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On today's show: Kamala again, Kamala hems and haws her way through an interview, almost like she didn't get coached up for a week leading up to it. She admits something that you might not hear many Democrats admit about the 2020 election. Also, Zev Orenstein has a huge undertaking to discover the ancient city of David while not disturbing the modern day city of Jerusalem. He talks about the process and the miraculous things they have found. Plus, on the Full Show Podcast, you'll also hear from retired Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Corricas, who talks to us and tells us the story behind the Beepers.
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Hey, on today's podcast, Kamala again, hems and haws her way through an interview,
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almost like she didn't get coached up for a week leading into it. But Nicole Shanahan is also
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joining the program. She admits something that you might not hear many Democrats admit about
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the 2020 election. It was shocking to me. Also, Zev Orenstein, he is with us. He has a huge
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undertaking to discover the ancient city of David while not disturbing the modern day city of
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Jerusalem. He talks about the process and the miraculous things that they have found. Plus,
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on the full show podcast, you'll also hear from retired Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Corricas.
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He is a former, I think he was former spokesperson for the Israeli Navy or the Israeli Army. And he
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talks to us and tells us the story behind the beepers. You're dialed in to the best of the
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're
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really glad that you're here. I want to remind you of something that I think is really important.
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Rescue the Republic. Join the Resistance. It is happening in Washington, D.C. on 9-29.
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It's Sunday, I believe, the 29th of September, so it's coming up not this weekend but next. It's in
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Washington, D.C. I mean, the lineup is amazing. This is going to be outdoors. They just asked you to show
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up outdoors right by the Washington Memorial in Washington, D.C. It's put on by a whole bunch of
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people but Brett Weinstein is heading this. Robert Kennedy is going to be there. Russell Brand will
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Dr. Robert Malone is going to be there. They've got comedians that will be there. They've got
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musicians. It's really, really a big deal. Now, what this is is a group of people that are
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not necessarily cut from exactly the same cloth that you are but they believe many of the same
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things in principles, not necessarily in policies but that's where we have to unite and they are
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they're taking it all on. They're taking on the military industrial complex, the medical industrial
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complex, censorship industrial complex, immigration industrial complex. Notice that all of this stuff
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is an industrial complex which it is. All of this stuff is. It's a cabal or as Roseanne Barr would say
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it's a mafia. The financial industrial complex, the developmental complex, academic industrial
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complex, which is one of the ones that was mentioned and everybody seems to fail to remember
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by Eisenhower. War is the last hope. I mean, sorry. War is the last resort. Sanctify, recodify informed
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consent with medicine, banish the state media control, surveillance and propaganda, enact a rational
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border policy, end lawfare and abuse of the judicial system, secure monetary freedom, restore family
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sovereignty and return to truth-seeking and open dialogue in our schools. I'm for every single one of
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those pillars. There are the eight pillars. My guess is, because I've just done this with somebody else and I
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witnessed it myself under Obama, the three-letter agencies are talking about, at the last minute, they're
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talking about, you've got to have this, you have to have this, you have to have more security, you have to blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I would, I don't know that, but I'm guessing. And they have a give, send, go.
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So, if you would like to help defray some of those costs, most likely they are security costs. And, well,
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I'll just leave it at that. You can go to rescuetherepublic.org. I'm sorry, jointheresistance.org,
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jointheresistance.org forward slash, what is it? What is it? Donate? Donate. Yeah. Okay.
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Jointheresistance.org forward slash donate. You know, I love the fact that all of these people
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are standing up and they are trying to wake their neighbors up and say, look, guys, we have to go
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back to principles. And you may not like this guy, but the other side, you've got to take a look at the
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other side. And, you know, they gave us a glimpse of the other side again yesterday. Kamala has given
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another interview, should have been with a very friendly audience, the NABJ, that's the National
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Association of Black Journalists. This is the one where one of, I think it's another one of her,
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you know, Greek fraternity sisters or sorority sisters was interviewing Donald Trump. And she
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started with that nasty question, not even a hello, just why is it? It should have been very
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friendly for Kamala, but she didn't do well. Let's take cut five, start there.
