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In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn Beck is joined by his good friend Aaron Watson to discuss immigration, the border crisis, Bitcoin, and much more. Glenn and Aaron discuss the latest in the immigration debate, including the latest on the ICE raid on the southern border, the ICE raids on the border, and the recent ICE raids in El Paso, Texas.
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Hey, welcome to the podcast today. Back in studio, we've got border talk, a lot of border talk,
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reparations for gay people, concentration camp rumors, and Bitcoin. We got Bitcoin hitting 11,000
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over the weekend. Biden comparing the Trump election to the MLK assassination, Biden on
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segregation, and Booker trying to take him on. And yet we found something that Booker said just
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this weekend that we thought, wow, pot, meat, kettle. And Aaron Watson, who has his next album out,
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Red Bandana. It's fantastic. He's with us as well, all on today's podcast.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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president. Last night he did his first Spanish speaking interview. He didn't speak Spanish,
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neither did the interviewer, but it was for, I think, Telemundo. It was, it was incredibly unfair.
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It's everything that you would expect. Okay. Why are you ripping families apart? No, I stopped it.
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I stopped it. It was Obama. We're not talking about Obama here, sir. Yeah, but I stopped it.
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It was Obama. We're not talking about Obama here, sir. I mean, it's that kind of stuff.
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So it's just so frustrating. I just, I endured it once. I don't want to have to endure it a second
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time. Although he did a really good job. He kept his cool the entire time. He just kept restating the
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facts. I thought he did an excellent job on that last night. And the media is so convinced that
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they're right on this. And I don't think they are. I think people are seeing, and I mean, Hispanics
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and everybody else, people are people. We all want secure jobs, secure neighborhoods, safe places for
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our families. When he got into, well, you said that MS-13 members are coming over, but there's a lot of
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other people. Yes. But mixed in those people, if it's one in a hundred, that's too many. We don't know
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who these people are. I think that actually works for the average person. And I'm not talking about,
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man, I've been traveling the country here this summer. And I just don't think people are playing
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the politics game, like talk radio plays it, like certainly like the media plays it. We're hyper
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focused on this, but the average American is pretty much done. And they're just watching it,
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you know, from a distance. And if he can remain calm and cool as he did, uh, all the way through,
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he's, he's going to make an impact because this is getting worse and worse and worse.
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And the Democrats, this, this compromise with Nancy Pelosi that they announced this weekend,
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do you see that still on the border? Yeah. Yeah. He announced he was going to do these raids.
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And then he said at request of Democrats, I'm going to delay the raids for a couple of weeks to see if
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they can work something out. So she did, she worked something out. Uh, she's going to provide all of
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the funding so they can, you know, move on and, uh, help communities deal with all of these,
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but nothing for actual security. Just, yeah, we'll help get these people out and on their feet.
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No, that that's, that's, that's not what we were asking for. And I think that, um,
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I think that the average American is going to see through this game. And I think the Democrats
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almost, I think they want him to act through executive order there because, because they're,
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they're not acting reasonably here at all. And I really think that they want him to take this on.
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And quite honestly, I'm at that point, Mr. President, just, we're going to lose our country.
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We're going to lose our country. You can't have this kind of influx.
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I find it interesting to the way the media looks at this, because if you go back to,
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let's say when Republicans were saying, we don't want Planned Parenthood funded. Okay. And then
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they, they quote unquote, shut down the government. And the focus was constantly on the victims,
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right. Of, of this, of the shutdown. The people who didn't have their, you know,
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the military people didn't get their paychecks. And like, they went through every case they could
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to try. And when, you know, when the military paychecks came, then it was another thing. It was always
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some desperate person who was being affected by the Republicans. And the, the idea was, you know,
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Republicans should just get past this little thing they have with funding abortion and give the money
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to the people who need it. Well, look at this situation. Tell me it's not the exact same thing,
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right? Like Republicans are asking, saying like, look, give us money to deal with all of these asylum
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claims and all these illegal immigrants that are crossing. You keep saying that, you know,
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we're detaining them in this, you know, horrible, inhuman way. Well, we need more money to deal
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with them as everybody has noted that the numbers are up in incredible amounts. So they've asked for
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it. They've asked to take care of the problem. Democrats are identifying, right? That this,
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this, you know, these detainments are not, uh, are not, you know, the, the best, right? They want to,
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they want to improve them. So what do they say? What's the, what's the, is it, I mean,
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if it was handled the same way, we'd say Democrats should get over the idea that they should not fund
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this. And they're pushing all the politics that are difficult on Republicans and deal with the
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actual victims here. No, this again, it falls on the Republicans as, as the problem. Republicans
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aren't doing enough to, to help the illegal immigrants. And then they talk about whatever
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Trump tweeted last week. Well, why, why don't the Democrats have to get over their ideological, uh,
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upset with the president on this? Why don't they just have to give him the money?
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So here's this very good point. Um, and we all know the answer. I think, um, that there's,
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you know, there's, uh, there's no real honest broker on, on one side. Um, you know, what the
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Democrats are now proposing is you have a leak in your bathroom and it's just pouring water out on the
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floor. What they're suggesting is that they will help. They'll help. They'll help rebuild the walls.
