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The myths of socialism from the Washington Post and the history of socialism, and the role of socialism in American history. Glenn and Mark take a deep dive into the myth of socialism and try to debunk some of the most popular myths about socialism.
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hello podcasters it's uh tuesday we've got a great show for you um i'm gonna start at the ending with
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yeah believe it or not will smith he may not be black enough to play a role oh absolutely you
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have to have the exact shade of skin yeah to match the actor and we're finding out that now
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even a black actor can't just play black roles black actor has to play the exact shade of black
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that he happens to be so we urge you to get your color wheel out from sherman williams and we're
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going to start we're going to match uh actors to the roles uh and make sure we get exactly the right
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color um and we'll really amazing we'll tell you about that we have some on the michael jackson
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thing uh today there's the documentary wrapped up we have gotta watch that i can't believe you
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haven't watched it yet it's crazy it's a big commitment it's four hours uh so i can watch
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it a little highlights yeah now i've seen some clips it looks very disturbing we get into that
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we get into socialism uh the myths of socialism from the washington post we also have uh dave
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i say uh who is with story core give us some really um good news and of course what would
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all right uh so the the washington post has come out with five myths about socialism
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yeah uh and then this is important for you to understand a lot of people in the audience
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are conservatives going they're not going to get this they they've been told all these lies
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and now they need to know the truth myth number one socialism is a single coherent ideology now at
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no point did i ever consider socialism to be coherent uh that's important right that was the word i
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yeah that was the word i focused on too very strange but uh they talk about they give examples
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of people who are saying crazy things like uh you know democratic socialists uh columnist jenna
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ellis wrote in the washington examiner all are precursors to full-blown marxist leninist
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communism editorial investor investors business daily all forms of socialism are the same
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many attacks on socialism as well polls uh gauging its uh surprising popularity take for granted that
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it's a unified philosophy you know again not coherent but unified yet socialism this is from the
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washington post has multiple meanings and interpretations which have to be disentangled
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before a discussion about its merits can begin you can't just judge it glenn it's too nice one
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distinction centers on whether socialism is a system that must supplant capitalism or one that
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can harness the market's immense productive capacity for progressive ends really socialism is about how
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you can take capitalism and make it work better really that would be that would be interesting to a lot
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of socialists carl marx who predicted the historical forces would inevitably lead to capitalism's demise
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into government's control of industry was the most famous proponent of the first type of socialism
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so that's just like all right the history forces of history going to change this capitalism can't last
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long enough that's the marx one then you've got vladimir lenin who said he wanted a revolutionary
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vanguard to destroy capitalism that's type number two according to the post and by the way he was a
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democratic socialist um just because people were afraid of communists he said we are too that's why we're a
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democratic socialist totally different totally different as we saw with the multiple decades
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afterwards sure other socialists however did not accept the violent undemocratic nature of that
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course right those were called progressives although they agree that capitalism was unjust and unstable
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the left's role in the view of these democratic socialists the czech-austrian theorist carl kotsky
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for for instance was to remind citizens of capitalism's defects and rally popular support for an
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alternative economic system that would end private ownership and assert popular control over the means
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of production i would say once again glenn these first three categories there is no distinction as
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to what they are it's just the means of how to get there how fast do we go right right mark says it'll
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happen over a bunch of years with history because capitalism will fail lenin says it's got to be a
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revolution kotsky says ah well you know what we'll have a uh we'll we'll tell everybody how bad capitalism
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is they'll realize it and then come to our way it all ends in the end of production as far as private
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could i just go to the webster's dictionary now i honestly search for this thinking well it's not
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going to say that they've changed everything right so here is the current online merriam webster's
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dictionary definition of socialism socialism any of various economic and political theories
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advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and
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distribution of goods to a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
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to be a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned or controlled by
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the state oh well i can't see the last one because uh i just won a new ipad oh congratulations
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that's fantastic i don't need to i don't need to win ipads though because i i keep getting these
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wonderful inheritances from princes in uh nigeria yeah and i can buy as many as i want as soon as the
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cash comes in sure sure well i can't read the last one okay but you get to get the point there uh here
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here's how again you see all those would be what everyone thinks is social socialism right so they
