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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast uh today we have a fantastic show which by the way you can watch

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00:00:14.980 we have some really great stuff we uh we delve into the uh r kelly um issue which is it's kind

00:00:21.040 of kind of kind of an interesting thing uh then we also talk about vaccines they are starting to

00:00:28.480 uh ban books on vaccines and we have government officials writing to facebook and to google and

00:00:36.720 to youtube and everywhere and saying you should ban these things we need to talk about a public

00:00:42.280 private partnership with the government uh and your platforms to make sure that these voices of

00:00:48.780 these crazy ideas like vaccines are bad uh are getting out there and simultaneously some really

00:00:54.700 good news from a study in denmark uh talking about the vaccines and whether they're dangerous

00:00:59.520 or not so it's an interesting day both both stew and i uh are pro vaccine but we are also pro

00:01:05.780 uh free speech in fact we're free speech absolutists and we kind of get into that a little bit as well

00:01:12.480 with a guest towards the end of the podcast on socialism and what socialism really is new york

00:01:19.960 times says when did we all become socialists oh i don't know but nobody in my circle is a socialist so

00:01:26.620 i i can't tell you when did you become socialist new york times all this and more on today's podcast

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00:03:10.640 here in just a few seconds attorney michael avenatti has tweeted a statement from the client's family

00:03:17.760 uh ahead of last night's gail king interview with r kelly uh asriel has suffered mental uh mental 0.97

00:03:26.900 abuse severe mental abuse at the hands of r kelly for years r kelly is a liar manipulator and a 0.86

00:03:32.940 sociopath who must be brought to justice for his decades of sexual assault on underage girls all of 1.00

00:03:40.480 these victims and their parents cannot be lying yeah i know but you're such a liar i mean why would 0.99

00:03:48.280 you go to michael avenatti at this point i mean because at one point at least half the nation thought

00:03:55.440 he was the most credible man in america right at least half of the country was like michael avenatti

00:04:01.300 is the gold standard of truth because he's saying bad things about the president but now even that that

00:04:07.480 side thinks he's a scam artist so i mean now i don't know how the guy even gets a traffic ticket

00:04:12.080 job either i don't either okay so r kelly criminally accused of sexual misconduct in 2002 eventually tried

00:04:18.780 on child pornography charges in the same case he was cleared on all counts in 2008 um and so he says

00:04:28.020 look they're just digging up this stuff from the past and this isn't true i didn't do this here is a

00:04:35.780 cut one r kelly denies don't double jeopardy me do you still sit here and say you have never been

00:04:42.220 with underage girls can you really say that i sit here and say this i had two cases two back then 0.94

00:04:50.640 that i said in the beginning of the interview that i would not talk about yeah because of my

00:04:55.840 ongoing case now okay okay fair enough but okay i will tell you this people are going back to my past

00:05:03.740 okay that's exactly what they're doing they're going back to the past and they're trying to add

00:05:09.000 all of this stuff now to that oh yeah to make all of the stuff that's going on now oh of course feels

00:05:16.180 real to people but the past is relevant with you with underage girls absolutely no it's not why

00:05:22.260 because for one i beat my case yeah when you beat something you beat it you work we can't double

00:05:29.160 jeopardy me like that you can't it's not fair it's not fair to nobody when you beat your case you beat

00:05:33.700 your case yeah have you ever been with underage women well i can't talk about the two times i have

00:05:42.180 been with underage women but let me tell you no of course not i love that that's a great i told you 1.00

00:05:47.880 before the interview started i couldn't talk about the times uh that i did things that were wrong so

00:05:52.200 then no he didn't say that he said i can't talk about that that case the two yes the two in that

00:05:58.860 case right and he's but what he's saying is and in a way he has a good point you can't double jeopardy

00:06:05.920 me that's not even a good sentence let alone a good point i know i but he has but he has said

00:06:13.540 uh you know and and and tell me where this is where this is wrong okay you tried me for that

00:06:21.060 i beat that case i won yeah well this isn't a court of law obviously she's trying to get to the 0.99

00:06:27.980 bottom of whether this is an ongoing issue for him he's saying basic let's be honest what his

00:06:33.260 translation of what he's saying is yeah i did that before and remember he was charged with child

00:06:37.660 pornography which is and that was you can make a legitimate case there were 10 counts

00:06:43.880 of child pornography they weren't all child pornography that was that was part of it that

00:06:48.380 was part of it yeah because i mean the big part was it was on video and and it was there was never a

00:06:53.280 it was kind of one of those things where he was never during trying to sell his video to child porn

00:06:58.340 connoisseurs he just i i it was a videotape it was a sex tape here's why here's why if i remember

00:07:05.600 right here's why he lost that case or he won the case or yeah he won the case is because the girl

00:07:11.680 said i was 14 at the time and two other witnesses said uh that that wasn't her

00:07:19.780 so she said that was me and i was 14 and two other witnesses that knew the girl said no that's not

00:07:29.460 her or she wasn't 14 at the time it was a they couldn't prove that that was that was her and

00:07:37.040 that was her age right and bottom line is he can't you can't throw him back in prison for that and and

00:07:42.300 just saying that he did something wrong a long time ago does not prove that he's doing something wrong

00:07:45.840 today and that's i think his argument here uh that being said if your past is i've been charged with

00:07:53.540 child pornography and have had sex with underage girls multiple times perhaps you never go near

00:07:59.320 another female the rest of your life maybe that's an answer that's what that's what he said he said 0.93

00:08:04.260 let me like to do no that's not what he said no no no no later he did let's see if it's in cut two

00:08:09.700 here's cut two but i'm not talking about the one case in which you were acquitted i'm talking about

00:08:14.400 the other cases where women have come forward and said r kelly had sex with me when i was under the

00:08:21.100 age of 18. r kelly was abusive to me emotionally and physically and verbally okay r kelly took me

00:08:27.920 in a black room where unspeakable things happen this is what they're saying about you these aren't

00:08:33.600 these aren't old rumors not true whether they're old rumors new rumors why would they say this about

00:08:39.080 you not true uh play cut three please and correct me if i'm wrong that you have never held anybody

00:08:46.520 against their will i don't need to why would i well i'm how stupid would it be for r kelly 0.74

00:08:52.300 with all i've been through in my way way past to hold somebody let alone four five six fifty you said 0.99

00:09:02.200 what how stupid would i be to do that i didn't say that's stupid guys that would be this camera on me 1.00

00:09:09.600 yes that's stupid use your common sense don't forget the blogs forget how you feel about me 1.00

00:09:17.000 hate me if you want to love me if you want but just use your common sense how stupid would it be for me 1.00

00:09:22.860 to with my crazy past and what i've been through oh right now i just think i need to be a monster and 0.99

