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Today on the podcast, President Trump outlines his immigration reform plan and we talk about a non-merit based college entrance exam, a trans woman who gave birth to a baby, and a trans man who was mistaken for a woman.
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hey it's pat and jeffy uh on the podcast today um president trump outlines his immigration reform
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plan talking about a merit-based system and we want the best and brightest immigrants to come
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here uh democrats obviously not happy about that but they never will be of course things are so
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bad at the border they're sending the tsa there uh so that immigrants can be felt up and molested
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uh the tsa coming to the border it's sold it is sold it's fixed man now it's fixed um because i
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don't want to get felt up at the border or the airport so maybe that'll stop people for coming
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i don't i don't know in hour two we of course uh spent the time with bill o'reilly and uh fascinating
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to hear bill's thoughts on uh on the immigration plan and also the uh you know the democratic
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presidential run for the nomination he also talked about due process and brett kavanaugh along the way
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and his thoughts on president trump's immigration um are are fascinating and then uh we also talked
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about the sat scores soon going to be weighted to compensate for perceived advantages or disadvantages
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that students have amazing stuff um so you know while we're talking about a merit-based immigration
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plan we're talking about a non-merit college entrance uh exam it's amazing um also a trans man
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that gave birth to a a baby and uh that surprised the hospital staff there kind of surprises me too
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really until you find out it was actually a woman who gave birth yeah you're right and elissa milano
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on uh uh how pro-life she is all fascinating stuff and all today on the podcast
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it's pat and uh jeffy today for glenn on the glenn beck program uh president trump kind of went
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through his proposal for uh immigration reform yesterday uh here's some of what he discussed
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our plan achieves two critical goals first it stops illegal immigration and fully secures the border
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and second it establishes a new legal immigration system that protects american wages promotes american
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values and attracts the best and brightest from all around the world
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importantly we're already building the wall and we should have close to 400 miles built
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by the end of next year and probably even more than that it's going up very rapidly every year
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we admit 1.1 million immigrants as permanent legal residents these green card holders get lifetime
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authorization to live and work here and a five-year path to american citizenship this is the most prized
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citizenship anywhere in the world by far well he's got that part right that's for sure
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um and for him to say that we want the best and brightest how dare he how the seriously the
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democrats are taking issue with that i know they don't want the best and brightest hey we've we've
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had a long record of uh bring us your poorest your destitute we want only people who are have clothes
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that are ragged and uh and we no skills and they can't speak english that's what we want here
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and some states are getting them yeah right oh yeah california we're getting the governor is
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pardoning you know felons yes so yeah there you go as far as whether the the border wall is already
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being built i i don't know i i hear i see conflicting reports on that that they haven't started yet or
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they've barely started over 400 miles but he claims 400 miles by next year that'd be great and maybe
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more and maybe more okay if that's true that's great i'd you know i hope it is i hope it is too
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i hope it is uh but much of this proposal i think is really good as he said right now about 12 percent
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of immigrants are admitted based on employment and skills so about 12 percent of immigration right
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now in the united states is merit-based uh how can we expect how can we be expected to continue that
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rate i don't know it's insane i don't know 66 percent are admitted based on family connections
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why and that to democrats that's a good thing yes once you're in i mean that's the point right once
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you're in then the rest can come so if you have a second cousin twice removed uh in manawa niarawa
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uh come on in yeah it's all yours bring them up come on bring them up i'm in well my my mailman
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has a friend whose uncle uh wants to bring him in come on in that's kind of the way it's sort of the
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way it's done i know now the administration wants to flip those numbers so it will be 57 percent based
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on merit 33 percent based on on family connections that makes more sense that's probably still not the
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maybe not even the right formula but it makes more sense to what we currently have but of course we you
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know that's bad oh of course to the democrats it's it's absolutely catastrophic um so we want to
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recruit top talent um microsoft is continually saying we don't have enough to fill the positions
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that need to be filled uh in technology so good let's let's flip it around and and let's bring more
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skilled people into the united states i i do like the focus on um first of all securing the border
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and he did talk about that and that's a really important part of the plan but also uh focusing
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on legal immigration yes we want to stop the illegal flow and we want to we want to bring here people
