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00:00:00.000 Hey, it's Stu in for Glenn Beck, and today we dive into the latest controversy with Donald Trump.

00:00:05.120 Is he a racist for talking about a city?

00:00:07.820 Apparently, that's the way it's supposed to work now. 0.98

00:00:09.880 When you talk about Baltimore, you are a racist. 0.98

00:00:11.900 We'll get into that and all the media hypocrisy surrounding it. 0.97

00:00:16.160 We will also dive into the budget, first starting with how it seems like the Tea Party's kind of dead and does not care.

00:00:23.780 It seems like nobody cares about budgets anymore.

00:00:25.500 And then we end it with a little piece of candy as we talk about how much worse it will be if someone like Kamala Harris or Bernie Sanders get elected.

00:00:34.700 I believe in Brian Riedel's word from the Manhattan Institute, it's almost incalculable how large the numbers get.

00:00:42.780 We have Pat Gray who stops by, Jeff Fisher who stops by, and we tell you an incredible story about a model who was critical of transgendered people.

00:00:54.020 got fired, and it only gets weirder from there.

00:00:58.020 It's all today on the podcast.

00:01:06.020 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:10.000 You know, I try not to be too demanding.

00:01:17.940 I try not to ask for too much in life because it's hard.

00:01:21.800 But today, I think I have what I at least imagine is a simple request for the media.

00:01:28.120 A simple, basic request.

00:01:31.080 I'm not going too far.

00:01:32.780 I'm not asking for too much.

00:01:34.500 But I would like you to at least try to explain why Trump's Baltimore comments were racist.

00:01:44.600 I'm not asking you to convince me.

00:01:46.900 I'm not asking you to come up with an airtight case.

00:01:51.840 I'm not asking you to produce tapes that show Donald Trump talking about Baltimore in some racist way.

00:01:58.580 I'm not asking for any of that.

00:02:00.380 I'm not asking you for pictures of Donald Trump in a hood.

00:02:03.720 I'm not asking you for him burning a cross on somebody's lawn.

00:02:07.640 I'm asking you to at least attempt to explain why these comments are racist.

00:02:14.800 Not just put it in the story and say Trump's racist tweets about Baltimore.

00:02:18.480 I mean an actual attempt at explaining one time why these tweets and comments were racist.

00:02:30.460 Because that has not even been attempted from what I've seen from the media this weekend.

00:02:36.360 We're talking about an accusation of racism here.

00:02:39.220 Okay?

00:02:39.480 Racism, we all know, really, really bad.

00:02:41.340 We don't like it at all.

00:02:42.540 Okay?

00:02:42.780 It's one of the most serious accusations you can make about another person, right?

00:02:45.960 It's like the most serious thing you can say about someone, this side of child molester.

00:02:52.560 Okay?

00:02:53.080 We're talking about racism.

00:02:54.540 When you say that, you should probably have at least some sort of justification as to why.

00:03:00.180 The nearest I can take from the media right now is, number one, Trump's comments were about Elijah Cummings.

00:03:06.880 And Elijah Cummings is black.

00:03:08.820 Well, that is not evidence of racism.

00:03:11.180 Okay?

00:03:11.360 Number two, black people live in Baltimore. 0.96

00:03:16.260 Not all black people. 0.99

00:03:17.680 It's not 100% of black people live in Baltimore.

00:03:19.960 And it's not 100% of the population is black.

00:03:21.840 But there are some black people who live in Baltimore.

00:03:24.880 So the fact that they have a black representative and there are some black people who live in Baltimore, 0.98

00:03:29.660 apparently enough to conclude that Donald Trump is a racist. 0.99

00:03:34.020 It's enough for us to conclude that this guy is one of the worst things we can all possibly imagine. 0.96

00:03:41.780 In case you missed the tweets that came from, you know, late this weekend, 0.89

00:03:47.060 Elijah Cummings has been a brutal bully shouting and screaming at the great men and women of Border Patrol

00:03:51.740 about conditions at the southern border. 0.91

00:03:53.740 When actually, his Baltimore district is far worse and more dangerous.

00:03:58.200 His district is considered the worst in the USA. 0.99

00:04:00.900 Trump went on to say his Cummings district is a disgusting rat and rodent infested mess. 0.93

00:04:10.420 If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous and filthy place. 0.96

00:04:18.840 If you're going to accuse someone of racism, it is on you to give the evidence as to why it's racist.

00:04:25.720 It's not on Trump to have to disprove your claim of racism.

00:04:28.700 It's on you to have to prove it.

00:04:30.900 When you accuse someone of what is essentially a crime in today's society,

00:04:34.960 you have to be able to back it up with some level of evidence.

00:04:40.720 So we're going to come back and go through these comments step by step.

00:04:45.940 I want to know, will the media even take the time to attempt to explain it?

00:04:52.160 Because right now, they're just putting it in the headlines.

00:04:57.200 Trump tweets racist things about Cummings.

00:05:00.220 Trump tweets racist things about Baltimore.

00:05:02.980 Why are they racist?

00:05:07.140 Are you going to try to explain it?

00:05:11.720 We're going to break this down in 60 seconds.

00:05:14.420 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:05:19.660 It's Stu in for Glenn, who's on vacation this week.

00:05:22.700 So the case for racism in Donald Trump.

00:05:26.340 What is it? 0.93

00:05:28.380 Number one, I guess it's that Elijah Cummings is black.

00:05:33.580 And whenever Trump criticizes someone who isn't white, the motivation is always assumed to be race.

00:05:42.700 He can't criticize anyone else without racism being the sort of core of it.

00:05:51.020 And what's fascinating about that is we're essentially creating a standard in which a black congressperson cannot be criticized.

00:05:57.900 That is an amazing superpower.

00:06:01.600 If you're in Congress, man, you want that.

00:06:04.220 Immunity by skin color. 0.80

00:06:06.120 That is something that every congressperson could use.

00:06:10.280 If you're a congressman and you can say whatever you want, you can do as good or as bad a job as you want.

00:06:16.680 You can blow every assignment you have. 0.93

00:06:19.000 But if you happen to be black, the president of the United States can't say anything bad about you because it's automatically race.

00:06:25.340 Is that a standard you're comfortable with?

00:06:30.500 I don't even understand.

00:06:32.020 If you read the tweets, you go back and look at it.

00:06:34.920 Donald Trump doesn't even allude to race in any of them.

00:06:40.200 You are not only assuming his intent to be race, but also inserting race into the conversation where it didn't exist.

00:06:50.760 At no point did he say anything about race.

00:06:55.340 Is it racist simply because he used the word Baltimore?

00:07:02.320 Is that really where we are?

00:07:05.200 I know it was racist if you brought up Chicago when Barack Obama was president.

00:07:10.540 Now it's racist if you just say Baltimore?

00:07:13.740 The country you live in is accepting that as a standard?

00:07:20.720 Referencing a city is now racist? 0.82

00:07:27.880 Is it racist because some of the residents of Baltimore are black? 0.70

00:07:33.380 That's what makes it racist? 0.95

00:07:36.900 Because some people who live there are black? 0.99

00:07:41.800 This is completely insane. 0.98

00:07:43.880 You do realize that? 0.98

00:07:45.560 The media has come to this place where they have built this long-form sort of case over multiple years that Donald Trump is a racist.

00:07:55.500 So therefore, they are now free to apply it to any story.

00:08:01.080 They are free to say he is motivated by racism whenever they want.

00:08:06.860 Of course, to engage in this sort of nonsense, you have to ignore something that everyone in America knows.

00:08:20.340 Everyone who lives here knows the truth about what we're looking at here with Donald Trump and his tweets.

00:08:27.540 Which is, Donald Trump says bad things about people who say bad things about him.

00:08:38.380 That's what he does.

00:08:40.160 This is not a freaking sixth sense type of plot twist.

00:08:44.580 The guy, when he gets pissed off at you, says bad things about you.

00:08:49.760 It is absolutely known.

00:08:52.020 So if you are going to say something is racism, it is on you to explain why every time he has someone say something bad about him, he attacks them regardless of their race.

00:09:09.660 It is up to you to explain and whittle this one out for us as to why when he attacks a person of color, you assume every single time it's race.

00:09:19.860 Every time he does it to a white person, you just assign his motives to something else.

00:09:25.280 But every time it's not a white person, you say it's race.

00:09:28.740 That is not analysis, and it's certainly not journalism. 0.95

00:09:33.280 I mean, it's one thing for a Rachel Maddow to go on television and say, well, Donald Trump's a racist, and I think he's a racist because Baltimore has black people who live in it.

00:09:41.520 I mean, that's not good analysis, but at least it's someone giving an opinion.