00:09:31.120 hold girls against their will chain them up in my basement and and don't let them eat and don't let 0.99

00:09:36.420 them out unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle stop it y'all quit playing

00:09:42.660 quit playing i didn't do this stuff this is not me i'm fighting for my life the problem here though

00:09:52.000 is he has multiple girlfriends that he's supposedly living with yeah so his right now his point is i

00:09:58.840 didn't hold them against their will and that may very well be true i just feel like if i'm in the spot

00:10:04.460 where i've gone through that in my life maybe living with multiple girlfriends is not the path

00:10:08.740 you go down maybe you examine where you've been and where you're going a little bit and maybe make

00:10:14.100 some different choices i it's a technicality i know but as long as the two girlfriends are both of 0.95

00:10:22.180 age there's nothing illegal about it i mean you might maybe at some point be a little introspective

00:10:28.320 and say perhaps this road is not the road i should be traveling on why it's just a different

00:10:33.680 choice in today's world well it's just a different choice yes you're making the argument from the

00:10:39.120 left's point of view which i don't agree with right i mean like again it's a tough one because i i would

00:10:43.920 agree and i think everyone would agree if you are in this position and this is what you've done with

00:10:49.140 your life so far and remember this guy got a reprieve he was able to come not only he was yes he was

00:10:54.480 acquitted but a lot of people get acquitted and their careers are still over he he was able to come all

00:10:59.200 the way back i mean that he was another he was a star again and for this to happen again is you know

00:11:04.300 it's it's i'm sure shaking his life up a little bit but we've seen too too often it would be really 1.00

00:11:09.440 stupid for him to do this it would be uh it also would be really stupid to have sex with an intern 1.00

00:11:15.240 in the oval office right like you know we've we've seen this how many times half the country has no 1.00

00:11:22.940 memory of what you're even talking about how dare you even bring that up but no it's okay to bring up

00:11:27.920 now because she's no longer useful to the democrats so now it's okay to bash bill clinton that's right 1.00

00:11:32.240 that's right okay yeah it makes it okay yeah he was a dirtbag wasn't he yeah now we we and by the 0.50

00:11:37.320 way we were with you the entire time conservatives when you were concerned about uh character wow we

00:11:42.520 were on your side we just didn't quite get to admitting it until the moment hillary clinton was

00:11:47.300 out of our lives and now we are totally principled

00:11:51.040 the best of the glenn beck program

00:11:55.860 pat gray joins us now pat welcome to the program thank you good to be here yeah yeah yeah i'm very

00:12:08.860 excited are you yes yeah and because you're very excited to talk about uh russian women

00:12:15.540 russian women this is a jeffy not the mail order bride right okay so you're excited about russian

00:12:21.100 women yes well one in particular who took care of a situation in her convenience store that needed 1.00

00:12:26.740 to be handled and then went back about her business this is it if you haven't seen this video this is

00:12:31.960 unbelievable a fight breaks out between a couple of drunk guys and in america or russia no in russia

00:12:38.140 okay and she's she's behind the counter she's she's the clerk and watch what she does here this is 1.00

00:12:45.280 absolutely amazing we'll explain it on radio

00:12:47.940 so one guy's pushing another against like a like a vending machine or refrigerator here she comes 0.99

00:12:56.480 little girl boom oh my gosh okay kicks him and then he gets in her face 1.00

00:13:01.580 boom oh my gosh and then she spins oh my gosh back behind the counter next i'm sorry do you do i

00:13:11.900 give you your change yet he's still out he's still out and everybody just looks down back down at

00:13:18.740 their phone i mean it's almost like america looks down at their phone that is a russian woman is that 1.00

00:13:24.520 amazing that's amazing because that's not even a big woman either no no she's tiny and there's not 1.00

00:13:30.280 even it's not a i was picturing an element of surprise there like she no surprise at all no

00:13:35.280 he actually she actually hits him a couple times first yeah kicks him once and then he gets right 1.00

00:13:40.080 up in her face and she just gives him a straight right that cold cocks him you hear him crack his 1.00

00:13:45.060 head on the floor that's fantastic i love that video the other thing about it though is the men

00:13:51.380 stand around there's what four men in there yeah nobody does anything it takes the russian woman 1.00

00:13:56.200 to go up and deal with this situation i kind of sad really uh have we been probably the kind of

00:14:03.220 thing that would happen in a convenience store here with the exception of the russian woman right i mean 1.00

00:14:07.880 people just don't want to get involved and and men have been de-gibletized so they've been no

00:14:13.720 giblets really yeah they're gibletized gibletized gibletized i like that okay thank you for that yeah

00:14:21.720 you're welcome yeah uh so i i think that's important to note and you know maybe we need

00:14:26.080 to get our giblets back as men certainly in america i think we do uh but you know masculinity 0.67

00:14:32.420 is supposed to be a bad thing now it's a toxic thing it's it's terrible and we're being told that

00:14:36.720 all the time so you know i think this is why i think this is why donald trump is

00:14:41.860 so successful and and why he has why he has um connected with so many people think how many i

00:14:53.400 mean there are no examples of of men being men okay james bond that's it a movie okay there's no

00:15:01.920 male role models would you agree with that pretty much yeah okay so donald trump here's a guy who

00:15:10.220 marries a supermodel right is like yeah i can make it with any model i want he's over the top 0.86

00:15:17.700 but he fights back he doesn't he doesn't flinch he doesn't take any garbage from anybody he is

00:15:24.840 the he is the almost cartoon of an alpha dog yeah he is you know what i mean and i think because we 0.77

00:15:35.080 have taken alpha dogs and shot them all when he comes to the table there's a lot of guys who are 0.88

00:15:42.120 out there going yeah damn right that's why he was elected isn't it right and a lot of young guys 0.89

00:15:47.880 that are looking at him almost as a father figure yeah absolutely i think that's i think that's a huge

00:15:54.680 part of his appeal it is absolutely happening uh also did you see cnn's little panel that

00:16:00.780 allison camarada did allison camarada has been fully cnnized hasn't she uh yes and she left fox

00:16:08.740 it's pretty amazing and anyway she's sitting down talking to this little focus group of about six

00:16:14.380 people and she starts asking about joe biden and here's what happened there how many of you would

00:16:19.980 like to see joe biden get in show of hands what's happening his time is done i'll be honest i used

00:16:27.820 to think like you know because obviously he was right under the old obama wave and i thought he was

00:16:32.980 the i thought he was the person that would unite the party but to be honest you know senator biden

00:16:38.820 really comes from the kind of the good old boy politics of the past i don't think joe biden represents

00:16:45.420 that new thing that we need we just we need a new economy we need a new politics and we need

