The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rafer Weigel, Ben Sasse, Daniel Di Martinio & Eric Early ｜ 2⧸21⧸19

00:00:00.100 Welcome to my TP.

00:00:02.560 It doesn't take an awful lot of Wumpum to be able to join this. 0.92

00:00:08.020 In fact, no Wumpum at all, unless you'd like to subscribe to the white man's internet.

00:00:14.600 Well, I was going to say join the tribe.

00:00:18.800 This is going to be mildly offensive to some, but you should think about who started this with Elizabeth Ward.

00:00:24.300 Maybe to me, it'll be offensive.

00:00:27.140 Because you're 1.3% Native American. 0.91

00:00:29.140 I found out.

00:00:29.720 BlazeTV.com slash Beck is the place to go.

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00:00:34.180 Join the tribe.

00:00:35.180 Get $10 off your fee to join the tribe if you use the promo code Beck.

00:00:40.440 Yeah, 10%.

00:00:41.360 10% Wumpum off right now.

00:00:44.840 Sure.

00:00:45.720 Okay, well, you see, as we discuss in today's show, I am 1.3% Native American.

00:00:53.760 I found out from my 23andMe test, which is the greatest thing I've ever done.

00:00:57.540 And I'm not part of any tribe that you know of.

00:01:00.960 I am part of the, I believe, Grand Cherokee tribe, the one that the Jeep was named after.

00:01:06.500 But that could be, you know, that could be wrong.

00:01:09.660 Today, we talk a lot about the different things that are really concerning.

00:01:14.900 If one of these things would have come up 10 years ago, we would have been freaking out about.

00:01:19.220 Civil asset forfeiture.

00:01:20.820 Supreme Court made a good move on that, but it's just the beginning.

00:01:24.380 Also, Jussie Smollett, we talked to the guy, the reporter, who is the brave enough guy to actually break this story and follow it from the beginning.

00:01:35.120 We have Ben Sasse, who is, on Monday, putting a bill in front of the Senate, and it's going to be an on-record vote.

00:01:44.460 The, what is it, don't kill our babies after they're born votes? 0.96

00:01:48.340 I know it has a happier name than that, but that's basically what it is.

00:01:52.100 Also, a guy from Venezuela, he graduated high school in Venezuela.

00:01:57.680 He came here.

00:01:58.720 He's now at the University of Indiana in Purdue, and he is majoring in economics.

00:02:07.260 He has quite the story to tell about Venezuela, about socialism, the Democratic Party,

00:02:14.880 and an amazing story of a group of families that are just trying not to have their children indoctrinated into all white people are bad.

00:02:24.040 Wait until you hear this lawsuit. 0.97

00:02:26.740 All this and so much more in today's podcast.

00:02:29.180 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:44.840 You did take a DNA test.

00:02:47.560 I did.

00:02:48.140 And actually, I want to talk to you seriously about this.

00:02:50.480 This is one of the coolest things I've ever done.

00:02:52.780 And not because I believe I, well, I am, you know, 1.3% Native American, but I do have perspective on that,

00:03:00.920 that that doesn't mean that I'm Native American or part of a tribe or anything else.

00:03:05.360 You are going to include it on federal documents, though, right?

00:03:07.600 Oh, my gosh, I'm going for grants.

00:03:09.480 I'm going for grants.

00:03:10.120 You've got to get some grants out of this.

00:03:10.920 I've got to get some grants.

00:03:11.800 You should get 13 times more grants than Elizabeth Warren ever has received.

00:03:15.520 That's exactly right.

00:03:16.160 I'm going to, you know, I've already gone to Yale, so I'm going to now apply to Harvard, and I'm going to mark Native American.

00:03:24.760 This is the plot of Soul Man, the movie from 1986.

00:03:30.500 No, but did he have a DNA test?

00:03:32.260 He did not.

00:03:32.900 He just went in blackface, and everyone in the New York Times cheered it as a hilarious romp. 0.99

00:03:37.340 Yeah.

00:03:38.400 In 1986.

00:03:39.160 So now, here's the good thing is, the good thing, I found out that I'm not a carrier for any kind of, like, genetic diseases,

00:03:45.520 which is great.

00:03:46.720 It's also shocking.

00:03:48.080 I mean, you seem to have every disease I've ever heard of.

00:03:50.400 Yeah, no, I mean, I did look at it and go, I think this, not because of the Native American thing,

00:03:57.040 because that's absolutely real.

00:04:00.300 But the disease thing, you know, no real problems genetically?

00:04:05.280 I don't believe that.

00:04:06.300 I don't believe that for a second.

00:04:07.620 So you'll believe the things that you want to believe out of the DNA report.

00:04:11.080 Maybe.

00:04:12.880 Maybe.

00:04:13.580 OJ did the same thing.

00:04:14.700 He was like, yeah, no, that's not my blood.

00:04:16.440 Sure, that's what the DNA says, but that's not my blood.

00:04:18.360 It worked for him for a while.

00:04:20.520 Maybe that's why my people have a problem with alcoholism.

00:04:24.200 Maybe it is because of the oppression of the white man and you giving us fire water that we can't handle.

00:04:31.500 Maybe that, oh my gosh, I've got to, is there a civil rights attorney? 0.92

00:04:37.720 Is there some, I don't even know who to go, because the white man has oppressed me so much,

00:04:41.760 I don't even know who to reach out to that I could get special status because of the white man's fire water. 0.93

00:04:50.620 It wrecked my life.

00:04:52.740 That's probably why I'm an alcoholic.

00:04:55.080 This is now you achieving the American dream, the new American dream.

00:05:00.020 Of being a victim.

00:05:00.660 Of being a victim.

00:05:01.660 Yes.

00:05:01.800 You've achieved it.

00:05:02.820 Yeah, now it might be a little offensive to some people.

00:05:08.580 White people? 0.82

00:05:11.920 Somebody.

00:05:12.540 There's probably somebody out there that would be offended.

00:05:14.460 I don't know who would be offended by this.

00:05:15.940 I don't know.

00:05:16.500 Do you really?

00:05:17.240 But they're not in my tribe.

00:05:18.300 Right.

00:05:19.400 By the way, I am not Cherokee.

00:05:21.960 I want you to know.

00:05:22.660 I am not Cherokee.

00:05:23.020 I don't know what tribe I am.

00:05:24.820 I suspect, I suspect, only because I come from such a noble line that I am Grand Cherokee.

00:05:34.240 Which either we were named after the Jeep or the Jeep was named after us.

00:05:37.220 I'm not sure.

00:05:37.620 But I believe, I believe I am not Cherokee.

00:05:40.500 I want to make that very clear.

00:05:41.500 I am not part of any Native American tribe.

00:05:44.020 Just because you have a little blood in you.

00:05:45.540 Does not make you Elizabeth Warren.

00:05:47.540 Does not make you a member of a tribe.

00:05:51.600 But I do believe I'm part of the Grand Cherokee tribe.

00:05:55.360 Is that above the normal Cherokee tribe? 1.00

00:05:58.060 I don't want to say that.

00:05:59.460 I wouldn't say that.

00:06:00.440 Some people.

00:06:01.220 It has more features.

00:06:02.320 Some people would say it has more features.

00:06:03.800 It has more features.

00:06:04.540 It has air conditioning.

00:06:05.460 Right.

00:06:05.920 It has air conditioning.

00:06:06.900 And that's, you know, that's an important thing.

00:06:08.540 In our sweat lodges, we don't sweat.

00:06:11.460 We have air conditioning and automatic windows.

00:06:13.760 I don't think it's a sweat lodge if you have air conditioning.

00:06:16.260 Well, it's a sweat lodge because it used to be, you know, everybody used to go in there.

00:06:19.840 But then the Grand Cherokee, you know, when Chief Big Bones got in there, he said, you know what we should do?