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need to come up with a way to make ocasio-cortez seem okay and her approach so although sanders bernie
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sanders and ocasio-cortez embrace the term democratic socialist the policies they advocate
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place them much closer to yet another socialist tradition social democracy now these are totally
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different because democratic socialists and social democracy have the same words in different
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orders yes which is totally different totally different when it's social democracy or democratic
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socialism just like national socialism is totally different than social nationalism if the nazis came
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back today and said they were social nationalists we'd all embrace them yes surely yes we would okay
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so um uh social democrats say it's possible and desirable to reform capitalism this tradition
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hold on just a second that does not say that in the actual bills that they are now trying to pass
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it says an end of capitalism right we've seen we've read we've read you column after column from
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actual democratic socialists who say very clearly what they want to do is capitalism green the new
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green deal says they're going to reform not the not the thing that it caused you according to the actual
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bill it was ridiculous this tradition dominated the post-world war ii european left and influenced
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the american democratic party most notably during the progressive era and the new deal inspiring
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social security unemployment insurance and the eight-hour workday this is exactly what uh the
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democratic socialists don't want you to think they are they've told us specifically that this is not
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they're not just new deal democrats they're much further than that and they are in their own words
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trying to like put a little shine on there and say you know what they're saying they're socialists but
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in reality they just want switzerland or sweden that's all they want they wanted some big programs
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they love capitalism everything's fine they're just using you got to understand bernie sanders an
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ideologue for 50 years pushing for this cause just doesn't understand the terms he's using that is
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legitimately their case now you can certainly make a case like that over ocasio cortez who doesn't seem
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to understand the words that she's speaking on numerous occasions per day but bernie sanders doesn't
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understand socialism i mean that is it's insulting to the 947 year old bernie sanders and that's just
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myth number one myth number two is socialism and democracy are incompatible uh in a speech last month
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crisis in venezuela trump argued socialism must always give rise to tyranny socialism is pseudoscience
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enforced by political tyranny i wrote the heritage foundations blah blah communists reject democracy
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of course but other socialists have strongly supported it look it always starts as democratic
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unless it's a revolution it is always starts as democratic in fact maduro was a democratically
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elected president of venezuela normal guy a bus driver he was democratically elected then he decided
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you know what i don't like this democratic election thing i'm gonna fix it now he's a dictator
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so last night i finished watching the um the documentary about uh finding neverland
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um and yesterday at this time i said i i believe them but it was weird and i wanted an answer from
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the parents i couldn't how did the parents not know etc etc um then i watched part two on hbo's documentary
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and there is no doubt in my mind that these guys um at least 100 believe it and the families believe it
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i happen to believe them that this happened but you know a documentary you're only seeing one side
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um however they completely rang true and it's not just these guys it is their families as well
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and the way it is disrupted these families and torn these families apart
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they're just not that good of actors you you couldn't fake this interview do you agree yeah and
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i don't i don't know why you would i mean i guess if there was money involved but for them
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they're not getting any money they're not getting money from it the statute of limitations is already
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up especially not after this like you could theoretically go to the family and try to
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harass them to give you a giant check but i mean after you're on tv and the documentary is over they're
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not going to give you any money i think they kind of tried that i think robson uh went after uh the
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jackson estate in 2013 or 14 and failed and it was thrown out of court because of the statute of
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limitations and so they're from that standpoint there's not much to gain
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and you've sort of then created this thing that i don't i don't think you'd want that
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on no when you on your reputation when you were watching uh they didn't they didn't enjoy saying
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any of this no that you could you could feel it i mean when he was talking yesterday robson the guy
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who was you know he did all of the choreography for britney spears and in sync and everybody he's
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actually he's turned into somebody um and i watched it and in the first episode he's talking about you
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know how much he michael and he loved each other at the time and it was very bizarre um spoke about
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that last night too yeah he did and the reason why he said i testified in his behalf was first
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the first time um because michael had asked him and they loved each other and and michael had
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gotten out of his life and then he was suddenly back in and he wanted the attention from michael and
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michael was like had told him from day one since he was seven you know we'll both go to jail we can't
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let them divide us and um and then the second time he testified later um he tried not to he said to
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michael i'm done i'm out i don't want to be involved in this anymore and michael's team actually