00:09:45.240 We're talking about journalists who are going on television and saying you are not a good journalist if you don't say it's racist without any qualifiers.

00:09:55.000 You can't say that there's racial tension around the comments.

00:09:58.060 You can't say they're racially tinged.

00:10:00.120 You have to say the man is a racist. 0.98

00:10:02.640 You know it. 0.96

00:10:04.160 You've journalistically discovered it.

00:10:07.220 You have somehow been able to dive into this guy's brain, and despite the fact that he didn't reference race in any way...

00:10:15.240 You are able to decipher that he is motivated solely by race.

00:10:25.320 Some of these places that are saying this have very clear information to know that it's not true.

00:10:33.980 For example, the New York Times has an actual running list of all of the people Donald Trump has insulted since he kind of got back into the swing of politics here in the past few years.

00:10:48.940 598 individuals and organizations which Donald Trump has insulted in some cases dozens of times each.

00:10:56.880 Why are so many of them white? 1.00

00:11:02.700 This guy is the crappiest racist I've ever seen. 1.00

00:11:06.780 He can't even figure out how to only insult black people. 1.00

00:11:12.740 What do they all have in common? 0.64

00:11:16.040 And what do they all have in common?

00:11:17.420 They've all said bad things about Donald Trump.

00:11:19.300 When you say something bad about Donald Trump, Donald Trump responds, and he says bad things about you.

00:11:25.600 I mean, just go through the A's of this list.

00:11:27.540 Jim Acosta.

00:11:29.560 White, right? 0.97

00:11:30.540 I'm pretty sure he was white when Donald Trump called him crazy. 0.99

00:11:35.120 General John Allen. 0.98

00:11:37.360 Pretty sure he was white when Donald Trump said he failed badly.

00:11:41.520 Anderson Cooper. 0.98

00:11:43.120 Pretty sure he was white when he called him a waste. 0.94

00:11:46.060 Michael Avenatti. 1.00

00:11:49.280 Pretty sure he was white when he called him a total loser. 0.98

00:11:53.780 But Stacey Abrams is in the A's too. 0.99

00:11:57.320 He called her totally unqualified because she was black. 1.00

00:12:03.920 This is what you have to believe. 0.84

00:12:06.500 How about the letter O?

00:12:09.920 Tim O'Brien.

00:12:11.800 A white writer for Bloomberg. 1.00

00:12:15.040 Is dumb. 1.00

00:12:16.620 Really stupid. 1.00

00:12:18.540 And dopey. 1.00

00:12:21.080 I don't know. 0.99

00:12:22.000 Maybe he didn't think he was white.

00:12:25.460 The words he types are black, you know.

00:12:29.280 How about Claire O'Connor at Forbes? 0.98

00:12:31.820 Was she white when Trump called her a dummy?

00:12:34.980 How about Danny O'Connor, who was, I think, running for Congress? 0.99

00:12:40.140 Was he white when he called him weak and a puppet? 0.94

00:12:43.860 Pretty sure he was. 0.98

00:12:44.700 Lawrence O'Donnell from MSNBC. 1.00

00:12:47.440 Was he white when Donald Trump called him a fool, dopey, and one of the dumber people on television? 1.00

00:12:55.060 Oh, yes, those were all white. 1.00

00:12:58.700 But I can tell you this.

00:12:59.940 When he insulted Elon Omar, that was racist. 0.95

00:13:05.880 He only did that because she was black. 1.00

00:13:07.940 Not because she's been out there calling him terrible names and accusing him of all sorts of terrible things for years. 0.99

00:13:13.640 It's because she was black. 0.99

00:13:16.280 This is nonsense, and they all must know it. 0.99

00:13:23.700 Right? 0.85

00:13:24.820 They all must know this.

00:13:26.740 We're all wildly aware of these issues.

00:13:31.800 Are we not? 1.00

00:13:33.980 Donald Trump, when you're a jerk to Donald Trump, he's a jerk to you. 1.00

00:13:37.280 When you're nice to Donald Trump, he's nice to you. 1.00

00:13:39.540 Do we not know this?

00:13:44.120 The guy, you know what would happen if Elijah Cummings came out tomorrow and said, you know what?

00:13:49.140 Donald Trump should be the next head on Mount Rushmore because he's the greatest president that has ever lived.

00:13:56.060 He would love Elijah Cummings.

00:13:59.300 He would say great things about Elijah Cummings starting tomorrow if Elijah Cummings started saying nice things about him and he thought they were legitimate.

00:14:09.380 He thought they—I don't even know if you need to say.

00:14:12.020 You don't even know if they have to be believable.

00:14:14.580 Elijah Cummings, if he reversed himself today, Donald Trump would reverse himself tomorrow.

00:14:19.320 Guys, the guy—the guy did this with Kim Jong-un.

00:14:26.060 He is saying currently nice things about a North Korean dictator.

00:14:33.320 This is not rocket science.

00:14:36.020 This is not elite-level physics.

00:14:39.040 When he says something bad about you, it's likely because you said something bad about him.

00:14:44.900 It doesn't matter what color you are.

00:14:47.000 It has nothing to do with race.

00:14:51.440 Nothing.

00:14:51.920 And if you're going to say, like, you look at the actual comments he made that don't have anything to do with race, you have to ask yourself, can the criticism be applied to, let's say, a white person?

00:15:06.240 Can it?

00:15:07.220 You know, if he says, oh, well, this is—what did he say?

00:15:10.640 He said the state place was filthy.

00:15:12.560 He said the place was dangerous.

00:15:15.420 Dangerous. 0.97

00:15:16.540 I mean, can that be applied—can filthy be applied to a white person? 0.99

00:15:19.480 First of all, I give you Pigpen, who absolutely was white and was filthy. 1.00

00:15:25.020 And I don't mind saying it about Pigpen. 0.99

00:15:26.820 His name indicates it, unless you're a pig, and then it's—it's insulting to pigs. 0.99

00:15:31.480 It's not insulting to Pigpen. 0.99

00:15:34.140 Pigpen was white.

00:15:34.920 But would Trump use filthy to describe a white person? 0.94

00:15:39.740 Well, let me give you an example of that.

00:15:42.340 Do you remember the Red Hen?

00:15:45.920 Does the Red Hen pop up any memories to you?

00:15:51.240 The Red Hen is a breakfast place, I think.

00:15:53.900 It's some restaurant.

00:15:55.480 And it's a restaurant that Sarah Huckabee Sanders went to. 0.96

00:15:58.260 It's owned by a white person.

00:16:01.260 And this white person doesn't like Donald Trump.

00:16:05.020 And apparently some of the patrons there didn't like Donald Trump.

00:16:08.420 And so when they saw Sarah Huckabee Sanders sitting down for some, you know,

00:16:12.300 I don't know, pancakes or hummus or whatever the heck they were serving there,

00:16:15.660 they decided to ask her to leave.

00:16:19.000 It was kind of a minor controversy a few months ago.

00:16:21.200 Of course, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was like,

00:16:22.520 all right, fine, I don't want to eat here if you don't want to serve me.

00:16:24.480 And she left.

00:16:26.220 Donald Trump got wind of it.

00:16:27.240 You know what he said?

00:16:27.840 He said the Red Hen was a filthy establishment. 0.98

00:16:31.380 It's owned by a white person, but it was still filthy. 0.99

00:16:34.360 Why? 0.96

00:16:34.820 Because Donald Trump felt that would be the best insult at that moment.

00:16:38.140 He has no idea.

00:16:38.920 He's probably never been to the Red Hen.

00:16:40.740 He would probably never go to the Red Hen.

00:16:42.660 He has no idea whether it's filthy or not.

00:16:44.640 He just doesn't like the people because they don't like him.

00:16:48.540 This is not deep calculus.

00:16:52.280 And everybody in the media knows it.

00:16:56.520 It's got nothing to do with racism.

00:17:00.580 But I just love how deep the media has to go to go after Trump in these situations.

00:17:06.240 We'll go more into it here in about 60 seconds.

00:17:09.240 Hold on.

00:17:09.520 We're talking about the accusations of racism against Donald Trump when it comes to these tweets about Elijah Cummings in Baltimore.

00:17:19.700 And a lot of the things you'll see is he's criticizing a majority black district.

00:17:25.860 That's one of the big ones.

00:17:26.640 They keep phrasing it that way.

00:17:27.860 Now, look, it's 53% black. 0.82

00:17:30.820 So, yes, technically it's a majority black district.

00:17:34.060 But, you know, it's a diverse population.

00:17:37.420 There's people of all sorts in this particular district.

00:17:40.080 Some of it's urban.

00:17:41.200 Some of it's not so urban.