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here that want to do things the right way and we'll add something to the country every nation on earth
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asks something of the people who are trying to immigrate there all right what are you going to bring to us
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what are you gonna do for us it's a legitimate question it's an important question you can't
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just say okay come here and we'll do everything for you that we possibly can that's not the way
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it's supposed to work it's just the way it has been working sure is and i mean working i use that
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word loosely so supposedly the average yearly wage of legal immigrants right now is 43 000
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this if we go to this system supposedly they would then increase the average income to 126 000
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wow yeah uh yeah and the average yearly wage of all immigrants would rise to around 96 000
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how could you not want that for the people that are immigrating kidding how could you not want that
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no i'm sorry i want them to continue to make seven bucks an hour and i'm gonna fight this tooth and nail
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every step of the way no how could you not want that and the thing is and we should have been talking
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about this from the beginning when they come the way they do and you don't ask anything of them
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and you don't encourage them to learn the language because that's somehow hateful that's somehow
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racist that's somehow xenophobic i mean we're in trouble for encouraging them even just to have
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rudimentary knowledge of english exactly yeah um and so they stay at the bottom rung of society and
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there's nowhere they can go because if you speak only spanish or norwegian or german or whatever it is
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when you come here you're not going to succeed in america you have to learn english in order to get up
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the social ladder and the employment ladder it's just it's mandatory really if you don't you're
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going to be stuck in a crappy job your entire life here why would you want that for them i don't
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so you encourage them to learn the language and when you do they can have a chance to succeed here
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i'm all for them making 100 grand a year me too i think that's great but democrats don't because
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then uh they're not dependent on the democrats if they start making 126 000 a year they don't need
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the democrats when their handouts so they don't want this they do not want this uh so president
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trump trying to end the chain migration situation uh he's frequently called for an end to the visa
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lottery program um something this seeks to do it'd be replaced by a new build america visa program that
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would recognize extraordinary talent and people with professional and specialized vocations
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including exceptional students um what the plan doesn't do though is cut back on immigration at all
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and that would be a nice component to this limit you know a little bit more than we do now because
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we allow what a million a year legally and then another million two are coming in illegally this year
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that's unacceptable so we're gonna have immigration at a rate of two to two and a half million every
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year i don't think that's sustainable it can't be it can't be so uh the plan doesn't deal with that
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it also doesn't deal with uh people who are already here illegally including uh the the dreamers
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but uh president trump said it does close loopholes so the gang members and criminals are inadmissible
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and it would stop frivolous asylum claims one of the things they're proposing and i think this is
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really good you can't you can't claim asylum at the border sorry you got to go to an embassy or a
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consulate for that i'm okay with that oh that i think that's imperative
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because what do we when you're at the border how do we know that that you're here claiming asylum
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that you're in danger in your home country we don't no way to know but if you go to a consulate
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in guatemala or honduras or wherever you're from um you know you can look into it then go to the embassy
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do it there every country on earth just about has an american embassy or consulate and that's the right
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way to do it so it does seem uh uh that that is the uh had the wise thing to do well yeah i mean
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let's just keep if you're in trouble in your country come to us for help right and and if if it's for real
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we'll help you well and they you know a lot of this is well i'm i'm afraid of gangs well then you
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know people in los angeles be claiming asylum all the time uh and new york and every large city in
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america because they're afraid of gangs as well there's plenty of gang activity in america can americans
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claim asylum from it no no so i don't know that we allow that uh asylum is supposed to be from
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oppression from the government and so uh it's really tough to ascertain when you're here at
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the border that you've been through that so that's one of the things we need to deal with
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uh also there was no mention of the e-verify program right um so that's an issue as well
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so some apparently because of those two things the the lack of reducing immigration and no e-verify
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so some conservatives aren't necessarily for this but it's not i mean this is just a proposal i think
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this is just kind of a uh framework i mean this is a we've got to do something and here's here you go
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let's get this thing started right and where's your proposal democrats let's thank you just olly olly
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all come free is is not a really good uh immigration plan right now and that's all they that's all the