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subpoenaed him and once he was his sister said michael can't go to jail he won't he won't survive in
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jail and that resonated with him yeah he said he that that they went to michael's house for dinner the
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whole family before and uh he said i saw michael and he said he was a shell of a person and he's
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like my sister was right he'd die in prison within days and i just didn't want him to go to prison and
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die in prison he also does a really good job i think of explaining that the first trial when he was
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11 he didn't consider it abuse he considered it an expression of you know as sick as it is an expression
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of love from michael a 35 year old man to an 11 year old boy i mean it's sad but that's what his
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mind made of it all yeah i mean he was basically in a alternate universe right i mean like where rules
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are completely different yeah he's not going to understand right as a kid it's the most powerful
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celebrity on the planet and he loves you and he said i looked at him like a dad and your mom keeps
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letting you go over there right right so i mean like it all kind of aligns in your mind as this
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might be something that other people don't understand but and and the pain that they expressed
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in last night's episode uh was truly genuine the other guy had nervous breakdowns right yeah in fact
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too for robson and uh james safe check was kind of in a perpetual state of breakdown yeah i felt bad
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for him in his adult years he was really messed up from this and there was no remember he didn't
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come out and try to sue the the michael jackson estate for anything he never came out he only came
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out after um robson came out right and he came out and said okay i have to talk to you because this
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happened to me too and he couldn't figure out why he was so depressed and screwed up
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and why he hated himself right and he and he couldn't put it together and he couldn't make
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sense of what had happened to him with jackson uh and um and then robson came out and then they
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started to communicate and it was the same story i mean it's amazing how exactly the same those stories
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were yeah you know what else was amazing to me is after the first trial in 93 whenever that was 93 94
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uh and they had both been ignored mostly by jackson for months or years at a time and then after they
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both testified he was back in both their lives and big time and calling him every day again and having
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come over again and he picked up right where he left off with the sexual abuse even after the first
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trial unbelievable i mean that's incredible really is bizarre i mean if you can't trust a millionaire
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musician to care for your child when he's sleeping over at his amusement park for a few months right
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who can you trust no well that was the thing that i found interesting the mother from australia
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robson's mother um is she's i mean this added so much credibility because she's been ostracized from
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her son now she's taking on all of the guilt um the daughter is mad at the mother the other brother
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is mad at all of it uh and it just destroyed this family and then there's another family the dad
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committed suicide yeah and then there's another family who's uh who lived in california that they
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bought him you know michael jackson bought him a house and everything else and they really considered
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them family if you watch how they how they set up the story in the first episode they just thought
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michael jackson was part of the family and mom when mom found out that this was happening she went nuts
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she went nuts uh she said she danced when she found out he he was dead um she she really
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she took it i think appropriately she blamed herself for not seeing it um as well she should
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as and and she blamed michael jackson yeah as well she should right it's a part one was one of the
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creepiest most disturbing things i've ever seen i i don't watch a lot of disturbing shows uh
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but this one was maybe the most disturbing i've ever seen i didn't i didn't see schindler's
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schindler's schindler's list so i i don't know that i mean that was a little more disturbing yeah
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considerably more disturbing yes but i haven't seen that so this was one of the i mean you just feel
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icky after it yeah jackie couldn't do it for part two but part two wasn't as bad part two wasn't as
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bad part two was you could probably watch part two and get the gist uh of everything yeah probably
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but without watching all of the graphic details that you hear in in the first part which is so bad
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because these little kids yeah when you're seeing pictures of these kids this kid was six six when he
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was first introduced to michael jackson and you see him uh you see the videotape of him going back
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to australia and being on like good morning australia and you know michael gave me this hat
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and everything else and you know that michael had abused that kid you know he talks about what had
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happened on that trip to see michael and then he's abused then he goes back and you see this little
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teeny kid on television you're like oh my gosh yeah so it's phenomenal curious because i did not
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see any of it um what happens now our system of uh of justice is a documentary is made and then we
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figure out whether they're guilty or not and then we make judgments like for example like you know
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bill cosby like there or or r kelly and we pull all their music and their shows off the air never to be
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seen again that's happening is that happening with michael jackson you think yes supposedly bbc2
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banned his music but they say they didn't uh but it hasn't been played um since i don't think we
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should do anything because of this documentary uh except learn except learn but i mean so michael
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jackson and his you know his state estate doesn't get punished now that we have extensive evidence that