00:17:42.400 There's farms.

00:17:43.360 There's inner cities.

00:17:44.340 There's all sorts of things in this district.

00:17:45.740 Somehow, Trump has actually found a way to get in trouble for criticizing minorities, though, when they're actually the majority in the district, which is kind of an interesting gymnastics trick there.

00:17:57.400 But he's not criticizing the district.

00:18:00.060 He's not criticizing the people of the district.

00:18:02.440 He's criticizing the incredibly crappy job its representative has done representing it.

00:18:08.220 And we should point out with Elijah Cummings, it's not his district.

00:18:12.940 I hate that.

00:18:13.840 I hate that wording.

00:18:15.280 It's this sort of thing we're putting.

00:18:16.820 This is governmental supremacy that is all in our heads for some reason.

00:18:20.320 It's not his district.

00:18:21.620 Cummings doesn't own the district.

00:18:23.680 He works there.

00:18:24.340 He works for the people there.

00:18:26.640 The congressman does not own his district.

00:18:30.000 And I know that's kind of linguistics there.

00:18:34.180 But we keep turning politicians into kings, and we need to stop that.

00:18:38.220 But Trump isn't just some random white guy.

00:18:42.100 Donald Trump, I know this is weird.

00:18:44.000 I know he used to see him on the whole, you know, the reality shows and stuff.

00:18:46.960 But he's the president of the United States.

00:18:48.860 He's not just some old white guy that you don't like.

00:18:53.420 I mean, it's just as much Donald Trump's district as it is Elijah Cummings' district.

00:18:59.080 Donald Trump has responsibilities for the outcomes and the way it's run just like Elijah Cummings does.

00:19:04.240 Elijah Cummings is obviously more local.

00:19:06.280 But, I mean, Donald Trump has talked a lot about changing things in the inner cities.

00:19:10.400 And he's had some really good results to argue there.

00:19:13.900 I mean, we can talk about the economy and the way it's affected with minority unemployment rates, which are at all-time lows.

00:19:21.880 We can talk about things like criminal justice reform, which were high priorities for many of these communities.

00:19:26.720 But I don't think this is an argument that Elijah Cummings wants.

00:19:31.060 He's been there for 20 years.

00:19:33.080 Things have not gone well in those two decades.

00:19:35.900 What is clear is that what Elijah Cummings is doing in this district is not helping.

00:19:44.960 And honestly, what the voters of the district are doing isn't helping either because they keep sending this guy back over and over and over again despite zero results.

00:19:56.020 If you want to criticize voters for their decision-making process, that's a good place to start.

00:20:00.920 You know, it's Sideshow Bob walking around in a field of rakes.

00:20:03.640 Every place you step, another rake comes up and bashes you in the face.

00:20:09.020 And they keep doing the same thing over and over and over again.

00:20:12.900 Of course, the part of this story, which is always fascinating to me about how, despite the fact that pretty much everyone acknowledges, at least acknowledged until this weekend, that Baltimore had a real problem,

00:20:25.440 they just continue to keep voting people like Elijah Cummings in.

00:20:28.900 And, you know, our system does allow for people to continually vote for their own destruction.

00:20:34.740 That is something our system does allow for.

00:20:38.880 That's democracy.

00:20:39.940 And it's the reason why we have a constitutional republic that is not completely dominated by democracy, 1.00

00:20:45.500 because we are susceptible to making incredibly stupid decisions sometimes. 0.99

00:20:51.540 And that's something that we all have to think about and probably solve. 0.98

00:20:56.000 But many of these cities, if you look at the records, who's been running them and the results they've been coming out with,

00:21:02.620 the cities really need to be thinking about this and should examine their voting patterns.

00:21:07.360 Pat Gray joins me from Pat Gray Unleashed, the incredible program on Blaze Radio, television, and, of course, podcast.

00:21:14.460 Immediately precedes this one, as a matter of fact.

00:21:16.840 So, you know, get up early and stay late. 0.85

00:21:18.960 Anyway, the most racist-y racist who's ever raced is in office right now, and he must be stopped. 0.58

00:21:31.960 Thank you. 0.84

00:21:32.620 I find it incredible that they just dropped any form of journalistic integrity by calling it just flat-out racist.

00:21:41.380 When there's not a racist thing in his tweet, show me what is blatantly racist that you can absolutely just flat-out call racist.

00:21:49.940 There's nothing.

00:21:50.740 No.

00:21:51.460 So that's a judgment call on the part.

00:21:53.300 So they're not even using alleged, assumed, supposed, none of those words apply.

00:21:58.820 I do think that's the most fascinating part of this to me.

00:22:02.480 In that, you know, because, again, this isn't Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:22:05.080 It's not, you know, Rachel Maddow doing this.

00:22:08.820 It's not only journalists doing it.

00:22:11.460 They're actually, like, saying you're not a good journalist if you say racially tinged or alleged racism.

00:22:19.320 They're calling out journalists.

00:22:20.900 It's like the tough guy thing.

00:22:23.060 If you can't funnel a beer, you're not going to be in this fraternity.

00:22:28.700 It's like if you don't call him racist with no qualifiers, you're not in our fraternity anymore.

00:22:33.240 It's crazy.

00:22:34.000 That's an amazing development.

00:22:35.300 It is.

00:22:35.660 Because they are just guessing at his motives.

00:22:37.320 Guessing.

00:22:37.960 Oh, absolutely.

00:22:39.180 Absolutely.

00:22:39.840 And it's not like he hasn't tweeted about white people.

00:22:42.820 He's an equal opportunity offender. 0.99

00:22:46.420 And it's, you know, how many times has he called out others who were, you know, losers or dummies or whatever? 0.99

00:22:55.220 And they are. 0.98

00:22:56.040 Yeah.

00:22:56.540 Many times they are.

00:22:57.280 In many cases.

00:22:57.820 Yeah.

00:22:58.000 I mean, the New York Times has a running list.

00:23:00.460 They have, as of, I think the last time they updated it was last month, 598 individuals and organizations in which he's insulted.

00:23:08.500 Some of them dozens of times each.

00:23:10.200 And you go through it.

00:23:12.700 And I did not count all 598 because I have a little bit of a life.

00:23:17.460 Mm-hmm.

00:23:17.720 But, I mean, to me, it seems like the overwhelming majority are white people.

00:23:21.940 Oh, I think so.

00:23:22.780 Yeah.

00:23:23.060 I think so.

00:23:23.680 You know, again, so it's the same thing in the country.

00:23:25.260 You'd expect it.

00:23:26.000 But, again, the opposition, right?

00:23:27.700 And he's almost exclusively tweeting about people who don't like him.

00:23:32.200 Yeah.

00:23:32.360 So a lot of them are Democrats.

00:23:33.500 Did you see the Victor Blackwell from CNN comments?

00:23:38.000 First of all, Victor Blackwell?

00:23:40.360 Who is this guy?

00:23:41.940 Victor Blackwell?

00:23:42.600 I have never heard of this guy.

00:23:45.060 And I guess he's got a show on CNN on the weekends.

00:23:47.720 And he felt pretty strongly about it.

00:23:49.880 Here's what he said.

00:23:51.040 The president says about Congressman Cummings' district.

00:23:56.500 Uh-oh.

00:23:57.700 He's fighting back the tears.

00:23:59.940 Oh, man.

00:24:00.440 Oh, bite that lip. 0.99

00:24:01.820 Oh.

00:24:04.020 Come on.

00:24:04.740 That no human would want to live there.

00:24:07.880 You know who did, Mr. President?

00:24:09.200 I did.

00:24:09.860 You did?

00:24:10.840 From the day I was brought home from the hospital to the day I left for college.

00:24:15.000 Wait, you didn't have any choice when you were brought home from me.

00:24:16.520 And a lot of people I care about still do.

00:24:18.380 There are challenges, no doubt.

00:24:20.120 Wait.

00:24:20.720 But now that he has a choice, now he has a choice, he's gone.

00:24:23.600 I don't want to sound self-righteous.

00:24:26.320 Okay, then don't.

00:24:27.180 But people get up and go to work there.

00:24:29.700 Yeah.

00:24:30.060 They care for their families there.

00:24:31.800 Nobody said that didn't happen.

00:24:32.720 They love their children who pledge allegiance to the flag.

00:24:35.800 Just like people who live in districts of congressmen who support you, sir.

00:24:39.600 Okay.

00:24:39.980 They are Americans, too.

00:24:41.420 So who wants to live there?

00:24:42.800 I do.

00:24:43.360 The guy left that utopia, the very second it was his choice.

00:24:49.180 The very second.

00:24:50.980 As soon as he's out of high school, he gets the hell out of Baltimore and doesn't look back.

