site or an

00:38:06.240 Israeli heritage site. They recognized it.

00:38:07.720 May I read it?

00:38:08.940 Yeah, go for it.

00:38:09.620 As I have, I have a picture of the tablet. Where is this posted?

00:38:13.180 It's at the entrance to these, yeah, it's at the entrance to the City of David in Jerusalem.

00:38:17.760 Awesome. So listen to this. This is the last thing, one of the last things Trump did while

00:38:22.820 he was in office. The City of David brings biblical Jerusalem to life at the very place where the

00:38:28.340 kings and the prophets of the Bible walked. It is the site where internationally acclaimed

00:38:32.680 archaeological discoveries have been unearthed, including the Pool of Shalom.

00:38:38.100 Say it for me.

00:38:40.480 Pool of Shalom.

00:38:41.080 What is it?

00:38:41.680 The Pool of Shalom.

00:38:43.340 Okay. The pilgrimage road, the Gion Spring, and Hezekiah's tunnel. As the prophet Isaiah said,

00:38:51.140 out of Zion shall go forth the law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. The spiritual bedrock of

00:38:57.840 our values as a nation comes from Jerusalem. It is here these ideals that the American Republic was

00:39:04.400 founded upon, and the unbreakable bond between the United States and Israel was formed. The City

00:39:10.220 of David serves as a proud reminder to the glorious heritage of the United States of America.

00:39:14.920 I rejoiced with those who said to me, let us go to the house of the Lord. Our feet are standing

00:39:19.300 in your gates, Jerusalem. Psalms. And it doesn't have Donald Trump's name on it. It just has the seal

00:39:26.760 of the ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, and Paul Packer, the chairman of the U.S. Commission for

00:39:32.620 Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad. I think that is remarkable. We don't recognize our heritage

00:39:41.380 really ever anymore. And the further that slips away, the more our republic will slip away.

00:39:51.500 100%.

00:39:52.060 Thank you so much for coming in. I can't wait to come and see you and visit you.

00:39:58.880 And I was just, I was, I was planning a trip in just a couple of weeks, but some things have

00:40:06.480 changed, so I can't, but I'm, I'm coming out because I just, I got to bring my family there

00:40:12.160 one more time. I've, I've got to be there before the whole world goes absolutely insane.

00:40:17.160 I would say God willing, you'll bring in more than one time.

00:40:19.200 Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all you do.

00:40:22.940 Na, na, na, na, na.

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