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00:00:00.000 hey everybody great uh great podcast for you today we start with did we blow up the nordstrom

00:00:07.140 pipeline and what does that mean uh we're getting into some some really dicey territory

00:00:14.820 and uh and people in the senate and congress don't know what's true and what's not can we

00:00:22.340 prove this and what's with the story that was released two hours later was kind of a tit for

00:00:29.340 tat oh yeah well look at this now breaking on cnn about vladimir putin are we watching a play

00:00:36.840 that's all coming up also uh bill o'reilly and um ai week continues we have a a great great professor

00:00:47.800 of computer science it's won the highest awards in machine learning and ai he has a happier version

00:00:55.340 of ai but still a warning especially to conservatives he says you're way behind that's coming up all on

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00:02:22.420 all right i want to bring in uh i want to bring in uh jason betrill who is uh with me uh and is going

00:02:33.860 to explain exactly what is going on with this one report from one source so i say that uh clearly at

00:02:44.860 the beginning there's problems with this reporting because it is one source and i wouldn't take that

00:02:51.580 from the new york times as gospel uh so let's remember one source but it's pretty damning it has

00:03:00.400 a ton of facts tell me the story jason on what happened and where this report's coming from

00:03:06.900 i struggle to even really describe how to even tell the story because it's it sounds like are

00:03:11.600 you familiar with the term fan fiction yes it's like that's what it's like off the internet like

00:03:15.640 what would really happen if anik and skywalker didn't become darth vader this is the story right

00:03:20.800 that's what it sounds like right but i mean mike lee is exactly right if this is true this is an act

00:03:25.800 of war and what they're alleging is that the cia the biden administration came up with the plan

00:03:34.740 to eliminate the nordstrom 2 pipeline to blow it up and we all remember i think i even came on this

00:03:41.320 program and said i think you asked me it was like do you think this was us and i'd be like and then i

00:03:45.420 was like well no we would never risk something like a direct attack on a russian asset right never

00:03:51.720 risk it here's the thing i think it was germany or sweden somebody just released a report that showed

00:03:56.740 russia didn't do it yeah and how many countries have the ability to do something like this this was

00:04:04.000 not an easy uh hit not an easy hit and not even an easy hit for for americans i mean it would take a

00:04:11.340 long time i mean it would take very specific assets like you know seal team six or something like that

00:04:17.500 but the article goes into that they couldn't use a seal team six or anyone in jsoc's joint special

00:04:23.400 operation command because they'd have to go through congress now this is a big part of the story if true

00:04:28.420 they use uh some obscure navy divers that are not part of jsoc so then the cia could use them in a joint

00:04:35.920 intelligence operation not a military operation an intelligence operation that would allow them to keep

00:04:43.380 this quiet from congress now think about that like mike lee said this would be an act of war if we did

00:04:49.140 it and they found out but we didn't inform congress about it if true so there is multiple layers to this

00:04:56.320 even right off the bat who is this written by this is written by a guy named seymour hirsch uh he wrote

00:05:02.080 for the i think new york times he was a guy who got the um the um pulitzer for exposing the malay

00:05:11.340 yep vietnam so and he has done many you know exposés but they generally kind of lean against america do

00:05:22.300 they not yeah there was the one in uh well just the biggest the bigger one would be osama bin laden

00:05:27.680 questioning you know how all of that went down he even actually questioned osama bin laden's

00:05:31.920 culpability in 9-11 so it almost okay this is what you kind of see with journalists nowadays

00:05:36.760 especially you know that you we saw this in the russiagate stuff it's almost like they got on this

00:05:41.320 woodward and bernstein high yeah and they all want to top each other off of it so like where do you go

00:05:46.480 after topping something like you know woodward and bernstein they're like getting more and more

00:05:51.040 fantastical and always trying to one up well but not necessarily i mean this this story

00:05:56.820 is why you need true a credible press why you need journalistic standards and not activists

00:06:05.900 because we are dealing with a story now that if it is true the american people wouldn't have gone for

00:06:16.160 this but it's the american people if true that will pay the price it will be our sons and daughters

