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Glenn Beck and Peter Schweitzer are joined by John Solomon to discuss the latest in the Ukraine scandal, including new information about Nancy Pelosi's son being involved in Ukraine, and an update on the Yazidis in Syria who are being attacked by ISIS.
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Boy, podcast today is fantastic. So much to talk about. We start with new information about Nancy
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Pelosi's son being involved in Ukraine. We also have an update on what's happening with these
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Christians and the Yazidis in Syria that are being bombed and killed. One family that the Nazarene
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Fund worked to save from ISIS. Their house was bombed yesterday. The whole family almost died.
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We'll give you that. But the money today is on two interviews. One, Peter Schweitzer. Peter is
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being trashed by Joe Biden in a letter to the New York Times where he says, New York Times,
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you're becoming fake news and conspiracy theorists because of an article that Peter Schweitzer wrote
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an opinion piece yesterday. We have him on. Also, John Solomon, the guy who knows everything about
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the Ukraine scandal. I had, I think, 16 really important questions for him that I wanted cleared
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up. And we raced through it to get those answers. And there were bombshells that he dropped. You don't
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want to miss this episode. Critical John Solomon, Peter Schweitzer. And we begin with Nancy Pelosi's
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son in Ukraine. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Ukrainian MP Andrei Dyrkan revealed yesterday that former Vice President Joe Biden received
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$900,000 from the Burisma Group for lobbying activities, citing materials related to an
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investigation. Now, before you get excited, I want you to know that we have not personally
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translated the documents. There are several documents. We have only one of them. And it's all
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in Ukrainian. We are having it translated during the show today, which is our first opportunity
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to have it translated. I am reporting on someone else's information. We have not confirmed this yet.
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This is Ukraine's Vorkanova Rada member, who is citing the investigation materials.
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He has publicized the documents, which he said describe the mechanism of getting money to Biden
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senior at a press conference at Interfact Ukraine's press center in Kiev on Wednesday. This was the
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transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe personally,
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to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to a U.S.-based
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company, Rosemont Seneca Partners, which, according to open sources, in particular the New York Times,
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is affiliated with Joe Biden. Well, it's his son, Biden. The payment reference was payment for
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consultive services. Durak also publicized sums of money transferred to Burisma Group representatives,
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including Joe Biden's son. According to the document, Burisma paid no less than $16.5 million.
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to Devon Archer and Hunter Biden, who joined as a board of directors in 2014.
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Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue
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of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases to the
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activity of a former Ukrainian ecology minister, who is the founder and owner of the Burisma Group.
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Biden's fifth visit to Kiev on December 7th, a date which will still live in infamy,
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was devoted to making a decision on the resignation of the prosecutor general, Victor Shokin,
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over the case of Zalewski and Burisma. Loan guarantees worth more than $1 billion that the United States
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was to give Ukraine was to give Ukraine was the point of pressure. Biden himself admitted exerting
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pressure in his speech. According to Interfax, that is the group in the journalistic group in Ukraine,
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the timeline of events proves that the U.S. linked the Zelensky case to the loan guarantees. We know
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this. After the decree dismissing Shokin was published on April 3rd, the governments of the United States
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in Ukraine signed a loan guarantee worth $1 billion. In this case, there are facts that should be
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subject to investigation, he said. The agency has powers to investigate them. The U.S. Department of
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Justice, if the Ukrainian prosecutor general signs documents and sends them to the U.S. Department of
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Justice without any request, he will accomplish his mission. Considering international corruption in
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public is a way out for President Zelensky, I am certain that he is not involved in international
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corruption. The problem with this story is, is we don't know who to trust. Because everybody,
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everybody has lost credibility in Ukraine. And everyone in the entire country.
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Well, no, there's... I'm serious. It just seems like every time you bring up anything,
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there's always going to be a corruption allegation because it seems like everyone in the country has
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committed some sort of corruption crime. Well, there is Victor. You remember Victor. He's the guy
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with the dog. Oh, yeah. Cute dog. Cute dog. The dog committed a corruption crime. Yes, but not Victor.
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But Victor. But Victor's clean, we think. No, here's the thing. Let's just change countries here for a
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second and put it in our part of the world. The Ukraine is a very small country in the grand scheme
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of things. Okay. It doesn't have a large GDP. In fact, look at their GDP and see if you can compare
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it to states. See what state Ukraine is like. So it's a small place. Yeah, it's medium. I would say
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it's medium, right? I mean... Texas is bigger. California is bigger. New York will be bigger.
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Florida probably will be bigger. I mean, it's a state. Yeah, obviously part of the Soviet Union.
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Right. For a very long time. Yeah. It's where you can go to... If you want to go see the fallout
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of a nuclear disaster... I want to go. I really want to go. I do too. That's the place to go.
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Right. In Ukraine. Let's see. Ukraine. So if we could compare it to a country in our hemisphere,
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imagine if the Republicans all of a sudden had their family members... By the way, have you heard
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the latest on Nancy Pelosi's son? He was also now the... I think he was the COO of a oil company
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in Ukraine. So weird. You know, I don't think of Ukraine as a... as Disneyland, where you send
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your children. But everyone in the Democratic Party seems to be sending their children over
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there. Okay, so imagine... I think of it a place where a hostile sequel would occur.