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They'll help, you know, uh, uh, rebuild the floor. Well, wait, I don't, I, I need help right now
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shutting the water off. That's what we need. Shut the water off. Well, I'm going to make sure that
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everybody can get in there and every, all the kids have boots. I don't want my kids having boots.
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Shut the water off. That's the problem. And you know, it's, we can say that it's for whatever
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reason, but here's the reason the Democrats are doing this. And I'm, I'm convinced of it. I don't
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have, I don't have any evidence except past, uh, and, and past performance, uh, in exactly the same
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situation over in Europe. All of the same people that are saying, open our borders, open our borders,
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open our borders are the ones who said, you got to take on this, all these migrants. You have to
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take them on. You have to take them on. And people like me were saying, you can't take them on. You
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can't just have open immigration. You're going to have all kinds of problems. You're going to have,
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you're going to have more rapes, more violence. Some of these people are good. Some of these people
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aren't good. You're going to get extremists that are coming across your border. You can't do that.
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You're also going to upset all of the people who feel like they're not being listened to.
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So what's happening now in Europe, Europe is being torn apart.
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And what, what are the people in France talking about? What are the people in Germany talking
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about? What are the, what are the people all over Europe talking about in Spain, in Greece,
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direct elections, full democracy, no republics, one man, one vote, full democracy. What are they
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doing here? They're trying to get rid of the electoral college. What, what the left is trying to do
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right now is bring the world to a place to where you have true democracy, which is majority rules.
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Now in Germany, they're afraid because it's the Uber right that is asking for direct democracy.
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Because the, the, the, the right is the one saying, you know, you brought all these migrants in and now
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everything's going to hell and you're telling us to shut up. We can't talk about it. Well, we're tired
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of listening to you. You have the power. You've had it too long and you're, you're trying to shut us up.
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And you're, you're letting all these people in and they're changing Germany, not for the better.
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They're not adding, they're bringing their stuff and then telling us with your help, exactly how we're
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supposed to live. We've had it. So in Germany, the left is very afraid of direct democracy. They're
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trying to stop it. In France, they're not trying to stop it. So what's happening here? Well, we have
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our, our migrant caravans, just like you had the migrant boats going up into Europe. They know this
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destroys a country. They know it. They see it happening now in Europe. That's why they're trying
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to keep our borders open. They know that it will divide us even more. They know that it will cause
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chaos. They know that it causes political unrest. I know that sounds like a crazy charge to make.
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I know that. And I expect everyone on the left and in the media, if they would ever cover anything,
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they would cover that as a crazy conspiracy theory, et cetera, et cetera. But give me another reason.
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Because this is not compassion. What you're doing, chaos is never compassionate. Never.
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You must have triage. If you said, you know what? We got to get rid of triage. Everybody is hurting.
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We got to get rid of triage. That's what they're saying. The United States is the hospital
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and they want to get rid of triage. Just everybody needs to get to a doctor. Well,
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what's that going to do to the hospital? More people will die because of that. More chaos. And
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in chaos, you cannot heal anything. So tell me exactly. Give me a better explanation because
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I don't buy compassion. Chaos, as I have told you for 15 years, is the operative word of the future.
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What do we have going down on the border? Chaos. Anything that encourages chaos, run from.
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Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray
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Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Hello, Pat.
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Hello, Glenn. You have a list of three things that Democrats are very upset about.
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Yes, because they're policy turnarounds by President Trump. Oh, really? Yeah. And so he's
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receiving some pretty heavy criticism because, you know, he was going to attach tariffs on Mexican
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products and he didn't because they complied with what he wanted them to do. Then he was going to
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attack Iran and pulled out of that at the last minute because he had heard that 150 people were
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going to be killed in that attack and he thought it was disproportionate. Then he announced that ICE
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was going to begin deportations this week and he delayed that. And this is causing America to just
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be a laughingstock now. Is it? Is it like a red line in the sand? It is. Yeah. A little bit like that.
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Yeah. And it's a national security issue, in fact, because people just don't know where we stand on
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anything. We know exactly where he stands. I know exactly where he stands. Mexico. Tariffs. It worked.
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Cooperate or I'll give tariffs. They cooperate. No tariffs. The next one. Iran. Iran. The attack.
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We're going to put a stop to this. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. 150
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people that's may not be worth an even exchange for 130 million dollar machine that you would think
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that liberals would love. Would love. Because that shows compassion. That is honestly the best
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message I have heard a president send on any kind of military action. You know, it's either weak
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or it's too strong. This guy is like, look, we could pound you in the sand, but not a single life was
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lost on our side. And so I don't want to do anything that's going to cause you to lose life
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because I don't think that's fair. And I think that's what do they call it? Even response when
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they say it's proportionate proportionate response. That's what they're always at. This is way out of
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proportion. And that's what they would have been saying. Yes. Had we done it? Yes. I actually like
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this this call from the president. And I have to tell you something. I am sick and tired of the press
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wanting it both ways. They were the day before. This guy is reckless. He just wants war. He's just
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rushing into everything. That's what they were saying up until he he changes his mind. Then it's
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he's reckless because nobody knows how to view him. You know, he's he drew a red line in the sand.