00:24:56.500 Come on.

00:24:57.380 I mean, come on.

00:25:00.200 The gymnastics they will go through.

00:25:02.860 It's unbelievable, man.

00:25:03.900 To criticize Trump.

00:25:05.780 And, like, you know, to the point of they're, like, now saying basically Baltimore is Disneyland.

00:25:12.820 In fact, it's actually better than Disneyland because they have a lot more mice.

00:25:16.660 Because Disneyland has the one big one.

00:25:18.980 They've got millions.

00:25:20.300 Glenn and I lived and worked there in 89 through 92.

00:25:25.840 When we first got to town, the station set us down to do these publicity photos.

00:25:32.520 And so we're looking for the place.

00:25:33.900 This was before GPS, obviously.

00:25:35.820 And we're looking for the place.

00:25:36.740 And we go down this alley in Baltimore.

00:25:38.560 It's really one of those wide alleys.

00:25:40.720 And it's paved.

00:25:43.000 And on every post is a sign that says, warning, rat infestation.

00:25:50.960 Which you already knew because you see all the squished rats on the pavement.

00:25:56.280 That car after car after car drove over.

00:25:59.240 Why?

00:26:00.020 Because Baltimore is rat infested.

00:26:02.960 And has been.

00:26:03.780 For a long time.

00:26:04.580 Everyone's known this for a long time.

00:26:05.360 At the time, they estimated rats outnumbered people in the inner Baltimore area.

00:26:11.580 Let's see.

00:26:12.260 There were 20 million rats to 2 million people.

00:26:15.260 So it was only a 10 to 1 ratio.

00:26:19.080 Don't give them voting rights.

00:26:20.640 I mean, jeez. 0.99

00:26:21.380 You'd have a rat president in moments. 0.82

00:26:23.380 Did you also see that on the blaze, they posted a woman who lives in the area. 0.98

00:26:27.740 And she went through the neighborhood showing you some of the garbage.

00:26:31.520 Some of these neighborhoods are subject to dumping.

00:26:35.280 And people just drive in and dump their garbage there.

00:26:38.360 And, you know, there's mattresses and washing machines.

00:26:41.660 And, I don't know, all manner of trash in everybody's yards and fields.

00:26:46.640 And abandoned row house buildings where there's been a tree growing inside of it that is now taller than the building.

00:26:53.420 So this isn't something that happened overnight.

00:26:55.600 It's been going on for decades.

00:26:57.700 And everybody knows it.

00:26:59.460 Everybody knows it.

00:27:00.380 It also has the highest murder rate in the country of large cities.

00:27:03.540 It's second overall.

00:27:05.560 Second only to the mean streets of Helena, Montana, of course.

00:27:08.600 I don't think it's Helena.

00:27:09.800 But this is actually second.

00:27:13.240 I mean, it's 56 deaths, murders per 100,000 people.

00:27:18.140 That is skyrocket high.

00:27:20.060 Oh, yeah.

00:27:20.360 It's very high.

00:27:21.080 And it's been getting worse recently.

00:27:23.460 Yeah.

00:27:23.740 In fact, you know, the part when you say you were there 89 to 92, after that, it went through a little bit of a rebirth.

00:27:30.500 Right.

00:27:31.020 And kind of came back and has gone, unfortunately, has slipped back down the other way.

00:27:35.540 Well, they've been trying for a long time to make Baltimore nice.

00:27:38.340 That's why they built the Inner Harbor and I think spent, I don't know, $1 or $2 billion on it.

00:27:42.680 And that was in the 80s.

00:27:43.640 That was a long time ago.

00:27:44.820 A long time ago.

00:27:45.560 So they've been trying really hard.

00:27:47.380 And there are nice spots.

00:27:48.820 Yes, absolutely.

00:27:49.800 There are.

00:27:50.200 But we all know there are parts of Baltimore you do not want to visit, let alone live in.

00:27:57.300 No question.

00:27:58.060 We all know it.

00:27:58.820 I mean, The Wire was a series all about it.

00:28:02.300 But we are all 100%, you know, deep in the knowledge of the problems of Baltimore.

00:28:10.940 And yet Trump is so far in the heads of the media that they will actually come out and defend Baltimore like it's paradise.

00:28:18.340 I know.

00:28:18.560 Like it's basically a sandals, an all-inclusive place to just go and you swim up bar on every corner.

00:28:24.520 That is not what Baltimore is.

00:28:26.020 Sure isn't.

00:28:26.660 It isn't.

00:28:27.660 I mean, this is a city. 1.00

00:28:28.760 I mean, even the Orioles suck. 0.96

00:28:31.020 The Blue Jays are going to lose 100 games this year and still finish 10 games ahead of the Orioles. 0.96

00:28:36.420 That's how bad it is in Baltimore right now.

00:28:39.480 I may be going to sports just because I know football is around the corner.

00:28:43.900 And I know you're the only person around here.

00:28:46.160 I usually have to sit in this room with Glenn.

00:28:48.120 Yeah.

00:28:48.380 And he's not excited.

00:28:49.700 Yeah.

00:28:49.940 You're the only person I know who's actually excited.

00:28:51.800 Oh, I'm so excited.

00:28:52.500 About football returning.

00:28:53.720 Yes.

00:28:54.820 I'm more excited about that than I am rats in Baltimore.

00:28:57.460 Really?

00:28:57.880 Yes.

00:28:58.400 That's a good.

00:28:59.120 And again, what's the Oriole to rat numbers in Baltimore?

00:29:03.920 I got to believe.

00:29:05.620 Like.

00:29:06.260 And or the Ravens.

00:29:07.740 Uh-huh.

00:29:08.160 Like.

00:29:08.700 Hundreds of thousands to one.

00:29:10.040 Right. 0.82

00:29:11.820 Just name them the rats and go for it. 0.72

00:29:13.720 I think you do that.

00:29:15.340 I was fascinated by this.

00:29:16.540 I know you're a big Peyton Manning fan.

00:29:17.960 Mm-hmm.

00:29:18.620 This story is fascinating to me.

00:29:20.860 It's a column written about Peyton Manning.

00:29:24.500 And here's the title.

00:29:25.880 Everybody loves Peyton Manning. 1.00

00:29:28.400 But for how much longer?

00:29:30.140 Uh-oh.

00:29:31.080 And it goes into.

00:29:32.040 Okay.

00:29:32.380 You know, Peyton Manning's the guy.

00:29:33.500 Everything he can go.

00:29:34.240 He can be a sponsor of any product.

00:29:36.380 People want him to.

00:29:37.580 Every big broadcasting opening that comes up.

00:29:39.540 He's always the first guy mentioned.

00:29:41.060 Yeah.

00:29:41.240 People talk about him.

00:29:42.020 Trying to get him for Monday Night Football this year.

00:29:43.620 Governor for president, right?

00:29:45.380 Like, this is Peyton Manning.

00:29:46.400 He has that sort of profile.

00:29:47.800 Here's the question, though, as the column reads.

00:29:49.880 In a culture that seems hell-bent on savaging its icons, how long can it last?

00:29:54.500 America is in full teardown mode right now. 0.99

00:29:56.400 Nobody gets to skate on I was young and stupid or those are my beliefs. 0.99

00:29:59.300 I stand by them anymore. 0.97

00:30:00.840 Fair or not, and we all think of a reputation shattering overreach, even if we can't all agree

00:30:05.080 exactly which reputations were unfairly shattered, that's the way the world is now.

00:30:09.660 This isn't limited to either political party or ideology.

00:30:12.140 Both sides want to claim their stars and demonize the other side.

00:30:15.500 Manning has thrived because he has kept his beliefs tucked close.

00:30:19.020 He is, to coin a phrase, sticking to sports.

00:30:21.840 Still, we can rough out the edges of his ideology.

00:30:28.060 Uh-oh.

00:30:29.160 Number one, he's a frequent visitor to and possible member of Augusta National.

00:30:37.300 No.

00:30:38.360 So right there, this guy.

00:30:39.680 Wait, he's a possible member of?

00:30:41.920 We don't even know if he is a member.

00:30:44.500 Huh.

00:30:44.980 Now, I thought, the way that reads it, you think he's going to say, the KKK is going to

00:30:48.580 be under that, but no.

00:30:49.460 No.

00:30:49.920 It's Augusta National.

00:30:51.420 Augusta National.

00:30:52.300 It's a golf club.

00:30:53.960 Wow.

00:30:54.260 So we know he's a golfer.

00:30:56.280 Okay.

00:30:57.060 He's donated to Republican figures.

00:31:00.900 No, he hasn't.

00:31:01.920 Including the recent presidential campaigns of Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush.