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Is the price of groceries still too high? Yes. Do we have more work to do? Yes. And I will tell
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you, I do believe that I offer a new generation of leadership for our country. That is about,
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in particular, turning the page on an era that sadly has shown us attempts by some to incite fear to
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create division in our country. The assassins? What is it? The assassins that you're talking
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about? Are they the ones that are? What page are we turning from where? What are we turning it from,
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Glenn? Maybe in our economics book? I'm not really sure. The question was about inflation. What are
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your plans to reduce inflation and get the economy going? At least she didn't say, well, you know,
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Tim Walls and I are from a middle-class family. I'm sick of that. They answer that. That's three
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times I've heard her answer that question about inflation with, you know, we're from a middle
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class. Well, that's great. You're from a middle-class family. What does that do? What does that
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mean? What does that mean? Hey, someday, if you're in middle class, you could grow up and lie to the
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American people and try to become president. That has nothing to do with the price of milk and the
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price of meat. Sorry. Cut six. Now she's asked again about the economy. Listen. What is your
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message to young black male voters who feel left out of this economy? And how can your economic
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policies materially change their lives? So I appreciate the spirit of the question,
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but I'll tell you, I've often been asked this question in a way that I've had to respond by first
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saying that I think it's very important to not, um, operate from the assumption that black men are
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in anybody's pocket. Black men are like any other voting group. You got to earn their vote.
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Do you really think that? Okay. So earn it. I'm working to earn the vote, not assuming I'm going to have
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it because I am black, but because the policies and the perspectives I have understands what we must
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do to recognize the needs of all communities. Okay. So what are you going to do? She doesn't answer
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the question. She never answers the question. I mean, doesn't that, it doesn't that tell you
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something? If you're a Democrat, doesn't that tell you something? Why won't they ever answer a question?
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My gosh, I just have to play this real quick. Uh, this is CBS. This is CBS in Nevada. They went to
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several restaurants to talk to supporters of Harris and to Trump. Listen, listen to this cut eight.
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We had so much fun, but what was really incredible is in every single restaurant of the people willing
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to talk to us, we could only find one Harris supporter in every restaurant. And we left no stone
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unturned. I approached every single person. I only found one person. I mean, I think that's probably
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more accurate on what's going on. You don't think so, Stu? I mean, too pessimistic as a human being.
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I'm an Eagles fan. I just assume everything's going to go wrong. So no, I don't think that's
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happening. I know. I know. But I mean, I, you listen to her interviews and it's hard not to
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get the impression that no human being would ever vote for her. She's the, the interview she did last
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week with the local ABC station. Yeah. Because I mean, they asked also about the opportunity economy
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there. And I will say, I think her, I think her answer here may have been even worse than the one
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at the NABJ. Listen to this. At the debate the other night, you talked about creating an
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opportunity economy. Yeah. What does that mean? I wonder if we can drill down on that a little
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bit. When we talk about bringing down prices and making life more affordable for people,
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what are one or two specific things you have in mind for that? Specific. Well, I'll start with this.
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Okay. I grew up a middle-class kid. What? My mother raised my sister and me. She worked very hard.