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Right. And instead, people just keep sending their kids over there. Right. So if a bunch of
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Republicans sent their families down to, let's say, Brazil, and they were all running, you know,
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I don't know, swimwear stuff in Brazil, we wouldn't necessarily think anything. However,
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if the Republicans all sent their kids and their... the DNC set up shop there, and they were working
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through the embassy, and all these things were going, and the country was Colombia, we might
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all say, you know, George Bush's kids set up a farm there. I'm wondering what they're
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farming in Colombia. I wonder what kind of leaves they're picking down there. I wonder if this
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is a... I wonder if this is a front for drug lords. I wonder if they're getting kickbacks from
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many drug lords, and they're living high off the hog in Colombia. Wouldn't we be asking those
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questions? This is as corrupt as Colombia. And all of our Democratic friends seem to have
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some pretty great deals. Now, the latest on Pelosi is that her son, and there's videotapes showing it
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where he's proudly talking about his company. It appears as though he was made COO of this company,
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but this company apparently was started by two criminals that couldn't own a company in Ukraine.
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We're no longer allowed. They were so corrupt. They were no longer allowed to have a business.
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And so Nancy Pelosi's son appears to have been kind of a beard for this company.
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Now, you would think again that if you were going to send your kids over there, you would warn your
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kids, hey, kids, this is really corrupt. I mean, you could easily fall into those Colombian drug
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lords. So if you go to Colombia, don't get in bed with drug lords. But both Joe Biden,
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John Kerry, and a third now, Nancy Pelosi, sent their kids over there, and they all happen to fall in
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a play with drug lords. Darn it. They're all in bed with oligarchs and criminals.
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Hmm. It's just so weird. I mean, you think really, really weird. Why would you? Why would you really
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weird go there? It doesn't seem like there's like tons of direct flights. It just doesn't seem like a place
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you just go to. Yeah. People don't even know if it's Kiev or Kiev. They can't even figure it out.
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Right. They keep sending people there. Right. They're sending people there. By the way, this is
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the place that Russia was trying to take back. And Russia had troops shooting people in the main
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square. Just at the same time, everybody's like, hey, kids, why don't you go start a business in
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Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. So there's 233 countries or states in the world. Ukraine,
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33rd in population, 44 million people. How many? What's the GDP? GDP. You look that up. Give
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me one minute. I'll come right back. We'll look at the GDP. This is not a significant country. I mean,
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it plays a role because of its former Soviet status. But it's not like, why did they send so much over
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there? And I'm not talking about, you know, should we defend them or help them? I mean,
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they sent their Obama sent his personal attorney over there. Hillary Clinton sent her her personal
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strategist or chief strategist. Obama had his chief pollster. Bernie Sanders sent his chief pollster
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over there. Nancy Pelosi sent her son. Joe Biden sent his son. John Kerry sent his son.
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192 countries ranked by GDP. Ukraine at 132. Hello. And especially when you consider it's what,
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40, what did I say? 40, 33, 33 in population. Yeah. That's yeah. It doesn't seem like the
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monetary paradise you'd want. No, it's really not. It's really not. While you're sending your son off
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to war, the Congress, the Democrats seem to be sending their kids off to oligarchs.
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Hey, it's Glenn and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on
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your favorite podcasts. Peter Schweitzer. I'm trying to take you serious, Peter, but it's so hard.
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It was great to be out with you, Glenn. Thanks for having me. I guess we're conspiring in front of
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your audience. Oh yeah. No, let's just we're going to swear everybody to secrecy here. You did no matter
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what you hear in the next few minutes. You didn't hear us. We're not really talking to each other.
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Peter, let's, first of all, let me start with this. Last week in something completely outrageous,
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they started saying that you were ripping portions of your book right off of Wikipedia.
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And the, the charges were so crazy because they were saying, uh, what was the, what was the one
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example, Stu, that we were talking about just yesterday? They're talking about the mayor of
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Chicago who had a press conference when he sobbed and then they like take part of your sentence that
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also used the word sobbed. And they're like, well, he copied the word sobbed from Wikipedia. And it's
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like, no, that's actually a word other people use. Yeah. It was crazily weak.
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And, and the problem is guys that, um, you know, if we had used the word cried,
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I'm sure somebody else had described or published an article saying he cried.
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Right. Yeah. I mean, this is what's really happened is about two weeks ago, the New York
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Times had a news piece on this. Uh, the Biden campaign has, has avoided trying to deal with
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Ukraine and China. You've talked about it and reported on it extensively. I did in secret
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empires. Their strategy was to ignore it. Uh, the problem is, um, that, that it's really captured
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the interest of the American people. So they've gone on the attack and their approach is still
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not to deal with the evidence. It's to attack the messenger. So, uh, they have tried these
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scurrilous attacks. Um, the bottom line is they don't work. Um, people are interested in this
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material. And as we've talked about before, Glenn, this is all follow the money. There's,
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there's no conspiracy we're alleging here. There's no theory here. We have the money. We have the trips
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on air force too. We have the, uh, Joe Biden policies. We have the Joe Biden favors. Now the people
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have to look at the material and decide one of two things, Glenn, this is all just a crazy
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coincidence, right? That, that Hunter got these deals that he didn't deserve. And that Joe Biden
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did what he did. It's all just a coincidence or, uh, there was corruption at the highest levels here.
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And I think most people that look at this, the vast majority of people say there's something amiss.
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So I, I agree with you. And I think the, um, I think the whole DNC is in panic right now.
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Yesterday it came out that, um, uh, Nancy Pelosi's son, uh, was hired as I think COO of this oil
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company over in, um, Ukraine. And you know why they went to Pelosi's family? Cause she loves oil
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companies, just loves them. Um, but he was actually a beard for a company for two owners of this company
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that were, were, were, um, uh, known oligarchs, known, um, scam artists and criminals. They were
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not supposed to be able to open their own company. And so he was running it kind of as a beard.
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Well, I think she's panicked too. I think they're all panicking.