00:31:08.300 Wow.

00:31:08.880 Now how much do you hate him?

00:31:11.160 More recently, he's played golf with Donald Trump and spoken at Republican events. 1.00

00:31:20.300 Bastard. 0.97

00:31:20.820 Now, to say, this is an observation, folks, not criticism. 0.95

00:31:23.680 He's not, I don't think he's even trying to make the case that this should happen to

00:31:27.080 Peyton Manning.

00:31:28.460 There's nothing wrong with Manning or anything else, or anyone else voting the way they wish

00:31:32.240 and associating with whomever they wish, of course.

00:31:34.220 But you don't have to work hard to see how Manning, like everyone else who believes in

00:31:37.340 something more than kicking back and watching Netflix, could end up in the middle of the

00:31:41.360 us versus them kickball team picking that America has become.

00:31:46.000 Returning to the public eye means surrendering control of your image, and Manning guards

00:31:49.760 and nurtures his image as closely as any athlete ever has.

00:31:52.840 If he steps back into the live spotlight, he'll make sure to do it in a way that keeps everyone

00:31:57.600 happy.

00:31:58.040 Otherwise, he'll just keep doing what he's done for the past few years, showing us exactly

00:32:01.580 what he wants us to see and nothing more.

00:32:04.220 It's fascinating because they go into, you know, the accusations from his time in college

00:32:09.660 where one woman said that he made sexually sort of suggestive jokes and gestures and may

00:32:17.040 have had contact in some way.

00:32:19.940 And basically they're saying like, if he comes out and he starts, if he turns into an out 1.00

00:32:24.960 Republican where he may be running for office, he will then be, is it me too'd or whatever.

00:32:32.460 And all of a sudden those things will become serious.

00:32:35.800 Like we are at a time now where even when you go your entire life trying to avoid being

00:32:41.180 a figure in these sort of culture wars, they will suck you in sort of against your will.

00:32:49.120 Oh, for sure.

00:32:50.280 And that is a weird world to live in, isn't it?

00:32:51.960 Yeah, it is.

00:32:52.520 Especially for somebody so beloved as Peyton Manning.

00:32:55.180 Is there anybody who doesn't like him?

00:32:56.600 I don't know if I've run across anyone.

00:32:59.240 I can't think of anybody.

00:33:00.260 The guy's was great at Hall of Fame career.

00:33:03.380 He's great at all these commercials.

00:33:05.660 He's just seems to be fun.

00:33:07.400 And the reason he didn't take the Monday Night Football gig was because he didn't want to

00:33:12.120 analyze his own brother.

00:33:13.580 He's just, he's a great guy.

00:33:15.880 Seemingly.

00:33:16.400 It does seem that way.

00:33:17.360 Yeah.

00:33:17.660 So why not destroy him? 0.97

00:33:19.320 They will. 0.98

00:33:20.400 Especially since he's a Republican, apparently.

00:33:22.420 Oh, no.

00:33:23.080 Can't have that.

00:33:23.740 Can't have that.

00:33:24.320 That'll be bad.

00:33:24.940 Do you think Peyton wants his Jeb Bush money back, though?

00:33:27.300 You gotta, you gotta believe.

00:33:30.400 Yeah.

00:33:30.860 I mean, he's thrown some bad interception in his life, but that's one you definitely want

00:33:35.680 back.

00:33:36.420 All right.

00:33:36.600 Pat Gray, I get the podcast every day.

00:33:39.040 And you're going to be joining me this week, too, right?

00:33:41.080 Yes.

00:33:41.160 We're going to be doing some Pat and Stu here for Glenn for the rest of the week.

00:33:45.380 So we're excited about that as well.

00:33:46.540 Get the podcast at Pat Gray Unleashed and follow him on Twitter at Pat Unleashed.

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00:34:54.640 Brian Riedel is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and he joins us now.

00:34:58.980 I wrote a story for National Review.

00:35:00.460 New Budget Deal puts the final nail in the Tea Party coffin, which made me have a wonderful 0.95

00:35:05.280 day the day I read it.

00:35:06.420 Thanks for the optimism.

00:35:07.580 I appreciate that, Brian.

00:35:09.460 But you're completely right, right?

00:35:11.360 We've completely given up as a, I guess, as a conservative movement.

00:35:15.760 We just seem to no longer care about debt or deficit.

00:35:19.800 That's the conventional wisdom in Washington.

00:35:22.060 You know, I've lived in Washington 18 years, forgive me.

00:35:25.420 Um, and, uh, I, I've worked in the Senate for six years recently, and so I, I, I talked

00:35:31.220 to a lot of lawmakers and I know them very well.

00:35:34.700 And the conventional wisdom in Washington is that you, the voters, the conservatives no

00:35:39.600 longer care about spending and deficits.

00:35:41.840 And so why should they say, why should we put up with the angry media and the, the angry

00:35:48.280 liberals when conservatives don't really care as evidence that conservatives don't care?

00:35:54.000 A lot of them generally cite, frankly, the election of Donald Trump.

00:35:58.680 Uh, he, President Trump called himself the King of Debt.

00:36:01.560 He said he will not touch social security and Medicare.

00:36:05.620 And in doing so, he defeated people like Ted Cruz who ran on issues like less spending.

00:36:12.000 So the lesson that was taken by lawmakers is, all right, if you guys don't care about, if

00:36:17.700 you voters don't really care about spending and deficits, then we don't either.

00:36:21.160 Hmm.

00:36:22.500 And I, I think that is, I think they're reading that generally accurately.

00:36:27.000 I mean, I think maybe people are more focused on, you know, whatever cultural issue is going

00:36:31.380 on and, and this is a big problem and it never seems like to get, you know, all the effort

00:36:35.880 we put into it during the Tea Party era, did we get anything out of it?

00:36:39.260 I mean, you can kind of understand how people get there.

00:36:42.600 Yeah, well, what the challenge is a lot of the Tea Party movement and this, uh, was, was

00:36:49.140 focused a lot on the stimulus and, and the Wall Street bailouts and to, and to then later

00:36:55.380 Obamacare.

00:36:56.060 The issue was eventually, uh, much, but not all of the stimulus expired, uh, and the Wall

00:37:04.460 Street bailouts were mostly paid back.

00:37:07.400 So what happened is what was left was the real underlying driver of 30, of the 30 year

00:37:13.200 deficits, which is social security and Medicare.

00:37:15.820 If you look at the numbers for the next 30 years, this is amazing.

00:37:19.320 The Congressional Budget Office forecast, uh, forecast $80 trillion in new deficits over

00:37:25.160 the next 30 years.

00:37:26.540 They say that social security and Medicare will run $103 trillion shortfall and the rest

00:37:34.280 of the budget will run a $23 trillion surplus.

00:37:37.120 That's how they get to $80 trillion.

00:37:38.860 That is an amazing statistic.

00:37:41.440 $103 trillion in deficits for Medicare and social security, but the rest of the budget

00:37:47.240 in, and I feel like this is not actually realistically how these things play out is a $23 trillion

00:37:53.100 surplus to get to still $80 trillion in new debt in the next 30 years.

00:37:58.320 That's amazing.

00:37:59.020 Exactly.

00:37:59.380 Exactly.

00:37:59.960 And the issue, I think what a lot of people in Washington will say is, okay, once we got

00:38:05.020 past the stimulus and, and, and the Wall Street bailouts, addressing the deficit means addressing

00:38:11.540 social security and Medicare.

00:38:12.780 And they've concluded that Republican voters do not want to reform social security and Medicare.

00:38:19.920 Therefore, there's nothing left to do but spend.

00:38:23.140 I mean, that is, I mean, it's, again, I can understand how they get there.

00:38:27.140 Uh, but that is an, it's an amazing thing to essentially admit.

00:38:31.380 Let's, before we get back, and I, cause I want to go over some of the, the Tea Party stuff

00:38:34.580 and, and how we kind of got here, but can you guys walk us through the latest budget deal?

00:38:40.080 Is it, I mean, is it something where we've completely abandoned all responsibility or

00:38:45.960 is it worse than that?

00:38:47.620 We've, we've abandoned all responsibility too.

00:38:49.980 You know, the, the crown jewel of the Tea Party was the 2011 Budget Control Act.

00:38:54.980 This lowered discretionary spending by $2.1 trillion over 10 years.

00:39:01.240 Well, pretty much as soon as the ink was dry, they started weakening it.

00:39:06.880 Uh, Republicans wanted more defense spending.

00:39:09.320 Democrats wanted more non-defense spending.

00:39:11.480 So they just kept raising the cap.

00:39:13.380 Each, each two years, they would raise the caps more and more.