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That's a policy? She was able to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when I was
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a teenager. Oh, that's great. I grew up in a community of hardworking people. You know,
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construction workers and nurses and teachers. Okay. All right. Nurses is the proposal? I try to
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explain to some people who may not have had the same experience, you know, if, but a lot of people
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will relate to this. Okay. You know, I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of
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their lawn. The lawn. You know? The lawn. The lawn is your own. I don't know. Your proposals are lawns
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for all? And I was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. Dignity. Okay. Lawn
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dignity? And that we as Americans have a beautiful character. Character. You know, we have
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What the hell is she even talking about? Nothing is happening here. But not everyone necessarily
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has access to the resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambitions. Fertilizer? Are we still
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on lawns? I'm confused. So when I talk about building an opportunity economy, it is very much with the
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mind of investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work ethic of the American
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people. So the ambitions of the policy. It's creating opportunity for people, for example, to start a small
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business. Okay. Oh, wait. Are we coming to a policy? You know, worked long hours and our neighbor helped
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raise us. Don't say aspirations again, please. I still call her our second mother. She was a small
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business owner. Okay, there we go. I love our small business owners. I mean, where is it? Oh, that's
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great. You got that policy? What the hell was that? It's aspirations for lawns. That's the policy.
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And she's going to implement that. I mean, can we just take, hang on just a sec. Let's take this
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seriously. What the hell did she mean about the, you know, I grew up in a neighborhood where everybody was
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proud of their lawns. You know what I mean? I really, unfortunately don't know what, I mean,
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I know people who are proud of their lawns. I just don't know how it applies to any of this. Like
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there are people who used to really care about their lawns and go out there and fertilize it and
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curate it and do all that stuff. They still do. Yeah. But I don't, I don't remember as a kid
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thinking, oh gosh, well, I mean, that's the economy. The goal is, is the lawn. And her, and her,
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and her idea of, you know, that's why we're going to invest in people's dreams.
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No. With what money are you going to invest with? More tax dollars or more printed phony money,
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which will only drive inflation up. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's crazy how they just,
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nobody seems to demand an answer. They're just okay with, you know, it's just joyful.
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Yeah. Well, it's definitely joyful aspirations there, Glenn. But I mean, she's talking about
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taking money from taking dreams from some and trying to redistribute them to others. Right.
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Like that's not right. Um, we also have it from this small businessman and let me give it to
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somebody who wants to start a small business. Well, wait a minute. Hold on.
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Nicole Shanahan is joining us. How are you, Nicole?
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I'm doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me back on. How are you?
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You I'm very good. I'm very good. You know, um, a few months ago when, uh, RFK was running,
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uh, and you joined, I thought, well, there goes the conservative vote. Um, anybody, uh, you know,
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anybody was watching it because you are Oakland, California, you, uh, are much more liberal,
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um, uh, or progressive. And now I'm reevaluating everything again, because there are people that
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are on the left, uh, not left that are, well, lean left, um, that are, have different points of view,
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but still love the country. And we don't see those people very often in, in the, uh, in the news,
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you know, and those people we can get along with all day long. If you love the bill of rights,
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I'm with you. I'm with you. Yep. Yep. There's a huge population out there and they don't know where
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to go right now. A lot of them were attracted to our campaign and our campaign was really a place
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to go. If you were kind of socially, um, progressive or liberal, but intellectually educated
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and saw what was happening with the democratic party and just none of it reconciled. I mean,
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if you look at the democratic party over the last eight years, you can't reconcile their relationship
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with the economy. It doesn't make any sense. So if you're a business person went to an, a top
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educational, um, institution came out, got a job, spent, uh, you know, 20 years of your career in
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front of spreadsheets and you're seeing what's going on under democratic leadership, even in the state of
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California, it does not reconcile. Um, and so a lot of these folks and lawyers too have nowhere to go
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right now. And, um, it's been really interesting for me just in my personal experience. I'm an
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attorney. I came out of Oakland, but I worked hard and, you know, I did, I did rely on the government's,
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uh, safety net to catch me. I was on government assistance at times as a child, but it was,
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it was never a place to stay. The goal was always to work your way out of that. And those were the,
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the foundations of the ethics I grew up on. That's right. Those are the ethics. Those are the ethics
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that I grew up on too. You know, I learned about welfare from my father. There was a, he owned a
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bakery and a woman came in, uh, and I was little and she used, uh, a welfare stamp, uh, to pay. And I
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had never seen one before. And, uh, I said, dad, that's not real money. And he gave me the look of
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death. Um, this little old lady was buying stuff and he pulled me back after she left. He said,
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don't ever say that ever, ever again. That woman is struggling. That's what we do. That's what a
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government safety net is for, for people who need it like her. Don't ever embarrass her again. And I'm
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like, I didn't, sorry, dad. Then later about, I don't know, six, eight months later, my dad happened
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to come up front and it was a guy who had food stamps and he paid. And my father was pretty nasty
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to the guy. I mean, he was very cold. And I, I asked him, I'm like, what? That guy gave you the
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same kind of money. And he said, that man, I know that man can work. He decides to live off the rest
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of us. That's where it goes wrong. And I think all of us kind of grew up with that. I mean, most of us.