00:16:51.260 someone that's something yeah they need new economy and they go on to explain they're talking about

00:16:55.520 somebody more extreme they want somebody further left than joe biden he's not left enough for him now

00:17:00.320 so it looks to me like i mean this is only six people but it's starting to affect the democrat rank

00:17:07.780 and file now this shift to the left in the democrat party has i think affected just about all

00:17:14.800 democrats they're becoming the socialist party of america well i i will tell you because there is not

00:17:21.680 another idea on the right where is the person on the right that says look we are going into a new

00:17:31.040 economy but i'm not talking about a green economy i'm talking about a digital economy do you know that

00:17:37.400 41 percent of the jobs that were lost in the last year have been lost to automation and they were not

00:17:45.300 in manufacturing okay they're not going to the car to the car companies anymore those jobs are now

00:17:53.420 starting to be automated that regular people had so we're losing jobs we've got a new economy and

00:18:00.940 nobody's talking about it we have a way to move so rapidly now and this government cannot keep up with

00:18:08.840 it it's time to streamline the government it's time to um set it in place for 2018 uh congress raise your

00:18:18.240 hands here how many of you actually know the difference between ai agi and asi maybe three

00:18:24.380 maybe okay how how are you going to protect us how are you even going to protect us if you don't know

00:18:31.620 what that is right now our biggest problem in our country is is stem we we are not turning out kids 0.92

00:18:40.260 that know anything about science technology mathematics nothing they don't know it how are we going to

00:18:49.160 compete in this new digital world with stem common core common core math that's not the answer where

00:18:58.680 are the big ideas on our side there aren't well nobody can articulate them no is there anybody that

00:19:05.280 can do you have confidence in anyone's ability in say a position of power to articulate these things

00:19:12.740 no nobody does so here's the problem democrats have all kinds of people articulating their theories

00:19:18.940 their ideology but they're not nobody right and they're not new those are all old ideas that

00:19:26.280 have been read their carl marx ideas correct so they've all been repackaged but they feel new to

00:19:33.160 people and instinctively people know we can't have joe biden who's been in there since 1951 right

00:19:41.860 on this new this new economy and they're talking about a green economy but there is a new

00:19:48.620 economy it is a tech economy i will say though i mean if joe biden does not enter this race he does

00:19:53.740 not want to be president i mean he leads in every poll oh yeah this is a lot this is this is cnn

00:19:58.960 yeah i i mean those those six people may be representative of those six people and certainly

00:20:03.540 more but i mean generally speaking the democrats the democratic voters seem to want joe biden in

00:20:08.260 pretty badly i mean again like you know you could say that it's it's name recognition and then it's

00:20:12.260 certainly part of it against some of these uh other contenders but i mean everybody knows

00:20:15.820 bernie sanders name by now if you're a democratic primary voter you know who bernie sanders is and

00:20:20.540 and biden is is beating bernie sanders usually in the double digits he's ahead of everybody in

00:20:25.960 double digits i think including kamala harris yep everybody i think she was second in the latest

00:20:30.460 poll that i saw it was like 30 to 20 yeah certain certain states you know like sanders does well in

00:20:35.160 new hampshire um you know uh so there's there's a few different states you know and you know who doesn't

00:20:40.380 do well in new hampshire oddly is elizabeth warren who i just don't think she has any chance 1.00

00:20:43.740 no she's she's done she's over but still like i mean biden if he does not get in is going to open

00:20:48.500 up an entire wing because there's no everyone else is competing for the socialist vote essentially

00:20:54.340 and and joe biden is no conservative they make it seem like oh this moderate joe biden he's the one

00:21:01.400 who's pushed he pushed obama to the left about 10 times during that presidency he's he was one that

00:21:05.900 was blurting out the gay marriage position yeah yeah happened right yeah i mean do you remember he was

00:21:10.520 he was one of the most i think top three liberal senators in the senate yeah so he's no conservative

00:21:16.340 just compared to these socialists that are running oh yeah totally to the point where joe biden looks

00:21:22.440 moderate to us that's a frightening place to be somebody called me on my show uh on pat grand leashed

00:21:27.780 um which happens right before this show uh on the blaze radio tv network and they said uh what do you

00:21:34.240 and glenn and stew think if uh if a democrat actually wins in 2020 and they have so they have

00:21:40.820 the executive they have the house and if they win they probably they'll probably get the senate yeah

00:21:46.880 so they'll have a majority in in congress and they'll have the executive office is there going

00:21:52.880 to be any stopping their socialist policies and i think the answer to that is no no in that i bet you

00:21:57.880 one of the first things they do is get rid of this filibuster in the senate absolutely they will

00:22:02.760 they don't care about that no they don't care about it they only care about it when there's

00:22:06.240 republican majority that's the only time they care about it and they're going to say look trump said

00:22:10.080 he wanted it and you guys didn't fight it then and they'll be right and they'll be right and so

00:22:15.020 and they will just use that as an excuse to to move that progressive line a little bit further

00:22:19.640 and they will pass every single thing they want to pass it is the most important election of all time

00:22:24.220 the next president the next president is going to have to deal with a recession and that will be the

00:22:30.540 the emergency that will allow them you think it won't come till after 2020 no i think it could

00:22:36.980 come before if it comes before that's a bad thing if it comes if it if it hits before some good news

00:22:42.820 that came out of europe um yesterday uh everyone i think except everyone i think except uh italy

00:22:53.060 was at least flat in their um their growth uh and they were expected to go down which would have

00:23:01.560 meant recession all throughout europe china is the only one that has bigger growth than us but take

00:23:08.440 that with a grain of rice uh here in america we have 2.6 uh percent growth on our gdp so last year i was

00:23:17.380 just looking at the stats it was 3.1 last year right 2018 so we are we are still okay we're not great but

00:23:24.760 we're still okay and europe did not go into uh an official recession which everyone expected so we

00:23:32.180 bought ourselves some more time and that's good but if it comes before this election it's going to be

00:23:37.120 trouble for the republicans uh and if it comes after the election and the democrats are in they are

00:23:43.940 going to use that to absolutely change us to a new economy and that's they will that's the green

00:23:51.480 economy

00:23:52.500 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:23:58.000 like listening to this podcast if you're not a subscriber become one now on itunes

00:24:13.140 but while you're there do us a favor and rate the show all right so we all know that uh twitter

00:24:19.140 we we've we've all watched twitter be unbelievably hypocritical they are so fast to ban anyone on the

00:24:28.140 right but boy when it comes to the left it's chance after chance after chance now that's not the way

00:24:34.840 jack uh looks at it but jack along with uh twitter's you know uh mouthpiece was uh was in the joe rogan show

