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00:00:36.660 We talked a little bit about the president and his speech last night.

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00:00:41.120 What did you think?

00:00:41.900 We talked about the warrior payments and what the Republicans are caving on with Obamacare again.

00:00:48.000 You know it's going to happen at Christmastime.

00:00:49.920 We're not going to hear about it because we'll all be having turkey and they'll be passing garbage in Congress. 0.84

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00:03:31.500 So something the president said yesterday that I thought was really, really good because it will make a difference.

00:03:39.140 And it's not a redistribution of wealth.

00:03:42.180 He talked about his warrior dividend.

00:03:48.060 He said every 1.45 million military personnel are going to receive $1,776 before Christmas.

00:03:59.080 And he says it's recognition for their service and sacrifice.

00:04:02.220 He says one time it's coming from tariffs because the big, beautiful bill tonight.

00:04:08.340 I'm proud to announce more than 1.45 million service members will receive a special we call warrior dividend, a warrior dividend in honor of our nation's founding in 1776.

00:04:18.780 We're sending every soldier $1,776.

00:04:21.340 I think this is better than choosing another group of people who's poor and let's give them the money.

00:04:33.980 I don't like when the government hands out money, but if anybody, I mean, they're already on the payroll and they're underpaid.

00:04:39.500 And if anybody can use it, it's the military.

00:04:42.340 $1,700 is a huge amount for most people in the military.

00:04:48.040 Gigantic amount.

00:04:49.380 That will make an actual impact in the people's lives who I think actually deserve, you know, we, we, we, we don't do enough for our military.

00:04:59.140 Um, and so it's the best kind of, I don't know, stimulus package I've ever seen.

00:05:06.580 Although this isn't a stimulus package, I don't think, um, you know, these people are going to pump it into the, I can guarantee you they're going to get it and they're going to use it on their family for Christmas, which, you know, will stimulate the.

00:05:19.380 Economy so much warrior dividends.

00:05:21.720 How'd you feel about that still?

00:05:24.520 Um, a bit conflicted, uh, for a few reasons.

00:05:29.100 I obviously 100% agree with you that, that our military members deserve more money and I'm excited.

00:05:35.420 They're going to get it.

00:05:36.480 And I have no, my feeling on that from a general perspective is very, very positive.

00:05:41.180 Like if we're going to give money to anybody, our military is great.

00:05:45.300 And you know, so that's obvious.

00:05:47.640 And, but I had a couple of concerns, one being, you know, we're not exactly at a place where we just have tons of extra money lying around to, you know, to throw around, uh, to people.

00:05:59.660 I know the argument is with tariffs, uh, that we have enough, but of course that pays only for a slight amount of our deficit.

00:06:06.220 Right.

00:06:07.080 So we are still, this is all money that we don't actually have.

00:06:10.340 Number one.

00:06:11.060 And number two, uh, my under, and I don't really understand, maybe you have a better understanding of this, but like my understanding of the mechanism of how we spend money as a government is that the Congress passes a bill to allocate money.

00:06:24.780 When you're talking about a policy like this.

00:06:27.480 And I, I, I think the president's heart.

00:06:30.060 You got rid of that under Obama.

00:06:32.540 You got rid of under the.

00:06:34.300 Well, I didn't get rid of it.

00:06:36.140 You did. Congress.

00:06:36.820 No, I know.

00:06:37.760 It is still the law of the land, but nobody's paying attention to it anymore.

00:06:42.740 Congress doesn't even pay attention to it anymore.

00:06:45.060 They don't, they don't seem to care.

00:06:46.480 Now, and the other thing with this part of it, particularly Glenn, is quite obviously there would be very little resistance to a bill that did this.

00:06:56.980 If you put a bill in front of Congress that said, we're going to give a bonus of $1,776 to all of our military members, I, I would love to do it just to dare the Democrats to vote against it.

00:07:08.080 Right.

00:07:08.340 Like even take out all the concerns about spending.

00:07:10.500 This obviously would pass because no one would have the balls to vote against it outside of like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey.

00:07:17.780 Like that, there'd be a couple people, but it'd be pretty limited.

00:07:21.680 So it could have gone through the normal processes.

00:07:25.100 I don't know if Trump is just saying like, I want to be, you know, I, I, I want to dare someone to try to stop me here.

00:07:31.720 Or if it's just, look, there's a pile of money in a military budget somewhere that he can move around and he has control of it because he's commander in chief.

00:07:39.440 I don't really understand the mechanism.

00:07:40.940 So I have some questions around that.

00:07:42.740 But, you know, of course, generally speaking, when you're thinking of the most offensive things that the government does, giving our military more money is nowhere near the top of that list.

00:07:50.420 Is not what it is.

00:07:51.740 Not, not it, not it.

00:07:53.540 They deserve it.

00:07:54.520 They deserve it.

00:07:55.220 Now, the Republicans pass something.

00:07:58.740 I love this.

00:07:59.960 Because they just passed their health care plan, which is just stay with Obamacare without re-upping the insurance part of it.

00:08:09.180 So they're not for the subsidies.

00:08:11.740 This is not going to pass.

00:08:13.000 This is not going to pass.

00:08:13.840 This is just something that they passed, you know, in the House.

00:08:17.940 It's not going to be passed the Senate, not going to go to the president's desk.

00:08:22.040 Here's what's going to happen.

00:08:23.440 You're going to see the House and the Senate.

00:08:27.060 No, no, no.

00:08:27.960 Let me rephrase that.

00:08:28.920 I started that with a lie.

00:08:32.160 While you're not paying attention this Christmas, you will not see, but it will happen anyway.