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Yeah. It will, except for young people today. And I think that's where the left is cannibalizing
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the best of itself. Um, and I say cannibalizing because it's actually working against its own
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interests for compassion and social growth. Um, and, and, you know, trying to figure out how to
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help people get through difficult times. I think that how it's cannibalizing itself really exists
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in the identity politics. I know you talk a lot about that, but I experienced it as a philanthropist
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trying to go back to Oakland and, and trying to really work on the issues that matter and identifying
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them with just a strict logical process. I, I looked at the issues around homelessness, around
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drug abuse, um, around the education gap. And I realized so much of it has to do with nutrition
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and health. And so I went about trying to fix that. And, and I will tell you of all of the NGOs I was
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approached by and worked with, none were interested in, in real food. Um, a lot of them were interested
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in activism and funneling millions of dollars into these regrant programs, um, that don't actually
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help people and make them reliant on these nonprofit dollars. Um, and so the mechanics of social
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mobility, um, and you can look at it strictly through, um, you know, the lens of economics,
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you can look at it through social dynamics. Um, and you come out realizing that you have to invest
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in, in schools and education, clean water is a huge one, but also food, um, kids underperform when
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they don't eat well. And the fact that they're not addressing this on the left, that there's no NGOs
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that are sincerely working on this makes, made me realize that, um, that entire framework, the
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culture of that, that thinking about poor versus wealthy or black versus white was all wrong.
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It's just the wrong way of looking at it. And, and then realizing how many people are profiting off of
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that, um, uh, model of the world, that framework of the world, it's, it's very predatory. It's predatory
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people. Yeah, it's grotesque. It's predatory. It's, it's, it actually feeds into the cycle of racism.
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Um, and it doesn't work and things have gotten actually worse as these NGOs, um, have just kind
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of gotten away with this bad behavior. So Nicole, what, what moved you to say, I think I've got to go
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stand with Donald Trump. I mean, that had to shock you when you thought that what moved you there?
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Well, I, you know, I, there were so many things that have led to it, but I will say that when I
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left the democratic party, there were threats kind of lobbed my direction, but they were, they, they kind
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of seem like silly threats like, Oh, you'll never make it. Um, well, you know, they're going to do
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everything to ruin your reputation. Um, the machine's going to be pointed at you. And I don't
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think you realize what we have in this machine. And I was like, ah, I can overcome that. That's all
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silliness. And, and, and then, you know, and then the media. So first they unleashed the media on you.
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And I was like, ah, you know, so many of these things can be disproven lost a lot of respect for
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the media, but I had already lost quite a bit of respect for them, um, prior. And you can kind of
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get over all that name calling. And once people get a chance to know you, they realize, um, that the,
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the media really had so much of you wrong, but, but then, you know, then came the, um, attack on
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our campaign directly. And it all came from the left. None of it came from the right. And even
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though, um, Republicans have actually out, um, earned or outraised the Democrats, the Republicans
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don't spend their money attacking their opponents the way the Democrats do. And this is some really
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underhanded stuff that really makes you question election integrity, um, in ways that I had actually
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never questioned election integrity. I didn't believe, um, that, you know, there was election
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interference in 2020. Um, I didn't believe the narrative coming from the right that the election
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was stolen. Um, and so, you know, I do now, I do do now. I do now. I do now. What brought you there?