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No, you're, you're exactly right, Glenn. I mean, if you look, I was listening to you earlier and you
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were talking about the Clintons and you know, the foreign country that donated more to the Clinton
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Foundation than anybody else was Ukraine. Joe Biden's son gets this sweetheart oil deal in
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Ukraine. Nancy Pelosi's son is involved with this deal in Ukraine. Um, John Kerry's son.
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Well, and, and, and here's the, yeah, here's the thing, Glenn is so, you know, we're all used to
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seeing all these stories about how corrupt Ukraine is and it repels us. The problem is it has the
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opposite effect on our political elites because they see it as an opportunity to self-enrich.
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They see it as an opportunity for a quick payday in a way they could not get it in the United
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States. They could not get it in Japan or England because it wouldn't be tolerated. And this is the
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problem. China, the same way they're magnets for our political elite because they can do things
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and get away with things they can't in other parts of the world. And, and, you know, as I talked
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about in the New York times piece, this is a bipartisan problem. Um, but I got to tell you,
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and I think the evidence is clear, uh, nobody has done this more systematically than Joe Biden when
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he was vice president, his son had deals in China. He had deals in Ukraine. We know that in a money
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he was drawing cash from Hunter Biden, there was money coming from Kazakhstan. There was money from
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anonymous LLCs from Swiss bank accounts. Um, so there's a bigger, bigger story here. And what the
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Biden's want to do is attack me or attack the New York times, um, John Solomon. Yes. John Solomon.
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Absolutely. Excellent reporter. Excellent reporter. I deal with reporters from all kinds of mainstream
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media outlets and they all know John Solomon and trust John Solomon. Then how come they're allowing,
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um, even the New York times to smear John Solomon. John worked for the New York times. He worked for the
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Washington post. He worked for associated press. He has outed people on both sides of the aisle.
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He's won all kinds of awards. How come his colleagues aren't standing up and going, wait a
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minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. John Solomon is not that guy. Yeah, no, it's a great question.
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Look, I think that, uh, the New York times, um, there are all kinds of things going on there. Uh, I deal
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with some reporters there and they are top flight reporters. Uh, but there are problems with other
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reporters and with some of the editors in the, in the case of my piece that ran yesterday, this may
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surprise a lot of people, but I, it was actually solicited by the New York times. They came to me
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and said, would you write a piece relating to the secret empires book? You and I have talked about it
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many times, Glenn, would you write a piece in the New York times book talking about the Bidens, give
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another example from the other side and propose a solution. So they approached me and, you know,
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everything that we do is fact checked internally. But when you submit a piece like that to the New
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York times, they fact check it, it went through fact check. Everything was fine. So, you know,
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my experience is there are times reporters that are really trying to cover this stuff. There are
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other times reporters. It's like any news organization who are going to be more lazy or
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they're going to do somebody's bidding. Uh, and that's what I think you're seeing. And what the Biden
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letter from the campaign is intended to do is to try to basically push the management of the New
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York times, uh, to silence these people that want to cover this story. That's, that's clearly what
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their intention is. Not to mention intimidate other publications from allowing your work to be seen as
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well. Exactly. And I will say too, you, you mentioned you put some, they asked for someone from the other
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side, which you supplied, which was, uh, a person inside the Trump administration along with Mitch
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McConnell and his wife, uh, Elaine Chao. And so you, you, you went into this, you have even in the
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story they're complaining about, you went after both sides here. And your point being that this is
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not illegal and that's the thing that needs to change. Exactly. I mean, it was funny. So another
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one of the hit pieces against me was, uh, Jane Mayer of the New Yorker, um, which again has all this
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ridiculous stuff in it. But one of the things she, she puts in there is that, you know, Schweitzer writes
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this book, secret empires and really what he is, is just an opposition researcher. And I'm sitting
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there thinking, I'm thinking, man, I must be a really stupid one because I go after Republicans
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as well. So who actually am I doing opposition research on? And what I would say is I'm doing
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opposition research on corruption. And that tends to be establishment political figures from both
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sides of the aisle. Um, and, and you're exactly right. This is a problem that doesn't have a D or R
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after its name. Uh, it has human after this name, but it goes to the basic roots. You guys talk about
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this on the radio all the time. It goes to that basic part of the corruptible nature of man and
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power its ability to corrupt people. And that's what we're seeing here. And they don't want people
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discussing it. I can't believe that the, the Uber left is not joined this parade on Ukraine because
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this takes down the, the democratic, uh, uh, leadership, the, the guys who are in this
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institution forever. It takes apart the democratic national committee. It takes apart all of it.
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And I can't believe that they're not grabbing onto this saying, this is why you need to vote
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differently because these guys are corrupt. Why aren't they doing that?
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Uh, great question, Glenn. I remember in 2016, um, you know, when I did Clinton cash and you and
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I talked about it, uh, it got a lot of media attention, uh, New York times, et cetera, you
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know, Bernie Sanders was reluctant for some reason to, to, you know, criticize Hillary Clinton on this
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corruption. But if you followed his hardcore supporters on social media or on websites, they
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were all over this material because they get it. I think what you're seeing with a lot of the,
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um, candidates right now is they're jockeying. They're trying to figure out strategically what's
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going to benefit them the most. Whereas their basis supporters, if you're an Elizabeth Warren
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supporter or Bernie Sanders supporter, uh, a lot of them are true believers. Um, and, and I think
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they are outraged and they are starting to speak up about this. And I think the Biden approach of just
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saying, this is going to go away. If we just give it time is not true. I think the, the reporting
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continues, the momentum on reporting continues, um, and that's not going to go away. And he's
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going to have to address this. And the only way he's going to be able to address this, I think,
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is to lay out precisely what went on. Um, and he's just not going to do that. Uh, he's been in,
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in, you know, in a safe, uh, Senate seat for, you know, since 1972, then he was a vice president.
