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00:00:00.000 hello podcasters it's uh tuesday we've got a great show for you um i'm gonna start at the ending with

00:00:05.960 yeah believe it or not will smith he may not be black enough to play a role oh absolutely you

00:00:13.460 have to have the exact shade of skin yeah to match the actor and we're finding out that now

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00:00:23.120 that he happens to be so we urge you to get your color wheel out from sherman williams and we're

00:00:28.360 going to start we're going to match uh actors to the roles uh and make sure we get exactly the right

00:00:34.660 color um and we'll really amazing we'll tell you about that we have some on the michael jackson

00:00:39.060 thing uh today there's the documentary wrapped up we have gotta watch that i can't believe you

00:00:43.240 haven't watched it yet it's crazy it's a big commitment it's four hours uh so i can watch

00:00:46.980 it a little highlights yeah now i've seen some clips it looks very disturbing we get into that

00:00:51.200 we get into socialism uh the myths of socialism from the washington post we also have uh dave

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00:01:36.740 all right uh so the the washington post has come out with five myths about socialism

00:01:47.260 yeah uh and then this is important for you to understand a lot of people in the audience

00:01:51.620 are conservatives going they're not going to get this they they've been told all these lies

00:01:56.580 and now they need to know the truth myth number one socialism is a single coherent ideology now at

00:02:03.760 no point did i ever consider socialism to be coherent uh that's important right that was the word i

00:02:08.520 yeah that was the word i focused on too very strange but uh they talk about they give examples

00:02:14.040 of people who are saying crazy things like uh you know democratic socialists uh columnist jenna

00:02:19.580 ellis wrote in the washington examiner all are precursors to full-blown marxist leninist

00:02:23.940 communism editorial investor investors business daily all forms of socialism are the same

00:02:29.520 many attacks on socialism as well polls uh gauging its uh surprising popularity take for granted that

00:02:35.600 it's a unified philosophy you know again not coherent but unified yet socialism this is from the

00:02:41.600 washington post has multiple meanings and interpretations which have to be disentangled

00:02:45.460 before a discussion about its merits can begin you can't just judge it glenn it's too nice one

00:02:51.080 distinction centers on whether socialism is a system that must supplant capitalism or one that

00:02:56.040 can harness the market's immense productive capacity for progressive ends really socialism is about how

00:03:03.080 you can take capitalism and make it work better really that would be that would be interesting to a lot

00:03:09.100 of socialists carl marx who predicted the historical forces would inevitably lead to capitalism's demise

00:03:15.020 into government's control of industry was the most famous proponent of the first type of socialism

00:03:19.440 so that's just like all right the history forces of history going to change this capitalism can't last

00:03:25.340 long enough that's the marx one then you've got vladimir lenin who said he wanted a revolutionary

00:03:30.160 vanguard to destroy capitalism that's type number two according to the post and by the way he was a

00:03:35.460 democratic socialist um just because people were afraid of communists he said we are too that's why we're a

00:03:42.900 democratic socialist totally different totally different as we saw with the multiple decades

00:03:48.360 afterwards sure other socialists however did not accept the violent undemocratic nature of that

00:03:53.380 course right those were called progressives although they agree that capitalism was unjust and unstable

00:03:58.780 the left's role in the view of these democratic socialists the czech-austrian theorist carl kotsky

00:04:04.800 for for instance was to remind citizens of capitalism's defects and rally popular support for an

00:04:11.540 alternative economic system that would end private ownership and assert popular control over the means

00:04:18.020 of production i would say once again glenn these first three categories there is no distinction as

00:04:23.400 to what they are it's just the means of how to get there how fast do we go right right mark says it'll

00:04:28.580 happen over a bunch of years with history because capitalism will fail lenin says it's got to be a

00:04:32.900 revolution kotsky says ah well you know what we'll have a uh we'll we'll tell everybody how bad capitalism

00:04:38.880 is they'll realize it and then come to our way it all ends in the end of production as far as private

00:04:43.620 could i just go to the webster's dictionary now i honestly search for this thinking well it's not

00:04:49.260 going to say that they've changed everything right so here is the current online merriam webster's

00:04:55.680 dictionary definition of socialism socialism any of various economic and political theories

00:05:03.120 advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and

00:05:10.060 distribution of goods to a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

00:05:17.360 to be a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned or controlled by

00:05:23.780 the state oh well i can't see the last one because uh i just won a new ipad oh congratulations

00:05:30.340 that's fantastic i don't need to i don't need to win ipads though because i i keep getting these

00:05:36.280 wonderful inheritances from princes in uh nigeria yeah and i can buy as many as i want as soon as the

00:05:42.140 cash comes in sure sure well i can't read the last one okay but you get to get the point there uh here

00:05:46.920 here's how again you see all those would be what everyone thinks is social socialism right so they

00:05:52.800 need to come up with a way to make ocasio-cortez seem okay and her approach so although sanders bernie 0.97

00:05:58.360 sanders and ocasio-cortez embrace the term democratic socialist the policies they advocate

00:06:03.220 place them much closer to yet another socialist tradition social democracy now these are totally

00:06:09.060 different because democratic socialists and social democracy have the same words in different

00:06:13.980 orders yes which is totally different totally different when it's social democracy or democratic

00:06:22.140 socialism just like national socialism is totally different than social nationalism if the nazis came

00:06:29.900 back today and said they were social nationalists we'd all embrace them yes surely yes we would okay

00:06:35.340 so um uh social democrats say it's possible and desirable to reform capitalism this tradition

00:06:43.160 hold on just a second that does not say that in the actual bills that they are now trying to pass

00:06:50.720 it says an end of capitalism right we've seen we've read we've read you column after column from

00:06:57.520 actual democratic socialists who say very clearly what they want to do is capitalism green the new

00:07:02.800 green deal says they're going to reform not the not the thing that it caused you according to the actual

00:07:07.840 bill it was ridiculous this tradition dominated the post-world war ii european left and influenced

00:07:13.560 the american democratic party most notably during the progressive era and the new deal inspiring

00:07:20.000 social security unemployment insurance and the eight-hour workday this is exactly what uh the