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And now what do our allies think? Now what does Iran think? Because they know they can cross that red
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line and not get any punishment. Oh my gosh, I can't take it. I can't take it. There's no way
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he can win. No, there's no way. And what was the third one? The third one was was the ice deportations
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this week. Since when are they for deportation? Since when do they want ice to follow through with
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deportation? Plus, the the other thing that we found out is the acting director of ice said that
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because of the of the leak that they were going to start the deportations, the ice agents would have
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been in danger this week. And they went to Trump and told him that. And he didn't want to put the
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ice agents in danger. And the ice, the acting director of ice says that's why he delayed the
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the deportation move. Because they knew essentially people knew it was coming. Yeah, they knew it was
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coming. There are some, some of them are not maybe people who are just here for a better life. Some
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of them are criminals. So warning them that this is about to happen, probably not the best could have
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been dangerous for them. Right? Yeah. So he delayed it. I mean, even if you don't necessarily
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follow the exact, you know, storyline of the Trump administration, right, where you're, you know,
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like where these things, you know, he makes these big threats, and they always work out. At the very
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least, you have the media knows this dance, right? Trump comes out and he makes a broad, a bold statement
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about some policy. And then he, he use, he's using it, obviously, as a negotiation tactic. And you,
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they all know this, like they act, they take whatever is the worst interpretation of whatever
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he says, and apply it to that moment. So like, okay, it's deportations. Well, he's the worst person
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in the world. He can't, he wants to get rid of all Hispanics. Oh my gosh, this guy's basically Hitler.
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And then he says, all right, I'm not going to do it. And then it's like, well, this guy can't make
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his mind up. What is wrong with him? I mean, I thought we needed these deportations. It's, it's great.
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Almost to the level where they're going to start arguing for the deportations. I love the, I love
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the, the access to where they absolutely are convinced that he's Adolf Hitler with concentration
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camps and he's Adolf Hitler. Look how much he hates immigrants. And yet he's the one going, it's the
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lowest unemployment rate for Hispanics in the history of America. And I, and I remember Adolf Hitler
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saying, it's the lowest unemployment rate for Jews. Yeah. I mean, he didn't say, no,
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that wasn't his priority. Look at what's happening. And they just dismiss all of that. It's, it's,
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it's honestly, it's like fighting with a five-year-old where the five-year-old you're, you,
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you see there, you see what the five-year-old's excuse is going to be. You see exactly what they're
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going to say long before, cause you were five once and, and they keep making this excuse and
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then keep changing their reasons for why it's just eventually like you're five. Okay. I'm not
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even arguing with you anymore. That's where the president just needs to be. I'm just, I'm not
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even arguing with any of you anymore. Cause I think he's there. It's kind of funny. I think,
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I think he's kind of there and, and he, he doesn't really, and he shouldn't care what the Democrats,
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because he's never going to please the Democrats. This, this was a game that George W. Bush kind
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of got caught up in. He, he, he started to try to please the other side of the equation too.
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No, no, no, no. Hang on just a second. It's not that you try to please. It's that you try to appeal
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to the reasonable people on the left, but the people not on the left, but in the democratic party,
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because I tried to do this. Just, I'm not trying to, I'm not going to appease. I'm not going to
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change, but I, I will try to appeal to the reasonable people out there, but the reasonable
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people never stand up. No, they just never stand up. Yeah. So it does no good. It does
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no good appeal to does no good. It didn't do any good for Bush. They hated his guts even more
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when he tried to appeal to him. And the same is true for Trump. He can't win that war.
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The idea that he is the most anti-gay president ever. I'm so sick of this. He's the only pro-gay
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marriage president to ever be elected because every other president, every other president
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was against it when they were first elected. And he wasn't like, because I've run it, I better
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say this. No, no, it was years ago. Years ago. Years. He's always been gay friendly. I don't know
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what you people are talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. I mean,
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obviously the, you know, he's not Elizabeth. Is it Elizabeth Warren that now has come out
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with this? Yes. Reparations for gay people because they didn't get their gay marriage
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ruling fast enough. That's a fascinating one. Uh, but like, you know, this is, there's another
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story that's been going to buy everybody toasters. I don't know. You like a wedding
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presents. Yeah. It's interesting because they didn't get tax breaks all this time. She's
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saying that they should get now the tax breaks from marriage, which has never been something
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the Democrats have ever liked anyway, but apparently, uh, now they do because it applies. I don't
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even know. I can't even understand. This is why I, I am against tax breaks for marriage
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entirely. Oh yeah. Stop it. The government shouldn't be in it. Shouldn't be in it at all. Um, so there's
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this viral video that went around on the left this weekend about how, uh, the Trump administration
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is trying to prevent and arguing a court that, uh, that detained immigrants should not get soap
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or toothpaste because that's not the government's role. And of course this is, this is, this is a
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concentration camp. I mean, even, even in concentration camps, we give soap and toothpaste
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and there's people like coming out and saying, I was detained by Syrians and they gave me toothpaste.