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democrats offers everybody come on in well that's because they hate trump so whatever trump trump doesn't
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want want wants to try to limit no we don't we don't and when you look back on the way they used
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to feel about this you can't help but think that's true because they were all against just allowing the
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border to be wide open right they talked about it they voted for it they voted for the the fence in
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2006 and in the 1990s uh in fact they were pretty hardcore about it they sounded like conservatives back
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in the 90s yes they did that's how far we've come we've come a long way a long way yeah wow uh triple
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eight seven two seven b-e-c-k it's pat and jeffy for glenn on the glennbeck program
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here's how bad things are at the border just to give you an idea uh they're deploying the tsa to
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the border wait what that's how bad it is uh the tsa headed for the border we're redeploying some of
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them i would rather have them feeling up the yeah me too cross the border that'll stop it in a hurry
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yeah you want to cross the border you're going to get felt up by the tsa okay okay if you're tony
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romo or not yeah that'll that'll shut it right down uh department of homeland security retasking
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hundreds of tsa employees to the u.s mexico border to assist with the frontline immigration process in
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an effort to relieve some of the pressure on uh customs and border patrol wow and ice cnn reports
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175 of the tsa's law enforcement officials and up to 400 of its security ops personnel
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including a number of air marshals are being sent to the southern border to help with efforts to deal
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with the immigrant flow wow uh they're expected to commit up to 10 of their workforce to border
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security so i've never heard of this before what's happening does that mean longer lines at the
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airports oh i hope so because that'll just really be convenient for us because nobody travels in the
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summer anyway no that's coming up on summertime breaks that's right nobody goes anywhere uh there
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is now an immediate need for more help from the tsa at the southwest border according to a tsa spokesperson
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tsa is committed to support 400 400 people from security ops who will be deployed in waves similar to
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how they're deployed in an emergency situation tsa at the border now it's fixed there now it's fixed
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they're asking this is just volunteers for now though uh it claims that uh they're just asking
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you know if you could volunteer to go to the border so i'm sure that oh tsa members are jumping all
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over themselves who wouldn't want to do that go to the hot be deployed sticky texas border
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uh in the summer i could work at dfw at the air-conditioned airport um oh it's a tough choice
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all right send me to the border i really let me be out there with the mosquitoes and the flies
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and people throwing rocks at me that's yeah yeah i think i'll go to the border yeah that's not
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gonna work like fun that's not that's not gonna work i don't know i mean i guess what comes next is
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just mandatory right you're going yeah your government employees i would think so nice day
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yeah unless they volunteer unless they choose to do the national guard again or some other agency
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some other group who i don't know uh triple eight seven two seven beck scary yeah they are they can
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be mm-hmm yeah it'll this this will fix it because not only are these scary but they're so efficient
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jeffy i think you've i think we've all found that haven't we very much so yes they've ingratiated
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themselves to americans for years now and uh i think once they get to the border you don't have a
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problem anymore speaking of problems at the border uh wow a dallas man previously arrested in the death
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of an 81 year old woman has been charged with killing at least at least 11 more elderly women
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whose jewelry and other valuables he stole spokesman for the uh dallas county district attorney's office
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said the 46 year old uh billy chimmerer was indicted on six more counts of capital murder and the
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deaths of women ranging in age from 76 to 94 so he's a kenyan citizen living in the united states
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but don't worry about that these are just good decent hard-working family people that's there's
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nothing to worry about wow that's amazing what does it take i mean i don't i don't know what it's
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gonna take i don't know i mean look to get the democrats to be serious about this i mean we mentioned
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i mentioned gavin newsom you know in california he's pardoning felons and uh you know including
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two that were up for deportation he's saying oh no you're fine and stay here i mean i don't know
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what what can be done well and i don't know what you have to do obviously you know this is probably i
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hope too far and we're going to do something you would hope yeah you would like to think that there
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is some there's a line of criminality where they say okay yeah maybe instead what they say well
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the american citizens are killing people too yeah but we've got enough of that don't we without
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having kenya's killers here as well yeah but he hasn't killed 20 so he may have because they said it
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might be more than 11 or 12 now 12 elderly women disgusting really really really horrible from 76
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years old and 94 years old really sad really sad uh and but you don't hear anything about it
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nobody's nope cnn's not talking about it msnbc is not talking about it i don't know that i've even