00:06:23.780 fighting a war with russia and probably half of the world because of something our out of control

00:06:32.080 deep state did yeah and we wouldn't have been for it now how do we prove it who do you believe

00:06:41.000 do you believe the investigators with congress do you believe the investigators from the new york times

00:06:48.780 who do you believe there's one source on this which i'd love to have because you were former

00:06:56.660 military intel so i would love to have your thought on this something this large because the story is

00:07:04.720 pages and pages and pages and has great detail in it yeah um it it's all coming from one source

00:07:13.580 what are the odds that something this secret this complex had more than a few maybe five maybe five

00:07:24.520 key holders that could unlock all of the information so let me just from my intel perspective and my real

00:07:30.900 world experience is afghanistan i was one of the first ground troops conventional into afghanistan

00:07:35.120 after 9-11 so i was part of the planning phase just on my small level my my unit i didn't know

00:07:42.120 that certain things that were going on in northern afghanistan knew a lot of stuff in south when we

00:07:46.600 got on the ground i didn't even know that there was um special forces in certain areas that had been

00:07:52.840 there for a while um that was not my need to know didn't even know that correct uh and that was right

00:07:58.800 before a war so just that perspective there's no way in my mind that a mid or lower level say that

00:08:07.880 carefully person would have operational knowledge in that detail you would need cabinet level uh or

00:08:17.580 director level access now it's interesting because the way you're phrasing this and you're being very

00:08:24.560 very accurate uh on things a cabinet level or director level might have this information why would

00:08:34.860 you bring up director level information on something this sensitive and i mean director level this was

00:08:43.000 done by the cia okay so at least in this report done by the cia so it would mean what like the director

00:08:52.780 of the cia why would he rat himself out i mean that's a really good question unless he was doing his

00:09:01.300 duty and did not believe in what they were doing uh is there any example of a director level spilling

00:09:08.880 their guts on something like this deep throat hmm what was it oh that's right that was the director of

00:09:17.320 the fbi right which we found out years was it decades oh decades yeah decades later decades later but

00:09:24.660 then we were always like there's no way like how was how was he getting all this information that's like

00:09:29.160 how the heck that was a big part of it who is your source never would have believed in my wildest dreams

00:09:34.240 that it was a direct the director of the fbi never and that's like like this like will we decades later

00:09:41.420 say how the heck did this guy get his information we find out was the director of the cia if it's true

00:09:46.300 if it's true now how where do you go from here where do we go from here because

00:09:52.140 no western ally is going to verify this no no western i mean even if it is true and they hate

00:10:02.000 the fact that it's true they know if we say oh you know what i think it was the united states

00:10:09.300 this is an act of war yeah and russia has the the righteous stance in the world to take us down

00:10:19.900 or attempt to take us down take us to war that is an act of war so what what what does this mean

00:10:29.280 how do we ever find out anything russia has actually responded and they've said that because of these new

00:10:36.280 air quote facts uh that the white house needs to respond to this or to answer of course the white

00:10:41.700 house the state department and the cia have all been asked and they've all categorically denied it but

00:10:46.600 the article was so specific to answer your question in certain ways that you know uh in time in the

00:10:53.280 time frames that they pulled this off for instance the article goes into there was a a big naval exercise

00:10:59.060 that they used as cover to send in these divers um and that exercise did happen that exercise did

00:11:05.480 happen he even puts a link into their specific excuse about having using divers to uh show off the

00:11:13.420 capabilities of their mind clearing uh capabilities um but it's it's i mean you know even satan uses

00:11:21.200 some truth and then mixes it with with falsehood right so i mean you know that doesn't prove anything

00:11:28.760 right right but um so there's that which maybe they can i don't know use some kind of maybe they

00:11:34.040 were surveilling the areas maybe they could look at something i don't know but then he also goes in

00:11:37.920 very specifically the type of mind they use to get around the russian detection uh capabilities

00:11:43.260 they go into that then they go into and this is this kind of seemed weird about how they were going