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This is unbelievable. Well, what they don't include in the context of this, this video is of course
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that the Trump administration, the government lawyer now in the Trump administration is arguing
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a case that was brought up in 2015. It's an Obama administration case that it's just continued
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into the Trump administration. And the government's position is not that they should not give soap
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or toothpaste. It's that it's not a specific violation of the Flores agreement. We've talked
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about that before over the years, which is one of the things that set up this idea. So they
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are trying to talk about a very specific legal thing. It gets tossed out there as if it's this
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Trump violation, but the violation actually occurred during Obama doesn't stop every one of your dumb
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friends from sharing it though. With, you know, with the context of the left that has no idea
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that this was an Obama problem. This is not a Trump problem. The Trump argument is coming as a
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continuation of a case that started during the Obama era, but it just doesn't matter. And I don't know,
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like we used to, you, you kind of come up with this. Well, maybe we'll come up with a logical
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reason. And these people will understand that they're being misled, that they'll see the truth,
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that they'll see the facts. And that's no such thing. It just seems hopeless. I mean, they just
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don't care about it. They care about signaling whatever's inside that makes them feel like
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they're superior to your Neanderthal grandpa. Who's that, you know, horrible white conservative that
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we all have such distaste for. And they have this, like, that is the motivation. The motivation is
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never the truth. The motivation isn't for these immigrant families. It's the last thing in the
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world they cared about as evidence that this thing happened during the Obama administration and none
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of them even know it. Like, how could you have clearer evidence that they don't care about these
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immigrant families? They don't care. It's just a little piece of the puzzle to allow them to show
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their friends that they're better than everybody in, let's say, this audience. And that's the goal.
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The goal is not the truth. The goal is not to help a family. The goal is not to protect a woman's
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right. None of these things have anything to do with the reasoning behind it, which is just
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signaling their virtue to everyone else. And that's what's gonna, that's, that eventually just comes
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undone. That just eventually comes undone. I have a, I have a, something I, I got from the New York
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Times, the Daily. Uh, they sent a reporter over to, uh, Germany because they're now, uh, in Germany
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looking for direct democracy. And that just goes to mob rule. That's just majority rules. And, uh,
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do they not understand that? Do they not know that? Uh, we, we, we went over to Germany to talk to some
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of these radicals that are trying to get majority rules. Oh, you will not believe this. I'm, I'm
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listening to it and I'm thinking these people are so stupid or so dishonest. I'm not sure which one
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it is. Is there a combination of the two that could be at play here? Could be, could be just so stupid
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that they don't see. And, and, and, and at one point the guys are like the, the, the New York
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Times reporter is saying, well, uh, what about, uh, the death penalty that this is very controversial
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in, uh, Germany death penalty. Uh, if you're against it, apparently because of Hitler, nobody's
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for the death penalty over there. So they took the most crazy thing that everyone is for. Okay. No
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death penalty and said, what happens if people just voted for, uh, uh, the death penalty and the guy
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from the group that wants, you know, direct democracy said, well, that's ridiculous. We'd
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never do that. And then the New York times is like, well, how do you know that they wouldn't do
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that? I mean, are you, you're saying that you understand your group so much that they will
00:25:22.780
never go that way. Cause remember, once you have majority rule, the majority could rule on anything
00:25:29.860
and you can't, you can't, uh, necessarily stop it. Then you won't be. Hello. Hello. Isn't that what
00:25:39.100
you're doing here in America? Yeah. But our side wouldn't be crazy. Oh, okay. It's really nuts.
00:25:48.180
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00:26:15.320
Let me get to, uh, Joe Biden. Uh, here's some, uh, audio of, uh, of Joe Biden, uh, saying that
00:26:24.200
the Donald Trump election night was a little like something else in history. Listen,
00:26:29.680
people get out of jail. The idea, we give them 25 bucks and a buck, a bus ticket to go under a
00:26:34.560
bridge. So they, but they don't qualify for public housing. They don't qualify for food. They don't
00:26:38.800
qualify for, for, uh, um, Pell grants. That's crazy. We should be doing the opposite. You know,
00:26:44.620
Rev, you've been calling and I've been calling for a long time. There should be job training in
00:26:48.300
prisons, not training people how to be criminals. There's so much we can do and it's within our capacity
00:26:53.560
to do it. That's the interesting thing. And I think what's happening now, as I think that, uh,
00:26:59.560
Donald Trump may have reawakened the sensibilities in this country to say, whoa, maybe we can do this
00:27:06.960
now. Just like our generation was awakened when Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated. A lot,
00:27:12.120
whole generation said, I'm back in, man. These millennials, they get it, right? Yeah. And now
00:27:16.960
they want to get in. They get it, man. They get it. These millennials, they get it, man. Wow, man.
00:27:24.920
It's like when our generation, man, woke up, man, you know, man. Cause I, I really hate the,
00:27:33.960
you know, the argument that you should get in trouble for comparing things. Like they'll always be
00:27:39.340
like, Oh, you know, going back compares, you know, Nancy Pelosi to Nazis and like, and you'll be like,
00:27:45.940
okay. And you're like, well, what's, what did he say? And he said, well, I don't think that you
00:27:50.480
should have this policy because you know, one of the reasons why, I mean, this has happened before,
00:27:54.060
like this is the first step down this road and, and we shouldn't go down the road anywhere near
00:27:58.340
these things. And, you know, like, like you're making an analogy. And of course, when you're making
00:28:03.660
a point, right, one of the things you do is go to the most extreme level of that, right? Like it's
00:28:08.020
to set the precedent that the argument is theoretically possible, right? Like, you know,
00:28:13.180
if you were to say, well, I don't want any government intervention, right? I never want war. Well,
00:28:16.840
what about world war two? Right. That doesn't mean you're comparing whatever conflict you're talking
00:28:20.700
about now to world war two. You're trying to set the precedent that in theory, you might be for war
00:28:24.900
actually. Right. And I, so I usually hate that argument here though. He really is just comparing it.