00:06:27.260 The great spirit told me, air conditioning and automatic windows.

00:06:32.760 And so we installed electric windows that just go down.

00:06:35.600 You push a button.

00:06:36.180 You're sitting in your seat.

00:06:37.100 Really comfortable.

00:06:37.880 Some come with massage features.

00:06:40.900 And you sit there and you push a little button and the windows go down.

00:06:43.540 We don't want to run the air conditioning because we know better than you, white man, about the environment we care.

00:06:52.100 So we first just roll down the windows with our electric windows.

00:06:55.360 And then in our Grand Cherokee sweat lodge, we'll turn on the air conditioning if it really gets bad.

00:07:00.840 But we will roll the windows back up.

00:07:02.420 Seems to be a little wasteful of energy for someone that loves the earth so much, where you'd open up the windows and run the air conditioning at the same time.

00:07:10.200 Well, we're using green energy.

00:07:12.080 Okay.

00:07:12.640 We're using the power of the power of fire.

00:07:17.220 We're using fire.

00:07:19.560 Fire power?

00:07:20.580 Fire power.

00:07:21.200 Okay.

00:07:21.720 Yeah.

00:07:22.340 Can I, I don't want to be insulting to you and your newly discovered Native American.

00:07:28.620 36 hours.

00:07:29.500 I wouldn't say that's new.

00:07:30.420 I say that is a tradition.

00:07:32.120 I'd say, I say, I say that is a, that is a, that's a, that's a, that's, you're calling my ancestors young?

00:07:38.960 They weren't young.

00:07:39.980 This has been in, this has been coming for thousands of years, perhaps 80 years.

00:07:44.180 We don't know, but it's been a lot longer.

00:07:45.960 But 36 hours is not just yesterday.

00:07:48.820 Well, but when 20 of them were spent sleeping, I mean, that's really not extensive.

00:07:53.180 Well, 36 hours isn't yesterday.

00:07:54.240 You want to claim that 36 hours is yesterday?

00:07:56.560 No, you were not born yesterday.

00:07:58.240 You were born the day before yesterday in this particular example.

00:08:01.880 But did you, was there ever any sign?

00:08:04.440 Look at the oppression.

00:08:05.320 Of this heritage before you got the results from this DNA test?

00:08:09.940 Was there ever any, anything that in the, in your past?

00:08:13.800 No, because the white man took away my way of life.

00:08:16.940 I mean, look, they took, they took the whole Grand Cherokee nation. 1.00

00:08:19.980 And they, they put us on this reservation and they took away our, our way of life.

00:08:25.380 They took away our tamahawk.

00:08:27.240 They took away our bow and knife.

00:08:29.840 They took away my native tongue.

00:08:32.580 Yeah.

00:08:33.620 And then, and then they taught the, you know, English to our young and, and all the beads 0.89

00:08:39.840 we made in, you know, by hand.

00:08:41.620 They're all now made in Japan.

00:08:43.620 You've never made a bead in your life?

00:08:46.520 Cherokee people, Cher, Cherokee tribe.

00:08:48.980 I mean, it's, you mean Grand Cherokee people?

00:08:51.640 Grand Cherokee?

00:08:52.360 You say that?

00:08:53.620 Uh, I like to shorten it sometimes.

00:08:55.380 It's a little more lyrical.

00:08:57.300 Um, you know, but whatever.

00:08:59.480 I mean, Grand Cherokee, Cherokee, you know, uh, you know, so proud to live and so proud

00:09:04.320 to die.

00:09:04.840 I mean, taking advantage of the results of it.

00:09:07.780 You know, they took the entire whole Indian nation and they locked us on this reservation. 1.00

00:09:12.920 And though I wear a shirt and tie, I'm still part red man deep inside.

00:09:17.780 I'm 1.3 red man deep inside.

00:09:20.440 I just want you to know that Grand Cherokee people, Grand Cherokee tribe, so proud to live,

00:09:27.420 so proud to die.

00:09:29.060 So your reservation is Irving, Texas?

00:09:31.120 That was the, uh, the reservation you've been put on?

00:09:33.440 You know, maybe someday, maybe someday when you learn, the Grand Cherokee nation will return.

00:09:39.980 We'll return.

00:09:41.120 We'll return.

00:09:42.120 We'll return.

00:09:43.020 We'll return.

00:09:44.240 Maybe.

00:09:45.300 Now that's a, a, a powerful tale that you tell.

00:09:49.220 Thank you.

00:09:49.780 However, it does seem reminiscent of a song.

00:09:55.300 That your people stole? 1.00

00:09:57.880 Paul Revere and the Raiders?

00:10:00.500 Yeah.

00:10:01.380 Yeah, it might.

00:10:02.080 It might sound a little familiar.

00:10:04.140 Because they stole it.

00:10:05.120 Why don't you just, you know what?

00:10:06.020 I'm going to take a 60 second break.

00:10:07.800 You just wallow in your guilt.

00:10:10.520 Well, look at, oh my gosh, look at.

00:10:14.980 Hang on.

00:10:15.640 I don't know.

00:10:16.900 I get blown.

00:10:18.000 What are you doing to your eye? 0.98

00:10:21.140 I, I, I was just thinking about trash. 0.96

00:10:24.020 And I, you think about what you've done to my nation. 0.99

00:10:28.740 You're blowing into your own eye.

00:10:30.540 It's not working yet.

00:10:31.440 It will.

00:10:32.200 See, that's, I'm only 1.3% Native American. 0.98

00:10:36.660 So if you were a good 2.5%, the tier would just come down every time you thought of trash. 0.98

00:10:40.960 Every time I thought of trash, it would just come right down off my face. 0.92

00:10:43.700 Rafer Weigel is a, a journalist, a reporter from Fox 32 in Chicago.

00:11:01.640 He was brave enough to do the work and actually report on the things that, it's my understanding, most journalists felt in Chicago, most police felt in Chicago, but no one was willing to really step up and pursue it because it was such a political hot potato.

00:11:19.100 So, uh, uh, Rafer, welcome to the program.

00:11:22.080 How are you, sir?

00:11:23.300 Mr. Beck, thank you so much for having me on.

00:11:25.540 And I heard what you said earlier.

00:11:26.840 And I just wanted to tell you that this is a, uh, a personal, uh, personal coup for me having me on your show because, um, my girlfriend's family, they are huge fans of you.

00:11:37.680 And given the fact that I work for the mainstream media, as it were, they've always been kind of looking at me with a side eye.

00:11:42.800 So this is giving me a lot of street cred.

00:11:44.800 That's great.

00:11:45.660 In the clan.

00:11:46.580 So thank you.

00:11:47.280 That's great.

00:11:47.740 So, Rafer, please tell me what, uh, what it was like reporting on this story and what the things were that started really early on.

00:11:59.240 And you couldn't have been the only one who said something's not right here.

00:12:03.980 No, I mean, all of my colleagues in Chicago, the second we heard it said, this doesn't sound right.

00:12:09.200 You look at it.

00:12:09.640 At the end of the day, you know, our job as journalists is to be skeptical and it's the police's job to be skeptical.

00:12:14.500 And, you know, we work with the Chicago police on a daily basis.

00:12:17.920 We know these guys personally.

00:12:19.640 And from the get go, it did not sound right.

00:12:22.200 I mean, for one, you know, the area of the streeterville with, you know, guys in red hats and rope and bleach.

00:12:28.180 And the fact that nobody would have stepped in, there would have been any, no witnesses, nobody would have pulled out a cell phone and taken some videos.

00:12:35.040 So very early on, police went on the record with saying, this doesn't sound right.

00:12:38.680 And we at Fox 32 were very careful to report that the headline was, Jesse Smollett says he was attacked.

00:12:46.320 We didn't know if he was attacked or not.