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seen that story on fox um and it you know it's kind of an important one oh yeah these are a few of
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the people we'd like to prevent from coming into the country illegally okay that'd be nice yeah it'd be
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nice i uh uh just and while while i get it we can't prevent all of this from not coming into the
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country we can certainly attempt to do better than we have been yeah that's and that's been
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president trump's uh theme all along is we you know we can do better than this we we can prevent some of
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these with the wall we can prevent some of these by paying attention to uh who it is that we allow to
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come in why would you just allow everybody's families family members to come into the country
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it doesn't make any sense so zero sense let's ask something of them uh like i don't know what
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skill do you have what are you gonna what what job do you have lined up where are you gonna live
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so it just it just makes sense this is a it's a pretty good start on immigration reform uh and it
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doesn't include amnesty which is a pretty good uh pretty good step in the right direction as well
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but i think if if the democrats were to propose a plan it would just go back to the same thing the
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comprehensive immigration reform they've been talking about they just want the dreamers to all
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be here legally they just want a path to citizenship for everybody else that's here for the 11 to 20 or 25
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million that are here illegally uh and they'll just make the problem worse so this is a good start from
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the president 888-727-BECK it's pat gray from pat gray unleashed and uh jeff fisher from chewing the fat
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for glenn uh today and uh all next week here on the glenn beck program
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itunes thanks bill o'reilly from bill o'reilly.com hey bill gentlemen how you doing doing well you
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i'm uh the same which is a tragedy for everyone uh your latest column at bill o'reilly.com talks
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about how due process is dead in america whether it's brett kavanaugh hearings or with president
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trump and the muller report um tell us about that well it's the media's fault in the sense that
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you are done if anyone on the planet files an allegation against you and you're a famous person
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that's for sure okay so you're finished there's no oh well maybe he didn't do it maybe there's an
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agenda uh on why this is happening so the real horrible lawyers and ideologues know that now
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so they target people for um allegations that's that's number one is what's happening so every
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corporation in america now is a battery of lawyers they have to pay um to fend this stuff
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off you don't hear about 90 of it and now you have lawyers advertising on radio and television
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and billboards you know if somebody did something to you you call us we'll give you millions of dollars
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okay the second thing about the due process is the disgraceful uh performance of some u.s senators in
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the kavanaugh hearings now i don't have any problem with uh grilling um a supreme court nominee it has to be
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done but these people flat out said oh you're guilty of something you did in high school even
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though we don't have a shred of evidence and nothing has emerged since you're guilty you did it
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you and your family should be disgraced that was kamala harris that was cory booker that was diane
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feinstein who behind the scenes actually engineered this whole thing it's great everlasting disgrace
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um and so when you have that combination of elected political officials who do not recognize
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due process combined with the media you're in trouble and i think the country's in trouble
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is there anything we can do to uh uh stem that tide i don't know i mean individual americans i think if
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you ask them and they just listen to what my explanation was would say yeah o'reilly's right
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um because this could happen to me or my son or daughter or my husband or whatever yeah um and
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now i'm going to have to go out and pay two hundred thousand dollars to an attorney
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um to defend me against uh charges that are fallacious um the whole thing stems around
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the affidavits if you file something against someone you have to sign an affidavit under perjury
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but the system does not prosecute that so therefore it's a free fire zone you can lie about anybody you
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can say anything you want and the media i think the media has basically fallen apart in america i
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don't think people know how bad it is we see the surveys and the polls that 70 percent of americans
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don't trust the media but i watch uh cable news ratings every night i see network news ratings what's
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happening in the morning and late night i did it on billoreilly.com we did a segment last night on
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the collapse of late night viewership across the board on the three networks nobody watches those
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shows anymore and i think the people are uh saying enough and that's what you can do i mean if you are
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an american and you see something unfair do not do not watch the network that's doing it and fire off
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a letter to the senator won't matter but at least you're doing something yeah it's it's really tough
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because as conservatives we we have that mindset where i'm not i'm not going to participate in a
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boycott i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get out on the streets and protest whereas the left does all that
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kind of stuff and it's really effective it has been effective so we kind of just have seeded all of that