00:24:46.240 last night and it is really worth listening to because tim pool was there now tim was a journalist

00:24:53.340 used to be with vice he has been following this uh for a long time he is a free speech absolutist

00:25:00.800 and twitter has a problem with free speech and over and over in the joe rogan experience last night

00:25:08.360 they were talking about how um you know they're trying to create a place where everyone feels free

00:25:15.900 and comfortable to speak and he said well that's not working it's not working for conservatives

00:25:24.180 you know your liberals might feel free to speak but the conservatives don't feel free to speak

00:25:29.940 and that seemed to be lost on um jack and his uh twitter friend here's a little bit between

00:25:39.720 journalist tim pool and twitter ceo jack dorsey listen you don't think we should have any rules about

00:25:48.020 abuse and harassment so even that the threats that you received that you mentioned but you mentioned

00:25:53.540 a number of threats that you received and you were quite frustrated that we hadn't taken action on them

00:25:57.420 you think we shouldn't have rules that i'm frustrated because of the hypocrisy of when i when i see only i

00:26:03.440 see the flow of one direction and then what i see are republican politicians who in my opinion are just 0.98

00:26:07.840 too ignorant to understand what the hell's going on around them and i see people burning signs that say 0.96

00:26:11.900 free speech i see you openly saying we recognize the power of our platform and we're not going to 0.98

00:26:18.000 abide by american norms i see the manipulation of twitter for in violation of our elections i see

00:26:24.160 democratic operatives in alabama waging a false flag campaign using fake russian accounts and this and

00:26:29.960 the guy who runs that company has not been banned from your platform even after it's been written by

00:26:34.400 the new york times he was doing this so we know that not only are people manipulating your platform

00:26:39.140 you have rules that remove honest american citizens with bad opinions who have a right to engage in public

00:26:44.440 discourse and it's like you recognize it but you like having the power so he he really made some strong

00:26:53.840 points when she kept going back so you say no rules he's saying no not not no rules american standards so in

00:27:02.000 other words if you are if you're threatening someone with with harm if you're inciting violence yes

00:27:10.440 but if you have an opinion and one of the things that um uh kept coming up was learn to code

00:27:18.380 and learn to code was it became really uh a a flag for people to rally around of the arrogance of the

00:27:29.600 elites when um you know when uh manufacturing jobs were lost reporters were told reporters said well they

00:27:39.560 should learn to code well that's not necessarily something a 50 year old is going to be doing in the

00:27:44.760 midwest is learning how to code okay um and it just showed how out of touch these reporters were then when

00:27:52.440 the reporters started being laid off people started saying what's the problem just learn to code well that

00:28:01.460 the hashtag was banned and he was really upset about that and the monopoly that twitter seems to be

00:28:13.860 um creating here here's cut to i understand your point about the influence and i'm not denying that

00:28:19.580 certainly twitter is an influential platform but like anything whether it's the american law or the

00:28:25.960 rules of twitter or the rules of facebook or rules of any platform there are rules and those rules have

00:28:30.560 to be followed so it is your choice whether to follow those rules and to continue to participate

00:28:35.060 in a civic dialogue and it's your choice to not do that absolutely you've monopolized public discourse

00:28:40.380 to an extreme degree and and you say my way or the highway we are facing not tim we haven't monopolized

00:28:45.660 it there are many different avenues for people to continue to have a voice there are many different

00:28:50.160 platforms that offer that we are a largely influential one i'm not trying to take away from that and we're a

00:28:55.040 very important one you don't need to be the most important it's just that you are extremely

00:28:58.860 important and that's and it's a compliment twitter has become extremely powerful but at a certain

00:29:03.860 point you should not have the right to control what people are allowed to say no private or look i'm a

00:29:09.480 social liberal i think we should regulate you guys because you are unelected officials running your

00:29:14.000 system the way you see fit against the wishes of a democratic republic and there are people who

00:29:18.720 disagree with you who are being excised from public discourse because of your ideology

00:29:22.120 okay so here's the problem this is where i think tim goes off the rails a little bit he is for

00:29:27.860 regulation and that's where a lot of people are going to go regulation no the problem with twitter

00:29:34.540 and facebook and google uh is they claim to be a platform you notice he said your platform is very

00:29:43.240 very very uh important uh important you're you're creating a monopoly um here well it is a platform now

00:29:51.800 what is a platform a platform think of that as your uh you know your local uh kiwanis club stage or your

00:30:02.560 local school stage um you know if you had some sort of a local auditorium you could rent it out in a

00:30:11.260 you know a rock band can be there and the next time it could be a speech and it welcomes everybody

00:30:17.080 because it's a public auditorium that's a platform the minute the the auditorium says

00:30:26.640 no no no no we're not going to take any rock bands and uh we don't want that lecture going on we're only

00:30:34.120 going to take lectures like this then that becomes in the digital world a publisher

00:30:40.840 and now here's why this is important if you're a platform you're open to everything except uh we

00:30:48.760 want to have uh we want to rent the auditorium because we're going to uh play about uh uh pedophilia

00:30:56.520 and orgies and it's starring eight-year-old kids and 50-year-old men no no you're not doing that

00:31:04.200 that's against the law okay so once you break the law i don't have to offer my platform to you

00:31:11.460 however as long as it's lawful i gotta i'm a platform i have to be open to everybody and this

00:31:21.180 is important because if you are a platform you are not held responsible for what happens on your

00:31:29.980 platform so if something happens on stage and it's outrageous you can't be sued for it because

00:31:37.620 you're like look we're neutral we're neutral did they break the law no i had nothing to do with them

00:31:45.060 a lot of this comes from copyright protection because if people are posting you know full movies

00:31:49.780 on on uh you know twitter obviously wouldn't be the place for that but a social network

00:31:54.200 then theoretically they could get sued for that because it's their site and people are posting

00:32:00.840 copyright and material on their site however they get a protection from that because they're just a

00:32:06.040 platform they're not going to control everything that everybody posts they just have to take it down

00:32:09.680 when they're aware of it right they say okay look we're a platform we are not we're not judging good

00:32:15.840 and evil we are judging illegal and legal and posting a movie is illegal it violates copyright laws

00:32:24.980 but we don't they don't pass through us first they're posted so you can't hold us liable for this

00:32:31.780 because people have a right to post then if we get something about it then we can take it down

00:32:39.400 if it's illegal the minute they start to say well we didn't like that point of view now you're a publisher

00:32:49.720 now you do have an editorial committee that gets around and says what speech do we like and not like

00:32:58.380 the minute you do that you lose your platform status like the blaze i can be sued for the blaze

00:33:08.040 because we see everything that goes on and sometimes we make mistakes but we have to be held