00:12:48.100 We weren't there.

00:12:49.300 So, you know, for anybody who went with the headline, Jesse Smollett was attacked.

00:12:52.660 I mean, I, you know, I'm no partisan as a journalist.

00:12:55.620 We're supposed to keep it right down the middle.

00:12:57.240 But, I mean, I did retweet at Joe Biden who said, you know, I just said, hey, it might be best to tone down the outrage until we know this actually happened.

00:13:04.560 Because very early on, police said, you know, we've got no evidence that this actually happened.

00:13:09.380 And given that location, I mean, you do have to give credit to the Chicago Police Department and the tech work that they did on that, you know, to now have this guy in custody.

00:13:18.700 But, no, right from the get go, we were skeptical.

00:13:21.660 Okay. So, why were you the, you know, one of the very few, if not the only one, that was really on this story telling the truth?

00:13:31.940 Well, I can't speak for my colleagues.

00:13:33.760 I can tell you that, you know, my managing editor also has a lot of contacts with police, and so do I.

00:13:39.320 And we cross-referenced our sources.

00:13:41.560 You know, she would talk to her guys.

00:13:43.080 I would talk to my guys.

00:13:44.480 And then we would, you know, we would compare notes.

00:13:47.040 And then we'd say, you know, do you feel comfortable going with this?

00:13:49.100 She said, look, they're going, you know, they're giving me solid information that they're not buying this.

00:13:53.440 So, you know, I did go with it.

00:13:55.160 It was, I don't know, some would have said it was a risk, but I didn't consider it a risk because, you know, my sources are solid.

00:14:03.000 I mean, they've never burned me before.

00:14:04.740 So, you know, I think there was other skepticism in the media here in Chicago.

00:14:09.740 I didn't read as much from my colleagues, but early on, you know, they were emphatic with me at TV, my sources, that, look, this is, we're not buying this.

00:14:20.620 And, you know, they said, I can, you know, you can go on the record with me, but just, you know, quote me anonymously.

00:14:26.460 And, you know, we've always heard the debate about anonymous sources, but at the end of the day, anonymous sources are the backbone of journalism.

00:14:31.300 And, you know, there's a lot of criticism from both the right and the left when there's an article coming out quoting anonymous sources, but it works both ways.

00:14:38.840 And in this case, my sources, you know, are reliable.

00:14:42.100 So I felt comfortable sourcing them.

00:14:44.640 I never said Jesse Smollett made it up.

00:14:46.780 I never said he was a liar.

00:14:48.440 I just said, hey, police are skeptical.

00:14:51.380 And, you know, right now there's no evidence to suggest it actually happened.

00:14:55.180 And that was an accurate statement.

00:14:57.040 It wasn't a partisan statement.

00:14:58.280 It's just at this point, there's no evidence to suggest this actually happened.

00:15:02.480 Isn't that what we're supposed to do, not just as journalists, but also as human beings.

00:15:06.660 We're supposed to, say, innocent until proven guilty and say he has alleged this.

00:15:14.760 He says he was.

00:15:16.280 If it is true, it's a horrible thing.

00:15:19.280 But let the police do their work.

00:15:21.680 And when charges are filed and we hear all the details, then maybe we'll be able to come to a conclusion.

00:15:28.920 But we are we're not those we're not those people anymore.

00:15:32.320 You're just automatically either innocent or guilty.

00:15:36.700 And the phrase is you have a right to be believed.

00:15:39.340 No, you have a right to be taken seriously.

00:15:43.020 You don't have a right to be believed.

00:15:44.660 Right.

00:15:46.560 And especially, you know, when you're talking about, you know, something very detailed as this.

00:15:52.000 I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, I agree.

00:15:54.180 I mean, you know, a lot of people this has been a very politicized story.

00:15:59.080 And I think initially on because, you know, I look at I'm in the trenches in the foxhole here.

00:16:03.540 You know, I'm just looking at the specifics.

00:16:05.540 You know, I have no partisan motivation in terms of dissecting a story.

00:16:08.520 I would have done this if it was, you know, anybody else.

00:16:10.520 The police were giving me the same information.

00:16:12.320 And I think maybe I personally underestimated the degree of how much this is going to be politicized on both sides.

00:16:18.240 But a lot of people, you know, now they just they they want the narrative.

00:16:22.500 You know, I was attacked by a Black Lives Matter activist for saying I was giving out misinformation.

00:16:28.520 I just politely said, hey, well, what are your sources?

00:16:31.520 What do you know?

00:16:32.360 If you if you if you know what I'm saying is true, I'd like to hear it.

00:16:36.240 You know, so, yeah, a lot of people wanted this story to fill in a specific narrative on both the right and the left, in my opinion.

00:16:42.380 And all I did was stick to the facts.

00:16:45.180 And and I'm I got to say, it's a little bit odd to be.

00:16:48.700 And I'm so grateful to be on your show, Glenn.

00:16:51.220 But and I've been doing Hannity and Laura Ingram.

00:16:54.100 But for just doing my job is all I did.

00:16:56.920 And I don't know if that's a sad state of my profession, that all I did was my job.

00:17:00.820 And, you know, good people like yourself are acknowledging me for that.

00:17:04.660 You know, I mean, to me, this was nothing more than going in and punching a clock and going to work.

00:17:08.580 But, you know, I'm an old school journalist.

00:17:10.260 I grew up in journalism household.

00:17:12.120 You know, the old ad is, you know, if your mother says she loves you, check it out.

00:17:16.300 I mean, that's just how we're supposed to do our job.

00:17:18.560 Yeah, but we we don't.

00:17:20.900 Are you surprised at how the media has ignored you and this story?

00:17:26.920 I wouldn't say that.

00:17:28.200 I mean, I know that I work for a Fox station.

00:17:30.640 Perhaps that had something to do with why other outlets didn't reach out to me.

00:17:35.660 You know, I'm I'm been reached out to by by conservative outlets and and, you know, mostly on Fox News.

00:17:41.940 They are my parent company.

00:17:42.920 So I think that makes sense.

00:17:44.320 But no, certainly at CNN called or MSNBC called, I would have gone on with them as well.

00:17:49.740 You know, so I think the biggest thing I'm more concerned about is I hope this is a little bit of a wake up call just because, you know,

00:17:55.620 so many people went with the headline that this was true early on without getting more information on the national media.

00:18:02.720 And that surprised me.

00:18:04.100 I'll be honest.

00:18:04.800 I was I'm usually a huge defender of my profession.

00:18:08.000 We're constantly under siege.

00:18:10.020 And, you know, I used to say the media is not liberal.

00:18:12.840 It's just lazy.

00:18:14.140 And, you know, I don't know if this is an example of that or or or political bias, but it was incorrect.

00:18:21.480 So, I mean, I just hope that, you know, other of my colleagues and I'm not trying to get on a soapbox here and act like I'm, you know, I feel bad talking this way.

00:18:31.260 But, you know, at the end of the day, you got it.

00:18:33.540 You got to check the facts before you run to the headline.

00:18:35.760 Sorry, Rafer Weigel of Fox 32 Chicago.

00:18:38.380 Rafer, I think, is there a possibility that this combined with several other cases in recent memory where the initial narrative had changed so quickly and we see something that couldn't possibly be a hoax turn into a hoax potentially here?

00:18:54.040 I think there was a there's been a pattern over the past few years where we've we've used that, you know, journalists always will use the word allegedly or at least are supposed to in a case like this.

00:19:03.080 But it almost becomes like a disclaimer.

00:19:05.660 It's like you throw it in there because, you know, you have to.

00:19:09.340 Shouldn't we be approaching every story?

00:19:11.860 This is whether a conservative says it, whether a liberal says it, white or black, anything with a real sense of skepticism or at least an inquisitive sense?

00:19:20.360 Because if we don't, we can get burned like so many in the media did.