00:11:48.180 to detonate like 72 hours or 48 hours after this exercise right and then all of a sudden they had

00:11:54.220 this after afterthought of oh maybe that seems kind of suspicious maybe we shouldn't just have it on a

00:11:59.360 time detonation a couple of days after the exercise that doesn't that doesn't jive with no it doesn't

00:12:04.200 so then they were like oh let's send in this like buoy that like has this high-tech ping that can you

00:12:09.960 know we'll drop it from a plane and it'll set off these uh charges that also seems odd to me that also

00:12:15.920 seems something that the russians might be able to verify so i i mean i wouldn't be surprised right now

00:12:21.500 if there are russian surveillance planes flying over the area gathering intel possibly you know attempting to

00:12:29.260 go and look take a second look i don't i definitely don't think we've heard the last of this so i'm

00:12:34.540 sure they're going to try and verify it if they can but they're russians really so even if they don't

00:12:39.580 they're probably just going to say yeah they did it anyway right i mean i would i would too i would

00:12:44.880 and quite honestly i'm not sure we didn't do it i'm not either yeah which is wild i would never

00:12:50.580 would have thought of this you know 20 years ago i would have said absolutely not no way no way

00:12:56.880 um but if you hit me today if 9-11 happened and we heard you know bush and clinton and we had

00:13:06.420 exactly what happened with sandy burger um at the national archives where he's smuggling documents out

00:13:13.280 about bush and clinton um and anything related to uh osama bin laden prior to the bombing

00:13:20.980 i i i i i would deeply question our government we we have come a long way on finding out how bad

00:13:30.760 our government can be and has been in the past the problem with this is is you are going to pay the

00:13:38.380 price if this happened or if russia decides to go with it you your son your daughter you're going to

00:13:48.000 pay the price and that's what's so infuriating because if it is true the american people should

00:13:56.200 demand that these people whoever was involved whoever had this decision uh is in prison and punished

00:14:04.940 and you know what i would be fine i don't care who it is i don't let me just say this and it wasn't

00:14:10.360 it couldn't have been because he wasn't in office but to show you how passionate even if it was the

00:14:16.940 former president go ahead send him over to russia let him let him face a trial over in russia i'm sorry

00:14:24.460 but you do something like this and you don't inform congress i mean this is this is the tweet from mike

00:14:31.980 lee last night i'm troubled that i can't immediately rule this suggestion that the u.s blew up the nordstream

00:14:40.860 out he can't rule it out i checked with a bunch of senate colleagues among those i've asked none

00:14:49.300 were ever briefed on this if it turns out to be true we've got a huge problem yeah we do yeah we do

00:14:57.060 this is the best of the glenbeck program we want to welcome uh our uh our guests from the university

00:15:06.720 of washington computer science uh he is uh a professor there and also the author of a book

00:15:13.400 came out a few years ago the master algorithm his name is pedro domingos pedro how are you sir

00:15:19.800 great how are you i'm very good very good uh you know i was a little nervous when i heard university

00:15:25.380 of washington i'm like okay well i don't think he'll even come on but i i welcome you here uh we have

00:15:32.480 had a heck of a time uh trying to get people to talk about ai because uh sometimes they're very very

00:15:41.080 left and they don't want to be on the program and i'm like well this is a human issue this is not

00:15:48.000 something that the right should be educated or the left should be educated on the right shouldn't be

00:15:52.800 um and especially with what we are facing do you agree that this is one of the greatest things

00:16:01.220 and possibly one of the worst things oh yes i very much agree and and also part of the problem is

00:16:08.700 that the left is on top of it i don't think the right has quite woken up yet but it needs to

00:16:12.900 so you i've heard you describe this as uh the greatest authoritarian tool ever invented

00:16:21.860 that's correct so ai is potentially the greatest tool of totalitarianism that has ever been invented

00:16:31.760 ai is a very powerful technology it can be used for good or bad but in particular if you're a dictator

00:16:37.780 ai is the dream come true ai will do everything you want it will surveil everybody 24 by 7 you will