00:33:15.820 responsible because we are publishing something and we are putting it out i can't be held responsible

00:33:22.440 for comments because people that's just the comment section is just a platform anybody can get on and

00:33:28.720 say anything we monitor them but i can't be held responsible because we're not seeing it you know we're

00:33:35.840 not we're not okaying everything that comes in that's a huge difference and it's a huge legal expense if

00:33:45.620 you're not a platform and so what happened was twitter youtube everybody else went and said we're just a

00:33:53.800 platform we're just a platform that's all we are so you can't have any of these lawsuits about

00:33:59.620 copyrights or anything else we cannot be sued because we're simply a platform and so they got

00:34:07.200 that status from the united states government then they started editing then they became a publisher as

00:34:17.440 well so now they're a publisher that cannot be sued that's not it's good to get it yeah it's great work

00:34:27.360 if you can get it yeah um i'll give you the uh the last piece of this where uh where dorsey actually

00:34:34.880 did say okay you know we probably are a little too tough on conservatives whether that's going to

00:34:41.560 mean anything or not i i doubt you know what's amazing to me is joe rogan is bigger now in influence

00:34:49.120 i think than probably larry king was at his height and nobody in the mainstream media really pays attention

00:34:56.260 him at all and he's talking about the things that people are talking about in in a different way

00:35:03.180 and last night he had um he had tim pool on who is a a liberal probably more a classic liberal

00:35:15.560 um journalist who is who is more journalist than i have heard on any platform in i don't know how long

00:35:23.600 the guy knew his stuff when he came up against twitter and jack dorsey and actually got jack dorsey

00:35:30.400 to say okay okay you're probably right listen this is one of the big problems that people have

00:35:36.920 with this story particularly particularly you have a left-wing activist who works for nbc news i'm not

00:35:42.640 accusing you of having read the article he right he he spends uh like a day lobbying to twitter saying

00:35:48.420 guy you have to do this you have to make these changes the next day he writes a story saying that

00:35:52.460 4chan is organizing these these harassment campaigns and death threats and while 4chan was doing threads

00:35:58.340 about it you can't accuse 4chan simply for talking about it because reddit was talking about it too

00:36:01.620 as was twitter so then the next day he after he published his article now he's getting threats

00:36:07.000 and then twitter issues a statement saying we will take action and to make matters worse

00:36:11.940 when john levine a writer for the rap got a statement from one of your spokespeople

00:36:16.240 saying yes we are banning people for saying learn to code a bunch of journalists came out and then

00:36:22.120 lied i had no idea why saying this is not true this is fake news then a second statement was published

00:36:27.400 by twitter saying it's part of a harassment campaign and so then the mainstream narrative becomes oh they're

00:36:32.540 only banning people who are part of a harassment campaign but you you literally see legitimate high

00:36:36.620 profile individuals getting suspensions for for joining in on a joke oh they're they're for sure

00:36:41.020 probably mistakes in there i don't think that any of us are claiming that we got this 100 right and

00:36:45.180 probably our team having a lack of context into actually what's happening as well and and we

00:36:50.000 would fully admit we probably were way too aggressive when we first saw this as well and made mistakes

00:36:55.520 so the problem is is that in this if you watch this he jack talks about how look we're surrounded by

00:37:06.520 liberals we are liberals we're surrounded by liberals we don't necessarily understand the context but

00:37:13.760 this is what this is what we believe and so yes it will take on that kind of a tone well you have every

00:37:21.280 right to do that but not if you're a platform and i don't hear anybody making that case this is the

00:37:29.920 easiest way to solve this if congress threatens to take away their platform status from google youtube

00:37:38.240 from facebook and from uh twitter if they say you have to choose you're a platform or you're a publisher

00:37:49.900 if they pick publisher then they have every right to ban whoever they want for whatever reason left or

00:37:56.980 right but not if they're a platform with platform protected status it's easy we don't need to regulate

00:38:04.100 do not grow the size of government it won't work out well for you don't grow the size of government

00:38:11.820 just take away their platform status this goes to so many of the points you know that we've made over the

00:38:17.160 years and that you have to have a principle because the principle here i think is what you're talking about

00:38:23.280 don't grow don't grow the size of government don't give government extra power over these types of things

00:38:29.000 and don't it's gonna be damn tempting for conservatives to jump on the bandwagon here

00:38:34.980 because they're the victims of all of this you're you're getting targeted by twitter you're getting

00:38:39.140 targeted by facebook uh all the time and so the the instinct for a human being is to say hey authority

00:38:46.760 figure government step in and write this wrong for me and i don't look how they've distorted the civil

00:38:53.220 rights movement the civil rights movement you could be for the civil rights movement in the 60s

00:38:59.060 you're for the civil rights movement today where it is the color of my skin it's not the content of

00:39:06.420 my character these things change fast they change fast and they never change when they're where when

00:39:11.740 it's an organized government entity it never leans towards freedom and deep down inside of every

00:39:18.320 conservative we know this right like if we let's say we are to pass some sort of rule that um

00:39:25.120 regulates social networks that we believe it's on our behalf right now with 100 certitude the

00:39:34.740 government will figure out a way to make you the victim of that rule you will it will not last you may

00:39:41.560 get a year of not getting banned or something like that in the long run that rule will be expanded

00:39:48.200 and that use will come to fight to hit you more than it's going to hit the left especially when a

00:39:52.700 left government takes over so i you know look it is a really tough one to deal with and i understand

00:39:59.520 why people go that way we've had a lot of good smart conservatives come in and argue for that

00:40:03.160 position um but i mean i think we gotta look we gotta we gotta think past step one here and if you 0.51

00:40:08.800 know step one is is it feels really bad you don't want to get banned i know that sucks i think

00:40:14.240 cruz has brought this up before talking about taking away protections so this is that that is a

00:40:21.220 i think a step potentially in the right direction if you're going to make decisions based on content

00:40:25.740 because you believe some political person is too offensive fine you're just going to deal with it

00:40:30.300 the way the blaze deals with it or the way the new york times deals with it you're going to be a

00:40:33.760 news source you're going to be you're going to be a publisher and you're not going to get the

00:40:37.400 protections that you get from from the platform and you will cut your audience in about half yeah

00:40:42.040 twitter won't be able to exist right in that in that world really well look here's the deal

00:40:46.480 until youtube and everybody else is deemed a platform only or that status is taken away

00:40:53.720 the voices like ours are in jeopardy and you're seeing it stephen crowder is fighting it right now

00:41:00.860 you're seeing it happen um it this is why platforms like the blaze are so important we have to be able

00:41:09.720 to have the ability to reach our audience and the algorithms are shutting us out of that join us