00:07:27.400 democratic socialists don't want you to think they are they've told us specifically that this is not

00:07:33.300 they're not just new deal democrats they're much further than that and they are in their own words

00:07:38.860 trying to like put a little shine on there and say you know what they're saying they're socialists but

00:07:43.660 in reality they just want switzerland or sweden that's all they want they wanted some big programs

00:07:50.000 they love capitalism everything's fine they're just using you got to understand bernie sanders an

00:07:55.160 ideologue for 50 years pushing for this cause just doesn't understand the terms he's using that is

00:08:02.260 legitimately their case now you can certainly make a case like that over ocasio cortez who doesn't seem

00:08:07.780 to understand the words that she's speaking on numerous occasions per day but bernie sanders doesn't

00:08:13.400 understand socialism i mean that is it's insulting to the 947 year old bernie sanders and that's just

00:08:20.560 myth number one myth number two is socialism and democracy are incompatible uh in a speech last month

00:08:27.640 crisis in venezuela trump argued socialism must always give rise to tyranny socialism is pseudoscience

00:08:32.960 enforced by political tyranny i wrote the heritage foundations blah blah communists reject democracy

00:08:38.580 of course but other socialists have strongly supported it look it always starts as democratic

00:08:44.880 unless it's a revolution it is always starts as democratic in fact maduro was a democratically

00:08:54.600 elected president of venezuela normal guy a bus driver he was democratically elected then he decided

00:09:02.720 you know what i don't like this democratic election thing i'm gonna fix it now he's a dictator

00:09:09.320 the best of the glenn beck program

00:09:14.000 so last night i finished watching the um the documentary about uh finding neverland

00:09:25.920 um and yesterday at this time i said i i believe them but it was weird and i wanted an answer from

00:09:35.880 the parents i couldn't how did the parents not know etc etc um then i watched part two on hbo's documentary

00:09:45.100 and there is no doubt in my mind that these guys um at least 100 believe it and the families believe it

00:10:00.220 i happen to believe them that this happened but you know a documentary you're only seeing one side

00:10:06.020 um however they completely rang true and it's not just these guys it is their families as well

00:10:15.400 and the way it is disrupted these families and torn these families apart

00:10:20.240 they're just not that good of actors you you couldn't fake this interview do you agree yeah and

00:10:27.480 i don't i don't know why you would i mean i guess if there was money involved but for them

00:10:31.280 they're not getting any money they're not getting money from it the statute of limitations is already

00:10:36.140 up especially not after this like you could theoretically go to the family and try to

00:10:39.720 harass them to give you a giant check but i mean after you're on tv and the documentary is over they're

00:10:44.280 not going to give you any money i think they kind of tried that i think robson uh went after uh the

00:10:49.420 jackson estate in 2013 or 14 and failed and it was thrown out of court because of the statute of

00:10:55.520 limitations and so they're from that standpoint there's not much to gain

00:11:00.280 and you've sort of then created this thing that i don't i don't think you'd want that

00:11:06.920 on no when you on your reputation when you were watching uh they didn't they didn't enjoy saying

00:11:14.320 any of this no that you could you could feel it i mean when he was talking yesterday robson the guy

00:11:22.180 who was you know he did all of the choreography for britney spears and in sync and everybody he's

00:11:28.480 actually he's turned into somebody um and i watched it and in the first episode he's talking about you

00:11:36.360 know how much he michael and he loved each other at the time and it was very bizarre um spoke about

00:11:43.500 that last night too yeah he did and the reason why he said i testified in his behalf was first

00:11:50.780 the first time um because michael had asked him and they loved each other and and michael had

00:11:57.740 gotten out of his life and then he was suddenly back in and he wanted the attention from michael and

00:12:04.280 michael was like had told him from day one since he was seven you know we'll both go to jail we can't

00:12:10.700 let them divide us and um and then the second time he testified later um he tried not to he said to

00:12:19.640 michael i'm done i'm out i don't want to be involved in this anymore and michael's team actually

00:12:27.140 subpoenaed him and once he was his sister said michael can't go to jail he won't he won't survive in

00:12:33.640 jail and that resonated with him yeah he said he that that they went to michael's house for dinner the

00:12:40.160 whole family before and uh he said i saw michael and he said he was a shell of a person and he's

00:12:47.460 like my sister was right he'd die in prison within days and i just didn't want him to go to prison and

00:12:53.580 die in prison he also does a really good job i think of explaining that the first trial when he was

00:13:00.140 11 he didn't consider it abuse he considered it an expression of you know as sick as it is an expression

00:13:08.620 of love from michael a 35 year old man to an 11 year old boy i mean it's sad but that's what his

00:13:16.720 mind made of it all yeah i mean he was basically in a alternate universe right i mean like where rules

00:13:24.300 are completely different yeah he's not going to understand right as a kid it's the most powerful

00:13:28.800 celebrity on the planet and he loves you and he said i looked at him like a dad and your mom keeps

00:13:35.740 letting you go over there right right so i mean like it all kind of aligns in your mind as this

00:13:40.820 might be something that other people don't understand but and and the pain that they expressed

00:13:45.940 in last night's episode uh was truly genuine the other guy had nervous breakdowns right yeah in fact

00:13:55.600 too for robson and uh james safe check was kind of in a perpetual state of breakdown yeah i felt bad

00:14:02.180 for him in his adult years he was really messed up from this and there was no remember he didn't

00:14:09.020 come out and try to sue the the michael jackson estate for anything he never came out he only came

00:14:15.740 out after um robson came out right and he came out and said okay i have to talk to you because this

00:14:25.220 happened to me too and he couldn't figure out why he was so depressed and screwed up 0.58

00:14:31.720 and why he hated himself right and he and he couldn't put it together and he couldn't make

00:14:37.540 sense of what had happened to him with jackson uh and um and then robson came out and then they

00:14:45.660 started to communicate and it was the same story i mean it's amazing how exactly the same those stories

00:14:52.160 were yeah you know what else was amazing to me is after the first trial in 93 whenever that was 93 94