00:08:40.120 The House and the Senate will re-up the insurance subsidies and they will pass this health care thing while nobody's paying attention.

00:08:48.820 And then it'll be over.

00:08:50.780 I mean, that's exactly what's going to happen.

00:08:52.600 There's not a chance we come back on January 5th and we say, oh, my gosh, look, wow, they're going to close down the government because they didn't pass this health care thing?

00:09:05.260 Well, good for the Republicans for having a spine and standing up.

00:09:09.300 Nope, not going to happen.

00:09:11.960 It does appear the chance of the Republicans folding here is approaching 1 trillion percent.

00:09:18.000 I don't know.

00:09:18.860 We're having major inflation.

00:09:20.400 I would say 38 trillion.

00:09:21.680 Okay, there you go.

00:09:22.620 It's a 38 trillion percent.

00:09:24.300 Yeah.

00:09:24.640 I don't know because basically what has happened is enough Republicans have already folded on this for a three-year extension of these subsidies,

00:09:33.880 which, again, is a giveaway on top of the normal Obamacare to make it Obamacare turbo and lock in even higher subsidies because the old Obamacare plan failed.

00:09:45.160 So that is what we're talking about here.

00:09:47.140 So going back to Obamacare as passed is now the worst thing in the world to even the Democrats.

00:09:53.880 Fascinating.

00:09:54.360 But they have enough Republicans who have changed sides on this and they are now the Democrats have enough votes to force a vote on this bill, which almost definitely will pass the House because they already have the votes and other Republicans will want to now change sides that there's a public vote.

00:10:14.220 So it will likely pass there.

00:10:16.300 It's possible, obviously, that they stop it in the Senate.

00:10:19.160 They could stop it in the Senate.

00:10:20.500 I don't know.

00:10:21.160 I don't think that there's much appetite to stop this.

00:10:23.320 Honestly, at the end of the day, you know, you probably will have a chance of doing it in the Senate, though.

00:10:28.580 That's our best chance.

00:10:29.480 My guess is what happens is once the pressure is there, they find a way to maybe adjust it and do a year or something like that that gets them past the election.

00:10:42.680 But, of course, what happens in a year?

00:10:44.940 And we all know what happens in a year.

00:10:46.600 It's the same thing that's going to happen this year.

00:10:48.160 It's the same thing that happened four years ago when the first part of this bill went away in 2022 or 2021.

00:10:55.400 They came in and they said, OK, let's extend it for four more years.

00:10:57.580 So my guess is there's probably going to be some adjustments to this plan.

00:11:02.560 But I do not expect at all the Republicans to hold the line on this.

00:11:05.720 Not only do they no longer want to get rid of Obamacare, they don't even want to get rid of Obamacare Turbo.

00:11:11.540 It's, you know, they passed this thing yesterday, which does give them the argument to say, hey, we did pass something.

00:11:18.300 We do have a plan.

00:11:19.360 It's right here.

00:11:20.940 Stu, understand the reality.

00:11:23.000 Understand the reality.

00:11:23.860 We can't get things done unless we have the House and the Senate and the White House and the Supreme Court.

00:11:31.200 So we just have to wait until we have a time when what?

00:11:35.780 Glenn, I have breaking news.

00:11:38.240 We've got all that.

00:11:39.500 We've got all of that right now.

00:11:41.080 Now, I will say there is a filibuster in the Senate that does hold you up a little bit.

00:11:45.380 Yeah, it's not as big as we need it or really want.

00:11:50.600 We have to have the House, the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court.

00:11:55.700 But we have to have more than what we said when we said those things.

00:12:02.280 We just need those, you know, all three branches of government.

00:12:05.720 We need all three branches of government, but more.

00:12:09.340 It's like we need we need that turbo kind of like Obamacare turbo.

00:12:16.380 It's never quite enough to get the job done.

00:12:20.060 Never is, Glenn.

00:12:20.940 I really do expect if we had a 9-0 Supreme Court, the presidency and 534 combined congressmen and senators, they say we got to get that last one.

00:12:29.920 We can't do this with this guy over here.

00:12:31.580 There's one Democrat in Congress.

00:12:33.400 We can't do this.

00:12:34.260 It's that's exactly what I would expect.

00:12:36.520 It's standing in the way.

00:12:38.060 It's pathetic.

00:12:39.080 But, you know, it reminds you that your goals are not their goals.

00:12:44.740 You know, that's what I keep coming back to forever.

00:12:47.680 Glenn, when we started this show, I will say I started the show very young.

00:12:51.780 You know, I was in my early 20s and didn't really understand lots of things.

00:12:55.280 I was unfortunately learning from you, which have obviously turned into a catastrophe.

00:12:58.900 But, you know, as I learned here at the beginning, my thought was us as conservatives, as Republicans, as the right agree on a lot of different things.

00:13:10.860 And there are disagreements as to how we get there.

00:13:13.440 Right.

00:13:14.240 There are sometimes people think we need to kind of fold or sometimes we need to compromise and we have to move slowly.

00:13:18.960 And some other people over there saying, hey, no, we got to go all the way right now.

00:13:22.720 We're going to go all the way.

00:13:23.460 And there's that disagreement.

00:13:24.320 You remember this from going back in history, right?

00:13:26.420 Slavery was like this.

00:13:27.980 There were some people who were like abolish, abolish, abolish.

00:13:30.100 And others were like, gosh, I don't think we can do that.

00:13:32.060 We got to we got to finagle.

00:13:33.660 We got to work around the edges.

00:13:34.760 Because every big debate has had that.

00:13:37.580 What I learned over time is that actually the goals aren't the same.

