Glenn and Stu discuss the debt ceiling, Ron DeSantis' announcement, and the fallout from Target's decision to pull LGBTQ-friendly kids clothing from their stores. Plus, the latest on the latest in the Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales numbers.
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00:02:47.340So, in the podcast last week for Fortune, called Leadership Next, the CEO of Target, Brian Cornell, was asked about the backlash to woke capitalism,
00:03:02.800and specifically about Budweiser and Disney.
00:03:06.740He said, you know, I think these are just good business decisions, and it's the right thing to do for society, and it's a great thing for our brand.
00:03:17.220The things we've done from a D, E, and I, diversity, equity, and inclusion standpoint, it's adding value.
00:04:08.880So it was last week, the story was, they're going to stick to their guns.
00:04:13.940Well, Target came out on yesterday, Tuesday, said the retail giant is going to pull some of its LGBTQ-friendly kids' clothing from its stores after facing customer backlash.
00:04:27.560Just days after the company's talk executive dismissed the social media uproar, the Minneapolis-based chain said one of the main factors in the nationwide adjustment ahead of Pride Month was because some customers had become violent with workers.
00:04:44.540Well, I hope that that is not true, and if that is happening, I don't want anything to do with that.
00:04:52.340If you were to harass a Target employee violently over clothing.
00:05:19.680Since introducing this year's collection, we've experienced threats impacting our team members' sense of safety and well-being while it works, said the Target spokesperson.
00:05:28.380Given these volatile circumstances, we are making adjustments to our plans, including removing items that have been at the center of the most significant confrontational behavior.
00:05:36.060Target declined to say whether it would remove the tuck-friendly women's swimsuits that allow trans women, their men, who have not had gender-affirming operations to conceal their junk.
00:05:50.440One of the LGBTQ brands being pulled, however, is Abpralin, which makes t-shirts, sweatshirts, bags, mainly because, you know, it's a cult and satanic-themed LGBTQ t-shirts and stuff.
00:06:09.980Criticism has been widespread, Target spokesperson said.
00:06:14.760Folks are reaching out with feedback, and while some are sharing it with constructive criticism, they disagree with product decisions that we have made.
00:06:22.900Target shares were down 3% yesterday at closing.
00:09:16.620Like, I don't know that Disney's business was particularly harmed by any of the stuff that happened there.
00:09:21.640But, maybe, I mean, they, a lot of the stuff that has been talked about, we talked about this with the DeSantis situation, they acted like they were blaming DeSantis for this $1 billion project that they shut down.
00:09:36.560When, in reality, they had already pretty much shut it down previously.
00:09:39.560But, still, like, nobody wants to be the next Disney.
00:11:39.340I think too, one of the things that's interesting about the Bud Light thing, and I've gone through this myself, is it's not as much about some sort of organized boycott against this company.
00:11:50.640Because honestly, I don't know that, like, I've heard a lot of people talking about that, but it's not like a typical boycott that we've been on the other side of, right?
00:11:57.480Where you have all these big organizations.
00:12:00.000One of the things I think with Bud Light, and maybe Target is getting to that point, is that it's created some level of, like, societal, like, ickiness.
00:12:11.160Like, it's one of those things that, like, I went to a, I think I mentioned this story, I went to a wedding, and they had all the beers up there.
00:12:19.340And normally, I'm going to have one beer at a wedding, I'll probably have a Bud Light just because it's the one I, but I looked at it and I was like, eh, I don't want to get a conversation.
00:12:27.480Conversation about transgender issues tonight with somebody, I'll take a Miller Lite.
00:12:32.420And I think that is, like, what is actually affecting the sales.
00:12:36.180I don't know that it's, like, everyone be like, I'm, you know, yes, we have people who are shooting, you know, Kid Rock is shooting his Bud Light with machine guns.
00:12:43.640But I think part of it, too, is just, like, people want to avoid it, and it's created this societal pressure on people to just choose something else.
00:12:52.320When that happens, when somebody comes into the house with a Target bag, or you say, oh, I got this at Target, and they'll say, you're shopping at Target?
00:13:17.140For those of you who listen for the doom and gloom, I'm still here.
00:13:21.040But good things are happening as well.
00:13:23.720There is something happening in America.
00:13:26.960And Anheuser-Busch going down and staying down.
00:13:31.400And now, just in a couple of days, I mean, the icky feeling happened with me and my wife when we were walking through Target, and it's right there.
00:22:33.960I mean, I've been to a campus here in Texas that have these great signs that says some teachers and employees here will protect the children.
00:23:28.040And so we're a long time past that, and we need to get better because the problem with schools is the standards as far as the law enforcement officers there.
00:23:38.460A lot of times there's some great school resource officers, and they're phenomenal.
00:23:43.020But there's a lot of them that law enforcement agencies are using it as a dumping ground for officers, and they're not maintaining their skills.
00:23:50.860And these are the folks that are going to be shooting around your kids, and they can't shoot.
00:23:56.000So I'm trying to fix that, trying to stay, you know, I don't want to, you know, push the, it's the training standards is really what it is for the state.
00:25:25.240When is the conservatives in America going to start fighting, you know, for, they've been pushed back for so long and are told, no, you can't fight.
00:25:32.480Well, let me tell you, the other side is pushing.
00:25:35.960You know, we have a mental health crisis in America.
00:25:39.100And so it's huge, but, you know, I try to just say, hey, Texas, let's fix this.
00:25:44.360Okay, so if we change the standards, first of all, tell me what the standards are.
00:25:48.180I'm a really good shot, but I generally only shoot during the summer.
00:25:53.380I shoot all summer long, and I get so busy when I'm down here in Dallas that I just don't usually shoot unless I'm, you know, I don't do any live firing.
00:26:03.320And I don't know, if I were standing in front of a class and somebody came in, I would hesitate just enough because I'd be like, am I good enough shot to hit him over there without hitting any of the kids?
00:26:16.220You know, you really have to be up on your skills and confident to pull a gun out, especially in a school where there's kids everywhere.
00:26:45.400And then what we do is so they have to meet a time and an accuracy.
00:26:48.180So they shoot these standards, and then they have to go into a live fire environment, which is we have a shoot house, and they shoot real bullets.
00:26:55.760What they do is they have to clear rooms, T-intersection, outside contact, and they have to be able to put on tourniquets and do a little bit of medical.
00:27:04.220So they have to complete these, and we document it.
00:27:18.420Because I am willing to go into court and testify as an expert witness, and all our standards that I teach exceed the state law enforcement.
00:27:47.680We have schools that want to have their own ISD police.
00:27:50.980And so you have these schools and superintendents that have never run a police department have their own personal police department, but they don't understand the standards of training.
00:27:59.420And that becomes a train wreck in itself.
00:28:01.120So these officers are not training like they should, and they're on, they should be active shooter response.
00:28:24.900So, tell me, is this something that has to be pushed by the state legislature, or can you just, if you're in, you know, you're a parent and you're like, I want to bring this to the school board.
00:28:36.040I think we should have these guardians there.
00:28:43.600The people on the school boards now are asking the questions and the right questions, and then what is the training standards?
00:28:50.840And so, what happens is the more the parents get involved and the school board members and get in touch with the superintendents, they can make these programs happen.
00:29:59.660And so, what I want to do is I left special ops and decided, you know, punched out my master's degree and then started my business to help law enforcement in the United States.