00:14:59.500 uh and they had both been ignored mostly by jackson for months or years at a time and then after they

00:15:09.840 both testified he was back in both their lives and big time and calling him every day again and having

00:15:15.960 come over again and he picked up right where he left off with the sexual abuse even after the first

00:15:22.980 trial unbelievable i mean that's incredible really is bizarre i mean if you can't trust a millionaire

00:15:28.440 musician to care for your child when he's sleeping over at his amusement park for a few months right

00:15:33.100 who can you trust no well that was the thing that i found interesting the mother from australia

00:15:38.140 robson's mother um is she's i mean this added so much credibility because she's been ostracized from

00:15:46.620 her son now she's taking on all of the guilt um the daughter is mad at the mother the other brother

00:15:54.100 is mad at all of it uh and it just destroyed this family and then there's another family the dad

00:16:01.640 committed suicide yeah and then there's another family who's uh who lived in california that they

00:16:09.320 bought him you know michael jackson bought him a house and everything else and they really considered

00:16:14.620 them family if you watch how they how they set up the story in the first episode they just thought

00:16:21.760 michael jackson was part of the family and mom when mom found out that this was happening she went nuts

00:16:29.320 she went nuts uh she said she danced when she found out he he was dead um she she really

00:16:38.620 she took it i think appropriately she blamed herself for not seeing it um as well she should

00:16:46.460 as and and she blamed michael jackson yeah as well she should right it's a part one was one of the

00:16:55.600 creepiest most disturbing things i've ever seen i i don't watch a lot of disturbing shows uh

00:17:02.440 but this one was maybe the most disturbing i've ever seen i didn't i didn't see schindler's

00:17:09.400 schindler's schindler's list so i i don't know that i mean that was a little more disturbing yeah

00:17:15.500 considerably more disturbing yes but i haven't seen that so this was one of the i mean you just feel

00:17:20.820 icky after it yeah jackie couldn't do it for part two but part two wasn't as bad part two wasn't as

00:17:26.720 bad part two was you could probably watch part two and get the gist uh of everything yeah probably

00:17:34.300 but without watching all of the graphic details that you hear in in the first part which is so bad

00:17:40.140 because these little kids yeah when you're seeing pictures of these kids this kid was six six when he

00:17:47.360 was first introduced to michael jackson and you see him uh you see the videotape of him going back

00:17:54.260 to australia and being on like good morning australia and you know michael gave me this hat

00:17:59.980 and everything else and you know that michael had abused that kid you know he talks about what had

00:18:06.460 happened on that trip to see michael and then he's abused then he goes back and you see this little

00:18:12.140 teeny kid on television you're like oh my gosh yeah so it's phenomenal curious because i did not

00:18:19.560 see any of it um what happens now our system of uh of justice is a documentary is made and then we

00:18:27.760 figure out whether they're guilty or not and then we make judgments like for example like you know

00:18:32.140 bill cosby like there or or r kelly and we pull all their music and their shows off the air never to be

00:18:37.860 seen again that's happening is that happening with michael jackson you think yes supposedly bbc2

00:18:41.960 banned his music but they say they didn't uh but it hasn't been played um since i don't think we

00:18:49.520 should do anything because of this documentary uh except learn except learn but i mean so michael

00:18:57.480 jackson and his you know his state estate doesn't get punished now that we have extensive evidence that

00:19:04.360 he committed horrific crimes they're just gonna keep playing like we're gonna defend we're gonna

00:19:08.460 play in pyt like it's no big deal and like we don't know what's going on defense he's not here

00:19:14.900 to defend himself in the closet it's gonna keep running uh you know with the lyrics the lyrics of

00:19:21.380 that are incredible oh man uh but like i mean is that what happens because i mean it's one thing to

00:19:26.920 ban r kelly's music right right it's not that big of a deal no in a cultural way i mean i guess it

00:19:32.760 is michael jackson that's michael jackson's you know a lot of music it's the band it's a it's an

00:19:37.720 entire era of music and not to mention it influenced the next era of music i mean he was what do you do

00:19:44.340 with that i mean they sample his song and how many other songs do you know excised as well i mean

00:19:50.460 i think you still listen to his music i think his music is good um he's dead so he's not hurting

00:19:59.300 anybody anymore he's dead i'm not glorifying him by listening to his music i am listening to his

00:20:05.820 music because his music was good um and it was part of our culture for so long i still watch the

00:20:12.760 cosby show with my kids you know i didn't tell them until it was all over you know hey by the way

00:20:18.140 you know he's not such a good rapist yeah he was uh he went to he went to prison uh but the cosby show

00:20:26.180 is still really good i mean what's crazy about that is that entire decade i mean the two things

00:20:34.080 you would use to define that decade culturally would be michael jackson and the cosby show

00:20:38.500 yeah right like those number one show and the number one artist yeah and they're both

00:20:43.000 completely destroyed now crazy it's amazing i mean that whole just that whole era is just gone

00:20:50.040 yeah not reagan no i mean that's what i mean not marty mcfly

00:20:55.080 yeah no that's that's true we'll always have marty mcfly yeah we will have we will we will always

00:21:02.860 have marty mcfly star wars uh empire strikes back yes star wars would certainly i don't know i love

00:21:09.220 back to the future but i don't know if we put back to the future is that the lead of of that decade

00:21:13.560 culturally no not the lead not as big as michael jackson but still star wars though pretty obviously

00:21:18.760 would be there i would say in the 80s uh back to the future was huge it's pretty defining it's

00:21:26.740 iconic it's not star wars though no no i mean cosby show was like the star wars of television of that

00:21:33.340 era was it not i mean it was the biggest show safe to say yeah i think that's safe and that is like

00:21:38.460 and that's gone and michael jackson was the star wars of music and now that's gone i mean madonna

00:21:43.680 was huge too but i mean michael jackson was i would say the peak of that and like they said multiple

00:21:47.680 times during the special uh there's no one like that today and we may never well i don't think we'll

00:21:54.200 ever have a star no because everything's so big it's too everything's too fragmented yeah uh-huh you

00:21:58.700 know you can be a huge star in a little pool over off to the side that's not even little but you can