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he committed horrific crimes they're just gonna keep playing like we're gonna defend we're gonna
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play in pyt like it's no big deal and like we don't know what's going on defense he's not here
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to defend himself in the closet it's gonna keep running uh you know with the lyrics the lyrics of
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that are incredible oh man uh but like i mean is that what happens because i mean it's one thing to
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ban r kelly's music right right it's not that big of a deal no in a cultural way i mean i guess it
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is michael jackson that's michael jackson's you know a lot of music it's the band it's a it's an
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entire era of music and not to mention it influenced the next era of music i mean he was what do you do
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with that i mean they sample his song and how many other songs do you know excised as well i mean
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i think you still listen to his music i think his music is good um he's dead so he's not hurting
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anybody anymore he's dead i'm not glorifying him by listening to his music i am listening to his
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music because his music was good um and it was part of our culture for so long i still watch the
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cosby show with my kids you know i didn't tell them until it was all over you know hey by the way
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you know he's not such a good rapist yeah he was uh he went to he went to prison uh but the cosby show
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is still really good i mean what's crazy about that is that entire decade i mean the two things
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you would use to define that decade culturally would be michael jackson and the cosby show
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yeah right like those number one show and the number one artist yeah and they're both
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completely destroyed now crazy it's amazing i mean that whole just that whole era is just gone
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yeah not reagan no i mean that's what i mean not marty mcfly
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yeah no that's that's true we'll always have marty mcfly yeah we will have we will we will always
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have marty mcfly star wars uh empire strikes back yes star wars would certainly i don't know i love
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back to the future but i don't know if we put back to the future is that the lead of of that decade
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culturally no not the lead not as big as michael jackson but still star wars though pretty obviously
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would be there i would say in the 80s uh back to the future was huge it's pretty defining it's
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iconic it's not star wars though no no i mean cosby show was like the star wars of television of that
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era was it not i mean it was the biggest show safe to say yeah i think that's safe and that is like
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and that's gone and michael jackson was the star wars of music and now that's gone i mean madonna
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was huge too but i mean michael jackson was i would say the peak of that and like they said multiple
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times during the special uh there's no one like that today and we may never well i don't think we'll
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ever have a star no because everything's so big it's too everything's too fragmented yeah uh-huh you
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know you can be a huge star in a little pool over off to the side that's not even little but you can
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be a huge star and half the country have no idea who you are where even i think we were the last
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generation bill o'reilly glenn beck sean annity um we were the last of the people on cable news
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that were big across the whole country it's not like that anymore no i mean doing christmas shopping
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this past year go you go down the toy aisle of target or you know whatever toy store is open and
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still selling toys in a in a place every freaking other toy has the face of some kid that your kid
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watches on youtube on it these are all just like kids who open up presents and and and their whole
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thing is they review toys or whatever those are their faces today are all over the place and i 90
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percent of this audience has never seen them at all but if you have little kids that's what they
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watch and those are the celebrities right now it's an entire entirely parallel culture that is built
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and they all have deals with like mattel like all of the their their faces are on every toy in the
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aisle you know who they also have deals with you know who their represents them in most cases
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ellen oh really ellen goes out satan no ellen ellen goes out and uh her team looks for the next big
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little kid stars and reps them and gets them these deals and then brings them on the show probably
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brings them on the show introduces to the parents yeah and then makes money off of the kids she's
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too smart that's annoying yeah she's annoyingly smart yeah
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like listening to this podcast if you're not a subscriber become one now on itunes
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but while you're there do us a favor and rate the show darnell bird mcpherson
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she's the mayor of lamar south carolina she's the volunteer mayor i don't know what that means
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do you just i think that means she calls herself the mayor but isn't actually the mayor i i have a
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feeling that could be it or everybody just stands around is like anybody want to do this job
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i do all right anyway she says she was a victim of a hate crime after she found yellow six a sticky
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substance that had been sprayed on her car early last month mcpherson had returned to her home
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february 7th and told newsweek magazine that her husband went out to get some things out of the
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garage and the car they had both left their car outside of the garage the night before and he came
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in and said somebody has painted our cars she went out she said it was a grainy substance like an
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industrial spray foam used to patch concrete uh news in like a like a swastika well i mean newsweek
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said it looked like little pebbles and the stuff was also on her husband's car mcpherson told newsweek
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she said it was a hate crime because number one there is a history of racism in our little town of