00:16:45.000 never get tired it will never question you it'll keep records it will you know it's it's um it's scary

00:16:51.800 it's total and yes uh i mean ai can do things that no dictator would even in their dreams think of

00:17:00.640 50 years ago and unfortunately in a country like china it's already happening i mean and you know

00:17:07.240 yeah what's amazing is if you know history back in world war ii ibm with the punch cards they were

00:17:15.880 germans were doing their census with these punch cards and it was the punch cards that uh allowed

00:17:23.220 the germans to find the jews they could just sort everybody by their race etc etc and that greatly

00:17:30.000 helped them i think if you had technology in the hands of somebody like hitler or mao

00:17:35.100 you wouldn't have a jew left on the planet today would you agree with that it's it's it's that

00:17:42.540 uh all seeing all knowing and in the wrong hands would could annihilate and carry out genocide unlike

00:17:52.020 anything we've ever seen it is but on the other hand the jews would be using the technology as well

00:17:57.920 in fact if you look at what's happened in hong kong for example the protesters there actually got

00:18:02.700 very savvy about using tech to counteract the chinese tech so i don't know who would win out in

00:18:08.060 the end i think you know i wouldn't give up the jews just like that but the point is if they didn't

00:18:13.000 use tech and the and the nazis use tech they would be toast okay so there was so much to talk to you

00:18:20.740 about because you're into machine learning which um um if you can explain break it down to a you know

00:18:28.760 dummy like me what machine learning is and why we should care about it

00:18:32.880 so ai is getting computers to do the things that only humans traditionally can do like solving

00:18:39.620 problems and reasoning and seeing and talking machine learning in particular is getting computers

00:18:44.840 to learn the same way children and grown-ups do so it's a very powerful thing is the computer instead

00:18:51.480 of having to be programmed you can actually learn just by imitating people by looking at data you can

00:18:57.240 learn to drive a car by watching videos of people driving cars you can learn to play chess by

00:19:02.520 playing against itself and so on and machine learning is at the root of all these things that ai is

00:19:08.280 doing today and does it have a way to recognize ow don't touch the stove stove is hot that i mean

00:19:18.380 that's an important part of learning in fact this is a part of learning called reinforcement learning

00:19:25.360 and the term actually comes from psychology which is when you touch the stove and burn yourself you

00:19:30.520 learn to not do it again and we have algorithms in machine learning to do essentially the same thing

00:19:34.920 okay so um when you look at um the the principles of machine learning and we have to understand that

00:19:47.760 the algorithm we have an algorithm that we use and machines are developing this algorithm and it the

00:19:56.520 tremendous side of of this is just making your life really really easy and even all the way down to

00:20:05.860 helping you find the perfect spouse and i mean really perfect spouse right well machine learning can do

00:20:13.040 a lot of different things for you uh think of all the things that we learn to do if the computer can

00:20:18.200 learn to do them for you not only can it make your life a lot easier by taking away a lot of the routine

00:20:23.600 stuff you can now do things to an extent and in an amount that you couldn't before if you have a

00:20:29.440 project that you pay a few people to work on you could potentially have not just a few ais working on

00:20:34.500 it but a million or a billion so you know whatever it is that you want to do machine learning you can

00:20:40.440 think of it it's like an intelligence multiplier you now have a thousand or a million times more

00:20:45.880 intelligence at your disposal but it's not but it's not just um uh intelligence i mean talk to me about

00:20:54.300 the digital twin theory that on dating for instance um you know it it will date your digital twin that

00:21:03.200 knows you better than you know you will go out and you know basically go on digital dates with

00:21:11.660 somebody else's digital twin and it could do that you know a billion times and find somebody that you

00:21:18.520 would have never found yes that's a great example so these days you can in principle date you know all

00:21:25.940 sorts of different people but you don't have time to date them in real life and then usually waste a lot

00:21:30.800 of your time just on dates maybe that don't really pan out and what machine learning increasingly is going

00:21:36.520 to let you do is there's a model of you really a digital version of you that can go on simulated dates

00:21:43.840 with this the models of other people and do this you know an arbitrary number of times and then what