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to them and and we just we sort of sit back and take it every time you know somebody's wrongly accused
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or yeah but here's the deal you're right the right in america doesn't have an organized media
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matters or move on or power of change or color of this or they don't have that all right and listen
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to all all that you just listed off i mean they've got so many of those organizations and these these
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organizations have millions of dollars all right to mobilize boycotts to threaten sponsors to do
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whatever they want to do a lot of that money comes from the george soros foundation as people
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probably know so they have millions of dollars to go smear people threaten people intimidate people
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extort people nothing like that exists on the right but i'm telling americans that it shouldn't
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you don't get down in the mud with these people what should happen is that there should be an organization
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to expose the boycotters to tell people exactly who they are what they're doing what sponsors are
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giving into it right you know you guys may remember um years ago there was a big fierce uh controversy
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over some corporations telling their employees not to say merry christmas remember that yeah okay well i your
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humble correspondent turn that around by naming the corporations that were doing it and as soon as i
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did that those corporations stopped back down people weren't going to christmas shop in the stores right
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so that's the way to do it unfortunately i called a couple of um conservative groups that that handle
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uh pro bono law cases and they were frightened to do it because they didn't want these groups to come
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after them and they wouldn't do it not going to name them that's not fair but i tried to mobilize some
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of these crews and saying look you got to set up an arm to defend people under fire yeah and and they
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wouldn't do it because they didn't want these people to come after them unbelievable it sure is it
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that's how powerful this is yeah if you look at history and you know i write the killing books and
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all that if you look at history all the totalitarian regimes uh have done this have demonized groups and
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and selected people for punishment all of them yeah and that's exactly what's happening in america
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and there's nobody doing anything about it yeah the road is long i mean you talk about voting with
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your with your with your eyes and with your remotes and don't watch the channels and don't do that
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but when they have uh the money that they're getting from whatever sources they're getting it from
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uh they can still stay alive and keep uh keep on the air whereas a number of uh uh conservative
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channels may have to go dark and so it's a long battle it the worst part about it is that the
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boycotters and the extorters and the and the people who are peddling false allegations are propped up
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by the very liberal media so the new york times washington post cnn msnbc nbc news this kind of
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stuff props them up there are no investigations into media matters or uh move on or color of change
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none of that they're not looked at they everybody knows this is happening so where is the press
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exposing this kind of extortion it's extortion when you go to mercedes-benz and say if you don't pull
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your spot from the fox news channel or whatever radio program then we're going to send out a uh
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email blast on facebook or however they do it to um you know five million people saying don't buy
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mercedes cars that's extortion all right now you i've gone and talked to lawyers you could make a
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rico case against media matters you could do that and file federal that'd be interesting that would
00:28:40.820
be fantastic but again who's going to do it right nobody i mean apparently nobody yeah they're not
00:28:47.180
they're not uh evil enough in people's eyes overall right i mean they're building those rico cases
00:28:52.720
against drug manufacturers they're not going to do it against media matters in the social civil war
00:28:58.060
okay the far left progressive movement is far more weaponry and is far more ruthless than the other
00:29:06.800
side yeah and and now i you know you're basically seeing people being destroyed before your eyes
00:29:13.600
kavanaugh survived by one vote collins and i saw her in california a couple weeks ago and i i
00:29:20.460
she requested to speak to me and i just said you know senator i gotta tell you you save that family
00:29:27.080
put everything else aside you save those people because of what was happening she knew she knew
00:29:34.700
all right and and so americans are watching the spectacle and again you know you say what can we
00:29:42.480
the regular people do not much other than walk away from the vehicles that are that are doing this
00:29:49.580
and you have to be and that's happening you have to be willing to do that though yes you do you have
00:29:53.380
to be willing to walk away and you know when i when i saw camilla harris and cory booker uh declare
00:30:00.340
for the presidency i i said to myself there's no way on earth that i as an american citizen not a
00:30:05.700
commentator not not a purveyor billoreilly.com none of that would vote for that kind of a person
00:30:12.900
to lead this country yeah you can scream about how bad trump is or how good he is or whatever
00:30:17.840
you know but these people in full view of the nation basically said blank you constitution
00:30:24.600
yeah blank you well it's good that you have another guy due process on anything it's good that you have
00:30:30.680
another 21 or 22 candidates to pick from other than those two now well they're not gonna you know
00:30:37.200
camilla harris got an outside chance to get the vp nod with biden but i think it's going to be the
00:30:42.660
stacy abrams um but yeah she's mad about people talking about that too because she kamala harris was
00:30:49.980
so saying you know they were her people were saying that uh it was embarrassing to think about her being
00:30:54.660
the vice president to joe biden you know look i don't even pay attention to those campaigns because
00:31:00.020
they're not going anywhere you know except for bill de blasi i know he's gonna rock it up and
00:31:04.620
all right absolutely uh i live in new york i know how bad this guy is my god oh it's it's amazing