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lamar which i think you want i think you want the mayor of lamar going out and saying oh you know
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when you think of lamar think hate crimes i think you move it right over to the tourism bureau right
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because that's uh really nice by the way that's not how our justice system works i don't know if
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anyone understands that yeah you know you're like you know what well there was a crime uh in this town
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50 years ago so that must mean this is a hate crime today so she says it's a hate crime because number
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one history during the 70s crosses were burned in the yards of uh of our home when my mother was
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involved with the civil rights movement it's the very same corner in this very same front yard so it
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happened in the 1970s and it was on the same location so i think if it's only a few decades and
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it's the same corner you automatically assume it's a hate crime her statement noted the incident happened
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last night uh my husband uh and i uh and our neighbor and noticed that the cars looked like
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someone had spray painted both of our vehicles which were parked right in our front yard she said
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it ignited the same fear in my spirit my god who would do that i thought it was it was something it
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was it was unnerving to me and while no words or symbols were drawn with the substance she told the
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magazine to me hate was the message newsweek said mcpherson had no possible motives for a person or
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people targeting her she said i really have a good reputation i've never been subjected to something
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sheriff uh sheriff sheriff's office lieutenant robbie kilgo told newsweek
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that uh when they call were called out um there wasn't a reason for us to collect a sample
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because it was pollen it wasn't even paint she had left her car which was normally in the garage
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so she got pollen on her car and reported a hate crime yeah well who would do that it was a sticky
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yellow substance that was covering both her and her husband's car right but again like why would
00:27:53.280
you there wasn't a swastika obviously what was the 1970 they were burning crosses on that corner
00:27:59.800
you're saying that they're not going to put a pollen like substance on her car
00:28:04.780
look she knew i am saying it was hate although who knows mother nature might be wearing a hood
00:28:11.900
you don't you don't know you don't know you don't know um mcpherson has said she does have another
00:28:18.860
possible suspect in mind wait she's still sticking with this after the pollen thing you don't know the
00:28:25.080
rest of the story there was a police officer unnamed there was a police officer who came to me and said
00:28:32.080
quote there are rumors out there that someone's trying to assassinate you
00:28:38.740
so she has asked local law enforcement to file a complaint about the death threat as well as the
00:28:47.880
yellow sticky stuff that the police strangely didn't want to take a sample of
00:28:54.240
she says she thinks the police are doing this to her uh they've no they just they just are turning
00:29:02.620
their their eyes away from somebody who is spraying pollen all over her car she said i don't care about
00:29:09.920
my car anymore what i want is my life so there's your there's your volunteer mayor
00:29:16.020
from uh from north so she is after the pollen analysis is sticking by the hate crime thing
00:29:23.500
well because it wasn't an analysis the police came and they ran their fingers on the car and her
00:29:29.800
husband even says yeah it looks like it was pollen they ran the fingers on the car the uh the other
00:29:37.400
neighbors also have reported a strange yellow sticky substance on their cars when they leave it out at
00:29:43.280
night um but uh she is well i should say she i mean she thinks it was something else and she thinks
00:29:51.520
she knows who did it but there's this rumor out that somebody's trying to assassinate her and she
00:29:55.760
doesn't care anymore about the car she wants to know who's trying to assassinate her so we have a
00:30:01.800
rumored assassination of a volunteer mayor yeah okay yes uh-huh yes this is now you might think that
00:30:09.700
that that has gone too far that our society has gone over the deep end but then i bring you this story
00:30:17.940
jareth nebula 33 has shunned human genders and now wants to be accepted as something else
00:30:30.380
33 year old a 33 year old who was born a woman but transitioned to become a man
00:30:39.280
when she was 29 and then became a he now believes he doesn't fit into either gender and in fact
00:30:50.780
he has had his nipples removed because always a good move by the way you just don't need them
00:30:58.360
people don't understand this there you just don't need them they're they're like they're like the the
00:31:03.960
tonsil just remove it whenever your first chance your first chance is to just take those things
00:31:09.580
off you just don't need them so i mean no barbie or ken doll has them i mean how do they live right
00:31:15.580
you know i mean like oh this is magically they're the only people who don't need nipples no no one
00:31:19.740
needs them amen brothers amen so he has taken his nipples off and shaves his eyebrows because
00:31:26.460
those things make him feel human he claims now that he belongs to another planet i tend to agree i i tend
00:31:38.280
to agree as well uh he's now living alone and wants people to hey what you're you that's a stunning
00:31:48.700
development yeah no he's well there's nobody else like him you know on this planet right yeah there are
00:31:56.080
many like him in the universe but uh not a lot not a lot like him so uh anyway he has he just wants
00:32:04.740
people to accept who he is and he would prefer if everybody called him a thing or it rather than he
00:32:13.280
or she now he that's the least we can do for this nippleless it he or it has legally changed its name
00:32:22.120
four years ago after coming out as transgender he said it said i firmly believe at that time
00:32:30.540
that i finally found myself but then i was wrong i wasn't male i wasn't female i wasn't even human
00:32:39.880
i don't think or feel like humans i can't really explain it to others because i'm simply
00:32:48.360
otherworldly but i didn't feel comfortable as either gender or anything in between i i know i'm stuck in
00:32:57.700
a human form and that's how i'm perceived by others but i am an alien without a gender
00:33:04.360
uh giraffe says he didn't fit in when he was uh diagnosed with eds which is a lifelong condition
00:33:14.120
affecting connective tissue and resulting in stretchy skin and an increased range of joint
00:33:19.660
mobility uh he was born with this uh condition but not diagnosed until he was 26 he has been
00:33:26.300
nicknamed mr elastic which has got to hurt i'm just i'm upset they're calling him mr that's what i mean
00:33:34.080
i mean just you can call it it elastic elastic um he was nicknamed mr elastic by his doctors
00:33:42.960
due to his stretchy skin a condition that causes him chronic pain um he said it's it's one benefit
00:33:52.720
that he has as an alien because his skin is wrinkle free and it makes him appear younger than he really
00:33:59.260
is now i don't know no word yet on how old he really is he may be thousands of years old fair
00:34:07.580
point um jareth does not want to disclose his birth name he said that can it's birth name it's sorry
00:34:14.660
it's birth name uh now i realize it says why i could pop my uh joints out on purpose it was a fun party
00:34:24.160
trick as a kid uh but that happens to me not because of eds but because i'm an alien