00:19:23.300 But this is journalism 101, what you described.

00:19:26.620 I mean, and that's the journalism that I was taught is you have to be skeptical.

00:19:32.360 So, I mean, yeah, the Covington boys.

00:19:33.960 I mean, that was another example.

00:19:35.220 And, you know, I mean, it's like we don't need any more knocks on my profession for being perceived as being, you know, biased when things like this happen.

00:19:44.400 You know, yeah, you have to show restraint.

00:19:46.300 You just have to stick with the who, what, when, where, why.

00:19:48.720 I don't know if it's because now there's so many different media outlets and with social media and so forth that people are I don't know, maybe they're fishing for clicks.

00:19:57.380 I'm not sure.

00:19:58.080 But at the end of the day, yes, you're 100 percent right.

00:20:01.800 I hope this is, I mean, my journalism professor, you know, who's probably very liberal, was the one who instilled these values in me.

00:20:10.280 You know, so and so did my parents.

00:20:13.620 I'm, you know, I just hope that people are a little more responsible kind of going forward, you know, as far as this stuff goes.

00:20:19.880 So, Rafer, let me ask you one quick question.

00:20:22.680 I take a break and then I'd like to get an update on the other side on what the latest is.

00:20:26.260 But is there any truth to the idea that the police knew who these two guys were and they either they were they were waiting for Jesse to to walk into the trap or they were going to just kind of let this go until he went on Good Morning America and said, yes, that's them.

00:20:48.980 And I don't know why everybody's calling me liar, but we have heard that Rahm Emanuel was outraged by that and everybody in Chicago was outraged by that, that really we're just going to kind of be cool about it.

00:21:00.680 And that changed things.

00:21:02.700 We've also heard that they knew who these guys were and they were waiting for him to make a positive I.D.

00:21:09.260 And the minute he did, that's when the case broke or either of those true.

00:21:12.680 Well, it's actually just a coincidence.

00:21:15.480 They didn't know he was going to go on Good Morning America.

00:21:17.720 And apparently that interview cannot be, according to my detectives, that cannot be used as evidence.

00:21:23.340 It's only what he tells them in a police interview.

00:21:27.120 The police rolled this, but it wasn't because they wanted to let Smola hang himself.

00:21:31.780 They did it because they knew they knew who these two guys were, that the Nigerian, the brothers of Nigerian descent.

00:21:37.160 They are from Chicago.

00:21:38.160 So I'll be clear on that.

00:21:39.000 But they left town hours after this incident and they went to Nigeria for two weeks.

00:21:44.880 So the real motivation behind police, you're going slowly on this, is they waited for these guys to get back in town.

00:21:51.160 They were at O'Hare Airport waiting for them when they got off the plane.

00:21:55.640 That's why.

00:21:56.140 And it happened to be the same day he was on Good Morning America.

00:21:59.980 Yes.

00:22:00.520 What a coincidence.

00:22:03.320 That's amazing.

00:22:04.140 Wow.

00:22:04.480 Okay.

00:22:05.240 Be back with Rafer Weigel.

00:22:06.880 I want to get the update because he has now been arrested.

00:22:10.280 Has he been arrested?

00:22:11.500 Yeah.

00:22:11.760 Jussie?

00:22:12.180 Fox 32 reporter from Chicago, Rafer Weigel, the guy who really broke this story and refused to give up on it.

00:22:20.660 And the reason why we pretty much know it and was questioning from the beginning.

00:22:27.400 Tell us what is happening with the Jussie Smollett case now.

00:22:31.000 What's happened in the last 24 hours?

00:22:33.600 Well, it was an interesting day yesterday.

00:22:35.460 So in the morning, Jussie Smollett's lawyers went in to talk with police.

00:22:39.180 They tried to negotiate some kind of an agreement.

00:22:41.440 No agreement was made.

00:22:43.400 And so the grand jury was put in play by the assistant state's attorney.

00:22:48.580 What kind of a deal were they looking for?

00:22:51.840 I have no idea.

00:22:53.680 I have no idea what they could have possibly been trying to, you know, maybe clean down, perhaps.

00:23:00.000 You know, it would just be speculation.

00:23:01.580 But once the grand jury was put in play, they brought in the two brothers.

00:23:05.100 They testified for two and a half hours, according to their attorney.

00:23:08.560 And then they got the warrant issued for his arrest.

00:23:11.960 He turned himself in this morning with his attorneys.

00:23:14.980 They spoke with his attorneys last night.

00:23:17.340 They negotiated his surrender.

00:23:18.620 He came in at 5 o'clock this morning, was processed, fingerprinted, and now is being held by the Cook County Courthouse by the Cook County Sheriff.

00:23:27.540 He's in a separate detention area.

00:23:30.120 As they said, that's common for high-profile detainees.

00:23:33.300 The Chicago police are coming down really hard on this guy.

00:23:35.700 I mean, the superintendent, Eddie Johnson, just says, you know, what the guy did essentially was shameful.

00:23:41.180 The police are describing how, I mean, these two men who allegedly, you know, whatever, these two Nigerian brothers who were in on this or somehow, you know, met with Millett at the time,

00:23:51.740 they were able to track their every move on security cameras to the cab they got into, and they were able to follow the cab to their home.

00:24:00.200 I mean, they combed through every single hour of video and tracked a cab, and this was a good two-mile ride for this cab, and they got it.

00:24:11.120 I mean, that's how they found out where these guys live.

00:24:13.040 That's how they found out who they were.

00:24:15.080 So, I mean, they have a mountain of evidence against Jesse Smollett.

00:24:20.020 Now, what they don't have is the attack.

00:24:22.560 That's the thing.

00:24:23.320 I mean, that's the irony of it is that, you know, if he did do this and he wanted to get it on camera, they did it in the one place where there was no video surveillance of it.

00:24:31.480 So, at this point, Smollett is not disputing that there was an attack.

00:24:35.400 Because of the leaks in the Chicago PD, he knows his defense.

00:24:38.260 He knows what he needs to be going against, and it's his word against theirs now.

00:24:41.160 They're saying, you know, that he put them up to this, that he orchestrated this hoax.

00:24:45.260 He's saying, no, these guys just randomly attacked me, and I didn't put them up to anything.

00:24:48.780 So, that's kind of where things are going to go.

00:24:52.440 And Smollett's legal team, you know, they released a statement.

00:24:55.400 They're mounting an aggressive defense.

00:24:57.140 They're going to fight this thing, you know, and go 12 rounds.

00:25:00.140 I think they have to.

00:25:01.240 I mean, the police, you have to put a stop to this, or the police are going to spend all of their time chasing down fake claims.

00:25:08.560 There has to be a heavy penalty paid for this kind of stuff.

00:25:14.000 And too many times, people are just let go, or they pay a fine.

00:25:16.960 This is, I personally, I think this is a hate crime.

00:25:21.440 He obviously, he obviously hated people so much that he wanted to smear them, whether that was Donald Trump or whatever.

00:25:28.620 But is there any truth to the fact that this was motivated by his career, that he wrote the letter, that original letter, that, you know, was hateful towards him?

00:25:41.260 And I read last night that he was upset that there wasn't more of an outcry just on that letter that he allegedly had sent.

00:25:49.060 Are they looking into that?

00:25:50.760 Absolutely.

00:25:51.420 Now, I mean, I couldn't begin to speculate into Jesse Smollett's motivation if he did orchestrate this whole thing, why he would have done it.

00:25:58.740 You know, obviously, it was an attention-grabbing, you know.

00:26:02.600 If, in fact, he did orchestrate this hoax, it was obviously an attention-grabbing thing.

00:26:06.920 As far as the letter, though, that's key.

00:26:08.800 And a lot of people are losing sight of that.

00:26:10.480 See, the FBI and the U.S. Postal Service, they are investigating that separately.