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You know, lived experience. They say the two things that really get people to change their
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minds are grief and God. And, um, I, I have to say there was some really heartbreaking moments,
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uh, during this campaign. We gave it everything and we followed the black letter law, um, very
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precisely. And, and we did every, I mean, the amount of heart and soul and tears and running around.
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I mean, people were just constantly sweaty on our campaign because everyone wore six different hats
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and, um, you know, they would be crossing the country four times, uh, every few days. I mean,
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it was, it was so much work and we did, we succeeded in what many people thought was impossible,
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which was even just getting on all the ballots, all 50 ballots. And we did. And the day that we did
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that same, um, just within a few hours, we found out that, uh, New York and they had been suing us.
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We, we had won seven cases, seven of these ballot cases where the democratic party came in
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or their line packs and sued us, uh, attempted to sue us to get us, uh, removed from the ballots,
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which I can't believe is even legal that a political opponent can sue you to take you off the ballot,
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but, but it's apparently common practice for the Democrats. And, and Republicans don't do this.
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Remember Republicans just don't do that because they respect third parties. They respect democracy.
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They respect the things that make democracy, democracy. So anyway, so we won all seven. We're
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seven and oh, we were feeling good. We just did this big press event and, and then New York came along
00:26:07.180
and new, the case in New York really opened my eyes because this was a judge that was not acting
00:26:16.000
on behalf of the American public. This was a judge acting on behalf of the democratic party. And, um,
00:26:22.560
there was, there was just no room for a legal argument. Uh, the decision seemed to already had
00:26:29.120
have been made by the time we arrived, they treated Bobby like a petty criminal. Um, I later
00:26:36.940
testified, my experience testifying felt just got awful. Like I had done something wrong by trying to
00:26:43.120
run as a third party in this country. And, and I think through this process and then realizing the
00:26:49.820
extent of how much they're willing to denigrate the democratic process, um, in this country to win
00:26:57.980
and how, how, how entitled they feel doing so. Um, and you know, Bobby and I are, our, our personalities
00:27:05.580
are, are very much aligned with that California liberal mentality. And, and so to, to be treated by
00:27:13.980
friends, colleagues, people that know you like this, um, made me realize that that something was very,
00:27:21.440
very wrong. Um, and so I will say Trump. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast.
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Excited to, uh, to talk to Zev Orenstein. He is the city of David foundation director of, uh,
00:27:43.200
international affairs. Uh, and, uh, he's with us to talk a little bit about some of the things that
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are being discovered now in archeology. Zev, so good to have you on.
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Yeah. Um, you grew up in the United States and when did you move over to Israel?
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Grew up in the okay state of New Jersey and, uh, not sure it's a great state, but it's okay.
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Uh, moved over about, uh, 20 years ago after university and, uh, been, been living in Jerusalem
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So how exciting is it to be the guy who is, is, I mean, not just overseeing, but, but,
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but actually playing a big role, any role in uncovering all of the ancient, uh, roads and
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cities and baths and everything else that prove the Bible is true.