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He's not used to being held into account. He never really had a serious challenger in Delaware.
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Um, and so it's just running contrary to his nature to say, I've got to go out and be honest
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and address this. That's he hasn't had to do that in more than 40 years.
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So let me ask you about this. There's a, there is a new, um, uh, allegation that came out from
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Ukraine yesterday, um, by a guy named Andrei Durkak. He is a Ukrainian MP. And he said that
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he has documents and we're having one of these documents, the only one that's been released
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translated. Even the, the, even the press that has printed these documents has not translated
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for some reason. We have it in translation. I hope to have it by the end of the show,
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but I think it's going to be this afternoon before we get it. Um, but he says these documents show
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that Joe Biden, not only his son got a piece of $16.5 million, um, but Joe Biden himself was paid
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$900,000 for his, his work for Burisma on behalf of Burisma. Have you ever heard that he got paid
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directly? I mean, this is hard to believe because that's, I mean, that, that's, that is illegal.
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It is. And, and I think it would be, you know, extremely reckless. I mean, look, Glenn, this is
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the reason I think that, that president Trump was actually, it was very appropriate for him to say
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the U S department of justice should work with Ukrainians to investigate this. The challenge
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in Ukraine is. Who do you trust? Yes. It's extremely corrupt. I don't really know this
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political figure. I don't know if those documents are accurate. I think exactly the way that you laid
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it out is perfect. You've got to be kind of skeptical and say, this is hard to believe,
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but this is why you need people over there. The, the, the notion that somehow the Ukrainians
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should investigate this themselves to me is ludicrous. Um, they're, they're just not going
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to be able to do it. And that's why we need people over there. Are these documents genuine? Are they
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real? Are they made up? Uh, there's so much political theater in Ukraine, um, that I think we need
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to be skeptical until we have actual people go over there. John Solomon's been trying to do this
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go over there who are professionals who know this and say, look, I'm, I'm using various tests and
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these documents appear to be genuine. So I think your, your, your tone and approach on this Glenn
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is exactly right. Yeah. It's, it's a, one of those things where when something is too good to be true,
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exactly, it usually is. Um, all right, Peter, thank you so much. Thank you for all of the work that
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you've done. Um, I'd love to bring you down for a podcast where we could spend 90 minutes on what
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you know, uh, and take us through all of that. But I, I thank you so much for everything that
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you've done and keep your chin up. I know what it's like to be called a conspiracy theorist and
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to have all of your good work just thrown out, um, and, and ridiculed by those in power.
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Uh, Rudy Atala. He is the chief operating officer of the Nazarene fund. Um, he is, uh, he's a guy,
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he's a native of Beirut, Lebanon, fluent in Arabic and French. He has had over 20 years in the United
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States air force, um, special operations to intelligence and counter terrorism. He has
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consulted presidents and we are thrilled that he has been our COO. And he's the guy who is sending
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these rescue missions and putting them together and rescuing these people. Rudy, welcome to the
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program. Uh, good morning. Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much. You bet. I don't want to get into the
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politics of this because I know it's split and it, we may even disagree on the politics of it.
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I just want to talk about the human cost and what is going to happen and what our,
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our responsibility, I believe for the people who choose to help their, you know, be a good Samaritan
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and help the people, um, what we can do first, let's start with something I received last night,
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these horrific pictures of these people that were in what looked like even the hallway of a hospital,
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um, trying to be, um, cleaned up after a bombing. I was told both of them were dead. It's a mother
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and a father and their children. The Nazarene fund had already saved them once from ISIS and then
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moved them back into their houses. And I was told they were killed. You have a different story this
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morning? Yes, sir. Actually, they, uh, they survived. They were, uh, critically wounded, um, uh, with the
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bombings. Uh, the, uh, unfortunate thing is when, uh, when Turkey began its bombing, it's very targeted,
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um, uh, against the, it's, it's, it's focused on the Kurds, but, uh, as we know, um, Christian families
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live, uh, uh, in, in Kurdish areas. Many of them come from, uh, centuries, uh, you know, uh, of, uh,
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you know, family lineage in the area. And this family, unfortunately, uh, was, was, uh, critically wounded.
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Uh, we're getting, uh, the ground invasion just began, uh, in a four-pronged attack, uh, into northern
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Syria. And, uh, the displacement as of this morning, we're, we're hearing that over a hundred
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thousand people have, have already been displaced. And, uh, this number is going to continue to
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increase. Um, uh, we're slowly getting, um, uh, feed from, uh, from our, some of our, our, uh,
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our members on the ground. It's been very, very difficult, as you can tell from, uh, from the
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bombings and the shellings to get this information. But, uh, so far a lot more people have been
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wounded. We just don't have a very good tally on the numbers right now.
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We have, when we have the video, we are just receiving new video. Uh, if we have the video
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of, go ahead and roll this. This is a town that, uh, somebody appears to be standing on their roof
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and they're showing that it's just everything around their town is on fire, uh, been bombed.
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Um, they were safe. Uh, can you tell me a little bit about this video? Uh, Rudy, did you get it?