00:34:32.560
if you are any democratic presidential candidate running in 2020 why what other reaction is there to
00:34:45.860
this then well that's just wonderful and i accept him for what he says he it sorry what what it says
00:34:54.200
it is an alien with stretchy skin and the ability to disconnect all joints at any time because he's
00:35:01.220
thousands of years old and i mean that seriously it really is what their stance would have to be
00:35:08.900
why on earth would you accept a man transitioning to a woman and just by a feeling in their head as i
00:35:17.520
believe ellen described it gender is just a feeling that you have in your head if this person has a
00:35:24.020
feeling in its head that it is an alien why wouldn't you accept it no you'd have to you have to to be
00:35:33.840
to be consistent you have to accept that that is what it says it is now here's the question is it
00:35:40.520
is it more compassionate to just to go along and call her who transitioned to him and is now it so call
00:35:53.680
her it is it more compassionate to go you know what yep you're from outer space you're in it and you
00:36:02.740
should have your nipples removed and you should do all of these crazy things to your body you should
00:36:07.120
you should do that is that more compassionate or is it more compassionate say
00:36:11.320
you you there there there is you need help you need help you need help and and then there is therapy
00:36:20.840
that can possibly help you i i can understand that you really feel this way because i really i really
00:36:30.340
understand i've had clinical depression and i know the power of the mind and what the mind can do
00:36:38.020
but the more you think you're an an otherworldly alien oh my gosh the more you will believe you're
00:36:46.920
an otherworldly alien and that's not healthy so your question is is hate more compassionate
00:36:51.480
is what you just did which was hate more compassionate right i'm well the next thing you
00:36:56.940
know i'm going to say that on the radio the next thing you know i'm going to be taking pollen and
00:37:01.780
you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
00:37:10.060
so dave i say is a friend of the program and uh he is the founder and president of story core
00:37:26.760
and story core is uh this amazing thing that usually runs on npr and it's it's to me it's
00:37:36.300
tragically sad because it tells an american story and like everything else the word the country is
00:37:44.140
divided and so we have these we have these american stories and they become the stories of the left or
00:37:50.680
american stories become the stories of the right no they're american stories and uh
00:37:56.720
dave has uh been strong enough uh to make an appointment with me i don't know about six months
00:38:05.640
ago and say glenn we're starting something new and we really want to invite your audience to
00:38:12.360
participate in this so it's it is an a truly an american story because we have to start listening
00:38:18.440
to each other and i welcome uh dave i say to the program dave glenn great to be back yeah thanks
00:38:24.760
what story are you going to share with us today uh i i think we're we're sharing today the um
00:38:30.960
as you said story core has been around for 15 years and for um half a million people who know
00:38:38.080
and love each other have have come and recorded an interview with one another and we have we started
00:38:43.320
uh very recently what i came to talk to you about this project one small step where we're bringing
00:38:48.160
people across the political divides into a story core booth where these interviews go to the library of
00:38:53.200
congress so your great great great grandkids can get to know you through your voice and story
00:38:57.120
building people bringing people across the divides to the booth um just to remember that uh that we're
00:39:04.200
people we're just people um and i think dave the the secret to this is perhaps that it is being
00:39:11.760
recorded for the library of congress and nobody wants to be remembered as being a jerk 150 years from now
00:39:18.560
that's exactly right i mean i think part of the secret secret sauce here is that it's in so many
00:39:23.300
ways the opposite of twitter um because you realize that that you know this is how your great
00:39:28.340
grandchildren are going to hear you so you want to be your best self and that's who you know that's
00:39:33.280
that's who we are we're born you know we're one of the lessons of story core is the basic you know
00:39:39.520
goodness of people and how similar we all are to one another so this is i i thought i'd play a very
00:39:44.640
early one small step test interview uh uh today and this is um this is uh from boston um and it's
00:39:53.220
a 29 year old woman named jen stanley who's a writer and her father peter who works in construction
00:39:59.240
uh who's conservative and uh they came together we're focusing now on strangers in one small step
00:40:05.100
but this was a family interview just to see what would happen uh what could happen when we put family
00:40:09.900
members together in this safe space to feel free to have a thoughtful and honest conversation here it
00:40:15.800
is i try to not bring up politics but you always watch five o'clock news and the minute any politician
00:40:24.680
steps on it doesn't matter who it is i just cringe and too yeah but you have to say something whereas
00:40:30.160
i would like to just pretend it's not happening but maybe the answer is we don't watch the news when
00:40:35.180
you're there maybe but now i feel like we've gotten to this point where we're together and
00:40:40.160
we're fighting about politics and those would be the times when i hear you say i can't even talk to
00:40:44.280
you dad if you're going to get so angry and flip out about it then you know what i'd rather you didn't
00:40:48.960
talk to me but see this is what drives me crazy though you start these conversations well i ask questions
00:40:55.140
what do you think about this and what do you think about that it's me trying to glean information
00:41:00.980
from somebody who is significantly more educated than i am and whose opinions i trust i'm really
00:41:08.760
surprised to hear you say that i i had no idea that you were genuinely interested in what i had to say
00:41:14.840
i thought that you wanted to tell me how i was wrong and also make a joke about how i was silly
00:41:20.200
well i would never feel that way about you i have nothing but respect for you i don't agree with you all
00:41:26.660
the time i don't agree with you most of the time but that's okay we have a lot of things in common
00:41:31.400
and i do know that everything you did when you were a little kid was because you wanted to be like me
00:41:36.240
you even played softball which you hated because i love baseball really hate it i mean i just really
00:41:44.420
worshipped you dad i just thought that like everything that you thought and said was right and you were
00:41:50.500
just my best friend but i think as i got older i realized that you were really wrong about a lot of
00:41:57.400
things well you're probably right jen i never professed to be right about everything the important
00:42:04.180
thing in our relationship is that you have your own beliefs and that i respect you for your beliefs
00:42:11.600
you were raised to be a sensitive caring person and that's exactly who you are you say that and i feel
00:42:19.460
loved but i will say i think you used to like me and i don't necessarily know that you like me anymore
00:42:27.020
oh yeah i like you a lot it doesn't make me feel good that you say that i don't agree with everything
00:42:33.840
you say you do but do i like you yeah you bet i do and i'm extremely proud of you you know when my time
00:42:43.720
comes uh to say yeah my father was a good man we didn't agree politically but uh he was a good man
00:42:51.040
and if you can say that then i'll be happy i don't think that you're right all the time but i think
00:42:58.800
you're the best man well thanks and you're the best dad i bet there's a lot of people that are
00:43:06.420
suffering um with this and wish they could um heal the divide um let me ask you this dave uh i i noticed
00:43:16.440
that their language was very different he never said she was wrong he said over and over again i don't
00:43:23.220
agree with you on everything um but she she said several times and it and it it struck me
00:43:30.800
uh you know i found out that you're very wrong on things um did you notice that and is there
00:43:40.480