00:22:03.900 be a huge star and half the country have no idea who you are where even i think we were the last

00:22:11.180 generation bill o'reilly glenn beck sean annity um we were the last of the people on cable news

00:22:18.220 that were big across the whole country it's not like that anymore no i mean doing christmas shopping

00:22:25.920 this past year go you go down the toy aisle of target or you know whatever toy store is open and

00:22:30.980 still selling toys in a in a place every freaking other toy has the face of some kid that your kid

00:22:38.700 watches on youtube on it these are all just like kids who open up presents and and and their whole

00:22:44.860 thing is they review toys or whatever those are their faces today are all over the place and i 90

00:22:50.320 percent of this audience has never seen them at all but if you have little kids that's what they

00:22:55.000 watch and those are the celebrities right now it's an entire entirely parallel culture that is built

00:23:00.520 and they all have deals with like mattel like all of the their their faces are on every toy in the

00:23:06.560 aisle you know who they also have deals with you know who their represents them in most cases

00:23:11.760 ellen oh really ellen goes out satan no ellen ellen goes out and uh her team looks for the next big 0.98

00:23:22.960 little kid stars and reps them and gets them these deals and then brings them on the show probably

00:23:29.740 brings them on the show introduces to the parents yeah and then makes money off of the kids she's 0.98

00:23:35.220 too smart that's annoying yeah she's annoyingly smart yeah 1.00

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00:23:59.880 but while you're there do us a favor and rate the show darnell bird mcpherson

00:24:04.620 she's the mayor of lamar south carolina she's the volunteer mayor i don't know what that means

00:24:13.280 do you just i think that means she calls herself the mayor but isn't actually the mayor i i have a

00:24:18.840 feeling that could be it or everybody just stands around is like anybody want to do this job

00:24:23.540 i do all right anyway she says she was a victim of a hate crime after she found yellow six a sticky

00:24:33.240 substance that had been sprayed on her car early last month mcpherson had returned to her home

00:24:40.620 february 7th and told newsweek magazine that her husband went out to get some things out of the

00:24:47.480 garage and the car they had both left their car outside of the garage the night before and he came

00:24:54.520 in and said somebody has painted our cars she went out she said it was a grainy substance like an

00:25:01.940 industrial spray foam used to patch concrete uh news in like a like a swastika well i mean newsweek

00:25:11.640 said it looked like little pebbles and the stuff was also on her husband's car mcpherson told newsweek

00:25:18.740 she said it was a hate crime because number one there is a history of racism in our little town of

00:25:25.240 lamar which i think you want i think you want the mayor of lamar going out and saying oh you know

00:25:32.140 when you think of lamar think hate crimes i think you move it right over to the tourism bureau right

00:25:36.420 because that's uh really nice by the way that's not how our justice system works i don't know if

00:25:40.220 anyone understands that yeah you know you're like you know what well there was a crime uh in this town

00:25:45.820 50 years ago so that must mean this is a hate crime today so she says it's a hate crime because number

00:25:51.160 one history during the 70s crosses were burned in the yards of uh of our home when my mother was

00:25:57.240 involved with the civil rights movement it's the very same corner in this very same front yard so it

00:26:03.040 happened in the 1970s and it was on the same location so i think if it's only a few decades and

00:26:09.180 it's the same corner you automatically assume it's a hate crime her statement noted the incident happened

00:26:14.020 last night uh my husband uh and i uh and our neighbor and noticed that the cars looked like

00:26:22.360 someone had spray painted both of our vehicles which were parked right in our front yard she said

00:26:28.080 it ignited the same fear in my spirit my god who would do that i thought it was it was something it

00:26:35.120 was it was unnerving to me and while no words or symbols were drawn with the substance she told the

00:26:42.360 magazine to me hate was the message newsweek said mcpherson had no possible motives for a person or

00:26:51.480 people targeting her she said i really have a good reputation i've never been subjected to something

00:26:57.320 like this

00:26:58.280 now she called the sheriff the sheriff came

00:27:06.560 sheriff uh sheriff sheriff's office lieutenant robbie kilgo told newsweek

00:27:14.640 that uh when they call were called out um there wasn't a reason for us to collect a sample

00:27:24.560 because it was pollen it wasn't even paint she had left her car which was normally in the garage

00:27:34.380 outside and it was pollen

00:27:38.860 now

00:27:41.640 so she got pollen on her car and reported a hate crime yeah well who would do that it was a sticky

00:27:48.120 yellow substance that was covering both her and her husband's car right but again like why would

00:27:53.280 you there wasn't a swastika obviously what was the 1970 they were burning crosses on that corner

00:27:59.800 you're saying that they're not going to put a pollen like substance on her car

00:28:04.780 look she knew i am saying it was hate although who knows mother nature might be wearing a hood

00:28:11.900 you don't you don't know you don't know you don't know um mcpherson has said she does have another

00:28:18.860 possible suspect in mind wait she's still sticking with this after the pollen thing you don't know the 0.79

00:28:25.080 rest of the story there was a police officer unnamed there was a police officer who came to me and said

00:28:32.080 quote there are rumors out there that someone's trying to assassinate you

00:28:38.740 so she has asked local law enforcement to file a complaint about the death threat as well as the

00:28:47.880 yellow sticky stuff that the police strangely didn't want to take a sample of

00:28:54.240 she says she thinks the police are doing this to her uh they've no they just they just are turning

00:29:02.620 their their eyes away from somebody who is spraying pollen all over her car she said i don't care about 1.00

00:29:09.920 my car anymore what i want is my life so there's your there's your volunteer mayor

00:29:16.020 from uh from north so she is after the pollen analysis is sticking by the hate crime thing

00:29:23.500 well because it wasn't an analysis the police came and they ran their fingers on the car and her 0.90

00:29:29.800 husband even says yeah it looks like it was pollen they ran the fingers on the car the uh the other

00:29:37.400 neighbors also have reported a strange yellow sticky substance on their cars when they leave it out at

00:29:43.280 night um but uh she is well i should say she i mean she thinks it was something else and she thinks