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Yeah. It's an amazing thing because up until about a hundred years ago, much of the world,
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what we'd call the Western world believed in, in God, believed in the Bible. Uh, in, in the
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span of about a century, uh, that's changed 180 degrees that today people look at the Bible,
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uh, the media, universities, culture, uh, it's mocked, it's scorned, and there's unprecedented
00:28:53.300
denial of the Bible, of the biblical heritage, of, of Jerusalem's biblical heritage. And yet
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we're living in a time where there's also unprecedented discovery, uh, as if it says in, in the book
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of Deuteronomy, choose life. There's, you have two options, but you can make a choice and you
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could choose to deny, or you could choose to see what is literally being unearthed every day,
00:29:13.500
which is showing that Jerusalem's biblical heritage, the heritage that is significant to
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Jews and Christians alike, uh, at the foundations of, of Western civilization is not simply a matter
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of faith, but a matter of fact where you could see it, you could touch it, you could walk on it
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every single day in the city of David. So it's amazing. I, I've never been to the, um,
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the old city of David where, where a lot of the, uh, archaeological digs have been happening,
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uh, cause it's in the Palestinian section, isn't it? Well, I, I would actually say it's very much in
00:29:45.060
the, uh, Israel section. Uh, Jerusalem, uh, has been significant to, uh, to Israel and the Jewish
00:29:50.500
people going on well over 3,000 years, uh, having been, uh, set as the capital of, of, uh, the kingdom of,
00:29:56.320
of Israel during the time of King David. And ever since then, Jerusalem has been the center of,
00:30:00.040
of Jewish life and aspiration. It's actually never been, uh, Jerusalem is actually not mentioned
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a single time in the Quran. Uh, it's mentioned countless times in the Bible. So I would say that
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the significance, uh, to the Jewish people obviously is, uh, incontrovertible, but also for
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Christians, when you're talking about, uh, the people that matter most to, to Christianity. I mean,
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they were walking through the city of David, uh, in Jerusalem, the places where the kings of the Bible
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ruled and the prophets of the Bible preached, uh, that's where it is, uh, in the eastern part,
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uh, of Jerusalem. Uh, it's perhaps the most significant half mile on the planet. The city
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of David is a place that matters more to more people than any other place in the world for
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billions, not just millions. I tell you, you've unearthed the pool of, what, what is the name
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of the pool of the cleansing? Pool of Siloam. Pool of Siloam. Yeah, Siloam. Um, explain what that is.
00:30:47.760
So for, for Christians, I mean, even before, it's an amazing thing. We have a teaching in our
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faith that says God has many messengers. In 2004, there's a road at the southern end of
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the city of David, which is the historic site of biblical Jerusalem. And at the southern end of
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this road, uh, there is a sewage pipe, which bursts. And now the municipality of Jerusalem has
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to send in construction crews to repair the sewage pipe. But Jerusalem is not just another
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municipality. And the city of David is not just another part of Jerusalem. And here, when a sewage
00:31:13.820
pipe bursts, you don't only send in construction crews, you also send in archaeologists. So they're
00:31:18.700
supervising and the construction crews, the bulldozers, dump trucks are doing their work.
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And the archaeologists begin to hear scraping and scratching. It does not sound right.
00:31:25.820
They clear everyone out. And it turns out in repairing the sewage pipe, they find a series
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of stone steps dating back some 2000 years. And the archaeologists say, well, there's only
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one other set of steps in all of Jerusalem that look just like these. And those are the
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steps leading up to the Temple Mount, the southern steps, rich with significance for Jews
00:31:42.700
and Christians alike. And they realize they had found the steps leading down to the pool
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of Siloam. Now, what is the pool of Siloam? For Christians, in the Christian scriptures,
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book of John, the story of Jesus healing the blind man, Pool of Siloam, City of David.
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Now, the Bible tells us there's three times during the year, Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles,
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when all of Israel has to go on pilgrimage up to the Temple. Now, before you can go up to
00:32:04.500
the Temple, you have to wash, cleanse, bathe, go to a ritual bath. The historian Josephus said
00:32:08.640
that 2000 years ago, say on Passover, you would have had nearly 3 million people going on pilgrimage
00:32:15.000
up to the Temple. The Pool of Siloam is the size of two Olympic-sized swimming pools that's being
00:32:20.280
excavated now by the Israel Antiquities Authority. And that led to a question, which is, if this is
00:32:25.260
the Pool of Siloam, the largest ritual bath in Jerusalem 2000 years ago, and we know where the
00:32:31.500
Temple stood atop the Temple Mount 2000 years ago, well, how did the millions of pilgrims get from
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the pool all the way up to the Temple? And they widened the excavation, and they found what has
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been called the most significant archaeological discovery of the last 100 years, none other than
00:32:46.080
the pilgrimage road, the road that your ancestors and mine would have walked on 2,000 years ago
00:32:51.620
when they went on pilgrimage up to the Temple atop the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
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And it's in a tunnel now, isn't it? You can walk the whole thing?