00:21:50.460 the system does it says look here are the top 10 people that i dated as as your you know avatar as they

00:21:57.620 called and you know and do you want to date these in real life now and then you can do that and then you

00:22:02.700 give it some feedback and that time next time maybe it finds you even better people so anytime you have

00:22:08.400 to make choices whether it's just you know on the web or listening to something on the radio machine

00:22:13.460 learning already helps you but this can go as far as helping you choose a major choose a job choose a

00:22:19.020 company to work for and even choose a mate for life and i mean this is not a theoretical possibility

00:22:24.180 there are already children today who wouldn't have been born if not for the ai that much that they're

00:22:30.240 that matched up their parents online it wasn't with a simulation yet it was by looking at

00:22:34.480 questionnaires and date and whatnot but this is where things are headed right and so i i just want to set

00:22:40.620 up some of the good things that could happen um tell me the good things that will happen with eye

00:22:47.420 tracking you know the the apple has their three thousand dollar um uh um virtual reality um glasses coming out

00:22:58.600 um and augmented reality and it has a camera pointed directly at your eyes too and it's tracking

00:23:05.500 and what will that information do on the positive side it will do a lot of things because your eyes

00:23:13.980 you think of them as input it's how you see things but they're also output if you're looking at my eyes

00:23:19.200 while i'm talking you can tell all sorts of things about me and in particular what i'm interested in

00:23:24.560 where i'm going and and in particularly in vr as i move my eyes the scene needs to change as i move

00:23:30.440 them and and you need ai you need computer vision to do that so if you think about the way people

00:23:35.340 interact with computers you know it's in the beginning it was by typing and now there's a mouse

00:23:39.800 and so on but really ultimately you'd like to interact them as just to interact with the real world

00:23:44.660 and and and eye tracking will let you do that so let me take it again back to dating but if i'm tracking

00:23:51.260 your eye i know when you look at a picture what you look at first and then what you look at second

00:23:59.160 and third um and if i get enough pictures in front of you i pretty much know the woman that you're

00:24:07.040 attracted to i i know what you like and what you don't like correct yes indeed and even even a finer

00:24:14.420 detail right you you can tell exactly what my path was from somebody's nose to their left eye to their

00:24:20.520 right eye to whatever so think about knowing what somebody's interested in that level of detail

00:24:25.660 and this is what we're heading towards and what would that tell you from if you're going from one

00:24:30.380 eye to the other to the nose what how why is that important well i'm just giving that as an example you

00:24:36.460 know people have actually done this and and you know your eyes are typically what you look at most

00:24:41.160 when you're looking at someone uh you know or or your or the mouth when they're speaking and and so on

00:24:46.340 and so forth and you can look at for example how how people look at different pictures and what parts

00:24:51.960 they focus on versus what parts they focus on so for example you could tell what parts of somebody's

00:24:56.760 body somebody's looking at right right for better or worse so tell me um tell me uh there is so much

00:25:04.280 information on each of us and it used to be well this is metadata so we we don't we we don't know who

00:25:11.560 anybody is but ai can now break down that metadata and assign it to individuals right one of the things

00:25:21.200 that ai is doing is it's it's it's finding ways to make sense of all of the data that is out at all

00:25:30.640 times correct yes in the early days of the internet there was this joke that on the internet no one knows

00:25:36.920 you're a dog because it was so anonymous and it's ironic because it's precisely the opposite this is

00:25:42.100 on the internet in some ways the the companies that you're interacting you know you're better than

00:25:46.040 anybody else because they can see everything that you've clicked on and everything that you've done

00:25:50.360 now in some ways that's a good thing because they're using that to figure out what you prefer

00:25:54.740 right what products you want to buy what you know things you want to listen to etc etc

00:26:00.320 so this personalization is very important because in a world of infinite choice

00:26:04.620 without personalization you know you're basically helpless on the other hand of course it'll it

00:26:09.720 also makes it possible to potentially manipulate you repress you who knows what so we are uh we're