00:31:13.460
that he has the ego to think that he could actually i mean what did three people show up for him in
00:31:21.300
vegas when he appeared there recently a dozen maybe tops unbelievable it's all about the money
00:31:27.340
he gets to keep all the campaign funds that idiots might donate to him that's what it's about he's got
00:31:32.960
nothing else to do new york city's falling apart everybody hates him cops turn their back on him
00:31:38.160
um i mean it's really really a disaster yeah if you don't live in new york say a prayer of thanks
00:31:44.620
all right because that city is falling apart i live 20 miles away from manhattan it takes me in
00:31:51.920
one hour and 45 minutes to drive not in the rush hour to get into that city it everything is falling
00:32:00.240
apart well it's you ever see that movie escape from new york yeah okay that's what it is i mean
00:32:06.880
i saw snake pliskin the other day time square it's a snake how you doing man how do you get out of here
00:32:12.140
can you get me out of here all right more with uh bill o'reilly you've got it we've got to ask him
00:32:17.820
about uh the president's speech on immigration yesterday and and much more coming up in 60 seconds
00:32:23.900
it's pat and jeffrey for glenn on the glenn beck program uh talking with bill o'reilly uh bill i
00:32:33.620
want i want to get your thoughts on what the president had to say on immigration uh but we
00:32:37.380
were talking about first of all we were talking about kavanaugh a few minutes ago uh and his his
00:32:41.980
nomination process how what are your thoughts on on his rulings so far and some people are already
00:32:48.580
worried that he might be a bust for conservatives you know i don't evaluate rulings like that on
00:32:54.640
ideological basis um i i kind of uh independent guy and i look at how he bases his uh his decisions on
00:33:05.360
the law and the constitution and what it says i have to tell you i don't know yet i don't know yet
00:33:11.960
uh when i saw the abortion thing in alabama i told my viewers last night on bill o'reilly.com i said
00:33:17.460
don't get excited because i don't think the supreme court is going to uphold this law well i don't
00:33:22.360
either oh no way i don't either right there's only one guy that would vote for it and that's
00:33:26.260
clarence thomas um so i think kavanaugh wants to send a signal like john roberts does that he's not
00:33:33.080
in anybody's pocket i think so too um so whether that harms the nation down the road we have to wait
00:33:40.800
yeah this is a bold move for alabama yes and they're they're trying to force this issue with
00:33:48.440
the spring court it's payback it's payback from the idiot virginia governor actually saying to the
00:33:54.420
american public right you know even after the baby's born we might put it to death and then
00:33:58.940
andrew como a villain of unbelievable lengths um passing this law that says you can have an abortion
00:34:06.480
at any time for any reason well once the uh pro-life community saw those two things they said
00:34:11.640
we'll get a little bit agreed yeah right we may not win yeah we're going to humiliate them and we're
00:34:17.380
going to go in and we're going to send a message it was time to fight back it's not really about
00:34:21.840
abortion that's what nobody understands it's about states rights that's the argument that's going to
00:34:27.920
be put forth not roe v wade they're not going to try to overthrow roe v wade they're going to try to
00:34:33.780
say to the supreme court look each state has a right based upon their population's desire
00:34:39.680
to regulate public health you and the federal government do not have a right to impose public
00:34:46.460
health on alabama or missouri or wherever and that's in the constitution it's a local issue
00:34:52.980
let us decide that's how the argument is going to go down um but again i don't think it's going to
00:34:58.960
be successful right yeah i don't either i i i think you're right the only the only one you could
00:35:04.360
really count on to overturn roe v wade i think is clarence thomas yeah i don't even know that alito
00:35:09.440
would mike you might you might be able to peel off alito on the uh on the state's rights issue yeah
00:35:14.900
uh you might be able to do that but you're not getting roberts and you're not gonna get roberts
00:35:18.860
you're not getting roberts yeah right uh so did you uh what what were your thoughts on uh the
00:35:26.060
president's unveiling of his new immigration plan yesterday it's all posturing uh he knows it's not
00:35:31.960
going to get through you know so there are two schools of thought here uh you do it to send a
00:35:38.040
message and this is what you believe i'm okay with that but if you're telling the american people that
00:35:44.660
there's a shred this will get passed then you're misleading them nancy pelosi's not going to allow that
00:35:50.240
um even if trump were a little bit more moderate which i would have been had i been president and
00:35:57.000
faced with this issue i would have said we're going to do 50 50 we're going to do 50 percent
00:36:01.320
humanitarian visas and we're going to do 50 merit visas that's what i would have done so that you
00:36:07.960
then become somebody who's not devoid of compassion because that's what the tradition of america is
00:36:14.400
take your downtrodden and you come here and then you reverse your life they trump administration
00:36:20.580
doesn't have that philosophy in what they put forth that was a mistake but none of this is going to come
00:36:28.060
to fruition he seems to be he seems to be trying to sort of even balance the scale though with what he
00:36:35.960
just did because we've been doing it the other way for so long he sort of i think went a little bit
00:36:41.340
further than than you might expect him to just to sort of even out the playing field maybe uh it's
00:36:47.580
a campaign issue for him that's what he's doing yeah um you know he's got four pillars i have a book
00:36:53.060
coming up in september the united states of trump where i explain his how the president really sees
00:36:59.000
america as a subtitle i explain how he really sees america first i explain how he got there which is
00:37:05.000
only two people on earth could have done it him and oprah i explain exactly how he got there
00:37:10.920
and then i explain exactly what his view of the country is um he doesn't really care about people
00:37:18.000
in honduras and i'm not saying that as a pejorative i mean he just doesn't care we knows that illegal
00:37:25.080
immigration is one of the pillars of his um administration yeah gonna run on four things
00:37:31.940
and that's one of them right well i mean and that's part of his appeal isn't it because it is
00:37:36.720
put america first put america and americans first and that's you know that's what a lot of us
00:37:42.420
he doesn't feel a moral obligation to heal the poverty in central america and around the world
00:37:49.420
right he doesn't feel that moral obligation because my my moral obligation is to make sure americans
00:37:56.520
prosper first and then we'll take a look at the others but that'll never happen and it's honduras
00:38:01.240
job to take care of hondurans uh it's it's their leadership that's never going to happen it's not
00:38:07.120
going to happen now if america thrives though then so will honduras down the road right i mean yes
00:38:13.000
nicaragua will never thrive el salvador will never thrive wow okay well the cultures are so corrupt
00:38:24.220
yeah all right it's like mexico mexico is never going to be the republic that the usa is because
00:38:31.940
of the culture of corruption yeah right yeah that they don't enforce corruption laws everybody's on
00:38:41.020
the take you can't run a country like that and think you're going to prosper and that's how these
00:38:47.460
countries operate uh bill there seems to be a lot of saber rattling going on between the u.s.