00:13:42.380 When we are saying, hey, we want it.

00:13:44.160 We need to make sure government is more is smaller and more limited.

00:13:46.840 That's not the goal of most of the people on, quote, unquote, our side in Washington.

00:13:52.100 They don't share those goals.

00:13:53.760 So they're working for something completely different.

00:13:56.240 They're not going to what we want as the as a typical American conservative.

00:14:01.340 We're inching towards some of those goals, but also like when we need to give up on them

00:14:06.520 and go the completely opposite direction for to keep these guys in office for a couple

00:14:10.160 more years.

00:14:10.740 Fine.

00:14:11.760 And that's what's really frustrating here.

00:14:15.140 So let me give you some good news and then I'll, you know, then I'll spoil it for you.

00:14:20.340 But some good news.

00:14:21.500 The House has just passed legislation that makes performing transgender surgeries on minors

00:14:26.640 a felony.

00:14:29.000 Now, here's the bad news.

00:14:30.520 It passed 216 to 211.

00:14:33.900 That means really there are 211 Democrats that actually in their heart of hearts think

00:14:43.980 that cutting into minors, cutting the breasts off at this point, now that we have all the 1.00

00:14:50.960 data that we have gathered over, you know, five years of doing this to children at this

00:14:56.620 point, there's still 211 that firmly believe, you know, dammit, we should cut off the breasts, 1.00

00:15:03.940 a healthy breast off of a healthy minor. 0.90

00:15:07.000 We've got to make those.

00:15:08.400 We've got to make those decisions and let a 12-year-old make that decision.

00:15:11.880 A 15-year-old should make that decision.

00:15:15.360 Really?

00:15:17.300 No.

00:15:17.780 It's just politics.

00:15:20.160 And if they do think they believe it, they believe it because they've been party brainwashed.

00:15:26.900 You know, how many of us on any and all sides, how many of us actually believe something

00:15:33.060 and have thought it through, and how many of us are just kind of zombie following the crowd?

00:15:43.060 I contend most people are just zombie following the crowd.

00:15:46.440 Whether that might even be a crowd now of like, you know what, Charlie Kirk was killed by his wife.

00:15:53.820 There's all kinds of zombie crowds, and they don't require you to think at all.

00:16:01.220 They just require you to sign up for the team.

00:16:05.380 And that's my biggest problem with the Republicans is I'm not on a team.

00:16:12.320 You know, when I left Fox, Roger Ailes said to me, you know what your problem is?

00:16:17.040 And I said, no, but I know you're going to tell me.

00:16:19.440 No, I don't, sir.

00:16:20.520 What is my problem?

00:16:21.620 He said, you won't play the game.

00:16:23.820 He said, you know, there's, it's, they're well-established rules.

00:16:31.320 If you need a pound of flesh, you take a pound of flesh from me.

00:16:35.600 But then I'm, you owe me a pound of flesh.

00:16:38.960 And so when I need a pound of flesh, I'm going to come and take it out of you. 0.51

00:16:42.780 And then we go out and we have dinner with each other.

00:16:46.900 And I was just astounded that that was actually spoken out loud.

00:16:51.280 And I said, see, here's the problem.

00:16:57.880 I don't believe it is a game.

00:17:00.180 I actually believe in something.

00:17:02.220 And, and I thought more people believed in something.

00:17:07.820 Don't, don't you feel like you just want somebody to go in like Mr. Smith goes to Washington and actually believe in something.

00:17:16.200 And then when they find out, wait a minute, I've been duped, like Mr. Smith goes to Washington, they stand up and go, this is wrong.

00:17:23.500 And I'm not playing that game.

00:17:26.020 And I don't want to play that game.

00:17:28.520 And then you kind of, again, there's so many loops or hoops you have to jump through for this to happen.

00:17:34.220 Then you actually have to believe there are other people in Congress or in the Senate that are like, you know what?

00:17:40.200 He's brave enough to say it.

00:17:41.620 I'm going to stand up next to him.

00:17:43.280 I mean, I remember when I was young and naive and I believe those things would happen.

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00:19:14.940 Now back to the podcast.

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00:19:20.960 Harmeet Dillon, welcome.

00:19:22.960 I'm so glad that you could join us today, Harmeet.

00:19:25.480 Oh, thanks for having me.

00:19:26.580 No, she is the, she's the DOJ's assistant attorney general for civil rights. 1.00

00:19:31.440 Harmeet, let's start with the, let's start with what's happening with the cases in several different states on what happened in 2020.

00:19:42.580 What have you found and what's being done about it?

00:19:46.860 Well, I can't really talk about either of those things, but what I can say is that there's a lot of concern about, about the weaponization of the Department of Justice.

00:19:57.640 And, and, and beyond weaponization, abuse of process that happened here.

00:20:03.740 I mean, the recent story in the news, of course, that people are talking about is the raid on the president's home in Mar-a-Lago, where apparently, you know, the federal government here, the Department of Justice, was aware that it was not supported by probable cause.

00:20:20.900 And a political decision was made to override that and weaponize the DOJ.

00:20:26.040 And, of course, the other side keeps gaslighting us for doing this, but we're trying to play things by the book.

00:20:32.300 So we do our investigations and we go where the evidence leads us.

00:20:35.860 And I can tell you there's a keen interest in this Department of Justice to hold people accountable for abusing the civil rights of American citizens, including the president, who is an American and is entitled to the same civil rights as you and I and everybody else.

00:20:49.560 And so we're, we're really focused on it.

00:20:53.000 So, Harmeet, honestly, when that story came out about the FBI this week, when these stories break, it's nothing new.

00:21:00.220 I mean, we knew that.