is there something to learn from that language you know i i i didn't notice that um you know i think
00:43:48.740
what's happening is is that it's two people who are not who are having a conversation that they
00:43:54.100
haven't had before um and you know it could flip you could have you could have the conservative
00:43:59.340
uh person um using that language and the and the liberal person not i think it just happens to be
00:44:06.020
the dynamic in their ages but but what what what you know what's striking to me do you know which do
00:44:11.940
you know which one is which oh yeah okay yeah so the dad is conservative and the daughter is um is
00:44:18.220
liberal but one of the cool things about these one small step interviews actually is that they're
00:44:22.460
when you when you listen in on these and and we ask people not to talk about politics you know
00:44:27.460
that what all this all this is about is that mother theresa line we've forgotten that we belong
00:44:32.160
to each other just seeing the humanity and people who we disagree with and and i actually think of
00:44:37.340
um i think of the culture of you know you you you got to this you know a minute ago in the intro was
00:44:42.440
stew the culture of fear and disgust and division represents and i don't know if if you agree with
00:44:47.560
me on this but i've come to think especially in the last couple of months it's potentially an
00:44:51.000
extinction level threat to our democracy oh i i agree with you and and and i think that you know
00:44:56.740
what it's our job like with smoking you know smoking at one point was thought of as cool and and sexy
00:45:03.080
and and now being you know kind of being at each other's throats is considered cool and and hip and
00:45:09.240
and i think that um in the same way we have to start looking at at the way we're treating each other
00:45:13.920
uh as as as less than human as as extremely dangerous and not okay um but if you listen
00:45:20.580
into many of these conversations uh you will have no idea who's who's who's on what side um
00:45:25.900
they're just people talking to each other in a way that you never hear anymore which is just being
00:45:30.780
human with each other how do people get involved in this so we are still we're still testing we're
00:45:37.620
hopefully going to go uh and really start scaling this thing over the next six months but come to
00:45:42.280
storycore which is s-t-o-r-y-c-o-r-p-s dot org backslash one small step um which is one word
00:45:49.900
storycore.org backslash one small step uh to sign up and you'll be on a mailing list and as we start
00:45:56.120
to roll this out across the country and um hopefully you know spreading the uh this this idea that it's
00:46:03.540
our patriotic duty to see the humanity and in people we disagree with uh you will be a part of it
00:46:08.300
and you'll be on the you know you'll be on the front lines as we as we take this to the country
00:46:12.420
and and you know again just try and take one small step towards one another again dave thank you so
00:46:18.280
much glenn thank you for having me on you bet dave i say i'll talk to you next month you got it uh he's
00:46:23.300
the founder and president of uh storycore uh and you can follow it at storycore.org
00:46:34.460
hey it's glenn and you're listening to the glenn beck program if you like what you're hearing on
00:46:49.060
this show make sure you check out pat gray unleashed it's available wherever you download
00:46:54.420
your favorite podcasts so stew and i are having an argument now about uh the safest place to live
00:47:00.180
and uh i say it's uh you know my town mount vernon washington or bellingham washington where i grew up
00:47:07.100
and uh and he's like wrong completely wrong it's third third best in the country because you were
00:47:14.880
like what come on it has extreme weather every place has something no there's no extreme weather
00:47:20.660
in washington state there's no extreme weather it's just always rainy always always some snow it
00:47:29.220
gets cold it gets below 32 degrees in washington so it gets four inches of snow once in a while once
00:47:34.420
in a blue moon you get 12 12 inches of snow that's a lot it's very slippery everybody just stays at home
00:47:39.780
then it melts we even get snow here and we're in texas yeah actually they list dallas as the worst in
00:47:46.260
the nation the what yeah they say lots of every lots of almost everything but quakes they have
00:47:52.680
twisters hurricane remnants hail wind drought and floods yeah no mudslides you know what guys you
00:48:00.020
shouldn't move to texas i guess that's the uh that's the answer um yeah especially if you're from
00:48:04.480
california but yeah no it's the southeast that's just really the the biggest problem well i mean i
00:48:09.760
remember you know look i moved here for the weather uh mainly uh forget you and your stupid show i
00:48:15.320
came here because of the weather oh we we we did not do our research on weather oh i just listen to
00:48:19.960
god where should we move oh i did plenty of research about weather uh before coming here uh and i love
00:48:27.220
it i love the weather here i hate the weather here why it's either cold or hot it has like one day
00:48:36.400
we're we'll have it in probably april or may where it's like oh my gosh open the windows it's
00:48:43.640
beautiful this friday the highest 79 79 this and then tomorrow the next day it could be 40 it could
00:48:52.340
be yeah it could be a lot of things glenn but it usually is very cold here now it's like in the 30s
00:48:58.440
right now yeah and then it and then it gets so it goes from cold without really snow or anything
00:49:04.360
you know if you have anything extreme it's ice that's not fun without any there's no sanding for
00:49:11.200
the roads they don't have a salt truck they have nothing if it has ice on the road stay home or
00:49:16.220
you're dead until the sun comes out and it could be 80 the next day it still could be 12 and then in
00:49:25.100
the summer it's like a hundred and you know 102 103 with humidity this is a mass misstatement of fact
00:49:35.100
here no if he's this accurate on i might i might vote for alexandria ocasio-cortez for president if
00:49:40.820
this is your level of analysis um because uh you know you know look it's much better here in the
00:49:47.620
winters than it was up north you don't get you don't get the uh the cold uh you get i mean you
00:49:53.260
have a few days a year where it gets around 30 30 degrees but that was like the best day of the
00:49:58.020
freaking year i know that i know that so i'm not comparing it to new york or to the northeast that
00:50:03.320
sucks everybody knows that well that's where we moved from why wouldn't you be comparing it well
00:50:07.380
you're gonna move someplace why don't you move to someplace like arizona where it's nice oh because
00:50:12.220
arizona doesn't get hot that's true no arizona gets hot but the the other six months out of the
00:50:16.640
year it's paradise no it's very nice as long as it's warm i could deal with it i mean because i'm
00:50:21.920
not moving to california and that's perfect i disagree it doesn't get warm enough in california
00:50:26.380
we went out in california i took a vacation a summer vacation to san diego which san diego is awesome
00:50:30.920
i like san diego it was too cold to even go in the pool it was like 70 i want a summer
00:50:36.020
you just don't like the wind and you probably don't like it was cold at night but it's 70
00:50:42.360
degrees outside as a high temperature it's not swimming weather not to me i'm a wuss i want it
00:50:48.700
to be i want it to be 95 degrees oh i could just hop in the pool it's beautiful you get out you go
00:50:54.240
inside of the air conditioning the average temperature in san diego is 77 degrees and it is perfect
00:51:00.040
perfect it's got a nice breeze some i like great day i like the pacific northwest i like the eat with
00:51:06.940
the west coast where there's no humidity you got a nice breeze going all the time and at night even
00:51:13.140
if it's blistering hot during the day it's not at night the sun goes away and it somehow or another
00:51:19.680
cools down here in texas the sun goes away and it's still a hundred degrees and now you're like what's
00:51:25.880
happening here let me tell you why the sun goes away because kim jong-un has just fired a nuclear
00:51:29.640
weapon and it can hit you that's how it goes away becomes nuclear winter you like that that's your
00:51:34.920
option there we're in the middle nobody can reach us nobody can get to dallas it's way too far for