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So it's underground today, because unlike, let's say, in the United States, where you have eminent domain,
00:33:06.160
and you just move people out if you need to. In this part of Jerusalem, we don't apply eminent
00:33:10.620
domain, and therefore the challenge is, how do you respect the modern-day neighborhood that exists
00:33:15.820
atop the city of David while unearthing the heritage with significance not to millions,
00:33:20.180
but to billions, which is just beneath the surface? And so the reason why it's underground today,
00:33:24.780
2,000 years ago, it was under the sky. The reason why it's underground today is because we have to
00:33:28.680
support the modern-day neighborhood of the city of David, and we're unearthing the ancient flagstones,
00:33:33.640
massive flagstones that, again, go back to the time of Jesus. I'm asked, you know, many times by
00:33:39.040
all sorts of faith leaders and political leaders, what are the chances that Jesus walked on the
00:33:43.940
pilgrimage road running through the city of David? And I said, look, as I said, yeah, I'll give you a
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conservative estimate. Conservatively speaking, the likelihood that he walked on that road, the
00:33:54.160
pilgrimage road in the city of David, is 100%. So they said, well, how do you know? I said, well,
00:33:59.160
it was really very simple. If you believe there was a historic Jesus, he was in Jerusalem, he was
00:34:03.440
Jewish, he went with all the Jews down to cleanse at the Pool of Siloam, then walked up through the
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city of David along the pilgrimage road to the temple atop the Temple Mount. The Pool of Siloam
00:34:11.500
that we're excavating as we speak in the city of David right now is 100% the same Pool of Siloam
00:34:15.860
from 2,000 years ago. It's the same pilgrimage road, same city of David, same Temple Mount, not simply
00:34:20.600
a matter of faith, but a matter of fact. I have to tell you, I've seen pictures of it. I cannot wait
00:34:29.040
to go back to Jerusalem to see the pool. Can you actually, I know you can't get into it, but it's
00:34:34.940
way down because you had to excavate a lot. You can get into it. So it's way down. Can you go?
00:34:40.320
You could walk down. You can get into it? Well, I mean, it's under excavation, but when you come to
00:34:44.780
Jerusalem, Glenn, we're going to get you into it. I'll tell you a story with former Energy
00:34:51.280
Secretary Rick Perry. He came a couple of years ago for a visit, and he says, Zev, are you telling
00:34:57.980
me this is the spot where Jesus healed the blind man? I said, well, that's what it says in your
00:35:01.180
scriptures. And he walks down the steps. Then there were fewer steps, but he walks down and he starts
00:35:06.340
to make like he's washing himself. And he comes out with a giant smile on his face. And I said, Mr.
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Secretary, it's a good thing that you're Christian and not Jewish. He said, why is that? I said, well,
00:35:22.840
What is the most significant thing that you have found? You know, I'm watching it, and I don't even
00:35:30.180
know if any of this is true, but I've seen these videos on YouTube where they think they found the...
00:35:39.000
Oh, jeez, the mountain that Moses was on, got the Ten Commandments, Mount Sinai.
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And they say, I think it's in Saudi Arabia, and it's all burnt at the top. It's an amazing thing.
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And then they found all of these things that just mark in the Bible exactly the pilgrimage.
00:36:02.000
Is that stuff true? Is that really it? Do you know?