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Yes. Yeah. Glenn, I just saw the video. This is coming from, uh, the town of Tal Abyad that's
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in the north central, uh, region of Syria, uh, of northern Syria. And, um, you know, the person
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that videotaped, this is videotaping the, uh, the, the different sections, uh, where the,
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where the Turks are bombing. Uh, the Kurdish forces are not going to, uh, take this, uh,
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laying down. They're going to actually fight. And the reason why the fighting is going to actually
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happen is because back in January, 2018, the Turks, uh, went into the town of Afrin in Syria
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and, and, uh, uh, cleansed over 200,000 Kurds. This was in January, 2018. So, so Kurdish forces
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saw this and are not going to, uh, this time sit back and not be prepared. They are going to fight
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to the death. So, um, these are not people, I, I wish we wouldn't have been in bed with
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these particular Kurds. These are not the Iraqi Kurds who are very pro-democracy and freedom and
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love America. These guys are really some, you know, they're, they're Marxist, uh, communists,
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uh, kind of, you know, they're authoritarian. Um, and I don't like being in bed with them,
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but still they fought against ISIS. They actually were guarding a lot of the ISIS members, which we
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have taken apparently the worst of those ISIS people and got them out. So they're not, you know,
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released back into the public, but that's one of the things the Kurds and the Christians,
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and the Yazidis are afraid of is the, those gates are going to be opened, uh, from those
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prison camps and they're all going to just disappear. Yes, that's correct. So what's going
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to happen is as, as the Kurdish forces will be pressured, big camps like Al-Hol camp, uh, which
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has houses right now, over 70,000, uh, prisoners, mainly the, uh, the women and children of ISIS
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fighters, many of them very radicalized and have sworn to fight, uh, camps like Ayn Asa,
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Roj, all of these camps now will be under a major duress because the Kurds will not be able to
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maintain, uh, you know, guard over them and the likelihood, and actually Baghdadi last month, uh,
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the, the, the leader of ISIS, uh, made a plea for his fighters to go in and rescue all these prisoners
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and get them released. We are now already hearing of, of ISIS, uh, attacks where we're hearing of,
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uh, uh, suicide attacks, uh, not unconfirmed yet, but I, I'm not surprised, I would not be surprised
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if they start to show, um, you know, back when, when, uh, when ISIS was strong and they controlled,
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uh, a good chunk of real estate in Northern Syria, many of the ISIS fighters were found,
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uh, with, uh, with, uh, SIM cards from Turkey, their rear base, their, their support would come
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from inside Turkey. Um, we know we shut down two organ harvesting, you know, quote hospitals,
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um, and they were in Turkey. They were, they were helping harvest organs with ISIS, uh, and,
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uh, you know, Turkey is Turkey is, she may be an ally in NATO, but it's not an ally. It's not,
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they're on the wrong side. And if I'm not mistaken, I'd love you to correct this.
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They want to reestablish the Ottoman empire. They want their land back, even from the Northern
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Iraqi Kurds. They want to, um, they want to wipe out all Kurds and many of the Christians.
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They don't want them there anymore. And Turkey has done this in the past.
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Am I mistaken that we're looking at a, a genocide?
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Yes, I would call it an ethnocide, but yes, you're correct. And the reason why is because
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the current president of Turkey is a card carrying member of the Muslim brotherhood.
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And when the Muslim brotherhood was established in the early part of the 20th century, the view
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from Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim brotherhood is to return to what he calls pan-Arabism
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and pan-Islamism, basically a control. Uh, when, when Islam had conquered all the way up to the end of
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the Ottoman empire in the beginning of the 20th century, it had a large real estate in North Africa
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across the Middle East into a good chunk of Europe. And, and, and, and the idea of behind
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the Muslim brotherhood is basically to return to this pan, pan-Arabism. And that's the foundation
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of it. Um, the current president of Turkey holds these views in his mind. So what he's talking about
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right now is, is, is repatriating a lot of the refugees that are inside Turkey into Northern Syria
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and creating that buffer zone. Unfortunately, most people don't understand that what he really wants
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to do is he wants to rid of Northern Syria of any presence of Christians or Kurds and replace them
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with Arabs, Sunni Arabs that have the same mindset. Because only 17 to 20% of the refugees currently
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in Syria are, I mean, in Turkey are Syrian Arabs that are Sunnis. So he's not going to have a lot
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of refugees to work with. And he's going to have to replace the rest of these gaps with other people.
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Okay. Rudy, you and I have talked to many of these Christians in the past. They've wanted to stay in
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the area because they don't want to abandon the, the birthplace in many cases of Christianity. The,
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you know, where the apostles actually set up the actual church that they attend. Um, and they don't
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want to, they don't want to abandon it. Uh, I have a feeling what's coming now. They're going to be
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willing to say, I gotta, I gotta get out of here. We got to get our families out of here.
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Yes. Um, this is, am I overstating it to say the problem may be worse than it was before,
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and we have to get these people out? Yes, it's, it can become a lot worse and we need to help every
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single one of them. And the reason why is they're going to get pushed into areas that are predominantly
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dominated by, uh, Iranian backed militias, which are just as bad as, as ISIS. And then we can see
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a resurgence of ISIS. So they would be indiscriminately targeted because of their
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Christian faith. And, and, and sadly enough, as you mentioned, we would lose a lot of those
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Judeo-Christian, uh, areas that, that, that have been there for centuries that hold basically the,
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the, you know, the, the historical data of, of our, our heritage of where we originally came from,
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like, you know, the tomb of Jonah, the tomb of Nahum, and all these, all these very special old
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places that you read in the old Testament. So, and these Christian, these Christian families are,
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are, are, you know, we, we talked, I was, uh, in, in Iraq with my team, uh, not even a month and a
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half ago. And, uh, we were talking to 684 Syrian Christian families that were crying. They wanted to
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return back to Syria, but they could not because, you know, the infrastructure was taken away from them.
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They can't even work. Now we're going to see even more Christians leave from inside Syria. And all
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of them are going to be pushed into neighboring countries like, you know, Iraq, like Jordan,
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like Lebanon, which are already at the, at the brink of maximum capability for, to help refugees.