00:21:01.520 I mean, now the evidence is there, et cetera, et cetera, but we knew it.

00:21:05.560 And so it doesn't ever seem new.

00:21:07.980 And then when that story first came out, I'm reading, I read it and I just dismiss it.

00:21:14.140 And it comes up in my production meeting the next morning and all my producers are talking about it.

00:21:18.080 And I said, why are you guys talking about it?

00:21:20.360 Nobody's going to go to jail.

00:21:21.620 Nothing's going to happen.

00:21:22.680 When, where is the DOJ?

00:21:24.060 And then they pointed out your name was attached.

00:21:27.840 And I thought, oh, wait a minute.

00:21:29.680 I am interested because maybe something will happen.

00:21:34.220 How does this process work?

00:21:36.560 What has to happen before we start to see indictments or, you know, trials if laws were broken?

00:21:44.900 All right.

00:21:46.560 Well, let me, let me choose my words carefully here.

00:21:48.920 So, you know, the FBI is part of the Department of Justice.

00:21:53.200 Okay.

00:21:53.700 They're across the street and they have their own leadership and management.

00:21:57.480 And, you know, the prior administration hid a lot of things over there.

00:22:03.040 We know that from stories that are unfolding and the work that they're doing over there.

00:22:07.340 And so I can't open up a investigation without some evidence.

00:22:14.560 And so when evidence comes in, then we're able to start an investigation.

00:22:18.560 And unlike the other side, we don't sort of start with a conclusion and then try to find evidence that Cherry Pick said.

00:22:24.800 We find the evidence and then we go and follow where that leads us.

00:22:28.820 And so in my case, one of the statutes that I administer here is the is the Klan Act and federal conspiracy statutes, including, you know, Section 241 and 242.

00:22:41.500 They talk about a conspiracy to violate rights.

00:22:45.320 And that can include state officials.

00:22:47.640 Typically, most of our jurisdiction here at the Civil Rights Division involves state actors violating federal civil rights and not so much federal actors.

00:22:56.460 But in theory, there could be private individuals, potentially federal actors, if you can pierce appropriate immunities who conspire to violate civil rights.

00:23:08.480 And so the conspiracy cases involve connecting multiple dots and multiple sometimes people across states and jurisdictions.

00:23:19.800 And what we have here, just to be zooming out, is multiple cases that were brought against the president in multiple jurisdictions involving multiple state actors.

00:23:28.360 So at a minimum, I think every state actor involved in these conspiracies should be concerned.

00:23:33.320 Whether or not we can tie feds into that or private people, you know, it's going to be an interesting legal question.

00:23:41.160 And there are a lot of qualified immunities and privileges that we have to pierce through to get there.

00:23:46.380 So I'll just leave it at that. It is it is complicated.

00:23:49.180 It is challenging. But there's an appetite to do it, because if we don't hold people accountable for grossly violating our civil rights, including but not limited to judges signing off on wiretapping and invasion of communications of attorneys.

00:24:05.400 I mean, I'm kind of mad about that because I've seen my name on the Arctic Cross list and the name of my law firm who represented, you know, numerous political parties involved in the 2020 election, the president, the president's campaign and others.

00:24:18.300 If we let that lie, you know, this just becomes like Venezuela or some other tin pot dictatorship.

00:24:25.600 We lose our ability to hold our heads up as the paragon of the rule of law in the world.

00:24:30.540 And so I think it's very important that we do that. Now, I mean, I will tell you, just to be frank, you know, some folks come into the DOJ, they want to burnish their credentials a bit and then go back out and, you know, do their next thing and their focus is on that.

00:24:47.480 And then there's some of us who are kind of true believers and feel like, you know, this is our mission in life to make sure this country that we love stays this country that we love.

00:24:59.240 And I'm one of those people. So I've got a lot of other patriots here like me.

00:25:03.500 And so we're we're looking at these facts carefully and seeing what we can do with them.

00:25:07.460 I just I know you have to be very, very careful, and I don't want to put you in a bad situation.

00:25:15.500 So I just, you know, I want to be careful.

00:25:20.720 Do you think that the people at the FBI and the DOJ in all levels realize that because I know you do.

00:25:31.880 Do they realize how to the end the American people are that they're starting to lose faith?

00:25:40.700 If we don't start to see people at least charged and have a fair trial, I'm not even saying that they go to jail.

00:25:49.060 Hopefully they would if they broke a law.

00:25:52.240 But, you know, showing these people because we keep getting investigation after investigation after investigation.

00:25:57.060 And then it just sits there, you know, there's a story out today about, you know, the Clinton Foundation and all the investigations, what they found.

00:26:05.800 I don't have any faith that they're nobody.

00:26:08.060 Nobody's going to jail for that.

00:26:09.400 Nobody's going to go for jail, go to jail for that.

00:26:11.240 And we're at this place to where it's up to the DOJ and the FBI to do their job and then start bringing some justice.

00:26:21.800 Because if we lose in 28 and you haven't cleaned up and set clear rules of the law does matter, all these people got away with it last time.

00:26:36.200 It's going to be a thousand times worse in 2028.

00:26:41.800 No, I hear you.

00:26:43.020 And I'm worried about it.

00:26:44.760 I'm a citizen who loves this country.

00:26:46.540 And as you know, I've donated countless millions of dollars of my billable time to being engaged in politics.

00:26:55.140 And so here's let me just set some expectations.

00:26:57.700 So we come into the DOJ.

00:26:59.380 I had about 400 attorneys plus working in my department.

00:27:02.480 I have one third of that now, because when I set the rules of what we're going to do here in this department, two thirds of the people peaced out and quit.