00:38:52.340
and iran and a lot of people are concerned about an actual either a proxy war or an actual war
00:39:01.260
um do you have some concerns there that actual war could break out with iran
00:39:05.160
i think there's maybe a one in five chance there'll be any military action there that's a decent chance
00:39:13.800
though yeah it would be iran would have to make the play so you got warships in the persian gulf
00:39:21.520
and um you've got 500 troops uh or more i guess now in iraq um and they would have to attack them
00:39:32.320
uh in order for u.s. to to get involved that way um i think these sanctions against iran are working
00:39:39.660
i mean if i were uh trump i i know what he's doing um you know he wants to be um the guy who sets the
00:39:49.420
agenda for the world not for just for the united states and he he knows that iran is trying to
00:39:54.900
cause trouble on a lot of fronts so he's basically saying telling them you better knock it off and if
00:40:00.400
you don't um you're going to get hurt um so i'm kind of uh agnostic about this i wouldn't i wouldn't
00:40:07.200
provoke any military action um but if it comes you know it's not going to be good for iran
00:40:13.760
that's for sure i mean they'll get hurt badly but it'll also re-stimulate isis and al-qaeda and
00:40:20.640
those that's a downside yeah it's always it's always a mess when it involves the middle east and
00:40:26.780
and everything that's going on there it's always a mess um speaking of which i i know you've spoken
00:40:32.500
about tariffs before um what are your thoughts on on the latest round of tariffs back and forth with
00:40:38.600
china well that's another pillar of trump's re-election campaign along with the immigration
00:40:42.900
the economy why does he love him so much what what is it about tariffs i don't think he loves
00:40:48.040
tariffs so much he just basically he knows there's a trade war with china so everybody knows there's a
00:40:53.380
trade war and it's been going on now for decades but the american government has basically said uh we
00:40:59.860
don't really want to fight this war because our economy is you know chugging along so we'll let them do
00:41:06.460
what they want well from the very beginning from 1990 if you look at trump you know again i'm in a
00:41:12.320
good perch to give you guys um the facts on this case if you go back and you look at trump's public
00:41:18.600
pronouncements about china he started in 1990 saying the chinese were hosing us economically and they are
00:41:26.560
and they are yes they are people people don't understand it i'll let me put it in terms that
00:41:32.480
even glenn beck could understand okay all right so say bill o'reilly makes a band-aid and the band-aid
00:41:40.900
not only stops the bleeding but heals the cut in two hours nice okay yeah and it's the it's a fabulous
00:41:50.080
success in america everybody wants to bill o'reilly band-aid well o'reilly then looks over and goes hey
00:41:55.340
there's 1.5 billion people in china i want to sell some band-aids over there so i try to get my product
00:42:01.700
into the chinese market whereupon the government says you know what this product is unsafe we're
00:42:07.400
not going to allow it in it's unsafe they do that all the time to any american product that may threaten
00:42:15.160
their domestic production of anything now that everybody can understand correct yep that's been
00:42:21.020
going on since uh jfk all right since 1906 and no president has confronted it so trump said you know
00:42:29.820
i'm the i'm the macho man i'm the tough guy i'm going to do it i'm going to break them um and we'll
00:42:35.200
see if it's successful or not but that's what's happening there's going to be a lot of pain in the
00:42:39.300
meantime though i mean maybe yeah the hope is the the prices at walmart are going up well so don't buy
00:42:45.880
that yeah i don't need any chinese stuff you need any chinese stuff no i like shopping i shop at
00:42:52.720
walmart trim fried rice i mean that's all i need and they make it in my town i don't need it i don't need a
00:42:58.440
chinese t-shirt or a hat i don't a lot of americans do yes they do the americans shop at walmart wait
00:43:04.360
wait wait wait wait why well because it's cheaper enough american maybe so what it's maybe 35 cents
00:43:09.940
cheaper you know take a hit for your country anybody needs anything from china is that your new poster
00:43:16.160
take a hit for your country yeah come on why do i need this i like that on the farmer's stuff yeah i
00:43:23.160
understand but trump is gonna you know chuck money over to them so you know if you're getting hurt and
00:43:29.800
your products aren't moving the way they did the federal government is going to come in and and at
00:43:34.980
least give you some kind of relief as far as finances is concerned this federal government
00:43:40.520
under donald trump spending more money than any federal government in history yeah this guy's a
00:43:45.120
spender trump's a spender yeah i mean you know so i'm look you don't want to be dependent on them
00:43:53.180
but i don't i think they're going to help the people in the big industries that are getting hurt
00:43:58.880
uh from the china tariffs but the regular folks i mean i i just don't understand what you need from
00:44:06.200
china i just don't get it so it sounds like you you you pretty much agree you're kind of on board with
00:44:11.700
the tariffs i i think it's the only weapon we have in this chinese um economic war and if they're if
00:44:20.900
they walk back and i believe it's true they did um what their agreements were what are you gonna do
00:44:26.720