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So they don't have, they don't have the infrastructure to take in more refugees. Uh, the medical capabilities
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are not there. So what the Nazarene fund is doing is we are finding these families. We are helping
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them stand on our two feet. Uh, we're working with the government of Australia and we're looking for
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other governments to take them in. We're trying to give them a new lease on life. Many of them are
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professionals. A lot of these Christians, uh, are, are professionals, doctors, lawyers, engineers,
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very well-educated people. All they care about is raising their families properly,
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but they're not allowed to work in many of these countries. I had a woman,
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she looked at me and was crying. She said, I'm a, I'm a professional teacher. I ran a school
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in Damascus, Syria. I can't return right now because it's so dangerous for me and my family.
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She said, I'm, I'm stuck scrubbing toilets from, from eight o'clock in the morning to five o'clock
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at night. She said, I'm not ashamed to do it. I received $5 a day for it. And she said,
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I'm not allowed to work as a teacher because I'm a Christian.
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And what's amazing is most of these people will do those jobs and they would do those for the rest
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Okay. Last week we did a chalkboard. It is the,
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the most watched video. The blaze has ever produced in 10 years. Um, it is,
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it's watched on YouTube and Facebook as well. Uh, it is hard to find. However, uh,
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it's almost like it's being suppressed. If you want to find this chalkboard,
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go to YouTube and the Glenn Beck page and search for Ukraine scandal explained Ukraine scandal
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explained, and it should pop up. And it's a edited 50 minute version of the chalkboard.
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A lot of the reporting that we got and, and the evidence that we have on that chalkboard came from
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John Solomon, who has been relentless on Ukraine. And we have a ton of questions and John, normally we
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kind of meander and I'd like to, I've, I've literally have two and a half pages of questions.
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I'd like to get to, uh, quickly. How are you? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on today.
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Okay. So first of all, thank you for everything you've done. Thank you for the bullets that you
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are taking. I know what it's like to have your life's work just discredited and your, and everything
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called into question, even though you have the goods, um, and, uh, you'll make it through it and
00:41:07.240
you're going to come out as a hero in this story, I believe. Well, the great thing is, uh, I don't
00:41:11.980
really want to be a hero. I just, uh, the good thing about journalism is facts are a stubborn
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thing. Yep. And I think when people look at the facts and they get rid of the spin and the personal
00:41:20.280
ad hominem attacks that don't have any basis, you focus on the facts. There are a lot of troubling
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questions and I'm sure you're going to ask me a lot of them today. Yeah. Well, so, um, Devin Nunes
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is just revealed that they were looking into a report of strange requests, uh, to use government
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resources to monitor journalists over there. And we have to be cautious because sometimes those are
00:41:42.620
okay. Sometimes they're not. Do you have any new information on this? Well, I can tell you what
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happened. Uh, you know, I was listening with interest when, when Congressman Nunes made those
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comments last night, about 10 days ago, I received, uh, some communications from, uh, the intelligence
00:42:00.120
community from sources I had there. And they said to me that there, there was going to be a revelation
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soon about some inappropriate monitoring of my communications. Now they weren't more specific
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than that. Uh, so, uh, that's really all I've had for the last 10 days. And, you know, I let my
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lawyers know, and we're just going to wait and see if an actual notification comes forward. And then we
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heard, you know, Congressman Nunes last night, what he's talked about was very similar to the, to the
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information, the intelligence community sources were telling me over the last 10 days. It sounds like
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from what we know that, um, uh, the U S embassy in Kiev, uh, may have been monitoring a handful of
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journalist communications. Now they might be public communications like our Twitter accounts and our,
00:42:44.500
you know, our interviews, or they might've been private. We don't know that. Um, there are very
00:42:49.220
specific rules in the state department and the intelligence community governing this. And it sounds
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like Congressman Nunes wants to find out whether those rules are complied with or not, whether this was
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inappropriate or inappropriate monitoring of communications. And, and as I learned a long
00:43:03.540
time ago, this is my first time I, in 2002, the FBI similarly, uh, or actually inappropriately
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intercepted my mail without a warrant and kept it in an effort to keep me from writing about stories
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about what had happened before nine 11. It just took a while to get to the truth. And I think we need
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to be patient. There, there seems to be a red flag here, but we don't have all the facts. Okay.
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I want to be careful and patient. Let's go get the facts and we'll find out what happened.
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We have, um, the ambassador, uh, uh, Yovanovitch testifying before the house. Um, do you believe
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she may be involved in any of this or just, if you just don't know, you don't know, are we going to
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get anything? Do you believe, uh, new on whether she gave the Ukrainians the do not prosecute list
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and why she didn't grant visas to the prosecutors who said they had evidence on Biden and collusion
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between the DNC and the Ukrainian embassy? All right. I think she's a very important witness
00:44:00.540
and I look forward to finding out what she has to say. Um, what we do know, uh, first of all,
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the monitoring, usually such monitoring, if it was done out of an embassy would have to be authorized
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by the ambassador under the normal rules. We don't know if that happened here yet, right? We could have
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just some rogue agents. So let's wait and see, but the normal processes for the, would be for the
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ambassador to authorize such a request. So let's wait and see what she says tomorrow. We'll learn
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more tomorrow on the do not prosecute list. This is one of my favorite red hearings. Um, the,
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those who now conspire, uh, excuse me of weaving a conspiracy theory, say, uh, a Ukraine prosecutor
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Lucentko, the general prosecutor, the attorney general of Ukraine at the time, get an on-camera
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interview. It isn't in dispute. He said it. And he said that, uh, in his first meeting with
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ambassador Yovanovitch in 2016, uh, she gave him a series of names of people. She did not want,
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uh, to be prosecuted. That was a sensational claim. And so I did the interview in February.
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I spent an entire month checking it out before I actually allowed the interview to run that
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doesn't get mentioned in any of these stories attacking me during that one month time. Here
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is what I was able to do to corroborate what the, uh, Ukrainian prosecutor general had said to me.