00:26:16.340 talking to pedro domingos he is a uh professor computer science professor at university of

00:26:21.300 washington he's also the author of the master algorithm um which is is that kind of like the grand

00:26:28.580 unifying theory but just of algorithms that's exactly the idea is that there are different

00:26:36.180 uh algorithms to do machine learning that solve different problems but to get to human level ai we

00:26:43.260 need to solve all of them at the same time and the goal is to have a single algorithm that combines

00:26:48.180 them all and there's some way that for example in physics there's a theory of all the forces and

00:26:52.500 and in biology there's a theory of our cells work and so on do you believe in the singularity

00:26:59.800 meaning a the merging of man and machine that that's inevitable and b the singularity of consciousness

00:27:10.100 of uh computers i believe in the singularity in the sense that the humans and machines will merge in

00:27:19.240 fact we're already merging the way things get done is an ever more intricate miss miss mix of humans

00:27:25.280 and and computers but i don't think the singularity will happen in the sense that ray kurzweil has

00:27:31.700 described where intelligence in the universe just goes to infinity that's what a singularity is something

00:27:37.160 going to infinity i think you know there are physical limits on what intelligence can be and and how it

00:27:43.600 works and also you know there's this notion that in the singularity people just don't understand the ai at

00:27:48.900 all anymore and you know these days we have technology that in many ways we don't understand

00:27:54.140 but i don't think you'll ever be the case that we completely don't understand it and completely

00:27:58.440 bypasses it and most important the idea in the singularity is that like now humans have lost

00:28:03.700 control right it's the ais that run the world and bye bye humans and i think we can stay and probably

00:28:09.940 should stay in control forever and ai can be very powerful but still be under our control is actually

00:28:16.720 something that people often don't understand is just because we make the ai very smart doesn't

00:28:21.300 necessarily mean that it's going to take over unless we let it unless we let it uh and exactly

00:28:27.800 unless we let it or worse unless we let people you know like the bad guys are trying to control ai

00:28:32.480 correct you got to control ourselves i mean i that's that's one of the things i've said this for

00:28:37.040 years and years and years don't fear ai fear the people who are writing the programs for ai watch

00:28:45.080 those people because those who control it can use it for their own devices but ai is neither bad nor

00:28:53.680 good it's whose hands is it in control of exactly i mean an ai is like a car right you know the bank

00:29:01.940 robbers can use a car that's not a reason to not have cars or to you know forbid highways it's a

00:29:07.120 reason for the police to have faster cars than the bank robbers do and it's the same thing with ai

00:29:11.600 it can use for good or bad and at the end of the day you know what matters is to use it so everybody

00:29:16.880 needs to learn how to use ai so that they use it in their interest so there's not the government

00:29:22.180 using ai or companies using ai to you know make decisions for them or even worse dictate what they do

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00:30:09.180 but you will also get my show prep every day you'll get about 60 to 80 stories sometimes that i think are

00:30:16.680 important but really only about 15 of them will make it on the air but they're all worth reading uh and you

00:30:24.060 can find that and get that free at glenbeck.com last night i got a text from mike lee it said uh

00:30:30.960 check my twitter feed so i did if false slander if true war and it was the story about how we may have

00:30:40.360 blown up the the nordstream pipeline i wrote to him right before i came on the air uh today and i said

00:30:47.780 you know so what do i tell the people and and he said i would tell your audience we don't know whether

00:30:54.220 or not this is true um loan author writing on substack relying on a single store source isn't good but

00:31:02.120 it's we we have no confidence either way is it true i don't know but if it's true it's a real

00:31:11.780 problem a huge quoting huge problem of epic proportions plus who who else might have done

00:31:17.760 this who else had the capacity mike will be joining me tomorrow to uh flesh that out but i wanted to

00:31:24.000 get bill o'reilly on to see if he has an initial take because i think this is all about the loss

00:31:29.600 of the press and credibility we don't know who to believe and what to believe bill welcome

00:31:36.920 back i'm sending you some free stuff before we get into this on uh team normal are you on team