00:27:11.340 And some of the ones who are left behind are leaking to the press what we are doing.

00:27:16.060 And so that's the fight in my department.

00:27:18.260 OK, and then you look at where does most of this work occur when you look at the hundreds of thousands, over 100,000 people who work at the Department of Justice.

00:27:25.020 A lot of them work for the FBI.

00:27:26.280 Well, it's only the very top, top, top layer of that that is politically appointed and committed to the president's agenda.

00:27:34.400 I would say the vast majority of that agency is, you know, legacy doing what they're doing, much of which was not good for America, I'm going to say.

00:27:44.380 And then I don't mean to malign every agent out there.

00:27:46.840 Most of them are good.

00:27:48.080 But the leadership has not been great.

00:27:49.820 The people who've gotten to the top, like even in the last administration of the president, 45, James Comey and some of these others, Christopher Wray, you know, Republicans in name only and enemies of what the American voters wanted.

00:28:05.120 And they've shown that time and again and what we know publicly.

00:28:08.020 I'm sure there's more to come.

00:28:09.140 And then you look at the fact that I need to work with 94 United States attorneys to get just about anything I do done, whether it's a hate crime prosecution or civil cases that I bring.

00:28:19.180 And in some of the top jurisdictions, we can't get those people confirmed because of a dumb blue slip process that is not in the Constitution, that is not in law.

00:28:29.560 It is a made up courtesy of ancient times.

00:28:32.640 And I'm sorry, these United States senators are wedded to it.

00:28:35.920 And and here we are.

00:28:36.920 I can't get my friends call me on the phone saying I gave up my law practice.

00:28:41.820 I came into the government.

00:28:43.620 I had faith that I would be treated fairly because I've had an honorable and long career.

00:28:48.640 I've never been sanctioned by a court.

00:28:50.560 I'm a great lawyer.

00:28:51.720 And then these, you know, this dumb process means they can't get confirmed.

00:28:55.440 So now they've lost everything in their life and their career and they have to pick up the pieces and they won't get confirmed.

00:29:00.620 This is this is carnage to people's careers.

00:29:03.100 And everyone sees that.

00:29:04.500 And this is this is a feature, not a bug of this dumb blue slip process.

00:29:07.800 So, so I don't know.

00:29:09.680 The blue slip problem here, too.

00:29:12.420 We we have talked about the blue slip problem on the on the show several times, and it has to be corrected.

00:29:19.420 It's it's it's it's insane.

00:29:22.520 It is absolutely insane.

00:29:23.900 But do you feel that I mean, because it kind of sounds let me put it this way.

00:29:33.860 Is there a possibility to do to the DOJ and FBI and everything else the things that Hegseth has done to the Pentagon that was riddled with all kinds of people that shouldn't have been in there?

00:29:45.740 Or is it just a different thing where you just can't go in and say you're out because it's not it's it's not military?

00:29:53.740 Because he's he seems to be changing and we seem to have our arms around the military, at least.

00:30:01.040 And that's able to change.

00:30:04.420 Can we change this system in the DOJ?

00:30:06.960 We can we I mean, we can I mean, we're fighting with our hands tied behind our backs in a way.

00:30:13.840 And I mean, a lot of there are a lot of there are some of some of my colleagues have gotten confirmed and they're doing great work.

00:30:20.420 And and by confirmed, I actually don't mean really confirmed.

00:30:23.420 I mean, the judges voted them in.

00:30:25.540 So effectively, they're confirmed, but they weren't confirmed by the Senate process.

00:30:28.760 There are very few who've been confirmed by the blue slip process, which is dumb.

00:30:33.560 And so this president, one year in, doesn't have the DOJ that he wants because of the Senate.

00:30:40.040 That's a fact.

00:30:41.280 And so that said, there are a few.

00:30:43.640 And we're looking at the conspiracy cases that can be brought in places where we have a confirmed United States attorney and and, you know, favorable makeup of the courts.

00:30:53.860 Those are also few and far between.

00:30:55.900 And at the same time, we are fighting the left wing weaponization.

00:30:59.880 They're extremely efficient.

00:31:01.100 They bring cases every day.

00:31:02.280 Every single voting rights case that I have brought in the United States has multiple interveners, the ACLU and the League of Women Voters and yada, yada, yada.

00:31:12.520 And then I said, now that I'm sort of one brief after file for breach, you know, so that's like what we're dealing with here with a small staff.

00:31:18.360 And everyone knows that I'm not giving any trade secrets away here.

00:31:20.720 That's the whole point of what they do.

00:31:22.440 And so that's the system.

00:31:23.500 I think people don't realize when I see the criticism, every time I post something that I've done here or an investigation I've opened, there's a thousand negative comments from people on supposedly on my side.

00:31:32.460 And it's demoralizing to the lawyers here because no one gave up gave up their successful practice to come here and and just be criticized all day.

00:31:40.340 And that's why people don't stay in the government.

00:31:41.880 You know, I'm not surprised that people are talking about leaving at this point.

00:31:46.140 It's demoralizing to be here and just be criticized all day.

00:31:48.520 So so that's that's a function of of our social media world or what have you.

00:31:53.460 But I can tell you that I am joined here by, you know, so many patriots who some of them gave up very comfortable lives like I did to come here and serve their country and were determined that I will consider it a failure for sure.

00:32:07.140 If I leave here and nothing was changed and nobody was charged and nobody was held accountable for the gross violations of our civil rights, because that will simply be a green light for it to happen again, happen harder and perhaps with no recourse and no ability to win an election in the future.