00:41:15.920 at theblaze tv.com you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:41:25.100 hey it's glenn and i want to tell you about something that you should either end your day with

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00:41:56.540 it now wherever you download your favorite podcast sarah i want to talk to you about what's happening on

00:42:02.520 capitol hill right now and we have a outbreak of measles uh and measles should not be happening

00:42:09.700 anymore um i mean you know it's like polio polio is making a comeback what how we eradicated polio

00:42:17.760 no some people don't want to take the vaccine and the balance of rights and public health is a really

00:42:27.680 dicey conversation yeah it is uh you know i would just like to also point out i don't believe that

00:42:34.700 there's been a measles death since there was one in 2015 i believe so you know um i do know that there

00:42:41.400 was a time where people just got the measles and that was just kind of a way of life you know growing

00:42:48.280 up kind of like the chicken pox yeah it wasn't necessarily a deadly you know disease so you know

00:42:54.180 the measles is not so much my concern but i i would like to point out uh earlier i heard that i was

00:43:00.560 referred to as anti-vaccine just set the record straight before i get hate mail i am not anti-vaccine

00:43:05.980 i am pro-information and pro-parents choice just like you said i think that you know it's very clear

00:43:11.800 that vaccines have saved lives um and it's also very clear that vaccines are not 100 safe uh or 100

00:43:19.100 effective so stew there was a new study that just came out extensive study that just came out this

00:43:25.800 week have you seen it sarah i haven't okay um and it showed that vaccines are safe i mean safe

00:43:34.980 safe how did you see that you saw this is a particular study but i mean there's a lot of stuff that goes

00:43:39.880 around this particular topic but this one was particularly about autism right in uh in denmark um

00:43:45.100 and so they did a study it was on 660 000 uh kids born in denmark and denmark is like super the

00:43:52.680 opposite of us like we are uh we're like hey like we should have the right to do what we want to do

00:43:57.440 with our own kids and denmark's like we're going to take every piece of your information and now it's

00:44:02.420 great for researchers because you know it's like part of the law like when your kid is born like they

00:44:06.980 take every piece of health information and give it over to the scientists um so one of the things so

00:44:11.740 this was every kid born in denmark over i think it was a decade um and they found you know no ties

00:44:16.800 to it was actually you were actually less likely to get autism i think it was 17 percent less likely

00:44:21.100 uh to be diagnosed with autism if you got the mmr vaccine um that that's not saying that they think

00:44:28.400 it's vaccinating you against autism uh but uh you know it's just you know look the i think the point

00:44:34.180 of this is more uh and i think this is your point as well here sarah which is like we're this is america

00:44:40.280 and we are and parents we are not it is not does not take a village right we are uh we are the

00:44:47.580 parents and we make the decisions and so the idea that the federal government is going to come in and

00:44:51.560 tell us what what you know what what medicines or vaccines we have to give to our kids is the real

00:44:56.500 i think the real argument here um you know when it comes to uh you know this bigger argument of

00:45:03.400 whether they're good or bad like you know that is i mean you can look at all the science and you

00:45:08.360 can make up your own mind that's what you're supposed to do as a parent right you're supposed

00:45:10.840 to be able to go in there and make up your own decisions do you want to give your kid ibuprofen

00:45:14.240 do you want to give your kid tylenol do you do you want to do these things i mean i you know i'm the

00:45:18.240 same way glenn i and my kids are vaccinated through these things but you know if you you should have

00:45:23.220 that ability and i think that's rand paul's point yes you should have the ability to make it the

00:45:27.300 choice as a parent what is the problem with with doing that if you don't have the vaccine

00:45:32.560 okay so more people are going to get sick but if my kids got the vaccine they're not going to be the

00:45:37.620 ones that got sick i mean there are i mean you know i'm sure the argument is yeah the argument

00:45:42.680 is the people who are yeah herd immunity which again is a theory that was originally proposed

00:45:48.900 um when it comes to natural immunity it's never been herd immunity herd immunity is the idea the theory

00:45:55.040 that as long as so many of citizens in this society are vaccinated we we will maintain that level 0.54

00:46:04.840 you know i was 95 or something percent as long as we maintain that level of vaccine rates the

00:46:10.700 diseases don't the diseases won't come back even if some people don't get the vaccine well how many

00:46:15.740 people are anti-vaccine how many people are not vaccinating their kids it's a very small percentage

00:46:20.560 it's growing significantly right and that's one of the that's why it's become this sort of uh hot

00:46:26.260 button sort of political issue and there are other cases too like you know infants have certain times in

00:46:31.480 their lives where they can't get vaccinated yet so they're vulnerable people would like you know

00:46:35.080 cancer at times they have weakened immune systems so the vaccines don't work as well even if they've

00:46:39.760 been vaccinated there are issues and again like as a society you can say okay well this is what we

00:46:46.020 think the best path is for your health and you should you should do this and we can encourage it

00:46:50.280 but even when you're putting someone else at risk in the united states like we say to people like

00:46:56.660 look we will license you to drive a car and if you do something that we think is wrong or you're

00:47:02.280 putting other people in danger then we will step in and stop that but we all have a choice right like

00:47:07.260 to go in there and we all are at risk of other people doing things that we can't control that's

00:47:11.420 that's just the risk you have in in a free society where people are walking around you know going to

00:47:15.760 the grocery store they might have the flu you know we're not gonna mandate that they do anything

00:47:20.180 but i do think that it's important to point out glenn that you know you said that that the study

00:47:25.040 determined that vaccines were safe um you know in this particular study for autism for this particular

00:47:31.700 right but but i think that we jump to the autism debate far too quickly whenever we talk about

00:47:37.600 vaccines and safety we say no no it doesn't cause autism that's that's already been debunked and we

00:47:42.800 forget that a vaccine is a medication that we're injecting into our bodies just like any other medication

00:47:48.500 that we're putting into our bodies people are going to have different reactions so i mean vaccines have

00:47:54.280 you know adverse reactions ranging from very mild to incredibly severe to death sometimes and so i

00:48:00.420 think that it's important you know even the association of american physicians and surgeons

00:48:05.660 just came out and put out a statement saying forced vaccinations violates human rights because

00:48:10.840 vaccines are not 100 safe or 100 effective so to say to someone we're going to force you to inject

00:48:17.680 your infant not knowing yet how they're going to respond that's a problem and i think that we lose

00:48:22.600 side of that in this debate because we jumped straight to autism as if there are no other

00:48:26.600 side effects that could happen it's like if we said everybody every male has to take cialis

00:48:31.340 well some of us are going to have a four-hour erection and going to have to go to the hospital

00:48:35.800 not that you have any experience with that right i don't stepping back though here for a second like