00:31:46.080 normal i don't i don't know what team normal is if okay so if you're the head of team normal i think

00:31:51.360 you might want to read sending it to you anyway so it's team normal versus team crazy yeah yeah you

00:32:00.040 if you listen to uh governor huckabee sander's speech yeah so i'm on team normal i know that's been

00:32:06.840 disputed yes yes but on billoreilly.com we got the hats and the shirts we got bumper stickers okay

00:32:13.180 and if you want to be on team normal all right and i think you do beck i would like a team do you sell

00:32:19.560 the team crazy uh we know we don't want to promote the team crazy well i you know i thought i could

00:32:25.400 just wear it once in a while as a dad around the house you know what i mean all right now seymour

00:32:32.080 hershey who wrote this story on substack about the pipeline is a loon okay lost his mind about i

00:32:38.840 don't know 30 years ago in my opinion my humble opinion it's a uh subjective analysis of mr hershey

00:32:45.100 did good work in vietnam yep um but after that it was just crazy time yeah he he has come up with a

00:32:51.960 lot of things um and not usually verifiable no never borne out yeah he loves he loves this

00:32:59.820 uh knowing the biden administration the way i do i think it's almost impossible

00:33:06.500 that joe biden would uh order uh a an attack on the nordstrom pipeline he just doesn't have

00:33:17.500 that kind of grit and that could start a world war with nooks so i would say

00:33:26.420 to senator lee with respect i don't believe the story as it stands well he said he in all fairness

00:33:36.380 that's what he said yeah i don't believe it but i can't dismiss it either well i can't dismiss

00:33:42.940 martians from venus i mean you know they would be what are they tourists on venus why would martians

00:33:50.100 be on venus conspiracy route all day long but i'm a fact-based guy correct and the only people

00:33:58.060 really watching is you're never going to get any reporting out of russia that's worth anything yes

00:34:02.700 you can't believe anything correct but the swedes olav and the swede right and and uh that group over

00:34:11.660 there would yeah they're watching it right so at this point i think this isn't really you know

00:34:20.200 something that americans should be concerned about um do you want to get into the state of the union

00:34:24.900 because i have one thing that everybody missed back uh yeah i do but i want to take this this

00:34:30.120 conversation one step further sure the problem with this story bill is is we have been lied to so

00:34:38.540 many times by our administration by our media that i find myself in a position to where i can't make a

00:34:48.300 call on a few things like this i'm like i don't think we did that but if we did do that it'd be really

00:34:55.760 horrible but i don't think we could ever prove it because no one is a journalist anymore nobody

00:35:02.720 actually even if you were a journalist i am a journalist and i can scuba dive if you want to

00:35:10.900 put me in a little bell right oh i'd love to put you in a little bell i know you yeah yeah jealous

00:35:16.720 all right um anyway all right but it's impossible you just can't get to that kind of a story

00:35:24.580 so do you do you believe we'll ever find out who blew it up because somebody did

00:35:31.640 i you know look i don't know whether that is a physiological fact that somebody did you're you're

00:35:39.360 way under the water you're got all kinds of combustibles going through the pipeline certainly

00:35:46.080 it could have been uh some kind of uh malfunction so i don't think i would go with sabotage 100 at this

00:35:54.480 point i think the swedes and elsa yeah and her sister you know that her sister were there

00:36:00.080 yeah yeah they i believe they investigated it was it was sabotage okay so tell me what we missed on

00:36:07.620 the state of the union okay and and the guy in the wall street journal just ripped off my analysis

00:36:13.640 henninger is his name today so right after the the uh state of the union i did instant analysis right on

00:36:22.600 radio and television that's what i do for a living and i said look did you not pick up

00:36:27.780 the living wage comment and you're an expert at this at the end of it he's going everybody should

00:36:35.820 be in a union because everybody should have a living wage and everybody should have health care you know

00:36:40.260 the usual a living wage okay is a marxist tenet yes that means the government sets everybody's salary

00:36:49.520 nobody no corporation company is going to set a living wage so i brought it to cuomo last night i do a hit