00:26:15.900 That is federal time.

00:26:18.260 That is potential terrorism charges and mail fraud.

00:26:23.460 And there are no leaks coming out of that investigation.

00:26:26.340 So Chicago police right now, they're doing this.

00:26:28.580 It's a class-4 felony he's being charged with for filing a police report, and that's also disorderly conduct.

00:26:35.280 That's one of three years in prison, potentially.

00:26:37.180 This letter is where the real trouble could come in for Smollett.

00:26:42.640 Shockingly, the one thing you don't mess with is the post office.

00:26:45.720 Hang on, there is breaking news on this, Stu.

00:26:47.640 Yeah, this is just coming down from the Associated Press and Washington Post, among others,

00:26:50.640 that the police are saying that Jussie Smollett did send himself the racist and homophobic letter

00:26:55.540 because he was dissatisfied with his salary on Empire.

00:26:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:59.420 Now, this is just an accusation.

00:27:00.880 As far as I know, he's not admitted this, but this is just coming down in the last couple minutes.

00:27:04.760 Do you have any idea, Rafer, what that would add to a sentence if the post office got involved?

00:27:11.500 Oh, man.

00:27:12.100 I mean, that's, again, that's federal.

00:27:15.480 Yeah.

00:27:16.080 I mean, you'd have to ask a legal expert on that.

00:27:18.760 That's real time.

00:27:19.680 I mean, that's not something you're going to negotiate down.

00:27:22.400 And I think that's, you know, I think that's going to be, you know, we'll see where this one plays out in terms of Chicago police

00:27:28.100 and the false police report, what your colleague just said with the Associated Press is reporting, you know,

00:27:33.380 as my guys at PD have told me.

00:27:35.060 That's a real problem for Jussie Smollett, potentially.

00:27:37.780 Rafer, thank you so much.

00:27:39.040 Great job.

00:27:39.700 Great job.

00:27:40.420 And please keep us informed and up to date on any new developments.

00:27:43.960 Appreciate it.

00:27:44.600 Rafer Weigel from Fox 32 in Chicago.

00:27:48.120 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:28:03.400 Hi, it's Glenn.

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00:28:15.680 This weekend is the first day of mourning, and I think we should have more of these. 1.00

00:28:21.000 I want you to go to dayofmourning.org, mourning spelled with a U, mourning and asking for forgiveness

00:28:27.280 for all of the deaths that have been caused through abortion and all of us who have sat

00:28:32.720 by idly and not said anything, in my case, because, to my shame, I'm carrying enough water,

00:28:40.120 I can't carry that one too.

00:28:41.780 I wish I would have never said those things, because things on life revolving around life

00:28:48.260 are getting worse and worse, and it seems daily.

00:28:51.980 We have Senator Ben Sasse with us, representing the great state of Nebraska.

00:28:56.600 He has, the Democrats blocked him when he said, 0.92

00:29:01.200 I want just an up or down vote on whether we kill children after they have been born.

00:29:07.520 One of the senators blocked that from happening, so he got together and put together the Born

00:29:13.100 Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.

00:29:15.520 It comes up for a vote on Monday.

00:29:17.880 Welcome to the program, Ben Sasse.

00:29:20.360 Glenn, good to be with you.

00:29:21.620 Thanks for the invite.

00:29:22.380 You bet.

00:29:22.800 So tell me what this prevents and what you think is going to happen.

00:29:29.920 Well, so first of all, I'm as pro-life as anybody comes in the U.S. Senate.

00:29:35.020 I'm an original co-sponsor of all the pro-life legislation, but this really isn't about that.

00:29:40.100 This is about babies that survive an abortion.

00:29:43.380 This is really a vote Monday night about infanticide.

00:29:47.140 So I've been the lead sponsor for three years of the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.

00:29:53.420 There's this phenomenon where when babies survive an abortion, doctors don't proactively kill them,

00:30:00.620 but they passively back away from the table and allow the babies to die of exposure.

00:30:06.460 I mean, it is clear infanticide.

00:30:08.620 And to your point, Ron.

00:30:09.920 I'm sorry.

00:30:10.460 I remember a story a few years ago in Chicago where they were putting babies in the closet.

00:30:15.780 Yeah.

00:30:16.260 Yeah, some of these places have a room for this where they just move the baby to die 0.99

00:30:22.080 as she's on a cold table struggling for life.

00:30:25.700 I mean, if equality and an American belief in universal human dignity mean anything,

00:30:32.600 they surely mean that a baby that's fighting for life has rights and dignity and is an image bearer

00:30:38.900 and we have a moral obligation to provide some care.

00:30:41.000 So that's really all this is about is once a baby has already survived a botched abortion,

00:30:46.260 do you have to provide care for it, the same level of care you provide for any other baby at that stage,

00:30:51.000 or can you kill it by exposure?

00:30:53.180 And bizarrely, there are states that are actively having this as a debate right now.

00:30:57.880 So you say you've sponsored this for three years.

00:31:01.080 Has it been rejected or has it never gotten a vote?

00:31:03.320 It hadn't gotten a vote before.

00:31:06.040 And then after what has happened in New York and Virginia over the last month,

00:31:10.920 I pushed to get it more floor time.

00:31:13.040 I've been pushing in the past to get a recorded vote.

00:31:15.160 But as you know, the vast majority of whatever gets accomplished in the U.S. Senate gets accomplished 100 to 0 by unanimous consent.

00:31:22.620 Senators work out their disagreements for weeks or months or years in private.

00:31:26.480 And then you bring something to the floor and you say, you know, Mr. President, Madam President,

00:31:30.720 I believe we have unanimous consent.

00:31:32.320 Everybody agrees we should pass this.

00:31:34.120 Condemning infanticide should be done that way.

00:31:36.740 It shouldn't need a recorded vote, but we need one now because a Democrat from Washington state has decided to block us from a unanimous consent passage.

00:31:45.220 But this is sort of triggered in the public mind by what happened in New York and Virginia over the last month, where in New York, Governor Cuomo lit up the World Trade Center site in pink to celebrate pro-abortion legislation that repealed protections for an infant that had been born alive during an abortion.

00:32:03.340 So at the moment of birth, they were stripping away protections and New York decides to celebrate it by lighting up the World Trade Center area in pink, which has historically been the color to celebrate the persistence and grit of women who beat breast cancer.

00:32:18.160 I mean, literally, the color was a symbolic color celebrating life.

00:32:22.200 And now they decided to reverse it and use it to celebrate death.

00:32:25.680 It's really perverse.

00:32:27.080 And then in Virginia, the disgraced governor there, Northam, obviously has massive problems with human dignity across a whole bunch of dimensions.

00:32:35.720 He's been on the radio defending infanticide.

00:32:39.160 And so it became an opportunity to try to focus the public mind a little bit.

00:32:42.800 And happily, we've been able to get through all the procedural hurdles that we get a floor vote next Monday night.

00:32:47.760 So what do you think is going to happen?

00:32:49.400 I think that the abortion zealotry industry has decided to try to intimidate a bunch of Democratic senators.

00:32:59.620 And I honestly don't know what the vote's going to be.

00:33:01.920 I know we're going to have a bunch of people opposing it now.

00:33:04.400 A number of quasi-public health organizations, many of them really just abortion advocacy groups, have put out a letter condemning this Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act as getting in the way of private health care decisions.

00:33:22.900 We're talking about babies that have actually been born alive and are on a table fighting for life, trying to cry and breathe and want food and warmth.

00:33:31.100 And they're saying that's a private decision, which is truly bizarre.

00:33:35.980 So I can't tell you what the vote's going to be. 0.87

00:33:38.440 But the decision you made was to kill it. 0.98

00:33:41.960 Okay, now it's no longer in your body. 0.99

00:33:45.000 If you don't want that baby because you said kill it, that is an individual now that should be mandated to go to an adoption agency. 0.54

00:33:54.760 I mean, you have to preserve that life.