00:48:42.660 let's just let me make the worst point of all time every vaccine do that causes autism 95 times

00:48:49.420 over for every child that's my my viewpoint okay that okay now it's not my viewpoint but let's just

00:48:54.500 say it was should i be able to go out and blab about that as much as i want in a society that has

00:48:59.860 a first amendment yes the answer that has to be yes i don't care how crazy the viewpoint is there's way

00:49:04.900 crazier crap on the internet uh than uh than than anything we could possibly come up with here today

00:49:10.880 like for example there's a new book in the top uh 50 overall on amazon i found this yesterday it's 0.99

00:49:17.880 incredible it's about the q anonymous whatever the hell that thing is right the the q conspiracy theory

00:49:24.940 that has been out for a while that that thinks that donald trump is going to i guess he's working

00:49:30.480 with robert muller to push back against hillary clinton who controls the government somehow it may

00:49:36.240 have worked a little bit in 2016 how it works now i don't know this is the best of the glenn beck

00:49:43.280 program

00:49:43.820 so when did we all become socialists that's the question from the new york times magazine this last

00:49:59.860 sunday and uh the answer is we're not all socialists maybe you in the newsroom have uh have

00:50:07.660 gone all socialists but america has not gone all socialists this uh last weekend i was at cpac

00:50:14.340 and um and i decided to break off and go into one of the smaller conference rooms uh because there was

00:50:22.280 a um there was a speaker that i wanted to hear and his name is justin haskins and uh he is he was

00:50:29.320 very funny and uh and just really sharp on socialism and the green new deal uh he is he's written for

00:50:37.920 the blaze uh regularly he also is a contributor for the washington examiner and also columnist for

00:50:44.080 townhall.com welcome to the program justin how are you i'm doing great thanks for having me glenn

00:50:50.160 you bet uh i wanted to i wanted to go over the five myths of socialism i don't know if you saw this

00:50:55.280 from the washington post i did yeah and uh and also when did when did everybody become socialist

00:51:01.160 from the new york times um can you answer can you answer that one yeah sure uh i don't think any i

00:51:08.540 don't think everyone has become socialist as you pointed out i think that we're living in a time

00:51:13.920 when socialism is clearly on the rise especially among young people and i imagine that if you spent

00:51:19.840 all of your time living in the sort of greenwich village new york bubble that uh the writer of

00:51:25.440 this particular article that you're referencing does then yeah i'm sure everyone seems like they're

00:51:29.900 socialists but if you go out to you know iowa or something i'm sure you're going to find a lot of

00:51:34.900 people who do not believe in uh carl marx's ideology uh it's on the rise but it's definitely not

00:51:41.820 something that we that that you could say is quintessential america no question about that

00:51:46.900 um so let me give you the the the five myths about socialism because you just wrote a new book

00:51:52.460 uh uh about socialism and for the name escapes me i'm sorry it's the name of it socialism is evil

00:51:59.420 pretty pretty easy book to remember yeah pretty easy i haven't read it yet and i want to have you

00:52:05.500 on next week to talk about it after i've had a chance to read it um but uh you're pretty clear

00:52:11.160 on socialism you were you were very clear and very funny about the green new deal

00:52:17.380 on on how this is clearly just socialism it has nothing to do uh with uh with green energy or anything

00:52:27.580 else correct yeah the green new deal is the most radical dangerous destructive policy proposal in

00:52:35.860 modern american history it is a socialist trojan horse without any question at all um

00:52:41.140 and and the obvious way to realize that this is the case is that if you really believed

00:52:45.560 that we were about to head into some sort of post-apocalyptic hellscape 100 years into the

00:52:50.860 future or that 12 years from now we're all going to be dead as alexander ocasio-cortez suggested not

00:52:56.860 too long ago then you wouldn't waste a single penny of taxpayer money on things like a federal jobs

00:53:03.440 guarantee or land use practices for farmers or um basic income programs or free college tuition or

00:53:13.340 upgrading homes for safety and comfort i mean the list goes on and on and on the green new deal is

00:53:18.080 full of socialist programs climate change is just a convenient excuse the left uses uh especially

00:53:25.320 democratic socialists to enact all of the programs that they've always wanted to enact uh with or without

00:53:31.180 climate change you know that you said this justin and it just struck me as so true that if you are

00:53:37.360 really truly like ocasio-cortez says we only have 12 years before we're all dead before this thing is just

00:53:46.220 out of control you wouldn't talk about anything else nothing else you wouldn't your whole campaign

00:53:54.420 your whole life would be centered around that yeah absolutely right it's sort of like you know in new

00:54:01.000 york city i know you you spent some time in new york city so you know this you go to times square and

00:54:05.860 you see a guy on the side of the road in times square with with a like an old pizza box that says

00:54:11.040 the end is here you know the end of the world is about to come it's it's like he's there every single

00:54:17.560 day and the end of the world never comes but then it would be like if he started putting like taping

00:54:21.580 another little small sign next to it saying oh and rent is too high it's like does it matter if

00:54:29.740 rent is too high if the world is about to end right i mean that's that's where we're at that was one of

00:54:34.980 the things with the sort of uh the faq that was attached to the uh green new deal when it came out

00:54:40.900 and they were so embarrassed about it and they hit it right away um and it said stuff like let's get

00:54:45.500 rid of airplanes and ocasio-cortez went on twitter's like i like to fly to puerto rico and i'm not saying

00:54:50.760 that well why aren't you saying it you're saying the entire earth is going to disintegrate in a decade

00:54:55.520 why would you want to fly to go see your family you can't call them why are you even going to

00:55:00.440 washington dc to vote on these things you can't come up with a system to vote on the internet

00:55:04.200 it's completely ridiculous it's so clear that this is just something and you've talked about this glenn

00:55:09.600 and i think you have as well justin is like it's this concept of perpetual constant war we can't

00:55:14.600 always have a world war one or world war two to get people to do what we want we need to come up

00:55:18.200 with something and the environment is it where it's this constant war all the time we can always

00:55:23.520 bend the rules we can always take more power because things are always dire we're always

00:55:29.220 teetering on that cliff of the earth just going away so of course we can justify anything well look

00:55:34.920 at how much uh just the patriot act changed this country think of that patriot act completely changed

00:55:43.600 changed us changed our theories of privacy and and and security entirely entirely and you just put

00:55:52.840 one of those in because you're in a new war you put this new green deal act in and it will uh it will

00:55:59.360 change us more than the patriot act would you agree with that justin totally oh yeah absolutely and the

00:56:05.740 best and the best from a from a socialist perspective the best part about the green new deal

00:56:10.680 is because it's dealing with climate change it's always 80 years off into the future or something