00:29:51.520 she knows who did it but there's this rumor out that somebody's trying to assassinate her and she

00:29:55.760 doesn't care anymore about the car she wants to know who's trying to assassinate her so we have a 0.75

00:30:01.800 rumored assassination of a volunteer mayor yeah okay yes uh-huh yes this is now you might think that

00:30:09.700 that that has gone too far that our society has gone over the deep end but then i bring you this story

00:30:17.940 jareth nebula 33 has shunned human genders and now wants to be accepted as something else 0.63

00:30:30.380 33 year old a 33 year old who was born a woman but transitioned to become a man

00:30:39.280 when she was 29 and then became a he now believes he doesn't fit into either gender and in fact

00:30:50.780 he has had his nipples removed because always a good move by the way you just don't need them

00:30:58.360 people don't understand this there you just don't need them they're they're like they're like the the

00:31:03.960 tonsil just remove it whenever your first chance your first chance is to just take those things

00:31:09.580 off you just don't need them so i mean no barbie or ken doll has them i mean how do they live right

00:31:15.580 you know i mean like oh this is magically they're the only people who don't need nipples no no one

00:31:19.740 needs them amen brothers amen so he has taken his nipples off and shaves his eyebrows because 0.89

00:31:26.460 those things make him feel human he claims now that he belongs to another planet i tend to agree i i tend

00:31:38.280 to agree as well uh he's now living alone and wants people to hey what you're you that's a stunning

00:31:48.700 development yeah no he's well there's nobody else like him you know on this planet right yeah there are

00:31:56.080 many like him in the universe but uh not a lot not a lot like him so uh anyway he has he just wants

00:32:04.740 people to accept who he is and he would prefer if everybody called him a thing or it rather than he

00:32:13.280 or she now he that's the least we can do for this nippleless it he or it has legally changed its name 1.00

00:32:22.120 four years ago after coming out as transgender he said it said i firmly believe at that time

00:32:30.540 that i finally found myself but then i was wrong i wasn't male i wasn't female i wasn't even human

00:32:39.880 i don't think or feel like humans i can't really explain it to others because i'm simply

00:32:48.360 otherworldly but i didn't feel comfortable as either gender or anything in between i i know i'm stuck in

00:32:57.700 a human form and that's how i'm perceived by others but i am an alien without a gender

00:33:04.360 uh giraffe says he didn't fit in when he was uh diagnosed with eds which is a lifelong condition

00:33:14.120 affecting connective tissue and resulting in stretchy skin and an increased range of joint

00:33:19.660 mobility uh he was born with this uh condition but not diagnosed until he was 26 he has been

00:33:26.300 nicknamed mr elastic which has got to hurt i'm just i'm upset they're calling him mr that's what i mean

00:33:34.080 i mean just you can call it it elastic elastic um he was nicknamed mr elastic by his doctors

00:33:42.960 due to his stretchy skin a condition that causes him chronic pain um he said it's it's one benefit

00:33:52.720 that he has as an alien because his skin is wrinkle free and it makes him appear younger than he really

00:33:59.260 is now i don't know no word yet on how old he really is he may be thousands of years old fair

00:34:07.580 point um jareth does not want to disclose his birth name he said that can it's birth name it's sorry

00:34:14.660 it's birth name uh now i realize it says why i could pop my uh joints out on purpose it was a fun party

00:34:24.160 trick as a kid uh but that happens to me not because of eds but because i'm an alien

00:34:32.560 if you are any democratic presidential candidate running in 2020 why what other reaction is there to

00:34:45.860 this then well that's just wonderful and i accept him for what he says he it sorry what what it says

00:34:54.200 it is an alien with stretchy skin and the ability to disconnect all joints at any time because he's

00:35:01.220 thousands of years old and i mean that seriously it really is what their stance would have to be

00:35:08.900 why on earth would you accept a man transitioning to a woman and just by a feeling in their head as i 0.63

00:35:17.520 believe ellen described it gender is just a feeling that you have in your head if this person has a 1.00

00:35:24.020 feeling in its head that it is an alien why wouldn't you accept it no you'd have to you have to to be

00:35:33.840 to be consistent you have to accept that that is what it says it is now here's the question is it

00:35:40.520 is it more compassionate to just to go along and call her who transitioned to him and is now it so call

00:35:53.680 her it is it more compassionate to go you know what yep you're from outer space you're in it and you

00:36:02.740 should have your nipples removed and you should do all of these crazy things to your body you should 0.99

00:36:07.120 you should do that is that more compassionate or is it more compassionate say

00:36:11.320 you you there there there is you need help you need help you need help and and then there is therapy

00:36:20.840 that can possibly help you i i can understand that you really feel this way because i really i really

00:36:30.340 understand i've had clinical depression and i know the power of the mind and what the mind can do

00:36:38.020 but the more you think you're an an otherworldly alien oh my gosh the more you will believe you're

00:36:46.920 an otherworldly alien and that's not healthy so your question is is hate more compassionate

00:36:51.480 is what you just did which was hate more compassionate right i'm well the next thing you

00:36:56.940 know i'm going to say that on the radio the next thing you know i'm going to be taking pollen and

00:37:00.340 spraying it all over his car

00:37:01.780 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:37:10.060 so dave i say is a friend of the program and uh he is the founder and president of story core

00:37:26.760 and story core is uh this amazing thing that usually runs on npr and it's it's to me it's

00:37:36.300 tragically sad because it tells an american story and like everything else the word the country is

00:37:44.140 divided and so we have these we have these american stories and they become the stories of the left or

00:37:50.680 american stories become the stories of the right no they're american stories and uh

00:37:56.720 dave has uh been strong enough uh to make an appointment with me i don't know about six months

00:38:05.640 ago and say glenn we're starting something new and we really want to invite your audience to

00:38:12.360 participate in this so it's it is an a truly an american story because we have to start listening

00:38:18.440 to each other and i welcome uh dave i say to the program dave glenn great to be back yeah thanks

00:38:24.760 what story are you going to share with us today uh i i think we're we're sharing today the um

00:38:30.960 as you said story core has been around for 15 years and for um half a million people who know