00:28:30.240
He's saying there are certain things in our history that get people started and this should
00:28:36.740
be considered on the same level, right? He's saying people, people are going to assassination.
00:28:40.960
Now think of this, think of this. My, my father told me, I asked him one time,
00:28:45.440
what were the 1960s like that? And he said, well, they were different because the vast majority of
00:28:53.220
people were still, you know, on a sane side. And so we kind of all stood around watching our
00:29:00.160
television sets going, this is crazy. What's happening to our country. Um, he said, it wasn't,
00:29:06.180
it wasn't as universal, uh, as it looked now he's giving a Pacific Northwest kind of analogy for him,
00:29:13.420
uh, which didn't have a lot of, a lot of that. Um, but he, he even talked about, he said, when
00:29:20.360
Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King were shot and Malcolm X, he said, we thought the whole world
00:29:25.820
was coming undone. He said, it just felt like everything was coming undone. Now he's just put
00:29:33.260
the assassination of Martin Luther King, the civil rights icon and Robert Kennedy, another icon,
00:29:46.560
the assassination of those two into the same category as Donald Trump winning an election
00:29:56.000
as saying, that's as shocking. And it shocked the system. Do you really think that it was as
00:30:05.720
shocking as Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy's assassination? And by the way, what did those
00:30:13.160
assassinations do? Between that and what happened at Candlestick Park? Uh, the left kind of fell apart.
00:30:21.540
The left kind of fell apart. It was kind of the beginning of the end of the radicalized movement
00:30:28.940
because people had had enough. It had enough. So is, are you implying that when you woke up,
00:30:38.760
because what he's saying is people woke up to that and they decided to stand up, be more active,
00:30:43.760
be more active. No, actually normal people stood up and said, yeah, okay, we got to stop this. This
00:30:53.220
is, this is craziness. What's going on. The civil rights act was already moving forward. The civil
00:30:59.160
rights act was done in 1964. So we had already moved that, that barrier. We were moving forward.
00:31:06.560
And the people led the politicians on that as well. Correct. Correct. And it didn't take the
00:31:11.000
assassination of Martin Luther King or Robert Kennedy. That happened four years before they
00:31:16.500
started shooting people. I mean, the best version of his point is essentially you get to this idea
00:31:22.020
that things are good racially, right? And things are fine. And then there's an assassination and
00:31:28.420
you're like, wow, people really do hate, you know, minority figures. And then you have another
00:31:33.540
assassination. People really do hate, uh, other people. And then this is kind of what I think
00:31:38.000
he's saying, which is we got lulled into sleep by the wonderful Obama years. And this is coming
00:31:44.180
from Joe Biden. Um, and then we realized that, oh, wow, we haven't passed these race issues. Donald
00:31:49.700
Trump got elected. And so we need to get active again. Of course we had, you know, we, and we pointed
00:31:55.800
this out at the time, the Obama election came at a time where I think we had really had moved
00:32:05.200
past a lot of those things. Not because of Obama's election, because people don't care. People
00:32:09.360
don't care what your stupid skin, your skin color, who cares? Like how anyone could make
00:32:13.940
a decision based on that. And anyway, by the way, that includes, um, things like affirmative
00:32:19.440
action and all of these other things, but you don't make, uh, you don't make decisions
00:32:23.980
based on skin color. Thought it was something we all agreed on. And then Obama gets into
00:32:28.300
office and it's the constant focus. He's constantly highlighting racial divides. He spends eight
00:32:35.760
years telling us how much white people hate black people when I, I don't know. I mean, I'm not
00:32:41.460
saying there's no racism. Of course there is, but like generally speaking, I mean, uh, you
00:32:45.740
know, I don't have, I mean, I don't see it and I should see it. I'm in, I'm a conservative
00:32:51.060
in Texas. Shouldn't I see racism all the time? And you know, you talk to, uh, we have David
00:32:55.740
Harris on, on, uh, uh, news and why it matters today. And he made this point yesterday. It's
00:33:00.080
like, we're not victims here. He's African-American. If you don't know him and he's like, we stop
00:33:04.180
calling us victims. Stop making us out to be victims. We don't need reparations from
00:33:08.660
you. We need to be able to do the things that we want to do. We need to be able to live
00:33:12.800
our lives without your involvement in them. If we don't want your involvement in them, we
00:33:16.680
don't need the government getting in our way. And you know, that is, I think where
00:33:20.960
the average African-American is right. Like we want to be able to do our thing stops, you
00:33:26.900
know, getting in our way. And yet this is constantly highlighted by the media. It is
00:33:31.460
like, as if the only thing that anyone cares about are racial divides to the point that even
00:33:37.020
Joe Biden is on the wrong side of it on the democratic party, that even Pete Buttigieg is on
00:33:41.860
the wrong side of it. You can't even be a liberal white person who says every single
00:33:48.400
one of these arguments is true and, uh, and push for basically reparations. That's not
00:33:55.900
even enough. There's nothing that's enough. And that's the lesson here is like, you
00:33:59.480
can't, these are the, the, the extreme elements of these movements are not able to be reasoned
00:34:04.720
with them. Wow. That monologue was almost, I feel like we just witnessed the
00:34:09.320
crucifixion, crucifixion of Jesus Christ there. I don't know. That hatred was just crazy. I
00:34:15.960
think you'll see the results of, of that as the storm clouds gather.