00:36:05.520
So I'll tell you a story that will indirectly answer this question. I gave a tour to a journalist
00:36:11.360
recently in the City of David. And at the end of the tour, the journalist says to me, she says,
00:36:16.820
Zev, do you actually believe all these Bible stories that you're talking about in the last
00:36:21.960
hour and a half, two hours that we're together? You really actually personally believe all this
00:36:25.100
stuff? And I said to her, it doesn't actually matter what I believe, because for billions of
00:36:31.440
people around the world, they believe it. There is no place in the world which matters
00:36:37.140
more to more people than Jerusalem. That for billions of people around the world, they wake
00:36:41.980
up in the morning and they look to Jerusalem as a source of meaning, hope, faith, identity,
00:36:46.300
purpose, inspiration. If you want to understand the world today, the history of the world, how
00:36:51.680
we got to where we are, how civilization developed, and what's happening today, literally today in
00:36:56.840
the world and the future of civilization, you need to understand Jerusalem. And so whether the Mount
00:37:03.600
Sinai that you're speaking about is in Saudi Arabia, whether it's in the Sinai Peninsula,
00:37:07.160
it's somewhere out there, but there was a real Mount Sinai where the revelation happened and billions
00:37:11.940
of people, they believe it. And so whether or not there's someone who says, well, I don't really
00:37:15.860
believe it. Well, that's nice. You're entitled to your beliefs, but you have to reckon with the fact
00:37:21.040
that for billions of people, they do believe it. And when you take the City of David, this is,
00:37:26.540
there are many places, both in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian scriptures, where you have to
00:37:31.120
take certain things on faith, where we don't necessarily have archaeological evidence affirming
00:37:35.040
those events. But the amazing thing about the City of David is that we are unearthing every single
00:37:41.240
day antiquities, fancy word for old stuff, that show not simply a matter of faith, but as a matter
00:37:45.900
of fact, Jerusalem's biblical heritage, the heritage that for Jews and Christians has shaped our
00:37:52.080
civilizations, that it's real. You could see it and you could touch it. And I'll tell you something
00:37:55.720
interesting. One of the last things that the Trump administration did before leaving office
00:38:00.580
is they recognized the City of David as a heritage site, but not as a Jewish heritage site or an
00:38:09.620
As I have, I have a picture of the tablet. Where is this posted?
00:38:13.180
It's at the entrance to these, yeah, it's at the entrance to the City of David in Jerusalem.
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Awesome. So listen to this. This is the last thing, one of the last things Trump did while
00:38:22.820
he was in office. The City of David brings biblical Jerusalem to life at the very place where the
00:38:28.340
kings and the prophets of the Bible walked. It is the site where internationally acclaimed
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archaeological discoveries have been unearthed, including the Pool of Shalom.
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Okay. The pilgrimage road, the Gion Spring, and Hezekiah's tunnel. As the prophet Isaiah said,
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out of Zion shall go forth the law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. The spiritual bedrock of
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our values as a nation comes from Jerusalem. It is here these ideals that the American Republic was
00:39:04.400
founded upon, and the unbreakable bond between the United States and Israel was formed. The City
00:39:10.220
of David serves as a proud reminder to the glorious heritage of the United States of America.
00:39:14.920
I rejoiced with those who said to me, let us go to the house of the Lord. Our feet are standing
00:39:19.300
in your gates, Jerusalem. Psalms. And it doesn't have Donald Trump's name on it. It just has the seal
00:39:26.760
of the ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, and Paul Packer, the chairman of the U.S. Commission for
00:39:32.620
Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad. I think that is remarkable. We don't recognize our heritage
00:39:41.380
really ever anymore. And the further that slips away, the more our republic will slip away.
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Thank you so much for coming in. I can't wait to come and see you and visit you.
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And I was just, I was, I was planning a trip in just a couple of weeks, but some things have
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changed, so I can't, but I'm, I'm coming out because I just, I got to bring my family there
00:40:12.160
one more time. I've, I've got to be there before the whole world goes absolutely insane.
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I would say God willing, you'll bring in more than one time.
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Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all you do.