00:33:57.760 It's no longer connected to mom.

00:33:59.480 So mom has no right to that baby if she said she wanted it killed. 1.00

00:34:04.660 I mean, does she?

00:34:06.680 We're talking about something pretty basic here.

00:34:08.720 I mean, everybody, this shouldn't be politics.

00:34:10.680 This shouldn't be right versus left.

00:34:12.080 We're talking about do you have a heart?

00:34:13.540 And, I mean, I think it's important to have some historical memory on this.

00:34:17.580 Infanticide has been a practice through lots of human history.

00:34:20.400 It's gross and repugnant, and we should be well better than that.

00:34:25.420 But the ancient Aztecs, the ancient Greeks, they would kill kids that were regarded as undesirable by exposure. 0.98

00:34:32.260 You'd take a 12-month-old baby and decide we don't want this one anymore. 0.97

00:34:36.300 She's got X problem or Y problem. 1.00

00:34:38.480 Let's go leave them on the mountainside in the cold to die. 0.96

00:34:41.960 That is really the practice we're talking about here. 0.95

00:34:45.500 I'm sorry to interrupt.

00:34:46.840 It's one of the main things that happened with the Romans and the Christians. 0.99

00:34:50.500 The Christians looked so bizarre because Romans would have babies, and they'd throw them on a garbage barge, and they would just die from exposure. 1.00

00:34:57.900 And the Christians felt that was wrong, and they would go get those children out of the garbage barges and take them and care for them. 0.99

00:35:06.220 Yeah.

00:35:06.900 We have a culture that claims to believe in universal human dignity.

00:35:12.700 We believe kids are image bearers.

00:35:14.540 We believe they have worth and value.

00:35:17.420 And, you know, the Senate is a weird place.

00:35:19.940 I'm one of eight people out of the hundred there who's never been a politician before.

00:35:23.360 There isn't a piece of legislation that will be introduced where somebody won't claim.

00:35:27.940 You have to be for it because you're fighting for the poorest and the most vulnerable among us.

00:35:32.160 And it feels like half of the Senate Democratic caucus is running for president right now.

00:35:36.160 And they're constantly out there telling people they fight for the little guy.

00:35:39.420 Well, here's a chance to actually prove it.

00:35:41.660 Fight for the little guy and the little gal. 0.98

00:35:43.520 I mean, we are literally talking about the poorest and weakest and most vulnerable among us.

00:35:47.640 When these babies are fighting for life on a cold table, you don't back away.

00:35:52.220 You provide care and comfort.

00:35:54.880 Senator, we have about one minute.

00:35:55.880 Is there any way that Democrats could say, well, this does more than just save babies that have been born?

00:36:01.900 There's a slippery slope here and we see what they're trying to do.

00:36:04.520 Is there any legitimate complaint that they can have over this bill?

00:36:07.940 Or is it clear?

00:36:08.660 No.

00:36:09.320 No, it's clear.

00:36:10.120 There's no legitimate complaint.

00:36:12.040 But the distinction they're trying to draw is that you don't need a bill to prohibit infanticide because we already have laws to prohibit murder.

00:36:18.840 And so the distinction they're trying to weasel around is saying nobody is taking a baby that survives an abortion and taking a pillow and putting it over her face and actively suffocating her to death.

00:36:29.920 We're just backing away from the table and allowing the baby to die on her own.

00:36:34.400 Under this logic, you can kill 12-month-olds the same way. 0.99

00:36:37.120 And you can also kill people like Terri Schiavo the same way. 0.98

00:36:39.940 We're not killing her. 0.80

00:36:41.140 We're just not giving her any food. 1.00

00:36:42.940 We're just letting her die.

00:36:44.940 I mean, it always happens on both ends of the spectrum.

00:36:47.600 And we're seeing the result of this evil, evil practice and doctors that are not living their oath.

00:36:57.300 Senator Ben Sash.

00:36:58.360 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:15.840 A contributor to Young Voices and a Venezuela expatriate.

00:37:20.880 His name is Daniel DiMartino.

00:37:23.160 He was born and raised in Venezuela, where he went to high school and saw the the wonderful experiences and consequences of socialism.

00:37:32.740 In 2016, he left Venezuela to go to college at Indiana University, Purdue in Indianapolis.

00:37:39.680 He is a junior majoring in quantitative economics.

00:37:43.420 He writes and talks about economics and politics, specifically the importance of freedom, taxes, regulations and internal affairs.

00:37:51.820 Welcome to the program, Daniel DiMartino.

00:37:56.020 Hi, Glenn.

00:37:56.860 Thank you for having me.

00:37:57.800 You bet.

00:37:58.240 First of all, how is your family?

00:37:59.620 You still have family back in Venezuela?

00:38:02.000 I do have a lot of extended family and friends.

00:38:04.580 My parents and my grandparents, they thankfully left at the end of 2017 and now they live in Spain.

00:38:11.400 What is life like now in Venezuela?

00:38:15.360 It is very, very terrible.

00:38:17.420 You can hear it, you can look at it on videos and I can tell it to you from first-hand experience that I suffered constant blackouts.

00:38:28.000 I had to make lines for hours of food.

00:38:30.320 I had to, well, don't even think about getting sick.

00:38:33.160 Thankfully, I was young and healthy, but many of my friends who got sick, then they got terrible treatment in the hospitals because there was just no medicine to treat them with.

00:38:41.480 Now, people will say that this is just Maduro because he's not doing socialism right, that things were different under Chavez.

00:38:50.660 He did it right.

00:38:52.280 True or false?

00:38:52.800 Well, completely false.

00:38:55.300 I suffer from blackouts and water shortages and food shortages from way before Maduro, definitely with Chavez.

00:39:01.820 And it is Chavez who implemented the policies that took us here, of course, and that have accumulated in their mistakes.

00:39:09.900 Chavez was the one who took away the electricity, water, oil industries from the private hands and nationalized them.

00:39:18.380 He's the one who hired masses and masses of government employees just to get their votes.

00:39:23.420 And he's also the person who, with all this government control, started using it to bribe people, to steal money.

00:39:33.000 It was just terrible.

00:39:34.340 So as you hear our politicians here talk about socialism, they always try to tell us, we want Sweden.

00:39:42.880 But Sweden is not a socialist country.

00:39:45.240 It's a capitalist country with a giant welfare net.

00:39:47.800 But tell me the difference and tell me what you feel when you watch the Democratic Party and half of America start to embrace socialism.

00:39:59.420 Is what they're saying different than what you heard politicians in Venezuela say?

00:40:05.200 It is not different at all, Glenn.

00:40:06.980 And let me tell you what is a very, very key difference between what would be Sweden's and their proposals of the Democrat socialists here.

00:40:15.440 They want to expand the welfare state in America, yes.

00:40:18.820 But they want to expand it even beyond what Sweden has.

00:40:21.560 They want to increase taxes even beyond what Sweden has.

00:40:24.400 And even worse, they're not even going to be able to raise enough tax revenue for all their proposals.

00:40:30.060 Sweden is a very fiscally responsible country, Glenn.

00:40:33.460 Like, their debt is under control.

00:40:35.800 They don't have a large budget deficit like the United States.

00:40:38.520 So if the Democrats really don't want to turn the United States into Venezuela by having to print money and create hyperinflation, then they will have to tell Americans the truth.

00:40:49.060 They want to tax poor people at 50, 60, and 70 percent rates, not just the rich.

00:40:57.080 You are going to college now.

00:40:59.840 You're a junior in college.

00:41:01.220 I imagine that you meet a lot of young socialists.

00:41:06.960 That is the, that's the rage right now.