00:34:26.480
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iTunes. Thanks. Mr. Aaron Watson is joining us now in case you don't know, uh, Aaron and you're a
00:34:55.120
country music fan. Where have you been? Aaron Watson is the most successful independent artist.
00:35:02.440
I think of any genre of all time. Definitely. I like that. I like this. I'll go with that. Yeah.
00:35:08.940
Is it just country or is it any? I like the, I like just saying any genre. That sounds so much
00:35:14.540
better. Doesn't it? Doesn't it? You could throw worldwide. Yeah. Worldwide. Universal. I don't
00:35:20.000
know. Yeah. I think, but I think you are. Thank you. I think you are. It's good to see you. Good to
00:35:24.440
see you. Thanks for having me. You've been working hard getting this, uh, new CD ready. It's called
00:35:29.100
red bandana. Yes, sir. And, uh, I listened to all of it. I, I called you what? Four weeks ago. Yes. Yeah.
00:35:36.140
You released a couple of songs. I used to be a program director of music stations. Uh, and,
00:35:43.000
um, I, I was fairly good at picking, uh, hits. Uh, I don't know if I could do that anymore,
00:35:50.300
but I heard a song on this, uh, CD when you only replaced, you know, they only released
00:35:56.060
a couple. Uh, I think it's called kiss that girl. Goodbye. Yeah. I think it is a smash.
00:36:03.760
Thank you. If people will play it on radio, if they'll play it, it's a smash. Thank you.
00:36:09.220
Can we play just a little bit of, uh, kiss, kiss that girl. Goodbye.
00:36:12.620
Well, it's pretty much understood. Rainy days are just no good for leave and no need mixing misery
00:36:29.620
and jam. So it goes for icy days, heartache, slick highways. No time to wait. You're gonna break
00:36:36.980
if you bend and bend again. But a fresh new start will warm your heart like the sun breaking
00:36:44.340
through a cloudy sky. If ever was a good day, it's today. That boy, kiss that girl. Goodbye.
00:36:52.480
Just like a red-eyed flight. Two taillights in the night. Gonna spread the wings and fly.
00:36:58.120
That boy, kiss that girl. Goodbye. Just like a westbound train. You're drinking cheap champagne.
00:37:04.360
Got no more tears to cry. You're long gone like a whisper in the wind. That boy, kiss that
00:37:11.700
girl. Goodbye. That is, that is, that is the hook of the year. Thank you. I mean, that
00:37:17.640
is amazing. Great. You know, my, my daughter, she's nine. And when she was listening to the
00:37:22.400
album, I said, girl, what do you think the first single should be? And she was like, um,
00:37:27.300
kiss that girl goodbye. So she was in that girl. She's right. Oh, she's absolutely right. You'll
00:37:34.640
sing that all day. I heard that the first time I, my wife and I were in the car driving
00:37:39.720
and we must've played it six times in a row. I love it. I love it. It was just great. You
00:37:43.440
know, it, I've had, I had so much fun making this album. I really feel like as a songwriter,
00:37:48.660
I'm catching my stride. I think so too. And I poured my heart into all 20 of these songs.
00:37:54.380
Some of them are lighthearted like that one right there. That's lighthearted. It's fun.
00:37:58.800
There's may I just say, first of all, you're the first person to put 20 songs on a CD all
00:38:05.200
penned by you since Alan Jackson Jackson. Yeah. Okay. So nobody does this. This is, I'm a fan of
00:38:13.420
yours. I listened to your albums. I know you've, you've been around forever, so I don't know
00:38:18.240
necessarily all your old stuff, but I know your last four. Yeah. This is different somehow. This
00:38:24.860
one's different and I think better. I think it's your best one yet. Thank you. Um, but I noticed
00:38:30.160
that there is, there's two, there's two sides to this. Yeah. Uh, one is, uh, one is just fun,
00:38:37.680
just fun, lots of fun stuff. And others are really deeply feel personal and heartfelt,
00:38:46.600
even a different sound in, in some ways. Am I right? You're right. You're right. What happened?
00:38:53.600
I think as I've gotten older, I'm, I'm more confident letting people know that I don't have
00:39:01.560
it all together. And, um, can we go to a song? Cause you just said, let me see. It is trying
00:39:09.220
like the devil. Yeah. Let me just, let me just play a little bit of this and I want you to
00:39:14.560
listen to the lyrics because I think it's, I don't know what you were thinking, but it's
00:39:22.820
Well, that golden halo doesn't go so well with my red bandana and blue jeans.
00:39:33.740
God knows when I'm good, I'm good. And when I'm good is seldom. So it seems.
00:39:41.580
So they say fools play with fire. I'm trying my best to not get burned.