00:32:24.000 I mean, if we'd had H.R.1 passed, for example, you know, who knows what would have happened in this election cycle because we've got permanent like, you know, vote by mail and no accountability.

00:32:33.500 So we are changing things bit by bit.

00:32:35.600 We're just not getting credit for it.

00:32:36.740 I think that's also true.

00:32:38.620 I only have about 30 seconds.

00:32:40.180 I'm so far behind.

00:32:40.940 I got to let you go.

00:32:41.680 Are you concerned about Bongino, his resignation and what it might mean for investigations and the resetting of justice from?

00:32:50.300 No.

00:32:51.240 OK, I'm not.

00:32:52.120 We've got great staff over there.

00:32:54.400 And, you know, there was a co-deputy director who's stepping up.

00:32:59.340 Yeah.

00:32:59.660 And I think I think we have we have plenty of people in line to help with that.

00:33:04.620 So I'm not concerned about that.

00:33:06.540 And I wish I'm ready.

00:33:08.380 You know how I feel about you.

00:33:10.780 I don't want to be part of the problem.

00:33:12.140 I want to help and be part of the solution.

00:33:14.180 You just reach out any time to tell us what we can do to help.

00:33:18.380 But the patience is running thin with the American people.

00:33:21.980 And you know that.

00:33:23.100 Thank you.

00:33:23.640 And let me just I got it.

00:33:25.500 I got to say one thing.

00:33:26.860 We need more lawyers here. 1.00

00:33:28.640 So go to USA jobs dot gov and civil rights.

00:33:32.280 We are hiring and we want some base lawyers over here to help us do our jobs.

00:33:37.260 OK, thank you.

00:33:38.420 I mean, Dylan.

00:33:39.140 Thank you.

00:33:39.560 Have a great holiday.

00:33:41.200 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:47.480 Let me give you an update on something.

00:33:49.600 Do you remember.

00:33:52.840 Oh, Jeannie. 0.98

00:33:54.500 She is from Chico, California.

00:33:57.620 Jeannie was the target lady. 0.95

00:33:59.040 She was the lady working at Target, I think, on Monday.

00:34:01.340 Uh, and she was wearing a red shirt and this woman, this Karen comes up to her and it's 1.00

00:34:08.200 just nasty and filming her on her video and like, why are you wearing that red shirt?

00:34:13.680 You're a racist and you're supporting racism.

00:34:15.920 And Jeannie was just so cool. 0.60

00:34:17.180 She's like, no, that that's your opinion.

00:34:18.640 He wasn't.

00:34:19.140 And, you know, you can have your opinion.

00:34:20.860 Uh, I'm not going to sit here and just take this.

00:34:23.280 I'm not going to argue with you.

00:34:24.440 Have a good day.

00:34:25.500 And the lady's like, well, I'm taking this to your manager. 1.00

00:34:27.840 And well, now that lady is in real trouble. 1.00

00:34:30.220 Um, but somebody started give, send, go a page for Jeannie. 1.00

00:34:34.880 And it is so, it's so cool.

00:34:38.480 I just, I love people.

00:34:40.200 So they wanted to make sure that she had a vacation. 0.62

00:34:42.940 Just let's provide her a good vacation, like a great vacation. 1.00

00:34:45.920 Well, she's going to have an unbelievable vacation. 1.00

00:34:49.960 Yesterday we told you, I think it was at like $50,000, which is a great vacation.

00:34:56.960 Give, send, go.

00:34:57.840 The people of America has, they've raised over $200,000 for Jeannie.

00:35:04.700 That's, that's game changing money for somebody like Jeannie. 1.00

00:35:08.120 Just game changing.

00:35:09.560 And you just couldn't happen to a better person.

00:35:12.760 I spoke to her, uh, yesterday off air.

00:35:15.300 I just called her to say hi.

00:35:16.960 And, uh, she was like, I said, uh, Jeannie.

00:35:20.800 And she said, speaking.

00:35:21.640 And I said, Hey Jeannie, it's, uh, Glenn Beck.

00:35:24.580 She said, what, what, what?

00:35:28.200 I said, it's Glenn Beck.

00:35:29.460 She said, uh, uh, hi.

00:35:32.900 And I said, I just wanted to call you and just tell you, you know, what, what a cool thing.

00:35:36.560 You just handled that so well.

00:35:37.780 And, uh, she said, uh, I can't believe I'm talking to you.

00:35:43.140 My life is so crazy right now.

00:35:46.140 And I said, I know, but it was really, it's really cool to watch, isn't it?

00:35:50.340 She was so sweet.

00:35:51.340 She's so nice.

00:35:52.200 I love those stories where someone becomes like well-known and, and it gets in, and everybody's

00:35:59.460 in the public eye and in a way of just, just doing the right thing, just being cool and

00:36:04.160 respectful and, you know, just handling herself in a moment that I would never be able to handle

00:36:11.100 myself that way.

00:36:12.020 Right.

00:36:12.200 Like she, she was able to keep under control.

00:36:14.280 I would have been furious.

00:36:15.180 I mean, I would have been a wise ass.

00:36:17.520 I would have done 20 things that I would have been embarrassed about later.

00:36:19.900 She did zero, which is awesome.

00:36:22.200 Yeah.

00:36:22.740 Yeah.

00:36:23.400 And I, like you said, I love it when people become famous and they're not trying to become

00:36:27.220 famous.

00:36:27.580 They're just being them.

00:36:29.240 And all of a sudden in a life is, and cause she, I mean, it was so funny.

00:36:33.480 Her life has changed.

00:36:35.080 Her life has changed.

00:36:36.260 And it's just for a moment, you know, it's your 15 minutes, but also $200,000.