00:39:17.640 Since 2014, they raised the caps by $770 billion.

00:39:22.740 And this time around, they essentially just repealed the caps and went back to what discretionary

00:39:28.720 spending would have been had there never even been a Budget Control Act.

00:39:32.460 So when you think back to 2011, all that work, all the grand negotiations, the talk about defaulting

00:39:39.000 on the debt limit with President Obama, they, they did, they were, did all that work to get

00:39:43.960 the Budget Control Act caps, and then they just ignored it.

00:39:46.880 In terms of the cost moving forward, here's what's really scary.

00:39:50.060 They're raising the caps by about $160 billion per year for two years.

00:39:56.400 But the way it's scored, that's going to permanently raise the baseline, which means in two years,

00:40:02.900 they're going to start from that higher level.

00:40:05.720 Right.

00:40:06.140 And therefore, according to the Congressional Budget Office, this is going to cost about

00:40:10.440 $1.7 trillion over the next 10 years, because they're just going to keep starting from the

00:40:16.640 higher spending level every year going forward.

00:40:19.120 So when you say, how bad is this?

00:40:21.160 It's that bad.

00:40:22.640 That's really because every, every dollar you spend is really $10 because it's there.

00:40:27.660 There's no way anyone ever goes down from where they are.

00:40:31.540 It's always an increase off of the most recent year.

00:40:34.280 So each dollar you spend is another $10 over a decade.

00:40:37.720 And that adds up really fast.

00:40:39.700 That's exactly it.

00:40:41.340 In two years, and that's why, that's why one of the reasons we got this level is they

00:40:45.700 raised the caps a couple of years ago.

00:40:47.680 And then when they got to now said, well, we're not going to go back down now.

00:40:51.180 We raised the caps a couple of years ago.

00:40:52.760 We're going to keep, we're going to keep raising them.

00:40:54.920 And so you're, it's exactly it.

00:40:56.720 So this is going to be $1.7 trillion over 10 years, because they're going to, they're

00:41:02.840 going to use the new higher level as their starting point next time around.

00:41:07.900 Now, when it comes to spending this new money, at least some of this, in theory, you're getting

00:41:11.840 something for.

00:41:12.900 We're getting to a point now where the higher and higher percentage of the budget is just

00:41:17.500 us paying interest on money we've already previously borrowed.

00:41:21.200 Um, what is the, how big, how much of the budget is, uh, is just interest at this point?

00:41:27.520 And how big does that get going forward?

00:41:30.060 This is scary.

00:41:31.180 Um, right now it doesn't look bad right now about, uh, 10% of the budget is interest on

00:41:39.000 the debt, which doesn't look that bad.

00:41:41.100 It's projected, uh, to triple in, in, in nominal dollar terms over the next decade.

00:41:47.260 And as a percent of the budget, more than double to about 20% of the, to about 20%.

00:41:52.580 And then over the next couple of decades get to about 30%.

00:41:55.760 Here's what's scary though.

00:41:58.380 All of these, all of these numbers I just mentioned, assume interest rates stay at record

00:42:04.320 lows.

00:42:05.060 And the scary thing is every point that interest rates go up will cost $13 trillion over the

00:42:13.100 next 30 years or one and a half trillion over the next decade.

00:42:17.260 Every point.

00:42:18.780 So if interest rates go up, let's say the return to 1990s levels, which we don't think of as

00:42:25.180 being a particularly high interest rate era, if interest rates return to 1990s levels, you

00:42:31.420 add $4 trillion over the decade and 40 trillion over three decades, because the debt is so big

00:42:39.820 that even small movements and interest rates will bury us.

00:42:45.260 So the numbers are bad as it is.

00:42:47.020 In fact, even with low interest rates, interest becomes the biggest part of the budget within

00:42:52.100 three decades.

00:42:53.380 And that's with record low interest rates.

00:42:54.860 If interest rates rise, we get buried.

00:42:59.580 You write in National Review, I thought this was amazing because, you know, you talk about

00:43:04.000 how people don't care about these cuts and they don't actually want them.

00:43:07.420 I mean, listen to this.

00:43:08.380 Listen, this is amazing.

00:43:09.900 A effort by conservative House Republicans in 2017 and 2018 to trim the growth rate of

00:43:14.300 entitlement spending from 5.9% all the way to 5.8%.

00:43:19.800 So again, we're not talking about actually cutting anything.

00:43:22.280 We're cutting the increase from 5.9 to 5.8.

00:43:25.720 That was rejected and a bill that was going to reduce unnecessary spending by 0.002% of

00:43:35.500 the budget, not 2%, not 0.2, not 0.02, but 0.002% of the budget.

00:43:42.140 Even that was said to be, there's just nothing left in the cupboard.

00:43:46.420 We can't cut anything.

00:43:48.120 I mean, these are not exactly, this is not austerity we're talking about here.

00:43:53.040 These are very minor, minor changes.

00:43:55.980 And I mean, it really does enforce that there is, it feels completely hopeless, Brian.

00:44:01.260 Yeah, I mean, you know, I start to wonder what exactly do Republicans come to Washington

00:44:06.380 to do?

00:44:06.980 I mean, if you can't even cut the growth rate of government from one-tenth of one percent,

00:44:11.620 not cut spending, but just have it grow one-tenth of one percent at a slower annual rate,

00:44:17.380 why are you even here?

00:44:19.340 And let me tell you how that relates to this bill.

00:44:21.840 I did some math, and I have been blasting this out to my friends in the House and Senate

00:44:27.080 for the last couple of days.

00:44:28.780 We could pay for at least the first two years of these caps, not the $1.7 trillion over the

00:44:34.500 decade, but the short-term $320 billion.

00:44:38.400 We could pay for that by just cutting the growth rate of entitlements again by one-tenth of one

00:44:45.160 percent.

00:44:45.600 Basically, you know, like I said, from 5.9 to 5.8, that would actually pay for this bill.

00:44:52.640 Members of Congress, the Republican Party will not even cut the growth rate of entitlements

00:44:58.220 from 5.9 to 5.8 percent in order to pay for the first two years of this bill.

00:45:03.620 They will not even do that.

00:45:05.780 That's incredible.

00:45:06.780 All right.

00:45:06.980 I want to ask you about your perspective on what the Tea Party actually was.

00:45:12.140 Talking to Brian Riedel of the Manhattan Institute, I want to get through a couple quick things

00:45:15.840 here in our couple minutes remaining, if we could, Brian.

00:45:18.800 The Tea Party, do you think—and there's kind of a competing analysis here—is it when

00:45:25.040 these focuses on spending, on government growth, was it one of those things where, you know,

00:45:30.180 most people never really meant it as far as, you know, budget controls, but it was the

00:45:35.440 closest weapon around.

00:45:36.400 Someone broke in, they grabbed the lamp because it was the closest thing there.

00:45:39.720 It was at the time the thing everyone was talking about, and the Tea Party used it to

00:45:44.060 try to push back into power.

00:45:45.780 Or was it one of those things where people really did mean it?

00:45:48.600 They did connect with the Constitution, but they felt like they did everything right.

00:45:52.200 They pushed as hard as they could, got nothing out of it, and have basically just kind of

00:45:56.980 given up.

00:45:58.240 Well, I think I could say I was there when the Tea Party started.

00:46:01.620 At the time, I was running budget policy at the Heritage Foundation.

00:46:05.460 A lot of the Tea Party meetings would circulate my data.

00:46:09.620 I think that it was legitimate concern about debt and deficit because there was such sticker

00:46:14.380 shock about the deficit rising to $1.4 trillion in 2009.

00:46:20.820 The challenge, I think, with the Tea Party is there was a lot of concern about the deficit

00:46:27.180 to the extent it was driven by the Wall Street bailouts, the stimulus, and Obamacare.

00:46:33.600 And once we got past some of those policies expired or we weren't able to repeal Obamacare,

00:46:39.860 and it became that, well, actually much more of the deficit is based on policies that we

00:46:46.040 benefit from, Social Security and Medicare primarily, that's when a lot of the Tea Partiers

00:46:51.200 lost interest.

00:46:52.400 So I think it was, you could say that it was kind of convenient that a lot of Tea Partiers

00:46:57.460 were concerned about the deficit when it was based on what they considered programs they

00:47:02.700 didn't benefit from.

00:47:03.740 But once you got back to their own benefits, it kind of faded away.

00:47:07.940 Additionally, some interest was lost just because the Republicans couldn't do that much to cut

00:47:13.700 the deficit with President Obama in office.

00:47:16.520 I mean, Paul Ryan, you know, people criticize him.

00:47:19.900 He did everything he could, but as long as President Obama was in office, you can't repeal

00:47:24.980 Obamacare.