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First, the state department and the Ukrainians both gave me a copy of the same letter. It's an
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April, 2016 letter. It clearly shows the embassy in Kiev instructing, pressuring, ordering the
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prosecutor general's office not to pursue an ongoing investigation of a George Soros funded group
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called ANTAC, the anti, uh, the anti-corruption action center of Ukraine. It's a George Soros group.
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It's funded partly by Soros, partly by the state department. That letter unequivocally shows in
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writing that the state department pressured Ukraine not to pursue an entity. In addition,
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the state department, uh, put a senior U S official on background for me prior to my, uh, writing the
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story. And I gave him the names and said, these are the names that prosecutor general Lusenko said
00:46:03.520
came up in the meeting as people that the U S did not want to see prosecuted. And that senior
00:46:08.300
official said to me, and I have the quotes right in front of me. I actually had them ready just in
00:46:12.260
case you asked me about this. I can confirm to you that U S embassy Kiev mentioned several of those
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names during conversations in 2016 with the prosecutor general's office and other law enforcement
00:46:24.260
agencies that we did not want to see those people harassed, investigated, or prosecuted. So
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the state department confirmed it. There was written letters showing such pressure being applied.
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And now the media and, and their defenders are trying to claim that that's a bogus story. It's
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not, it's been corroborated. It's been confirmed. And I hope tomorrow ambassador Yovanovitch will
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honestly answer what went on in that meeting. I got news for you. I don't think she is because
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she's instrumental in the corruption. She would be incriminating herself on a lot of things. Would
00:46:57.200
she not? Well, you know, listen, I, I, she probably is carrying out what she thought was
00:47:01.260
the policy of the United States or certainly her best effort at it. That doesn't mean it was right
00:47:05.380
or wrong. I, but I think just getting the fact based out there, where the Ukrainians telling us
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the truth, it appears they were based on my reporting. Let's wait and see what she has to say.
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Are you as, are you as solid on her not granting visas to the Ukrainian prosecutors
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that claim to have evidence of the Bidens and collusion between the DNC and the Ukrainian
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embassy? And she, under the Obama administration, refused entrance to those people?
00:47:32.520
So my understanding is that this, these, um, uh,
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Oh, geez, you're breaking up. You're breaking up. No.
00:47:41.980
Only, uh, so what happened was, uh, a lot of people think that this all started with Rudy
00:47:46.600
Giuliani going around Ukraine and saying, giving me dirt. It actually started much earlier.
00:47:51.260
First in, in May of 2018, more than a year and a half ago, uh, Congressman went to Ukraine,
00:47:59.480
came back deeply disturbed. Okay. Hang on, hang on. Are you moving into a different room
00:48:04.060
or pacing or anything? Cause we're losing you. Uh, I don't think so. No. All right. Hang on
00:48:08.400
just a second. Let's, uh, let me take a quick break. Cause I don't want to miss a single word
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on this. Let's take a quick break. Have our engineers look at this, see if we can get a better
00:48:15.240
connection. All right. We have him now on a different line and a different phone. Uh,
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John Solomon, uh, we were talking about, uh, the prosecutors at the embassy. Did she refuse
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visas, um, to let these prosecutors come in and work with the DOJ?
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So there were three waves of concerns expressed by Ukrainian authorities, including the prosecutors
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and other officials. May of 2018, then house rules committee chairman, Pete Sessions, a Republican
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from Texas, one of the most powerful chairman in all of Congress at the time, he made a trip over
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to Ukraine. He came back and he wrote a letter to the brand new secretary of state, Mike Pompeo and
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said, I have heard some deeply troubling reports from both Ukrainians and Americans that our
00:49:02.060
ambassador is bad mouthing president Trump. And I think you should recall her. That was the first
00:49:07.100
time that Ukrainians on the ground raised the concern that they were, uh, they saw the ambassador
00:49:13.260
engaged in inappropriate behavior, interfering in investigations, that sort of stuff. A few months
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passed, nothing happened. So the Ukrainian prosecutors under Lusenko, uh, the career people, not,
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not Lusenko, the political figure at the top, but career people downstream from them. They hired an
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American lawyer. This is in the October, November timeframe of 2018. They went out of the way. They
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hired a former U S attorney here in the United States, and they gave him a packet of information
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of things that they thought were going wrong. One was the prosecutor, uh, the ambassador was
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interfering in Ukrainian internal affairs, like telling us who we could prosecute, not prosecute to that
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Joe Biden had fired a prosecutor who was investigating his son's company, Burisma. And three, there is
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some significant evidence. And there's about to be a court ruling in Ukraine. This is in the fall of
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18. There's about to be a court ruling that Ukraine inappropriately interfered in the U S election in
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2016. We'd like to get all this information to the justice department, that U S attorney, a Republican
00:50:14.440
Republican reached out to the U S attorney's office in New York and provided that information.
00:50:19.460
The reason they hired that U S attorney was that they had tried on their own to get visas to come
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to the United States. And the embassy was telling them they would not process the request. They were
00:50:29.500
just sitting there on process. So they wouldn't reject them. They wouldn't approve them. And so they
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were in limbo. And so they hired this lawyer, uh, to go provide that information to the U S attorney in,
00:50:39.120
um, New York. I confirmed with that U S attorney. He did in fact convey that information. He was in
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fact hired. They were in fact not getting their visas. So an American confirms this story from
00:50:49.680
the Ukrainians. Okay. So, and then we go ahead, go ahead. And then we fast forward. The third wave
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is when eventually Lusenko, the boss of these, um, uh, career prosecutors in Ukraine, the attorney
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general of Ukraine, they call the prosecutor general. He reaches out to me and agrees to do an
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interview. And he says on the record, uh, what had happened, both, you know, confirming what Pete
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Sessions said, confirming what the prosecutors had done in the fall and, and, you know, legitimately
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raising concerns, which is when we have a diplomat on our, our soil in Ukraine, their job is not to
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tell us what to do in our internal affairs to make, you know, deal with American policy, but not to tell
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us who we can and can't prosecute on our own soil. And so three waves over, over a year, all under
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president Trump, all efforts to get information to the United States that they thought was troubling
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and all before Rudy Giuliani ever got on the ground in, in Ukraine. So did we get to those,
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those documents? Did that ever come and whatever happened to it?