00:36:41.300 I mean, can you imagine?

00:36:42.940 Wow.

00:36:43.340 Is that what it's up to now?

00:36:44.000 You know, you're working at, uh, yeah, we check.

00:36:46.960 I heard this morning it was 200.

00:36:48.640 Yeah.

00:36:49.780 213,000 right now.

00:36:51.440 Two hundred and thirteen thousand dollars.

00:36:54.520 That's awesome.

00:36:55.200 Isn't that great?

00:36:55.620 By the way, if we want to make it any higher, give, send, go.com slash genie from target

00:37:00.360 is the place to go.

00:37:01.740 If you want to get involved and if you haven't seen the video, watch it because she's just

00:37:05.940 great, just great.

00:37:07.480 And you just love her after watching it.

00:37:09.160 It's fantastic.

00:37:09.760 So I don't know if you saw, uh, Charlie Kirk's funeral.

00:37:14.220 Um, I happened to be there and, uh, it was one of the greatest worship services I have

00:37:19.960 ever seen.

00:37:20.480 I've never felt anything like it.

00:37:22.440 It was a great awakening.

00:37:25.260 It was, uh, at least a revival, unlike I have felt in a revival, maybe in my lifetime.

00:37:34.180 I mean, you could feel God there.

00:37:37.160 And when, when they were all singing on stage or they were talking about God, you could feel

00:37:42.480 God there.

00:37:43.700 And then they'd start talking about politics and it would, it would just kind of go away.

00:37:48.140 And then they'd start talking about God again and it would come back in.

00:37:50.820 It was like, it was like an ocean.

00:37:52.260 It was unbelievable.

00:37:54.820 And the worship service was just the best.

00:37:58.680 I mean, just the best.

00:37:59.860 And Phil Wickham was one of the guys who was the worship singer, uh, for that.

00:38:04.840 And he's now the voice of David in the new angel studios, animated film.

00:38:10.100 It opens up tomorrow.

00:38:11.520 Phil's on the phone with us.

00:38:12.540 Hi, Phil.

00:38:12.940 How are you?

00:38:14.140 Hi, Glenn.

00:38:14.960 I'm doing well.

00:38:15.620 It's good to meet you over the phone.

00:38:17.880 Yeah.

00:38:18.640 Um, I think I sat, I think I was sitting right behind you.

00:38:21.920 I didn't disturb anybody, but I think I was sitting right behind you at, at, at Charlie's

00:38:25.980 funeral.

00:38:27.040 Um, that was, have you ever felt anything like that before?

00:38:32.340 That was a unique situation.

00:38:34.180 When you think of the cultural moment, it was the people that were in the room, the eyes

00:38:39.740 that were globally on that moment.

00:38:42.640 And then I just think God honored a moment where a suffering, grieving widow just said,

00:38:50.980 Hey, before anything is said, I want two hours of uninterrupted worship to God in honor of Charlie.

00:38:58.600 And I think that just that kind of before we say anything, before we have a president on stage, before we, before she even gets on stage for her to say, I want the people that we listen to in our home when we want worship music on to come and just to sing out the name of Jesus and the gospel.

00:39:18.420 And I, it was just beautiful.

00:39:20.640 And I haven't been a part of, I've been a part of a lot of beautiful moments with the church

00:39:25.420 and God moves in amazing ways.

00:39:28.480 He promises when we get together to lift up his name, he promises to move.

00:39:32.040 But that was a unique moment that I will never, ever forget.

00:39:35.300 Yeah.

00:39:35.480 I, I mean, I felt God move before, but I've never felt him.

00:39:40.340 It was like he was there.

00:39:42.800 I mean, I was talking to people who are not necessarily, you know, big Christians or, you know, and, and they were saying, do you feel this?

00:39:51.500 What is this?

00:39:52.400 And I'm like, that's God, that's God showing up.

00:39:54.640 It was incredible.

00:39:55.780 Incredible.

00:39:56.180 Let me talk to you a little bit about the movie, David.

00:39:58.620 How'd you get involved in this?

00:40:00.740 Well, there's a long story that I won't bore you with, but the short story is that I just happened to know someone that knew someone that knew someone that knew that the company that was putting on this movie, the animation studio was striking out, trying to find the voice of adult David.

00:40:15.160 And after they tried Broadway, they tried, you know, the professional actors, they tried professional, some singers in the pop world.

00:40:22.420 They just thought, well, maybe we should try out some people that actually sing the songs of David as a living.

00:40:28.000 And, uh, and so they, they went, they looked kind of in the Christian worship leader realm.

00:40:33.280 And, and my name was on a list and someone was in the room at the same time.

00:40:37.920 And they said, I really think you could fill a call.

00:40:39.640 And it just was, you know, how people, if maybe if you got some church people listening out there, there's a, there's a phrase that I grew up listening to.

00:40:46.920 Cause my dad's a minister, you know, when something, something you can't explain, they said, well, that must've been a God thing, you know?

00:40:53.480 And, uh, and that's what it felt like.

00:40:55.580 And honestly, Glenn, when I got, when I kind of heard that I was in consideration, my eight year old self that, that like bought the Lion King soundtrack and was jumping around, like singing along to the Lion King.

00:41:07.900 So I just, I've always had this secret dream of animate, of voicing an animated character, but I never pursued it.

00:41:14.280 It never, I never thought it would be on my, you know, come across my desk.

00:41:18.300 But when this came across and the fact that it's David, I mean, man, I mean, for lack of better words, I've plagiarized so many of David's songs.

00:41:25.620 You know what I mean?

00:41:26.300 With my, my words at songs.

00:41:27.900 And I don't think he's got an attorney.