00:38:38.080 and love each other have have come and recorded an interview with one another and we have we started

00:38:43.320 uh very recently what i came to talk to you about this project one small step where we're bringing

00:38:48.160 people across the political divides into a story core booth where these interviews go to the library of

00:38:53.200 congress so your great great great grandkids can get to know you through your voice and story

00:38:57.120 building people bringing people across the divides to the booth um just to remember that uh that we're

00:39:04.200 people we're just people um and i think dave the the secret to this is perhaps that it is being

00:39:11.760 recorded for the library of congress and nobody wants to be remembered as being a jerk 150 years from now

00:39:18.560 that's exactly right i mean i think part of the secret secret sauce here is that it's in so many

00:39:23.300 ways the opposite of twitter um because you realize that that you know this is how your great

00:39:28.340 grandchildren are going to hear you so you want to be your best self and that's who you know that's

00:39:33.280 that's who we are we're born you know we're one of the lessons of story core is the basic you know

00:39:39.520 goodness of people and how similar we all are to one another so this is i i thought i'd play a very

00:39:44.640 early one small step test interview uh uh today and this is um this is uh from boston um and it's

00:39:53.220 a 29 year old woman named jen stanley who's a writer and her father peter who works in construction

00:39:59.240 uh who's conservative and uh they came together we're focusing now on strangers in one small step

00:40:05.100 but this was a family interview just to see what would happen uh what could happen when we put family

00:40:09.900 members together in this safe space to feel free to have a thoughtful and honest conversation here it

00:40:15.800 is i try to not bring up politics but you always watch five o'clock news and the minute any politician

00:40:24.680 steps on it doesn't matter who it is i just cringe and too yeah but you have to say something whereas

00:40:30.160 i would like to just pretend it's not happening but maybe the answer is we don't watch the news when

00:40:35.180 you're there maybe but now i feel like we've gotten to this point where we're together and

00:40:40.160 we're fighting about politics and those would be the times when i hear you say i can't even talk to

00:40:44.280 you dad if you're going to get so angry and flip out about it then you know what i'd rather you didn't

00:40:48.960 talk to me but see this is what drives me crazy though you start these conversations well i ask questions

00:40:55.140 what do you think about this and what do you think about that it's me trying to glean information

00:41:00.980 from somebody who is significantly more educated than i am and whose opinions i trust i'm really

00:41:08.760 surprised to hear you say that i i had no idea that you were genuinely interested in what i had to say

00:41:14.840 i thought that you wanted to tell me how i was wrong and also make a joke about how i was silly

00:41:20.200 well i would never feel that way about you i have nothing but respect for you i don't agree with you all

00:41:26.660 the time i don't agree with you most of the time but that's okay we have a lot of things in common

00:41:31.400 and i do know that everything you did when you were a little kid was because you wanted to be like me

00:41:36.240 you even played softball which you hated because i love baseball really hate it i mean i just really

00:41:44.420 worshipped you dad i just thought that like everything that you thought and said was right and you were

00:41:50.500 just my best friend but i think as i got older i realized that you were really wrong about a lot of

00:41:57.400 things well you're probably right jen i never professed to be right about everything the important

00:42:04.180 thing in our relationship is that you have your own beliefs and that i respect you for your beliefs

00:42:11.600 you were raised to be a sensitive caring person and that's exactly who you are you say that and i feel

00:42:19.460 loved but i will say i think you used to like me and i don't necessarily know that you like me anymore

00:42:27.020 oh yeah i like you a lot it doesn't make me feel good that you say that i don't agree with everything

00:42:33.840 you say you do but do i like you yeah you bet i do and i'm extremely proud of you you know when my time

00:42:43.720 comes uh to say yeah my father was a good man we didn't agree politically but uh he was a good man

00:42:51.040 and if you can say that then i'll be happy i don't think that you're right all the time but i think

00:42:58.800 you're the best man well thanks and you're the best dad i bet there's a lot of people that are

00:43:06.420 suffering um with this and wish they could um heal the divide um let me ask you this dave uh i i noticed

00:43:16.440 that their language was very different he never said she was wrong he said over and over again i don't

00:43:23.220 agree with you on everything um but she she said several times and it and it it struck me

00:43:30.800 uh you know i found out that you're very wrong on things um did you notice that and is there

00:43:40.480 is there something to learn from that language you know i i i didn't notice that um you know i think

00:43:48.740 what's happening is is that it's two people who are not who are having a conversation that they

00:43:54.100 haven't had before um and you know it could flip you could have you could have the conservative

00:43:59.340 uh person um using that language and the and the liberal person not i think it just happens to be

00:44:06.020 the dynamic in their ages but but what what what you know what's striking to me do you know which do

00:44:11.940 you know which one is which oh yeah okay yeah so the dad is conservative and the daughter is um is

00:44:18.220 liberal but one of the cool things about these one small step interviews actually is that they're

00:44:22.460 when you when you listen in on these and and we ask people not to talk about politics you know

00:44:27.460 that what all this all this is about is that mother theresa line we've forgotten that we belong

00:44:32.160 to each other just seeing the humanity and people who we disagree with and and i actually think of

00:44:37.340 um i think of the culture of you know you you you got to this you know a minute ago in the intro was

00:44:42.440 stew the culture of fear and disgust and division represents and i don't know if if you agree with

00:44:47.560 me on this but i've come to think especially in the last couple of months it's potentially an

00:44:51.000 extinction level threat to our democracy oh i i agree with you and and and i think that you know

00:44:56.740 what it's our job like with smoking you know smoking at one point was thought of as cool and and sexy

00:45:03.080 and and now being you know kind of being at each other's throats is considered cool and and hip and

00:45:09.240 and i think that um in the same way we have to start looking at at the way we're treating each other

00:45:13.920 uh as as as less than human as as extremely dangerous and not okay um but if you listen

00:45:20.580 into many of these conversations uh you will have no idea who's who's who's on what side um

00:45:25.900 they're just people talking to each other in a way that you never hear anymore which is just being

00:45:30.780 human with each other how do people get involved in this so we are still we're still testing we're