00:36:55.680 with him on wednesday on news nation which you should watch just because you'll be entertained

00:37:00.740 back all right and i said to him hey did you catch this and of course he said no but then he started

00:37:09.100 to do the the little dance about well he meant minimum wage i said no he didn't he didn't there we

00:37:16.520 already have minimum wage laws he meant living wage so fast forward this morning open a wall street

00:37:23.280 journal which is worth reading on its editorials page sign and there's a manager going oh uh biden

00:37:30.160 has come out of the closet as a socialist and that's true but here's the real tragic part

00:37:36.740 biden doesn't even know what a living wage means he doesn't even know it's part of the carl

00:37:44.380 marx program he didn't write that speech he went over it 15 times because and he delivered it pretty

00:37:51.800 well you gotta be honest he had good energy he didn't look befuddled um he had good energy i

00:37:58.260 don't know what they had that delivery to what he usually does stammers around with that was light

00:38:03.140 years better but he didn't write any of it and unlike trump and obama they didn't write either

00:38:08.980 but they edited heavily both of them but i don't know whether by but i doubt that he's sitting there

00:38:16.320 with the sharpie editing i doubt it he pretty much does what he's told to do by susan rice

00:38:22.700 the new york times did a whole story on this and said he does edit and he's looking for because they

00:38:30.300 had several insiders of the white house insider and they said that he edits and he marks it up

00:38:37.600 where he needs to pause and he looks for because he has a strong rule no acronyms and words that he

00:38:45.300 thinks he might stutter he takes those out uh jill biden does not not him i'm not listen whenever you

00:38:53.380 see anonymous sources new york times forget it no forget it no i mean yeah they want to make them

00:39:02.020 look good so they oh an insider told me okay i i just can't even imagine him with his concentration

00:39:09.920 span being 18 seconds all right sitting there with an hour and 12 minute speech going over it line by

00:39:18.820 line now what he does do is read the teleprompter and he reads it and he reads it and he reads it

00:39:23.980 and they have built in in the teleprompter pause right stop right smile grimace um bill let me uh

00:39:37.440 let me ask you he ad-libbed a few things that apparently were not in the speech and one of those

00:39:42.420 was his angry angry response about who wants to be president z in china nobody and his he goes from

00:39:52.720 like okay to screaming flaming mad in an instant that sounds like me

00:40:01.600 well look i'm not going to analyze his emotional capabilities i mean you've all see he taught

00:40:13.820 called some reporter a dog pony soldier or something i mean it's just incoherent gibberish

00:40:19.820 um and so i don't even bother with that what really really disturbs me and this is not in the

00:40:27.500 forefront of the american people's mind they're calling him a liar and they always a liar he says

00:40:32.980 he's delusional beck oh he he lives in a world of delusion he thinks he's doing a good job with the

00:40:42.320 economy he believes that he is a deficit cost cutter he believes this stuff okay and it's so far from

00:40:51.800 reality but we all know older people who you go in and then they're there they are and it's the same

00:40:59.820 syndrome and run for office again this man is going downhill faster than lindsey von do you think

00:41:08.240 this is going to get better with him no i mean no i'm just sitting there going this country if this

00:41:16.800 man wins another four-year term this country is going to be damaged beyond repair we can repair it now

00:41:27.120 i have about 70 seconds i have to ask you about the spat between donald trump and and uh ron

00:41:34.960 desantis what what is trump doing stop with this you know i agree 100 um i agree it's it's a terrible

00:41:45.480 tactic he doesn't need he doesn't he doesn't if he would yeah if he would just but it's yeah it's all

00:41:53.680 about discipline with him you know that i know i know i know it's emotion and discipline he's gonna

00:41:59.760 have a tough time you know getting that nomination unless he changes course fairly quickly bill o'reilly

00:42:06.500 from bill o'reilly.com make sure you watch his no spin zone every night on bill o'reilly.com

00:42:11.920 uh he's also got uh products and his latest book also available online at bill o'reilly.com bill

00:42:18.780 thanks talk to you again all right look for that gear man i want to see you wearing that hat

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