00:41:29.640 I think you're okay.

00:41:31.160 I gotta, hopefully he's cool with it when I see him, you know, in heaven.

00:41:34.100 Yeah.

00:41:34.280 Uh, so, so to do this character that I've known about my whole life that has inspired this story, David and Goliath has inspired billions of people.

00:41:42.340 And, and, and just what, in my mind, when I thought of families going in and young people being awakened to the stories of God that we know from the Bible and fresh new ways, it just, there was so many boxes that checked for me that I just remember thinking, man, if I can't act, I don't want to do this.

00:41:58.500 And I told them, I was like, I'm unoffendable.

00:42:00.820 If I'm horrible at this, just kick me out the door.

00:42:03.380 I don't want to be horrible in a movie as much as you don't want to be horrible in a movie.

00:42:06.940 But if I can do this, I would, I'll work so hard.

00:42:09.740 I'd love to do it.

00:42:10.680 So anyways, I'm already going longer than I wanted to, but after a couple auditions, some moments of prayer, I got a call and I was in airport.

00:42:18.200 They said, Hey, you know, we, we'd love what you brought in the auditions.

00:42:21.160 They're like, what's your middle name again?

00:42:22.900 And I was like, David.

00:42:24.440 And they're like, well, how, how would you like that to be your, your first name in a movie?

00:42:28.000 And so that was about a year and a half ago.

00:42:29.980 And it's been a beautiful, beautiful journey.

00:42:32.680 And now I can't believe it's coming out tomorrow.

00:42:34.300 I have to tell you, um, you know, there's one thing when you can write and sing music in some ways, you kind of live forever.

00:42:46.540 You know, I, there's songs that, you know, artists that I listened to from time to time that I really love.

00:42:53.080 And, you know, they don't know that they're still impacting me or anybody else.

00:42:58.100 Um, and when it comes to music and animation, you're in the hearts of children forever.

00:43:07.300 And I, I understand what you're saying about, you know, wanting to be in the, you know, in the animated world, like, you know, you as an eight year old kid with the lion King, cause it's a totally different thing.

00:43:17.980 You're going to be there forever.

00:43:19.500 So it awakens hearts.

00:43:21.660 I mean, I just, I remember when my girls who are now, you know, 14, uh, 12 and 10, but, you know, frozen was huge when they were just really young, you know, those songs were all over the place in my house, in my car, you know, and, uh, and to think that I could bring those kinds of moments into family's life.

00:43:45.560 But it's not just songs about ice and snow, but, but it's songs that carry, which are beautiful in their own right.

00:43:53.780 Yeah.

00:43:54.060 These are songs that carry like the hope and truth and ideas that we get out of the Bible about trusting in God and faith.

00:44:01.260 And, you know, there's a light, there's a, there's a, there's a theme through the whole movie about like, follow the light, the word of God, you know, David is in the song that says, thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.

00:44:13.240 And there's this spot, there's this theme of God being our shepherd and that we can trust him and that he's with us.

00:44:18.060 And just for those kinds of themes to sink in through such a fun, beautiful, uh, medium, you know, and then what a cool thing about these movies having songs is that, you know, 20%, 15%, whatever it is of the movie are these, are these things, you know, it's not easy to remember scripts, you know, or, or lines.

00:44:36.540 You kind of remember how it made you feel, but when you go home and your kids are saying in the back, Hey, turn on, turn on the soundtrack.

00:44:42.540 Like the ideas in the story of that movie sink deep, deep down in your heart.

00:44:47.280 And so to be a part of that, I'll just, I'll end that, this moment with like one story.

00:44:52.180 When I, when I went to the first screening, I ever saw this movie, I, side note, I was very nervous because I was in a room full of professional actors and directors.

00:45:01.980 And I'm just a newbie in there.

00:45:03.560 Like, I hope I didn't mess this thing up, you know, um, but I'm watching it and it was beautiful.

00:45:08.460 And right in front of me, I didn't notice until the end, but when the lights came on in the theater, it was this young boy, he probably wasn't older than seven.

00:45:14.560 He turns to his mom with these wide eyes and just says, is that really what God did?

00:45:19.800 Is that really in the Bible?

00:45:21.000 Like it awakens something in his heart.

00:45:23.200 And I, I couldn't help, but get misty eyed because all of the last year and a half of working on this movie and being a part of it and dreaming about it was for moments like that of, of kids and young people and families being awakened to this idea that we're not alone, that this isn't just a once upon a time fairy tale, but these are stories that have been handed down for generations of what I believe are truths.

00:45:47.040 And, and, uh, I just really hope this brings hope into a world that is desperate for it and light into a world where we are so confronted with the darkness lately.

00:45:57.660 I just, I'm just so excited for this movie to come out.

00:46:01.300 It is out tomorrow in theaters, December 19th.

00:46:05.060 That's, uh, tomorrow.

00:46:06.880 Um, and Phil plays the, uh, he plays David.

00:46:10.740 He's the voice of David in it.

00:46:12.640 Phil, thank you for being, uh, on the program.

00:46:15.020 Really appreciate it.

00:46:15.940 I hope we get a chance to meet in person and, and have a chat in person.

00:46:20.520 You're fabulous.

00:46:21.800 I love you.

00:46:22.600 I was kind of, yeah.

00:46:23.540 I'd love to see in person.

00:46:24.620 Thanks for having a moment for us to brag on how great the whole team did on this movie.

00:46:29.020 And God bless you guys.

00:46:31.000 God bless you, Phil.

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 18, 2025

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Phil Wickham & Harmeet Dhillon ｜ 12⧸18⧸25

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