00:41:10.200 Can you tell us what the attraction is to people your age, to socialism?

00:41:16.220 And when you talk to them, what is the aha moment?

00:41:19.700 What is the thing that you say or start to discuss where they listen and go, oh, wait a minute?

00:41:25.700 Yeah, they, they do understand what's going on in Venezuela once they hear from somebody who's actually from, from Venezuela, in my experience.

00:41:36.080 I think that they believe that, you know, the Chavez, like you were saying, was a good person and Maduro was not.

00:41:42.740 But when you actually explain them what's going on, they do change their minds.

00:41:46.060 Most of them, some of them are just, I would say, lost.

00:41:48.900 But most of them do change their minds and they're not radicals.

00:41:53.140 And I don't think most Americans are radicals, but that's why we need to, to spread the word this way. 0.95

00:41:58.060 And, you know, that's why I think that Venezuelans and victims of communism around the world are playing a very key role in the United States to fight against these lives of the Democrats.

00:42:09.520 If we didn't have people who experienced socialism, how would we be able to, to fight it here, you know?

00:42:15.120 But are you making a difference in your age group?

00:42:18.460 I mean, what are the things that you say that, and if there are any, teach us how to speak to a millennial about socialism?

00:42:28.980 I tell them about the facts in Venezuela.

00:42:33.780 That socialism doesn't lead us to equality, which is what they want.

00:42:37.920 And you have to speak to people relating to their goals.

00:42:41.120 It's going to be basically impossible to change somebody's values or inherent goals for their society, for their perfect ideal society.

00:42:49.780 Well, the reality is that socialist societies are not equal at all.

00:42:52.980 They're even more unequal than capitalist society.

00:42:55.400 Right.

00:42:55.620 So, but Daniel, you have to understand, at least in my opinion, that capitalism has never been about equality.

00:43:03.740 It's not.

00:43:05.080 It's about the free market.

00:43:07.780 It's about each individual.

00:43:08.900 So it's, it does create an unequal society.

00:43:13.460 However, socialism, as you just pointed out, also creates, but they always say, well, that's because it wasn't done right.

00:43:20.740 But it also always creates an unequal standard of living.

00:43:27.340 Even if it was run honestly, it would, the equality would be misery. 0.56

00:43:34.700 That, it is true.

00:43:36.100 It is true that capitalism's goal is not equality, and I'm not saying that that's my goal either.

00:43:41.120 Right.

00:43:41.340 But I'm saying that it's, it's very hard to, to persuade somebody on one conversation and tell them that, you know, they need to change completely their worldview.

00:43:50.740 I think it's basically impossible.

00:43:52.800 So what I do think is that you can persuade millennials, and that's what I've done, by telling them the truth.

00:43:59.820 Nobody will ever implement your ideas perfectly, just like there are still subsidies, just like there's still government intervention in free market societies like the U.S. or Hong Kong and any other country.

00:44:12.180 So if we want to live in a near livable world, then we need to live in a country of freedom and that still allows for inequality.

00:44:20.740 What does, what does this mean to you and to your family when you see America teetering this close?

00:44:32.760 We have never, ever been this close to losing the free market from the inside.

00:44:40.800 Yes.

00:44:41.260 What does this mean?

00:44:41.840 It is scary.

00:44:42.900 It is scary, Glenn.

00:44:44.140 I came to the United States specifically because of my university that sponsored me, of course.

00:44:49.340 But I could have gone to, you know, to Spain with my parents, but I didn't because I think that the United States is a country where I thought, and I still think, though, that it is less likely for socialism to be implemented in the U.S.

00:45:03.160 and in any other country in the world.

00:45:05.080 It is like Ronald Reagan said at The Shining City on a Hill.

00:45:08.860 And the only way to keep it that way is for us to fight against this murderous ideology, not just here in the United States, but everywhere around the world,

00:45:19.480 because Venezuela is exporting this ideology by funding socialist movements abroad, in Europe specifically.

00:45:25.680 You have several Dallas Cowboy Stadiums full of people listening to you right now.

00:45:33.380 What should Americans know that you think maybe we don't know or understand?

00:45:40.360 That the only—no country is safe from false promises and the lure for false promises,

00:45:48.900 and that not every measure that the left will propose will take us to Venezuela,

00:45:55.780 but little by little, taking away our freedoms, they are going to eventually lead us into a terrible society,

00:46:03.060 a society that is stagnated like in Europe, or even worse, a society that is in decline like in Venezuela.

00:46:08.860 So we need to do everything we can to vote, to protect, to speak out in favor of freedom.

00:46:15.260 That means lower taxes, that means responsible government, that means freedom to immigrate, freedom to trade,

00:46:24.120 all these freedoms that are necessary for a country to stay free.

00:46:29.540 When you hear people talk about, in America, oppression and, oh, my life has been so tough,

00:46:35.620 is that hard for you to sit through and listen to?

00:46:40.280 It's a little laughable, to be honest.

00:46:42.240 I understand that some people—like, everyone goes through very difficult things.

00:46:46.700 Yeah.

00:46:47.140 But I've had people, I've had even college professors tell me that what's going on in Venezuela,

00:46:53.100 it's not worse than what the low-income individuals in the United States go through.

00:46:59.320 And it's real laughable because the United States, yes, it has poverty,

00:47:03.280 but poor people in the United States even have internet, electricity, water.

00:47:07.020 That's not what happens in Venezuela, right?

00:47:10.040 Right.

00:47:10.640 People are starving in Venezuela.

00:47:13.240 How can we help the people of Venezuela?

00:47:17.360 What's the best thing we can do?

00:47:19.200 The best thing the United States can do is, in part, what it's currently doing.

00:47:24.180 President Trump is taking the right actions by leading the world in pressuring Maduro to get out.

00:47:29.340 And what's the best thing that we can do as individuals?

00:47:32.560 As individuals, we need to advocate first for that not to be implemented in the United States,

00:47:40.620 but also we need to advocate so that—and support President Trump's actions.

00:47:45.700 There are congresspeople in the United States, such as Ilhan Omar, Tulsi Gabbard,

00:47:50.540 who are spreading lies about Venezuela, Glenn.

00:47:53.080 They're saying that we, the opposition, are some kind of far-right-armed group,

00:47:57.800 like if we were terrorists, when in reality we have a regime that is killing us

00:48:03.240 and starving us purposefully, a genocide.

00:48:06.080 So what we need to do is support the change of regime in Venezuela

00:48:11.280 with our Democratic president, who is Juan Guaido,

00:48:14.260 and push the countries in the region to take even more forceful action

00:48:18.640 so that Maduro can get out.

00:48:20.680 Daniel DiMartino, thank you so much.

00:48:23.500 I'm glad you're here in America.

00:48:25.780 I'm glad your family is safe.

00:48:27.400 We pray for your country of Venezuela.

00:48:31.540 Thank you, and I hope to talk to you again.

00:48:33.660 Daniel DiMartino, he is a contributor from Young Voices

00:48:36.720 and a Venezuelan expatriate.

00:48:38.960 You can follow him on Twitter, at Daniel DiMartino.

00:48:43.080 You can also find him at young-voices.com.

00:48:50.740 That's young-voices.com.

00:48:53.220 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:49:00.860 Eric Early, he is an attorney.

00:49:04.320 He is actually a managing partner at his firm that is usually involved in really complex litigation matters,

00:49:14.620 focusing on business, entertainment, real estate, title, escrow-related litigation, yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:49:22.260 But he also is involved in a case in California that everyone should be paying attention to.

00:49:31.520 Very clear-cut on the outset, but he is fighting HYDRA. 0.88

00:49:39.060 His clients are suing to block inclusivity teaching in the schools in California.

00:49:51.360 And Eric joins us to tell about it right now.

00:49:53.900 Hello, Eric.

00:49:54.440 How are you?