just let them get away with all that stuff and hopefully it hurts them it hurts them uh more than
00:44:31.280
it hurts us but they don't care see that that's the thing we actually care if our farmers get hurt
00:44:37.060
yeah they don't care you're right you know you don't like it i'll shoot you in the head
00:44:41.400
that's why it makes it communist authoritarian regime that that's what makes this war so hard
00:44:46.480
to win though right but but what trump's calculation is is that he he is going to squeeze them so that
00:44:56.040
there's unrest in china so that the 1.5 billion people start to get a little teed off just like
00:45:02.600
they're getting teed off in iran that's the calculation and beijing doesn't want that because
00:45:08.320
once the people start to get a little uh hey this isn't working out real well um then they got big
00:45:15.220
problems over there be interesting to see if that ever happens i don't know uh yeah i don't know that
00:45:20.640
would take a long time because i would it would take a long time but remember in china there there's
00:45:27.140
out in the hinterlands those people are not happy they don't have electricity they don't have
00:45:33.100
anything to eat i mean this is not a happy place you go to china you know the big cities are bustling
00:45:39.120
everybody else is like we don't really have much so who gets more pissed off first americans paying
00:45:45.880
higher prices or the chinese you don't know it's a calculation but i really don't think americans are
00:45:53.060
going to scream and yell about the terror well not with the new bill o'reilly plan hey take a hit for
00:45:58.560
your country yeah i mean i i just don't see it i mean the worst thing that could happen would be that
00:46:05.700
it throws the economy into a recession now that's right if trump if the trump people start to see
00:46:11.020
that cudlow's a smart guy cudlow's really running he is operation yeah he is a smart guy and they're
00:46:17.220
they're watching but they're trying to squeeze them and if trump can get the deal he wants then he
00:46:22.380
feels he can be re-elected because if he's a guy that took on china but if recession kicks in
00:46:27.200
then he's in trouble yeah big time he's done because i don't know about done because you know
00:46:31.980
it biden is not yeah you know he's not a guy like barack obama is a big guy yeah you know and he's i mean
00:46:42.580
i mean i know that donald trump is what 72 yeah his early 70s but biden and uh sanders are all in their
00:46:49.860
you know last half of 70s that's going to show here soon that's already starting to show trump
00:46:56.080
can take biden in a debate i mean i think so too yeah because biden's all over the place and you
00:47:02.000
know biden doesn't think there's a china problem and you're looking at him like going what um
00:47:07.160
so and the far left doesn't like biden they don't want him and african-americans that's the reason that
00:47:13.600
trump won 800 000 african-americans didn't didn't come out you say that but those numbers for joe biden
00:47:19.340
seem awful good yeah it's his it's his though that's his crew well who else are they going to
00:47:26.000
pick beto they live in el paso and he doesn't think there's a problem on the border right i mean you
00:47:32.240
know hello yeah you know it's it's a walk it's a bad group i mean it's a bad group all of these people
00:47:40.240
and i don't say this with any ideology any ideology at all bernie sanders socialist fine um but all of
00:47:48.240
them are so weak when it comes to problem solving so there's no fixing right then all they would do
00:47:57.880
is bring in this in crazy theory that's never worked anywhere bernie sanders knows he's not
00:48:04.140
going to be president he knows that uh he's his far out socialistic view is never going to be
00:48:10.260
accepted but what else does he have to do what else bernie sanders says he lives in vermont have you
00:48:16.080
ever been to vermont i have okay it's a pretty state but all you can do is walk around you get a
00:48:21.320
ben and jerry's you walk around that's it that's all bernie has to do this is fun he gets on a private
00:48:27.460
jet he goes all right it's fun he gets a pack of dough he gets all the money he gets to keep all the
00:48:35.280
campaign fund money i mean that's really why they're all jumping in anyway right they all see
00:48:39.160
a path to a bank account and that is a story that's unreported right that all of these people are in it
00:48:44.880
because they get money all right right money bill de blasio knows that no one even his wife will vote
00:48:52.160
for him no one will vote for him he'll get no votes zero votes not even his kids for no no they don't
00:49:00.340
like him they don't want him they live in new york city too they're going can't you fix anything
00:49:06.140
anything just fix anything he can't so it's all about money yeah all right uh bill o'reilly for
00:49:14.120
billoreilly.com uh you got the the book united states of trump comes out when september 24th right
00:49:20.380
now we uh want everybody to be nice to dad and granddad and get them the killing series we've got
00:49:25.640
eight killing books out including the latest one killing the ss big bestseller as you may know
00:49:30.140
and i've had a couple of those coming up go on in i'll sign them for your dad and granddad if you
00:49:35.000
want um lots of good stuff okay great thanks a lot bill thanks bill thanks for having me in guys
00:49:40.540
uh bill o'reilly from billoreilly.com it's pat jeffie for glenn on the glenbeck program hey it's
00:49:46.940
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