00:39:47.580
While I soak myself in gasoline, one more thing. By now I might have learned, but I've never
00:39:57.240
learned. No, I'm not the man they think I am. It weighs heavy on my heart and mind.
00:40:06.880
Yes, I stumble every step along the way. Like a one-oh who can't walk the line.
00:40:12.800
So what were you thinking when you're writing this? Why did you, this is a, you know, the
00:40:36.620
next verse goes, so beware of broken glass. Should you stare into the window of my soul
00:40:43.600
and judge me not? I only bear it all. So, you know, that you are not alone. And I think everybody,
00:40:52.820
my wife, she's amazing. She's the closest thing to perfect that I know. She never gets mad.
00:41:04.560
You've never loaded the dishwasher then? Well, because I've, every time I load the
00:41:09.620
dishwasher, I get a harsh word. That's not the way you don't put this on the bottom and
00:41:14.360
you don't put this on the top. Yes. That, okay. All right. Excluding that. All right. Okay.
00:41:18.480
I thought that was just assumed with every man. All right. Good. I thought so too, but I
00:41:22.380
thought maybe she was the freak in the, the unicorn, the unicorn. Right. Um, I wanted to write
00:41:29.520
a song. I don't know if I was feeling depressed. I don't know if I was tired, but I I'm, I'm
00:41:40.260
very much, I like to write how I feel. And I've always been like that, but I've only shared
00:41:46.340
usually the positive moments on albums. And I think that's in some ways taken the heart
00:41:52.280
out of some of my earlier albums. This, this song, trying like the devil. Um, there was
00:41:59.860
a local boy who committed suicide. He was one week away from becoming an Eagle scout and
00:42:07.600
his, everyone just said they never knew that this boy was experiencing such pain, pain. And
00:42:15.520
his dad put something on Facebook that just said, I wish people would be more, uh, open
00:42:20.920
and honest about their struggles. I wish celebrities and singers would, would, would be more, would
00:42:28.860
be more honest on social media, not just put forth this fake, perfect imagery, you know?
00:42:37.720
And, and I wrote that song because I was like, you know what? People need to understand that
00:42:41.840
like, I try to be a good husband and I try to be a good dad, but I fall short, but I keep
00:42:52.540
trying. And I think that's the biggest thing is you've got to keep trying. And I put this
00:42:57.580
song out and then two weeks ago we played the Grand Ole Opry and a, a soldier, uh, and he
00:43:05.760
and his wife came to see me play and he said he struggled with PTSD and he has had, uh, he
00:43:11.700
he said, I have suicidal tendencies is what he said. And he said this song, trying like
00:43:16.300
the devil. I listened to it every morning and it gets me in the right frame of mind
00:43:21.800
that like, it's okay. I'm not alone in this. Cause I think that's what I think we all want
00:43:28.260
to be viewed as something spectacular and we all want to, we want everyone to know that
00:43:33.860
we have it all together. But I think, but we don't. And I think being honest and going,
00:43:40.020
you know what? I don't have it all together. I, you know, when people are like, you know,
00:43:45.400
you know, you're Aaron, you're a Christian, you have it all together. I'll go, first of
00:43:48.540
all, I am so messed up that I need Jesus more than most. So let's just set, let's set the
00:43:54.840
bar really low for me. But I poured my heart into this record and there's, there's lighthearted
00:44:00.860
moments, but then there's moments where it's like, I need to be honest with my fans.
00:44:06.700
I need to share my heart with them. They deserve that. They deserve something that's real. If it's
00:44:11.980
truly going to be music with meaning, then it needs to be the whole heart.
00:44:16.640
We're back with, uh, uh, Aaron Watson. Do you want to, do you want to explain this song first
00:44:22.440
I'll explain it. Uh, the songs call 58 and it's a tribute to, uh, the 58 men and women
00:44:30.340
that were killed at the, um, route 91 festival in Las Vegas. Um, a few years back, we played
00:44:39.000
that fifth festival, uh, the year before the shooting. And, um, I was home that night, that
00:44:48.360
Sunday when I heard about the shooting and I had friends there and, uh, just heartbreaking.
00:44:54.780
And then a few months later we played national finals rodeo back in Vegas. And some of the,
00:45:01.280
some of the people who had been injured came out to my show. And of course you and I've talked
00:45:06.900
about this. I have that, I have that song blue bonnets that I wrote about my daughter,
00:45:11.800
Julia, that my wife and I lost. And this person who had been injured at the festival who also
00:45:17.700
lost a friend there. Um, she said, your song blue bonnets has really helped me. She goes,
00:45:25.760
I really wish you would write a song for the victims and their families. And I said, okay.
00:45:32.200
And I thought about like, gosh, how do you write a song like that? But then the next day
00:45:36.880
I woke up with some, with an idea of this, this song that could be called 58. That would
00:45:42.940
be short, meaningful, and only be 58 seconds long. Just, I wanted to end the record, letting
00:45:51.540
those people, those families know that like, we still remember them. We're still thinking
00:45:57.980
Listen to this 58 seconds long. It's called 58.
00:46:01.040
58, lost their lives. Mothers and fathers, husbands and wives. 58, every daughter and son left a
00:46:23.640
long trail of tears, a long 91. 58, got wings way too soon. Waltzing across stars and moon. 58, angels
00:46:44.640
singing along forever missed. This is your song.