00:51:40.440
missiles it's exactly what i'm believing for the rest of my life the word safe i do not think it
00:51:46.360
means what you think it means it is actually listed as the worst i mean we do get tornado warnings
00:51:50.420
sometimes hail for sure it's a big deal here wind oh yeah it's really windy drought sure floods yeah
00:51:58.980
i mean i yeah yeah uh and hurricane remnants i mean you're you're stretching it rains it really
00:52:06.500
houston gets hit really hard with a hurricane and then it rains and we're not affected by yes we do get
00:52:12.000
rain from hurricanes but please it helps us with the drought what you're complaining about everything
00:52:19.280
now i'm a little depressed that's why i'm taking uppers to get rid of the downers right i mean
00:52:25.140
jeez so i don't know i guess i guess you're right though it does look like uh the pacific northwest is
00:52:30.360
the place to avoid extreme weather but then you have to then you have to deal with all of the
00:52:35.500
progressives and the socialists and the crazies and the anarchists and the and the people who were
00:52:40.980
rejected by california california told most of those people get out you're too weird oh i don't think it
00:52:48.880
would be the reverse no all the rejects all the rejects from california it went down like i am just
00:52:54.400
gonna like live and then they got down there and they're like oh my gosh this is just so fake and so
00:53:01.060
then they went up to california went up to oregon and they were like the people in uh portland they
00:53:08.440
don't mean it and so then they moved to seattle and you can't go any farther north and that's what
00:53:14.140
canada built the wall yeah peace arch that bull crap that's a peace arch that's keep your progressive
00:53:21.260
hippies out of our country that's what that is i don't understand those policies are working so well
00:53:26.640
glenn uh like for example the 15 minimum wage uh huge success in seattle really doing really well
00:53:33.400
now every democratic candidate has embraced it as part of their platform yeah except for bernie
00:53:38.580
sanders i will say bernie sanders said at least 15 minimum wage yeah because that's an old school
00:53:43.320
proposal uh there is a new study out about new york city who got to uh 15 minimum wage and uh and
00:53:49.480
there's a and and honestly that's a city that needs one i disagree with that completely but i do
00:53:55.600
understand what your point is yeah i'm not saying that you need a minimum i don't believe in that
00:54:00.600
pay the pay what you what the market bears but compared to you know des moines it does not need
00:54:09.660
a 15 wage new york it is hard to live on 15 there are places that are going to have a 15 minimum wage
00:54:18.020
that that's that's a lot of money for that market right i mean there should not be a we've made this
00:54:23.260
point many times should not definitely not be a federal minimum wage no i don't i don't think
00:54:27.100
minimum wages do anything for the economy or for people anyway but at least you can argue it if you're
00:54:32.240
gonna if you're gonna customize it to an area right the idea that you go to 15 minimum wage
00:54:36.460
nationally is completely insane uh in uh washing excuse me in new york the 15 minimum wage has been
00:54:43.400
implemented it's ramping up now and as it ramps up uh the new york restaurant industry has only
00:54:50.180
experienced the worst decline in restaurant jobs since recorded time right you'd think the depression
00:54:59.300
well i mean most people would say 2008 depression right like we had a major recession in 2008 uh all
00:55:06.240
employment went down dramatically and it did go down in new york with the restaurant uh situation but no
00:55:10.320
this goes back to 9 11 for new york so 9 11 if you remember um half of the island half the island was
00:55:18.560
closed right that was pretty much it uh and in fact the last two 2008 and 2001 were the last two drops
00:55:25.040
both of course occurred in real recessions now as of right now we don't think we're in a recession
00:55:30.300
although the possibility of one seems to rise in probability kind of uh by the day however uh this
00:55:36.980
drop was more dramatic than even the 2008 financial collapse and that's just because uh you know hey
00:55:44.100
they wanted to give a little bit more money uh to the average worker to make a living wage and it
00:55:49.080
felt so good wait how is that killing restaurants well restaurants have to pay these amounts yeah they
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just charge more yeah no apparently not apparently that's not working out they're just letting
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they're letting people go and the people of new york don't want to pay more yeah and i think was it
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cuomo that just came out and said by the way you know here's the other side of the fun millionaire
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taxes we've been having they've all left the state all the millionaires have left and now we're 2.4
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billion dollars short than where we thought we were going to be with tax revenue because the
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millionaires are ditching us and going to other states where they don't get you know uh attacked
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remember they're talking about a millionaire tax of 70 percent wasn't that the exact percentage
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that france said that they were going to put on their million millionaires remember they did this
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oh yeah and gerard departu and all these people left and went to russia went to russia that's how
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bad it is and said fine you're gonna do that i'm going to russia and they left and it caused
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all kinds of misery in in france and so they repealed it this is the problem when your your
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policies aim to punish the most mobile and uh yeah you know affluent people around they can all go
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wherever the hell they want and when you tell them we don't like what you do their their quote
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unquote shouldn't be any billionaires uh elizabeth warren is proposing a wealth tax which almost certainly
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is unconstitutional as basically every uh legal expert and constitutional expert because you know
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the 16th amendment specifically made it so you could not go after these types of property but you know
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she's going to try it anyway bottom line is uh you keep targeting people like this they're going to
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want to leave and if you target uh it's easy to target poor people because where are they going to
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go right like you could target them with a soda tax no problem that affects them oh sure you can
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collect all your money now of course that's also going to uh destroy businesses as well but at least
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you can you can collect your cash from the poor who want to buy their soda for cheaper prices
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that's a wonderful a wonderful uh aspiration but when you go after millionaires they just leave you
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they're like the hot girlfriend when you start treating them like that crap they just go to
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somebody else that's why you have to crack down on them that's why you have to force okay harvey
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weinstein yeah the government is essentially harvey weinstein exactly right in this particular case
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well otherwise i mean we got to do it we got to punish them we got to keep them here otherwise i
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mean they just want to destroy everybody with their the blaze radio network