00:45:37.620 hopefully going to go uh and really start scaling this thing over the next six months but come to

00:45:42.280 storycore which is s-t-o-r-y-c-o-r-p-s dot org backslash one small step um which is one word

00:45:49.900 storycore.org backslash one small step uh to sign up and you'll be on a mailing list and as we start

00:45:56.120 to roll this out across the country and um hopefully you know spreading the uh this this idea that it's

00:46:03.540 our patriotic duty to see the humanity and in people we disagree with uh you will be a part of it

00:46:08.300 and you'll be on the you know you'll be on the front lines as we as we take this to the country

00:46:12.420 and and you know again just try and take one small step towards one another again dave thank you so

00:46:18.280 much glenn thank you for having me on you bet dave i say i'll talk to you next month you got it uh he's

00:46:23.300 the founder and president of uh storycore uh and you can follow it at storycore.org

00:46:29.460 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:46:34.460 hey it's glenn and you're listening to the glenn beck program if you like what you're hearing on

00:46:49.060 this show make sure you check out pat gray unleashed it's available wherever you download

00:46:54.420 your favorite podcasts so stew and i are having an argument now about uh the safest place to live

00:47:00.180 and uh i say it's uh you know my town mount vernon washington or bellingham washington where i grew up

00:47:07.100 and uh and he's like wrong completely wrong it's third third best in the country because you were

00:47:14.880 like what come on it has extreme weather every place has something no there's no extreme weather

00:47:20.660 in washington state there's no extreme weather it's just always rainy always always some snow it

00:47:29.220 gets cold it gets below 32 degrees in washington so it gets four inches of snow once in a while once

00:47:34.420 in a blue moon you get 12 12 inches of snow that's a lot it's very slippery everybody just stays at home

00:47:39.780 then it melts we even get snow here and we're in texas yeah actually they list dallas as the worst in

00:47:46.260 the nation the what yeah they say lots of every lots of almost everything but quakes they have

00:47:52.680 twisters hurricane remnants hail wind drought and floods yeah no mudslides you know what guys you

00:48:00.020 shouldn't move to texas i guess that's the uh that's the answer um yeah especially if you're from

00:48:04.480 california but yeah no it's the southeast that's just really the the biggest problem well i mean i

00:48:09.760 remember you know look i moved here for the weather uh mainly uh forget you and your stupid show i 0.91

00:48:15.320 came here because of the weather oh we we we did not do our research on weather oh i just listen to

00:48:19.960 god where should we move oh i did plenty of research about weather uh before coming here uh and i love

00:48:27.220 it i love the weather here i hate the weather here why it's either cold or hot it has like one day

00:48:36.400 we're we'll have it in probably april or may where it's like oh my gosh open the windows it's

00:48:43.640 beautiful this friday the highest 79 79 this and then tomorrow the next day it could be 40 it could

00:48:52.340 be yeah it could be a lot of things glenn but it usually is very cold here now it's like in the 30s

00:48:58.440 right now yeah and then it and then it gets so it goes from cold without really snow or anything

00:49:04.360 you know if you have anything extreme it's ice that's not fun without any there's no sanding for

00:49:11.200 the roads they don't have a salt truck they have nothing if it has ice on the road stay home or

00:49:16.220 you're dead until the sun comes out and it could be 80 the next day it still could be 12 and then in

00:49:25.100 the summer it's like a hundred and you know 102 103 with humidity this is a mass misstatement of fact

00:49:35.100 here no if he's this accurate on i might i might vote for alexandria ocasio-cortez for president if

00:49:40.820 this is your level of analysis um because uh you know you know look it's much better here in the

00:49:47.620 winters than it was up north you don't get you don't get the uh the cold uh you get i mean you

00:49:53.260 have a few days a year where it gets around 30 30 degrees but that was like the best day of the

00:49:58.020 freaking year i know that i know that so i'm not comparing it to new york or to the northeast that

00:50:03.320 sucks everybody knows that well that's where we moved from why wouldn't you be comparing it well

00:50:07.380 you're gonna move someplace why don't you move to someplace like arizona where it's nice oh because

00:50:12.220 arizona doesn't get hot that's true no arizona gets hot but the the other six months out of the

00:50:16.640 year it's paradise no it's very nice as long as it's warm i could deal with it i mean because i'm

00:50:21.920 not moving to california and that's perfect i disagree it doesn't get warm enough in california

00:50:26.380 we went out in california i took a vacation a summer vacation to san diego which san diego is awesome

00:50:30.920 i like san diego it was too cold to even go in the pool it was like 70 i want a summer

00:50:36.020 you just don't like the wind and you probably don't like it was cold at night but it's 70

00:50:42.360 degrees outside as a high temperature it's not swimming weather not to me i'm a wuss i want it

00:50:48.700 to be i want it to be 95 degrees oh i could just hop in the pool it's beautiful you get out you go

00:50:54.240 inside of the air conditioning the average temperature in san diego is 77 degrees and it is perfect

00:51:00.040 perfect it's got a nice breeze some i like great day i like the pacific northwest i like the eat with

00:51:06.940 the west coast where there's no humidity you got a nice breeze going all the time and at night even

00:51:13.140 if it's blistering hot during the day it's not at night the sun goes away and it somehow or another

00:51:19.680 cools down here in texas the sun goes away and it's still a hundred degrees and now you're like what's

00:51:25.880 happening here let me tell you why the sun goes away because kim jong-un has just fired a nuclear 0.90

00:51:29.640 weapon and it can hit you that's how it goes away becomes nuclear winter you like that that's your

00:51:34.920 option there we're in the middle nobody can reach us nobody can get to dallas it's way too far for

00:51:40.440 missiles it's exactly what i'm believing for the rest of my life the word safe i do not think it

00:51:46.360 means what you think it means it is actually listed as the worst i mean we do get tornado warnings

00:51:50.420 sometimes hail for sure it's a big deal here wind oh yeah it's really windy drought sure floods yeah

00:51:58.980 i mean i yeah yeah uh and hurricane remnants i mean you're you're stretching it rains it really