00:56:16.120 you can always say oh well we just got the prediction the model a little wrong but 20 years

00:56:21.980 from now it's going to be chaos or and then 20 years comes and nothing happens and 20 years from now

00:56:27.460 it's going to be chaos you can always predict it off into the future and just say yeah this is a

00:56:33.500 problem that's going to happen i know it hasn't happened yet but it's going to trust me and because the

00:56:38.300 media all backs it uh everyone just goes along and believes it so one of the myths that they they

00:56:44.700 bring up uh from the washington post is that all socialists want to abolish markets and private

00:56:51.800 property and that's just not true they just they they they just want a little more uh control on a few

00:56:59.200 things that really matter right yeah i think in the short term there are certainly socialist parties

00:57:07.500 and groups that are not advocating for the end of private property tomorrow but every single one

00:57:13.700 of them has the same goal the utopian goal that they're all looking for that carl marx was talking

00:57:19.160 about 150 years ago is the same it's we want to live in a world where there is absolutely are no classes

00:57:25.740 at all which means no groups of people with different amounts of wealth everybody has the same amount

00:57:30.580 of wealth that's what we want and every socialist party even the democratic socialists of america were

00:57:36.220 very careful to say on their website you know we don't want uh to abolish property tomorrow say

00:57:41.280 eventually though we would like to abolish private property i mean that would be great so they're all

00:57:46.360 working towards that same cause it's it's not true that uh there are socialists out there who say

00:57:51.880 ah we like capitalism uh but just we want some mark you know some controls on it no no no they want to

00:57:58.420 abolish property they want to abolish private property they want it to be completely controlled

00:58:02.620 by the collective it's just a matter of how long they want to do how long they're willing to wait

00:58:07.260 to have this happen and how extreme they're willing to be at this very moment what's the strongest

00:58:12.440 message that we can deliver to people who think that socialism is neat and it's probably some sort of an app

00:58:21.960 right uh i think the strongest message that conservatives uh can give and it's something

00:58:30.440 that frankly uh conservatives have been incredibly terrible at this over the past few decades

00:58:36.500 is uh we have this tendency to obsess over economics and then just seed the moral high ground entirely on

00:58:43.760 this issue and so we spend all of our time talking about wow we got to lower tax rates and oh we need

00:58:49.080 gdp growth and it's like you know what those things are not the most important things in the

00:58:53.180 world the most important things in the world are individual freedom unalienable rights i have the

00:58:58.840 right to my property to my life to live my life the way i see fit not to have some majority or some

00:59:05.640 bureaucracy somewhere decide how i'm going to live my life and that those are the conversations that we

00:59:10.960 need to have that conversation about natural law and where do my rights come from do they come from

00:59:16.420 the government or do they come from somewhere else we're not even having those conversations we're

00:59:21.020 not even we're not even on the edge of those conversations uh in in common discourse we're too

00:59:26.580 busy fighting over these minute little issues that at the end of the day don't matter what really matters

00:59:31.580 is can we focus on individual liberty and personal freedom or should we have a society where the

00:59:38.440 collective decides everything and if you happen to be in the minority well then too bad for you

00:59:43.500 that is the that that's the thing that um bothers me the most i mean you look at slavery the majority

00:59:51.780 could have voted for slavery in fact the supreme court said slavery was okay it wasn't you know

00:59:59.060 even if you're in a a a democratic socialist uh market if you will if the majority votes that you

01:00:09.900 have to do something that's still slavery i don't care if everybody else voted for it you didn't it's

01:00:16.320 still slavery yeah that's right and actually when the when the country was founded this was one of the 0.88

01:00:23.700 debates that the loyalists had with with those who were you know were the patriots the people who

01:00:29.100 wanted to move away from england they basically said you know look why should i trade one tyrant

01:00:36.220 you know three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away that whole quote you know

01:00:41.700 that was in the patriot and my madder biles likely said it a massachusetts pastor i mean that whole

01:00:47.300 that whole notion of well you know democracy can be tyranny too yet we have this obsession in america

01:00:53.540 over democracy like democracy is somehow this inherently good thing democracy is not inherently good

01:00:59.040 democracy can be evil what is inherently good is individual liberty coupled with democracy that

01:01:06.380 system works and that's that is totally incompatible with socialism because socialism doesn't allow for

01:01:13.160 individual rights i mean hezbollah was was democratically elected democracy on his own is not

01:01:19.420 necessarily great let me let me take one more thing here with you justin uh because i mean because i

01:01:24.260 agree with you and your criticisms on you know where the left is going let's point inward a little

01:01:29.160 bit here though i think quite often we on the right um have uh it's easy to be principled when you're in

01:01:36.920 the minority it's easily it's easy to be principled when things are going your way but when things hit

01:01:42.800 you we've talked about several examples over the past couple of weeks where things where it feels like

01:01:47.180 you're really getting screwed and i just need a little bit more power from the government to be able to

01:01:52.760 enforce this thing that i want see this is this thing though is a real problem and i really need 0.97

01:01:56.680 the extra power this time yes the constitution but this is too important how do you i don't feel

01:02:02.240 like people in those moments typically are able to bring themselves back to those principles

01:02:07.240 that really have guided the country the entire way yeah you're you're exactly right um what we need

01:02:14.520 desperate with the biggest opportunity that was missed by republicans and there were a lot of

01:02:18.780 opportunities missed over the past couple of years uh was this idea of embracing the freedom to fail

01:02:25.440 okay the country was established with very different communities with completely different ideas very

01:02:32.760 different than the states that we have today and yet it worked because they were willing to say to

01:02:37.680 each other we know that we're different but we're going to allow each other within some

01:02:42.200 within with some constraints we're going to allow each other to live the way we believe is right

01:02:47.060 we're not going to impose those beliefs on each other that's why we have state constitutions and

01:02:51.040 state rights and we have totally moved away from that both in the republican party and in the

01:02:55.920 democratic party and now it seems like every four years the world is about to end for somebody

01:03:01.480 because we're going to have this incredibly important election where we're about to elect some

01:03:05.960 imperial president who's going to make all of our decisions for us and then he gets to appoint

01:03:10.820 a couple of open seats to the supreme court and then the supreme court's going to decide by a two vote

01:03:16.200 margin how what liberty means for 330 million people does this sound like a free society not at all not

01:03:23.760 at all uh justin we'll have you back uh next week we want to talk a little bit about your new book it's

01:03:28.340 called uh socialism is evil uh and uh if you've if you've ever read justin or you've ever listened to

01:03:35.400 him uh speak this the first time you could see he has a great sense of humor and and and uh very well

01:03:41.020 read uh justin haskins uh thank you so much for being on the blaze radio network

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