00:49:55.520 I'm good, Glenn.

00:49:56.480 Thanks for having me.

00:49:57.300 You bet.

00:49:58.180 All right.

00:49:58.480 So the parents, they don't want to be inclusive.

00:50:02.340 How hate-mongering of them.

00:50:04.740 Yeah, they are so hate-mongering.

00:50:08.720 This outfit, I was contacted about a couple months ago by a group of concerned citizens in Santa Barbara, California.

00:50:17.220 They knew that I had run for California attorney general as a Republican.

00:50:22.160 I had gotten almost a million votes.

00:50:24.300 I had never run for public office before.

00:50:26.860 And they contacted me, and they said, listen, we have a problem up here, and we need some help.

00:50:32.720 And they told me the story that they had learned right about that time.

00:50:36.940 A parent and a teacher had gone to one of these programs where they were supposed to learn about implicit bias training.

00:50:45.360 And they were told they soon were separated out because they were white.

00:50:51.580 They were separated out into a group separate from all the other parents there.

00:50:55.980 And they started being told how they were racist.

00:51:00.400 Meanwhile, the people teaching this class had never seen them before, didn't know them.

00:51:04.900 The parents said, what are you talking about?

00:51:06.360 We're not racist.

00:51:07.260 The more they try and fight back, the more they were attacked by these people so-called doing the teaching.

00:51:13.400 So what this has amounted to is that the Santa Barbara Unified School District has hired a group called Just Communities Central Coast.

00:51:22.640 And they've been working with this Just Communities group for several years now, paid them more than a million dollars in taxpayer funds.

00:51:30.460 And this group goes in and indoctrinates the teachers and the students.

00:51:34.320 And their programming is just outrageous.

00:51:36.520 So a nonprofit called Fair Education Santa Barbara was formed by these concerned parents.

00:51:45.480 And we recently filed a lawsuit on their behalf in federal court here in Los Angeles against both the school district and this Just Communities outfit.

00:51:55.000 It is amazing, Eric, is it not, how things have flipped?

00:51:59.100 It's like we're back in the 1950s, except white is black and black is white. 0.51

00:52:04.360 I mean, that's a very good point.

00:52:06.940 And things have totally flipped.

00:52:09.300 And one of the ironies of our cases is that we are bringing the case based on constitutional or statutes based on the U.S. Constitution that were put in place to protect minorities such as blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc.

00:52:27.900 Now we're relying on those statutes to protect white people. 0.89

00:52:32.740 When you talk about inclusivity training, what exactly are they teaching?

00:52:39.440 Because they would make the argument, well, of course, it's good to be inclusive.

00:52:42.660 Of course, these things are OK.

00:52:44.160 What exactly are they teaching here?

00:52:46.500 Well, just just stepping back a second, this this this so-called implicit bias training is being taught all over the place now.

00:52:54.400 It's it's required sort of education for federal workers ever since sort of a an executive order came down during the Obama administration as being taught more and more in schools.

00:53:07.420 So implicit bias training in and of itself is is basically becoming the norm, whether you like it or not.

00:53:14.440 The problem with this group is it goes way beyond the pale of your standard implicit bias training and is here.

00:53:24.820 Let me read you something right from one of the documents that these parents gave us, which we've attached our complaint.

00:53:31.680 It's called forms of oppression.

00:53:32.980 And it's a it's a chart and in the left column, it says form of oppression and it uses and it says underneath that racism.

00:53:40.700 And then just to the right of that, there's a column says privilege group says white people in the target group.

00:53:47.020 It says it says people of color go back to the form of oppression column.

00:53:51.860 It says religious oppression, privilege group, Christian people, target group, all others.

00:53:57.960 So this is the kind of this is the kind of insanity that's being taught to the kids of the Santa Barbara Unified School District.

00:54:05.940 And most of the parents out there we've spoken to had no clue this was going on in the schools.

00:54:10.660 Wow. How your kid would have to come back if you're talking to your kid, they would have to come back and say some of this stuff to you.

00:54:19.200 Well, that's how some of these people have been finding out about it.

00:54:23.700 And and I've spoken to one parent and he had I thought it was a great suggestion.

00:54:28.560 He said, you know, we have to sign a permission slip for our kids to go on a field trip and we should have to sign a permission slip.

00:54:38.500 If we want our kids, our young kids to sit through this kind of training.

00:54:44.860 But of course, the school district basically keeps it under wraps.

00:54:49.840 They'll say they don't keep it under wraps, but but they basically do.

00:54:54.780 And and so now thanks to our lawsuit, thanks to the attention this is getting in Santa Barbara, people are becoming aware of it.

00:55:02.300 Another thing that we learned in this case that people are also becoming aware of is the the school board up there, which hires which hires this group and is so enamored with this just communities group is is made up mostly of of the same what I call, you know, alt left social warrior types.

00:55:22.040 It's it's really, really, really troubling.

00:55:24.580 And this is just another example of how this creeping, you know, Alinsky esque kind of programming has been going through the schools.

00:55:34.360 And and and and this is this is what the kids are learning growing up.

00:55:38.480 Eric, it would be bad enough if this stuff was just being taught to kids in school.

00:55:42.860 But this is actually costing the taxpayers a lot of cash, too, isn't it?

00:55:47.300 That's correct. Over the course of the last several years, this school district has has authorized a payment of more than a million dollars to just community center coast of taxpayer funds.

00:55:59.300 And the latest contract that was just entered in October is for another three hundred thousand dollars for the next school year.

00:56:07.420 And, you know, it's remarkable. And all of this is being brought to the attention of the federal court.

00:56:13.040 So, you know, we've got some some really important claims.

00:56:17.460 It's a strong case. And we just hope we we get the right ruling.

00:56:21.440 Who is that group? Who makes up that group? Who sponsored that group?

00:56:25.260 Who created that group?

00:56:27.260 This just community central coast? Yes.

00:56:29.320 You know, it started, I believe, in St. Louis and it's these these sort of social justice types, very left wing and and basically like a it can't like a cancer.

00:56:45.480 It has spread out to California and they created a base in the Santa Barbara area.

00:56:50.520 And now they're trying to spread this orthodoxy throughout the state of California.

00:56:55.600 It's it's very troubling. And, you know, one thing about one thing you learn about people on the left is they are great at organizing.

00:57:04.820 They're much better at organizing than the conservative folks I know, you know, conservative people I know are much more independent, believe in liberty, believe in in free speech and want the government out of our lives.

00:57:18.200 But these groups on the other side are just the opposite. They want the government to take over everything.

00:57:23.720 And they they're they're just passionately organized to do what they're seeking to do.

00:57:29.720 So, you know, they're putting up a fight. They're using their their, you know, typical tactics have started to try and silence us.

00:57:38.060 But we won't be silenced. And and I you know, and along those lines, we have a few people that started this Fair Education Santa Barbara that are really brave people, because in this day and age, if you make these kind of arguments,

00:57:50.620 I'm sure most of your listeners know the kind of attacks that we become subject to.

00:57:56.040 How can we help?

00:57:56.540 Well, www.faireducation.org is is the Web site that's been set up by Fair Education.

00:58:06.860 And I would ask your listeners to go to faireducation.org and and read about what's going on and donate to the cause.

00:58:16.400 It's a tax deductible donation and support us in any other way that that you can think of.

00:58:21.780 Are you are you confident you're going to win or?

00:58:28.740 Well, our lawsuit is very strong.

00:58:32.660 And, you know, in this day and age in California, you don't know in the court system, you don't know what's going to happen.

00:58:40.260 But if the court follows the law and the facts, we should win this case.

00:58:45.480 Big if, but good luck.

00:58:47.300 Yeah. Good luck, Eric. And stay in touch with us. Let us know what happens.

00:58:50.480 OK, great. Thank you very much.

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