00:47:25.940 And I think that kind of led to some, you know, why are we bothering views among Tea Partiers.

00:47:32.020 One more thing here, if we could do, how much time do we have left?

00:47:36.080 Because I would love to, we're down to about a minute.

00:47:39.440 Do you have a couple minutes on the other side, Brian, or do you need to run?

00:47:42.600 Okay, because I would love to ask you about, particularly Kamala Harris's policy, when it

00:47:48.800 comes, for lack of a better term, quote unquote, policy, when it comes to her Medicare for 0.81

00:47:55.060 all proposal, where she seems to be saying she wants all the stuff from Bernie Sanders'

00:48:00.980 policy, but without any of the middle class tax increases, which to my eye seems completely

00:48:08.020 impossible, but I'd love to get someone who's a lot smarter than me to talk about that for

00:48:11.880 a second.

00:48:12.620 By the way, Brian's a great follow on Twitter, at Brian underscore R-I-E-D-L.

00:48:17.780 He's from the Manhattan Institute.

00:48:19.100 And if you care about the budget, I know a lot of people in this audience really do care.

00:48:23.340 He's a great follow, and you get lots of real information about it.

00:48:26.520 And one of the things that I'm fascinated about is this idea of Kamala Harris, who wants

00:48:32.700 to give everyone all the bells and whistles that people like Bernie Sanders want to give

00:48:36.860 him.

00:48:36.920 Give you the full socialist palette here.

00:48:38.880 But she's not going to raise taxes on anybody unless they make a billion dollars a year or 1.00

00:48:43.940 more, is pretty much how I understand it.

00:48:45.820 Can you get any sort of rational sense as to what she's claiming to be able to accomplish

00:48:51.080 here?

00:48:51.460 And can she pay for this program or even come close to it? 0.99

00:48:55.880 Kamala Harris did something remarkable.

00:48:58.580 She got the Bernie Sanders campaign to say that she's living in economic fantasy land.

00:49:05.220 That is, wow.

00:49:07.120 Even the Sanders campaign says you've gone off into la-la land.

00:49:10.640 You've accomplished something special.

00:49:13.520 You know, Medicare for All would cost, in the best case scenario, an additional $32 trillion

00:49:19.300 over the decade, in a more realistic scenario, probably about $40 trillion.

00:49:24.620 Let's just do the math.

00:49:25.780 I mean, basically, that nearly doubles the size of the entire federal government.

00:49:29.880 Because the entire federal government is projected to spend about nearly $50 trillion over the

00:49:34.380 next decade.

00:49:35.040 So you're nearly doubling the government.

00:49:36.640 If you took every Democratic tax-to-rich proposal, the wealth tax, the 70% tax rates, higher capital

00:49:45.860 gains, financial taxes, higher corporate taxes, higher estate taxes, they add up to, at most,

00:49:53.240 $3 trillion.

00:49:54.140 And that's using the left's own numbers that assume that these policies actually work.

00:50:01.200 You know, that people keep working and paying the taxes.

00:50:03.740 Even according to their own math, you could not pay for more than one-tenth of this program,

00:50:10.420 even if you did every single tax-to-rich plan proposed by every single Democratic candidate.

00:50:16.460 It is mathematically impossible to do what Kamala Harris is proposing.

00:50:20.060 And this is what brings you back to what Bernie Sanders is saying in a moment of honesty, I

00:50:27.020 guess.

00:50:27.760 The bottom line is you have to raise taxes massively on the middle class.

00:50:32.820 It's not just rich people.

00:50:34.220 It's not just executives.

00:50:35.720 It's not just financial transactions.

00:50:37.880 This is regular people making regular salaries, and their taxes are going to go through the

00:50:42.380 roof to pay for this.

00:50:43.120 You could confiscate 100% of the income of everyone earning $500,000 or more, and it

00:50:50.620 wouldn't pay for Medicare for All.

00:50:52.880 I mean, like, you could – I mean, and let's assume they all keep working, you know?

00:50:57.580 Like, even if, like, you confiscated 100% of their income, it still wouldn't pay for

00:51:01.460 this.

00:51:02.080 Now, the Sanders people have nothing to brag about because Bernie Sanders' Medicare for

00:51:06.660 All bill actually has the revenue section as TBD.

00:51:12.140 We'll figure out the pay for it later.

00:51:14.080 There actually is no pay for section in the Sanders' Medicare for All bill, the one that

00:51:18.100 members of Congress keep saying we need to pass.

00:51:21.060 Sanders can't actually come up with the taxes either.

00:51:23.520 But at least he admits that you can't increase spending by $32 trillion by taxing the 1%.

00:51:30.660 I mean, this is so comical that it should be laughed at.

00:51:38.280 And let me end in the actual padded room here for a moment because Medicare for All is just

00:51:42.620 what one tiny slice of the Green New Deal, which I don't know what it has to do with being

00:51:48.860 green at all.

00:51:49.960 But, I mean, go beyond this.

00:51:52.120 When you get to the AOC sort of territory, I mean, this is almost an incalculable cost

00:51:59.500 as to what they're actually proposing.

00:52:01.460 Well, I mean, they have a universal basic income for everybody, free income for everyone,

00:52:07.340 quote, not willing to work.

00:52:08.880 They're going to rebuild and retrofit every house and building in America.

00:52:13.200 They're going to take every place airplanes fly and replace it with high-speed rail. 0.74

00:52:18.600 So imagine every place in America where there's a little bit of a regional airport, we're

00:52:22.880 going to instead spend billions on high-speed rail.

00:52:25.400 We're going to replace every car in America that runs on gas.

00:52:29.460 I mean, I have been scoring bills in Washington for 18 years.

00:52:33.780 You can't even score this stuff.

00:52:35.680 It's incalculable.

00:52:37.180 I mean, there's no way to even estimate how much would it cost to rebuild and retrofit

00:52:42.560 every house and building in the country.

00:52:44.540 I mean, essentially what they're saying is we should tear down the entire country and build

00:52:48.540 a new one.

00:52:50.500 That is, you know, in many ways, that is exactly what they are saying.

00:52:54.740 Brian Riedel, I am starting a movement to get Brian Riedel as a moderator of a Democratic

00:52:59.160 debate.

00:52:59.840 I want this to happen.

00:53:01.340 This would be entertaining.

00:53:02.380 People would tune in for that.

00:53:04.280 Brian Riedel, that would be fun.

00:53:05.600 Then they would have to watch it, though.

00:53:06.740 Oh, yeah.

00:53:07.620 Well, you wouldn't have to.

00:53:08.540 I think they're asleep most of the time anyway.

00:53:10.480 Brian Riedel, Manhattan Institute, at Brian underscore Riedel, R-I-E-D-L, on Twitter.

00:53:15.180 Brian, thanks for joining us.

00:53:15.920 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:53:31.620 Jeff Fisher from the Fabulous podcast.

00:53:36.720 I was going to say the Fisher Files.

00:53:38.160 That's the old school one.

00:53:39.040 That's the old one.

00:53:39.480 Yes.

00:53:40.060 It is Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

00:53:42.300 It joins us now.

00:53:43.320 Does this stuff scare you at all?

00:53:46.040 Look, they just want to spend everybody's money and remake the country.

00:53:49.760 Why don't you want that, Stu?

00:53:51.020 Yeah, I know.

00:53:51.700 Just tear down the country and build a new one.

00:53:53.420 Speaking of tearing down the country, though, can we kind of get by the, what did Trump call

00:53:57.180 Baltimore?

00:53:57.880 The hellhole, progressive democratic hellhole that it is? 0.90

00:54:01.120 What's that?

00:54:01.440 I forget what he said in his tweet.

00:54:02.800 But you mentioned The Wire.

00:54:05.360 Critically acclaimed on HBO for six or seven years.

00:54:08.840 Did it paint the picture of a wonderful suburb where everything runs perfectly and there's

00:54:12.780 nice manicured lawns?

00:54:14.080 No, it did not.

00:54:15.060 No.

00:54:15.340 It painted a picture of corruption and drug abuse and a city hellhole.

00:54:20.280 Yeah.

00:54:20.820 There was a show prior to that on television that was critically acclaimed called Homicide

00:54:26.240 Life on the Streets that was based in Baltimore.

00:54:29.760 The same thing.

00:54:30.740 And it was also, that was, both shows were based on a book from a Baltimore Sun reporter

00:54:35.340 called Homicide a Year on the Killing Streets.

00:54:39.520 Wow.

00:54:39.840 So, I mean, it's not like a big secret.

00:54:42.240 Yeah, and the Baltimore Sun is one of the big, you know, newspapers coming out being critical

00:54:46.300 of Trump and saying, like, you can't criticize us.