00:52:06.500 houston gets hit really hard with a hurricane and then it rains and we're not affected by yes we do get

00:52:12.000 rain from hurricanes but please it helps us with the drought what you're complaining about everything

00:52:19.280 now i'm a little depressed that's why i'm taking uppers to get rid of the downers right i mean

00:52:25.140 jeez so i don't know i guess i guess you're right though it does look like uh the pacific northwest is

00:52:30.360 the place to avoid extreme weather but then you have to then you have to deal with all of the

00:52:35.500 progressives and the socialists and the crazies and the anarchists and the and the people who were

00:52:40.980 rejected by california california told most of those people get out you're too weird oh i don't think it

00:52:48.880 would be the reverse no all the rejects all the rejects from california it went down like i am just

00:52:54.400 gonna like live and then they got down there and they're like oh my gosh this is just so fake and so

00:53:01.060 then they went up to california went up to oregon and they were like the people in uh portland they

00:53:08.440 don't mean it and so then they moved to seattle and you can't go any farther north and that's what

00:53:14.140 canada built the wall yeah peace arch that bull crap that's a peace arch that's keep your progressive

00:53:21.260 hippies out of our country that's what that is i don't understand those policies are working so well

00:53:26.640 glenn uh like for example the 15 minimum wage uh huge success in seattle really doing really well

00:53:33.400 now every democratic candidate has embraced it as part of their platform yeah except for bernie

00:53:38.580 sanders i will say bernie sanders said at least 15 minimum wage yeah because that's an old school

00:53:43.320 proposal uh there is a new study out about new york city who got to uh 15 minimum wage and uh and

00:53:49.480 there's a and and honestly that's a city that needs one i disagree with that completely but i do

00:53:55.600 understand what your point is yeah i'm not saying that you need a minimum i don't believe in that

00:54:00.600 pay the pay what you what the market bears but compared to you know des moines it does not need

00:54:09.660 a 15 wage new york it is hard to live on 15 there are places that are going to have a 15 minimum wage

00:54:18.020 that that's that's a lot of money for that market right i mean there should not be a we've made this

00:54:23.260 point many times should not definitely not be a federal minimum wage no i don't i don't think

00:54:27.100 minimum wages do anything for the economy or for people anyway but at least you can argue it if you're

00:54:32.240 gonna if you're gonna customize it to an area right the idea that you go to 15 minimum wage

00:54:36.460 nationally is completely insane uh in uh washing excuse me in new york the 15 minimum wage has been

00:54:43.400 implemented it's ramping up now and as it ramps up uh the new york restaurant industry has only

00:54:50.180 experienced the worst decline in restaurant jobs since recorded time right you'd think the depression

00:54:59.300 well i mean most people would say 2008 depression right like we had a major recession in 2008 uh all

00:55:06.240 employment went down dramatically and it did go down in new york with the restaurant uh situation but no

00:55:10.320 this goes back to 9 11 for new york so 9 11 if you remember um half of the island half the island was

00:55:18.560 closed right that was pretty much it uh and in fact the last two 2008 and 2001 were the last two drops

00:55:25.040 both of course occurred in real recessions now as of right now we don't think we're in a recession

00:55:30.300 although the possibility of one seems to rise in probability kind of uh by the day however uh this

00:55:36.980 drop was more dramatic than even the 2008 financial collapse and that's just because uh you know hey

00:55:44.100 they wanted to give a little bit more money uh to the average worker to make a living wage and it

00:55:49.080 felt so good wait how is that killing restaurants well restaurants have to pay these amounts yeah they

00:55:54.980 just charge more yeah no apparently not apparently that's not working out they're just letting

00:55:59.140 they're letting people go and the people of new york don't want to pay more yeah and i think was it

00:56:04.940 cuomo that just came out and said by the way you know here's the other side of the fun millionaire

00:56:09.520 taxes we've been having they've all left the state all the millionaires have left and now we're 2.4

00:56:15.420 billion dollars short than where we thought we were going to be with tax revenue because the

00:56:19.480 millionaires are ditching us and going to other states where they don't get you know uh attacked 0.97

00:56:23.960 remember they're talking about a millionaire tax of 70 percent wasn't that the exact percentage

00:56:29.940 that france said that they were going to put on their million millionaires remember they did this

00:56:35.240 oh yeah and gerard departu and all these people left and went to russia went to russia that's how

00:56:42.340 bad it is and said fine you're gonna do that i'm going to russia and they left and it caused

00:56:48.980 all kinds of misery in in france and so they repealed it this is the problem when your your

00:56:55.360 policies aim to punish the most mobile and uh yeah you know affluent people around they can all go

00:57:04.520 wherever the hell they want and when you tell them we don't like what you do their their quote 0.56

00:57:10.380 unquote shouldn't be any billionaires uh elizabeth warren is proposing a wealth tax which almost certainly 1.00

00:57:17.560 is unconstitutional as basically every uh legal expert and constitutional expert because you know

00:57:24.180 the 16th amendment specifically made it so you could not go after these types of property but you know

00:57:29.840 she's going to try it anyway bottom line is uh you keep targeting people like this they're going to

00:57:35.780 want to leave and if you target uh it's easy to target poor people because where are they going to

00:57:40.420 go right like you could target them with a soda tax no problem that affects them oh sure you can

00:57:45.260 collect all your money now of course that's also going to uh destroy businesses as well but at least

00:57:49.960 you can you can collect your cash from the poor who want to buy their soda for cheaper prices

00:57:54.660 that's a wonderful a wonderful uh aspiration but when you go after millionaires they just leave you

00:58:02.780 they're like the hot girlfriend when you start treating them like that crap they just go to 1.00

00:58:07.520 somebody else that's why you have to crack down on them that's why you have to force okay harvey

00:58:12.540 weinstein yeah the government is essentially harvey weinstein exactly right in this particular case

00:58:18.280 well otherwise i mean we got to do it we got to punish them we got to keep them here otherwise i

00:58:23.160 mean they just want to destroy everybody with their the blaze radio network

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The Glenn Beck Program - March 05, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Pat Gray & Dave Isay ｜ 3⧸5⧸19

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