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Uh, that's a great question. Well, uh, the, uh, I spoke to the U S attorney, the lawyer who was hired.
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He says he did in fact give a general summary of what they had and then offered to get them all the
00:51:58.720
documents, all the underlying documents that would validate or confirm that summary in the U S attorney's
00:52:04.040
office in New York, never responded with interest, never asked for the documents. Basically it died
00:52:09.000
with the first, uh, letter that was sent over. So, uh, it does not look like the U S justice department
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under Donald Trump was very interested in it because they could have at least gotten the documents.
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So what did I do? I went and tried to get those documents and I got many of them, uh, like the
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letter I told you about the do not prosecute letter, uh, like the, uh, bank record showing how
00:52:28.860
much Hunter Biden was paid. I went and got those myself and I spent months and months validating
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them with sources, both on the American and U S side. And when I would have two or three sources
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saying that is an accurate document, yes, I can confirm that happened. Then I proceeded in writing
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my stories. All right. Um, a Ukrainian lawmaker who I've not heard about has just announced that he
00:52:50.800
has documents that Joe Biden was personally paid $900,000 for lobbying activities for Burisma.
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He claims the documents back this up. Um, it seems like one of those things that is too good to be
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true. We don't know who this guy, I don't know who this guy is. Do you, and have you heard this?
00:53:12.120
And is there any truth to this or possibility that it's true? It's come up many times in my
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conversations with the Ukrainians. Uh, the problem for me as a reporter and get, it's a sensational
00:53:22.760
thing. It'd be a wonderful thing to report, you know, and make famous if it were true, but it's
00:53:26.760
not true. Right. And here's how I know it's not true. I have the internal, uh, accounting registers
00:53:33.300
of you, of, uh, Burisma. I was able to get them from a source. They were validated by Burisma
00:53:38.380
corporate officials. They show every transaction the company ever made. There is no transaction listed in
00:53:45.020
that, um, uh, accounting ledger and in any of the financial books or any of the wires that I also
00:53:52.320
been able to get, uh, showing a payment to Joe Biden. So I don't give much credence that lawmaker
00:53:57.480
is very closely aligned to Russia. So it could be Russian misinformation or propaganda. I will say
00:54:03.280
many people have alleged that on the ground, there's a rumor that has long been on Ukraine, but
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I always stay in the form of, of, of what's in the fact. And what I can tell you is the amount of
00:54:13.140
money that goes to Hunter Biden's company is a lot more than what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden say.
00:54:18.020
If you look at the press reports of the last year, there's this number that keeps coming up that
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Hunter Biden only got $50,000 a month. Now only is a lot of money, 50,000 is a lot of money, right?
00:54:28.320
That's a big chunk of change. The problem with that account is that it greatly under, uh,
00:54:33.180
underestimates or, uh, greatly, uh, diminishes how much money really was flowing to Hunter Biden,
00:54:39.280
this company. I have put into the public domain, uh, the corporate records of Rosemont Seneca.
00:54:44.740
How did I get them? I got them from the FBI in America. They had seized them in another case.
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I was able to obtain them from the court file for, from the period of 2014 and 2015, you can see from
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May, 2014 through the end of 2015, regular payments totaling more than 166,000 every month going to
00:55:04.040
Rosemont Seneca from Burisma, usually in two payments, 83,000, three 33, twice. It's highly
00:55:11.320
likely that those payments were one for one was for Hunter Biden. And the other was for his business
00:55:17.540
partner, Devin Archer, both who got put on the board. Now that's unusual. One American company
00:55:21.940
having two board members, uh, raises a question about independence of the board, right? But there's
00:55:27.620
at least that much money. Some months you can see as much as $220,000 going to Rosemont Seneca.
00:55:33.600
That is a lot more than 50,000. All right. Let me do not know what that money was for. It's
00:55:38.780
marked in the ledger as consulting payments. So that would mean these board members were also
00:55:44.360
paying themselves consulting fees. That is why the Ukrainians wanted this to be investigated in
00:55:49.440
America, not under Ukrainian law. They wanted Americans to look at it and find out what was
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going on with the money. All right. Tell me about Nancy Pelosi's son. He apparently was also,
00:56:00.200
um, I think a COO of an oil company over in Ukraine. Do you have anything on that?
00:56:07.700
I don't, I don't have much visibility on that. I've seen the reports. Um, I think there's a much
00:56:13.520
more interesting story emerging, uh, in the next few weeks. I would keep an eye in the next month on
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the office of special counsel, not to be confused with Robert Mueller's special prosecutor's office.
00:56:23.720
This is a career office and it's where whistleblowers traditionally go when they, when they have
00:56:29.600
evidence of wrongdoing. I am seeing pretty substantial evidence that the OSC is, is, has an
00:56:35.440
ongoing investigation into multiple energy companies in Ukraine and the possibility that
00:56:42.000
the Obama administration created erroneous records that allowed more money to flow to those energy
00:56:48.460
companies than what that they were entitled to get at the time. I, that case is still unwinding,
00:56:53.100
but I think we could see a lot of people involved in that case. Wow. The blaze radio network