00:54:48.720 What are you talking about?

00:54:50.140 I mean, sure, we have a couple issues, but you shouldn't be talking about it.

00:54:52.700 Let us talk about it.

00:54:53.660 Right.

00:54:54.000 Well, you know what?

00:54:54.480 He's the president of the United States.

00:54:55.720 I think talking about, you know, a major city and its massive problems does fall under

00:55:00.840 his purview.

00:55:01.640 It does.

00:55:01.840 And it's been, you know, look, Elijah Cummings has done such a great job in his 80 terms as

00:55:08.180 a congressman that, you know, somebody, can anything be done with it now?

00:55:13.580 I don't know.

00:55:14.560 I don't know.

00:55:15.140 I mean, I guess.

00:55:15.700 I mean, you can't give up, I guess.

00:55:17.560 No.

00:55:17.780 It does feel, I mean, you know, Detroit is another thing.

00:55:20.660 The Democrats are talking about Detroit, obviously, this week.

00:55:23.180 And, you know, you look at Detroit, it has had, certain areas have come back in a funny

00:55:31.560 and hilarious development.

00:55:33.460 A big part of the comeback of certain areas of Detroit has to do not with giant government

00:55:38.320 programs, but rich white executives dumping billions of dollars into a city that they love.

00:55:44.520 That they earn because of capitalism.

00:55:48.920 Yeah.

00:55:49.040 That's right.

00:55:49.480 That's the word.

00:55:49.880 Yeah, I'm sure that'll be covered this week.

00:55:52.740 That's just agonizing.

00:55:54.320 Now, look, some of the things that we can talk about today, you know, I like to do a few

00:55:59.160 headlines that, I love the headlines, but you don't want to delve into the story, right?

00:56:03.720 I mean, you just want to live with the headline.

00:56:05.940 Don't bog me down with facts.

00:56:07.940 No more information needed.

00:56:09.080 You don't need any more than that.

00:56:09.780 Like the study that says eating ice cream for breakfast helps improve mental health.

00:56:14.260 Good.

00:56:14.960 I don't want to read anymore.

00:56:16.260 I don't want to know anymore.

00:56:17.120 I just want to live with that headline.

00:56:18.740 Right.

00:56:18.860 Sounds good.

00:56:19.660 It's good.

00:56:20.340 It's too good to check.

00:56:21.840 It is.

00:56:22.460 It's just, I don't want to know the information.

00:56:24.300 Sure.

00:56:24.720 The background probably says you'll die of something else, but your mental health is better.

00:56:28.360 Yeah.

00:56:28.880 Sure.

00:56:29.320 The background says something about probably not, but don't know.

00:56:33.340 Just go with the headline.

00:56:34.320 Just read the headline and move on.

00:56:35.500 The headline.

00:56:35.920 We also have health officials are warning McDonald's customers to get vaccinated amid hepatitis outbreak

00:56:41.980 in Arkansas.

00:56:43.920 I don't want to know about it.

00:56:44.740 Well, I don't live in Arkansas, thankfully.

00:56:46.400 No.

00:56:46.640 And it doesn't have anything to do with McDonald's.

00:56:48.960 And sure, McDonald's customers are firing guns at employees because they got an order

00:56:54.240 of cold fries.

00:56:55.400 Sure.

00:56:55.800 That's happening.

00:56:56.460 I don't want to know why.

00:56:57.380 I don't want to know where it was.

00:56:58.300 I just want to know.

00:56:59.560 Understandable on that one, though.

00:57:00.540 Thank you.

00:57:01.460 Thank you.

00:57:02.640 That's one of those I think everybody can understand.

00:57:04.680 What movie was that?

00:57:05.420 Was it Falling Down with Michael Douglas, right?

00:57:08.200 Remember that?

00:57:08.920 Yeah.

00:57:09.100 And I remember that was one of those things where he came up and wanted to get breakfast

00:57:12.820 and it was like two minutes after the breakfast deadline and he just starts threatening everyone.

00:57:17.480 And it was one of those movies that's like, that's definitely a crime, but I'm rooting

00:57:21.100 for him.

00:57:21.800 Everyone's for it.

00:57:22.260 I'm rooting for him.

00:57:23.200 Everyone's for it.

00:57:24.140 Just like we're getting a petition now that I think I'm for.

00:57:26.880 I'm almost for this petition that wants to change the date of Halloween.

00:57:31.120 They've got almost 100,000 signatures now.

00:57:33.740 They want to change it to the last Saturday in October instead of October 31st.

00:57:40.280 I think I could be for that.

00:57:42.500 That's interesting.

00:57:43.580 I think I could be for that.

00:57:45.180 Obviously, the people that are starting the petition are hawking their Halloween wares

00:57:49.500 and want people to buy all their Halloween stuff.

00:57:51.600 But I kind of like the idea of it being on the last Saturday of the month and not just

00:57:56.360 in the middle of the week whenever October 31st falls in.

00:57:59.120 Yeah, having kids too.

00:58:00.040 I mean, that would be a nice little change.

00:58:03.840 Even with or without kids.

00:58:05.440 I mean, I don't like going out during the week.

00:58:06.800 I'd rather do it on Saturday.

00:58:09.680 You are the creepy guy that shows up at everybody's door begging for candy, aren't you?

00:58:13.040 I will say this.

00:58:15.040 As someone who I have a six and a seven-year-old kid, and they go out trick-or-treating every

00:58:24.000 year.

00:58:25.160 And the decrease in the percentage of or the amount of kids that are out on the streets

00:58:31.980 trick-or-treating from when I remember going out as a kid, I mean, it's got to be 70% less

00:58:37.000 people.

00:58:37.860 It does seem less.

00:58:39.140 It seems like it's way less.

00:58:40.360 Now, I know they have more of these events, like the trunk-or-treat thing, and maybe that's

00:58:44.720 where kids go now more often.

00:58:46.380 But I mean, I want to take them out old school, trick-or-treating.

00:58:49.060 You're walking door-to-door.

00:58:50.320 I want you tired.

00:58:51.340 I want that bag on your shoulder.

00:58:53.180 I want you to, by the end of it, like you're passed out in a candy coma.

00:58:57.040 Like, I want that whole experience.

00:58:58.600 Plus, I've raised my children on how to get more candy than all the other children.

00:59:02.280 If you want to talk about Halloween, the secret to Halloween.

00:59:04.300 Now, I hate to say this on the air, man, because it gives up, this is a good plan.

00:59:08.560 This works every time.

00:59:10.280 All right.

00:59:10.700 You always bring an extra bag as a parent, okay, to carry.

00:59:14.220 So when your kids go up to trick-or-treat and they have a little bit of candy, oh, did

00:59:19.580 you guys just get started?

00:59:20.760 And they give you more.

00:59:22.260 So when your kids come back to the sidewalk, you take the candy and put it in your bag so

00:59:26.580 the kid only has a little bit in theirs.

00:59:28.460 So every door they go to is trick-or-treat.

00:59:30.980 Oh, did you guys just get started?

00:59:32.700 And they give you more.

00:59:33.380 That is brilliant on multiple levels.

00:59:35.740 Because first of all, you're, of course, counting people into extra candy.

00:59:39.500 No, no.

00:59:39.920 I'm just helping my children so they don't have to carry such a weight of candy, Stu.

00:59:44.300 Sure.

00:59:44.880 And the second part of that is you've now apprehended all of your child's candy.

00:59:49.200 So now you can just sit there and eat your fill while they think they're getting extra.

00:59:54.060 And they come back and they're like, that's actually less than I got last year.

00:59:57.360 That's a shame.

00:59:58.440 That's a shame, kids.

00:59:59.680 It's a sad outcome.

01:00:00.500 I will say the best Halloween costume I ever had when I was a kid was a three-headed skeleton.

01:00:08.780 Oh, nice.

01:00:09.200 So my head is the middle skeleton.

01:00:11.200 And then the two on the shoulders are inflatable skeletons.

01:00:14.400 Okay.

01:00:14.560 So it's a three-headed skeleton.

01:00:16.500 And that doesn't sound like any amazing, you know, costume until you walk up and you're with someone who's dressed in some other costume.

01:00:26.260 They give them one candy bar and they say, hey, you got three heads.

01:00:29.700 I guess I got to give you three.

01:00:31.420 And they do.

01:00:32.500 I didn't know they said they do.

01:00:32.980 Right in front of the other people.

01:00:34.120 Oh, it's amazing.

01:00:36.380 This is a sort of innovation.

01:00:38.440 That's a good plan.

01:00:39.200 I mean, it's a wonder how we're both overweight.

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