00:46:54.940
Your album is, uh, the, the album by the way is red bandana. Um, and, and his name is Aaron Watson.
00:47:01.540
And it is, it's, it's a great, if you like Aaron Watson, this is the best he's done, I think.
00:47:07.740
Thank you. Uh, and, uh, we're having him on because radio, uh, doesn't play Aaron Watson
00:47:14.940
very often because, uh, he doesn't have a record label. And so he's kind of the guy who
00:47:21.460
wouldn't change, wouldn't wear the skinny jeans and wouldn't sing the songs that somebody else
00:47:27.240
wrote. He said like, I know I'd rather just play in a, I'd rather play in a honky tonk someplace,
00:47:31.260
uh, then, you know, get rich and get famous playing somebody else's songs. Uh, and you
00:47:37.880
kind of address this in the song dark horses, which you've addressed before, but it's different
00:47:44.640
this time. It's not about you. Well, you had a big influence on the direction of this album.
00:47:51.120
And I've told you a little bit about this. Well, we had dinner, we had dinner and I had told you
00:47:57.000
about what I was thinking and you said, Aaron, I get it. You're the underdog. You're an unsigned
00:48:03.180
artist. You're independent. You know, because I'm independent, it's difficult for me to get played
00:48:07.840
on mainstream radio. Now we've had some top 40 hits, but it is, it is difficult. Um, you know,
00:48:14.560
we don't get nominated for awards because I'm independent. It just, it just is what it is. And
00:48:18.980
I'm okay with that. So there is that underdog mentality that I always kind of have to embrace,
00:48:25.220
but you said, listen, you've charted albums. Number one, you you've, you've done things
00:48:30.160
that have never been done before. You know, you are, you are the, you said, I think you
00:48:36.160
said you are like the people's champ. You're showing them that despite the industry telling
00:48:44.200
you, you can't, you're proving them wrong. And you were like, you need to write songs that
00:48:49.680
inspire these people that, that don't talk about how difficult it is for you.
00:48:55.220
You're doing, you're living the dream. You're defying gravity, show these people, inspire
00:49:00.960
these people. That's why they support you is because they believe in you.
00:49:05.240
I have no recollection of saying that I might've been hammered, uh, even though I'm an alcoholic,
00:49:09.660
but I don't remember saying that, but I, uh, I will tell you when I heard dark horses,
00:49:15.620
I cheered because I thought this is a kind of song that everybody needs to hear the lyrics.
00:49:23.720
This is the one we're kicking off the show to the new show. This is like, this song goes
00:49:29.340
out to everyone who's dreaming. It's like, get out there, work your butt off, earn it. Don't
00:49:35.720
give up. If you know what, get ready. They're going to tell you you're not good enough. Get
00:49:40.500
ready. You may not get into the college you want. You may not get this that you want right
00:49:45.700
off the bat. Whatever your dream is, you need to get ready because it's not going to be easy.
00:49:51.320
Get ready and get out there and work hard. Listen, listen to dark horse.
00:49:57.700
Yeah. This one goes out to the dreamer. Always out there Raymond. Hi, don't you let them clip
00:50:02.640
your wings. I'll say that you can't fly. This one goes out to the loser losing time and time again
00:50:08.380
and time again keeps on believing that someday they're going to win. When nobody knows your name,
00:50:14.140
nobody knows your face. Everybody counts you out long before you start that race. You can let
00:50:19.760
them place their bets. Let them laugh and drink their wine. Let them eat their words when you're
00:50:24.320
first to the finish line. There's your day in the sun. You're rolling like a young gun. Now it's your time
00:50:31.380
to ride. Let your dark horse run. They can't measure your heart. They can't tear you apart.
00:50:37.320
You'll finally catch in your stride. Let your dark horse run. Through the fire. Far the wire. You're a
00:50:44.100
runway train. There's no turning back. This one goes out to the girls. Go show the world you can. Never
00:50:50.960
let them hold you back just because you want a man. This one goes out to those underdogs who aren't afraid
00:50:56.860
to bite. Change your game. Break the chain. Get off that porch and fight. So change your day in the sun.
00:51:03.620
You're rolling like a young gun. Now it's your time to ride. Let your dark horse run. They can't measure
00:51:09.820
your heart. They can't tear you apart. You'll finally catch in your stride. Let your dark horse run.
00:51:16.060
Through the fire. Far the wire. You're a runway train. There's no turning back. Let your dark horse run.
00:51:22.700
This is from the new CD that is out. It's called Red Bandana by Aaron Watson. It is... I don't know if
00:51:32.300
I'm the only one that feels this way, but there are albums that I will always associate with summer.
00:51:37.120
Yeah. There are things that I will always associate with summer when you had the windows down and you've
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got the stereo cranked and you're just singing at the top of your lungs because no one can hear you.
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Yeah. That's this kind of album. Man, that is a great compliment. I wanted this to be something
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that people could enjoy. It's cinematic. It is. I actually thought that. I did crazy things like
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I recorded my grandmother's wind chimes. I recorded the train that passes by the ranch.
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I recorded my dad's AM fuzz radio. Hang on. More on that.